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Log for #openttd on 7th May 2021:
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06:36:48  <andythenorth> yo
06:48:17  <Rubidium> 'lo
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07:26:34  <LordAro> is morn?
07:27:31  <andythenorth> si
07:27:33  <andythenorth> is
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07:47:49  <TrueBrain> in case we ever want to add telemetry in OpenTTD, this seems to be a generic response of the public to it: https://github.com/audacity/audacity/pull/835 :D
07:57:07  <LordAro> oh dear
07:58:02  <TrueBrain> consensus seems to be: automated crash-reports: fine
07:58:09  <TrueBrain> anonymous telemetry opt-in, ... if you have to
07:58:19  <TrueBrain> "UUID" based "anonymous" telemetry opt-out: FUCK NO
07:58:25  <TrueBrain> via Google: EEUUUUHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
07:58:31  <TrueBrain> :D
07:59:12  <TrueBrain> automated crash reports is high on my list btw .. as the crash reports we are currently getting are not that useful :P
08:00:54  <Tulitomaatti> :D
08:08:40  <peter1138> That isn't "basic" telemetry by any means.
08:14:32  <TrueBrain> neither "anonymous" :P
08:17:29  <andythenorth> fuck yes Audacity needs telemetry
08:17:33  <andythenorth> the mac port is barely functional
08:17:45  <andythenorth> sorry, am I off-topic :P
08:17:51  * andythenorth gets coat
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08:24:08  <peter1138> Let's put telemetry on andythenorth
08:26:02  <peter1138> The opengl pixel buffer, is it possible for that to become visible while it's still being filled?
08:26:56  <peter1138> I'm fairly sure opengl does not refresh a 'scene' by itself, but... weird behaviour is observed.
08:42:08  <Rubidium> TrueBrain: that somebody had the audacity to create that PR
08:43:42  <TrueBrain> ..... really? you went there? reallllyyyy??? :P
08:48:36  <TrueBrain> okay, my work of yesterday makes at least 1 of my commits a lot more trivial .. now lets see what the others do :P
08:49:49  <Rubidium> conflict & silently break things?
08:50:16  <TrueBrain> I have 2 ctor overloads: one with A, B, C and one with A, B
08:50:22  <TrueBrain> can I call the latter from the first somehow?
08:50:28  <TrueBrain> it is not working how I expected :P
08:54:12  <TrueBrain> https://godbolt.org/z/xY8E64o5n <- for some reason I expected that to work
08:55:29  <TrueBrain> nevermind ...
08:55:35  <TrueBrain> connecter vs connector is still an issue
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09:09:21  <peter1138> Ah... so https://www.audacityteam.org/audacity-musescore-announcement/
09:11:19  <TrueBrain> "We’re scared and excited. " <- turns out, mostly scared :P
09:13:23  <Rubidium> seriously... they make it too easy. That's an announcement of a crook; I wouldn't trust it at all
09:18:03  <TrueBrain> std::string_view is a bit infectious ... once a few functions go, a lot have to follow :P
09:18:14  <TrueBrain> or of course you can cast it to std::string, but .. yeah .. why would tou if you don't have to?
09:19:17  <TrueBrain> dbg: [misc] Failed to resolve DNS for ���lvU <- lol
09:21:48  <TrueBrain> you do have to copy it some day, ofc :D Ghehe
09:41:03  <peter1138> Also, can confirm, switching to std::clamp is a pain.
09:42:29  <TrueBrain> and my STUN branch compiles again .. pff .. we should stop doing this :P But it is getting smaller each time, so I guess it is worth it ..
09:42:50  <peter1138> :D
09:42:54  <TrueBrain> now I can finally fix the problem I found 24 hours ago .. just to not have time today to do that :D
09:43:17  <peter1138> Does it add telemetry?
