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00:18:03 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 00:19:32 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 00:20:49 *** tokai|noir has joined #openttd 00:20:49 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai|noir 00:27:37 *** tokai has quit IRC 00:33:18 *** Samu has quit IRC 01:19:42 *** namad7 has joined #openttd 01:23:37 *** namad7 has quit IRC 01:34:08 *** quiznilo has joined #openttd 01:34:20 *** quiznilo has left #openttd 01:38:32 *** FLHerne_ has quit IRC 01:47:33 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 01:48:35 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 01:59:52 *** snail_UES_ is now known as Guest5097 01:59:52 *** snail_UES_ has joined #openttd 02:22:25 *** debdog has joined #openttd 02:25:43 *** D-HUND has quit IRC 02:51:27 *** glx has quit IRC 03:57:32 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 04:30:57 *** snail_UES_ has quit IRC 04:42:43 <Eddi|zuHause> how do you like them tickets now? 05:41:26 *** nielsm has joined #openttd 07:13:46 *** y2kboy23_ has joined #openttd 07:19:22 *** y2kboy23 has quit IRC 07:29:12 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 07:43:45 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 08:21:52 <peter1138> It's lunch time? 08:38:58 <andythenorth> might be 08:45:27 <andythenorth> road vehicles maintain a distance from vehicle in front 08:45:33 <andythenorth> does it happen to be 4/8? 08:47:54 <nielsm> they do? 08:48:16 <nielsm> I regularly get road vehicles running straight end to end 08:48:48 <nielsm> (that can happen when they load at a drive-through stop and finish loading at the same time) 08:49:15 <andythenorth> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/9463/RV_distance.png 08:49:37 <andythenorth> it's not an important thing, just trying to understand RV lengths and routing 08:49:55 <andythenorth> in current tests, there are no particular lengths that block stations less than others 08:50:00 <nielsm> hmm are they waiting in that screenshot? 08:50:03 <andythenorth> yes 08:50:09 <nielsm> because that looks "wrong" 08:50:12 <andythenorth> but they do the same if they're not in stops 08:50:47 <andythenorth> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/9464/RV_distance_2.png 08:51:01 <andythenorth> related: RVs aren't particularly good at finding empty road stop bays 08:51:19 <andythenorth> more often than not, they'll go for one that's occupied, then block 08:52:31 <nielsm> https://0x0.st/z1ZS.png 08:52:50 <nielsm> default vehicles can be directly end to end 08:53:29 <nielsm> yeah that behaviour with picking an empty loading bay is an unfortunate side effect of the path caching 08:55:13 <andythenorth> how interesting https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/9465/RV_distance_oof.png 08:55:27 <andythenorth> trams are 16/8 and don't have gaps 08:55:47 <andythenorth> the feldbhan trains are 19/8 and have gaps 08:56:14 <nielsm> I wonder if it rounds length up to a full halftile 08:56:31 <andythenorth> code will know :) 08:56:42 <andythenorth> I have to go to work, might look more in a bit 08:56:56 <andythenorth> trying to find lengths that are optimum for gameplay, if they exist 08:57:01 <andythenorth> otherwise I just pick ones that look nice 09:02:07 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 09:05:36 *** FLHerne_ has joined #openttd 09:26:16 *** Smedles has quit IRC 09:29:15 *** Smedles has joined #openttd 09:34:46 *** snail_UES_ has joined #openttd 09:51:13 *** snail_UES_ has quit IRC 09:53:13 *** FLHerne_ has quit IRC 09:53:29 *** FLHerne_ has joined #openttd 09:56:14 *** FLHerne_ has quit IRC 09:56:29 *** FLHerne_ has joined #openttd 10:02:35 *** FLHerne_ has quit IRC 10:02:50 *** FLHerne_ has joined #openttd 10:05:24 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 10:18:44 *** FLHerne_ has quit IRC 10:19:00 *** FLHerne_ has joined #openttd 10:20:02 *** Compu has joined #openttd 10:30:06 *** snail_UES_ has joined #openttd 10:31:19 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 10:32:24 *** FLHerne_ has quit IRC 10:32:40 *** FLHerne_ has joined #openttd 10:46:37 *** snail_UES_ has quit IRC 10:48:04 *** FLHerne_ has quit IRC 10:48:21 *** FLHerne_ has joined #openttd 10:56:18 *** nielsm has quit IRC 10:58:23 <peter1138> Maybe lunch time. 10:59:59 <nakki> mmh 11:00:01 <nakki> it was three hours ago 11:00:36 <nakki> got some chow from a student union -owned chain 11:00:42 <nakki> cheap as fuck for students and delicious 11:00:50 <nakki> i'm gonna miss these discounts if i eventually graduate 11:03:05 *** Samu has joined #openttd 11:06:19 <andythenorth> toast 11:19:26 <Samu> hi 11:26:34 *** snail_UES_ has joined #openttd 11:33:33 *** FLHerne_ has quit IRC 11:40:37 *** snail_UES_ has quit IRC 12:03:42 * andythenorth reads tram movement code 12:08:52 <andythenorth> not found much about distance, nvm :) 12:12:53 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 12:20:26 *** snail_UES_ has joined #openttd 12:30:56 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 12:31:27 *** Compu has joined #openttd 12:33:18 *** snail_UES_ has quit IRC 12:35:44 <peter1138> I had lunch. A massive... salad. I overate on a salad. What is wrong with me? 12:35:52 <nakki> hah 12:36:31 <Artea> better than no appettite 12:36:43 <peter1138> I never have no appetite. 12:36:55 <Artea> I'm having for a couple of days now 12:37:06 <Artea> don't know what is wrong... I feel full 12:37:21 <Artea> maybe stress 12:37:38 <peter1138> Lucky. Stress makes me eat junk food. 12:37:45 <Artea> MU Online can be stressful game sometimes 12:38:16 <nakki> i have too much appetite, but i've been steadily losing weight since about a year ago when i started paying attention 12:38:29 <nakki> i've lost around 15 kilos, 10 more to go 12:38:52 <Artea> nice 12:39:06 <peter1138> Nice. 12:39:16 <nakki> so far my strategy has been conveniently forgetting to eat by finding something to really immerse myself in on my free time 12:39:22 <nakki> lately it's been learning nodejs and react 12:39:44 <peter1138> I achieved my goal last year, maintaining is somewhat easier when I continue to pay attention 12:40:19 <peter1138> My technique is to obsessively count calories (hence the joking about it here) 12:41:17 <nakki> ah 12:41:33 <nakki> i don't really have the patience for that, but i did ditch all snacking and sugary drinks 12:41:40 <nakki> but i won't give up beer 12:41:59 <nakki> i'll make concessions, but i'll never unconditionally surrender 12:42:02 <peter1138> That's the key, but I'm at the point where I can snack, but I have to limit it because snacking leads to more snacking. 12:42:12 *** Eddi|zuHause2 has joined #openttd 12:42:14 <nakki> mmh 12:42:20 <peter1138> So if I count it, that helps limit it. 12:42:31 <nakki> yeah 12:43:11 <peter1138> 39kg lost over 3.5 years. 12:43:21 <nakki> damn, nice 12:44:48 <andythenorth> peter1138: nothing wrong with overeating salad 12:44:58 <andythenorth> also it's actually pretty filling 12:45:19 <nakki> man, i'm hungry now 12:45:21 <peter1138> Yeah, it was mostly lettuce as well, as it was pointless to not finish it off, heh. 12:45:24 <andythenorth> that 12:45:43 <andythenorth> if I lost 39kg I'd be dead :( 12:45:51 <andythenorth> different folks, different strokes 12:45:57 *** snail_UES_ has joined #openttd 12:46:00 <peter1138> It helps to be rather overweight to start with... BMI 30 -> 20... 12:46:05 <nakki> hehe 12:46:07 <nakki> yeah 12:46:21 <nakki> i was a bit less than 110 at my worst, i'm now 90 and aiming for 80 12:46:21 <peter1138> I hit 19.4 last year but since Christmas haven't gone that low. 12:46:23 <nakki> kilos, that is 12:46:48 *** Eddi|zuHause has quit IRC 12:47:14 <peter1138> My starting was 116, now I'm 76. Lowest was 75, so not much lower. 12:47:23 <nakki> mmh 12:47:24 <peter1138> I'm also fecking tall though, so apparently I look like death. 12:47:29 <nakki> hah 12:49:31 <nakki> i think i was around 65kg when i got into university 12:49:40 <nakki> stick-thin shut-in nerd 13:07:46 *** snail_UES_ has quit IRC 13:44:46 <andythenorth> I am 65kg 13:45:17 <andythenorth> such fun chat 13:45:25 <andythenorth> oh these feldbahn 13:45:42 <andythenorth> by accident, the capacities now match exactly to boats in Unsinkable Sam 13:45:51 <andythenorth> which makes for very tidy transfer stations :P 13:46:03 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 13:47:17 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 14:09:03 *** FLHerne_ has joined #openttd 14:26:37 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nikolas updated pull request #7086: Change #6173: Update SDL driver to use SDL 2.0 https://git.io/fhamZ 14:37:21 *** FLHerne_ has quit IRC 14:37:31 *** FLHerne_ has joined #openttd 14:39:25 <LordAro> we should really look at merging that PR 14:40:09 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 14:40:09 *** Eddi|zuHause2 is now known as Eddi|zuHause 14:42:06 *** FLHerne_ has quit IRC 14:42:31 *** FLHerne_ has joined #openttd 14:43:56 <nnyby_> >_< 14:43:59 *** nnyby_ is now known as nnyby 14:45:52 <LordAro> nnyby: :> 14:52:44 *** FLHerne_ has quit IRC 14:52:51 *** FLHerne_ has joined #openttd 14:53:26 <Eddi|zuHause> honestly, dropping from 116 to 76 sounds really unhealthy 14:55:13 *** FLHerne_ has quit IRC 14:56:58 <rubenwardy> being overweight is really unhealthy 14:57:02 <rubenwardy> so is being underweight 15:02:58 <zuzak> I read a paper once that said obese is definitely bad, but merely overweight is actually correlated with longevity 15:03:47 <Eddi|zuHause> one study does not make a scientific consensus 15:14:00 <andythenorth> I suspect that in a famine, I'd be gone be pretty early 15:16:13 <Artea> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qqUbyLngjc 15:33:03 *** Flygon has quit IRC 15:46:54 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] matmar10 opened issue #7624: Changing rolling stock reverts on next visit to depot https://git.io/fj2MW 15:48:24 <andythenorth> how to even test that? 15:48:26 * andythenorth wonders 15:58:36 <frosch123> explain how to disable autoreplace 15:59:35 <nnyby> a little post about my openttd journey, lol: http://www.columbia.edu/~njn2118/journal/2019/6/14.html 15:59:39 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't think i understood the problem 16:04:53 <Eddi|zuHause> orudge: i'm not sure, but have the "save draft" and "post reply" buttons swapped places? for like the third time in a row i clicked the wrong one... 16:10:12 <frosch123> put the "donate" button in that place then 16:15:58 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 16:16:24 *** y2kboy23_ has quit IRC 16:17:28 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 16:18:39 *** y2kboy23 has joined #openttd 16:32:04 *** nielsm has joined #openttd 16:42:09 <andythenorth> hmm 16:42:11 <andythenorth> tractors 16:42:13 <andythenorth> tractor hog 16:43:23 * andythenorth biab 16:43:26 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 17:12:40 *** gareppa has joined #openttd 17:32:38 *** Progman has joined #openttd 18:15:29 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 18:15:49 <Wolf01> o/ 18:21:23 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 18:25:05 <andythenorth> is it lunch? 18:31:59 *** gelignite has quit IRC 18:33:09 <andythenorth> less talking, more coding andythenorth https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/9466/feldbahn_such.png 18:34:49 <andythenorth> oh here is the train I drew already https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRcjrtuqor0VFUlZ-KqHf6zIm9WzSu6bl71BcYC07FyFJpR8s0POg 18:34:52 <andythenorth> must be realistic then 18:50:16 *** glx has joined #openttd 18:50:16 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 19:09:14 <peter1138> It's evening lunch time, yes. 19:09:53 <andythenorth> deliveroo 19:10:37 <peter1138> I had better, my missus came home with a surprise rib-eye steak from a local farmer. 19:11:17 <andythenorth> there are worse surprises 19:11:24 <peter1138> Indeed. 19:17:43 <LordAro> nce 19:17:47 <LordAro> nice 19:17:52 <LordAro> i need to clean my keybard 19:17:56 <LordAro> keyboard. 19:18:02 <LordAro> my i & o are dying 19:19:21 <Eddi|zuHause> kezboard 19:27:42 <andythenorth> or you bought a mac 19:27:46 <andythenorth> standard eeature 19:27:51 <andythenorth> keys odn't work 19:35:31 <Eddi|zuHause> kezboard is a standard feature when the language driver didn't load 19:36:16 <Eddi|zuHause> one of the earliest dos commands i learned was "kezb gr" 19:36:16 <glx> it's keyboqrd here 19:44:07 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 19:46:53 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 19:51:43 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 20:29:50 *** rubenwardy has quit IRC 20:32:09 *** rubenwardy has joined #openttd 21:25:47 *** ZirconiumX has quit IRC 21:26:28 *** ZirconiumX has joined #openttd 21:47:19 *** andythenorth has left #openttd 22:01:23 *** nielsm has quit IRC 22:10:03 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 22:25:56 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 22:42:24 *** Progman has quit IRC 22:46:34 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 23:28:45 *** snail_UES_ has joined #openttd 23:43:06 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 23:49:17 *** chomwitt has joined #openttd 23:56:21 *** frosch123 has quit IRC