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08:48:41  <NGC3982> hi guys
08:56:50  <nielsm> hello
08:57:17  <nielsm> it seems people are doing other things this weekend, but if you have a question I'm sure you'll get an answer if you just ask :)
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09:01:55  <andythenorth> o/
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09:35:29  <andythenorth> so
09:35:42  <andythenorth> can we numerically sort vehicle groups in the vehicles window?
09:35:47  <andythenorth> rather than lexically
09:36:51  <andythenorth> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/9157/sort.png
09:47:12  <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] blackerking opened issue #6942: adding individual graphs for each vehicle https://git.io/fxK41
09:50:00  <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] andythenorth commented on issue #6942: adding individual graphs for each vehicle https://git.io/fxK4H
09:50:01  <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] andythenorth closed issue #6942: adding individual graphs for each vehicle https://git.io/fxK41
10:07:32  <LordAro> DENIED
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10:18:40  <andythenorth> was I too harsh
10:18:40  <andythenorth> ?
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10:48:35  <frosch123> andythenorth: i think we already sort them numerically
10:48:57  <frosch123> do you compile with icu-sort?
10:49:18  <andythenorth> not intentionally
10:49:29  <andythenorth> I compile with whatever hacked ./configure is working today :P
10:49:38  <frosch123> it works for me
10:49:45  <andythenorth> ok so it's compile issue
10:54:50  <frosch123> you can try https://paste.openttdcoop.org/pd33certm?/pd33certm
10:57:46  * andythenorth testing
11:02:16  <andythenorth> same sort result as in previous screenshot :)
11:02:58  <frosch123> so, there is a reason ICU is used :)
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11:59:23  <andythenorth> "checking icu-lx... not found"
11:59:33  <andythenorth> "checking icu-i18n... not found"
12:02:53  <LordAro> andythenorth: last time i checked the only changes to configure you should need are in #6917
12:03:11  <LordAro> unless it broke again with the new osx, i can't remember
12:04:25  <andythenorth> let's see
12:04:30  <andythenorth> the issue was https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/6880
12:04:51  <andythenorth> ok so macosx-clang-iconv-fix branch doesn't compile
12:05:10  <andythenorth> https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/6880#issuecomment-424509709
12:11:57  <LordAro> ah yeah, it thinks you're on clang1.0 again
12:12:05  * LordAro shakes fist at apple
12:12:09  <LordAro> (continues to)
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12:21:44  <andythenorth> :P
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12:28:36  <Wolf01> o/
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15:01:16  <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Hemaolle commented on pull request #6906: Fix #6742: Only possible to build station next to competitor by using CTRL+click https://git.io/fxKw8
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15:03:19  <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Hemaolle commented on pull request #6906: Fix #6742: Only possible to build station next to competitor by using CTRL+click https://git.io/fxKwE
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15:34:03  <LordAro> ono, person is asking for my review
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16:06:32  <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro commented on pull request #6917: Fix iconv and clang version detection on OSX https://git.io/fxKKk
16:09:55  <nielsm> how come configure even wants to know the compiler version?
16:10:47  <nielsm> wouldn't it be better to change it so it doesn't have to care?
16:11:18  <LordAro> there are various warning flags that are applied
16:11:26  <LordAro> notably, -std=c++11
16:11:31  <LordAro> which currently is sort of required
16:11:34  <LordAro> by accident
16:13:02  <nielsm> I'd think those should be tested for by feature tests
16:13:20  <LordAro> yeah, that's what'll happen when/if cmake does
16:13:32  <Eddi|zuHause> if you want configure to take half an hour
16:18:24  <nielsm> not possible to do a wholesale test for all flags at once, and if that fails either fail completely, or do the slow individual flags test?
16:18:55  <LordAro> i wouldn't expect them to be very slow
16:19:09  <LordAro> they're usually 1 or 2 line programs
16:19:33  <nielsm> yes it's bounded by the startup time of the compiler
16:20:02  <nielsm> dominated, not bounded
16:24:21  <Eddi|zuHause> well, if you can accrete all tests into one modular program you could bisect the modules to find out which ones fail?
16:24:36  <LordAro> now that would be slow :p
16:24:56  <Eddi|zuHause> depends on how often you expect a failure
16:25:06  <LordAro> true
16:27:39  <Eddi|zuHause> i still think the version number is an easy test, and the other method should only be used for "weird" compilers
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18:11:15  <andythenorth> mmm sprites
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19:01:53  <Wolf01> Mmmh, I wonder if I'm ill
19:02:52  <Eddi|zuHause> ask a doctor?
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19:06:04  <Wolf01> Is there any doctor here?
19:06:28  <andythenorth> my wife?
19:07:18  <Wolf01> Good, I may have a bad case of "seasonal change"
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19:08:56  <andythenorth> vitamin D
19:09:00  <andythenorth> loads of it
19:09:04  * andythenorth is not a doctor :P
19:10:06  <Wolf01> Heh, I'll need the entire alphabet
19:11:08  <Wolf01> For sure some Mg... time for a ginger ale
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