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00:35:56 *** Smedles has quit IRC 00:37:40 *** Smedles has joined #openttd 00:38:17 <petern> Hmm 00:53:47 <petern> Working some fixes for it but still 01:14:21 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] perezdidac updated pull request #10215: Feature: Expand all towns in the scenario editor https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10215 01:14:50 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] perezdidac commented on pull request #10215: Feature: Expand all towns in the scenario editor https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10215#pullrequestreview-1205580876 02:27:45 *** Wormnest_ has quit IRC 02:32:13 *** elliot[m] has quit IRC 02:32:15 *** elliot[m]1 has joined #openttd 02:43:33 *** einar[m] has quit IRC 02:43:37 *** einar[m] has joined #openttd 02:43:50 *** EmeraldSnorlax[m] has quit IRC 02:43:52 *** EmeraldSnorlax[m] has joined #openttd 02:44:07 *** shedidthedog[m] has quit IRC 02:44:12 *** shedidthedog[m] has joined #openttd 02:44:24 *** thomas[m]12345 has quit IRC 02:44:27 *** thomas[m]12345 has joined #openttd 02:44:41 *** vista_narvas[m] has quit IRC 02:44:42 *** vista_narvas[m] has joined #openttd 03:26:01 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] perezdidac updated pull request #10215: Feature: Expand all towns in the scenario editor https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10215 04:01:47 *** D-HUND has joined #openttd 04:05:10 *** debdog has quit IRC 04:16:16 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] perezdidac updated pull request #10215: Feature: Expand all towns in the scenario editor https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10215 04:44:30 *** keoz has joined #openttd 04:49:48 *** D-HUND is now known as debdog 04:50:06 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 06:04:30 *** keoz has quit IRC 06:33:52 *** urdh_ has quit IRC 06:36:36 *** urdh has joined #openttd 07:28:32 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 08:11:58 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] kulkom commented on pull request #10141: Fix #10140: [SDL2] Lock mouse while moving viewport https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10141#issuecomment-1338938824 08:29:15 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro commented on pull request #10141: Fix #10140: [SDL2] Lock mouse while moving viewport https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10141#issuecomment-1338956648 09:31:33 <petern> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1049619094409859122/image.png 09:31:33 <petern> ^ Not quite right when the primary vehicle has expired 😦 09:32:30 <andythenorth> close 09:32:39 <reldred> I can't believe this is a thing 09:32:40 <andythenorth> I tested the autoreplace thing 09:32:53 <reldred> 2023 year of openttd 09:32:54 <andythenorth> I wish I knew how to update a branch for a remote PR from upstream 😛 09:33:07 <andythenorth> other than rm branch and fetch again 09:34:08 <reldred> see, my pissing and moaning over openttd dev stagnancy paid off 09:34:12 <reldred> * ducks * 09:34:27 <reldred> I'm gonna get rocks thrown at me at this rate 09:34:58 <reldred> (and I will have deserved it) 09:37:40 <LordAro> andythenorth: pull -f, no? 09:43:40 <andythenorth> will try thanks 🙂 09:43:52 <andythenorth> yeah no upstream configured 09:44:02 <andythenorth> and if I try to set upstream, git says I can't 09:44:12 <andythenorth> because it's a PR, not a branch 09:49:20 <LordAro> oh, you've checked out the pull/N/head ref? 09:54:34 <andythenorth> yup 09:54:39 <LordAro> `git pull -f origin pull/NNN/head` might work 09:54:57 <andythenorth> yes 😄 09:55:03 <andythenorth> thanks 09:55:06 <LordAro> \o/ 09:55:17 <LordAro> dunno how to set up upstream tracking though 09:55:22 <LordAro> there's probably a way somewhere... 09:55:30 <andythenorth> there's always a way with git 😛 09:55:39 <andythenorth> pull -f will work fine 09:57:07 <LordAro> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/40662771/what-is-the-correct-git-config-for-working-with-github-pull-requests/ somewhere in here, i think 10:13:35 <petern> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1049629674382307410/image.png 10:13:35 <petern> Best feature. 10:17:19 <Pruple> fancy 10:22:14 <andythenorth> dunno why that option to disable chunky bevels is needed though 😛 10:22:18 <andythenorth> 'player choice' is over-rated 10:22:22 <andythenorth> I should make their choices 10:22:30 * andythenorth telling lies 10:23:40 <reldred> no no no 10:23:47 <reldred> *I* should make their choices 10:23:53 <reldred> I should make *all* choices 10:23:53 <andythenorth> oh yes, that will work 10:23:57 <andythenorth> ideal 10:24:13 <reldred> benevolent dictator for life 10:29:01 *** kamnet has joined #openttd 10:29:01 <kamnet> Andy should make the choices. Now he will make worse choices but for better reasons. 🙂 10:44:40 <petern> andythenorth: One developer didn't want it removed, that's enough for me. 10:44:57 <andythenorth> yup 10:45:11 <petern> A few developers did say it's not needed. 10:45:36 <petern> Separate bevel-scale slider? 10:47:18 <andythenorth> super chunky 10:50:12 <reldred> petern: yes 10:50:21 <reldred> rgb bevels 10:50:44 <LordAro> 😍 10:53:39 <petern> 😄 10:53:48 <petern> reldred: Update your misskey pls 10:55:10 <reldred> peter, I'm eating mac and cheese out of a camp stove at my office desk because I'm too lazy to actually cook dinner 10:55:24 <reldred> there's a hierarchy of things I need to deal with 10:55:35 <reldred> and I'm a long way from where I need to be 🙂 11:18:28 <petern> Sorry, didn't mean to be demanding, just pointing out in case you didn't know. 11:25:35 <reldred> Yeah I know 😛 12:28:32 *** keoz has joined #openttd 13:06:54 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] legitalk started discussion #10221: Too many statues/fountains https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/discussions/10221 13:09:18 <andythenorth> see you also: theatres 😛 13:09:53 <andythenorth> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1049674038932414474/too_many_theatres.png 13:10:07 <petern> Solution: Use a NewGRF 😉 13:10:13 <andythenorth> Improved Town Layouts 13:10:15 <andythenorth> done 13:10:53 <petern> The original data was not designed to work for 823 years 🙂 13:11:21 <andythenorth> it's the pre-1950 starts I think that do it 13:11:41 <andythenorth> I suspect that somewhere we added the rules for mix of building types and we did it wrong 13:12:01 <andythenorth> or CS did it, but it would only run for a few years from 1950, so the effect was not manifesting 13:39:05 <petern> Yes 13:57:22 <petern> Turns out that ignoring an exception doesn't work when you don't check for the correct text within that exception. Who would've thought... 14:01:48 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 14:04:21 *** tokai|noir has joined #openttd 14:04:21 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai|noir 14:11:05 *** tokai has quit IRC 14:11:50 <andythenorth> if string.find(“Eror”) != -1: 14:14:18 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 14:16:03 <andythenorth> Ok so 13.0 beta 3 for variants? 14:30:11 <petern> Hopefully? 14:30:12 <CplBurdenR3294> andythenorth: They're just *really* into musicals, okay? Especially Starlight Express 😛 14:37:46 <petern> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1049696155262529547/image.png 14:37:46 <petern> Oh... 14:45:53 *** nielsm has joined #openttd 14:51:42 *** urdh has quit IRC 14:52:23 *** urdh has joined #openttd 14:56:49 <petern> 🎶 aggregates, are really great. aggregates never complain. 14:56:52 <petern> Oh my 15:23:28 <petern> Dwarf Fortress eh? 15:41:41 *** Montana has joined #openttd 15:46:50 *** hopingstar1806[m] has joined #openttd 16:34:46 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 16:52:09 <andythenorth> in OpenTTD? 16:52:12 <andythenorth> GameScript 16:52:16 <andythenorth> "you lose" 16:59:14 <petern> Simple enough. 17:09:10 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 17:10:06 *** Montana has quit IRC 17:11:14 <andythenorth> can we just orc-raid your biggest town or something? 17:11:18 <andythenorth> I never played DF 17:32:32 *** Flygon has quit IRC 17:35:14 <petern> I did once, in text mode. 17:35:31 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 17:37:54 <Wolf01> Hmmm, I'm trying the last beta on the deck 17:38:48 <Wolf01> 1.5x UI, font is vertically on top of widgets 17:40:34 <Wolf01> UI is still too small, but more than 1.5x it will overflow 17:43:10 <petern> Truetype or sprite font? 17:44:24 <Wolf01> Default I guess, I don't even know where to change it :D 17:45:22 <petern> I guess it's a combination of rounding, once when determining the offset for the sprite font within the scaled height, and then again when centring the scaled height within the widget. 17:46:17 <petern> Bearing in mind the whole thing is centred, including the descenders. 17:46:27 <Wolf01> Yes, at whole intervals the text is fine 17:46:52 <petern> I think it's only a problem below 1.75x. 17:47:20 <petern> With anything over 2x the rounding will be less apparent. 17:47:47 <Wolf01> BTW, the game options windows is way too large when starting at 640x480, maybe moving the screen resolution widget so one can see that immediately would be fine 17:48:20 <petern> I might have an idea for that. 17:48:36 <Wolf01> Probably the huge size of that UI is due to the driver string 17:49:08 <Wolf01> Let me try to share a screenshot 17:49:41 <petern> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1049744454359203930/image.png 17:49:41 <petern> 0.25x scale. Fixed 😉 17:49:45 <petern> (Not that's not really my idea) 17:53:23 <Wolf01> Aahah 17:55:43 <Wolf01> https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2898366766 17:57:01 <petern> Oh that's weird, it really is at the top. Hmm. 17:57:45 *** MnHebi has joined #openttd 17:57:45 <MnHebi> petern: for a whopping 29 euros, now on Steam 17:58:06 <petern> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1049746571442540564/image.png 17:58:06 <petern> For me... 17:58:43 <petern> I guess that's another bug when using freetype 😦 17:58:57 <Wolf01> On windows it's right 17:59:10 <Wolf01> Maybe something fishy with linux 17:59:39 <petern> On Windows and OS X, we use the native font layouter. 17:59:56 <petern> On Linux we can use ICU or a fallback layouter. 18:00:08 <petern> Hmm, maybe it's built with ICU. 18:05:07 <Wolf01> Hmmm, let's try in docked mode 18:06:53 <Wolf01> Wow, it doesn't even recognize the screen resolution 18:07:08 <Wolf01> I'm capped at 1280x720 18:07:15 <petern> Oh 18:07:16 <Wolf01> It should be 1920x1080 18:07:52 <petern> That Steam Deck is only 1280x800 is a bit disappointing, I hadn't realised. 18:07:55 <petern> I know it's a small device... 18:07:55 <Wolf01> On the deck I can set at least 1280x800 18:08:54 <Wolf01> Lol it still plays music on the deck instead of the TV 18:12:48 <Wolf01> Ok, that was my fault, it was selected the wrong default playback device on steam 18:12:57 <petern> Heh 18:13:17 <petern> A +1 on the sprite font ascender makes it a little better at 150% for me. 18:13:27 <petern> But it's not at the top like yours 18:15:07 <Wolf01> It's at the top for every UI size except 1x and 2x 18:15:16 <petern> And 4x 🙂 18:15:28 <Wolf01> And 4x 18:15:42 <Wolf01> Hmmm not really 18:15:54 <petern> Do you know if it's built with ICU? 18:16:04 <Wolf01> Even at 4x it is 1 pixel too high 18:16:22 <Wolf01> Nope, where should I check? 18:17:04 <petern> 1 pixel or 1 scaled pixel (4 pixels)? 18:17:14 <Wolf01> Scaled 18:17:25 <petern> So it's overlapping the bevel 18:17:33 <Wolf01> But it seem even at 1x and 2x does the same 18:17:40 <Wolf01> So it's always at the top 18:17:55 <petern> Right, that one is just how the font works and always has worked 🙂 18:17:59 <Wolf01> But on 1,2 and 4 you don't notice it 18:18:50 <petern> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1049751791581012029/image.png 18:18:50 <petern> That is normal and correct position 18:19:30 <Wolf01> Is there a way to enable every resolution without fiddling with the config file? 18:19:53 <TallTyler> Hold Ctrl when using the slider, I think? 18:21:06 <Wolf01> No, not the scale, the resolution dropdown 18:21:34 <Wolf01> (nice touch with ctrl on the slider :P) 18:22:11 <petern> We like hidden features. 18:22:26 <Wolf01> At least is explained in the tooltip 18:22:30 <petern> But also not being able to easily select round values would've been horrid. 18:26:33 <Wolf01> Ok, forcing the resolution with steam does weird things 18:26:50 <Wolf01> Everything is blurred 18:27:04 <petern> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1049753863558807582/image.png 18:27:04 <petern> Very odd when moved down 🙂 18:27:21 <Wolf01> And changing resolution in game moves the screen... off screen 18:27:28 <petern> Nice. 18:29:37 <Wolf01> Ok, native resolution does the same, but at least recognizes the TV resolution 18:30:08 <Wolf01> It still creates that glowing effect around text 18:32:14 <Wolf01> And magically the glowing does not appear in the screenshot 18:38:31 <petern> andythenorth: your modified Iron Horse is spamming me with "Too many NewGRF string parameters" 18:38:48 <andythenorth> rude 18:38:57 <andythenorth> tell it to stop 18:39:04 <petern> I'm trying to do console debugging but that's wiping it out :p 18:39:33 <andythenorth> mine is doing it too 18:41:29 <andythenorth> ok it's somewhere in the engines 18:41:36 <andythenorth> so either name string or extra text 18:41:47 <andythenorth> doesn't happen in wagons-only mode 18:42:18 <andythenorth> meh, can I get any more info out about where? 18:42:29 <andythenorth> I can just play guessing games 18:42:34 <andythenorth> but that's boring 18:42:49 <andythenorth> I thought nml barfed when string parameters were invalid 18:44:27 <petern> Heh 18:45:42 <andythenorth> I'll comment out things until I find it 😛 18:50:42 <petern> Sounds legit. 19:04:54 <Wolf01> peter1138: uconv v2.1 ICU 70.1 19:05:17 <Wolf01> also @ petern 19:05:32 <petern> Ah ha 19:10:02 <petern> Okay, no idea how to fix that, seems to be all inside ICU 😦 19:13:32 <petern> Not even sure if it's that, seems odd that we'd use ICU for the sprite font, but... 20:30:48 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 20:36:16 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN updated pull request #10220: Feature: Engine variant groups https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10220 20:36:31 <petern> So, er, quite an update after all. Never mind. 20:38:34 <LordAro> petern: if it is inside ICU, it's a new thing 20:39:00 <petern> Hmm? 20:39:33 <LordAro> definitely used to work fine on linux 20:40:30 <petern> Well, the fallback layouter handles the ascender trick fine, but I can't see how I would do that trick with the ICU layouter. 20:43:21 *** keoz has quit IRC 20:51:11 <FLHerne> petern: ooh, I really like that feature :-) 20:59:18 *** frosch has quit IRC 21:23:40 <petern> I need another flags property 😦 21:35:14 *** tokai|noir has quit IRC 21:43:56 <LordAro> petern: 🇬🇧 21:44:18 <petern> Yick. 21:44:37 <petern> I think andy may use up all engine IDs. 21:44:45 <petern> I might delete this PR 21:44:45 <andythenorth> it's a project 21:45:26 <petern> 65535 IDs is not a lot when andy's spammed all the variants :p 21:46:18 <FLHerne> just make there be 2^31 IDs 21:46:43 <FLHerne> it'll take him another decade to find a way to use them all 21:47:59 <petern> It's more that the limit is global too, and people like to mix sets. Dunno which idiot allowed that... 21:51:23 <andythenorth> didn't someone rage quit about that? 21:51:39 <andythenorth> did people used to rage quit a lot, or was it the same person, repeatedly? 21:52:02 <petern> Probably. 21:52:26 <petern> How dare you let players have any control over how they play the game. 21:52:38 <petern> Ignoring removal of block signals. 21:52:47 <andythenorth> such removing 21:52:52 <andythenorth> removing behind a menu 21:57:00 <petern> 64000 is the limit btw, not 65535. 22:07:00 <petern> How many GRFs can we have loaded...? 22:07:36 <petern> 255 eh? 22:08:40 <andythenorth> I believe that elements of the playerbase find that very low 22:08:51 <petern> They fill it with separators and such. 22:09:16 <andythenorth> well 22:09:20 <andythenorth> if we increase the limit 22:09:24 <andythenorth> they'll need more separators 22:09:27 <andythenorth> better raise it more 22:15:06 <petern> LOLs <https://github.com/PeterN/OpenTTD/commit/9be72b90910e007e664ceab83a3546589cc547e1> 22:15:32 <petern> Let's not worry about variants. 22:15:59 <andythenorth> shurely it's not that simple 😛 22:16:59 <petern> The 'new' Command system alleviates a MASSIVE headache. 22:17:38 <petern> `CmdBuildVehicle(DoCommandFlag flags, TileIndex tile, EngineID eid, bool use_free_vehicles, CargoID cargo, ClientID client_id);` does not need to change. 22:17:53 <petern> The old way of manual bit-stuffing, yes, it would be horrible. 22:22:06 <petern> `CommandCost CmdBuildVehicle(TileIndex tile, DoCommandFlag flags, uint32 p1, uint32 p2, const char *text)` 22:22:15 <petern> jgrpp hasn't migrated. 22:35:40 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] stormcone commented on pull request #10141: Fix #10140: [SDL2] Lock mouse while moving viewport https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10141#issuecomment-1340103530 22:35:54 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 23:21:45 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 23:27:11 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 23:43:12 *** nielsm has quit IRC 23:46:54 <petern> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1049834348838391890/image.png 23:46:54 <petern> Kinda weird 23:47:51 <TallTyler> More terraforming needed, perhaps? 23:48:37 <TallTyler> I could see if the slope is perpendicular to the river direction and raise it 23:49:05 <TallTyler> There’s not really a valid case where flowing down such a slope is a good idea 23:49:32 <petern> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1049835013828513872/image.png 23:49:32 <petern> 🙂 23:52:06 <petern> Makes me want to have some kind of flowing water mechanic... 23:52:20 <petern> If you block a river it'll flood over 😄 23:52:28 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC