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I mean, come on people :P 11:38:27 *** iSoSyS has joined #openttd 11:46:08 <andythenorth> Tunnel d9442f39da20.eu.ngrok.io not found ? o_O 11:46:14 * andythenorth wanted to send congrats but eh 11:46:21 <andythenorth> 'not live' 11:46:52 <TrueBrain> sorry, closed it :P 11:47:05 <TrueBrain> that was not really nice of me :) 11:47:36 <TrueBrain> I need to add a end-of-line-whitespace in a configuration, because ..... supybot is idiotic 11:47:40 <TrueBrain> but my editor doesn't allow me :P 11:48:36 * andythenorth lost in trains 11:48:46 <andythenorth> I seem to have made a modular cargo compositor previously 11:48:51 <andythenorth> and it seems to be extensible 11:49:10 <andythenorth> without really adding much complexity 11:49:14 <andythenorth> how odd 11:49:53 <andythenorth> hmm checking varact2 in the vehicle sprites chain, that's got no performance cost, right right right? 11:50:02 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 11:50:15 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 11:53:09 <LordAro> TrueBrain: can't quote it? 11:53:52 <TrueBrain> LordAro: no ... it uses a REALLY stupid format :P 11:53:57 <TrueBrain> it is okay, I found a way around it :) 11:56:13 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro commented on issue #8330: No installation on Ubuntu 20.10 possible https://git.io/JTCVS 11:56:22 <LordAro> TrueBrain: oh dear 11:56:34 *** iSoSyS has joined #openttd 12:15:00 <andythenorth> someone should make a grf for these https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-manchester-55110222 12:32:35 <TrueBrain> supybot.registry.NonExistentRegistryEntry: 'set' is not a valid entry in 'supybot.plugins.BetterServices.NickServ.password' 12:32:39 <TrueBrain> this is totaly gibberish to me 12:32:42 <TrueBrain> like .. what does it even say? 12:33:45 <andythenorth> oof 12:33:52 * andythenorth is as confused as you 12:34:05 <andythenorth> meanwhile someone should make a grf for *these* also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNJBV7EquWg 12:39:55 <TrueBrain> there is an absolute and total lack of documentation ... ugh ..... 12:54:22 *** iSoSyS has quit IRC 13:37:24 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 13:38:39 <Wolf01> andythenorth: these too https://youtu.be/bWu2ECFjgLE?t=78 13:39:11 <andythenorth> random grf containing pacer, mining truck, and truck for transporting mining trucks 13:40:31 <frosch123> what percentage of users will leave that door to the stairs open? 13:40:59 <Wolf01> 99.999% 13:41:56 *** glx has joined #openttd 13:41:56 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 13:48:48 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 13:51:55 *** DorpsGek_iv has joined #openttd 13:55:05 *** DorpsGek is now known as Guest7061 13:55:05 *** Guest7061 is now known as DorpsGek 13:55:56 <TrueBrain> battle of the bots :P 13:56:13 <andythenorth> had a bot once that was engineered to crash the other bot 13:56:20 <andythenorth> cyber bullying :| 13:56:43 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o DorpsGek_iv 13:57:26 <TrueBrain> %op 13:57:26 *** DorpsGek_iv sets mode: +o TrueBrain 13:57:29 <TrueBrain> %deop 13:57:29 *** DorpsGek_iv sets mode: -o TrueBrain 13:57:36 <TrueBrain> right ... identification also works :) 13:58:12 <TrueBrain> https://6dcb639c8cbe.eu.ngrok.io/weblogs/ <- with a gap in the logs of today, as I did not sync before starting .. but that works too (will leave it on this time andythenorth :)) 13:58:43 <andythenorth> I like the css :) 13:58:44 <andythenorth> it's nice 13:59:02 <TrueBrain> so the first thing someone does, it trying a month that does not exist? Really? :P 13:59:09 <TrueBrain> ah, it is listed 13:59:12 <TrueBrain> I was about to say, wtfffff :P 13:59:14 <TrueBrain> why is it listed .. 13:59:32 <TrueBrain> something created the folder .. lammmeeee 13:59:37 <andythenorth> it knows the future 13:59:44 <_dp_> yeah, I just clicked the latest :p 13:59:56 <TrueBrain> yeah, it was a bug on my side :) Fixed now :P 14:00:44 <glx> will III become a module for iv ? 14:00:53 <TrueBrain> it already is 14:02:01 <TrueBrain> %password 14:02:04 <TrueBrain> that no longer does anything :) 14:02:42 <DorpsGek> %whoami 14:02:42 <DorpsGek_iv> DorpsGek: I don't recognize you. 14:03:34 <TrueBrain> I like that I made DorpsGek_iv ghost DorpsGek , but DorpsGek was quick enough to reghost or something that it only lost his name :P 14:03:43 *** Flygon_ has quit IRC 14:04:29 <TrueBrain> it is not like you are banned from changing back for a while 14:04:39 <TrueBrain> so in theory ... I guess you can still claim a nick of someone else? 14:04:47 <TrueBrain> you just have to be quick enough to rename back :P 14:04:50 <TrueBrain> is that a bug? :D 14:05:08 <glx> you can always regain if indentified 14:05:17 <TrueBrain> that is what DorpsGek_iv did 14:05:26 <TrueBrain> but before he could rename to DorpsGek, DorpsGek reclaimed his name again 14:05:48 <TrueBrain> (that is why DorpsGek was named as Guest for a short moment 14:06:00 <glx> but they both identify as the same entity I guess 14:06:12 <TrueBrain> I guess .. not sure if it used NickServ to reclaim his nick 14:06:40 <TrueBrain> it was unexpected nevertheless :) 14:06:59 <glx> too bad I can't try an infinite say loop ;) 14:07:20 <TrueBrain> there is a reason I did not implement %say :P 14:07:39 <TrueBrain> s/implement/enable/ 14:08:12 <glx> reminds me of hey google/alexa fight videos 14:08:46 <TrueBrain> I think DorpsGek_iv can now be deployed to AWS, and replace DorpsGek_III ... 14:08:59 <TrueBrain> and even DorpsGek .. I just need to finish pushing the logs to S3 14:09:04 <TrueBrain> but that is not needed yet 14:12:04 <andythenorth> oof I thought I could optimise sprite generation 14:12:52 <andythenorth> I tried removing about 1000 instances of open-copy-crop for images 14:13:05 <andythenorth> saves 1.10s on a 20s compile, not really exciting :| 14:13:22 <FLHerne> In nml, or your templating? 14:13:33 <andythenorth> python graphics compositing 14:13:40 <andythenorth> not nml 14:14:31 *** DorpsGek_iv has quit IRC 14:14:56 <andythenorth> I usually run it with 16 pooled threads, so the saving would be about 0.07s 14:15:44 <andythenorth> I didn't look at memory use 14:16:31 * andythenorth tests 14:16:35 <andythenorth> doesn't really signify 14:29:05 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/DorpsGek] TrueBrain opened pull request #39: Add: integrate Limnoria into the IRC bot, to extend its capabilities https://git.io/Jkb2Q 14:29:27 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/DorpsGek] TrueBrain updated pull request #39: Add: integrate Limnoria into the IRC bot, to extend its capabilities https://git.io/Jkb2Q 14:29:31 <TrueBrain> the mandatory 2-push approach 14:31:08 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/DorpsGek] TrueBrain updated pull request #39: Add: integrate Limnoria into the IRC bot, to extend its capabilities https://git.io/Jkb2Q 14:41:01 <glx> %whoami 14:42:53 <frosch123> i didn't know that the xyz.users.oftc.net was unique 14:43:05 <frosch123> i thought it is randomly assigned on join 14:44:05 <glx> would be a pain to manage ban lists 14:44:24 <TrueBrain> I keep surprising you with .users. things services offer :) 14:44:55 <TrueBrain> but I cheated; glx showed me it was stable :P 14:45:08 <TrueBrain> (as he had it as his hostmask for DorpsGek ) 14:45:13 <glx> well my IP is stable too 14:45:48 <glx> just sometimes it's IPv6, sometimes it's IPv4 14:49:06 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/DorpsGek] frosch123 approved pull request #39: Add: integrate Limnoria into the IRC bot, to extend its capabilities https://git.io/Jkbrd 14:49:22 <frosch123> i like how it leaks the name of the secret channel :) 14:50:01 <TrueBrain> yeah, I did wonder if I should do anything about that ... but ... we all know how easy it is to kick people .. and one can debate if that channel still have a use at all :) 14:50:27 <frosch123> i think it was used 3 times this year :) 14:51:21 <TrueBrain> I wouldn't know; I haven't been in it for months :P 14:51:53 <frosch123> yeah, but we know you can read the logs, so we still cannot make fun of you 14:52:11 <TrueBrain> haha, that is true, I can read the logs ... didn't even realise :P 14:52:17 <TrueBrain> with the new bot that will be a lot harder 14:52:48 <TrueBrain> I am pretty sure I forgot to add users btw .. the ones I added I knew the oftc handle of 14:53:21 <glx> you can't ask DorpsGek about the list of known users ? 14:53:37 <frosch123> you missed our lord 14:53:38 <TrueBrain> most people did not have their users.oftc thingy in there 14:53:41 <frosch123> the rest is not active anway 14:53:45 <glx> and their capabilities 14:54:12 <TrueBrain> owh, and I haven't checked yet if I missed any channel .. 14:54:19 <TrueBrain> I assume #openttd.dev is no longer in use? 14:54:31 <frosch123> .noai neither :) 14:54:34 <TrueBrain> glx: is #opendune still used? You happen to know? 14:54:56 <glx> it's very quiet :) 14:55:07 <TrueBrain> should I still add DorpsGek there? 14:55:59 <TrueBrain> frosch123: cannot add our lord, as I don't know his oftc handle .. he currently is not identified 14:56:08 <TrueBrain> same for pm 14:56:38 <frosch123> ok, so they have to pr if they care :) 14:56:43 <TrueBrain> yup 14:56:58 <TrueBrain> glx: I will add #opendune, with you as operator :P 14:57:14 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/DorpsGek] TrueBrain dismissed a review for pull request #39: Add: integrate Limnoria into the IRC bot, to extend its capabilities https://git.io/Jkbrd 14:57:14 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/DorpsGek] TrueBrain updated pull request #39: Add: integrate Limnoria into the IRC bot, to extend its capabilities https://git.io/Jkb2Q 14:57:19 <TrueBrain> frosch123: did you like the ugly hacks I had to write around supybot? :P 14:57:37 <TrueBrain> I mostly love my AaaHideCommands plugin :) 14:57:52 <TrueBrain> (the updated PR only changes users.conf btw) 14:58:01 <frosch123> well, you already spoiled that the past days 14:58:53 <TrueBrain> and in good news, I can now deploy a staging version of this bot, so I no longer have to YOLO it so much every month :P 14:59:02 <frosch123> what does "capability admin" do? 14:59:14 <TrueBrain> it gives you the power to op it in channels via ChanServ 14:59:23 <TrueBrain> if you do "@services op", it will attempt that 14:59:32 <TrueBrain> might require a "@services identify" first 14:59:37 <frosch123> ah, that one 14:59:51 <frosch123> you always had to do that in .dev, or it stopped announcing commits 15:00:13 <TrueBrain> not sure if .dev gives DorpsGek the power to do so via ChanServ, honestly 15:00:27 <glx> I usually voiced III in .notice 15:00:40 <TrueBrain> yes, DorpsGek_III cannot become voices himself 15:00:57 <glx> well I asked DorpsGek to voice DorpsGek_III 15:00:58 <TrueBrain> but baby dorpsgek should now be able; if not, it is a misconfigured of the channel via ChanServ :) 15:01:28 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/DorpsGek] frosch123 approved pull request #39: Add: integrate Limnoria into the IRC bot, to extend its capabilities https://git.io/Jkb63 15:04:38 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/DorpsGek] TrueBrain merged pull request #39: Add: integrate Limnoria into the IRC bot, to extend its capabilities https://git.io/Jkb2Q 15:04:42 <TrueBrain> cheers frosch123 15:04:49 <TrueBrain> tomorrow or so I will see about deploying this :) 15:05:51 <TrueBrain> that will be interesting, I can tell you already :P 15:06:31 <TrueBrain> and I guess now I first going to change mailservers 15:08:02 <frosch123> let's hope or*dge does not shut us down for not paying our bills 15:08:13 <glx> oh I still have them set in my different mail clients (even if they are useless since the forwarding) 15:08:24 <TrueBrain> is orudge being a slacker and not paying the bill for his own company? Tssk :P :D 15:16:01 <TrueBrain> okay, created mailboxes for fonsinchen , planetmaker and rubidium on the new server 15:16:08 <TrueBrain> guess ... I can flip the switch .. :D 15:16:23 <TrueBrain> well, maybe orudge could run imap sync first 15:16:26 <TrueBrain> might be better 15:16:37 <TrueBrain> (on info@, that is) 15:17:41 <TrueBrain> although for a while email will arrive on both boxes 15:17:46 <TrueBrain> as .. that is the nature of DNS :) 15:17:56 <TrueBrain> well, not both, either one 15:19:57 <TrueBrain> copied the missing ones manually :) 15:20:06 <TrueBrain> okay, zone changes made 15:20:24 <TrueBrain> frosch123: I did tell you that the info@ password is changed on the new server, right? 15:20:55 <frosch123> no, i just assume that when my client tells me it's wrong, i would look into 1pw 15:21:23 <frosch123> is that a safe strategy? 15:21:59 <TrueBrain> yes 15:22:03 <TrueBrain> very safe :) 15:22:56 <frosch123> when that fails, the next strategy would be trying "123" or "ilovetb" 15:23:04 <TrueBrain> :D 15:23:13 <TrueBrain> okay, mail flows correctly through the new mailserver now 15:23:47 *** Progman has quit IRC 15:24:08 <TrueBrain> I will clean up the DNS records next week, when I shut down the old mail server 15:24:18 <TrueBrain> just to give the world some time to pick up on the DNS change :) 15:24:26 <TrueBrain> right ... another issue resolved! ALMOST THEREEEEE 15:24:43 <frosch123> the old server expires next friday, so nice timing :) 15:24:58 <TrueBrain> as in, in 6 days, or 13? 15:25:05 <frosch123> 6 15:25:09 <TrueBrain> hmmm 15:25:42 <TrueBrain> we will have to see if that is possible :) 15:26:01 <frosch123> not sure whether someone is used to auto-extending it :) 15:26:24 <TrueBrain> "auto"-extending is a manual action :P 15:26:35 <TrueBrain> but he knows we are nearing completiong 15:40:54 *** jottyfan has joined #openttd 15:42:48 *** tokai has joined #openttd 15:42:48 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai 16:29:16 *** jottyfan has quit IRC 16:30:55 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 16:32:34 <orudge> Yes, normally I would renew it a) for 3 months or so at a time and b) sooner, but I knew we were getting close to completing the migration 16:34:50 <orudge> I'll do a final resync of -mail in a few days 16:58:57 *** supermop_Home_ has joined #openttd 17:05:06 *** otetede has joined #openttd 17:41:17 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 17:52:01 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] DorpsGek pushed 1 commits to master https://git.io/JkNJq 17:52:01 <DorpsGek_III> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators) 18:48:40 *** otetede has quit IRC 18:58:36 *** Tirili has joined #openttd 19:08:23 *** longtomjr has quit IRC 19:57:10 <andythenorth> can have a flag to suppress nml constant optimisations? :D 19:57:25 <andythenorth> they are masking my errors :D 20:02:36 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 20:04:47 <TrueBrain> yeah, that was the moment frosch realised he had to run :P 20:08:06 <andythenorth> frosch often leaves shortly after I ask a question 20:08:12 <TrueBrain> take the hint! :P 20:08:14 <TrueBrain> <3 20:08:26 <andythenorth> aiding my guilt nicely there TrueBrain :( 20:08:32 <TrueBrain> :D No need ;) 20:08:49 <TrueBrain> haven't gotten a single wiki complaint in the last week .. seems the latest change nudged people in enough of a direction to calm them down 20:08:54 <andythenorth> hurrah! 20:09:04 <andythenorth> do you need more 'feedback'? :D 20:09:16 <TrueBrain> if you can put it in a PR, sure :) 20:10:28 <TrueBrain> still cannot believe google hasn't updated .. bing has, duckduckgo has .. it is just google being a fucking idiot 20:10:37 <andythenorth> it's quite annoying 20:11:12 <TrueBrain> that it is for sure 20:11:21 <TrueBrain> happens if the world depends too much on a single provider 20:11:28 <TrueBrain> bad things always happen in those cases :) 20:11:38 *** Tirili has quit IRC 20:12:46 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 20:13:25 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 20:15:10 <TrueBrain> 90% of the 404s currently being generated (around 50 every 5 minutes) are by crawlers 20:15:41 <TrueBrain> many really like to crawl the Special pages :) 20:22:17 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 20:36:04 <_dp_> spam servers still there :( 20:36:23 <_dp_> TrueBrain, didn't you want to filter them out in new master server? 20:37:46 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 20:38:31 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 20:39:28 <TrueBrain> Any thought how to do it in an elegant way? 20:39:52 <TrueBrain> I believe on IP was not really an option 20:40:11 <_dp_> by substring? 20:40:30 <TrueBrain> Wouldn't they just change minor stuff and bypass it? 20:41:17 <_dp_> well, if you ban their website it should kinda defeat the purpose :p 20:41:28 <FLHerne> They haven't bothered to update server version for months, so they're pretty much buried if you're running 1.10.3 20:41:43 <FLHerne> i.e. they're pretty lazy about their spamming 20:42:27 <TrueBrain> Ghehe 20:58:27 *** Progman has joined #openttd 22:32:41 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 22:48:39 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 23:37:27 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 23:47:40 *** Tirili has joined #openttd 23:55:57 *** Tirili has quit IRC