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00:36:39 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 00:54:44 *** glx has quit IRC 00:58:06 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 01:58:35 *** Wormnest_ has quit IRC 02:27:08 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 02:29:12 *** D-HUND has joined #openttd 02:32:33 *** debdog has quit IRC 03:31:41 *** Wormnest_ has joined #openttd 03:54:25 *** Thedarkb-X40 has quit IRC 08:10:53 *** sim-al2 has quit IRC 08:57:50 *** Samu has joined #openttd 09:19:34 *** Pikka has joined #openttd 09:53:29 *** qwebirc43886 has joined #openttd 09:54:57 <qwebirc43886> русские есть? 09:55:12 *** qwebirc43886 has quit IRC 10:02:17 <LordAro> "Russians are?" according to google translate 10:08:55 *** Pikka has quit IRC 10:40:45 <Samu> no 10:59:36 *** Thedarkb-X40 has joined #openttd 12:06:35 <Xaroth> s/are/here/ probably 12:28:42 <LordAro> Xaroth: i assumed as such 14:00:43 *** nielsm has joined #openttd 14:07:12 *** nielsm is now known as Guest492 14:08:04 *** nielsm has joined #openttd 14:10:45 *** Guest492 has quit IRC 14:21:59 *** tokai has joined #openttd 14:21:59 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai 14:37:51 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 14:58:18 <Samu> my customized pathfinder is utterly slow, just tried this on official 1.9.2 with default 10000 ops/medium speed 14:59:17 <Samu> 1 and half year to pathfind a route of 90 manhathan 14:59:22 <Samu> :( 15:01:30 *** Flygon has quit IRC 15:02:36 *** spnda has joined #openttd 15:43:19 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 15:48:32 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 15:51:10 *** supermop_work has joined #openttd 15:51:17 <supermop_work> yo 16:23:21 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 16:36:18 *** k has joined #openttd 16:36:32 *** k is now known as adikt 16:40:51 <adikt> prob stupid question... not a big deal either but i'm going to ask anyway.... where is the openmsx file supposed to be installed for the playback? i'm running 1.7.1 on linux mint 19.2 using the sudo apt install openttd ... i realize i can just install the newer version, however was having same issue with music... when i install it in game and go to sounds to skip the track it scrolls through all the track names but doesn't play any 16:40:51 <adikt> of them... 16:41:22 <adikt> not really sure what the issue is, and it's not THAT BIG of a deal as everythign else works... but the soundtrack to the game is a bitchin tune i remember from childhood and would like to get it working 16:46:47 <nielsm> if you install openmsx via the in-game downloader it should unpack the right place, probably under ~/.openttd/content_download/baseset/ 16:47:34 <nielsm> but also keep in mind that openmsx is not much like simon foster's original soundtrack from transport tycoon (deluxe) 16:48:52 <adikt> i tried installing it via sudo apt install openttd-openmsx when the ingame downloader failed 16:49:04 <nielsm> I'm getting old... simon foster drew the art, john broomhall composed the music 16:49:12 <milek7> do you have timidity installed? 16:49:17 <adikt> neither solution works.. have the same issue on another computer running ubuntu 16:49:23 <adikt> wtf is timidity... 16:49:31 <nielsm> yes, you need timidity (the executable) installed for music playback to work 16:49:39 <nielsm> it's a software midi synthesizer 16:49:51 <adikt> i bet that's it 16:50:40 <adikt> nope... weird... gonna see if it actually installed to the right place 16:50:50 <adikt> it's something along the line of i dont have a codec or something 16:50:55 <nielsm> worth mentioning that in 1.9 we added a more reliable music playback for linux builds, based on linking fluidsynth directly 16:51:40 <nielsm> but I'm surprised the content downloader is failing for you 16:51:47 <adikt> i'm a novice linux user who needs to go youtube how the filesystem works 16:52:04 <adikt> scared to compile my own stuff lol 16:52:20 <adikt> yeah the sound effects work just not the music 16:53:17 <adikt> try the 1.9 install :D 16:54:34 <nielsm> music and sound effects are entirely separate :) 16:54:50 <nielsm> the sound effects are sampled audio, the music is midi data 16:55:26 <adikt> that's why i asked the path of the file.. i'm trying the ingame downloader in 1.9 right now 16:55:31 <adikt> just removed 1.7 16:56:01 <milek7> does running 'timidity' in terminal prints info? 16:56:16 <adikt> yeah.. same problem.. when i go into the jazz jukebox it just scrolls all the tracks in the file 16:56:44 <nielsm> okay so it does find the music 16:56:56 <nielsm> then it exists with the correct filenames 16:57:04 <nielsm> the problem is with timidity 16:57:26 <adikt> k@c6re:~$ timidity 16:57:26 <adikt> TiMidity++ version 2.13.2 -- MIDI to WAVE converter and player 16:57:33 <nielsm> hm 16:57:39 <adikt> plus a page of other stuff 16:57:55 <nielsm> can you try running openttd from a console with driver debug enabled? 16:58:05 <nielsm> # openttd -ddriver=1 16:58:21 <nielsm> it should show which music driver it selects and what it does 16:59:09 <adikt> dbg: [driver] extmidi: set volume not implemented 16:59:17 <adikt> everything else successful 16:59:30 <milek7> some soundfont installed is required too 16:59:33 <adikt> dbg: [driver] extmidi: set volume not implemented 16:59:45 <adikt> whoops... 16:59:46 <adikt> dbg: [driver] Successfully probed video driver 'sdl' 16:59:46 <adikt> dbg: [driver] Successfully probed sound driver 'sdl' 16:59:46 <adikt> dbg: [driver] Successfully probed music driver 'extmidi' 17:00:03 *** Lejving_ has joined #openttd 17:01:15 <adikt> i think i just found the solution on the google... https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/OpenTTD 17:01:41 <adikt> you lead me to the solution i think... thank you! 17:03:25 *** Progman has joined #openttd 17:05:45 *** Lejving has quit IRC 17:07:22 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 17:10:42 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 17:12:13 <nielsm> midi was more foolproof when all you had to do was plug the MPU-401 card into an ISA slot, hook up the synthesizer, and software could write to port 330 and it just worked 17:12:42 <Wolf01> :D 17:12:49 <Wolf01> Good old times 17:13:51 <nielsm> (I never had an MPU-401, and only got a roland GM module recently) 17:14:39 <nielsm> also who let them turn the outside heating back on, I didn't ask for a second summer 17:19:40 *** sim-al2 has quit IRC 17:26:38 *** Thedarkb-X40 has quit IRC 17:49:59 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 17:51:56 *** Mapminik has joined #openttd 17:52:03 *** Mapminik is now known as Etua 17:55:07 *** Etua has quit IRC 17:57:06 *** glx has joined #openttd 17:57:07 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 18:11:55 *** Wormnest_ has quit IRC 18:13:31 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 18:44:06 *** arikover has joined #openttd 18:46:18 *** Progman has quit IRC 19:13:15 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... it was fine until i hit 70k inhabitants, now i'm facing complete gridlock all of a sudden :/ 19:17:16 <SpComb^> C:S? 19:17:22 <glx> looks like it 19:23:28 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 19:30:14 *** spnda has quit IRC 19:49:35 <Eddi|zuHause> yes 20:06:22 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 20:17:09 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 20:23:35 <Samu> heh, my pathfinder got stuck in a road depot 20:26:53 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 20:33:09 <Samu> ah no, not stuck 20:33:35 <Samu> it just timed out on the retry 20:39:23 <Samu> these desert towns are really hard 20:39:34 <Samu> most populous town only 734 21:28:23 *** gelignite has quit IRC 21:33:25 <Samu> experimenting a less all or nothing approach when selectively removing negative profit vehicles 21:34:05 <Samu> this may be a bad idea, but just wanted to experiment 21:35:01 *** arikover has quit IRC 21:35:03 <Samu> now it removes 1 by 1, with an interval of 30 days between each removal 21:35:49 <nielsm> okay now I have a new music-related project, I need to get the MT-32/LAPC-1 music from TTO working somehow 21:37:05 <nielsm> for reasons I haven't figured out yet, it doesn't work in dosbox, it just doesn't output any midi data at all to the (emulated) mpu-401 so nothing ever gets played 21:37:51 <nielsm> but it has a unique set of music files and it even has a patchset file, so it's definitely a separate arrangement of the music 21:43:32 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 21:51:49 *** Etua has joined #openttd 21:55:39 *** supermop_work has quit IRC 21:55:44 *** supermop_work has joined #openttd 21:55:58 *** supermop_work has joined #openttd 21:57:41 <Samu> I just had an awesome weird idea 21:58:28 <Samu> have the pathfinder prioritize loading bays stations when the vehicle is wanting to full load from it 21:58:37 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 21:58:52 <Samu> if there's drivethrough and loading bays as part of the same station 22:17:16 *** Thedarkb-X40 has joined #openttd 22:24:05 *** sim-al2 has quit IRC 22:33:46 <nielsm> oh... duh 22:34:12 <nielsm> obviously the roland.cat file containing the actual music data was missing in this copy of tto I was testing with 22:34:31 <glx> that may explain why it didn't work :) 22:34:43 <nielsm> and it sound cool 22:36:06 *** Samu has quit IRC 22:38:13 <nielsm> but ugh, the synth I have isn't quite an MT-32 and this specific one (RA-50) does not implement the "all notes off" command 22:38:33 <nielsm> and the driver expects that to work 22:38:34 <nielsm> D: 22:39:00 <nielsm> I'll have to find a dosbox version that catches that command and sends individual note-off instead 22:39:50 <nielsm> (that feature/workaround exists for the softmpu driver for emulating a full mpu-401 on real hardware that does not have a real mpu-401) 22:42:55 *** Etua has quit IRC 22:43:15 *** Etua has joined #openttd 23:21:18 *** nielsm has quit IRC 23:29:17 *** Etua has quit IRC 23:34:03 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd