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01:34:28 *** gnu_jj_ has joined #openttd 01:36:12 *** gnu_jj has quit IRC 01:49:54 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrevorShelton updated pull request #10593: Fix #10493, Fix #8424: Collision sensitivity lowered to correct incorrect crash circumstances. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10593 02:14:31 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 02:54:35 *** D-HUND has joined #openttd 03:02:08 *** debdog has quit IRC 03:33:46 *** keikoz has joined #openttd 03:35:21 *** bryjen has joined #openttd 03:37:46 *** bryjen has left #openttd 04:09:04 *** bryjen has joined #openttd 04:22:09 *** D-HUND is now known as debdog 04:53:34 *** keikoz has quit IRC 05:09:48 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 05:09:52 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 06:32:28 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 08:19:16 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 10:11:11 <TrueBrain> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1092753224735412225/image.png 10:11:11 <TrueBrain> Hmm .. why is town-names like that 😛 This is an installation that I only use to validate Steam binaries .. I am somewhat surprised 🙂 10:12:26 <LordAro> previously loaded newgrf? 10:12:31 <LordAro> sounds like a bug though :) 10:12:52 <TrueBrain> ah, no, you are on to something there .. I might had a townname GRF loaded once, and threw it away 10:13:01 <TrueBrain> but yeah, I still wouldn't expect this 😄 10:13:32 <TrueBrain> ugh, everytime I open our load/save game window, I realise how shitty it is 😛 10:13:43 <TrueBrain> why does it show me my drive-letters .. like that is not the important thing here 10:14:13 <LordAro> because it's barely been updated since TT :p 10:14:18 <LordAro> you know the answer to these questions :p 10:14:33 <TrueBrain> I do, but it keeps me from doing the thing I want to do! 10:14:52 <LordAro> :D 10:14:55 <TrueBrain> as then I am like: I want to do this, but I should first fix that .. and that ... and that ... (20 levels deeper) and that .... 10:15:53 <LordAro> damn right 10:17:05 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on pull request #10593: Fix #10493, Fix #8424: Collision sensitivity lowered to correct incorrect crash circumstances. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10593#issuecomment-1495709818 10:34:35 <pickpacket> Are town names large sets of ready names or large sets of partial names that are combined into town names? 10:35:16 <Brickblock1> they can be both but usually they are made up of parts 11:02:17 <petern> "Yes" 11:02:26 <petern> Speaking of yes, I think it's probably lunch time. 11:05:00 <pickpacket> petern: deffo. It's 12:00 where you are, isn't it? 11:13:20 <petern> It was... 11:26:26 *** keikoz has joined #openttd 11:31:21 <andythenorth> such lunch 11:31:27 <andythenorth> I had a oragne 11:37:01 <petern> I've got... a salad. 11:49:09 <pickpacket> I had pasta and spinach stew 11:58:50 *** gnu_jj_ has quit IRC 11:59:53 *** gnu_jj has joined #openttd 12:06:50 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 12:07:02 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 12:08:36 <andythenorth> I am having a fish 12:08:40 <andythenorth> it is a cod 12:08:43 <andythenorth> well it was 12:08:51 <LordAro> I had a burger 12:23:33 <petern> Mmm 12:24:17 <petern> I've found that if I do a late evening MTB ride I'm on the verge of skipping dinner. 12:25:11 <petern> Don't want to eat before as it can be uncomfortable riding around full of food, and then back after 10pm means I'm no longer hungry. 12:55:53 <TallTyler> Picnic halfway? Might be the worst of both though 😛 13:45:06 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrevorShelton commented on pull request #10593: Fix #10493, Fix #8424: Collision sensitivity lowered to correct incorrect crash circumstances. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10593#issuecomment-1496003313 13:47:17 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] ldpl opened pull request #10596: Change: Increase max cargo age and let min cargo payment approach zero. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10596 13:48:56 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] ldpl updated pull request #10596: Change: Increase max cargo age and let min cargo payment approach zero. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10596 13:50:19 <LordAro> that sounds like a spicy sort of change 13:51:16 <pickpacket> "max cargo age"? 13:51:34 <pickpacket> that sort of change would completely change the game 13:52:20 <pickpacket> not saying whether it'd be better or worse, just saying that pretty much every current big money strategy can be tossed out the window 13:55:53 <dP> not really, it only affects extremely long routes that exploited that time factor limit 13:56:02 <dP> like 2k tiles or more, depending on the engine 13:56:55 <dP> actually, more like 3k for kirby and more for everything else xD 13:59:30 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrevorShelton opened pull request #10597: Fix #10493: Fix with station stop location adjusted. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10597 14:00:35 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain commented on pull request #10597: Fix #10493: Fix with station stop location adjusted. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10597#issuecomment-1496027716 14:00:40 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrevorShelton commented on pull request #10593: Fix #10493, Fix #8424: Collision sensitivity lowered to correct incorrect crash circumstances. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10593#issuecomment-1496027829 14:00:43 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrevorShelton closed pull request #10593: Fix #10493, Fix #8424: Collision sensitivity lowered to correct incorrect crash circumstances. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10593 14:01:01 <TrueBrain> once is an accident, twice is a pattern 😛 14:11:07 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrevorShelton commented on pull request #10597: Fix #10493: Fix with station stop location adjusted. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10597#issuecomment-1496045388 14:14:08 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain commented on pull request #10597: Fix #10493: Fix with station stop location adjusted. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10597#issuecomment-1496050253 14:14:25 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] ldpl updated pull request #10596: Change: Increase max cargo age and let min cargo payment approach zero. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10596 15:11:41 *** garlic_bread42 has joined #openttd 15:11:41 <garlic_bread42> Is there a way to access older Versions of a grf via bananas? 15:11:42 <garlic_bread42> Latest version of my grf is working with 13.0 or newer, and I've got players complaining that they can't download the older version on Bananas anymore. Just curious:) 15:12:15 *** wyndbain has joined #openttd 15:12:15 <wyndbain> You could upload a “legacy GETS” 15:12:32 <wyndbain> To BaNaNaS 15:12:34 <Brickblock1> would need different grfid 15:12:38 <wyndbain> Yes 15:12:51 <Brickblock1> but why not tell them to update openttd? 15:13:00 <garlic_bread42> Android players 15:13:02 <wyndbain> Mobile 15:13:09 <Brickblock1> 13 is on mobile now 15:13:20 <Brickblock1> https://discord.com/channels/142724111502802944/1079054346425221342/1092569450038968383 15:17:04 *** nielsm has joined #openttd 15:20:32 <garlic_bread42> As a beta, yes. I don't expect the standard player to take part in the beta testing. Still, a solution to the initial problem might be interesting? 15:26:49 <Rubidium_> it gets mentioned like monthly, but nobody seems to want it enough to actually implement it 15:30:02 <petern> it? 15:31:24 <garlic_bread42> petern: A way to access older grf versions. 15:31:32 <garlic_bread42> garlic_bread42: See here 15:31:34 *** argoneus has quit IRC 15:31:44 *** argoneus has joined #openttd 15:34:36 <LordAro> according to the BaNaNaS ToS, we're only allowed to distribute the latest version 15:34:41 <LordAro> https://bananas.openttd.org/manager/tos/1.4 15:35:12 <LordAro> except for the purpose of loading existing save games 15:35:32 <petern> Distribute a savegame requiring the old version: -) 15:35:46 <LordAro> well, quite 15:36:28 <garlic_bread42> Rewrite it to "last compatible"? 15:37:01 <LordAro> we could never make that apply retroactively 15:38:13 <petern> Can we let the author control whether it's available or not? Defaults to no so that no ToS-breaking occurs. 15:38:28 <LordAro> probably 15:41:43 <garlic_bread42> This seems like a good idea to someone without any technical knowledge (=me). Can I help in any way to make that happen? 15:43:00 <petern> I've no idea, it's all in some weird snake-language. 15:48:35 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 15:52:23 <glx[d]> we already need to let author manage the available version, currently it's only the latest uploaded one 15:55:09 *** argoneus has quit IRC 15:55:22 *** argoneus has joined #openttd 15:59:39 <andythenorth> it is very sunny, should I ride my bike? 15:59:46 <andythenorth> I haven't even seen my bike since November 16:07:07 <LordAro> yes 16:27:59 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 16:45:07 <debdog> on linux I have the folders ~/.openttd/ and ~/.local/share/openttd/ -slash- ~/.config/openttd/ 16:45:07 <debdog> which ones are actually used and can I just copy files from the un-used one(s) to the used one(s)? 16:46:17 <Wolf01> Move all the 3 to an other folder, run the game and check which one is recreated :P 16:53:53 <debdog> from the directories' dates I suppose ~/.openttd/ is obsolete... 16:54:51 <debdog> except content_download in there is still used by more recent ottd versions 16:55:56 <debdog> https://wiki.openttd.org/en/Archive/Manual/Settings/Openttd.cfg Linux: "~/.openttd" or "~/.config/openttd/openttd.cfg" neat 16:57:03 <glx[d]> you can use `list_dirs` console command 17:09:36 <TrueBrain> We left .openttd in to read from for backwards compatibility. A clean install only writes to .local and friends 17:09:57 <TrueBrain> In other words, we try to follow XDG these days 🙂 17:10:12 <debdog> sounds good 17:10:26 <debdog> confirms the list_dirs findings 17:24:43 *** tokai has joined #openttd 17:24:43 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai 17:31:27 *** tokai|noir has quit IRC 17:37:32 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrevorShelton opened pull request #10598: Fix #8424: Modified Direction Depot Entry Coordinates to Try to Fix Wrongful Collision https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10598 17:53:31 <debdog> du -hs .local/share/openttd/ 17:53:31 <debdog> 5,2G .local/share/openttd/ 17:53:55 <debdog> wow, that's something. years of akkumulationg :D 17:58:29 <petern> Killed a Cyberdemon with only 8%/0% health/armour 😒 18:01:22 <andythenorth> oo 18:01:26 <andythenorth> might play tanks 18:03:29 <LordAro> petern: can you make my knee stop hurting please 18:54:04 <debdog> may amputation be an option 19:13:40 <petern> Oh dear. 19:30:48 <pickpacket> so now my gf has introduced her 4yo kid to the game... 19:35:57 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 19:38:04 <petern> FIRS and Iron Horse for simplicity? 19:43:19 <pickpacket> nah. Just a mod for a nicer HQ (City HQ), eVRGTS or whatever it's called for some more road vehicles, and Tea Tea Deluxe 20:00:57 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] JohnTheCoolingFan opened issue #10599: [Crash]: Flatpak version blinks a black screen and crashes https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/10599 20:03:00 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 commented on issue #10599: [Crash]: Flatpak version blinks a black screen and crashes https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/10599 20:06:31 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] JohnTheCoolingFan commented on issue #10599: [Crash]: Flatpak version blinks a black screen and crashes https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/10599 20:06:34 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] JohnTheCoolingFan closed issue #10599: [Crash]: Flatpak version blinks a black screen and crashes https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/10599 20:22:39 *** nielsm has quit IRC 20:32:07 <andythenorth> oof FIRS is so bad for FPS 20:50:26 *** glx has joined #openttd 20:50:26 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 20:52:59 <petern> So is raytracing. FIRS raytraces? 20:53:24 <andythenorth> maybe 20:53:47 *** glx has quit IRC 20:58:00 *** Flygon has quit IRC 20:58:32 *** gelignite has quit IRC 21:03:27 *** keikoz has quit IRC 21:23:40 *** lobstarooo___ has joined #openttd 21:24:57 *** lobstarooo has joined #openttd 21:31:42 *** lobstarooo___ has quit IRC 21:31:48 *** lobstarooo is now known as lobstarooo___ 21:36:00 *** lobstarooo___ has quit IRC 21:53:09 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 22:02:28 *** Speedyn has joined #openttd 22:02:52 *** Speedy` has quit IRC 22:58:42 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 23:01:14 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 23:14:20 *** tokai|noir has joined #openttd 23:14:20 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai|noir 23:20:21 *** tokai has quit IRC