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other side of the map, are probably the most profitable thing you can do with them 09:42:16 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 10:11:27 <Timberwolf> IMO the issue with road vehicles in vanilla is they're way too expensive - matching the throughput of a train is something like 3x-5x the cost. 10:15:24 <Timberwolf> It also doesn't help that the first generation is both bad and long-lived; you have 30 years or so where you have access to 80-90mph trains, but all the road vehicles are stuck at 30mph. 10:16:03 <Timberwolf> TTO may have been slightly better balanced, where the second generation road vehicles were 70mph (as opposed to TTD, where second gen is 55 and then there's a "future" generation in 2005 or so) 10:20:29 <Timberwolf> Of course, there is the "realism" argument that road vehicles (at least in Europe) did genuinely suck for long-distance cargo transport until the mid-1960s, and even then weren't great until the power levels went up from ~180hp up to 300 or so in the late 1970s. 10:25:07 <andythenorth_> Steam Lorry Dictatorship 10:26:19 <Timberwolf> Heh. 10:26:44 <Timberwolf> It surprised me when I was researching how much better than the equivalent petrol lorries they were, performance-wise. 10:28:15 <Timberwolf> Imagining back in the 1930s, you're struggling to get your Leyland lorry up past 20mph and someone in a Sentinel absolutely blasts past you at 35. 10:29:04 <Timberwolf> TTD doesn't really have the "this is complicated and annoying to maintain" aspect beyond basic running costs. 10:32:15 <andythenorth_> it does not 10:32:16 <andythenorth_> in spades 10:32:30 <andythenorth_> especially when I turn breakdowns off :P 10:32:36 <Timberwolf> Also speed limits. 10:33:27 *** virtualrandomnumber has joined #openttd 12:08:27 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 12:09:33 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 12:33:35 *** roadt__ has joined #openttd 12:35:37 *** iSoSyS has joined #openttd 12:40:29 *** roadt_ has quit IRC 12:41:12 *** iSoSyS has quit IRC 12:42:01 *** Samu has joined #openttd 12:47:30 <andythenorth_> /me wonders if we could patch some of this https://wiki.openttd.org/en/Development/Design%20Drafts/NewGRF/Town%20Control 13:12:00 *** glx has joined #openttd 13:12:00 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 13:14:53 *** snail_UES_ has joined #openttd 13:15:15 *** nielsm has joined #openttd 13:25:42 *** tokai|noir has joined #openttd 13:25:42 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai|noir 13:32:29 *** tokai has quit IRC 13:37:32 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 14:22:27 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 14:22:40 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 14:29:38 *** gelignite has quit IRC 14:46:06 *** virtualrandomnumber has quit IRC 14:50:45 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 14:50:54 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 14:51:01 *** tokai has joined #openttd 14:51:01 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai 14:58:05 *** tokai|noir has quit IRC 15:18:15 *** greengaeru5122f has joined #openttd 15:18:32 <greengaeru5122f> test 15:19:09 *** greengaeru5122f has quit IRC 15:25:46 <FLHerne> well, it worked 15:47:23 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 15:47:47 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 15:52:28 *** Progman has joined #openttd 16:02:45 <peter1138> I don't know what piano to get :( 16:05:48 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] spnda updated pull request #7955: WIP Feature: NewGRF Road Stops (Feature 14) https://git.io/JvLQL 16:21:46 <LordAro> peter1138: what options are you looking at? 16:31:52 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 16:50:43 *** Mek has quit IRC 16:52:04 *** Mek has joined #openttd 17:15:03 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 17:37:20 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 17:46:11 <andythenorth> still no quak? 17:50:35 <Wolf01> I'm a bit devastated, I'm sitting here doing nothing... luckily I'm on vacation now 17:50:54 *** jottyfan has joined #openttd 17:53:44 *** Starbud has joined #openttd 17:54:33 <Starbud> hello :) 17:54:42 *** Flygon has quit IRC 17:59:18 <Starbud> I was looking for another channel, an openttd channel for the reddit servers, i was looking at freenode but i must be mistaken, anyon having an idea what i'm looking for? 17:59:40 <Starbud> the game itself closed permanently today 18:00:04 <Starbud> and i didnt write the server or channel down :( 18:03:57 <FLHerne> Starbud: There's #/r/openttd 18:04:34 <FLHerne> "closed permanently" ? 18:05:05 <FLHerne> Oh, I see the post on the subreddit now 18:05:55 <FLHerne> That's a pity, it was the best casual-stock-gameplay multiplayer server for many years 18:07:29 <Starbud> yes it was 18:07:41 <Starbud> i have been on it for the last half year 18:09:48 <Starbud> someone called FlowSkate created copies 18:10:22 <Starbud> he/she even got the coding for something driving some website aswell 18:10:44 <Starbud> so he got good support form luaduck who created the reddit servers 18:27:20 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 18:28:08 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 18:39:03 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 18:42:18 <Starbud> seems i have found it, thanks FLHerne 18:42:38 <Starbud> atleast i can see one well known name 19:30:50 * andythenorth won solitaire 19:30:55 <andythenorth> took 2 hours for that game 19:58:20 *** Gustavo6046_ has joined #openttd 20:00:50 *** Gustavo6046 has quit IRC 20:00:50 *** Gustavo6046_ is now known as Gustavo6046 20:01:00 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttd 20:07:41 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 20:30:42 *** Gustavo6046_ has joined #openttd 20:35:25 *** Gustavo6046 has quit IRC 20:35:25 *** Gustavo6046_ is now known as Gustavo6046 21:09:46 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 21:13:05 *** Starbud has quit IRC 21:22:18 *** jottyfan has joined #openttd 21:25:21 *** Gustavo6046_ has joined #openttd 21:27:57 *** Gustavo6046 has quit IRC 21:27:57 *** Gustavo6046_ is now known as Gustavo6046 21:32:27 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 21:34:14 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 21:38:52 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 21:48:55 *** nielsm has quit IRC 21:59:29 <Gustavo6046> there is something missing 21:59:35 <Gustavo6046> why can't I check the jukebox from the main menu? 22:20:36 *** Samu has quit IRC 22:22:09 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 22:24:16 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 22:34:14 *** jottyfan has joined #openttd 22:39:17 *** gelignite has quit IRC 23:01:09 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 23:11:35 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 23:15:55 *** snail_UES_ has quit IRC 23:20:45 *** Smedles has quit IRC 23:35:04 *** Progman has quit IRC 23:45:06 *** tokai|noir has joined #openttd 23:45:06 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai|noir 23:52:00 *** tokai has quit IRC