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00:08:08 *** glx has quit IRC 00:30:07 *** Progman has quit IRC 00:35:14 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 00:55:19 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 01:32:58 *** Wuzzy has joined #openttd 01:33:19 <Wuzzy> new version of OpenSFX update available: https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenSFX/pull/8 01:45:42 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 02:06:05 *** luaduck has quit IRC 02:14:40 *** luaduck has joined #openttd 02:34:49 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 03:03:51 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 03:05:26 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 03:11:07 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 03:13:04 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 03:15:26 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 03:15:39 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 03:46:40 *** D-HUND has joined #openttd 03:50:02 *** debdog has quit IRC 05:01:29 *** Wuzzy has quit IRC 05:42:13 *** snail_UES_ has quit IRC 07:27:54 <TrueBrain> hmmm ... dynamoDB is out of capacity ... master server is failing hard :P 07:28:03 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 07:28:27 <TrueBrain> we have 3 times more traffic on the masterserver ... 07:29:16 <_dp_> eh? why? 07:29:24 <TrueBrain> no clue; it is not like there are more servers 07:29:38 <_dp_> and no more players it seems... 07:30:04 <TrueBrain> the dynamoDB traffic scales with servers 07:30:21 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 07:30:26 <TrueBrain> started 4 hours ago 07:30:34 <andythenorth> yo 07:33:17 <TrueBrain> for now I increased capacity on the DynamoDB 07:33:28 <TrueBrain> but that means we now exceed our "free tier" :P 07:34:06 <TrueBrain> it is possible because it couldn't update servers, the servers come back quicker, causing more pressure on the master server .. 07:34:17 <TrueBrain> I am going with that assumption for now, and we will validate that tonight :) 07:37:17 <TrueBrain> I love that scaling is near-instant :P 07:38:19 <TrueBrain> in other good news, Steam approved our Game Build 07:38:29 <TrueBrain> well, they only checked Windows, as due to Corona, they cannot check macOS 07:38:30 <TrueBrain> lol 07:38:49 <TrueBrain> so it seems that on the 14th of Feb it will show our "planned release" date :) 07:43:00 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 07:45:19 *** supermop_Home has quit IRC 07:48:59 <_dp_> what's the proper way to hide element completely in the ui? WWT_PANEL seems to reserve space even if the current pane is empty 08:00:15 <TrueBrain> I think the master-server problem is because someone has been announcing his server a lot in a very short period of time .. like .. a crashloop or something 08:01:00 <TrueBrain> guess it needs an IP-throttle or something 08:02:19 <_dp_> crash loop huh 08:02:33 <_dp_> hope it wasn't me xD 08:03:17 <TrueBrain> in the massive amount of logs this generated, it is hard to see what happened exactly ... I have to download the logs tonight, I guess 08:03:22 <TrueBrain> and see in detail what it was doing 08:03:53 <TrueBrain> and let's hope it now recovers to a normal level soon, as I really have to go :P 08:05:56 <andythenorth> \o/ 08:06:04 <TrueBrain> another piece of the puzzle: possibly the TTL cleanup happened, as it just threw out 40+ servers that were no longer online ... 08:06:58 <TrueBrain> well, it is no longer throttled .. tonight more; byeezzzz 08:08:29 <_dp_> hm, quite a lot of advertisement on citymania but seems normal 08:09:39 <_dp_> well, except when it was failing and retries piled in 08:13:06 <_dp_> grep on citymania logs if that helps: https://pastebin.com/crXcCNmu 08:13:18 <_dp_> Sx after DEBUG is the number of the server 08:16:17 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 08:58:33 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 09:11:47 *** Smedles has quit IRC 09:13:09 *** Smedles has joined #openttd 09:30:35 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 09:51:11 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 10:36:35 *** gnu_jj has joined #openttd 10:46:27 *** gnu_jj has quit IRC 11:38:16 <_dp_> crazy idea of the day: locomotion as a mod to openttd :p 11:46:39 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 12:05:43 *** Samu has joined #openttd 12:10:25 *** murr4y has quit IRC 12:14:16 <_dp_> hm... esimated cost of changing game settings is 0 :p 12:32:36 *** gnu_jj has joined #openttd 12:40:42 *** gnu_jj has quit IRC 12:58:14 *** aliasbkilgrinhu[m] is now known as bkilm[m] 13:11:09 <Samu> hi 13:36:10 *** gnu_jj has joined #openttd 13:44:17 *** gnu_jj has quit IRC 13:45:07 *** murr4y has joined #openttd 13:51:22 *** supermop_Home has joined #openttd 13:51:28 <supermop_Home> hi 13:55:36 <Eddi|zuHause> _dp_: is that not correct? 14:09:51 *** k-man has quit IRC 14:15:20 *** snail_UES_ has joined #openttd 14:31:31 *** k-man has joined #openttd 14:35:39 *** nielsm has joined #openttd 15:26:25 *** Flygon has quit IRC 15:27:43 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 15:56:47 *** Flygon has quit IRC 16:01:41 *** virtualrandomnumber has joined #openttd 16:01:57 *** virtualrandomnumber has quit IRC 16:05:24 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 16:14:26 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 16:24:06 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] ldpl opened pull request #8638: Feature: [GS] Allow non-question type windows to have no buttons https://git.io/JtEZG 16:26:22 *** Wuzzy has joined #openttd 16:29:41 *** glx has joined #openttd 16:29:41 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 16:33:23 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 merged pull request #8637: Fix: [CMake] Language files should depend on english.txt https://git.io/Jt005 17:36:00 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 opened pull request #8639: Add: Allow translation of "(Directory)" and "(Parent directory)" https://git.io/JtEWD 17:36:42 <glx> that's why I noticed the missing dep on english.txt ;) 17:36:49 <LordAro> :) 17:37:43 <LordAro> int64 args_array[] = { (int64)(size_t)dirname.c_str() }; 17:37:45 <LordAro> wut. 17:37:56 <LordAro> that's disgusting 17:37:58 <glx> raw string 17:38:00 <LordAro> is that really how string parameters work? 17:38:16 <glx> yes it works that way 17:38:22 <LordAro> that's disappointing 17:39:00 <glx> unless I use SetDParamStr() 17:44:49 <glx> hmm I used the same way as in FormatString(), but I guess SetDParamStr will be cleaner 17:53:39 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 updated pull request #8639: Add: Allow translation of "(Directory)" and "(Parent directory)" https://git.io/JtEWD 17:53:49 <glx> easier to read now 17:53:59 <LordAro> :) 17:54:45 <LordAro> is it worth '..' being a parameter at all? 17:54:58 <glx> I think in FormatString() we use the "weird" way to not mess with caller provided args 17:55:40 <glx> about '..' being a parameter I though about RTL languages 17:57:39 <glx> in untranslated version it looks weird, for some reason layouter draws it "(Parent directory) .." while it's still "dir\ (Directory)" for others 17:58:02 <glx> and drive letters are drawn ":C" 17:58:58 <glx> worst thing I noticed is display of current dir on top of the window, it's drawn "\D:\dir1\dir2" 17:59:19 <LordAro> ew 17:59:53 <glx> at least for both added strings translators will be able to manage that 18:01:33 <glx> I guess we'll need a report from concerned people to know how it should look :) 18:04:24 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] SamuXarick opened pull request #8640: Fix: Missing or needed spaces https://git.io/JtElw 18:05:03 <Samu> that kind of PR that does nothing 18:06:52 <glx> IIRC translators can use text direction markers if needed 18:09:20 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 18:13:01 <glx> Samu: code style fixing is not nothing :) 18:13:37 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 approved pull request #8640: Fix: Missing or needed spaces https://git.io/JtElA 18:16:01 <TrueBrain> glx: if you merge that, make sure to change it into a Codechange; pretty sure it is not fixing anything. Makes life of who-ever writes the changelog ever so slightly easier 18:16:49 <glx> yeah rewording the commit message was intended 18:17:26 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] DorpsGek pushed 1 commits to master https://git.io/JtE8U 18:17:27 <DorpsGek> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators) 18:18:02 <glx> Samu: nothing to add to the PR ? ;) 18:18:21 <Samu> can't spot anything else 18:18:25 <Samu> for now at least 18:20:16 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 commented on pull request #8640: Fix: Missing or needed spaces https://git.io/JtE8n 18:20:42 <glx> no hurry to merge, it's not vital ;) and if you find more you can add them 18:21:18 <glx> as you often look in many parts of the code 18:23:04 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 18:28:38 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain commented on pull request #8617: Change: Convert .md to .rtf/.txt for installers https://git.io/JtE81 18:29:15 <TrueBrain> I just don't understand converting Markdown to ".txt" :P But I fully understand that might be a bias on my side, so I would love another developers perspective 18:29:57 <TrueBrain> to me it is like: we have this human readable format, lets convert it to another human readable format .... :P 18:30:20 <glx> well markdown is human readable, but you don't "see" the formatting 18:30:29 <TrueBrain> neither you do in .txt 18:30:37 <TrueBrain> that is what I mean :) 18:30:39 <TrueBrain> nothing changes :P 18:30:53 <glx> ha yeah for txt it's almost useless 18:30:54 <TrueBrain> converting to rtf, PDF, Word, .. sure, I can get that 18:31:10 <TrueBrain> but I know I work in the world of IT mostly with nerds etc .. so I also understand I am biased :) 18:31:43 <glx> but I can understand some people not knowing they can open a .md in notepad 18:31:49 <TrueBrain> pandoc doesn't even bother changing the Markdown [text](url) format 18:31:58 <TrueBrain> well, the PR changes it to rtf for Windows 18:32:01 <TrueBrain> so we solved that issue :P 18:33:37 <TrueBrain> how did we get from 80 to 100 issues in a month .. pfft 18:33:46 <glx> easy ;) 18:34:04 <TrueBrain> owh, yeah, people making 4 issues for a single problem 18:34:13 <TrueBrain> the black/white approach :) 18:35:31 *** otetede has joined #openttd 18:35:44 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] SamuXarick dismissed a review for pull request #8640: Fix: Missing or needed spaces https://git.io/JtElA 18:35:47 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] SamuXarick updated pull request #8640: Fix: Missing or needed spaces https://git.io/JtElw 18:37:28 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 18:38:19 <glx> I knew it ;) 18:38:34 *** Progman has joined #openttd 18:39:41 <glx> Samu: and you can add as many commits as you need, it will be squashed at the end :) 18:39:55 <Samu> ok, :p 18:41:01 <frosch123> i do not understand info@ anymore 18:41:31 <TrueBrain> https://gist.github.com/TrueBrain/236abc053f30c221ccae21896a4e07a7 <- I will ask 2TallTyler if this helps him, but what do you guys think? 18:41:37 <frosch123> since the steam thing started, i can no longer distinguish between pure spam, and weird people 18:42:32 <TrueBrain> you blame Steam, but is that fair? :P 18:42:47 <TrueBrain> the one mail, sure 18:43:10 <TrueBrain> but we had some weird ass mails anyway :D 18:43:13 <frosch123> well, now we get real mail from real people, but they think we are a company 18:43:27 <TrueBrain> blame that on the certificate for macOS :P 18:43:33 <TrueBrain> :D :D 18:43:39 <glx> <TrueBrain> but we had some weird ass mails anyway :D <-- yeah and I sometimes am in CC 18:43:54 <frosch123> while previously "we have a business opportunity" was always fake 18:44:05 <LordAro> TrueBrain: xkcd#37, etc 18:44:19 <TrueBrain> I btw emailed Steam with: wtf happened to the release date? I enter 1 april, you say 1 feb, but you don't allow us to release before the 14th feb .. what give?! :P 18:45:21 <TrueBrain> LordAro: did I use a hyphen? :) 18:45:39 <TrueBrain> not sure if it is any better that I did not use a hyphen honestly 18:45:52 <TrueBrain> in fact, pretty sure I hope we did not get any ass mail :P 18:46:31 <LordAro> :p 18:47:37 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] SamuXarick updated pull request #8640: Fix: Missing or needed spaces https://git.io/JtElw 18:47:38 <TrueBrain> so, right, DynamoDB said BOOOMMM last night .. lets see if I can find out why 18:48:26 <TrueBrain> I also know what I am going to do about the ads on the master server 18:48:37 <TrueBrain> but first ... why on earth do we have this many more advertisements all of a sudden 18:48:38 <LordAro> banhammer? 