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00:11:00 *** Gustavo6046_ has joined #openttd 00:13:41 *** iSoSyS has joined #openttd 00:14:58 *** Gustavo6046 has quit IRC 00:15:06 *** Gustavo6046_ is now known as Gustavo6046 00:52:01 *** iSoSyS has quit IRC 02:09:01 *** Wuzzy has joined #openttd 02:28:32 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 02:54:54 *** debdog has joined #openttd 02:58:18 *** D-HUND has quit IRC 03:49:37 *** glx has quit IRC 04:15:17 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 05:45:52 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 06:04:21 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 06:17:58 *** EER has joined #openttd 06:19:46 *** dwfreed has quit IRC 06:19:47 *** dwfreed has joined #openttd 06:36:48 <andythenorth> yo 06:48:17 <Rubidium> 'lo 07:13:13 *** rexxars has quit IRC 07:26:34 <LordAro> is morn? 07:27:31 <andythenorth> si 07:27:33 <andythenorth> is 07:46:27 *** rexxars has joined #openttd 07:47:49 <TrueBrain> in case we ever want to add telemetry in OpenTTD, this seems to be a generic response of the public to it: https://github.com/audacity/audacity/pull/835 :D 07:57:07 <LordAro> oh dear 07:58:02 <TrueBrain> consensus seems to be: automated crash-reports: fine 07:58:09 <TrueBrain> anonymous telemetry opt-in, ... if you have to 07:58:19 <TrueBrain> "UUID" based "anonymous" telemetry opt-out: FUCK NO 07:58:25 <TrueBrain> via Google: EEUUUUHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 07:58:31 <TrueBrain> :D 07:59:12 <TrueBrain> automated crash reports is high on my list btw .. as the crash reports we are currently getting are not that useful :P 08:00:54 <Tulitomaatti> :D 08:08:40 <peter1138> That isn't "basic" telemetry by any means. 08:14:32 <TrueBrain> neither "anonymous" :P 08:17:29 <andythenorth> fuck yes Audacity needs telemetry 08:17:33 <andythenorth> the mac port is barely functional 08:17:45 <andythenorth> sorry, am I off-topic :P 08:17:51 * andythenorth gets coat 08:17:55 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 08:24:08 <peter1138> Let's put telemetry on andythenorth 08:26:02 <peter1138> The opengl pixel buffer, is it possible for that to become visible while it's still being filled? 08:26:56 <peter1138> I'm fairly sure opengl does not refresh a 'scene' by itself, but... weird behaviour is observed. 08:42:08 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: that somebody had the audacity to create that PR 08:43:42 <TrueBrain> ..... really? you went there? reallllyyyy??? :P 08:48:36 <TrueBrain> okay, my work of yesterday makes at least 1 of my commits a lot more trivial .. now lets see what the others do :P 08:49:49 <Rubidium> conflict & silently break things? 08:50:16 <TrueBrain> I have 2 ctor overloads: one with A, B, C and one with A, B 08:50:22 <TrueBrain> can I call the latter from the first somehow? 08:50:28 <TrueBrain> it is not working how I expected :P 08:54:12 <TrueBrain> https://godbolt.org/z/xY8E64o5n <- for some reason I expected that to work 08:55:29 <TrueBrain> nevermind ... 08:55:35 <TrueBrain> connecter vs connector is still an issue 09:07:00 *** Samu has joined #openttd 09:09:21 <peter1138> Ah... so https://www.audacityteam.org/audacity-musescore-announcement/ 09:11:19 <TrueBrain> "We’re scared and excited. " <- turns out, mostly scared :P 09:13:23 <Rubidium> seriously... they make it too easy. That's an announcement of a crook; I wouldn't trust it at all 09:18:03 <TrueBrain> std::string_view is a bit infectious ... once a few functions go, a lot have to follow :P 09:18:14 <TrueBrain> or of course you can cast it to std::string, but .. yeah .. why would tou if you don't have to? 09:19:17 <TrueBrain> dbg: [misc] Failed to resolve DNS for ���lvU <- lol 09:21:48 <TrueBrain> you do have to copy it some day, ofc :D Ghehe 09:41:03 <peter1138> Also, can confirm, switching to std::clamp is a pain. 09:42:29 <TrueBrain> and my STUN branch compiles again .. pff .. we should stop doing this :P But it is getting smaller each time, so I guess it is worth it .. 09:42:50 <peter1138> :D 09:42:54 <TrueBrain> now I can finally fix the problem I found 24 hours ago .. just to not have time today to do that :D 09:43:17 <peter1138> Does it add telemetry? 09:43:41 <TrueBrain> in a sense, and this is an honest answer, it does 09:44:05 <TrueBrain> the Game Coordinator can see how many clients connect to how many servers, what versions they run, and how their network connection looks 09:44:25 <TrueBrain> and I will keep stats of that .. well ... % of people that used direct-connect, STUN or TURN 09:44:31 <TrueBrain> like .. truly anonymous information :) 09:44:36 <TrueBrain> like .. a counter :P 09:44:53 *** smoke_fumus has joined #openttd 09:45:52 <TrueBrain> https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/commit/c9ee2d564454c562e5cb40f9180cc9930324218e <- old commit 09:45:56 <TrueBrain> https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/commit/e3b51cf768a87644943c3312ae05c29d7c39b91d <- new commit 09:46:02 <TrueBrain> guess the rebase was worth it 09:49:17 *** Speedy` has joined #openttd 09:50:47 <peter1138> No wonder I keep running out of instant coffee. This one is going to give me a hairy chest. 09:51:18 <peter1138> TrueBrain, that is a side-effect of what it does, rather than it's purpose. 09:51:22 <peter1138> *its 09:51:33 <peter1138> Well, keeping stats isn't but ... 09:51:48 <peter1138> Just don't feed it into Google and Yandex... 09:53:43 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 09:53:55 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 10:09:59 <TrueBrain> peter1138: haha, fuck no, I rather rage quit before I do that :) 10:24:18 <_dp_> out of curiosity checked chunk size and comperession ratios: https://pastebin.com/raw/hiC2PcLF 10:26:40 <_dp_> compressed size is by compressing them separately so it's not exactly as it's in the savegame but should be fine indication of how well it compresses on its own 10:26:58 <peter1138> OBID :D 10:27:15 <_dp_> yeah, that's just half a megabyte of zeros :p 10:29:05 <peter1138> Is there an issue with that one? The other ID tables are not anywhere near as large... 10:29:19 <_dp_> yeah, kinda is 10:29:36 <_dp_> it just dumps all 64k items regardless if they're used or not 10:30:21 <_dp_> in fact this whole check was largely motivated by OBID as I wanted to see if there are any other chunks like it 10:30:42 <peter1138> The saveload code for them is the save though. 10:31:52 <peter1138> *same 10:32:56 <Rubidium> I guess the number of houses, airport tiles and industries that can be mapped is much smaller 10:34:41 <peter1138> Ah you are correct. They are varied in length so I thougt it was doing a sparse save. 10:35:15 <Rubidium> airport tiles: 258, airports: 128, house: 512, industries: 240, industry tiles: 512 10:35:31 <_dp_> here's the script if someone wants to check other saves: https://pastebin.com/PZnZGLZX 10:35:43 <peter1138> Looking at the code, it clearly COULD do a sparse save. 10:35:54 <peter1138> SlSetArrayIndex(i) is the first call. 10:37:27 <peter1138> CheckValidNewID is protected, argh 10:38:54 <Rubidium> yeah, you see the same for ATID, APID, HIDS, IIDS and TIDS; lots of compression 10:39:19 <Rubidium> though probably that will create huge ratios like SUBS has ;) 10:39:52 <peter1138> Ah, that doesn't test the right thing anyway. Hmm. 10:43:18 <_dp_> for small chunks huge ratios are not relevant 10:43:37 <_dp_> since it compresses them anew and includes header, etc 10:44:16 <peter1138> Still pointlessly compressing 384000 bytes. 10:45:07 <_dp_> yeah, that's a waste 10:47:09 <Rubidium> I guess we didn't spot that 14 years ago with the newhouses branch merge 10:54:45 <peter1138> Actually that's just the data, there's also the array index, which fortunately seems to compress quite well. 10:55:15 <peter1138> I'll make a PR at lunch :) 10:55:31 <peter1138> Then that line should be another 5600% or something, heh 10:56:04 <peter1138> I just lost a browser window. Turns out I was... looking at it. 10:56:42 <LordAro> 👍 11:01:37 <peter1138> That's the kettle descaled again. Next mug might taste a bit like fish & chips... 11:05:58 *** rexxars has quit IRC 11:12:29 *** rexxars has joined #openttd 11:39:56 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #9202: Codechange: Don't save unused NewGRF override mappings. https://git.io/J3yTe 11:46:37 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 commented on pull request #9202: Codechange: Don't save unused NewGRF override mappings. https://git.io/J3ykl 11:51:47 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on pull request #9202: Codechange: Don't save unused NewGRF override mappings. https://git.io/J3yIZ 11:53:22 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN updated pull request #9202: Codechange: Don't save unused NewGRF override mappings. https://git.io/J3yTe 12:09:59 <peter1138> Mind you everything seems to work without the mappings being saved. I guess it's to do with entities changing with NewGRF updates, but... 12:16:42 *** glx has joined #openttd 12:16:42 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 12:19:31 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 12:19:39 <andythenorth> got this weird feeling I'm being watched 12:19:45 <andythenorth> anyway, was it lunch? 12:22:58 <peter1138> No. 12:23:49 <andythenorth> oh 12:23:54 <andythenorth> I had a bacon sandwich 12:23:54 <Tulitomaatti> i wish it was the second lunch. 12:23:58 <andythenorth> was that incorrect? 12:24:48 <peter1138> Everything is just snack time. 12:25:10 <LordAro> pulled pork sandwich 12:25:13 <LordAro> was delicious 12:25:30 <LordAro> it is now a bit stuck in my teeth though 12:25:53 *** supermop_Home has joined #openttd 12:25:57 <supermop_Home> hi 12:26:43 <andythenorth> hi 12:27:15 <andythenorth> feels like more coffee is indicated here 12:29:28 * andythenorth has more coffee 12:30:18 <peter1138> Good point. Kettle has kettled. 12:30:58 <peter1138> Ready for a vinegary coffee. 12:31:09 <andythenorth> "appealing" 12:31:41 <andythenorth> hmm 12:31:45 <andythenorth> mousetrap status report 12:31:49 <andythenorth> there is a mousetrap 12:31:52 <andythenorth> the bait is gone 12:31:57 <andythenorth> there is no mouse in the trap 12:32:13 <andythenorth> goes it re-bait mousetrap? 12:37:55 <FLHerne> Peanut butter sandwich! 12:38:04 <FLHerne> You'll just end up feeding the mouse 12:38:15 <FLHerne> again 12:38:44 <andythenorth> I have caught a few mice in this house 12:38:50 <andythenorth> One in a humane trap 12:38:56 <andythenorth> One I hunted with a colander 12:41:10 <peter1138> PR #YorkieBar 12:41:56 <peter1138> Github's dark mode has a CSS error :( 12:45:42 <peter1138> winget installation - VS Code is available via the Windows Package Manager. 12:45:43 <peter1138> Hmm 12:57:54 <LordAro> https://blog.cloudflare.com/branch-predictor/ some interesting stuff in here 12:58:00 <LordAro> most of which goes over my head 12:58:20 <TrueBrain> I read it more as someone who clearly was given too much time by his boss :P 13:07:37 <andythenorth> 'but does it make python faster' :P 13:12:29 *** nielsm has joined #openttd 14:05:38 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 14:21:38 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 14:58:41 *** Xaroth has quit IRC 15:11:20 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 15:30:59 *** Xaroth has joined #openttd 15:44:32 *** Progman has joined #openttd 15:55:14 *** EER has quit IRC 16:00:47 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 16:10:24 <Timberwolf> I have finally managed to find one of the many reels of speaker cable I've bought with the intention of, "we should have some music outside when we have friends round for government-approved drinking" 16:11:24 <Timberwolf> I have multiple Bluetooth speakers and things that stream via wifi, but it's not the same as restricting oneself to the tiny number of things one actually owns on physical media. 16:13:18 <Timberwolf> Also the fun of trying to find an audible but non-antisocial volume, when the amplifier is two walls away from the output and has a very sensitive volume control. 16:57:52 <glx> TrueBrain: https://github.com/glx22/OpenTTD/actions/runs/820971165 17:15:53 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 17:17:37 <peter1138> 18:15 17:17:39 <peter1138> Hmm. 17:18:30 <andythenorth> lunchtime? 17:22:32 * Timberwolf went to an actual out for lunch. 17:22:35 <peter1138> "Shall I go out on the bike" time. 17:22:44 <peter1138> I'm tempted to... not. 17:22:56 <Timberwolf> I spent a lot of it thinking, "this building has a lot of influences from William Tite's station buildings" 17:23:06 <Timberwolf> Stupid OpenTTD spriting career. 17:31:00 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] unbeatable-101 opened pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns in console_cmds.cpp https://git.io/J3SEv 17:34:32 <_dp_> next 3 pr's: change his/her in a comment? :p 17:35:23 <frosch123> just grepped for that 17:35:25 <frosch123> 4 comments 17:36:11 <frosch123> most of the "he" are mistyped "the" though :p 17:36:51 <frosch123> and there are some tb sentences, calling ai/gs "he" 17:39:26 <_dp_> hm, I grepped 3 but ok xD 17:43:59 <Rubidium> that PR is even leaving the more exclusive stuff in console_cmds (488/809) 17:44:15 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 commented on pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns in console_cmds.cpp