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09:33:59 <nakki> that's not good for you 09:34:19 <V453000> I mean I disappeared for a rather long time from here again 09:36:29 *** Smedles has quit IRC 09:36:39 <peter1138> Well me too. 09:36:45 <peter1138> I'm here but not here :p 09:51:54 *** tycoondemon has quit IRC 09:53:17 *** tycoondemon has joined #openttd 09:53:22 *** Smedles has joined #openttd 09:54:27 *** gareppa has quit IRC 10:06:38 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 10:09:21 <andythenorth> not as good as what V453000 does, but a start https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=68616&p=1223786#p1223786 10:09:30 * andythenorth wants to make a tech tree with graphviz 10:09:50 <V453000> you'll have slugs in your set in no time at this rate 10:10:25 <andythenorth> oh I missed something 10:10:57 <andythenorth> "The main thing is that in Iron Horse you can still have a good game by just picking the train that you think looks nice" 10:14:37 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 10:15:04 <peter1138> Heh 10:24:56 *** Samu has joined #openttd 10:32:50 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 10:35:04 <Samu> who can rebase this https://github.com/SamuXarick/OpenTTD/tree/SamuPatchPackRebase and built a windows x64 for me? nobody most likely 10:35:09 <Samu> build* 10:36:13 <Samu> the commit from 23rd july fixes many trains ais 10:37:39 <Samu> or i dunno, i dont think i can install visual studio here 10:37:49 <Samu> too scared to even try 10:40:07 <Samu> just tried, requires admin priviledges, :( 10:40:13 <Samu> cant install 10:44:25 <LordAro> there's no reason it requires admin privileges 10:44:40 <LordAro> download the zip instead of the installer 10:45:14 *** Wacko1976 has quit IRC 10:47:24 <andythenorth> raising depot speed limits eh? :) 10:47:36 <andythenorth> depot speed limit disturbs me greatly 10:47:47 <andythenorth> https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=85624 10:47:52 <andythenorth> goes it throw out? 10:49:15 <LordAro> Samu: oh, sorry, thought you were talking about OTTD, not VS 10:49:21 <LordAro> yeah, VS will require admin 11:01:40 <peter1138> Samu, no admin rights on your own PC? 11:02:02 <Samu> this isn't mine 11:02:06 <peter1138> Ahhh 11:02:11 <peter1138> Well that's logical :-) 11:04:26 *** gareppa has joined #openttd 11:09:07 *** Samu has quit IRC 11:16:45 <andythenorth> can you run a VM? o_O 11:19:03 <LordAro> would be difficult without admin, i think 11:19:14 <LordAro> certainly wouldn't be able to have any networking 11:19:32 <LordAro> could probably set up MSYS 11:51:09 *** Samu has joined #openttd 11:58:49 *** Thedarkb-T60 has quit IRC 12:03:30 *** Thedarkb-T60 has joined #openttd 12:08:09 *** Smedles_ has joined #openttd 12:11:12 *** Smedles has quit IRC 12:41:09 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 12:50:52 *** glx has joined #openttd 12:50:52 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 12:51:57 <Samu> oh, station coverage is already in 12:52:14 <Samu> that breaks my AI logic :( 12:52:59 <Samu> I hardcoded station coverage, and now it doesn't work as before 12:58:40 <peter1138> Hardcoded? Seems silly. 12:59:34 <Samu> isn't there a way to get coverage of a station should I join a part to it? 12:59:43 <Samu> i think there isn't 13:01:00 <Samu> that's the thing I tried to code for my ai 13:02:21 <peter1138> I... don't remmeber. 13:02:30 <peter1138> Maybe there's only "is this tile in the coverage" or something? 13:05:20 <Samu> https://github.com/SamuXarick/LuDiAI-AfterFix/blob/master/Utils.nut#L233 13:06:38 <Samu> get top corner and south corner, then add my station part to it and extend north and south corners 13:06:47 <Samu> but it doesn't work like that anymore 13:08:01 *** debdog has quit IRC 13:12:02 <Samu> oh, seems that this function is still fine, it's trying to locate an airport within the max station spread radius, to attach to it 13:12:40 <Samu> returns the station id of that airport 13:13:39 <Samu> I seem to not care about coverage radius the way I thought i did 13:13:55 <peter1138> Ok 13:15:17 <Samu> the coverage was already done before 13:15:30 <Samu> it's... dumb, but uh... works 13:16:03 <Samu> computes coverage for the station that is being placed only 13:16:16 <Samu> even if I later attach it to another 13:17:07 <Samu> station part* 13:17:26 <Samu> let me find 13:23:50 <Samu> https://github.com/SamuXarick/LuDiAI-AfterFix/blob/master/BuildManager.nut#L204 13:25:11 <Samu> yeah, I only get the coverage of the station part I'm going to build even if i attach to another, so it's fine 13:29:02 *** Wacko1976 has joined #openttd 13:32:23 <Samu> i do the same for airport https://github.com/SamuXarick/LuDiAI-AfterFix/blob/master/WrightAI.nut#L917 13:33:12 <rubenwardy> since when did OpenTTD support squirrel? 13:33:21 <rubenwardy> Last I remembered, it used some obscure assembly format 13:33:38 <Eddi|zuHause> going on 10 years or so? 13:34:01 *** gareppa has quit IRC 13:34:08 <Eddi|zuHause> note that squirrel and "obscure assembly format" do very different things 13:36:39 <Samu> later at line 940 i check for a station to attach the airport to 13:37:04 <Samu> so, it seems the new coverage mechanics doesn't impact my AI 13:40:05 <Samu> in a bad way 13:42:12 *** sim-al2 has quit IRC 14:33:54 *** Thedarkb-T60 has quit IRC 14:34:01 *** Thedarkb-T60 has joined #openttd 14:40:31 *** Samu has quit IRC 14:50:45 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 14:56:56 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 14:58:10 *** Samu has joined #openttd 14:58:55 <Samu> my ai does so poor without station spread in a competing environment 15:11:02 <Samu> max ops for my AI are always being lowered, that doesn't help either 15:12:50 <frosch123> V453000: have you considered adding an inefficient recipe for turning raw oil into lubricant, so you can have lubricant without advanced oil processing 15:15:04 *** Wacko1976 has quit IRC 15:17:01 <Eddi|zuHause> that sounds wrong on so many levels 15:18:41 <Samu> https://imgur.com/nwEPqJ4 15:27:38 <Samu> listening to demonic music, or so it seems https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZ-oEHkv7LA 15:27:54 <Samu> delerium's early work 15:40:20 <peter1138> Listening to... 65daysofstatic. 15:40:26 <peter1138> It's... not really doing it for me at the moment. 15:41:13 *** Flygon has quit IRC 15:42:11 <andythenorth> I have been learning about Chris & Cosey 15:42:22 <andythenorth> and Ultramarine 15:45:40 <Samu> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delerium#Albums_/_EPs 15:48:58 *** Wacko1976 has joined #openttd 15:58:25 <Samu> Spheres 2 should have been released before Semantic Spaces, but Dossier was too slow to publish it, it came after 15:59:51 <Samu> Semantic Spaces and Karma are the transition albums 16:02:32 <Samu> from dark, grim, depressive ambient music, into vocal, fantabulastic, dream, trance kind of music 16:03:54 *** Progman has joined #openttd 16:06:13 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 16:06:49 <Samu> my AI reached last place! 16:06:59 <Samu> but it's still growing in company value 16:13:05 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 16:21:22 <Samu> gelignite: plz make your AI more competitive, do what it does already, but on multiple towns 16:21:32 <Samu> im sure it would turn competitive enough 16:29:54 *** debdog has joined #openttd 16:43:01 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 17:02:20 *** Progman has quit IRC 17:12:46 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 17:14:18 <Samu> @calc 1000/60 17:14:19 <DorpsGek> Samu: 16.6666666667 17:14:25 <Samu> oh ops 17:14:29 <Samu> @calc 1000/33 17:14:29 <DorpsGek> Samu: 30.303030303 17:16:04 <Samu> i wanted to improve the max ops thingy 17:16:13 <Samu> t.t 17:20:09 <Samu> it works, the average ms for AIs is always below 30.00 ms 17:20:18 <Samu> all AIs 17:20:40 <Samu> but... this isn't exactly playable, there more stuff going on in openttd 17:22:02 <andythenorth> Horse 98% 17:30:01 <andythenorth> last 2% :x 17:33:47 *** gelignite has quit IRC 17:42:01 <Samu> @calc 49-23 17:42:01 <DorpsGek> Samu: 26 17:42:30 <frosch123> andythenorth: maybe you need more digits? 1.975% ? 17:42:47 <Samu> all scripts average 23 ms 17:42:50 <andythenorth> I am already rounding :) 17:42:55 <Samu> the rest averages 26 ms 17:43:02 <frosch123> extra digits may also help with pixels 17:43:19 *** chomwitt has joined #openttd 17:43:35 <Samu> for a playable fps, the average is 30 ms... 17:43:43 <Samu> what can I do 17:49:22 <Samu> can't do anything 17:49:51 <Samu> unless I subtract from the total 17:50:30 <Samu> then there's only 4 ms for all scripts... 