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00:24:16 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 00:30:31 *** cHawk has quit IRC 00:30:40 *** cHawk has joined #openttd 00:33:07 *** cHawk has quit IRC 00:53:02 *** arikover has quit IRC 00:53:13 *** tokai|noir has joined #openttd 00:53:13 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai|noir 01:00:10 *** tokai has quit IRC 02:03:58 *** tokai has joined #openttd 02:03:58 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai 02:11:14 *** tokai|noir has quit IRC 02:27:07 *** D-HUND has joined #openttd 02:30:28 *** debdog has quit IRC 02:58:24 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 03:01:39 *** glx has quit IRC 04:33:54 *** Compu has joined #openttd 05:22:17 *** nielsm has joined #openttd 06:19:31 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 06:32:51 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 06:48:47 *** jottyfan has joined #openttd 06:54:21 *** jottyfan has quit IRC 07:05:36 *** Progman has joined #openttd 07:12:29 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] andythenorth commented on issue #6207: Autorenew fails for articulated vehicles with mixed cargo https://git.io/fh3Dt 07:12:30 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] andythenorth reopened issue #6207: Autorenew fails for articulated vehicles with mixed cargo https://git.io/fh3Dt 07:18:13 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 07:22:02 *** Wolf01 is now known as Guest3233 07:22:04 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 07:28:13 *** Guest3233 has quit IRC 07:41:30 *** snail_UES_ has quit IRC 07:42:05 *** longtomjr_ has joined #openttd 07:48:36 *** matt21347 has joined #openttd 07:57:28 *** tokai|noir has joined #openttd 07:57:28 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai|noir 08:04:23 *** tokai has quit IRC 08:08:45 *** longtomjr_ has quit IRC 08:32:49 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 08:41:29 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 08:50:12 <andythenorth> well 08:52:27 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] andythenorth commented on pull request #8278: Feature: tiles/day velocity unit https://git.io/JTTmo 09:02:52 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 09:13:55 <TrueBrain> don't be sane andythenorth :P 09:19:31 <andythenorth> sorry 09:20:06 <TrueBrain> I forgive you 10:11:56 *** tokai has joined #openttd 10:11:56 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai 10:18:55 *** tokai|noir has quit IRC 10:24:44 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Eddi-z commented on pull request #8278: Feature: tiles/day velocity unit https://git.io/JTTcf 10:29:20 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 10:52:27 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] donno2048 opened issue #8327: Automatically create folder https://git.io/JTTWc 11:13:19 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Eddi-z commented on issue #8327: Automatically create folder https://git.io/JTTWc 11:20:24 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Eddi-z commented on issue #8327: Automatically create folder https://git.io/JTTWc 11:30:17 <Eddi|zuHause> ... was i out of line? 11:30:33 <Eddi|zuHause> i haven't interacted with a lot of people lately 11:35:03 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] donno2048 commented on issue #8327: Automatically create folder https://git.io/JTTWc 11:35:03 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] donno2048 closed issue #8327: Automatically create folder https://git.io/JTTWc 11:42:01 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause you forgot the smiley 11:42:09 <andythenorth> github is not great for emoticons 11:43:06 <andythenorth> frosch123 any opinion on this https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/6207#issuecomment-706661590 (except maybe 'leave me alone, I retired')? 11:44:59 *** jottyfan has joined #openttd 11:48:11 <frosch123> andythenorth: yep, wiki migration is more interestnig 11:50:50 <andythenorth> I have designed out the problem for now :) 11:50:58 <andythenorth> only one of this vehicle type 11:56:46 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Eddi-z commented on issue #6207: Autorenew fails for articulated vehicles with mixed cargo https://git.io/fh3Dt 12:02:02 <andythenorth> could a vehicle be marked up as 'ineligible for auto-replace'? 12:02:12 <andythenorth> is that just more newgrf string? 12:02:48 <andythenorth> maybe we could move / copy the IsArticulatedVehicleCarryingDifferentCargoes check to wherever the valid replacements list is built? 12:03:30 * andythenorth wonders where that is 12:06:44 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: no, i don't think that works. because the default configuration might be to carry all the same cargos, but then it is changed later by manual refitting 12:07:09 <andythenorth> ok 12:07:18 <andythenorth> I'm not so minded to try and make it work 12:07:23 <andythenorth> as to not silently fail 12:08:13 <andythenorth> that's why I think explicitly banning it in newgrf isn't an implausible solution 12:08:20 <andythenorth> although it does seem like a bad pattern 12:08:32 <Eddi|zuHause> i think there was a message for failed autoreplace, but it wasn't very helpful on giving a reason. and it is lumped with other vehicle info messages which people would probably disable because of spam 12:10:00 <andythenorth> interestingly I can't replace from mail+pax articulated vehicle to non-articulated pax vehicle 12:10:10 <andythenorth> or any other vehicle 12:10:33 <andythenorth> we could enforce that only one refit is possible in an articulated vehicle? 12:11:15 <Eddi|zuHause> no 12:11:36 <Eddi|zuHause> because we can't retroactively invalidate existing newgrfs 12:12:06 <Eddi|zuHause> just because it conflicts with some obscure unrelated game mechanic 12:13:06 *** glx has joined #openttd 12:13:07 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 12:13:09 <andythenorth> could just say nml doesn't permit it? 12:13:14 <andythenorth> and enforce it on compile? 12:13:44 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't think nml has that kind of analysis capacity 12:14:50 <andythenorth> so was I correct when I closed the ticket as 'not supported'? :) 12:17:19 <glx> I guess it's about #6207 12:17:46 <andythenorth> yair 12:19:19 <glx> couldn't the line you linked return CT_NO_REFIT ? 12:20:26 <glx> (I didn't really check the code) 12:24:19 <glx> hmm no I'm wrong 12:25:37 <andythenorth> could just put a note in buy menu 12:25:41 <andythenorth> 'broken with autoreplace' 12:38:34 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: can you come up with a way to notify people which doesn't drown the player in repeated messages? 12:39:18 <Eddi|zuHause> ... assuming the player sends 200 vehicles to replace, and the check runs on every attempted refit 12:41:41 <glx> the best place to warn is probably when setting the replacement of an articulated engine ("this replacement may fail...") 12:42:18 <Eddi|zuHause> glx: i'm not sure we know enough at that moment 12:45:22 <glx> we now if the engine can carry different cargo by default, and the replacement can happen only if it has been refited to carry only one type 12:48:42 <Eddi|zuHause> trying to detect the situations that might fail sounds equally problematic than trying to pick a reasonable "best effort" resolution 12:57:26 *** iSoSyS has joined #openttd 12:59:57 <andythenorth> I am -1 to messages tbh 13:00:52 <andythenorth> I would favour banning these vehicles from autoreplace 13:01:03 <andythenorth> but I see no way to do that short of attempting a refit when the menu is constructed 13:01:07 <andythenorth> which seems very unwise 13:01:43 <frosch123> cloning works, right? 13:02:27 <frosch123> then autorenew could probably also work 13:02:38 <andythenorth> cloning works 13:03:02 * andythenorth tested 13:03:36 <glx> yeah autorenew is not autoreplace 13:07:10 * andythenorth BBL 13:07:13 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 13:24:24 *** arikover has joined #openttd 14:36:35 *** iSoSyS has quit IRC 15:15:11 *** jottyfan has quit IRC 15:16:44 *** snail_UES_ has joined #openttd 15:32:47 *** Flygon has quit IRC 15:43:00 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 15:46:21 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 15:47:25 *** azubieta has quit IRC 15:49:17 *** azubieta has joined #openttd 15:54:42 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 16:01:23 <andythenorth> ho, how do I fetch a PR from glx if not a remote? 16:01:26 <andythenorth> curl I guess :) 16:01:44 <glx> which PR ? 16:02:37 <andythenorth> https://github.com/glx22/OpenTTD/commit/f513282f77f296459a5a9d4c313f38bbeafa27fc 16:02:49 <andythenorth> it's just a commit, not a PR yet? 16:03:02 <glx> don't, it doesn't really work 16:03:05 <andythenorth> ok 16:03:29 <glx> by luck it's ok for iron horse because they are not refitable 16:03:47 <glx> but I think it will fail for PKP 16:04:31 <andythenorth> I don't see how to do it with refittability 16:04:37 <andythenorth> short of trying the refits 16:04:47 <andythenorth> and then..in what order, for which vehicles... 16:04:53 <andythenorth> and then...does the newgrf allow it? 16:04:59 <glx> probably need to check how clone does it 16:06:06 <glx> unpushed the branch ;) 16:12:50 <andythenorth> :) 16:38:04 <TrueBrain> openttd.org nameservers are now switched to AWS. This should not lead to any issue what-so-ever, but let me know if sites are now all of a sudden unreachable or what-ever :) 17:11:18 <glx> andythenorth: rewrote 17:36:10 *** Gustavo6046 has quit IRC 17:53:44 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] DorpsGek pushed 1 commits to master https://git.io/JTkk0 17:53:44 <DorpsGek_III> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators) 17:58:06 <andythenorth> glx works for simple cases I tested so far :) 18:03:41 <andythenorth> ok that's interesting 18:04:10 <andythenorth> I can replace articulated engine (pax+mail) <-> engine (no capacity) 18:04:38 <andythenorth> can't replace articulated engine (pax+mail) <-> articulated engine (pax+mail) 18:04:41 <andythenorth> intended result? 19:10:22 <glx> It just handles auto renew, auto replace stuff should be unchanged 19:23:59 <andythenorth> k 19:33:02 <glx> <andythenorth> I can replace articulated engine (pax+mail) <-> engine (no capacity) <-- this works because it's tested before articulated check 19:33:24 <glx> and it's untouched in my code :) 19:38:51 <andythenorth> yup, I was testing wrong in trunk 19:38:56 <andythenorth> just verified 19:47:54 <andythenorth> silly andythenorth 19:54:10 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 20:00:33 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 20:06:59 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 20:27:26 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 20:28:11 *** gelignite has quit IRC 20:54:13 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 21:13:22 *** matt21347 has quit IRC 21:19:47 <frosch123> TrueBrain: sending mails from info@ may be broken :) 21:20:19 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 21:24:48 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 21:28:16 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 21:28:53 <frosch123> TrueBrain: yeah, both snmp and imap did not survive the nameserver stuff 21:35:44 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] jostephd updated pull request #8278: Feature: tiles/day velocity unit https://git.io/JJW2w 21:35:49 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] jostephd commented on pull request #8278: Feature: tiles/day velocity unit https://git.io/JTkEu 21:40:22 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 21:42:34 *** Progman has quit IRC 21:56:39 *** nielsm has quit IRC 22:04:23 <TrueBrain> hmm ... not sure what doesn't work for frosch123, as it works for me :P 22:05:07 <TrueBrain> nothing changed DNS-wise on those records .. hmm .. 22:05:14 <TrueBrain> hard to debug with him not here anymore :D 22:06:06 *** Gustavo6046 has joined #openttd 22:07:26 <TrueBrain> both IMAP and SMTP work as expected 22:07:37 <TrueBrain> not sure why he was trying SNMP, that sounds a bit odd :P 22:08:57 <TrueBrain> lol .. I think he has the server-configuration on a domain I expired last week 22:09:04 <TrueBrain> not much to do with the nameserver migration :) 22:10:20 <TrueBrain> frosch123: in case you read the backlog, I guess you are using "devs.openttd.org" as server. That domain retired last week ;) You should be using "secure.openttd.org" for email. Soon that will change again, but we will tackle that when we do :) 22:17:13 <TrueBrain> okay, 6 developers make use of IMAP .. 3 of which are active daily, 1 so-so, and 2 are retired .. should be easy enough to migrate that to a new place :) 22:18:32 <TrueBrain> plenty more receive email on their mailboxes .. but given they never check it, I guess we can close them :) 22:20:30 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 22:20:50 <TrueBrain> well, the logs only go back 1 month .. so there could be, strictly seen, people who only check once every N months :P 22:27:09 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 22:27:56 <glx> I should be in the group of 3 :) 22:28:04 *** arikover has quit IRC 22:29:40 <TrueBrain> you are :) 22:29:44 <TrueBrain> you are my number 1 even :) 22:30:05 <glx> IMAP on the phone and thunderbird 22:30:20 <TrueBrain> 6119 logins in the last 30 days :P 22:36:18 <TrueBrain> right, I think I will create three sets of emails: 1) those that don't have a forward and haven't logged in for 30 days. It will be something along the lines of: in case you read this, contact me. 2) those that do have a forward. Something like: we are migrating to a new server, you don't have to change anything. 3) those that don't have a forward but use IMAP. It will be something like: we are only supporting forwarding emails now, please le 22:36:18 <TrueBrain> know where to forward your emails too. This doesn't hold for info@ btw, that will still be a shared mailbox. Most likely we will reset the password on it, but details :) 22:36:59 <TrueBrain> I just need to figure out who belongs to what group :P 22:37:07 <TrueBrain> something for another day! 22:55:41 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 23:07:55 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 23:08:55 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 23:12:08 *** Gustavo6046 has quit IRC 23:26:32 *** Gustavo6046 has joined #openttd 23:43:19 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC