Log for #openttd on 1st December 2018:
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07:23:49  <andythenorth> moin
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07:57:58  <andythenorth> hmm
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08:09:40  <triolus> hi
08:52:50  <planetmaker> moin
08:54:28  <TrueBrain> hi
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09:05:37  <andythenorth> oof it's TrueBrain
09:05:41  <andythenorth> leave quickly
09:19:22  <TrueBrain> well, that is not nice :'(
09:19:56  <Eddi|zuHause> i was considering a "/part quick enough?"
09:20:04  <TrueBrain> I did too :D
09:20:08  <TrueBrain> but was too much effort :P
09:20:12  <Eddi|zuHause> but then i remembered i was lazy :p
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09:33:52  <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh commented on pull request #6980: GDI engine for font glyph rendering as a replacement for FreeType
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09:35:36  <Wolf01> o/
09:39:31  <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh approved pull request #6979: Fix: [Win32] Align sprite glyphs to the font baseline when using Uniscribe text layout
09:50:04  <andythenorth> moin Wolf01
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09:51:32  <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh dismissed a review for pull request #6973: Add: Unique ID to savegames to prevent accidental overwriting
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10:24:18  <TrueBrain> hmmm .. LordAro kept saying he wanted to give feedback on my hackmd document .. did I miss it, or did he only say he wanted to? :D
10:24:37  <LordAro> technically i do still have the tab open
10:41:09  <TrueBrain> lol
10:45:20  <eirc> hey guys about that kiwi christmas event, will it be streamed or something? I'd love to watch some competitive openttd :D
10:57:18  <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc merged pull request #6979: Fix: [Win32] Align sprite glyphs to the font baseline when using Uniscribe text layout
10:59:24  <michi_cc> nielsm: Thanks.
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11:42:33  <TrueBrain> andythenorth: I deployed the latest version to staging; it is still a bit of a manual process, but I am getting there :)
11:43:12  <TrueBrain> wow, it is stupidly fast :P
11:43:25  <TrueBrain> it is looking really good, damn
11:43:26  <TrueBrain> nice work andythenorth :)
11:44:21  <TrueBrain> owh, right, we have to fix emails not being plain text I guess .. or do we believe enough in the spamfilter .. hmm
11:46:14  <TrueBrain> andythenorth: found a bug: the logo always points to the current page. It should point to the main page :)
11:46:58  <TrueBrain> andythenorth: another bug, the sorting order of news is wrong :)
11:59:50  <andythenorth> TrueBrain: file some tickets :P
12:00:07  <andythenorth>  the project manager can prioritise and allocate my time :P
12:01:21  <andythenorth> or I'll look when I've done the washing up :P
12:15:01  <andythenorth> oh the header logo is weird
12:15:10  <andythenorth> can click on the 'OpenTTD' text, but not the icon
12:15:15  <andythenorth> different images
12:15:54  <andythenorth> TrueBrain: pushed
12:24:07  <planetmaker> eirc, I don't know. In principle OpenTTD allows to join games as spectator - so a streaming of the game itself technically is not necessary as you could simply join - if they make the servers publicly accessible
12:24:45  <planetmaker> it is a question you have to ask the kiwi guys, though (I did ask it them as well - but have no answer so far)
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12:39:42  <TrueBrain> andythenorth: well, that is quick :D
12:40:00  <andythenorth> this stuff is trivial
12:40:04  <andythenorth> static sites ftw
12:40:20  <TrueBrain> its funny how quick it becomes because of that
12:44:05  <LordAro> TrueBrain: is "staging" anywhere public?
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12:44:10  <eirc> nice planetmaker thanks for the input, I contacted them through the participation form I'll let ya know if get any feedback
12:44:44  <TrueBrain> LordAro: define "public", but it has an https address yes :P
12:46:39  <LordAro> TrueBrain: what is the url?
12:47:08  <Eddi|zuHause> imho "it has an https address" is not "public"
12:47:22  <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: that was exactly why I asked
12:47:25  <TrueBrain> as it is not really public
12:47:27  <TrueBrain> it is just available
12:47:34  <TrueBrain> it is not meant for publication
12:47:39  <TrueBrain> just to be accessable :P
12:47:52  <TrueBrain> LordAro:
12:47:59  <TrueBrain> just a temporary address etc etc
12:48:47  <LordAro> :)
12:48:49  <Eddi|zuHause> news is definitely backwards
12:49:40  <Eddi|zuHause> is "CABBAGE" some sort of inside joke?
12:51:06  <LordAro> andythenorth: turns out i didn't delete the updated ottd website template i made months ago
12:53:36  <andythenorth> you going to apply it to the new repo? o_O
12:53:48  <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: CABBAGE is what one puts in templates to indicate unfinished work
12:54:01  <andythenorth> or sometimes, find where something is being injected :P
12:54:13  <Eddi|zuHause> i figured as much. wasn't the question i asked :p
12:54:25  <andythenorth> it's not a joke
12:54:30  <andythenorth> afaik
12:54:42  <andythenorth> unlike foobar
12:55:17  <andythenorth> new site is new is old
12:55:21  <LordAro> andythenorth: technically i could...
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12:56:55  <TrueBrain> LordAro: after the initial port, you can make a PR for these things :)
12:57:01  <TrueBrain> but first we are going to move stuff one-on-one
12:57:34  <LordAro> i figured you might say that :p
12:57:42  <LordAro> i'll try not to delete it in the meantime then :p
12:57:50  <TrueBrain> you can already prepare the PR :)
12:59:18  <TrueBrain> andythenorth: added LICENSE and a start on a README :)
13:02:00  <andythenorth> yay
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13:11:25  <TrueBrain> 235 news entries
13:13:07  <TrueBrain> lol .. we have a wrongly date news item it seems :D
13:13:35  <TrueBrain> hmm, no, Jekyll is acting weird
13:13:39  <TrueBrain> no title, no author, no date
13:14:29  <TrueBrain> haha, a : in the title :)
13:14:51  <TrueBrain> andythenorth: a bug; the frontpage shows ALL news items :P
13:15:09  <TrueBrain> archive too
13:15:11  <TrueBrain> no pagination :D
13:15:41  <TrueBrain> andythenorth: another bug: <!-- --> stuff is generated in the HTML, wasting space
13:15:46  <TrueBrain> seems like a silly thing to do :)
13:16:26  <TrueBrain> guess we should change those into template comments?
13:17:09  <andythenorth> yes
13:17:17  <andythenorth> Liquid might have a 'drop comment' syntax
13:17:20  <andythenorth> I can look later
13:17:21  <TrueBrain> hmm .. not all author names are showing up
13:17:22  <TrueBrain> just some
13:17:53  <TrueBrain> andythenorth: media/images/dot.png not found errors btw :)
13:18:43  <TrueBrain> an author name starting with a 't', any, doesnt work ..
13:19:07  <TrueBrain> hmm
13:19:11  <TrueBrain> this is really weird
13:19:20  <TrueBrain> sometimes adding a letter can make the author disapear
13:20:10  <TrueBrain> really weird :)
13:21:05  <Eddi|zuHause> maybe the website has synesthesia, and letters can change the colour of a word? :p
13:21:46  <TrueBrain> ah, andythenorth is doing something funky with site.people
13:21:47  <TrueBrain> not sure why :D
13:22:41  <andythenorth> it was your idea TrueBrain :(
13:22:45  <andythenorth> le sigh
13:22:52  <TrueBrain> it was? I AM BRILIANT :P
13:22:54  <TrueBrain> I have no clue
13:23:01  <TrueBrain> I also dont understand the piece of code tehre :D
13:23:06  <TrueBrain> "remove_first" .. what does that do?
13:23:32  <TrueBrain> ah, Kamnet is in the _people, that is why his name works
13:23:34  <TrueBrain> gotcha
13:23:50  <TrueBrain> andythenorth: you put me in without a nick :D EVIL!