17:50:48 <Samu> @calc 30-26 17:50:48 <DorpsGek> Samu: 4 17:50:52 <Samu> :( 17:56:12 <Samu> road vehicles alone already average 10 ms 17:59:05 <Samu> game loop total doesn't include graphics or sound? 18:05:21 <peter1138> No, because that's not the game loop. 18:08:36 <Samu> https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/compare/master...SamuXarick:SamuPatchPackRebase#diff-5174deab34f3d1f2d52055d766de6325R274 - instead of PFE_ALLSCRIPTS 18:08:51 <Samu> PFE_whateverGameLoopIsCalled 18:15:24 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nikolas updated pull request #7086: Change #6173: Update SDL driver to use SDL 2.0 https://git.io/fhamZ 18:38:32 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nikolas commented on pull request #7086: Change #6173: Update SDL driver to use SDL 2.0 https://git.io/fjylq 18:39:27 *** urdh has quit IRC 18:40:54 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 18:41:54 <andythenorth> ouch still 98% :x 18:41:59 <andythenorth> 4 trains left to draw 18:42:09 <andythenorth> 352 drawn 18:42:18 <andythenorth> 353 even 18:48:40 *** Progman has joined #openttd 18:59:36 <V453000> frosch123: we did consider that, but didn't like it for $reasons, basically to avoid duplicate recipes 19:00:24 <frosch123> fair enough :) 19:00:25 <V453000> I believe when the drama ends and people get an actual release it will calm down eventually and it will be fine ... or we will see it's not fine and do further changes, no drama. :) 19:00:40 <frosch123> i like the sulfur in the science pack :) 19:01:06 <V453000> My alternate proposal was to introduce a second refinery recipe which would only make heavy and light, and would have an input of petroleum gas so that it would be mandatory to do the simple one first 19:01:08 <V453000> but eh 19:04:37 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 19:05:41 <andythenorth> this sounds nuts 19:05:57 <andythenorth> actually it sounds like the new FIRS extreme I'm planning :P 19:06:00 <V453000> :D 19:06:10 <andythenorth> "better living through chemistry' 19:06:21 <andythenorth> my keyboard is fucked again :x 19:08:23 <Samu> azure dev ops builds for me? 19:08:54 <Samu> so many questions 19:10:57 <Samu> setting up random stuff and I happened to be here now: https://dev.azure.com/djsamu/SamuXarick%20OpenTTD/_build/results?buildId=1 19:12:05 <Samu> where will I download this "build" 19:13:05 <Samu> i dont even care about linux, but fine... 19:21:22 <peter1138> Nobody even cares about your builds, but fine... 19:23:15 <Samu> doesn't seem like this is what I want 19:23:32 <andythenorth> what do we care about? 19:23:34 <andythenorth> fixing my keyboard? 19:25:32 <andythenorth> hmm 19:25:38 <andythenorth> I took the N key off 19:25:47 <andythenorth> which way up do I put it back on? 19:26:19 <andythenorth> am I going to be mad about this now? or is it fixed again? 19:29:27 *** urdh has joined #openttd 19:41:58 <Samu> deleted ! 19:42:10 <Samu> can't be arsed to understand how this works 19:45:52 <Samu> You're all set. A job has been queued to uninstall Azure Pipelines 19:45:57 <Samu> just do it!! 19:46:42 <Samu> good, it's gone 20:00:36 *** Thedarkb-T60 has quit IRC 20:29:24 *** Thedarkb-T60 has joined #openttd 20:38:41 <Samu> I really need my computer :( 20:39:12 <Samu> my dear vacuum cleaner AMD system 20:40:10 <Samu> oh, it got 1 vote https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=85608 20:40:36 <Samu> a poll with many options for only 1 vote :) 21:07:44 *** Samu has quit IRC 21:15:22 *** andythenorth has left #openttd 21:52:49 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 22:45:19 *** Wacko1976 has quit IRC 22:56:48 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 23:00:39 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TTrebron opened pull request #7669: Fix #7655: Decrease buttons in cheat window do not work properly https://git.io/fjy4F 23:05:19 *** Smedles_ has quit IRC 23:15:46 *** Smedles has joined #openttd 23:41:25 *** Progman has quit IRC 23:42:12 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC