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#openttd 07:19:48 *** jeeg[m] has joined #openttd 07:19:52 *** Corns[m] has joined #openttd 07:19:52 *** paulus[m] has joined #openttd 07:19:53 *** ircer[m] has joined #openttd 07:19:53 *** josef[m] has joined #openttd 07:19:54 *** natmac[m] has joined #openttd 07:19:54 *** dude[m] has joined #openttd 07:19:54 *** king[m] has joined #openttd 07:19:55 *** gandi[m] has joined #openttd 07:19:55 *** freu[m] has joined #openttd 08:42:24 <ntsbmvnk> uh 08:42:31 <ntsbmvnk> is this a common thing? 08:42:44 <Eddi|zuHause> what? 08:42:52 <ntsbmvnk> the giant burst of parts and joins? 08:43:06 <Eddi|zuHause> a netsplit? 08:43:12 <Eddi|zuHause> happens sporadically 08:43:50 <nakki> aren't those matrix clients 08:44:15 <Eddi|zuHause> dunno, i have join/part disabled for people who haven't said a word in the last 24 hours 08:44:45 <nakki> yeah that's nice 08:44:55 <Eddi|zuHause> but if the matrix bridge goes down, it's effectively the same as a netsplit 08:45:00 <nakki> yeah true 08:45:01 <Heiki> looks like the Matrix gateway is having some hiccup, nothing serious I think 08:45:15 <ntsbmvnk> oh right, fair 08:45:32 <ntsbmvnk> I'm used to how freenode handles it - makes sense. 08:49:06 <peter1138> Personally I'd just ban it :p 08:50:13 <planetmaker> from the amount of talk being done, you can probably skip 80% of the users here and miss 5% of talk at most :D 09:10:25 <ntsbmvnk> but I enjoy lurking 09:11:13 <nakki> me too 09:11:28 <nakki> i have 32 buffers open in weechat, and i actively use... maybe five? 09:14:14 <ntsbmvnk> I lurk aggressively 09:14:28 <ntsbmvnk> to the point I have a vm just running my irc client 09:16:37 <nakki> i have a server in my bedroom running my irc client, an openttd server, murmur and nginx 09:17:10 <nakki> built out of old parts cannibalized from previous desktop computers 09:19:20 <ntsbmvnk> nice. 09:19:33 <nakki> it's pretty handy 09:19:38 <ntsbmvnk> I'm just cheap an bought a vm 09:19:39 <nakki> got fairly low ping to it :P 09:19:51 <nakki> yeah i used to have a hetzner vps 09:19:55 <nakki> and a digitalocean one before that 09:19:58 <ntsbmvnk> there's something magical to using *someone else's computer* 09:23:33 <LordAro> peter1138: eh, matrix is much closer to an actual irc user than a discord bridge 09:23:45 <LordAro> no different when irccloud has issues 09:23:57 <LordAro> or <insert other cloud irc provider here> 09:28:42 <planetmaker> ntsbmvnk, well... guess what my IRC connection runs on... a VM with just an IRC bouncer. But not from my bedroom. I prefer to have it running elsewhere. 09:30:41 * LordAro also 09:30:47 <peter1138> LordAro, I'm aware. Fortunately the mass disconnects don't happen often. 09:31:01 <peter1138> Also, I had a mini patisserie. 09:31:20 * LordAro also has irssi permanently running in a tmux session on the same server as his znc instance 09:31:24 <LordAro> redundancy, yo 09:32:55 * peter1138 is attempting to not pig out on giant cookies. 09:34:03 <peter1138> Damn all this rain, I'm now down to only 79 miles ahead of my target. 09:34:55 <LordAro> peter1138: :< 09:35:06 <LordAro> i'm +400 right now 09:35:13 <peter1138> Oh I guess Sunday was okay, but I was away. 09:35:38 <LordAro> considering upping my target to 7k 09:36:11 <peter1138> :-) 09:36:48 <LordAro> managed to screw up my rear brake while fiddling with it yesterday evening 09:36:53 <peter1138> Uh oh 09:37:11 <LordAro> but i now know more precisely what was wrong with it before - one of the pistons has jammed 09:37:25 <LordAro> explains the excessively uneven wear 09:37:48 <LordAro> managed to jam some old pads in it so that it was only slightly sticking 09:37:54 <LordAro> 5 miles to work seems to have improved it 09:46:32 <peter1138> If it's jammed then it'll probably just jam again :( 09:47:07 <LordAro> oh, i mean the pads were only slightly sticking to the disc 09:47:13 <LordAro> the piston won't budge at all 09:47:24 <peter1138> Ah. 09:47:33 <peter1138> New calipers are not *that* expensive. 09:47:41 <peter1138> Better than having non-working brakes. 