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The problem is that with only 64MB of RAM and a 133MHz CPU, performance is likely to be an issue. 12:37:55 <FLHerne> ^ was one of my first tt-forums posts :D 12:38:00 <FLHerne> It worked, too 12:38:31 <FLHerne> I had to disable savegame compression or something though 12:38:46 <LordAro> heh 12:40:42 <planetmaker> After I approved, I wondered whether the commit message should read Fix: "[OpenBSD] Check for little/big endian" 12:41:03 <planetmaker> eh... quote before Fix 12:45:56 *** Etua has quit IRC 12:53:13 *** Etua has joined #openttd 13:01:52 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro merged pull request #7996: OpenBSD: fix endianness detection https://git.io/JvClv 13:02:09 <LordAro> planetmaker: possibly, not a huge concern 13:02:27 <LordAro> and i didn't notice your message before i clicked merge :p 13:07:05 <planetmaker> definitely not a huge concern 13:18:21 *** Etua has quit IRC 13:19:53 *** snail_UES_ has joined #openttd 13:24:39 *** Etua has joined #openttd 13:35:47 *** snail_UES_ has quit IRC 13:38:48 *** Flygon has quit IRC 13:46:38 *** spnda has joined #openttd 14:10:36 *** Etua has quit IRC 14:13:32 *** Etua has joined #openttd 14:16:37 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 commented on pull request #7996: OpenBSD: fix endianness detection https://git.io/JvCBp 14:42:47 *** nielsm has joined #openttd 15:17:37 *** Speedy` has joined #openttd 15:36:57 *** rubenwardy has quit IRC 15:37:50 *** rubenwardy has joined #openttd 15:56:44 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 16:26:43 *** Etua has quit IRC 16:51:39 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 17:09:37 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 17:09:38 *** cHawk has quit IRC 17:29:43 *** Progman has joined #openttd 18:21:18 *** Samu has joined #openttd 18:23:50 *** Samu has quit IRC 18:43:43 *** glx has joined #openttd 18:43:43 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 18:44:34 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 18:45:13 <andythenorth> o/ 18:45:17 <Markk> \o 18:55:05 <andythenorth> https://wiki.openttd.org/NewGRF_Specification_Status#OpenTTD_1.9 18:55:23 <andythenorth> anyone got any ideas what nml should do for PatchFlag 80? 19:01:18 <Eddi|zuHause> <nielsm> the right thing would be to add some kind of newgrf feature labels you can query for <-- that exists, kinda, in the form of ttdpatch flags? 19:01:46 <Eddi|zuHause> but that sounds like it'll explode in complexity 19:02:09 <Eddi|zuHause> so nobody will use it, and nobody will maintain it 19:02:50 <andythenorth> the patch flags handling is already confusing in nml 19:03:20 <andythenorth> this page references a non-existent var ttdpatch_flags https://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/NML:General 19:03:58 <Eddi|zuHause> you can't check ttdpatch flags as a var 19:04:31 <Eddi|zuHause> iirc you need a specially crafted action 6/7/9/D or something 19:05:28 <andythenorth> its not something I understand at all 19:05:48 <andythenorth> being one of the most prolific newgrf authors does not qualify me to be the nml maintainer at all :| 19:06:47 <Eddi|zuHause> https://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/ReadingPatchVariables 19:07:15 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 19:08:41 <Eddi|zuHause> https://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/TTDPatchFlags 19:11:50 *** Montana_ has joined #openttd 19:15:45 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: so I think that var in the docs is just a legacy artefact 19:16:29 <andythenorth> https://github.com/OpenTTD/nml/commit/dad3901ace153d9d7a6d00ffb9a07d90fb167e74 suggests it was replaced 19:16:43 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: it certainly deserves a comment 19:16:45 <andythenorth> also https://github.com/OpenTTD/nml/commit/7baf01a774ee65b1a9ca087722819351d226b6bd https://github.com/OpenTTD/nml/commit/94b063341b054c7d1a166a8633010d3c24720e1d https://github.com/OpenTTD/nml/commit/b47787389840a6d1991496278b1ddaff72615b12 19:18:38 <Montana_> hi, i just have compiled the release candidate and i received some warning. I suppose you are aware, but just in case... 19:19:02 <Montana_> console_cmds.cpp:532:131: warning: format â%dâ expects argument of type âintâ, but argument 3 has type âsize_t {aka long unsigned int}â [-Wformat=] IConsolePrintF(CC_ERROR, "ERROR: Maximum kick message length is 254 characters. You entered %d characters.", kick_message_length); 19:19:16 <Eddi|zuHause> Montana_: don't assume awareness 19:19:31 <Montana_> Ah ok 19:19:35 <Eddi|zuHause> Montana_: knowing compiler/platform might help 19:19:58 <Montana_> Ubuntu 18.04 19:20:19 <Eddi|zuHause> that's neither a compiler nor a platform 19:21:48 <LordAro> Montana_: known problem, you can safely ignore 19:22:06 <LordAro> already been fixed in trunk, will be fized for rc2 19:22:47 <Montana_> Ah ok 19:23:46 <andythenorth> what are the patch flags intended for? 19:25:05 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: a mixture of "is this feature implemented yet" and "is this setting enabled" 19:26:12 <Montana_> By the way, one more thing. I applied for translator yesterday, sending an email to translator@openttd.org requesting permision for a language, but access is still denied. What else must i do for applying for translator? 19:26:33 <Eddi|zuHause> like the dbsetxl 0.82 ("current") checks whether wagonspeedlimits is enabled, and adds more freight wagons with different speed limits. 19:28:11 <andythenorth> is it a requirement to provide all patch flags in nml? 19:28:37 <Eddi|zuHause> rule number one of compiler construction: "don't question the specs" 19:29:02 <Eddi|zuHause> if the specs say it exists, you must implement it. 19:29:05 <andythenorth> i.e. yes 19:30:49 <andythenorth> appears to be currently implemented with config_flags https://github.com/OpenTTD/nml/blob/master/nml/global_constants.py#L1175 19:31:01 <andythenorth> afaict it was re-implemented several times in 2010/2011 19:31:48 <andythenorth> also that list is very incomplete vs https://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/TTDPatchFlags 19:32:08 <andythenorth> so is the issue 'flag 80 is not provided' or 'nml hasn't implemented all ttd patch flags' 19:33:18 <andythenorth> the implementation looks trivial afaict 19:33:28 <andythenorth> the documentation is far harder 19:34:26 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm going to assume the current nmlc implementation essentially skipped all the ones that are hardcoded in openttd? 19:35:12 <andythenorth> seems a fair assumption 19:35:17 <andythenorth> 2010 is a long time ago and yexo is long gone 19:36:35 <andythenorth> this suggests that all the flags were added https://github.com/OpenTTD/nml/commit/dad3901ace153d9d7a6d00ffb9a07d90fb167e74 19:36:55 <andythenorth> but those no longer exist in nml master afaict 19:37:21 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 19:37:38 <Eddi|zuHause> they probably got removed with the ttdpatch_flags "variable" that couldn't really be used as a variable anyway 19:38:05 <Eddi|zuHause> and not all of them were added with the "new" method because of namespace pollution? 19:38:20 <andythenorth> it would make sense 19:41:07 <LordAro> Montana_: more waiting :) 19:42:19 <Montana_> Ok! Thanks! :D 19:51:24 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/nml] andythenorth opened pull request #81: Change: add TTDPatchFlag 0x80 https://git.io/JvCoh 19:56:58 <andythenorth> this looks quite wrong https://github.com/OpenTTD/nml/blob/master/nml/actions/action2var_variables.py#L197 19:57:12 <andythenorth> ( in combination with l198) 19:57:53 <andythenorth> how is that supposed to work? 20:00:24 <Eddi|zuHause> another one of those "we duplicated it just for show, it's actually the same thing"'? 20:02:57 <andythenorth> yes 20:03:07 <andythenorth> it looks very wrong 20:06:39 * andythenorth regrets things 20:10:25 *** cHawk has joined #openttd 20:12:29 <andythenorth> time for an OpenTTD break, all I've done is fuck things up 20:12:30 *** andythenorth has left #openttd 20:19:49 <Wolf01> So... book of demons looks great 20:34:21 *** spnda has quit IRC 20:42:22 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 20:44:40 *** Etua has joined #openttd 20:45:19 *** Etua has joined #openttd 20:48:48 *** cHawk has quit IRC 20:52:07 *** Samu has joined #openttd 20:52:30 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 21:19:14 *** mindlesstux[m] has left #openttd 21:20:08 <Samu> hi 21:20:50 *** gelignite_ has joined #openttd 21:27:19 *** gelignite has quit IRC 21:47:10 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 22:00:08 *** gelignite_ has quit IRC 22:23:17 *** Etua has joined #openttd 22:25:08 *** Samu has quit IRC 22:37:58 *** adikt has quit IRC 22:45:08 *** adikt has joined #openttd 22:46:22 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 23:02:51 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 23:03:09 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 23:06:52 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 23:15:40 *** Progman has quit IRC 23:39:34 *** dihedral has quit IRC 23:45:37 *** Etua has quit IRC 23:51:50 <FLHerne> Montana_: Specifically, nag planetmaker to read his emails, IIRC ;-)