09:43:41  <TrueBrain> in a sense, and this is an honest answer, it does
09:44:05  <TrueBrain> the Game Coordinator can see how many clients connect to how many servers, what versions they run, and how their network connection looks
09:44:25  <TrueBrain> and I will keep stats of that .. well ... % of people that used direct-connect, STUN or TURN
09:44:31  <TrueBrain> like .. truly anonymous information :)
09:44:36  <TrueBrain> like .. a counter :P
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09:45:52  <TrueBrain> https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/commit/c9ee2d564454c562e5cb40f9180cc9930324218e <- old commit
09:45:56  <TrueBrain> https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/commit/e3b51cf768a87644943c3312ae05c29d7c39b91d <- new commit
09:46:02  <TrueBrain> guess the rebase was worth it
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09:50:47  <peter1138> No wonder I keep running out of instant coffee. This one is going to give me a hairy chest.
09:51:18  <peter1138> TrueBrain, that is a side-effect of what it does, rather than it's purpose.
09:51:22  <peter1138> *its
09:51:33  <peter1138> Well, keeping stats isn't but ...
09:51:48  <peter1138> Just don't feed it into Google and Yandex...
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10:09:59  <TrueBrain> peter1138: haha, fuck no, I rather rage quit before I do that :)
10:24:18  <_dp_> out of curiosity checked chunk size and comperession ratios: https://pastebin.com/raw/hiC2PcLF
10:26:40  <_dp_> compressed size is by compressing them separately so it's not exactly as it's in the savegame but should be fine indication of how well it compresses on its own
10:26:58  <peter1138> OBID :D
10:27:15  <_dp_> yeah, that's just half a megabyte of zeros :p
10:29:05  <peter1138> Is there an issue with that one? The other ID tables are not anywhere near as large...
10:29:19  <_dp_> yeah, kinda is
10:29:36  <_dp_> it just dumps all 64k items regardless if they're used or not
10:30:21  <_dp_> in fact this whole check was largely motivated by OBID as I wanted to see if there are any other chunks like it
10:30:42  <peter1138> The saveload code for them is the save though.
10:31:52  <peter1138> *same
10:32:56  <Rubidium> I guess the number of houses, airport tiles and industries that can be mapped is much smaller
10:34:41  <peter1138> Ah you are correct. They are varied in length so I thougt it was doing a sparse save.
10:35:15  <Rubidium> airport tiles: 258, airports: 128, house: 512, industries: 240, industry tiles: 512
10:35:31  <_dp_> here's the script if someone wants to check other saves: https://pastebin.com/PZnZGLZX
10:35:43  <peter1138> Looking at the code, it clearly COULD do a sparse save.
10:35:54  <peter1138> SlSetArrayIndex(i) is the first call.
10:37:27  <peter1138> CheckValidNewID is protected, argh
10:38:54  <Rubidium> yeah, you see the same for ATID, APID, HIDS, IIDS and TIDS; lots of compression
10:39:19  <Rubidium> though probably that will create huge ratios like SUBS has ;)
10:39:52  <peter1138> Ah, that doesn't test the right thing anyway. Hmm.
10:43:18  <_dp_> for small chunks huge ratios are not relevant
10:43:37  <_dp_> since it compresses them anew and includes header, etc
10:44:16  <peter1138> Still pointlessly compressing 384000 bytes.
10:45:07  <_dp_> yeah, that's a waste
10:47:09  <Rubidium> I guess we didn't spot that 14 years ago with the newhouses branch merge
10:54:45  <peter1138> Actually that's just the data, there's also the array index, which fortunately seems to compress quite well.
10:55:15  <peter1138> I'll make a PR at lunch :)
10:55:31  <peter1138> Then that line should be another 5600% or something, heh
10:56:04  <peter1138> I just lost a browser window. Turns out I was... looking at it.
10:56:42  <LordAro> 👍
11:01:37  <peter1138> That's the kettle descaled again. Next mug might taste a bit like fish & chips...