09:47:56 <LordAro> indeed 09:48:23 <LordAro> shop can probably free it though, i was just unable to while it was still attached to the bike 09:49:08 <LordAro> when googling i saw several mentions of "grease guns" being used, which can do ridiciulous amounts of PSI 09:50:20 <LordAro> (there were equally many people saying this was ridiculous and unsafe thing to do) 10:04:23 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 10:23:53 <peter1138> Hmm, 76.9 kg. I can probably get away with a cookie :p 10:24:49 <nakki> hah 10:24:54 <nakki> nice 10:26:47 <peter1138> But if I have fruit, I can eat more! 10:57:46 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 11:18:38 *** Samu has joined #openttd 11:34:42 *** tokai has joined #openttd 11:34:42 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai 11:41:39 *** tokai|noir has quit IRC 11:51:42 *** nielsm has quit IRC 12:36:53 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 12:42:52 *** snail_UES_ has joined #openttd 12:50:46 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 12:51:02 <andythenorth> yo 12:51:47 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 12:52:33 *** snail_UES_ has quit IRC 12:52:39 <planetmaker> o/ 12:59:03 <peter1138> I already lunched without verifying that it was lunchtime! 12:59:05 <peter1138> Shame on me. 13:00:23 <planetmaker> oh noes...! But we shall exercise merci and forgive you 13:00:45 <planetmaker> but more important: is it tea time already? 13:00:50 <planetmaker> My stomach says 'yes' 13:02:34 <Eddi|zuHause> with so many english people here there's a surprisingly low amount of discussion about teatime 13:04:16 <planetmaker> one might think that clichées don't always hold true :P 13:05:25 <nakki> this is my fifth cup of coffee during this workday 13:05:33 <nakki> i should probably switch to tea 13:14:24 <supermop_work> it is kouign amann time here 13:14:35 *** gareppa has joined #openttd 13:16:17 <supermop_work> plus 2nd cup of coffee 13:16:45 <LordAro> Eddi|zuHause: we're too busy drinking tea to discuss it 13:17:00 <LordAro> "is it teatime" is a useless question 13:17:13 <andythenorth> I stopped drinking tea 10 years ago 13:17:16 <andythenorth> I missi t 13:17:18 <andythenorth> miss it * 13:17:48 * andythenorth thinking of ways to make some vehicles get higher cargo payment 13:17:55 <andythenorth> this might be unwise 13:20:01 *** nielsm has joined #openttd 13:23:19 *** gareppa has quit IRC 13:33:15 <ntsbmvnk> planetmaker: tea isn't a universal thing among the English 13:33:30 <ntsbmvnk> tea in the sense of referring to dinner 13:33:44 <ntsbmvnk> tea, as in the drink, we're wild for. 13:35:27 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 13:49:11 *** nielsm has quit IRC 14:20:14 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: you might try to micromanage things that shouldn't be micromanaged? 14:22:11 <andythenorth> it's liable to not work 14:22:45 <andythenorth> eh well 14:24:01 <andythenorth> I designed 3 vehicle sets without understanding what prop 2B does :) So now I am trying to bail myself out :P 14:24:07 <andythenorth> without redesigning :P 14:24:22 <andythenorth> https://i.pinimg.com/originals/4c/28/79/4c2879b8c1e1a44bbd8cb9d7b3778977.png 14:36:12 *** nielsm has joined #openttd 14:53:39 *** Gustavo6046 has joined #openttd 15:14:25 *** Flygon has quit IRC 16:25:34 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 16:25:51 <ntsbmvnk> What are the highest profit industries to go after? 16:26:00 <Eddi|zuHause> passengers 16:26:14 <ntsbmvnk> I've had a bit of a play and got coal>power going + wood>sawmill 16:26:23 <ntsbmvnk> Eddi|zuHause: really? 16:26:27 <Eddi|zuHause> you get profit both ways, and near infinite growth 16:26:35 <ntsbmvnk> oh neat 16:39:30 <FLHerne> ntsbmvnk: Other than passengers, goods (and steel to a lesser extent) are much more profitable than primary cargos 16:40:36 <FLHerne> ntsbmvnk: Note that there's a "cargo payment rates" graph under the graphs menu 16:41:49 <FLHerne> Because payments are by distance, and payment rates increase with end-to-end average speed, the way to make silly money in OTTD is to ship anything you like from one end of the map to the other in as straight a line as possible 16:43:11 <FLHerne> That includes building straight over intervening mountains, because the extra train locomotives are very cheap in the long run compared to a longer route, more construction time, or terraforming costs 16:43:47 <FLHerne> Note: this will leave you with (a) a very ugly map and (b) more money than you can ever plausibly spend on anything 16:44:36 <FLHerne> So most long-term players stop caring about money and come up with some other target 16:45:58 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 16:48:59 <Eddi|zuHause> the most no-brainer money printing machine is put two airports at opposite ends of the map 16:50:39 <frosch123> i think, if you enable breakdowns, there is an optimum distance for aircraft transport, which is smaller than infinity 16:51:11 <Eddi|zuHause> possibly, but it depends on plane model and plane speed factor 16:56:04 <andythenorth> quak 17:06:07 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 17:22:55 *** Progman has joined #openttd 17:24:21 *** Gumle2 has joined #openttd 17:26:39 *** Gumle2 has quit IRC 17:30:20 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 17:31:31 * andythenorth plots 17:31:41 <andythenorth> mud HAUL road and concrete HAUL road? 17:34:40 <andythenorth> or maybe like this? o_O https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=75941&hilit=docklands#p1182980 17:55:01 *** glx has joined #openttd 17:55:01 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 17:55:20 <Eddi|zuHause> rural haul road and industrial haul road? 17:59:41 <andythenorth> yes 18:00:00 <andythenorth> we have lots of types :) 18:00:07 <andythenorth> nesting the build menu? o_O 18:01:10 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 18:04:34 <nielsm> multi-column menu? 18:05:19 <andythenorth> type-ahead filter menu? 18:18:11 *** cHawk has quit IRC 18:48:19 <Wolf01> Sleepflix time? Too soon? 18:51:55 * andythenorth making web apps 18:51:58 <andythenorth> very work 19:00:51 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: this is the point where $someone brings up the idea of separating visual differences and functional differences 19:01:25 <andythenorth> ButGroundTypes 19:01:34 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 20:09:51 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 21:14:02 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 21:21:30 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 21:27:29 <peter1138> Urgh, fell off ;/ 21:30:35 <Eddi|zuHause> that sounds unhealthy 21:31:03 *** gelignite has quit IRC 21:31:20 <peter1138> I try to avoid it. 21:31:56 <peter1138> Narrow fast down hill section with a little gully bit. Bike tried to go up the side but it was slippery and didn't o_O 21:33:11 <Eddi|zuHause> and what did your protective gear say about the incident? 21:34:22 <peter1138> My... my what? 21:35:09 <Eddi|zuHause> dunno, helmet would be a start? 21:35:28 <peter1138> Oh right, that. No contact there. 21:35:58 <Eddi|zuHause> if i were to actually pick up biking, i might also invest in hand/elbow/knee protectors 21:37:16 <LordAro> peter1138: :( 21:39:05 <peter1138> Still, this white chocolate raspberry protein bar is nice. 21:39:50 <Eddi|zuHause> sounds like a weird snickers 21:41:32 <peter1138> https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fdlfcx3ve58mx2.cloudfront.net%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F08%2Fquest-protein-bar-white-chocolate-raspberry.jpg&f=1 21:41:37 <peter1138> Something like that :p 21:41:44 <peter1138> Looks foul but tastes good. 21:47:25 *** Tirili has joined #openttd 21:49:19 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 21:56:20 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 22:27:27 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 22:43:23 *** Progman has quit IRC 22:49:29 *** nielsm has quit IRC 23:01:20 *** Laedek_ has quit IRC 23:12:03 *** Tirili has quit IRC 23:15:24 *** Tirili has joined #openttd 23:17:25 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 23:17:42 *** Laedek has joined #openttd 23:37:25 *** Tirili has quit IRC 23:58:16 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd