Log for #openttd on 15th November 2019:
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00:03:26  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 approved pull request #7819: Fix #7606: Game crash when trying to clean up a crashed script
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04:29:16  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Montandalar commented on issue #7831: Crash on placing vehicle in group that used to contain 1 vehicle
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10:28:19  <peter1138>
10:28:46  <peter1138> Hmm... bit expensive for a commuter bike, but nice features (hub dynamo, hub gears and belt-drive)
10:28:54  <peter1138> Lack of drop-bars though :/
10:29:12  <peter1138> Also black is not great.
11:11:08  <LordAro> ooh, belt drive
11:11:12  <LordAro> bit weird
11:11:49  <peter1138> A little.
11:12:20  <LordAro> wheels look weirdly big on that frame too
11:12:26  <LordAro> might just be the size in the picture
11:12:36  <peter1138> It's 55mm tyres, also weird.
11:12:55  <peter1138> The Travel SL model has more normal 37mm tyres, and slightly better kit.
11:13:01  <LordAro> 55?!
11:13:03  <peter1138> But, uh...
11:13:04  <peter1138> Yeah
11:13:19  * LordAro checks against a ruler
11:13:24  <LordAro> oh, that's not actually that huge
11:13:29  <LordAro> just huge for a road bike
11:13:30  <peter1138> It is
11:13:35  <peter1138> Yeah
11:14:00  <peter1138> I suspect I want a steel tourer with proper drop-bars.
11:14:21  <peter1138> But last time I specced that out it came to nearer 2k
11:14:46  <LordAro> would last forever though
11:14:51  <peter1138> I kinda also want something cheap for commuting, as it'll get wrecked.
11:15:00  <peter1138> Yeah, steel is nicer than alu, apart from rust.
11:15:24  <LordAro> clearly should get titanium
11:15:26  <peter1138> I want cheap, but I also want dynamo & disc brakes, so... meh, not really possible.
11:15:27  <LordAro> for a commuter
11:15:29  <peter1138> Nah, way too much.
11:15:33  <LordAro> :p
11:15:37  <peter1138> Also frame sizes are limited unless you go full custom.
11:15:56  <peter1138> One reason I seem to end up with Cube bikes is they are relatively cheap and cater for tall people.
11:16:11  <peter1138> Although my MTB is a Marin, hmm.
11:16:16  <peter1138> My broken MTB is a Cube.
11:16:23  <peter1138> Never did that fixed :(
11:18:15  * LordAro is progressing nicely towards getting a shiny new Mason
11:18:35  <LordAro> by which i'm moving in 2 weeks time to a place that has space! (by means of a garage)
11:18:43  <LordAro> by which i mean*
11:18:52  <peter1138> Heh
13:07:46  <Samu> hi
13:20:30  <Arveen> lunch ?
13:38:43  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] James103 commented on issue #7088: Crash when viewing AI textfile and switching to Random AI
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13:39:52  <LordAro> Arveen: post-lunch snack
13:51:46  <peter1138> Oh, yes, it was lunch.
13:51:57  <Samu> i made a fix for that
13:52:28  <peter1138> Me too, I had a packed lunch and I ate it.
13:56:09  <Samu>
13:56:46  <Samu> it's stale
13:57:00  <Samu> nobody reviewed it
13:57:37  <Samu> there's an early review
13:57:42  <Samu> outdated
14:04:12  <LordAro> Samu: no point pinging for review after its been closed
14:04:21  <LordAro> but i think you're right, it does need another look
14:04:29  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro reopened pull request #7094: Fix #7088: Retrieve an appropriate name for a non-existant AI/GS when displaying a textfile
14:04:41  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro dismissed a review for pull request #7094: Fix #7088: Retrieve an appropriate name for a non-existant AI/GS when displaying a textfile
14:04:58  <LordAro> Samu: can you rebase it and check everything still works?
14:05:32  <Samu> ok
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14:15:41  <Samu> my computer is slow, because for some reason it's only using 8 GB of RAM of 16 GB installed, what happened
14:19:47  <Samu> god damn it's so slow, what a difference 8 gb to 16 it makes
14:22:20  <LordAro> try closing chrome
14:23:19  <Samu> got 8 GB reserved to hardware, for some weird reason, wtf
14:32:17  <Samu> it works
14:32:19  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] SamuXarick updated pull request #7094: Fix #7088: Retrieve an appropriate name for a non-existant AI/GS when displaying a textfile
14:32:33  <Samu> jesus something that could have been done in 5 minutes, took me 25
14:32:45  <Samu> brb, gonna try re-seat the memory modules
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14:33:55  <Arveen> reseating will not change this in my experience
14:34:53  <Arveen> meanwhile i'm still pondering if i should upgrade from 16 to 32 or 64 🤔
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14:43:59  <Samu> back to 16 gb
14:44:20  <Arveen> interesting
14:49:33  <peter1138> I have to say, going from 32GB to 64GB didn't gain me too much, though I have seen usage > 40GB...
14:50:35  <Arveen> you doing 4x16 or 2x32 ?
14:50:43  <peter1138> 4x16
14:52:37  <peter1138> I already had 2x16.
14:54:36  <Arveen> memory is pretty cheap right now
14:54:59  <Arveen> that's why i'm thinking about just getting 64 right away
14:55:01  <peter1138> Yes, that's why I added more.
14:55:07  <Arveen> even i don't really need it currently
14:55:17  <peter1138> It's actually come down a bit since I did but not massively.
14:55:46  <Samu> what i really need is an SSD
14:56:00  <Arveen> i will probably wait and grab an 3950X CPU and 64 GB of memory once it's available, heh
14:57:17  <Arveen> where do you life Samu ? I got 10+ unused SSDs laying around at home
14:57:20  <Samu> I want a 1 TB SSD for a max of €100
14:57:39  <Samu> portugal
14:57:52  <Arveen> well that's a bit far for a pick up, heh
14:57:58  <peter1138> That's a bit small.
14:58:06  <peter1138> I already have 2 x 2TB ;-)
14:58:11  <Samu> im poor
14:58:28  <Samu> so poor im still using HDD
14:58:42  <peter1138> Eww
14:58:51  <peter1138> I have some HDDs too, but...
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15:04:56  <Arveen> welp, time to go home from work :D
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15:05:01  <Samu> path of exile eats ram, i just noticed
15:05:10  <Arveen> yes it does, heh
15:05:24  <Arveen> watching ExileCon tonight ?
15:05:30  <Samu> it's constantly pre-loading assets in the background
15:05:38  <Samu> i don't think so
15:05:46  <Samu> i rather be playing or so
15:22:20  <Samu> peter, what's your cpu
15:28:20  <Samu>
15:28:28  <Samu> benchmark road vehicle ticks
15:31:46  <Samu> FX-8150 - 64.20 ms
15:33:49  <Samu> Ryzen 5 3600 - 20.75 ms
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16:54:23  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Hexus-One commented on pull request #7607: Feature Request/WIP: Rail Planner track builder
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18:30:01  <andythenorth> yo
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18:33:24  <Arveen> yO to you too sir
18:41:25  <LordAro> y0
18:42:45  <Samu> aww no one benchmarks that savegame
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19:16:16  <andythenorth> peter1138: that cube :)
19:56:42  <glx> #7835 needs a review
20:06:13  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh merged pull request #7819: Fix #7606: Game crash when trying to clean up a crashed script
20:06:14  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh closed issue #7606: Crash during run AI manually
20:12:17  <peter1138> andythenorth, hmm? Good? Bad?
20:12:27  <andythenorth> practical
20:12:35  <peter1138> Yeah.
20:12:42  <andythenorth> I had a matt black Marin for a long time
20:12:46  <andythenorth> matte *
20:12:50  <peter1138> I've been using a backpack for too long.
20:12:58  <peter1138> My road bike is a cube, also matt black.
20:13:09  <andythenorth> until I went electrical, I had the boring Scott aluminium hybrid
20:13:18  <andythenorth> which was boring, but never went wrong
20:13:19  <peter1138> Has mudguards designed for it too, but one broke, so now it has a clip-on that wobbles...
20:13:30  <andythenorth> I had the disc pads changed once, nothing else ever needed work
20:13:37  <peter1138> But, yeah, Ultegra group set is not practical for commuting, it EATS chains.
20:14:02  <andythenorth> my electrical go faster bike has an enclosed chain
20:14:11  <andythenorth> not a belt, but still avoids most of the hassle
20:14:27  <peter1138> Mmm
20:16:06  <peter1138> Okay, Lidl's "Plunged Orange" Pale Ale is rather nice.
20:16:22  <peter1138> Sadly I only had one can :(
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20:18:14  <peter1138> If that bike had drop-bars I would just get it. Hmm.
20:18:40  <peter1138> But IIRC the geometry needs to be different for flat vs drop bars.
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20:20:17  <peter1138> Time for a Big Clive video.
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21:50:36  <andythenorth> so when do we fork the newgrf spec for jgrpp?
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