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07:00:52  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Eddi-z commented on pull request #7000: Some NewGRF variables concerning railtypes
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08:57:19  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] JMcKiern commented on pull request #7981: Feature #7735: Implement protocol handling
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11:58:57  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] julianaito opened pull request #7996: OpenBSD: fix endianness detection
12:02:40  <LordAro> "...reported to me that OpenTTD colors are off on OpenBSD/macppc (32-bit powerpc)."
12:02:51  <LordAro> surely there's not more than one user
12:06:24  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro commented on pull request #7996: OpenBSD: fix endianness detection
12:14:19  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] julianaito updated pull request #7996: OpenBSD: fix endianness detection
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12:16:52  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] julianaito commented on pull request #7996: OpenBSD: fix endianness detection
12:28:50  <planetmaker> might be a LE / BE issue with colours
12:29:26  <planetmaker> oh... links say so even :D
12:31:08  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] planetmaker approved pull request #7996: OpenBSD: fix endianness detection
12:35:52  <FLHerne> LordAro: It's not so long since I had PPC hardware
12:36:06  <FLHerne> (well, I still have a couple, but not operating)
12:37:46  <FLHerne> > I'm planning to run OTTD on my PowerBook 1400, it's compiling at the moment. The problem is that with only 64MB of RAM and a 133MHz CPU, performance is likely to be an issue.
12:37:55  <FLHerne> ^ was one of my first tt-forums posts :D
12:38:00  <FLHerne> It worked, too
12:38:31  <FLHerne> I had to disable savegame compression or something though
12:38:46  <LordAro> heh
12:40:42  <planetmaker> After I approved, I wondered whether the commit message should read Fix: "[OpenBSD] Check for little/big endian"
12:41:03  <planetmaker> eh... quote before Fix
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13:01:52  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro merged pull request #7996: OpenBSD: fix endianness detection
13:02:09  <LordAro> planetmaker: possibly, not a huge concern
13:02:27  <LordAro> and i didn't notice your message before i clicked merge :p
13:07:05  <planetmaker> definitely not a huge concern
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14:16:37  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 commented on pull request #7996: OpenBSD: fix endianness detection
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18:45:13  <andythenorth> o/
18:45:17  <Markk> \o
18:55:05  <andythenorth>
18:55:23  <andythenorth> anyone got any ideas what nml should do for PatchFlag 80?
19:01:18  <Eddi|zuHause> <nielsm> the right thing would be to add some kind of newgrf feature labels you can query for <-- that exists, kinda, in the form of ttdpatch flags?
19:01:46  <Eddi|zuHause> but that sounds like it'll explode in complexity
19:02:09  <Eddi|zuHause> so nobody will use it, and nobody will maintain it
19:02:50  <andythenorth> the patch flags handling is already confusing in nml
19:03:20  <andythenorth> this page references a non-existent var ttdpatch_flags
19:03:58  <Eddi|zuHause> you can't check ttdpatch flags as a var
19:04:31  <Eddi|zuHause> iirc you need a specially crafted action 6/7/9/D or something
19:05:28  <andythenorth> its not something I understand at all
19:05:48  <andythenorth> being one of the most prolific newgrf authors does not qualify me to be the nml maintainer at all :|
19:06:47  <Eddi|zuHause>
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19:15:45  <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: so I think that var in the docs is just a legacy artefact
19:16:29  <andythenorth> suggests it was replaced
19:16:43  <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: it certainly deserves a comment
19:16:45  <andythenorth> also
19:18:38  <Montana_> hi, i just have compiled the release candidate and i received some warning. I suppose you are aware, but just in case...
19:19:02  <Montana_> console_cmds.cpp:532:131: warning: format â%dâ expects argument of type âintâ, but argument 3 has type âsize_t {aka long unsigned int}â [-Wformat=]    IConsolePrintF(CC_ERROR, "ERROR: Maximum kick message length is 254 characters. You entered %d characters.", kick_message_length);
19:19:16  <Eddi|zuHause> Montana_: don't assume awareness
19:19:31  <Montana_> Ah ok
19:19:35  <Eddi|zuHause> Montana_: knowing compiler/platform might help
19:19:58  <Montana_> Ubuntu 18.04
19:20:19  <Eddi|zuHause> that's neither a compiler nor a platform
19:21:48  <LordAro> Montana_: known problem, you can safely ignore
19:22:06  <LordAro> already been fixed in trunk, will be fized for rc2
19:22:47  <Montana_> Ah ok
19:23:46  <andythenorth> what are the patch flags intended for?
19:25:05  <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: a mixture of "is this feature implemented yet" and "is this setting enabled"
19:26:12  <Montana_> By the way, one more thing. I applied for translator yesterday, sending an email to requesting permision for a language, but access is still denied. What else must i do for applying for translator?
19:26:33  <Eddi|zuHause> like the dbsetxl 0.82 ("current") checks whether wagonspeedlimits is enabled, and adds more freight wagons with different speed limits.
19:28:11  <andythenorth> is it a requirement to provide all patch flags in nml?
19:28:37  <Eddi|zuHause> rule number one of compiler construction: "don't question the specs"
19:29:02  <Eddi|zuHause> if the specs say it exists, you must implement it.
19:29:05  <andythenorth> i.e. yes
19:30:49  <andythenorth> appears to be currently implemented with config_flags
19:31:01  <andythenorth> afaict it was re-implemented several times in 2010/2011
19:31:48  <andythenorth> also that list is very incomplete vs
19:32:08  <andythenorth> so is the issue 'flag 80 is not provided' or 'nml hasn't implemented all ttd patch flags'
19:33:18  <andythenorth> the implementation looks trivial afaict
19:33:28  <andythenorth> the documentation is far harder
19:34:26  <Eddi|zuHause> i'm going to assume the current nmlc implementation essentially skipped all the ones that are hardcoded in openttd?
19:35:12  <andythenorth> seems a fair assumption
19:35:17  <andythenorth> 2010 is a long time ago and yexo is long gone
19:36:35  <andythenorth> this suggests that all the flags were added
19:36:55  <andythenorth> but those no longer exist in nml master afaict
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19:37:38  <Eddi|zuHause> they probably got removed with the ttdpatch_flags "variable" that couldn't really be used as a variable anyway
19:38:05  <Eddi|zuHause> and not all of them were added with the "new" method because of namespace pollution?
19:38:20  <andythenorth> it would make sense
19:41:07  <LordAro> Montana_: more waiting :)
19:42:19  <Montana_> Ok! Thanks! :D
19:51:24  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/nml] andythenorth opened pull request #81: Change: add TTDPatchFlag 0x80
19:56:58  <andythenorth> this looks quite wrong
19:57:12  <andythenorth> ( in combination with l198)
19:57:53  <andythenorth> how is that supposed to work?
20:00:24  <Eddi|zuHause> another one of those "we duplicated it just for show, it's actually the same thing"'?
20:02:57  <andythenorth> yes
20:03:07  <andythenorth> it looks very wrong
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20:12:29  <andythenorth> time for an OpenTTD break, all I've done is fuck things up
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20:19:49  <Wolf01> So... book of demons looks great
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21:20:08  <Samu> hi
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23:51:50  <FLHerne> Montana_: Specifically, nag planetmaker to read his emails, IIRC ;-)

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