13:24:08  <andythenorth> I haven't looked, but I think there was something there where I couldn't figure how to parse urls
13:24:17  <andythenorth> am I just doing a stupid split to drop something from path?
13:24:42  <TrueBrain> mainly, if the author is not in people, it doesnt show anything
13:25:08  <andythenorth> yes
13:25:20  <andythenorth> it will be a null key
13:25:23  <TrueBrain> do you really want to put everyone in the people list?
13:25:26  <andythenorth> dunno
13:25:34  <TrueBrain> as we have some old old names there :D
13:25:36  <andythenorth> it seemed weird to have 'people' for contacts
13:25:42  <andythenorth> and then not use 'people' for posts
13:25:54  * andythenorth wonders about a README
13:25:58  <TrueBrain> hmm
13:26:03  <TrueBrain> let me try to fiddle a bit with this
13:26:28  <andythenorth> making an entity for 'people' was an exercise in learning Jekyll
13:26:48  <TrueBrain> and leaving my Nick empty was just spite :P
13:26:50  <andythenorth> it could just be dropped, and names written out in the content
13:26:51  <TrueBrain> I understand :)
13:26:58  <andythenorth> I don't think it's winning us much
13:27:06  <TrueBrain> I like your idea to allow to link to people who we know
13:27:13  <TrueBrain> but itmight be overdoing it
13:27:16  <TrueBrain> meh .. first port
13:27:17  <TrueBrain> improve later
13:27:21  <andythenorth> I think it's overkill
13:27:21  <TrueBrain> so yeah, going to remove it for now :)
13:27:42  <andythenorth> you can replace 'contact' with a paste of the generated output
13:27:59  <TrueBrain> huh?
13:28:03  <TrueBrain> 'people' stuff is nice for contact
13:28:06  <TrueBrain> makes it easier to manage
13:28:14  <TrueBrain> just the hook into the post seems overkill
13:28:20  <TrueBrain> {{ }} should be enough?
13:29:17  <andythenorth> +1
13:29:34  <andythenorth> simpler is better
13:29:42  <andythenorth> also I don't like that loop
13:33:16  <TrueBrain> andythenorth: please always end all files with one (and exactly one) \n :)
13:33:20  <TrueBrain> you had .. variantions in that :P
13:34:13  <andythenorth> I switched editor recently
13:34:21  <andythenorth> I've just found the setting in the new one
13:34:40  <TrueBrain> good :D
13:34:42  <andythenorth> now I will get complained at again at work
13:34:51  <andythenorth> and I found 'strip whitespace'
13:35:03  <andythenorth> people love my diffs
13:40:11  <TrueBrain> andythenorth: I pushed stuff
13:40:18  <TrueBrain> can you look at pagination if youhave the time? :)
13:41:15  <andythenorth> I can later today
13:41:18  <andythenorth> it won't be now
13:41:21  <andythenorth> :(
13:41:22  <TrueBrain> no real rush :)
13:41:29  <andythenorth> be nice to be 'done'
13:41:31  <TrueBrain> but now you have 235 news items to toy with :P
13:43:35  <TrueBrain> guess we should automate the thumb creation some day
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13:45:16  <andythenorth> I wondered
13:45:38  <andythenorth> so Ludde works at Spotify
13:45:47  * andythenorth followed a news article
13:46:02  <TrueBrain> what part about that makes you wonder? :)
13:46:11  <andythenorth> TrueBrain: would that mean ImageMagick or something on the server?
13:46:21  <TrueBrain> andythenorth: in the build-step, yes
13:46:49  <Eddi|zuHause> uhm, Ludde was the founder of spotify, right?
13:46:52  <andythenorth> overcomplicate everything with a proprietary media server and a CDN
13:47:04  <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: that is a first I hear that suggestion
13:47:47  <Eddi|zuHause> at least he was involved very early on
13:47:56  <andythenorth> he's not listed as a founder
13:48:03  <andythenorth> he might have been a very early engineer?
