Log for #openttd on 2nd July 2019:
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06:44:24  <nakki> this is a cursed morning
06:53:54  * andythenorth somewhat fixed FIRS production
07:07:19  <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: i did tell you a few months ago that dropping the leftover calculation was a bad idea
07:07:26  <andythenorth> yes
07:17:04  <andythenorth> I should document why it has to be there
07:17:22  <andythenorth> it appears to be due to the vehicle unload cycle moving very small amounts to the industry
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08:18:57  <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nikolas commented on pull request #7086: Change #6173: Update SDL driver to use SDL 2.0
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08:32:16  <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nikolas updated pull request #7086: Change #6173: Update SDL driver to use SDL 2.0
08:32:48  <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nikolas updated pull request #7086: Change #6173: Update SDL driver to use SDL 2.0
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13:46:53  <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] James103 opened issue #7635: Game crash on exit scenario editor when you build or demolish infrastructure
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14:13:29  <LordAro> more bugs? :(
14:21:10  <peter1138> Features.
14:21:37  <peter1138> Hmm, wondering if I should take the short or long route home.
14:22:25  <LordAro> medium.
14:26:20  <peter1138> Heh
14:28:22  <peter1138> Hmm, 30 vs 50 minutes.
14:30:49  <peter1138> Or, indeed, the as-yet unridden medium route, of probably 40 minutes. (11 miles)
14:31:33  <peter1138> Mainly cos it stays on main roads longer than the short and long routes, so is basically pointless.
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14:45:29  <andythenorth> Long
14:45:32  <andythenorth> it's a nice day
14:45:34  <andythenorth> probly
14:45:47  <andythenorth> I took the 'waiting at red traffic lights a lot' routes yesterday :P
14:45:48  <peter1138> Allegedly it's sunny and 20°C. It's not.
14:45:49  <andythenorth> quite annoying
14:46:19  <peter1138> Hmm, although I'm going out tonight, so maybe I can't be arsed with the long route.
15:06:46  <LordAro> peter1138: i'd do my longer route more often, but i'd need to remember to bring actual cycling clothes
15:06:52  <LordAro> otherwise i get overly damp
15:07:05  <peter1138> Heh
15:07:37  <peter1138> I have stealth clothing: MTB-style shorts and a wicking vest.
15:07:57  <peter1138> Although I don't usually put enough effort in to sweat profusely.
15:07:58  <LordAro> mm, that could work actually
15:08:13  <LordAro> my normal shorts are more of a beige, which kinda shows a bit
15:08:44  <peter1138> I had a bit of extertion getting a KOM on Sunday mind you.
15:30:57  <Samu> the new RailwAI version is apparently performing worse
15:31:20  <Samu> don't know if i should repeat all the rounds with the new version or wait for a more stable version
15:31:51  <Samu> kinda sucks to do about 40~ rounds only to get another version out again
15:34:42  <Samu> version 18
15:44:22  <peter1138> Nodoby really cares :p
15:44:54  <Eddi|zuHause> a KraftOMnibus?
15:45:00  <andythenorth> I don't mind this particular spam though :)
15:45:03  <andythenorth> I find it nice
15:46:35  <Eddi|zuHause> <-- quite a bit down the list :)
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15:58:18  <peter1138> Yes, because I often write in German...
15:58:33  <peter1138> <-- also quite a bit down the list, but you can probably guess which one...
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17:01:42  <andythenorth> which way shall I cycle home?
17:01:53  <andythenorth> up the short steep hill, or the long shallow hill?