https://git.io/J3Sz9 17:44:45 <frosch123> lol, good point :) 17:45:26 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 commented on pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns in console_cmds.cpp https://git.io/J3SgT 17:45:33 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #9204: Codechange: Be more selective when marking windows dirty https://git.io/J3SgI 17:45:35 <frosch123> added that, maybe they know how to translate that :p 17:46:20 <SpComb> bugfix: add ascii-art drawing of male reproductive organ to ai/gs scripts 17:46:35 <frosch123> is "man-hours" still valid? in german we switched to "person-hours" 17:47:42 <Rubidium> frosch123: it's perchild-hours 17:48:01 <frosch123> oh dear 17:50:00 <peter1138> "he" vs "it" was also a thing certain devs used :) 17:50:10 <andythenorth> idiom 17:50:32 <peter1138> chunky docks? 17:50:35 <FLHerne> Those are some very strange strings even disregarding the gender issue :p 17:51:23 <FLHerne> Perhaps there should just be a setting for your preferred pronouns etc. 17:52:06 <FLHerne> there's no way that could lead to endless discussion of which options it needs and what the default should be 17:52:21 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] unbeatable-101 updated pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns in console_cmds.cpp https://git.io/J3SEv 17:53:00 <peter1138> FLHerne, we are genderless. 17:53:46 <frosch123> FLHerne: change the face gui, so that male faces can have earrings, and female faces can have beards 17:54:00 <peter1138> But definitely only one earring. 17:54:08 <FLHerne> But according to at least some pedants, using "they" everywhere discriminates against singular entities 17:54:29 *** Flygon has quit IRC 17:54:41 <peter1138> No, that's not pedants, that's idiots. 17:54:50 <andythenorth> +1 17:54:52 <FLHerne> The two are exclusive? 17:55:12 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] unbeatable-101 updated pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns in console_cmds.cpp https://git.io/J3SEv 17:55:14 <andythenorth> 'they' unless asked not to 17:55:18 <FLHerne> "self-proclaimed pedants"? 17:55:34 <peter1138> Squash eh? 17:55:34 <andythenorth> English already solved all this for year's, not sure why Twitter is soooooo excited about it 17:55:49 <peter1138> I should've gone out. 17:55:54 <andythenorth> I am having lunch 17:55:58 <FLHerne> It's still sunny 17:56:08 <FLHerne> Is it still lunch when it's 7pm? 17:56:09 <peter1138> The sky has gone dark here and I suddenly don't fancy it at all. 17:56:12 <andythenorth> dinner 17:56:14 <andythenorth> tea 17:56:16 <andythenorth> supper 17:56:20 <andythenorth> what class am I again? 17:56:27 <peter1138> He's misstra know it all 17:56:33 <peter1138> Upperlowermiddle. 17:56:43 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] unbeatable-101 updated pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns in console_cmds.cpp https://git.io/J3SEv 17:56:52 <andythenorth> is there working class any more? 17:57:20 <peter1138> not since they all started voting tory 17:57:29 <andythenorth> tending to agree 17:57:34 <peter1138> boris is a lad right innit mate 17:57:44 <andythenorth> he's a giggle 17:57:44 <Timberwolf> I think they call me a "metropolitan elite" these days. 17:58:13 <andythenorth> I went to a working class school, middle class college, upper class university 17:58:19 <Timberwolf> I would contest more, "metropolitan mostly harmless" 17:58:35 <FLHerne> I should be clear that none of my suggestions or objections above are serious... 17:58:41 <peter1138> champagne socialist eh 17:58:55 <FLHerne> IRC isn't much good for sarcasm 17:59:13 <peter1138> FLHerne, i don't think anyone thought they were :) 17:59:18 <andythenorth> it's better to assume it's all sarcasm 17:59:28 <andythenorth> I find I regard people more kindly that way 17:59:46 <FLHerne> peter1138: Yeah, but then I find weeks later that someone hates me because they did :-/ 17:59:55 <FLHerne> Wouldn't be the first time 18:01:13 <andythenorth> isn't everyone here Gen X? 18:01:15 <frosch123> ah, i think they are using the github editor, that's why they make one commit per file 18:01:16 <andythenorth> the irony generation 18:01:30 <peter1138> Only just. 18:01:37 <Timberwolf> I occasionally run into problems when I go out with senior peers at companies and they ask, "so what did *your* father do?" and I'm like, "he was a shoe repairer until the early '80s, when he realised there was more money in printing" 18:02:03 <Timberwolf> "so yeah... ran the only combined printers and shoe repairers in the Surbiton metropolitan area" 18:02:05 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] unbeatable-101 updated pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns in console_cmds.cpp https://git.io/J3SEv 18:02:23 <FLHerne> I'm younger than that 18:02:38 <andythenorth> don't think I've been asked 'so who are your parents' since university 18:02:40 <Timberwolf> Especially the kind of company where I feel it's a good idea to speak with my YouTube accent most of the time. 18:02:40 <andythenorth> if ever 18:03:02 <peter1138> One small corn on the cob. Not a full one, not a mini one. Is that sufficient or should I try eating properly? 18:03:20 <peter1138> I bet LordAro is out killing his legs and then at the pub. 18:03:53 <peter1138> My boss is younger than me :/ 18:04:13 <Timberwolf> I've been on the other side of that situation a couple times, it's a bit weird. 18:04:26 <andythenorth> my boss is the same age 18:04:28 <andythenorth> to the day 18:04:47 <Timberwolf> Some people are like, "yeah, it's fine, I respect you know a lot about this" 18:05:01 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] unbeatable-101 updated pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns in console_cmds.cpp https://git.io/J3SEv 18:05:04 <Timberwolf> Others are "HOW IS 30-SOMETHING PERSON BOSS OF 50-SOMETHING PERSON" 18:05:52 <frosch123> i mentored students older than me :p 18:06:07 <frosch123> though now i am really too old for that 18:06:36 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] unbeatable-101 updated pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns in console_cmds.cpp https://git.io/J3SEv 18:07:21 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] unbeatable-101 updated pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns in console_cmds.cpp https://git.io/J3SEv 18:08:18 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] FLHerne commented on pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns in console_cmds.cpp https://git.io/J3SwK 18:09:15 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] unbeatable-101 updated pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns in console_cmds.cpp https://git.io/J3SEv 18:09:55 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 18:10:30 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] unbeatable-101 commented on pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns in console_cmds.cpp https://git.io/J3SrL 18:11:01 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 18:11:30 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 18:13:42 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] unbeatable-101 updated pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns in console_cmds.cpp https://git.io/J3SEv 18:15:33 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] unbeatable-101 updated pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns https://git.io/J3SEv 18:16:44 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] unbeatable-101 updated pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns https://git.io/J3SEv 18:17:44 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] unbeatable-101 updated pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns https://git.io/J3SEv 18:18:30 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] unbeatable-101 updated pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns https://git.io/J3SEv 18:20:17 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] unbeatable-101 updated pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns https://git.io/J3SEv 18:20:44 <frosch123> don't complain, i also get a mail for every notice 18:20:50 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] unbeatable-101 updated pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns https://git.io/J3SEv 18:21:46 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] unbeatable-101 updated pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns https://git.io/J3SEv 18:22:25 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] unbeatable-101 updated pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns https://git.io/J3SEv 18:22:54 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] unbeatable-101 updated pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns https://git.io/J3SEv 18:23:23 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] unbeatable-101 updated pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns https://git.io/J3SEv 18:24:45 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] unbeatable-101 updated pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns https://git.io/J3SEv 18:25:02 <nielsm> that's why rate-limiting a single ticket in the bot would be nice 18:25:04 <Rubidium> someone wants to reach r30k quickly 18:25:22 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] FLHerne commented on pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns https://git.io/J3Si0 18:27:14 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] unbeatable-101 updated pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns https://git.io/J3SEv 18:28:17 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] unbeatable-101 updated pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns https://git.io/J3SEv 18:29:37 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] unbeatable-101 updated pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns https://git.io/J3SEv 18:30:23 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] unbeatable-101 commented on pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns https://git.io/J3SPn 18:31:20 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] FLHerne commented on pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns https://git.io/J3SPE 18:32:32 <LordAro> peter1138: not today 18:33:32 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] FLHerne commented on pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns https://git.io/J3SPD 18:33:48 <peter1138> Oh 18:35:33 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] unbeatable-101 updated pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns https://git.io/J3SEv 18:37:12 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] unbeatable-101 commented on pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns https://git.io/J3SXB 18:56:55 <TrueBrain> so the QA team of GOG found an issue with the way I distributed the binaries on their platform, identified the exact issues, solved it, and gave me the solution 18:56:59 <TrueBrain> wtf is this for a QA team? 18:57:04 <TrueBrain> they are not suppose to be useful 18:57:22 <TrueBrain> this is seriously nice of them 18:57:25 <LordAro> haha 18:57:31 <TrueBrain> glx: very nice :D 18:59:09 <TrueBrain> owh, the issue GOG found only happened on MacOS, and only if you launched the game outside of GOG Galaxy 18:59:13 <TrueBrain> damn, they did some serious effort 18:59:53 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] DorpsGek pushed 1 commits to master https://git.io/J3SyU 18:59:54 <DorpsGek> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators) 19:08:17 <glx> hey at least it didn't start a CI run for every change ;) 19:10:01 <TrueBrain> I guess you refer to #9203? And yeah .. that would have been a bit of a queue :) 19:10:49 <TrueBrain> right, next week I should look into automating uploading to GOG 19:10:53 <TrueBrain> doing it manually is annoying :P 19:11:19 <TrueBrain> but the release-workflow is becoming rather large .. I wonder if Steam/GOG shouldn't be their own workflow triggered from the release 19:11:25 <TrueBrain> also makes retriggering them easier in case anything went wrong 19:11:50 <LordAro> could do 19:12:26 <TrueBrain> lol, someone wants to make OpenTTD into an esports 19:12:42 <TrueBrain> if anyone is interested, we have an email address for you :) 19:13:04 <peter1138> Competitive OpenTTD eh? 19:13:16 <LordAro> feasible 19:13:23 <FLHerne> Head2Head was quite neat 19:13:39 <peter1138> Goes it throw out griefing and exploits? 19:14:04 <LordAro> depends on the category, i suppose 19:14:07 <LordAro> same as speedruns 19:14:15 <LordAro> because that's essentially what it would be 19:14:28 <LordAro> competitive speedrun 19:14:43 <TrueBrain> aren't all esports a speedrun in the end? :D 19:15:19 <LordAro> less so when the other team is influencing your game 19:15:38 <TrueBrain> you still try to get there more quickly than the other team, I guess :D 19:15:51 *** iSoSyS has joined #openttd 19:16:21 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 19:16:31 <TrueBrain> we could introduce other modes in OpenTTD, like not limiting by money, but by other means .. like: you can only build 1 train with 2 wagons till you connect A to B 19:16:38 <TrueBrain> that, as reward, grants you 2 more trains 19:16:39 <TrueBrain> etc :P 19:17:00 <TrueBrain> and in a h2h, the first to reach N, gets an extra train 19:17:06 <TrueBrain> so you snowball versus your oponents 19:17:16 <TrueBrain> sudden-death modes .. :P 19:17:23 <glx> that's typically for GS ;) 19:17:36 <TrueBrain> can they limit trains etc? 19:17:49 <TrueBrain> (not type, but max-limit) 19:17:55 <TrueBrain> max-limit .. yes ... not just the limit 19:17:56 <TrueBrain> the max limit 19:17:57 <TrueBrain> lol 19:18:02 <TrueBrain> weirdo (talking to myself) 19:19:37 <TrueBrain> I should revive my h2h .. owh, Yexo had a newer version didn't he? hmm .. 19:19:41 <TrueBrain> still years and years old .. 19:20:56 <glx> will be a rebase hell :) 19:21:04 <TrueBrain> did enough rebases for 1 week :P 19:23:02 <TrueBrain> today I got a GitHub security dependency warning for OpenTTD-Ladder .. that project dates from 2013, and only now received the first security depdency thingy :D 19:24:01 <TrueBrain> fun fact, we added polarssl and gnutls to OpenTTD for the ladder, as we needed to be able to make HTTPS calls :D 19:28:09 <frosch123> [21:12] <TrueBrain> lol, someone wants to make OpenTTD into an esports <- not sure about that... they sent it to the corporate mailbox, so maybe they are looking for a sponsor :p 19:28:33 <TrueBrain> haha, yeah, their choice of email address is a bit poor 19:36:30 *** arikover has joined #openttd 19:36:50 <arikover> hello. 20:01:15 *** sla_ro|master2 has joined #openttd 20:06:26 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 20:40:49 *** iSoSyS has quit IRC 20:44:08 *** arikover has quit IRC 20:52:53 *** Samu has quit IRC 21:03:08 *** Gustavo6046 has quit IRC 21:03:41 *** Gustavo6046 has joined #openttd 21:10:17 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler commented on pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns https://git.io/J39IH 21:13:42 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 21:33:17 *** smoke_fumus has quit IRC 21:34:43 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 21:44:48 <_dp_> I want to make some pvp h2h server but it's kinda tmwftlb atm 21:45:27 <_dp_> so competitive speedruns is all it is for now xD 21:46:53 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 21:48:49 <_dp_> and, yeah, more stuff for gs to limit would be nice 21:48:55 <_dp_> especially per company 21:49:28 *** unbeatable101 has joined #openttd 21:49:31 <_dp_> also thought today, having different basecosts in different regiouns of the map would be nice 21:50:02 <_dp_> making building in mountains more costly for example 21:50:19 <_dp_> and maintenance 21:50:22 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #9205: Codechange: Make GetCurrentRect() conform to usual Rect bounds, and reuse it. https://git.io/J393y 21:51:51 <_dp_> very few desyncs on 1.11.2 btw 21:51:59 <_dp_> looks like I finally got most of them xD 21:52:57 <_dp_> still plenty on reddit though it looks like... 21:53:04 *** sla_ro|master2 has quit IRC 21:53:47 <peter1138> different regions would be good start... 21:53:56 <peter1138> (landscape variety doesn't cut it) 21:54:33 *** gelignite has quit IRC 21:55:05 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #9206: Codechange: Slider widget used different range for drawing vs setting. https://git.io/J39sc 21:55:36 <peter1138> Adjust building costs by altitude or "remoteness" 21:56:46 <peter1138> Not sure GS could change that though 21:57:15 <_dp_> well, it could change regions and basecosts in theory 21:57:27 <_dp_> just not do costs in callbacks 21:58:41 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 21:59:30 *** unbeatable101 has quit IRC 22:14:03 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc approved pull request #9202: Codechange: Don't save unused NewGRF override mappings. https://git.io/J39Zy 22:14:56 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc approved pull request #9204: Codechange: Be more selective when marking windows dirty https://git.io/J39Zh 22:35:59 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] embeddedt opened pull request #9207: Fix: Use non-XDG directory for OpenTTD on Emscripten https://git.io/J39WC 22:50:12 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] embeddedt opened issue #9208: Emscripten cannot persist all setting changes by design https://git.io/J394K 23:29:36 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] unbeatable-101 opened issue #9209: The victory screen newspaper slows the game down considerably https://git.io/J39zL 23:30:09 *** skrzyp has joined #openttd 23:30:16 *** nielsm has quit IRC