13:48:38  <TrueBrain> we are now speculating ;) Might not be the best thing in the world to continue this road :)
13:48:49  <TrueBrain> (before you know it, someone updates his wiki and now is a fact :P)
13:49:02  <andythenorth> if wikipedia doesn't know, humanity doesn't know
13:49:06  <andythenorth> so often wrong :P
13:49:41  <Eddi|zuHause> that's how the world works, right? everyone thinks they know something, and suddenly you're being accused of "fake news" when you try to correct it
13:50:06  <andythenorth> so has Eddi|zuHause implemented the pagination yet?
13:50:15  <andythenorth> most of it is probably deciding the rules
13:50:25  <Eddi|zuHause> the what?
13:50:45  <andythenorth> seems we paginate in blocks of 5?
13:50:48  <Eddi|zuHause> cross between paganism and imagination?
13:51:04  <andythenorth> the correct value is always 50 :P
13:51:09  <andythenorth> dunno why people much around with 5 or 10
13:51:18  <andythenorth> or they get it even worse, and go to endless scroll
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13:52:23  <Eddi|zuHause> good luck doing endless scroll on a static page :p
13:52:41  <andythenorth> probably fine
13:53:03  <andythenorth> just load more content
13:53:35  <andythenorth> xhr to a static page
13:53:58  <TrueBrain> andythenorth: I see what you mean with folders; that is pretty nasty to keep correct :D
13:54:05  <TrueBrain> I was putting screenshots in folders .. it did not like that :D
13:54:14  <andythenorth> it does not like
13:54:20  <andythenorth> 'flat is better than nested'
13:54:28  <TrueBrain> yeah ... flat is unreadable
13:54:30  <TrueBrain> so fuck that :P
13:54:42  <TrueBrain> guess I can prefix all files with the version
13:54:55  <andythenorth> how many screenshots are there?
13:55:05  <TrueBrain> 91
13:55:31  <andythenorth> pff
13:55:34  <andythenorth> that's nothing
13:55:34  <andythenorth>
13:55:46  <TrueBrain> yeah, I am going to just prefix them all with the version
13:56:01  <andythenorth> exactly
13:56:03  <TrueBrain> I do wonder what we should do with the special screenshots
13:56:10  <TrueBrain> sorting will put them in weird places, I guess
13:56:14  <andythenorth> delete them?
13:56:35  <andythenorth> oh TrueBrain you know the prefix is irrelevant?
13:56:37  <TrueBrain> deleting the r10000 cake?! :o :o :o
13:56:51  <andythenorth> the sorting is dictated by the FrontMatter entry in the md file
13:57:02  <Eddi|zuHause> make up a fictional inbetween version number?
13:57:17  <andythenorth> we could also just do it on the filename
13:57:35  <TrueBrain> how does it know that posts filename start with a date?
13:57:48  <andythenorth> posts are a magic type of collection
13:58:02  <andythenorth> built in magix
13:58:06  <TrueBrain> too bad
13:58:12  <TrueBrain> would be nice to not repeat 'group' in md files
13:58:33  <andythenorth> we can sort on arbitrary keys in Liquid filters
13:58:37  <andythenorth> 99% certain
13:58:47  <TrueBrain> it is not the sorting
13:58:50  <TrueBrain> the information ! :D
13:59:04  <TrueBrain> now for every screenshot the name will be like: 0.4.7-blabla.png
13:59:07  <andythenorth> I mean: we can split the filename, and use that to compose groups
13:59:13  <TrueBrain> and a, with : group: 0.4.7
13:59:15  <TrueBrain> that is silly :)
13:59:18  <TrueBrain> ah, good
13:59:21  <TrueBrain> let me fiddle with that :)
13:59:31  <andythenorth> doing it reliably needs someone who is more interested in splits or regexp than me
13:59:48  <andythenorth> I have officially never written a regexp in 35 years of coding
13:59:51  <andythenorth> and I'm not starting now
14:00:05  <TrueBrain> if you have a problem you try to solve with regex ... you just have two problems
14:00:42  <andythenorth> the liquid filters are pretty good
14:00:56  <andythenorth> and Jekyll extends it with some that are custom to Jekyll
14:01:27  <LordAro> ... ([^-]+)-(.*) ?
14:02:42  <andythenorth> will the whole world get re-written in YAML?
14:02:45  * andythenorth wonders
14:03:10  <andythenorth> also we should convert NML to YAML
14:04:39  * andythenorth afk
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14:12:33  <Eddi|zuHause> regex is like alcohol, if it's not solving your problem, you're not using enough of it yet
14:22:32  <Xaroth> What's wrong with XML?!
14:22:39  <TrueBrain> go back to your corner!
14:22:55  <Xaroth> :(
14:23:06  <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc commented on pull request #6980: GDI engine for font glyph rendering as a replacement for FreeType
14:23:28  <Xaroth> I wonder if we can make the savegames in yaml
14:24:38  <Eddi|zuHause> we haven't done XML savegames in the laast 15 years, why would we start with yaml savegames now?
14:25:24  <Xaroth> Because it's the new thing
14:27:38  <TrueBrain> I wish it was a bannishable offense to talk stupid :P
14:29:55  <Eddi|zuHause> you have +b power, use it?
14:30:31  <Eddi|zuHause> (although i fear you'd quickly have to use it on yourself :p)
14:30:51  <TrueBrain> yeah, that is my main issue tbfh :P
14:30:56  <TrueBrain> that made me wonder if the world is fair
14:31:17  <TrueBrain> hmm .. 'alt' text is not showing
14:31:24  <LordAro> Eddi|zuHause: KSP uses xml savegames, iirc
14:31:47  <Eddi|zuHause> i'm pretty sure that's incorrect
14:35:47  <LordAro> oh no, it's jsonish
14:52:04  <TrueBrain> adding 42 MiB of PNGs to git
14:52:08  <TrueBrain> is this a good idea, I wonder
15:11:31  <andythenorth> people complain it makes deployments slow
15:11:41  <andythenorth> [shrug]
15:15:37  <frosch123> spreadsheets use xml savegames
15:16:55  <TrueBrain> okay, pushing 50 MiB :D
15:17:03  <TrueBrain> we should use LFS for this, but meh
15:17:07  <Eddi|zuHause> <TrueBrain> is this a good idea, I wonder <-- what else would you do with them?
15:17:24  <andythenorth> there's a github service for binaries
15:17:24  <TrueBrain> storing binaries in git is not really .. smart :)
15:17:28  <andythenorth> or was that bitbucket?
15:17:36  <TrueBrain> either way, it is done :P
15:17:43  <TrueBrain> andythenorth: added a tons of {{ base }} to URLs
15:17:51  <TrueBrain> which seems a bit nicer than the remove_first statements :)
15:18:04  <TrueBrain> "works for me"
15:18:05  <Eddi|zuHause> TrueBrain: sometimes ideas are bad, but every other idea is even worse
15:18:11  <TrueBrain> but you might want to check if it works for you andythenorth :)
15:18:29  <TrueBrain> right, lets see if I can understand pagination :)
15:18:47  <Eddi|zuHause> maybe ask paganini?
15:19:20  <Eddi|zuHause> (wonder if i can come up with more puns using pag*)
15:20:07  <Eddi|zuHause> (was trying to do one with panini, but it didn't work out)
15:21:16  <TrueBrain> so for pagination you need jekyll-pagination, it yells, but that repo is no longer under active development
15:21:18  <TrueBrain> this feels weird :P
15:24:18  <andythenorth> 39 bad links
15:24:20  <andythenorth> not too bad
15:24:43  <andythenorth> I'll dig through those in a bit
15:29:06  <andythenorth> what is ?
15:29:13  <TrueBrain> wow, that is OLD
15:29:19  <andythenorth> old posts innit :)
15:29:20  <TrueBrain> we also used to host OpenTTD on torrent
15:29:22  <TrueBrain> haha
15:29:24  <TrueBrain> yeah ..
15:29:30  <andythenorth> link integrity checker's going to find the link rot
15:29:31  <TrueBrain> I noticed a few issues with old posts
15:29:38  <TrueBrain> not sure if we want to fix that :P
15:29:52  <andythenorth> I might, just so I can get a clean 404 check
15:30:03  <TrueBrain> go for it
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15:30:18  <TrueBrain> pagination works, now to make it pretty
15:30:23  <andythenorth> yay
15:30:24  <andythenorth> ?
15:30:30  <TrueBrain> lol
15:30:39  <andythenorth> instead?
15:30:43  <TrueBrain> sure
15:30:48  <TrueBrain> please, just use common sense ;)
15:31:01  <andythenorth> assumes I have any spare :P
15:45:29  <TrueBrain> hmm .. I think I murdered Chrome
15:45:47  <TrueBrain> it still thinks the server is alive .. while I killed it :D (locally)
15:47:50  <andythenorth> oof
15:47:55  <Eddi|zuHause> tried ?
15:49:27  <Eddi|zuHause> also: '"We found a proliferation of press releases, white papers, and persuasively written articles [about blockchain]," Burg et al wrote on Thursday. "However, we found no documentation or evidence of the results blockchain was purported to have achieved in these claims. We also did not find lessons learned or practical insights, as are available for other technologies in development."'
15:54:34  <TrueBrain> andythenorth: more fixes :)
15:54:45  <TrueBrain> pagination, and I changed the URLs of news to start with /news
15:54:50  <TrueBrain> easier to migrate :)
15:55:37  <andythenorth> ok
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15:57:38  <andythenorth> 2005: new servers!
15:58:03  <TrueBrain> pushed latest version to staging
15:58:17  <TrueBrain> incredible how fast things are, if they are not dynamic :P
15:59:11  <andythenorth> and how easy to work on
15:59:25  <andythenorth> I wonder why we pissed around for so many years with database driven systems
15:59:35  <TrueBrain> because DYNAMIC IS GOOD :P
15:59:53  <TrueBrain> hmm
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16:01:35  <andythenorth> BUT
16:01:45  <TrueBrain> so, the things we have to fix: language status, downloads, and serverlisting
16:01:48  <andythenorth> and stuff
16:01:56  <TrueBrain> language status .. we might just drop it tbh
16:02:01  <TrueBrain> downloads .. I have some ideas
16:02:05  <TrueBrain> server-listing is a sysop thingy to fix
16:03:13  <andythenorth> all 404s gone
16:03:23  <andythenorth> was a bit brutal, but JFDI eh
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16:04:05  <andythenorth> when LordAro finishes porting the skin to proper css, we can delete most of the media
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16:09:16  <TrueBrain> we changed history, bah :P
16:09:24  <TrueBrain> news should be immutable! :P
16:09:29  <TrueBrain> but SourceForge links are weird :P
16:10:03  <TrueBrain> I tried to change URLs to https ... not all sites accept https ..
16:10:06  <TrueBrain> which is WEIRD
16:10:32  <TrueBrain> I like the [dead link] thing andythenorth, nice
16:10:58  <TrueBrain> you added a \r
16:11:00  <TrueBrain> wtf! :P
16:11:36  <TrueBrain> but yeah .. I guess we should  now lock the repo and start using PRs :)
16:11:45  <TrueBrain> think it is mature enough to do that, you agree andythenorth?
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16:21:16  <TrueBrain> CI fails, w00p :D
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16:22:13  <TrueBrain> but locally it works
16:22:15  <TrueBrain> dammit :D
16:22:40  <TrueBrain> docker should be deterministic!
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16:27:02  <andythenorth> a what now?
16:27:12  <andythenorth> my new editor is on the wrong linebreak?
16:27:26  <andythenorth> some of the post files might have broken encodings btw
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16:27:30  <andythenorth> much ??? chars
16:27:46  <TrueBrain> fix it :P
16:27:49  <TrueBrain> possibly it is latin-8
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16:27:54  <TrueBrain> latin-8?
16:27:59  <TrueBrain> you get what I mean
16:29:26  <TrueBrain> I did not check how the UTF-8 went via MySQL .. most likely horrible :D
16:33:11  <TrueBrain> and I am sure we will find more things wrong with the news :P
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16:35:20  <TrueBrain> whyyyyyyy does travis fail on something that works locally
16:35:21  <TrueBrain> weird
16:36:38  <andythenorth> oof
16:36:45  <andythenorth> I just invented cache invalidation in the shower
16:36:50  <andythenorth> not sure the world needed that
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16:41:16  <TrueBrain> it makesno sense why it works locally, but not on travis .. its a 'docker build' ffs
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16:42:28  <andythenorth> 2438 instances of slash-x{0D}
16:42:35  <andythenorth> which my editor fails to recognise
16:43:09  <andythenorth> replace with \r ?
16:44:15  <andythenorth> :P
16:44:21  * andythenorth BBL
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16:47:09  <TrueBrain> hmm, indeed, lots of \r :)
16:47:13  <TrueBrain> created a PR for that
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16:57:02  <Eddi|zuHause> <andythenorth> DB MIGRATIONS THAT ARE NOT IDEMPOTENT <-- "idempotent" means "if you do it twice on top of each other, you don't change the result again", is that really what you meant?
16:57:33  <Eddi|zuHause> in maths speak: a^2=a
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17:11:13  <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/DorpsGek-github] pyup-bot opened pull request #20: Scheduled monthly dependency update for December
17:11:16  <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/DorpsGek-github] pyup-bot commented on pull request #19: Scheduled monthly dependency update for November
17:11:17  <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/DorpsGek-github] pyup-bot closed pull request #19: Scheduled monthly dependency update for November
17:11:33  <Eddi|zuHause> <-- i think i'm going insane. not sure if before or after watching that video
17:12:11  <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/DorpsGek-irc] pyup-bot opened pull request #16: Scheduled monthly dependency update for December
17:12:14  <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/DorpsGek-irc] pyup-bot commented on pull request #15: Scheduled monthly dependency update for November
17:12:15  <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/DorpsGek-irc] pyup-bot closed pull request #15: Scheduled monthly dependency update for November
17:13:11  <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/DorpsGek-runner] pyup-bot opened pull request #11: Scheduled monthly dependency update for December
17:13:14  <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/DorpsGek-runner] pyup-bot commented on pull request #10: Scheduled monthly dependency update for November
17:13:15  <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/DorpsGek-runner] pyup-bot closed pull request #10: Scheduled monthly dependency update for November
17:47:01  <TrueBrain> spam spam spam
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18:06:30  <Eddi|zuHause> but... what about eggs?
18:06:45  <Wolf01> Scrambled?
18:06:59  <Eddi|zuHause> spambled?
18:07:39  <Wolf01> Mmmh, dying connection o'clock
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18:08:46  <Eddi|zuHause> peak usage in your neighbourhood?
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18:10:39  <Wolf01> Probably, this hour and on weekend mornings
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18:36:47  <TrueBrain> andythenorth: I fixed \r\n issues
18:36:54  <TrueBrain> they are now alllll \n :)
18:36:56  <TrueBrain> I think ..
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18:41:12  <andythenorth> super
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18:45:19  <TrueBrain> andythenorth: how did you check for dead links btw?
18:45:22  <TrueBrain> might be good to add that as CI
18:46:10  <andythenorth> I used a mac tool called integrity
18:46:17  <andythenorth> but there are others
18:46:29  <andythenorth> at work we pay for a license of Total Validator and run it on all html pages
18:46:52  <andythenorth> seems we could do something like
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18:48:04  <TrueBrain> last release: 2014
18:48:05  <TrueBrain> lol
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18:55:09  <andythenorth> TrueBrain: what to do about translations count?
18:55:32  <TrueBrain> I do not think it helps, on the website
18:55:40  <TrueBrain> when we first added it, it gave a lot of new translators
18:55:45  <TrueBrain> but .. I do not think it does these days
18:55:56  <TrueBrain> so I was thinking about simply removing it for now
18:55:56  <andythenorth> there is some other issue with getting an account on WT :P
18:56:00  <andythenorth> I would remove it
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18:56:14  <TrueBrain> we use eints these days, and are there issues?