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11:39:56  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #9202: Codechange: Don't save unused NewGRF override mappings. https://git.io/J3yTe
11:46:37  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 commented on pull request #9202: Codechange: Don't save unused NewGRF override mappings. https://git.io/J3ykl
11:51:47  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on pull request #9202: Codechange: Don't save unused NewGRF override mappings. https://git.io/J3yIZ
11:53:22  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN updated pull request #9202: Codechange: Don't save unused NewGRF override mappings. https://git.io/J3yTe
12:09:59  <peter1138> Mind you everything seems to work without the mappings being saved. I guess it's to do with entities changing with NewGRF updates, but...
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12:19:39  <andythenorth> got this weird feeling I'm being watched
12:19:45  <andythenorth> anyway, was it lunch?
12:22:58  <peter1138> No.
12:23:49  <andythenorth> oh
12:23:54  <andythenorth> I had a bacon sandwich
12:23:54  <Tulitomaatti> i wish it was the second lunch.
12:23:58  <andythenorth> was that incorrect?
12:24:48  <peter1138> Everything is just snack time.
12:25:10  <LordAro> pulled pork sandwich
12:25:13  <LordAro> was delicious
12:25:30  <LordAro> it is now a bit stuck in my teeth though
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12:25:57  <supermop_Home> hi
12:26:43  <andythenorth> hi
12:27:15  <andythenorth> feels like more coffee is indicated here
12:29:28  * andythenorth has more coffee
12:30:18  <peter1138> Good point. Kettle has kettled.
12:30:58  <peter1138> Ready for a vinegary coffee.
12:31:09  <andythenorth> "appealing"
12:31:41  <andythenorth> hmm
12:31:45  <andythenorth> mousetrap status report
12:31:49  <andythenorth> there is a mousetrap
12:31:52  <andythenorth> the bait is gone
12:31:57  <andythenorth> there is no mouse in the trap
12:32:13  <andythenorth> goes it re-bait mousetrap?
12:37:55  <FLHerne> Peanut butter sandwich!
12:38:04  <FLHerne> You'll just end up feeding the mouse
12:38:15  <FLHerne> again
12:38:44  <andythenorth> I have caught a few mice in this house
12:38:50  <andythenorth> One in a humane trap
12:38:56  <andythenorth> One I hunted with a colander
12:41:10  <peter1138> PR #YorkieBar
12:41:56  <peter1138> Github's dark mode has a CSS error :(
12:45:42  <peter1138> winget installation - VS Code is available via the Windows Package Manager.
12:45:43  <peter1138> Hmm
12:57:54  <LordAro> https://blog.cloudflare.com/branch-predictor/ some interesting stuff in here
12:58:00  <LordAro> most of which goes over my head
12:58:20  <TrueBrain> I read it more as someone who clearly was given too much time by his boss :P
13:07:37  <andythenorth> 'but does it make python faster' :P
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16:10:24  <Timberwolf> I have finally managed to find one of the many reels of speaker cable I've bought with the intention of, "we should have some music outside when we have friends round for government-approved drinking"
16:11:24  <Timberwolf> I have multiple Bluetooth speakers and things that stream via wifi, but it's not the same as restricting oneself to the tiny number of things one actually owns on physical media.
16:13:18  <Timberwolf> Also the fun of trying to find an audible but non-antisocial volume, when the amplifier is two walls away from the output and has a very sensitive volume control.
16:57:52  <glx> TrueBrain: https://github.com/glx22/OpenTTD/actions/runs/820971165
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17:17:37  <peter1138> 18:15
17:17:39  <peter1138> Hmm.
17:18:30  <andythenorth> lunchtime?
17:22:32  * Timberwolf went to an actual out for lunch.
17:22:35  <peter1138> "Shall I go out on the bike" time.
17:22:44  <peter1138> I'm tempted to... not.
17:22:56  <Timberwolf> I spent a lot of it thinking, "this building has a lot of influences from William Tite's station buildings"
17:23:06  <Timberwolf> Stupid OpenTTD spriting career.
17:31:00  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] unbeatable-101 opened pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns in console_cmds.cpp https://git.io/J3SEv
17:34:32  <_dp_> next 3 pr's: change his/her in a comment? :p
17:35:23  <frosch123> just grepped for that
17:35:25  <frosch123> 4 comments
17:36:11  <frosch123> most of the "he" are mistyped "the" though :p
17:36:51  <frosch123> and there are some tb sentences, calling ai/gs "he"
17:39:26  <_dp_> hm, I grepped 3 but ok xD
17:43:59  <Rubidium> that PR is even leaving the more exclusive stuff in console_cmds (488/809)
17:44:15  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 commented on pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns in console_cmds.cpp https://git.io/J3Sz9
17:44:45  <frosch123> lol, good point :)
17:45:26  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 commented on pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns in console_cmds.cpp https://git.io/J3SgT
17:45:33  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #9204: Codechange: Be more selective when marking windows dirty https://git.io/J3SgI
17:45:35  <frosch123> added that, maybe they know how to translate that :p
17:46:20  <SpComb> bugfix: add ascii-art drawing of male reproductive organ to ai/gs scripts
17:46:35  <frosch123> is "man-hours" still valid? in german we switched to "person-hours"
17:47:42  <Rubidium> frosch123: it's perchild-hours
17:48:01  <frosch123> oh dear
17:50:00  <peter1138> "he" vs "it" was also a thing certain devs used :)
17:50:10  <andythenorth> idiom
17:50:32  <peter1138> chunky docks?
17:50:35  <FLHerne> Those are some very strange strings even disregarding the gender issue :p
17:51:23  <FLHerne> Perhaps there should just be a setting for your preferred pronouns etc.
17:52:06  <FLHerne> there's no way that could lead to endless discussion of which options it needs and what the default should be
17:52:21  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] unbeatable-101 updated pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns in console_cmds.cpp https://git.io/J3SEv
17:53:00  <peter1138> FLHerne, we are genderless.
17:53:46  <frosch123> FLHerne: change the face gui, so that male faces can have earrings, and female faces can have beards
17:54:00  <peter1138> But definitely only one earring.
17:54:08  <FLHerne> But according to at least some pedants, using "they" everywhere discriminates against singular entities
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17:54:41  <peter1138> No, that's not pedants, that's idiots.
17:54:50  <andythenorth> +1
17:54:52  <FLHerne> The two are exclusive?
17:55:12  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] unbeatable-101 updated pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns in console_cmds.cpp https://git.io/J3SEv
17:55:14  <andythenorth> 'they' unless asked not to
17:55:18  <FLHerne> "self-proclaimed pedants"?
17:55:34  <peter1138> Squash eh?
17:55:34  <andythenorth> English already solved all this for year's, not sure why Twitter is soooooo excited about it
17:55:49  <peter1138> I should've gone out.
17:55:54  <andythenorth> I am having lunch
17:55:58  <FLHerne> It's still sunny
17:56:08  <FLHerne> Is it still lunch when it's 7pm?
17:56:09  <peter1138> The sky has gone dark here and I suddenly don't fancy it at all.
17:56:12  <andythenorth> dinner
17:56:14  <andythenorth> tea
17:56:16  <andythenorth> supper
17:56:20  <andythenorth> what class am I again?
17:56:27  <peter1138> He's misstra know it all
17:56:33  <peter1138> Upperlowermiddle.
17:56:43  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] unbeatable-101 updated pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns in console_cmds.cpp https://git.io/J3SEv
17:56:52  <andythenorth> is there working class any more?
17:57:20  <peter1138> not since they all started voting tory
17:57:29  <andythenorth> tending to agree
17:57:34  <peter1138> boris is a lad right innit mate
17:57:44  <andythenorth> he's a giggle
17:57:44  <Timberwolf> I think they call me a "metropolitan elite" these days.
17:58:13  <andythenorth> I went to a working class school, middle class college, upper class university
17:58:19  <Timberwolf> I would contest more, "metropolitan mostly harmless"
17:58:35  <FLHerne> I should be clear that none of my suggestions or objections above are serious...
17:58:41  <peter1138> champagne socialist eh
17:58:55  <FLHerne> IRC isn't much good for sarcasm
17:59:13  <peter1138> FLHerne, i don't think anyone thought they were :)
17:59:18  <andythenorth> it's better to assume it's all sarcasm
17:59:28  <andythenorth> I find I regard people more kindly that way
17:59:46  <FLHerne> peter1138: Yeah, but then I find weeks later that someone hates me because they did :-/
17:59:55  <FLHerne> Wouldn't be the first time
18:01:13  <andythenorth> isn't everyone here Gen X?
18:01:15  <frosch123> ah, i think they are using the github editor, that's why they make one commit per file
18:01:16  <andythenorth> the irony generation
18:01:30  <peter1138> Only just.
18:01:37  <Timberwolf> I occasionally run into problems when I go out with senior peers at companies and they ask, "so what did *your* father do?" and I'm like, "he was a shoe repairer until the early '80s, when he realised there was more money in printing"
18:02:03  <Timberwolf> "so yeah... ran the only combined printers and shoe repairers in the Surbiton metropolitan area"
18:02:05  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] unbeatable-101 updated pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns in console_cmds.cpp https://git.io/J3SEv
18:02:23  <FLHerne> I'm younger than that
18:02:38  <andythenorth> don't think I've been asked 'so who are your parents' since university
18:02:40  <Timberwolf> Especially the kind of company where I feel it's a good idea to speak with my YouTube accent most of the time.
18:02:40  <andythenorth> if ever
18:03:02  <peter1138> One small corn on the cob. Not a full one, not a mini one. Is that sufficient or should I try eating properly?
18:03:20  <peter1138> I bet LordAro is out killing his legs and then at the pub.
18:03:53  <peter1138> My boss is younger than me :/
18:04:13  <Timberwolf> I've been on the other side of that situation a couple times, it's a bit weird.
18:04:26  <andythenorth> my boss is the same age
18:04:28  <andythenorth> to the day
18:04:47  <Timberwolf> Some people are like, "yeah, it's fine, I respect you know a lot about this"
18:05:01  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] unbeatable-101 updated pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns in console_cmds.cpp https://git.io/J3SEv
18:05:04  <Timberwolf> Others are "HOW IS 30-SOMETHING PERSON BOSS OF 50-SOMETHING PERSON"
18:05:52  <frosch123> i mentored students older than me :p
18:06:07  <frosch123> though now i am really too old for that
18:06:36  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] unbeatable-101 updated pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns in console_cmds.cpp https://git.io/J3SEv
18:07:21  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] unbeatable-101 updated pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns in console_cmds.cpp https://git.io/J3SEv
18:08:18  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] FLHerne commented on pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns in console_cmds.cpp https://git.io/J3SwK
18:09:15  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] unbeatable-101 updated pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns in console_cmds.cpp https://git.io/J3SEv
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18:10:30  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] unbeatable-101 commented on pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns in console_cmds.cpp https://git.io/J3SrL
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18:13:42  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] unbeatable-101 updated pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns in console_cmds.cpp https://git.io/J3SEv
18:15:33  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] unbeatable-101 updated pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns https://git.io/J3SEv
18:16:44  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] unbeatable-101 updated pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns https://git.io/J3SEv
18:17:44  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] unbeatable-101 updated pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns https://git.io/J3SEv
18:18:30  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] unbeatable-101 updated pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns https://git.io/J3SEv
18:20:17  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] unbeatable-101 updated pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns https://git.io/J3SEv
18:20:44  <frosch123> don't complain, i also get a mail for every notice
18:20:50  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] unbeatable-101 updated pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns https://git.io/J3SEv
18:21:46  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] unbeatable-101 updated pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns https://git.io/J3SEv
18:22:25  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] unbeatable-101 updated pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns https://git.io/J3SEv
18:22:54  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] unbeatable-101 updated pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns https://git.io/J3SEv
18:23:23  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] unbeatable-101 updated pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns https://git.io/J3SEv
18:24:45  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] unbeatable-101 updated pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns https://git.io/J3SEv
18:25:02  <nielsm> that's why rate-limiting a single ticket in the bot would be nice
18:25:04  <Rubidium> someone wants to reach r30k quickly
18:25:22  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] FLHerne commented on pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns https://git.io/J3Si0
18:27:14  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] unbeatable-101 updated pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns https://git.io/J3SEv
18:28:17  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] unbeatable-101 updated pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns https://git.io/J3SEv
18:29:37  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] unbeatable-101 updated pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns https://git.io/J3SEv
18:30:23  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] unbeatable-101 commented on pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns https://git.io/J3SPn
18:31:20  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] FLHerne commented on pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns https://git.io/J3SPE
18:32:32  <LordAro> peter1138: not today
18:33:32  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] FLHerne commented on pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns https://git.io/J3SPD
18:33:48  <peter1138> Oh
18:35:33  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] unbeatable-101 updated pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns https://git.io/J3SEv
18:37:12  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] unbeatable-101 commented on pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns https://git.io/J3SXB
18:56:55  <TrueBrain> so the QA team of GOG found an issue with the way I distributed the binaries on their platform, identified the exact issues, solved it, and gave me the solution
18:56:59  <TrueBrain> wtf is this for a QA team?
18:57:04  <TrueBrain> they are not suppose to be useful
18:57:22  <TrueBrain> this is seriously nice of them
18:57:25  <LordAro> haha
18:57:31  <TrueBrain> glx: very nice :D
18:59:09  <TrueBrain> owh, the issue GOG found only happened on MacOS, and only if you launched the game outside of GOG Galaxy
18:59:13  <TrueBrain> damn, they did some serious effort
18:59:53  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] DorpsGek pushed 1 commits to master https://git.io/J3SyU
18:59:54  <DorpsGek>   - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)
19:08:17  <glx> hey at least it didn't start a CI run for every change ;)
19:10:01  <TrueBrain> I guess you refer to #9203? And yeah .. that would have been a bit of a queue :)
19:10:49  <TrueBrain> right, next week I should look into automating uploading to GOG
19:10:53  <TrueBrain> doing it manually is annoying :P
19:11:19  <TrueBrain> but the release-workflow is becoming rather large .. I wonder if Steam/GOG shouldn't be their own workflow triggered from the release
19:11:25  <TrueBrain> also makes retriggering them easier in case anything went wrong
19:11:50  <LordAro> could do
19:12:26  <TrueBrain> lol, someone wants to make OpenTTD into an esports
19:12:42  <TrueBrain> if anyone is interested, we have an email address for you :)
19:13:04  <peter1138> Competitive OpenTTD eh?
19:13:16  <LordAro> feasible
19:13:23  <FLHerne> Head2Head was quite neat
19:13:39  <peter1138> Goes it throw out griefing and exploits?
19:14:04  <LordAro> depends on the category, i suppose
19:14:07  <LordAro> same as speedruns
19:14:15  <LordAro> because that's essentially what it would be
19:14:28  <LordAro> competitive speedrun
19:14:43  <TrueBrain> aren't all esports a speedrun in the end? :D
19:15:19  <LordAro> less so when the other team is influencing your game
19:15:38  <TrueBrain> you still try to get there more quickly than the other team, I guess :D
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19:16:31  <TrueBrain> we could introduce other modes in OpenTTD, like not limiting by money, but by other means .. like: you can only build 1 train with 2 wagons till you connect A to B
19:16:38  <TrueBrain> that, as reward, grants you 2 more trains
19:16:39  <TrueBrain> etc :P
19:17:00  <TrueBrain> and in a h2h, the first to reach N, gets an extra train
19:17:06  <TrueBrain> so you snowball versus your oponents
19:17:16  <TrueBrain> sudden-death modes .. :P
19:17:23  <glx> that's typically for GS ;)
19:17:36  <TrueBrain> can they limit trains etc?
19:17:49  <TrueBrain> (not type, but max-limit)
19:17:55  <TrueBrain> max-limit .. yes ... not just the limit
19:17:56  <TrueBrain> the max limit
19:17:57  <TrueBrain> lol
19:18:02  <TrueBrain> weirdo (talking to myself)
19:19:37  <TrueBrain> I should revive my h2h .. owh, Yexo had a newer version didn't he? hmm ..
19:19:41  <TrueBrain> still years and years old ..
19:20:56  <glx> will be a rebase hell :)
19:21:04  <TrueBrain> did enough rebases for 1 week :P
19:23:02  <TrueBrain> today I got a GitHub security dependency warning for OpenTTD-Ladder .. that project dates from 2013, and only now received the first security depdency thingy :D
19:24:01  <TrueBrain> fun fact, we added polarssl and gnutls to OpenTTD for the ladder, as we needed to be able to make HTTPS calls :D
19:28:09  <frosch123> [21:12] <TrueBrain> lol, someone wants to make OpenTTD into an esports <- not sure about that... they sent it to the corporate mailbox, so maybe they are looking for a sponsor :p
19:28:33  <TrueBrain> haha, yeah, their choice of email address is a bit poor
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21:10:17  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler commented on pull request #9203: Change: Use gender-neutral pronouns https://git.io/J39IH
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21:44:48  <_dp_> I want to make some pvp h2h server but it's kinda tmwftlb atm
21:45:27  <_dp_> so competitive speedruns is all it is for now xD
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21:48:49  <_dp_> and, yeah, more stuff for gs to limit would be nice
21:48:55  <_dp_> especially per company
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21:49:31  <_dp_> also thought today, having different basecosts in different regiouns of the map would be nice
21:50:02  <_dp_> making building in mountains more costly for example
21:50:19  <_dp_> and maintenance
21:50:22  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #9205: Codechange: Make GetCurrentRect() conform to usual Rect bounds, and reuse it. https://git.io/J393y
21:51:51  <_dp_> very few desyncs on 1.11.2 btw
21:51:59  <_dp_> looks like I finally got most of them xD
21:52:57  <_dp_> still plenty on reddit though it looks like...
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21:53:47  <peter1138> different regions would be good start...
21:53:56  <peter1138> (landscape variety doesn't cut it)
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21:55:05  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #9206: Codechange: Slider widget used different range for drawing vs setting. https://git.io/J39sc
21:55:36  <peter1138> Adjust building costs by altitude or "remoteness"
21:56:46  <peter1138> Not sure GS could change that though
21:57:15  <_dp_> well, it could change regions and basecosts in theory
21:57:27  <_dp_> just not do costs in callbacks
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22:14:03  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc approved pull request #9202: Codechange: Don't save unused NewGRF override mappings. https://git.io/J39Zy
22:14:56  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc approved pull request #9204: Codechange: Be more selective when marking windows dirty https://git.io/J39Zh
22:35:59  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] embeddedt opened pull request #9207: Fix: Use non-XDG directory for OpenTTD on Emscripten https://git.io/J39WC
22:50:12  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] embeddedt opened issue #9208: Emscripten cannot persist all setting changes by design https://git.io/J394K
23:29:36  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] unbeatable-101 opened issue #9209: The victory screen newspaper slows the game down considerably https://git.io/J39zL
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