Log for #openttd on 18th March 2021:
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00:00:04  <TrueBrain> but I think I can do a bit better, by making the drift-check not based on count, but on time
00:00:16  <TrueBrain> so basically, it sleeps for 2ms
00:00:21  <TrueBrain> gameloop notices it missed N frames
00:00:23  <TrueBrain> it catches up
00:00:27  <TrueBrain> sleeps again for 2ms
00:00:31  <TrueBrain> makes a very unstable gamespeed
00:00:39  <TrueBrain> but .. at least it is not spinlocking like a mofo
00:01:20  <TrueBrain> I now allow this drift for 5 frames .. but .. 5 frames of 80us
00:01:25  <TrueBrain> is still greatly smaller than 2ms :D
00:02:27  <TrueBrain> currently, if the drift is more than 5 frames, it just says: what-ever, I am going to act like I will make my deadlines from now on! :P
00:03:09  <TrueBrain> basically, for Windows, at a certain point we just have to forget about sleep_for :P
00:03:44  <TrueBrain> I will see if I can make a nice fix for this this weekend .. difficult problem
00:06:06  <TrueBrain> oops, WIN32 -> _WIN32 for my fix
00:13:42  <TrueBrain> well, with my patch you can get to ~400x at 50k% (max)
00:13:49  <TrueBrain> better, not good :)
00:14:07  <TrueBrain> now: zzz
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01:56:02  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/wiki-data] wyphan opened pull request #9: Update Installation.mediawiki
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07:07:50  <andythenorth> yo
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08:22:52  <LordAro> yoy
08:23:05  <andythenorth> what if there was a way to mark newgrf action 2 chain as safe to cache?
08:23:08  <andythenorth> like a TTL
08:23:34  <andythenorth> e.g. as author I know that some vehicles will change appearance when built in depot, but never again
08:23:44  <andythenorth> others need to change only when loading / unloading
08:24:09  <andythenorth> or if I could cache some persistent storage, I could avoid running complex varact 2 on every paint
08:24:47  <andythenorth> in crude tests, Horse is 30% slower to draw than vanilla vehicles, and some of the stupid things I do are 60% slower
08:24:56  <andythenorth> using ffwd as a measure
08:29:52  <NGC3982> im so hungry
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08:52:08  <LordAro> andythenorth: would need actual profiling, but doesn't seem like a bad idea
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09:24:53  <Timberwolf> I think JGR was trying that, it has a list of possible triggers that could cause an action 2 chain to need re-resolving.
09:25:03  <peter1138> FML. I need to get back out on the bike, A LOT.
09:25:03  <Timberwolf> It's global and not profiled per GRF/vehicle though.
09:25:23  <peter1138> Trouser issue :/
09:27:07  <peter1138> Also shut up, tummy.
09:32:04  <andythenorth> mine talks a lot
09:32:08  <andythenorth> about wanting hula hoops
09:33:34  * andythenorth time for all-day-video-calls
09:33:36  <andythenorth> modern life
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09:35:55  <TrueBrain> <- funny, transparent sponsorship
09:46:40  <peter1138> I worked out how to make the OpenTTD website look a bit more modern.
09:46:59  <peter1138> Just zoom it in to make everything massive.
09:52:00  <LordAro> it does feel a bit obnoxious, doesn't it?
09:58:43  <Timberwolf> You need at least one element that never loads because the microservice it talks to is down or over capacity.
10:06:17  <NGC3982> the openttd site is quite modern
10:14:11  <Timberwolf> Oh, and desktop notifications. That's an important aspect of modern design, you need to wait until someone's in the middle of concentrating on something and surprise them with a sudden, "*bling-tink!* OpenTTD has published a new article!"
10:15:55  <peter1138> And requesting your location.
10:23:47  <NGC3982> that is a horrible invention
10:26:15  <peter1138>
10:34:22  <Timberwolf>
10:34:31  <Timberwolf> Mouse fail.
10:34:33  <peter1138> Exactly
10:34:34  <peter1138> :D
10:36:37  <Wolf01> It's really nice, but it's about the 5th time they submit one and does not pass the 10k or is not selected after getting to it
10:37:54  <peter1138> They?
10:38:04  <Wolf01> People
10:38:21  <peter1138> Yeah. This person did one before but it was somewhat monstrous.
10:39:40  <Wolf01> The one in the last batch was perfect, but it was discarded (along with the other 35 creations which passed)
10:40:52  <Wolf01> The main problem is getting the rights, and iirc Pratchet's family is not giving rights anyone
10:42:16  <peter1138> Okay, I won't share models I think are cute. And I'll just vote Tory next time because everyone else does.
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11:39:57  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/wiki-data] glx22 commented on pull request #9: Update Installation.mediawiki
11:40:00  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/wiki-data] glx22 closed pull request #9: Update Installation.mediawiki
12:09:46  <peter1138> Derp.
12:10:20  <peter1138> Feeling peckish, decide packet of crisps is too much for a snack, so have a Krisproll instead. Except slavered with marmite peanut butter, so oops.
12:10:28  <peter1138> And THEN... oh right, it's lunch time anyway, nearly.
12:17:30  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenMSX] Wuzzy2 opened issue #17: Verify MIDI files
12:27:58  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenMSX] Wuzzy2 opened issue #18: Evaluate the music that has been submitted since 0.3.1
12:52:39  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] ldpl commented on issue #8871: SDL2/Linux: OpenGL: Window sometimes filled with unitialised pixels at startup
12:54:47  <peter1138> Heh, that's cool
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13:06:20  <peter1138> how confident do you feel in using each of these systems:
13:06:21  <peter1138> Hmmm
13:06:37  <peter1138> Are they asking how I *feel* about using them?
13:07:14  <peter1138> Is "I'm not confident using this program because I know it inside out and it's a heap of shit" a 1 or a 10?
13:07:29  <LordAro> :D
13:07:34  <LordAro> probably a 10
13:08:31  <peter1138> How confident am I at using Powerpoint or Word?
13:08:51  <peter1138> Well... I mean, I never have to use them becuase I have superior alternatives, such as plain text files.
13:33:36  <Eddi|zuHause> if you apply dunning-kruger, confidence is probably inversely proportional to proficience
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14:29:54  <supermop_Home> Eddi|zuHause what if you are confident that you understand your own lack of ability
14:30:14  <Eddi|zuHause> the universe implodes
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14:44:54  <Wolf01> I am totally confident that I understand my severe lacking of ability in almost all fields, still try to do something
14:45:43  <Wolf01> The problem is when people get angry because I'm not able to do it as they want
14:47:02  <Wolf01> The worst problem is when I get angry about the same reason, and I knew it in advance
14:47:21  <Timberwolf> Anyone else ever work in an office where half your co-workers would send you screenshots by pasting them into a Word document and then e-mailing them, or was that just me?
14:47:36  <Wolf01> No, it's the normal way
14:48:20  <Wolf01> Because you can open the document and enlarge the screenshot then...
14:48:30  <Wolf01> Maybe before printing it
14:48:47  <Wolf01> (specially in black and white)
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15:02:29  <Venemo> Timberwolf: hey, just wanted to thank you for making the UK road vehicles set, it is lovely. I'm curious, would you consider releasing a version of it that supports 4x zoom levels?
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15:35:11  <Timberwolf> I did that with v2 but the models aren't really good enough to support 4x, you just start seeing voxel jaggies rather than pixel jaggies.
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15:42:35  <Venemo> ah
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16:40:08  <Venemo> Timberwolf: I just took a quick look at v2, I admit it's not perfectly smooth but it does look a lot better zoomed in than v3
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16:51:12  <Venemo> also, different question, where can I reach the CZTR guys?
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18:47:31  <andythenorth> yo
18:52:15  <supermop_Home> yo
18:52:40  <supermop_Home> somehow its taking me like 20 hours to add icons to purchase menu sprites
18:57:42  <andythenorth> that sounds valid
18:57:51  <andythenorth> I take 20 hours to choose a train name sometimes
18:58:36  <supermop_Home> of course it took completely reformatting my sprites, and the nomenclature for my pngs
18:59:10  <supermop_Home> i think i still do not have a plant fiber truck
18:59:17  <supermop_Home> better add that while im at it
19:04:05  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] DorpsGek pushed 1 commits to master
19:04:06  <DorpsGek>   - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)
19:05:48  <andythenorth> interesting
19:17:44  <andythenorth> should we discuss my newgrf alternative var 41 on the livestream?
19:17:50  <andythenorth> the one with the massive loop unroll?
19:18:05  <andythenorth> that seems to reduce performance by 50% or some similar number
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20:53:42  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler opened issue #8873: GUI sprites incorrectly affected by setting to limit NewGRF sprite resolution
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21:44:44  <TrueBrain> Timberwolf: your Discord handle also Timberwolf?
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21:57:39  <Timberwolf> Usually.
21:57:54  <TrueBrain> before I assign permissions to a random stranger :P
21:57:58  <Timberwolf> Heh.
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22:13:50  <TrueBrain> frosch123: sunday evening test-run for livestream? Just to make sure your new webcam etc works :P
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22:23:54  <frosch123> sure, do we have that video proxy again?
22:24:03  <TrueBrain> Yup
22:24:27  <TrueBrain> At least, didn't ask, just assuming :D
22:25:39  <TrueBrain> Checked, we can :)
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