18:56:18  <TrueBrain> I am not aware of any
18:56:45  <andythenorth> there was some nonsense about who is the translation manager
18:56:52  <andythenorth> maybe someone was trolling dunno
18:57:02  <TrueBrain> yeah; that was nonsense
18:57:09  <TrueBrain> people "demanding" to know who is being "translation manager"
18:57:14  <andythenorth> I didn't keep up with it
18:57:15  <TrueBrain> that is totally irrelvant
18:57:19  <TrueBrain> like asking who is behind info@
18:57:21  <Xaroth> sounds like an epeen contest
18:57:32  <TrueBrain> but grumpy people can make a lot of noise
18:57:39  <Eddi|zuHause> i think the person with the banhammer won that :p
18:57:55  <TrueBrain> "they requested an account DAYS ago, WHAT IS THIS NONSENSE?! You do this all for free, AND YOU GIVE NO SERVICE" or something similar
18:58:05  <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: you are absolutely correct :)
18:58:39  <andythenorth> so in my game
18:58:40  <TrueBrain> andythenorth: 'html-proofer', a ruby tool, that is maintained, seems to do the trick of checking
18:58:56  <andythenorth> nvm my game
18:59:07  <andythenorth> TrueBrain: or just write a recursive curl with logging
18:59:09  <andythenorth> 'nope'
18:59:11  <Eddi|zuHause> a few months ago another guy wanted to know about the translations manager, and i told him "you don't want to know what happened to the last finnish guy who asked about the translations manager"
18:59:34  <TrueBrain> the main issue is, it is never a question of "who is this person"
18:59:39  <TrueBrain> you have a question, ask the question
18:59:46  <TrueBrain> the witchhunting is just useless crap
19:00:06  <TrueBrain> lol ... if you curl, you end up in an endless loop :D
19:01:17  <TrueBrain> guess not having a cookie means you get a redirect :D
19:01:26  <TrueBrain> bad CDN, bad!
19:04:02  <andythenorth> I want a river building tool :(
19:04:08  <andythenorth> for when I bulldozer river by mistake
19:04:25  <Eddi|zuHause> i hate pages where you need cookies like that
19:04:50  <Eddi|zuHause> out of the top: twitter or new york times
19:07:43  <TrueBrain> 173 external links .. that is a lot :P
19:12:45  <Xaroth> andythenorth: ask peter1138, he might have a patch for that.
19:15:09  <Eddi|zuHause> i'm pretty sure that's a one-line change
19:15:25  <Eddi|zuHause> just remove the check for "you're in editor"
19:15:32  <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: maybe you could add your second commit? o_O
19:15:39  <Eddi|zuHause> well, ok, maybe 3 lines
19:15:57  <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: not sure i agree with the feature itself
19:16:10  <andythenorth> me neither
19:16:17  <andythenorth> but rivers get over-thought
19:16:42  <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: i'd rather have rivers self-repairing (like a mini-flood) if no alternate route (via canals) is provided
19:16:50  <andythenorth> so would I
19:16:58  <andythenorth> but that's a really lot more work
19:17:02  <Eddi|zuHause> and that is more than one line :p
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19:36:04  <nielsm> 11:43:12  <TrueBrain> wow, it is stupidly fast :P   <-- let's spearhead the "responsible web design" movement, making sites that are just fast, without wasting time downloading and executing several megabytes of javascript
19:40:37  <andythenorth> save coal
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19:40:40  <andythenorth> spend it on images :P
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21:10:53  <andythenorth> such and very
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22:23:43  <peter1138> Hmm, I see Yogscast are playing OpenTTD on their winter stream.
22:30:05  <Eddi|zuHause> i don't think i ever saw more than 5 minutes of yogscast
22:34:19  <LordAro> oh, again?
23:00:08  <Eddi|zuHause> it was mentioned a few times in this channel
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23:05:38  <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] J0anJosep opened pull request #6985: Fix (#6974): Add filter widget to api (and a double dot from somewhere)
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