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Log for #openttd on 15th August 2022:
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10:37:18  <peter1138> Not for photos.
10:45:13  <reldred> PNG’s are lossless, so they’re good for photos when space and bandwidth isn’t a concern
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11:03:43  <RektTangleCaptainKlu> I love PNGs, only second to RAW when shooting
11:04:10  <RektTangleCaptainKlu> And smaller than BMP when spriting
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11:04:56  <TheDumGamer> Who are we shooting
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11:05:48  <TallTyler> Come to America, the answer is “everybody” 😦
11:06:49  <wyndbain> Yeah RAW is where it’s at
11:07:16  <wyndbain> But for finalised images PNG
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11:19:29  <peter1138> Woo, breakfast time :D
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11:24:14  <RektTangleCaptainKlu> I only hate PNGs when they snort all my mobile data in 4 seconds because some idiot frontend dev uploaded the full resolution 4k image you can barely see in the background of the website
11:26:06  <andythenorth> modern life is rubbish
11:26:10  <andythenorth> how do we all cope?
11:26:27  <RektTangleCaptainKlu> ketamine
11:26:35  <RektTangleCaptainKlu> and genderfluidity
11:26:39  <RektTangleCaptainKlu> one of those was a joke
11:26:55  <andythenorth> "ketamine killed the rave scene"
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11:37:55  <WoozyDragon4018> wyndbain: webhook magic
11:38:07  <WoozyDragon4018> i wonder how this reply went through
11:38:25  <WoozyDragon4018> still the fact that this bridge works, is wild
11:38:35  <WoozyDragon4018> connecting boomers to zoomers
11:41:51  <andythenorth> lol this weird idea of what boomers are continues
11:42:06  <andythenorth> is it supposed to offend or something?
11:42:25  <wallabra> that boomers are wat
11:42:32  <peter1138> It just rhymes, I guess.
11:42:43  <andythenorth> yeah 'connecting gen x to zoomers' doesn't flow
11:43:01  <wallabra> ebb and flow
11:43:07  <peter1138> Millennials too.
11:43:32  <andythenorth> what even are Millenials?
11:43:35  <andythenorth> I'm very confused
11:43:46  <peter1138> The one between Gen X and Gen Z(oomer)
11:47:26  <peter1138> I was going to buy some expensive dust covers for my music equipment but then ended up buying a pair of pillowcases from Tesco for £3. Optimized design.
11:48:09  <andythenorth> got some pillowcases here
11:48:13  <andythenorth> could have done a deal
11:48:25  <andythenorth> imagine the savings
11:48:54  <andythenorth> anyway Gen Z informs me that there is also Gen Alpha
11:48:58  <andythenorth> but Gen Alpha denies this
11:49:04  <TheDumGamer> Gen alpha are the iPad kids
11:49:05  * andythenorth on-the-ground research
11:49:10  <TheDumGamer> Like 2010 plus
11:49:17  <TheDumGamer> As an official gen Z I inform you
11:49:23  <andythenorth> apparently it's 2011 onwards
11:49:24  <TheDumGamer> They are worse than us
11:49:32  <TheDumGamer> Idk round that time
11:49:38  <andythenorth> ipad from birth
11:49:45  <TheDumGamer> ipad from conception
11:51:02  <peter1138> LordAro, I really like the Klickfix system for front bags.
11:51:35  <peter1138> Although you can't use an outfront mount with it.
12:02:10  <peter1138> Oh right, the needle needs to be in the down position.
12:03:02  <andythenorth> I have missed our chats 🙂
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12:32:54  <wyndbain> RektTangleCaptainKlu: Both seem reasonable tbh
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12:52:04  <peter1138> Rocko's modern life
12:56:59  <peter1138> Mmm, 1980's Tangerine Dream.
12:59:05  <andythenorth> hmm
12:59:11  <andythenorth> now I'm in a rabbit hole 😛
12:59:12  <andythenorth> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epOf2RLqLdw
13:46:06  <andythenorth> hmm now what
13:46:10  <andythenorth> can I have coffee yet?
13:46:19  <andythenorth> oh, I have to have lunch first 😛
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14:00:11  <LordAro> peter1138: interesting
14:00:40  <LordAro> i've been wondering about swapping the mount out, can't use it with dynamo lights anyway :D
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14:28:40  <EG0611> what is the purpose of this channel?
14:29:26  <wyndbain> Intergration with IRC
14:29:38  <wyndbain> What the devs use
14:30:05  <wyndbain> So people can see what there working on at any given time
14:30:17  <EG0611> devs of new GRF?
14:30:35  <wyndbain> Game developers
14:30:48  <EG0611> ahh other than Openttd?
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14:30:57  <wyndbain> All the bot’s you see are clients from an IRC server
14:31:06  <wyndbain> Nah just the ottd ones
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14:31:23  <EG0611> what is IRC server?
14:32:11  <EG0611> Thanks for info 👍
14:32:36  <nielsm> IRC is the realtime chat system used on the internet since around 1988, to which discord is technically a competitor
14:33:32  <nielsm> (the difference being that nobody owns IRC)
14:38:37  <peter1138> Ah, Discord's very loose definition of running your own "server"...
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14:39:20  <jfs-> yes, I still actively try to avoid using that term when talking about discord
14:40:04  <jfs-> when you can't point to the specific piece of hardware and specific process running on that hardware it's not "a server"
14:41:35  <jfs-> if your "server" is running using shared resources across a distributed mass of hardware and services and databases then it's not "a server" then it's a managed service
14:42:06  <jfs-> in discord internals, it's still called "a guild"
14:42:07  <peter1138> If you want a better term, "Guild" is used throughout the Discord API.
14:42:14  <peter1138> https://discord.com/developers/docs/resources/guild
14:42:19  <peter1138> Haha
14:42:20  <peter1138> Timing :D
14:48:49  <wyndbain> Server sounds better lmao
14:50:25  <LordAro> yeah but it's /wrong/
14:50:44  <LordAro> and you're not allowed to be wrong on the internet
14:50:54  <FLHerne> yeah, because it lies about the fundamental problem with Discord, which is that you can't *have* your own server
14:51:35  <nielsm> yes, it's not *your* "server", the company still owns the hardware and software and data and everything else associated with it
14:52:39  <nielsm> you can't buy a computer and install the discord server software on it and run a service where you yourself own the hardware and database and control the signup etc
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15:01:33  <wyndbain> Yes I mean they call it a server because it’s sounds better
15:01:47  <wyndbain> Plus it’s a massive tech company
15:01:59  <wyndbain> Not exactly gonna be correct are they
15:02:22  <LordAro> since when has that ever stopped people complaining about it?
15:02:44  <wyndbain> Fair enough
15:04:53  <datboi11029> There was a discord thread about that 4 years ago, can't find anything that says it would be bad, but there is a "not planned" tag on it
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16:23:51  <andythenorth> could we have grfs-in-grfs?
16:24:02  * andythenorth wants a faster compiler
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16:45:08  <peter1138> You can have Doom-in-Doom.
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16:46:07  <peter1138> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6hnQ1RKhbo
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16:52:05  <andythenorth> excellent
16:52:09  <andythenorth> everything is now complete
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17:43:19  <Wolf01> <peter1138> You can have Doom-in-Doom. <- we already had maniac mansion in maniac mansion 2, the path was doomed :P
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18:11:56  <ckb> is there a way to follow a vehicle in the main viewport, like it does with the vehicle window?
18:12:59  <LordAro> there's an icon in the toolbar you can click
18:13:02  <LordAro> i forget which one
18:14:38  <andythenorth> the pin drop icon
18:14:43  <andythenorth> double click to follow I think
18:15:01  <LordAro> it used to be ctrl+click on the eye
18:15:07  <LordAro> but the eye was removed
18:15:55  <ckb> ah perfect doubleclicking the pin worked :D
18:15:59  <ckb> thank you guys :D
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20:16:12  <TrueBrain> https://github.com/ayntgl/discordo <- to tempt those that want to join the other side 😛
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20:29:18  <frosch> there is an open feature request to join voice channels
20:31:05  <frosch> i can't tell whether the request for image support is a troll
20:37:06  <nielsm> http://aa-project.sourceforge.net/aalib/
20:38:07  <frosch> yes, sdl1 had a aalib backend, so you could start openttd with it
20:38:39  <frosch> but apparently there are libraries 

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