18:48:55 <TrueBrain> they use dynamic IPs, so it is not trivial .. but I think I found an elegant way :) 18:49:20 <TrueBrain> but I don't know if it is related, but the ad has changed MO 18:51:02 <TrueBrain> we don't appear to have many more servers online (I think?) 18:51:03 <_dp_> MO? 18:51:09 <TrueBrain> Modus Operandi 18:51:18 <TrueBrain> They now have 1 client active on all servers (and updated to 1.10.3) 18:51:25 <FLHerne> TrueBrain: But the alternative is people writing four problems in a single issue, and that's worse 18:52:46 <_dp_> idk, they seem to have all kinds of versions 18:52:58 <_dp_> 1.8.0, 1.10.1 18:53:00 <TrueBrain> they didn't have 1.10.3 earlier, and not 1 client active :P 18:53:15 <TrueBrain> anyway ... how to trace where this extra traffic is coming from .. hmm 18:54:49 <TrueBrain> tnx for your server logs _dp_ 18:54:55 <TrueBrain> shows that everything is behaving normal 18:55:00 <TrueBrain> for normal people :P 18:55:54 <TrueBrain> https://pasteboard.co/JMwUadJ.png <- this is btw what happened 18:56:00 <TrueBrain> red line is provisioned capacity 18:56:11 <TrueBrain> you can see where I scaled up, and how much I had to scale up 18:56:18 <LordAro> that is quite a lot 18:56:44 <TrueBrain> that would be equal to 5 times more servers, the amount of traffic 18:59:48 <TrueBrain> well, lets start with a redeployment, maybe that magically fixes things or something 19:00:05 *** nielsm has quit IRC 19:03:50 <TrueBrain> stupid aiohttp still hasn't put out a new release? Pfft 19:03:55 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] orudge commented on pull request #8617: Change: Convert .md to .rtf/.txt for installers https://git.io/JtE4A 19:07:12 <TrueBrain> pip finally does decent version checks ... this will be painful :P 19:07:56 <LordAro> ah yes, i heard of this 19:08:07 <TrueBrain> The conflict is caused by: 19:08:07 <TrueBrain> The user requested smmap==4.0.0 19:08:07 <TrueBrain> gitdb 4.0.5 depends on smmap<4 and >=3.0.1 19:08:07 <LordAro> they also put it in their final release of pip for py27 19:08:10 <TrueBrain> shit like that 19:08:12 <LordAro> which broke a lot of projects 19:08:44 <TrueBrain> well, they were warned to upgrade :P 19:09:13 <LordAro> true, but this was a massive hulking enterprise project that my friend was complaining about :p 19:10:07 <TrueBrain> even ... more reason they should already taken care of it :P :P 19:10:16 <TrueBrain> hmm .. do we update pip in the Dockerfiles 19:10:16 <TrueBrain> hmm 19:10:21 <TrueBrain> I guess that should be perfectly fine 19:12:31 <TrueBrain> pyup and me are not going to be friends for long, honestly 19:12:48 <TrueBrain> really need a better alternative .. which doesn't make 1 PR per change :P 19:13:32 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/bananas-api] TrueBrain updated pull request #81: Scheduled monthly dependency update for February https://git.io/Jt0Lz 19:17:08 <_dp_> are those really stolen trees on the main page? 19:18:15 <TrueBrain> https://store.steampowered.com/app/1536610/OpenTTD/ <- they fixed the release date \o/ :D 19:19:33 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/website] TrueBrain opened pull request #190: Add: News about OpenTTD on steam https://git.io/JtEBW 19:20:16 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/master-server] TrueBrain updated pull request #24: Scheduled monthly dependency update for February https://git.io/Jt0qZ 19:22:03 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/bananas-api] TrueBrain commented on pull request #81: Scheduled monthly dependency update for February https://git.io/JtEBB 19:22:23 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/master-server] TrueBrain commented on pull request #24: Scheduled monthly dependency update for February https://git.io/JtEB0 19:23:36 <Wolf01> @seen andythenorth 19:23:37 <DorpsGek> Wolf01: andythenorth was last seen in #openttd 11 hours, 17 minutes, and 40 seconds ago: <andythenorth> \o/ 19:29:43 <TrueBrain> and look, our first guide: https://steamcommunity.com/app/1536610/guides/#scrollTop=0 :D 19:30:39 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/bananas-frontend-web] TrueBrain updated pull request #53: Scheduled monthly dependency update for February https://git.io/Jt0Lx 19:31:04 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/bananas-frontend-web] TrueBrain commented on pull request #53: Scheduled monthly dependency update for February https://git.io/JtEB1 19:31:51 <frosch123> _dp_: https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=1089044#p1089044 <- "don't overlook the trees" 19:33:02 <FLHerne> Would it be a good idea to add a "Transport Tycoon Deluxe is a trademark of <whoever the heck owns it now>" footnote somewhere on that page? 19:33:08 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/bananas-server] TrueBrain updated pull request #41: Scheduled monthly dependency update for February https://git.io/Jt0tG 19:33:29 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/bananas-server] TrueBrain commented on pull request #41: Scheduled monthly dependency update for February https://git.io/JtEB9 19:34:31 <Wolf01> <TrueBrain> and look, our first guide <- and one can't vote it because doesn't have the game... wtf is wrong with steam 19:34:58 <TrueBrain> they consider it impossible that you have any knowledge of the game as you don't have it :P 19:35:00 <TrueBrain> prevents trolls 19:35:42 <TrueBrain> FLHerne: don't you only have to mention that if you are selling or advertising it? 19:36:46 <_dp_> frosch123, so? 19:36:46 <TrueBrain> https://trademarkfactory.com/faq/can-i-mention-someone-elses-trademark-on-my-website (random site on the internet :P) 19:37:24 <Wolf01> <frosch123> _dp_: https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=1089044#p1089044 <- "don't overlook the trees" <- 1st picture, what a nice view, 2nd one wow so relaxing, 3rd one MY EYES BURN!!!! 19:38:53 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/master-server-web] TrueBrain updated pull request #19: Scheduled monthly dependency update for February https://git.io/Jt0qV 19:39:11 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/master-server-web] TrueBrain commented on pull request #19: Scheduled monthly dependency update for February https://git.io/JtEBA 19:39:23 <FLHerne> TrueBrain: My concern is that people often assume that "OpenTTD" expands to "Open Transport Tycoon Deluxe", I've seen that spelling in several past reviews/magazine articles 19:39:26 <frosch123> _dp_: i am not someone who would recognise the trees by their pixels, but given the screeenshot author, it's most likely "stolen trees" 19:39:45 <FLHerne> And on the unofficial emscripten site that existed at one time 19:39:53 <frosch123> _dp_: all screenshots in the banner are winning entries of "screenshot of the month" 19:40:05 <TrueBrain> FLHerne: but it doesn't. So why reference the trademark? That would only confuse people more? (honest questions btw, to be clear :D) 19:40:27 <FLHerne> TrueBrain: The page already mentions "Transport Tycoon Deluxe" several times 19:40:35 <TrueBrain> yes, but in a non-trademark way 19:40:39 <_dp_> it's pretty easy to recognize stolen trees because all other trees look awful :p 19:40:48 <TrueBrain> mentioning that the trademark of something belongs to another, gives the impression we are selling their product 19:40:49 <TrueBrain> which we are not 19:41:13 <TrueBrain> so mentioning it has a counter-productive result, I think; at least from a legal point of view, if I get this trademark stuff right :D 19:41:34 <FLHerne> Yes, but it seems confusing to have "OpenTTD is a remake of ... Transport Tycoon Deluxe" and not make it clear that it *doesn't* technically expand to that 19:42:02 <TrueBrain> that sentence is on most places that talk about OpenTTD 19:42:40 <frosch123> _dp_: aren't they way too big? 19:42:47 <TrueBrain> We have always been clear we are called OpenTTD .. we even corrected several news-outlets there :) 19:42:49 <FLHerne> Yes, which is why so many outsiders make that mistake 19:43:11 <TrueBrain> but mentioning the trademark is not going to fix that 19:43:41 <milek7_> maybe 'OpenTTD is not endrosed or affilated in any way with <ttd trademark owner>'? 19:43:59 <TrueBrain> I think that just wakes up sleeping dogs, honestly 19:44:06 <FLHerne> The natural reading of "Open<acronym> is blah blah <capitalized expansion of acronym>" is that it stands for that 19:44:22 <TrueBrain> I get what you are saying FLHerne ; I just don't think mentioning the trademark resolves that :) 19:44:28 <TrueBrain> in fact, I think that works counterproductive :P 19:45:09 <_dp_> frosch123, look fine to me :p 19:45:19 <FLHerne> What milek7_ said then, or both 19:45:22 <frosch123> i would leave "talking about trademarks" to lawyers 19:45:42 <frosch123> i don't think anyone here can make a useful sentence with it :) 19:45:42 <TrueBrain> everywhere I have read in the last 10 minutes make it clear: mention trademarks if you sell or advertise their goods 19:45:49 <FLHerne> "Transport Tycoon Deluxe is a trademark of <whoever>. OpenTTD is not affiliated with <whoever>" 19:46:34 <FLHerne> Yes, and my worry is that the page makes a strong implication that it's selling their goods 19:47:20 <FLHerne> It repeatedly mentions the Transport Tycoon trademark and games, without ever making a clear statement that it's not legally associated with them 19:47:53 <TrueBrain> just for my understanding: what changes with going on Steam? As in, both our wiki and wikipedia has been mentioning it in this form for 16 years now, so I wonder how you see this differently (again, honest question) 19:48:59 <FLHerne> People actually look at Steam :p 19:49:09 <TrueBrain> pretty sure people look at wikipedia too :) 19:49:39 <TrueBrain> anyway, "don't mention trademark if no lawyer is involved" seems to be the general advise 19:49:39 <FLHerne> Less flippantly, Steam is primarily a commercial-games-publisher platform, you kind of expect that stuff sold through it is 'official' 19:49:56 <FLHerne> No-one cares if Wikipedia says it 19:50:05 <TrueBrain> so to step passed that issue, I understand that you might think having OpenTTD and "Transport Tycoon Deluxe" in close proximity can lead people to the wrong conclusion 19:50:14 <TrueBrain> we can, without mentioning trademark, of course add a line to make that more clear 19:50:20 <FLHerne> Wikipedia is written by random people, you can't hold OTTD responsible for third-party descriptions 19:50:32 <TrueBrain> we say it on our wiki, even our website 19:50:44 <TrueBrain> I mean, in your face, on www.openttd.org, is "OpenTTD is an open source simulation game based upon Transport Tycoon Deluxe" 19:50:44 <FLHerne> It causes confusion there too 19:50:47 <FLHerne> Repeatedly 19:51:00 <TrueBrain> but okay, we can debate that; it is a matter of opinion. More useful, what we can do to solve it 19:51:08 <TrueBrain> mentioning trademark is not solving it (in fact, possibly making it worse) 19:51:15 <FLHerne> As you say, "we even corrected several news-outlets there" 19:51:16 <TrueBrain> but we can mention it in 10000 different ways 19:51:24 <TrueBrain> so lets focus on that ;) 19:51:48 <Samu> going steam = demise of openttd 19:51:54 <Samu> but ok 19:52:06 <FLHerne> Depends how up-front it needs to be 19:52:19 <FLHerne> Very up-front would be adding something to the first paragraph 19:52:52 <TrueBrain> like? 19:53:01 <FLHerne> "It is an open-source remake and expansion of the 1995 Chris Sawyer video game Transport Tycoon Deluxe, but not affiliated with that game's publishers" 19:53:11 <FLHerne> Probably not quite the right wording 19:53:21 <FLHerne> But that kind of line 19:53:33 <TrueBrain> so who can find the right wording? :D 19:53:34 <FLHerne> Less up-front would be to add a note under "Free and open source" at the bottom 19:54:00 <TrueBrain> (I suck at english when it comes to these texts, so don't look at me :P) 19:54:05 <TrueBrain> current text is not written by me, at all :D 19:54:19 <frosch123> _dp_: actually, the real question is: is that screenshot made with ttdp :p 19:54:45 <FLHerne> "OpenTTD is free and open-source software, licensed under the GNU General Public License version 2.0. OpenTTD is under ongoing development. OpenTTD is not affiliated with the original game's publishers, and "TTD" should not be expanded to "Transport Tycoon Deluxe" which is a trademark of <whoever>" 19:54:59 <FLHerne> I think I prefer this one 19:55:16 <TrueBrain> mentioning something should not be done might not be the best way of wording it 19:55:26 <FLHerne> does not expand to? 19:55:34 <FLHerne> 'does not stand for'? 19:55:36 <TrueBrain> OpenTTD is not an abbreviation of anything 19:55:38 <Samu> rename the game 19:56:05 <FLHerne> Well, "TTD" kind of does 19:56:12 <TrueBrain> "OpenTTD is not affiliated with the original game's publishers and OpenTTD is not an abbreviation of anything."? :D 19:56:29 <TrueBrain> "OpenTTD is not affiliated with the publishers of Transport Tycoon Deluxe and OpenTTD is not an abbreviation of anything."? :D 19:56:42 <FLHerne> Not sure if first one is clear enough 19:56:47 <FLHerne> Second one is kind of funny 19:56:49 <TrueBrain> its a weird thing to say, honestly 19:57:03 <FLHerne> It's self-consciously weird, which is...ok? 19:57:04 <TrueBrain> "OpenTTD is free and open-source software, licensed under the GNU General Public License version 2.0. OpenTTD is under ongoing development. OpenTTD is not an abbreviation of anything." 19:57:12 <FLHerne> It's a weird and silly distinction 19:57:53 <TrueBrain> to be clear, pretty sure no judge will rule in our favour 19:57:59 <TrueBrain> so for me this is ... "lood om oud ijzer" 19:58:02 <FLHerne> "OpenTTD is not an abbreviation of anything, and in particular not of "Transport Tycoon Deluxe" which is a trademark of <whoever>?" 19:58:05 <TrueBrain> euh .. what is the english saying 19:58:16 <FLHerne> I think you might be right really 19:58:39 <TrueBrain> so I am all with you if we can add anything to avoids people calling is Open Transport Tycoon Deluxe 19:58:47 <TrueBrain> but making it all legaly and shit .. I doubt that flies :) 19:58:52 <Samu> rename the game 19:58:56 *** arikover has joined #openttd 19:59:10 <TrueBrain> wow, so many typos in 2 sentences, insane .. what-ever, it is late :P 19:59:11 <FLHerne> Quick, ask andy for a silly name 19:59:27 <Samu> try to find clones of OpenTTD in china 19:59:48 <TrueBrain> I now really want to add "OpenTTD is not an abbreviation of anything", just because it sounds so lovely silly and tongue cheek remark :P 19:59:54 <FLHerne> Pixel Cargo Game Improved 19:59:58 <FLHerne> TrueBrain: +1 20:00:18 <Samu> Open Cargo Transportation Sandbox 20:00:20 <Samu> lel 20:01:34 <TrueBrain> FLHerne: it will be there next time I publish the store page :P 20:01:54 <_dp_> yeye, we even have TTD in capital letters because it's definitely not an abbreviation of anything :p 20:02:09 <TrueBrain> _dp_: whistles innocent :) 20:02:15 <TrueBrain> as I said, it won't fly with any judge, I assume 20:02:28 <TrueBrain> but we are for sure not called Open Transport Tycoon Deluxe, people really should stop doing that 20:03:08 <TrueBrain> I configured pyup to update eints, but it just refuses to do so 20:03:09 <TrueBrain> ugh 20:03:23 <TrueBrain> pyup was really good .. but become more and more ... mediocre ... 20:04:22 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/DorpsGek] TrueBrain updated pull request #42: Scheduled monthly dependency update for February https://git.io/Jt0ta 20:04:33 <TrueBrain> so who wants the boring honor of reviewing 6 update PRs? 20:04:51 <Samu> Need For Speed World revival, from what I read, got a special permission from EA to continue its online services 20:05:01 <Samu> without EA being involved 20:05:03 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/DorpsGek] TrueBrain commented on pull request #42: Scheduled monthly dependency update for February https://git.io/JtEE8 20:06:09 <Samu> not really sure of the whole story, but they're getting away with it, servers are still online, 2 years after 20:06:12 <TrueBrain> https://github.com/TrueBrain/dashboard shows which repos have PRs open .. the ones with "1 open" all need a review :) 20:07:03 <Samu> and the game is full of Copyrights, they're also adding more car brands, im just not sure how legal this is 20:07:14 <Samu> brands exist in real life 20:07:30 <Samu> point is, the servers are still running 20:08:41 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/bananas-api] LordAro approved pull request #81: Scheduled monthly dependency update for February https://git.io/JtEE9 20:08:53 <Samu> they wanna call it Soapbox Race World, but everybody just knows it's Need For Speed World 20:08:59 <Samu> https://soapboxrace.world/ 20:09:07 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/bananas-frontend-web] LordAro approved pull request #53: Scheduled monthly dependency update for February https://git.io/JtEEH 20:09:10 *** milek7_ has quit IRC 20:09:13 *** milek7 has joined #openttd 20:09:30 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/bananas-server] LordAro approved pull request #41: Scheduled monthly dependency update for February https://git.io/JtEEQ 20:09:33 <TrueBrain> w00p, a volunteer :D 20:09:49 <Samu> they have at the bottom this notice: 20:09:51 <LordAro> i'm just pressing approve 20:09:52 <LordAro> :p 20:09:53 <Samu> This project is not affiliated with Electronic Arts or the Need for Speed™ brand in any way, shape or form. Need for Speed is a trademark of Electronic Arts. 20:10:05 <TrueBrain> lol, and your approval even isn't enough in some cases it seems :P 20:10:11 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/DorpsGek] LordAro approved pull request #42: Scheduled monthly dependency update for February https://git.io/JtEEF 20:10:27 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/bananas-frontend-web] TrueBrain merged pull request #53: Scheduled monthly dependency update for February https://git.io/Jt0Lx 20:10:45 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/bananas-server] TrueBrain merged pull request #41: Scheduled monthly dependency update for February https://git.io/Jt0tG 20:11:10 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/DorpsGek] TrueBrain merged pull request #42: Scheduled monthly dependency update for February https://git.io/Jt0ta 20:11:28 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/master-server] LordAro approved pull request #24: Scheduled monthly dependency update for February https://git.io/JtEEh 20:12:03 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/master-server] TrueBrain merged pull request #24: Scheduled monthly dependency update for February https://git.io/Jt0qZ 20:12:16 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/master-server-web] LordAro approved pull request #19: Scheduled monthly dependency update for February https://git.io/JtEuv 20:13:01 <TrueBrain> and the last one is most interesting LordAro .. it is not another type of update! :P 20:13:07 <TrueBrain> -not 20:16:46 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/website] TrueBrain commented on pull request #190: Add: News about OpenTTD on Steam https://git.io/JtEuG 20:17:00 <_dp_> on a completely unrelated note, starship seems to be launching in about 10 mins 20:17:08 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/bananas-api] TrueBrain merged pull request #81: Scheduled monthly dependency update for February https://git.io/Jt0Lz 20:17:22 <TrueBrain> Starship? 20:17:33 <TrueBrain> btw, Dyson Sphere Program is awesome :D 20:17:34 <FLHerne> Big shiny rocket 20:17:51 <FLHerne> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfHqbahPKpY 20:17:55 <TrueBrain> cheers 20:18:09 <LordAro> surprised there's no official livestream 20:18:22 <FLHerne> (yes, they have a backup big shiny rocket for when this one blows up like the last one) 20:18:36 <FLHerne> For scale, it's 9m wide and about 50m tall 20:19:58 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/master-server-web] TrueBrain merged pull request #19: Scheduled monthly dependency update for February https://git.io/Jt0qV 20:20:45 <FLHerne> Big american trucks for scale: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Es_sBXgXcAIPJhH?format=jpg&name=orig 20:21:22 <Samu> who did the review for the code about group gui? there's some weird stuff there 20:21:45 <Samu> const Vehicle *v = nullptr; 20:21:50 <TrueBrain> you want a pitchfork with that? 20:22:02 <Samu> (random code what to do with v) 20:22:04 <Samu> then suddenly 20:22:16 <Samu> if (v) { do stuff } 20:22:28 <milek7> Samu: seems fine? 20:22:28 <Samu> if (v) ? 20:22:37 <Samu> it's really weird 20:22:59 <LordAro> Samu: link to line? 20:23:14 <Samu> 753, group_gui.cpp 20:26:02 <frosch123> TrueBrain: is valve done with the review? 20:26:07 <TrueBrain> frosch123: yup 20:26:15 <TrueBrain> all green, set to release on 1st of April :) 20:26:25 <TrueBrain> hence the news post :D 20:26:41 <frosch123> yes, exactly why i am asking :) 20:26:45 <TrueBrain> :D 20:26:59 <TrueBrain> I didn't want to post before it was all green, but clearly we think the same there :D 20:27:22 <TrueBrain> their game review process is funny btw .. "we didn't do macOS because covid" :) 20:27:36 <TrueBrain> it is good they check if games are actually .. you know .. games 20:27:56 <frosch123> how does release on 1st april work? do we tag/build on 31 march? or does 1.10.3 become available for some hours? 20:28:12 <TrueBrain> I planned it for 12:00 GMT on the 1st of April 20:28:20 <TrueBrain> I can delay that till 20:00 or something 20:28:39 <TrueBrain> so my idea was to just release it on the 1st, and by then it should auto-publish on Steam too :P 20:28:50 <TrueBrain> (I have yet to write that part, but .. it should be fine before that time) 20:29:54 <frosch123> i think the "someone else is asking money for ottd on some store" is weird to put into a newspost 20:31:01 <frosch123> stating it as "others put it on stores, updating at random times" would be a positive statement 20:31:08 <TrueBrain> good point 20:33:49 <frosch123> who knows, maybe it was CS :p 20:34:28 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/website] TrueBrain updated pull request #190: Add: News about OpenTTD on Steam https://git.io/JtEBW 20:34:29 <TrueBrain> how about this? 20:34:50 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/website] TrueBrain updated pull request #190: Add: News about OpenTTD on Steam https://git.io/JtEBW 20:34:58 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/website] TrueBrain updated pull request #190: Add: News about OpenTTD on Steam https://git.io/JtEBW 20:34:59 <TrueBrain> ugh, proof-read-before-commit 20:35:20 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/nml] LordAro merged pull request #187: Fix/silence warning from flake8-bugbear. https://git.io/Jt4VY 20:35:27 <TrueBrain> last one :P 20:35:28 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/website] TrueBrain updated pull request #190: Add: News about OpenTTD on Steam https://git.io/JtEBW 20:36:00 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/website] TrueBrain updated pull request #190: Add: News about OpenTTD on Steam https://git.io/JtEBW 20:36:23 <TrueBrain> I lied :P 20:36:32 <frosch123> what was the magic word? --more ? 20:37:05 <TrueBrain> HTML comment "more" 20:37:06 <frosch123> <!-- more --> 20:37:26 <TrueBrain> but in this post, that is a bit annoying .. as the important part is halfway down the news post :P 20:37:46 <TrueBrain> I wouldn't know where to add "more" in this post :P 20:37:49 <frosch123> isn't the title enough? :p 20:38:14 <TrueBrain> basically what you are saying is: you wrote too much 20:38:16 <TrueBrain> fineeeeeee :D 20:38:19 <frosch123> after "but times are changing, and so is our hair" 20:40:52 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/website] TrueBrain updated pull request #190: Add: News about OpenTTD on Steam https://git.io/JtEBW 20:40:55 <TrueBrain> okay, added an extra sentence, how about this? 20:41:14 *** Wuzzy has quit IRC 20:42:26 <TrueBrain> I did not mention the release date in the first sentence .. not sure that is wise 20:42:27 <TrueBrain> but it is funny :P 20:42:35 <TrueBrain> it is mentioned on the Steam page anyway 20:43:52 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/DorpsGek] TrueBrain created new tag: 2.0.1 https://git.io/JtEz6 20:44:03 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/bananas-server] TrueBrain created new tag: 1.1.1 https://git.io/JtEzP 20:44:29 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/bananas-frontend-web] TrueBrain created new tag: 1.0.8 https://git.io/JtEzD 20:44:47 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/master-server] TrueBrain created new tag: 1.0.9 https://git.io/JtEzy 20:44:57 <TrueBrain> 2 more tags to go after these are deployed ... 20:45:11 <TrueBrain> it is easier, monthly updates, it is still boring as fuck :P 20:45:23 <LordAro> automate it! :p 20:45:33 <TrueBrain> would require end-to-end checks ... 20:45:40 <TrueBrain> not impossible, but that requires automating OpenTTD itself 20:45:45 <LordAro> hehe 20:46:00 <TrueBrain> not impossible with console commands honestly 20:46:04 <TrueBrain> so yeah, that is possible 20:46:12 *** DorpsGek` has joined #openttd 20:46:13 *** DorpsGek is now known as Guest12130 20:46:13 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o DorpsGek` 20:46:13 *** Guest12130 is now known as DorpsGek 20:46:13 *** DorpsGek` has quit IRC 20:46:13 *** DorpsGek has quit IRC 20:46:13 *** DorpsGek has joined #openttd 20:46:13 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o DorpsGek 20:46:14 *** DorpsGek` has joined #openttd 20:46:15 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o DorpsGek` 20:46:15 *** DorpsGek is now known as Guest12131 20:46:15 *** DorpsGek` is now known as DorpsGek 20:46:27 *** DorpsGek is now known as Guest12132 20:46:27 *** Guest12131 is now known as DorpsGek 20:46:27 *** Guest12132 has quit IRC 20:46:27 *** DorpsGek has quit IRC 20:46:27 *** DorpsGek has joined #openttd 20:46:28 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o DorpsGek 20:46:28 *** DorpsGek` has joined #openttd 20:46:28 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o DorpsGek` 20:46:29 *** DorpsGek is now known as Guest12133 20:46:29 *** DorpsGek` is now known as DorpsGek 20:46:32 <TrueBrain> wuth, they are still fighting? 20:46:35 <LordAro> oops 20:46:45 *** DorpsGek is now known as Guest12134 20:46:45 *** Guest12133 is now known as DorpsGek 20:46:45 *** Guest12134 has quit IRC 20:46:45 *** DorpsGek has quit IRC 20:46:46 *** DorpsGek has joined #openttd 20:46:47 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o DorpsGek 20:47:11 <TrueBrain> I was sure I fixed that .. sorry about that 20:47:16 *** DorpsGek` has joined #openttd 20:47:16 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o DorpsGek` 20:47:17 *** DorpsGek is now known as Guest12135 20:47:17 *** DorpsGek` is now known as DorpsGek 20:47:20 *** DorpsGek is now known as Guest12136 20:47:20 *** Guest12136 is now known as DorpsGek 20:47:20 *** Guest12135 has quit IRC 20:47:20 *** DorpsGek has quit IRC 20:47:21 *** DorpsGek has joined #openttd 20:47:21 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o DorpsGek 20:47:32 *** DorpsGek has quit IRC 20:48:02 *** DorpsGek has joined #openttd 20:48:02 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o DorpsGek 20:48:47 <TrueBrain> Cannot believe that happened AGAIN :P 20:49:02 <TrueBrain> @whoami 20:49:03 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: TrueBrain 20:49:06 <TrueBrain> can you behave now? 20:50:09 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 20:50:43 <TrueBrain> funny enough, it tols me this 10 times in 3 seconds: "WARNING Refusing to send GHOST more than once every 60 seconds." 20:50:45 <TrueBrain> clearly, it did not :P 20:50:51 <milek7> bot went rogue? :P 20:53:38 <TrueBrain> and it now refuses to talk in this channel, that is also funny :D 20:56:03 <LordAro> @oi, you 20:57:06 <TrueBrain> let me just restart it, honestly 20:57:19 <TrueBrain> the logs also got corrupted .. seems both wanted to write what we wrote while they went crazy :D 20:57:32 *** DorpsGek has quit IRC 20:57:34 *** DorpsGek has joined #openttd 20:57:34 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o DorpsGek 20:57:38 <TrueBrain> the idea was that never more than one was alive ... but I clearly failed to do that properly 20:59:08 <TrueBrain> okay, a restart of MasterServer did not help anything .. hmm ... means I need to add some debug statements to figure out what it is doing 20:59:12 <TrueBrain> or maybe just metrics 21:01:39 <frosch123> how much data is it to log every received advertisement? 21:01:59 <TrueBrain> 300 servers, announcement every 15 minutes, so 4 per hour, 1200 entries, I would guestimate 21:02:01 <TrueBrain> make it 2000 21:02:40 <frosch123> i would claim it's a single server causing the problem, so that may help find it 21:02:52 <TrueBrain> hmm .. DorpsGek is still not announcing here 21:02:52 <TrueBrain> wtf 21:02:54 <frosch123> maybe someone patched fast-forward for servers, and increased the interval to 5 seconds :p 21:03:11 <TrueBrain> AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'decode' 21:03:32 <TrueBrain> right, guess I should fix DorpsGek first 21:03:58 <TrueBrain> btw, frosch123 , any other feedback on the news post? 21:05:15 <frosch123> content is fine. i would have used different prepositons in various places, but that's english' problem :p 21:05:55 <frosch123> oh dear, you copied the "hair" thing :/ 21:06:01 <TrueBrain> it was funny! :P 21:06:09 <TrueBrain> and please feel free to correct any of these 21:07:33 <TrueBrain> (the PR is made from a branch in OpenTTD/website, so you can just edit it if you don't mind :D) 21:08:08 <frosch123> did you use the webeditor? 21:08:20 <TrueBrain> yes 21:11:15 <TrueBrain> [OpenTTD/DorpsGek] TTrueBrain opened pull request #43: Two bugs that appeared after the last bump https://git.io/JtEgd 21:11:21 <TrueBrain> TTTTTTTruebrain 21:11:33 <LordAro> wut 21:11:35 <TrueBrain> (copy/paste error, nothing to worry about :P) 21:11:54 <LordAro> oh, it was you :p 21:12:04 <glx> someone used @say ? 21:12:23 <TrueBrain> you think people can use @say on me? 21:12:23 <TrueBrain> brrr 21:12:48 <glx> oh silly me, I though it was DorpsGek 21:12:53 <TrueBrain> now the next release is also going to cause a bot-fight, but lets see if I can be clever about that :D 21:15:58 *** DorpsGek has quit IRC 21:16:27 *** DorpsGek has joined #openttd 21:16:27 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o DorpsGek 21:16:31 <TrueBrain> that was a bit nicer :P 21:17:04 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/website] frosch123 updated pull request #190: Add: News about OpenTTD on Steam https://git.io/JtEBW 21:17:16 <TrueBrain> tada! 21:17:25 <TrueBrain> I did not fix the other problem sufficiently, but okay, for another time 21:18:16 <TrueBrain> thank you frosch123 :) 21:18:40 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/website] frosch123 approved pull request #190: Add: News about OpenTTD on Steam https://git.io/JtE23 21:19:16 <TrueBrain> text in the comment is okay? 21:19:30 <frosch123> i would also add a "on" there :p 21:19:36 <TrueBrain> edit it plzzz :D 21:19:40 <frosch123> but no idea, blame english :p 21:20:13 <TrueBrain> ah, I had that initially, but removed it as it felt wrong :P 21:20:18 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] SamuXarick updated pull request #8640: Fix: Missing or needed spaces https://git.io/JtElw 21:20:31 <frosch123> maybe it's wrong now :) 21:20:34 <TrueBrain> well, guess I have a ton of social media stuff to do in a sec :D 21:21:14 <frosch123> duplicating the entire news history into a youtube community discussion with polls on each? 21:21:33 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 21:22:38 <TrueBrain> go for it :P 21:23:02 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/website] TrueBrain merged pull request #190: Add: News about OpenTTD on Steam https://git.io/JtEBW 21:23:44 *** otetede has quit IRC 21:32:14 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/website] TrueBrain created new tag: 1.4.16 https://git.io/JtEav 21:54:25 *** Samu has quit IRC 21:58:21 <TrueBrain> okay, I did all the socials 21:58:23 <TrueBrain> it is now official 21:58:30 <TrueBrain> let the shitstorm begin :P 21:58:52 <LordAro> :o 21:59:34 <TrueBrain> yeah ... this has a high chance of blowing up :P 21:59:42 <TrueBrain> but ... we have to go through that some day :P 22:00:09 <TrueBrain> it is already retweeted more than the 1.11 beta annoucement 22:00:22 <TrueBrain> right .. I don't have hackernews ... 22:00:29 <TrueBrain> the only one missing really .. well .. what-ever :P 22:00:51 <LordAro> you don't have to fully manage the social medias :p 22:01:07 <LordAro> some of it you can let other people share :p 22:01:31 <TrueBrain> :D 22:05:56 <TrueBrain> frosch123: well, indeed, a single IP doing a shitstorm of REGISTERs 22:06:05 <TrueBrain> 4 every second or so 22:06:22 *** Progman has quit IRC 22:07:09 <TrueBrain> now to find out how to contact that person 22:09:19 <TrueBrain> for now, an IP ban (AWS-wide) 22:10:06 <LordAro> TrueBrain: is that the master-server traffic? 22:10:11 <TrueBrain> yes 22:10:27 <LordAro> how odd 22:11:23 <TrueBrain> I think his server is cycling 22:11:33 <TrueBrain> but that is just a wild guess, honestly 22:13:15 <frosch123> current theory: game says "restart in year 3000". in-game date is "2999-12-31" 22:13:35 <frosch123> so it probably runs in a cycle: load savegame on 2999-12-31. run a day, exit, repeat 22:14:11 <TrueBrain> yeah ... that fits perfectly with what I am seeing honestly 22:15:47 <TrueBrain> mostly, looking at the server in question etc, it doesn't seem like a deliberate thing 22:15:54 <TrueBrain> now the question .. is this something we should fix in OpenTTD 22:15:58 <TrueBrain> or consider it so rare, that it doesn't matter 22:16:26 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 22:17:03 <TrueBrain> wow, that IP ban did its job for sure 22:17:22 <TrueBrain> https://pasteboard.co/JMydYNa.png 22:17:53 <glx> immediate drop 22:18:21 <TrueBrain> right, let me minimize the IP ban to the master-server port only 22:18:57 <LordAro> nice. 22:24:53 <TrueBrain> crazy how many people don't take 1th of April serious 22:25:00 <TrueBrain> 12 years later, and people still think we are joking around :P 22:25:50 <Timberwolf> Maybe this is the solution to the issue tracker problem. Gate the Create Issue button behind "on what day of the year is a new version of OpenTTD traditionally released?" 22:27:04 <TrueBrain> evil :D 22:30:53 <TrueBrain> _dp_: there is something missing in the server listing, and I wonder if you can find out what :D Some hints: there used to be many, there are now 2 (and soon zero). 22:30:53 <LordAro> :D 22:32:04 <TrueBrain> and yes, this is a riddle :P 22:34:57 <frosch123> don't spoil the solution 22:35:35 <TrueBrain> he can PM me his solution :D 22:35:57 <TrueBrain> well, lets put it this way: I have something special for anyone who can solve my riddle :P Just PM me, and you get a present ! 22:36:10 <frosch123> a kick? 22:36:13 <TrueBrain> no no 22:36:14 <TrueBrain> a real present! 22:36:24 <TrueBrain> I for once have something I can give people :) 22:36:29 <TrueBrain> (well, OpenTTD related) 22:36:45 <frosch123> ah. i have an idea, but i think it's no use for me 22:36:53 <TrueBrain> it is of no use to you :) 22:39:59 <_dp_> I was gonna answer without even looking but chat became weird :/ 22:41:03 <TrueBrain> you can say no to the present, no worries :) 22:42:24 <TrueBrain> OpenTTD is wishlisted 584 times, and removed from wishlist 4 times :P 22:42:25 <TrueBrain> hihi 22:42:34 <LordAro> heh 22:45:19 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/DorpsGek] TrueBrain opened pull request #44: Fix: logs can also break if the timestamp cannot be found https://git.io/JtErB 22:46:03 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/DorpsGek] LordAro approved pull request #44: Fix: logs can also break if the timestamp cannot be found https://git.io/JtErE 22:46:30 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/DorpsGek] TrueBrain merged pull request #44: Fix: logs can also break if the timestamp cannot be found https://git.io/JtErB 22:46:59 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/DorpsGek] TrueBrain created new tag: 2.0.3 https://git.io/JtErV 22:47:04 <TrueBrain> lets see if this really fixes it .. 22:48:13 *** DorpsGek has quit IRC 22:49:07 *** DorpsGek has joined #openttd 22:49:07 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o DorpsGek 22:52:04 <TrueBrain> _dp_: zero has been reached :) 22:52:54 <frosch123> night 22:52:57 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 22:53:33 <_dp_> yaaay 22:54:01 <TrueBrain> you don't want a present? Awh :P 22:55:19 *** gelignite has quit IRC 23:08:06 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 23:08:09 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro approved pull request #8640: Fix: Missing or needed spaces https://git.io/JtEo4 23:18:37 *** arikover has quit IRC 23:51:58 *** iSoSyS has joined #openttd 23:56:28 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 23:58:09 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 23:58:32 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd