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00:13:07 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 00:18:46 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/aws-infra] LordAro opened pull request #4: Add: ansible playbook for configuring new caching content servers https://git.io/JkCEU 00:18:51 <LordAro> right, that's me done 01:12:07 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/aws-infra] LordAro updated pull request #4: Add: ansible playbook for configuring new caching content servers https://git.io/JkCEU 01:43:36 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 02:45:32 *** y2kboy23 has quit IRC 02:49:29 *** y2kboy23 has joined #openttd 03:23:15 *** SpComb^ has joined #openttd 03:23:35 *** SpComb has quit IRC 03:34:21 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 03:50:41 *** glx has quit IRC 05:24:04 *** k-man has quit IRC 05:26:06 *** k-man has joined #openttd 05:30:50 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 05:33:07 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 05:53:26 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 05:53:28 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 06:48:21 *** Mek has quit IRC 06:49:22 *** Mek has joined #openttd 07:02:47 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 07:05:19 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 07:05:54 *** longtomjr has joined #openttd 07:33:01 *** nielsm has joined #openttd 07:45:52 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/aws-infra] TrueBrain requested changes for pull request #4: Add: ansible playbook for configuring new caching content servers https://git.io/JkWL9 07:46:53 <TrueBrain> sorry for the amount of comments LordAro , but I couldn't see if you simply forgot about requests (which is perfectly ok of course) or that you were still working on them :) So I just wrote everything down I am still missing :) 07:51:48 <TrueBrain> 502 Bad Gateway :( Sad panda ... 07:58:10 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/aws-infra] TrueBrain commented on pull request #4: Add: ansible playbook for configuring new caching content servers https://git.io/JkWqJ 08:08:13 <andythenorth> such wow 08:08:55 <andythenorth> very github 08:19:13 *** heffer has quit IRC 08:19:13 *** Laedek has quit IRC 08:19:13 *** TrueBrain has quit IRC 08:19:13 *** grossing has quit IRC 08:19:13 *** igor[m] has quit IRC 08:19:13 *** natmac[m] has quit IRC 08:19:13 *** josef[m] has quit IRC 08:19:13 *** udo[m] has quit IRC 08:19:13 *** mindlesstux has quit IRC 08:19:13 *** innocenat_ has quit IRC 08:19:13 *** Extrems has quit IRC 08:19:13 *** Ttech has quit IRC 08:19:13 *** murr4y has quit IRC 08:19:13 *** ST2 has quit IRC 08:19:44 *** TrueBrain has joined #openttd 08:19:44 *** heffer has joined #openttd 08:19:44 *** Laedek has joined #openttd 08:19:44 *** grossing has joined #openttd 08:19:44 *** igor[m] has joined #openttd 08:19:44 *** udo[m] has joined #openttd 08:19:44 *** natmac[m] has joined #openttd 08:19:44 *** josef[m] has joined #openttd 08:19:44 *** mindlesstux has joined #openttd 08:19:44 *** innocenat_ has joined #openttd 08:19:44 *** Extrems has joined #openttd 08:19:44 *** Ttech has joined #openttd 08:19:44 *** ST2 has joined #openttd 08:19:44 *** murr4y has joined #openttd 08:21:01 <longtomjr> netsplit? 08:25:32 <LordAro> TrueBrain: lots of comments :) 08:25:52 <LordAro> not really sure what's causing the 502, gonna have to fo some googling... 08:41:01 <andythenorth> hello 08:42:39 <longtomjr> hi 09:02:17 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 09:02:17 *** y2kboy23 has quit IRC 09:02:17 *** tokai has quit IRC 09:02:17 *** Gustavo6046 has quit IRC 09:02:17 *** nolep[m] has quit IRC 09:02:17 *** jact[m] has quit IRC 09:02:17 *** colde has quit IRC 09:02:34 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 09:02:34 *** y2kboy23 has joined #openttd 09:02:34 *** tokai has joined #openttd 09:02:34 *** Gustavo6046 has joined #openttd 09:02:34 *** nolep[m] has joined #openttd 09:02:34 *** jact[m] has joined #openttd 09:02:34 *** colde has joined #openttd 09:02:34 *** larich.oftc.net sets mode: +v tokai 09:19:02 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 09:25:01 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/aws-infra] LordAro updated pull request #4: Add: ansible playbook for configuring new caching content servers https://git.io/JkCEU 09:25:16 <andythenorth> hmm 09:25:26 <LordAro> TrueBrain: most things addressed 09:25:34 <andythenorth> exposing the various client settings for company colour isn't possible? 09:25:42 <andythenorth> e.g. wagon colour, passenger coach colour etc 09:25:45 <LordAro> i've not rerun it yet because of the 502 thing that still needs fixing 09:25:51 <andythenorth> something something not network safe? 09:25:51 <LordAro> and also i have to do actual work now 09:26:18 <andythenorth> allowing newgrf to make choices based a client setting causes desyncs? 09:26:44 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/aws-infra] LordAro commented on pull request #4: Add: ansible playbook for configuring new caching content servers https://git.io/JkWln 09:27:40 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/aws-infra] LordAro commented on pull request #4: Add: ansible playbook for configuring new caching content servers https://git.io/JkWll 09:28:36 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/aws-infra] LordAro commented on pull request #4: Add: ansible playbook for configuring new caching content servers https://git.io/JkWlz 09:29:31 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/aws-infra] LordAro commented on pull request #4: Add: ansible playbook for configuring new caching content servers https://git.io/JkWlr 09:29:47 <LordAro> right, breakfast 09:34:17 <LordAro> TrueBrain: incidentally, bananas-1 is getting 'hammered' by ssh attacks, much more so than bananas-2 (71 IPs blocked vs 12) 10:04:31 <andythenorth> do we have a SIEM? 10:10:16 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 10:23:46 *** matt21347 has joined #openttd 10:25:52 *** matt21347 has quit IRC 10:26:04 *** matt21347 has joined #openttd 10:28:03 *** tokai|noir has joined #openttd 10:28:03 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai|noir 10:35:04 *** tokai has quit IRC 10:51:34 <andythenorth> "quak" 10:52:05 <frosch123> moo 10:52:48 * andythenorth wonders why company colour var doesn't cause desyncs 10:53:02 <frosch123> why should it? 10:53:42 <andythenorth> isn't it a per-client setting? 10:53:58 <frosch123> no, it's "company colours", not "client colours" 10:56:51 <andythenorth> does that mean we could expose the yak-shaving settings, e.g. wagon colour? 10:57:02 <andythenorth> (as a var) 10:57:32 <frosch123> "could" yes. but i think everyone who tried that concluded that it's a mess that should be deleted instead? 10:58:13 <andythenorth> I like my parameter solution 10:58:28 <andythenorth> but I don't like that it rides totally over the player wagon colour choice 10:58:49 <andythenorth> it's somewhat confusing :P 11:01:31 <frosch123> i think if you use newgrf, you know newgrf settings, and you know detailed company colour settings, you also belong to the minority that can deal with confusion 11:02:12 <andythenorth> I wonder if it will cause bug reports [shrug emoji] 11:09:32 <frosch123> maybe find a way to define livery classes via newgrf, and make the gui only show those classes that actually exist 11:10:45 <frosch123> but not sure whether anyone ever uses those extended liveries 11:11:15 <frosch123> i don't think i did ever beyond trying the buttons for what they do 11:12:12 <andythenorth> I used them a lot 11:12:12 <frosch123> there were people with strong opinions abuot being able to safe/restore the manager face. i don't remember such requests for detailed liveries :) 11:12:16 <andythenorth> less so since groups 11:12:33 <andythenorth> groups over-rides the choice detailed choices 11:12:59 <frosch123> so, call them deprecated then 11:13:01 <longtomjr> extended liveries? 11:14:18 <longtomjr> Is that the feature that allows you to choose different company colors for different vehicle groups? 11:14:27 <longtomjr> or is that another feature I do not know about 11:14:58 <frosch123> https://wiki.openttd.org/en/Archive/Manual/Company%20Colours <- essentially tabs 2 to 5 11:15:50 <frosch123> the rows correspond to the railtypes, and whatever groups some ttdp guy thought relevant 15 years ago 11:18:18 <frosch123> it's probably one of the most broken guis in the game 11:18:36 <frosch123> what about steam engines on narrow gauge? 11:18:53 <andythenorth> the gui is lolz 11:19:04 <andythenorth> weird things like handling of mail 11:19:14 <andythenorth> and you can't set some things as MUs reliably 11:19:59 <Eddi|zuHause> is that just me or is that page awfully slow? 11:20:28 <Eddi|zuHause> i had blank page for at least 5 seconds 11:20:36 <frosch123> no issue here, so just you 11:21:04 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, it's fast now on reload 11:21:09 <Eddi|zuHause> maybe browser startup issue 11:21:31 <Eddi|zuHause> or DNS lookup 11:21:37 <frosch123> oh, there are more tabs in master 11:21:40 <frosch123> no idea what they do 11:23:29 <frosch123> ah, those are the group thingies 11:23:39 <frosch123> will anyone notice if tabs 2 to 5 go missing? 11:24:02 <Eddi|zuHause> me, in 5 years? 11:24:53 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm fairly convinced now that the DNS lookup was slow 11:25:14 *** matt21347 has quit IRC 11:27:05 *** matt21347 has joined #openttd 11:29:50 <longtomjr> frosch123, ah I use that, but you can do that based on your vehicle groups 11:30:55 <frosch123> vehicle groups and engine vs. wagon is orthagonal 11:31:13 <frosch123> but who really wants a matrix of all groups vs engine/wagon/whatever? 11:32:16 <longtomjr> You can do pretty much whatever you want with the groups right? You might need to do a bunch of groups, but if you really want to it should not be a problem? 11:33:17 <frosch123> you cannot put engiens and wagons of the same train into different groups :) 11:33:29 <longtomjr> Aaah that is the requirement 11:33:47 <frosch123> not sure anyone "requires" that :) 11:33:48 <longtomjr> Did not realise that yep 11:33:58 <longtomjr> Most of the time you want your liveries to match up 11:34:19 <longtomjr> Also, a lot of vehicle sets do liveries through refits 11:35:09 <frosch123> i guess maximum would be a matrix with rows for each group, and columns for every purchaseable engine/wagon type 11:35:25 <frosch123> though maybe you want to extend that to a cube for every refittable cargo type 11:35:35 <frosch123> and then 3cc per cell 11:35:58 * frosch123 goes shopping 11:36:13 <longtomjr> for cubes? 11:41:43 <andythenorth> for lolz 12:06:41 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 12:06:54 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 12:10:22 <frosch123> andythenorth: didn't you once suggested a colour brush tool for the depot? 12:10:30 <frosch123> to just paint individual vehicles 12:11:06 <andythenorth> yes 12:11:29 <andythenorth> and allow newgrf to extend the brushes 12:11:33 <frosch123> probably less choices than the livery cube 12:11:39 <andythenorth> well 16 company colours 12:11:47 <andythenorth> delete one of them 12:11:57 <andythenorth> I mean...pruple is ugly right? 12:12:11 <longtomjr> Just take hex color codes :P 12:12:15 <andythenorth> then use the spare bit to offset into a new pool of newgrf defined liveries 12:12:32 <andythenorth> which are just indexes 12:12:37 <frosch123> how about a special "outline-only" mode? then let your kid scribble it with colours? 12:13:15 <andythenorth> hmm I have a spritesheet of that 12:13:22 <andythenorth> I thought it was in the repo, seems not 12:13:23 *** gelignite has quit IRC 12:14:30 <andythenorth> hmm found it, but it's not the version in pink with a face 12:14:32 <andythenorth> nvm 12:14:49 <andythenorth> anyway, current company colour UI is a plague 12:57:10 <TrueBrain> LordAro: regarding SSH "attacks", most likely one of the two IPs was used with an active SSH before ... IP-reuse is real :P 13:00:19 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/aws-infra] TrueBrain commented on pull request #4: Add: ansible playbook for configuring new caching content servers https://git.io/JkW7Z 13:01:28 <TrueBrain> LordAro: if it helps, I can also create a "test.txt" or something, for testing purposes 13:04:07 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/aws-infra] TrueBrain commented on pull request #4: Add: ansible playbook for configuring new caching content servers https://git.io/JkW7b 13:04:12 <TrueBrain> LordAro: easiest debug EVAH 13:05:38 <TrueBrain> I hotfixed bananas-1 13:05:41 <TrueBrain> now SSL validation errors 13:10:36 <TrueBrain> routines:ssl3_get_record:wrong version number 13:10:39 <TrueBrain> lol .. wuth? :) 13:12:27 <LordAro> TrueBrain: indeed (re ssh) 13:12:37 <LordAro> TrueBrain: yep, saw that one as well 13:12:42 <LordAro> (before) 13:12:48 <LordAro> didn't get a chance to debug 13:12:55 <LordAro> yet 13:13:05 <LordAro> but feel free to do it for me :) 13:13:16 <TrueBrain> why the ... does it even do anything with ssl3? 13:14:50 <LordAro> not a clue 13:15:50 <TrueBrain> it worked for binaries-proxy :P 13:16:40 <TrueBrain> owh, it is requesting based on IP 13:16:40 <TrueBrain> wtf 13:19:05 <TrueBrain> I think this is SNI failing 13:20:27 <LordAro> i did think that was a bit weird 13:21:30 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/aws-infra] TrueBrain commented on pull request #4: Add: ansible playbook for configuring new caching content servers https://git.io/JkWFS 13:22:19 <TrueBrain> there you go, a solution on a platter 13:22:26 <TrueBrain> I hope you don't mind and didn't want to solve this yourself :( 13:22:53 <LordAro> :p 13:24:21 <TrueBrain> haha, we should maybe strip the AWS headers out, I notice :D 13:24:32 <TrueBrain> as it is now a cache of a cache :P 13:25:09 <TrueBrain> dropping all X- headers should be sufficient; no clue if it is worth the effort :) 13:25:23 <TrueBrain> hot-fixed bananas-1 13:27:48 <TrueBrain> owh, and IPv6 is not working; but you knew that :) (also going wrong trying to contact upstream :P) 13:28:10 <TrueBrain> what is cool, is that nginx sees all the A and AAAA records of AWS as potential servers (they are) 13:28:13 <TrueBrain> so if one fails, it tries the next 13:28:16 <TrueBrain> lovely, that that just works :) 13:56:35 <andythenorth> LUNCH! 14:14:56 * andythenorth </lunch> 14:15:02 <andythenorth> COFFEE! 14:15:32 <TrueBrain> CAPITALS 14:15:36 <andythenorth> frosch123 alongside 'paintbrush' we could have 'airbrush' which paints random vehicles in the depot 14:15:52 <andythenorth> we could also swap 'clone vehicle' into the photoshop style clone brush 14:16:28 <andythenorth> "Can't innovate anymore, my ass" 15:15:19 *** qwebirc25151 has joined #openttd 15:15:25 <qwebirc25151> hello 15:15:43 <qwebirc25151> where are older versions of openttd kept 15:16:00 <LordAro> https://cdn.openttd.org/ 15:16:02 <qwebirc25151> I wanted the 1.9.1 binary 15:24:33 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/team] extrazi opened issue #91: [pl_PL] Translator access request https://git.io/JklYx 15:29:18 <TrueBrain> qwebirc25151: well, you are in luck, even if you wanted 0.1.0, it is there! :P 15:34:31 <frosch123> i am waiting for the day someone asks what makes an openttd release an "useful-release" 15:40:13 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] twpol opened pull request #8342: Feature #8095: Allow automatically separating vehicles in shared orders https://git.io/JklGO 15:44:11 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] James103 commented on pull request #8342: Feature #8095: Allow automatically separating vehicles in shared orders https://git.io/JklZU 15:49:10 *** qwebirc25151 has quit IRC 16:13:41 *** Flygon has quit IRC 16:40:58 *** jottyfan has joined #openttd 16:47:42 <andythenorth> FML 16:48:11 <andythenorth> the benchmarks on the £999 ARM mac are better than the benchmarks on my £2500 i9 16:48:15 <andythenorth> Apple laptops are so bad 16:49:36 <andythenorth> why are they so slow? 17:06:00 *** jottyfan has quit IRC 17:11:13 <LordAro> are they especially tailored benchmarks? 17:15:16 <andythenorth> the initial benchmarks were just geekbench 17:15:24 <andythenorth> with and without the transpiler thingy 17:15:44 <andythenorth> but the reviews are testing more realistic useage 17:16:07 <andythenorth> I shouldn't be surprised, my kids £450 ipads are faster than my i9 17:16:27 <andythenorth> but still, the Apple laptop performance is awful 17:17:41 * andythenorth still surprised by computers after 40 years 17:22:04 <andythenorth> TL;DR Apple nerf performance with a crippled thermal design and low-spec intel chips 17:22:12 <andythenorth> so that's the answer 17:27:38 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 17:44:01 *** iSoSyS has joined #openttd 17:44:51 *** Progman has joined #openttd 17:47:37 *** jp has joined #openttd 17:48:10 *** jp is now known as Guest6129 17:59:37 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 18:05:32 *** Laedek_ has joined #openttd 18:11:45 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 18:12:39 *** Laedek has quit IRC 18:24:58 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 18:28:30 *** jottyfan has joined #openttd 19:08:29 *** longtomjr has quit IRC 19:11:39 *** Compu has joined #openttd 20:04:54 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 20:40:40 *** glx has joined #openttd 20:40:40 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 20:57:50 *** matt21347 has quit IRC 20:58:02 *** matt21347 has joined #openttd 21:07:23 *** gelignite has quit IRC 21:12:29 *** rptr_ has joined #openttd 21:24:22 *** jottyfan has quit IRC 21:30:38 <andythenorth> bedtime? 21:33:59 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] twpol updated pull request #8342: Feature #8095: Allow automatically separating vehicles in shared orders https://git.io/JklGO 21:37:03 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] twpol updated pull request #8342: Feature #8095: Allow automatically separating vehicles in shared orders https://git.io/JklGO 21:38:59 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] James103 commented on pull request #8342: Feature #8095: Allow automatically separating vehicles in shared orders https://git.io/JklxR 21:42:24 *** rptr_ has quit IRC 21:46:54 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] twpol commented on pull request #8342: Feature #8095: Allow automatically separating vehicles in shared orders https://git.io/JklpD 21:58:45 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 22:00:36 *** jottyfan has joined #openttd 22:12:40 *** Progman has quit IRC 22:38:32 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 23:02:34 *** nielsm has quit IRC 23:03:56 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 23:04:49 *** jottyfan has quit IRC 23:18:40 *** iSoSyS has quit IRC 23:19:37 *** matt21347 has quit IRC 23:24:06 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 23:48:42 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/aws-infra] LordAro updated pull request #4: Add: ansible playbook for configuring new caching content servers https://git.io/JkCEU 23:49:41 <LordAro> TrueBrain: staging achieved, with much effort. the whole "staging and production" on the same host is not a very good fit 23:50:24 <LordAro> i've also added ipv6 (manually, decided it wasn't "part of the configuration" in the same way that the ipv4 isn't), but am not brave enough to restart networking - i'll let you try that