17:01:58  <andythenorth> lolz, what am I saying
17:02:02  <andythenorth> there is no shallow hill :P
17:02:06  <Eddi|zuHause> this way ->
17:02:12  <andythenorth> exit stage right
17:02:28  <Eddi|zuHause> remember that stage right is on your left :p
17:03:49  <andythenorth> it's only a 47m vertical climb actually
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17:04:04  <Wolf01> o/
17:04:05  <Eddi|zuHause> that's like a 15 story building
17:04:17  <andythenorth> 3.6km, google says 15 mins, I think I can prove that wrong
17:04:25  <andythenorth> eh, the route I normally go is 4.8km :o
17:04:35  <andythenorth> doesn't feel longer :P
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17:29:40  <rubenwardy> stage right would be on his right, if he's facing the audience
17:29:50  <rubenwardy> stage directions - perspective of actor facing audience
17:29:59  <rubenwardy> house directions - perspective of audience
17:30:09  <rubenwardy> I only know this because of friends
17:30:47  <Eddi|zuHause> not on the stages i've been
17:31:19  <rubenwardy> F•R•I•E•N•D•S
17:31:20  <rubenwardy>
17:31:21  <Eddi|zuHause> stage directions were always from the view of the audience (where the director would sit in rehearsals)
17:31:32  <rubenwardy> nope, see link
17:32:05  <rubenwardy>
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17:51:55  <andythenorth> 3.7km 58m vertical climb
17:52:06  <andythenorth> google says 17min, I got 9min
17:52:16  <andythenorth> lucky with green traffic lights
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17:52:38  <andythenorth> also bike has go faster electrification mode :P
17:55:19  <Eddi|zuHause> according to google, if i want to go Anywhere(tm), it's 17km, 108m up, 127m down
17:55:31  <Eddi|zuHause> about 1h
17:58:48  <Eddi|zuHause> just leaving the village is a climb of 23m over a distance of 450m
17:58:48  <andythenorth> is faster on electric bike? :P
17:59:49  <Eddi|zuHause> 23m over 300m
18:01:14  <Eddi|zuHause> then it's a drop of 33m over 750m
18:02:21  <Eddi|zuHause> then it's a climb of 27m over 1.5km
18:03:36  <Eddi|zuHause> then there's a short flat section and a drop of 52m over 2km
18:04:10  <andythenorth> ouch
18:05:07  <Eddi|zuHause> and then a climb of 27m over 850m
18:05:23  <Eddi|zuHause> and then i still haven't reached the city limits
18:05:34  <Eddi|zuHause> and to go back the whole thing in reverse...
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18:06:25  <andythenorth> electric bike with big battery :P
18:06:58  <andythenorth> mine only has about 5 mile range if ridden everywhere on turbo
18:08:49  <Eddi|zuHause> it's less climbing if i go on the main road, but that would be crazy and borderline life-threatening
18:09:08  <Eddi|zuHause> and only slightly less...
18:11:32  <andythenorth> so who here has an electric car? :)
18:11:58  <Eddi|zuHause> i'd like one, but it's probably not yet realistic
18:12:26  <Eddi|zuHause> but i should probably be getting a new car by the end of the year...
18:15:53  <andythenorth> I am interested how fast it will switch
18:15:55  <andythenorth> and what blocks it
18:16:42  <Eddi|zuHause> the main blocker for me right now is the high entry cost
18:17:35  <Eddi|zuHause> a lesser annoyance would be the long recharging times at long distance trips
18:21:43  <andythenorth> do you buy cars cash, or finance?
18:22:45  <Eddi|zuHause> i've never actually, technically, bought a car myself
18:26:05  <Eddi|zuHause> i'm not sure i'd get away with financing at the moment
18:26:21  <Eddi|zuHause> although that would probably be the sane thing to do
18:26:42  <andythenorth> last time I looked seriously was ~2 years ago
18:27:05  <andythenorth> the battery was confusing - do you own it or rent it?
18:27:11  <andythenorth> so I bought a diesel van :P
18:27:18  <andythenorth> I think that will get addressed this year
18:27:26  <Eddi|zuHause> last time i pushed my old car through the checks, which was probably more expensive than getting a new old car...
18:27:53  <Eddi|zuHause> diesel is dead
18:28:30  <Eddi|zuHause> (also, i'm not driving nearly enough for a diesel to have made sense)
18:32:16  <andythenorth> electrification has to come, and soon
18:32:33  <andythenorth> there are only 2 electric cars on my street, in a very liberal, affluent area
18:33:05  <Eddi|zuHause> it has to, but it's still only the first step
18:34:15  <Eddi|zuHause> a) you now need more electricity, b) you need to produce this new electricity without using carbon, c) you also need to produce the other electricity without carbon
18:34:48  <Eddi|zuHause> d) and preferably also not irreversably radiating the planet while doing so
18:34:52  <andythenorth> it's non-trivial
18:35:18  <andythenorth> but transport electrification creates demand which attracts capital
18:35:23  <andythenorth> and creates battery reserve
18:37:57  <andythenorth> I look at this a lot
18:38:09  <andythenorth> in summer the UK regularly pushes 20%-35% renewables
19:10:08  <andythenorth> I really enjoy Pikka's AI
19:10:46  <andythenorth>
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22:23:21  <tfgbd_> Wheres the PPC version
22:29:27  <tfgbd_> NM, I found it:
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