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I'm away from my dev system for a few days. 06:21:57 <_zephyris> Is it possible to upload files to the online preview deployment? 06:30:10 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN updated pull request #11349: Codechange: Simplify usage of GRFFile cargo_map. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11349 07:44:49 *** Smedles has quit IRC 07:46:33 *** Smedles has joined #openttd 08:03:54 *** rudolfs[m] has joined #openttd 08:05:54 *** audunm[m] has joined #openttd 08:09:08 *** Flygon_ has joined #openttd 08:16:11 *** Flygon has quit IRC 08:40:09 *** Flygon__ has joined #openttd 08:45:33 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 08:47:10 *** Flygon_ has quit IRC 08:50:39 *** Flygon__ has quit IRC 08:51:50 *** Flygon_ has joined #openttd 08:53:14 *** patrick[m]12 has joined #openttd 08:53:18 *** Flygon__ has joined #openttd 08:58:10 *** Flygon has quit IRC 08:59:41 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 09:00:10 *** Flygon_ has quit IRC 09:04:09 *** Flygon__ has quit IRC 09:07:40 <peter1138> Are you feeling already Flygon? 09:17:33 *** amal[m] has joined #openttd 09:25:10 *** magdalena[m] has joined #openttd 09:39:10 <pickpacket> frosch123: is it hidden somehow? I can't find a #11283 amongst either issues or PRs 09:48:31 <LordAro> https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11283 doesn't look particularly hidden 09:48:41 <LordAro> you can always just type in the url 09:53:58 *** merni has joined #openttd 09:53:58 <merni> It's merged so won't be in the list 09:54:37 <merni> Unless you click "3,070 Closed" (next to "85 Open) in the PR list 10:02:20 *** EmeraldSnorlax[m] has joined #openttd 10:03:24 *** kstar892[m] has joined #openttd 10:05:02 *** keikoz has joined #openttd 10:17:41 <pickpacket> Thanks! 10:21:10 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 commented on pull request #11347: Support parameters for base graphics https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11347#issuecomment-1748607559 10:34:09 *** Flygon_ has joined #openttd 10:41:10 *** Flygon has quit IRC 11:00:17 *** thelonelyellipsis[m] has joined #openttd 11:01:48 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] zephyris commented on pull request #11347: Support parameters for base graphics https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11347#issuecomment-1748662300 11:07:06 *** Elysianthekitsunesheher[m] has joined #openttd 11:11:33 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on pull request #11347: Support parameters for base graphics https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11347#issuecomment-1748675438 11:24:14 *** temeo[m] has joined #openttd 11:51:57 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] zephyris commented on pull request #11347: Support parameters for base graphics https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11347#issuecomment-1748731715 11:53:37 *** luk3Z[m] has joined #openttd 11:56:00 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on pull request #11347: Support parameters for base graphics https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11347#issuecomment-1748737427 12:23:06 <Flygon_> peter1138 - forgot to check here 12:23:11 <Flygon_> My internet's been utterly shakey. 12:23:19 <Flygon_> Also about to sleep 12:23:19 <Flygon_> Hahaha 12:23:42 <Flygon_> ... 12:23:50 <Flygon_> I've been poked across multple servers about my internet stability. 12:23:58 <Flygon_> Good christ, I didn't realise it was that shaky. 12:24:44 *** Flygon_ has quit IRC 13:16:32 *** Heiki[m] has joined #openttd 13:26:28 *** thomas[m]1234567 has joined #openttd 13:37:33 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] zephyris commented on pull request #11347: Support parameters for base graphics https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11347#issuecomment-1748918719 14:07:44 *** gretel[m] has joined #openttd 14:11:49 *** zzy2357[m] has joined #openttd 14:47:04 *** philip[m]123 has joined #openttd 15:13:47 *** Gadg8eer[m] has joined #openttd 15:47:47 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 16:05:52 *** freu[m] has joined #openttd 16:40:23 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 16:42:21 *** fiddeldibu[m] has joined #openttd 16:50:34 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 16:51:48 *** Bilb[m] has joined #openttd 16:55:18 *** Farrokh[m] has joined #openttd 16:55:34 *** patricia[m]1 has joined #openttd 17:07:56 *** Extrems has quit IRC 17:08:07 *** elliot[m] has joined #openttd 17:12:19 <andythenorth> so when action 1 redefines a set of realsprites 17:12:37 <andythenorth> what happens to the action 2s that use the previously defined set? 17:12:55 <andythenorth> do those sprites just go missing? 17:15:05 <andythenorth> `That is, if one Action1 defines spritesets 0 to 4, and later a second Action1 redefines spriteset 0, spritesets 1 to 4 still refer to the first Action1.` 17:15:27 <andythenorth> so the content of spriteset 0 is changed? 17:20:16 <andythenorth> kind of curious...why not just define spritest 0 correctly in the first place? 17:20:19 <andythenorth> this seems odd 17:22:05 <alfagamma7> Finally jumped on the chatgpt bandwagon 17:30:24 <_glx_> action2 just uses spritesets currently active 17:32:07 <_glx_> so if you define spritesets 0 to 4 and use them in an action 2 then redefine spriteset 0, the action 2 will still use the previous value 17:33:43 <_glx_> the only difference between action1 and extended action1 is the extended one can set the starting point, while normal action1 always start from 0 17:38:17 <andythenorth> I am curious why it's worth redefining an existing spriteset 17:38:22 <andythenorth> why not just use a new ID? 17:38:29 * andythenorth assumes there are reasons 17:39:29 <_glx_> it's more likely from NFO POV 17:40:25 <_glx_> you set an action1 0 to 4, use them in an action2, change some in other action1 and copy paste the action2 17:41:21 <_glx_> nml can indeed just use new IDs 17:41:23 <andythenorth> oh so if you have a massive varact 2 chain, you can copy-paste 17:41:29 <andythenorth> and change nothing 17:41:33 <andythenorth> or if you're using CPP templating 17:41:45 *** giords[m] has joined #openttd 17:42:12 <andythenorth> /me trying to understand what we need to do for unequal-sized action 1 17:42:16 *** _jgr_ has joined #openttd 17:42:16 <_jgr_> The GRF spec allows you to do a lot of things which are not actually good ideas 17:43:47 <_glx_> after reading a lot, I think even if action1 allows FFFF IDs, there will be a lower limit (3FFF) for features using spritelayouts 17:45:56 <_glx_> basic action1 limit is 255 17:46:29 <_glx_> but always reuse IDs 17:51:12 <andythenorth> is it going to be significant work to support unequal-sized action 1 in nml? 17:51:31 <andythenorth> I feel like I should try somehow, but I don't understand what's needed yet 17:54:13 *** yubvin[m] has joined #openttd 17:54:26 <_glx_> I think I see how to do it 17:55:26 <andythenorth> in my compile I _could_ just use 1 giant action 1, but that seems unhelpful to nmlc 17:57:37 <_glx_> all spritesets in an action1 must have the same size 18:18:23 *** Extrems has joined #openttd 18:27:18 *** karoline[m] has joined #openttd 18:38:45 *** jact[m] has joined #openttd 18:40:58 *** gdown has joined #openttd 18:54:42 <andythenorth> I would just do one spriteset 🙂 18:56:02 *** muffindrake has joined #openttd 19:05:10 *** andythenorth[m] has joined #openttd 19:10:08 *** geli has joined #openttd 19:10:08 *** gelignite has quit IRC 19:19:54 <_glx_> hmm for stations extended action1 won't help much 19:21:50 <_glx_> but for other features it will remove the "spritesets need to have the same size" 19:25:30 <andythenorth> it was roadstops that triggered it 19:25:43 <andythenorth> also FIRS works around it by having the compile resize spritesets to match largest used 19:26:13 <andythenorth> (FIRS just reads all the action 1s for an industry and duplicates realsprites in each until they match) 19:28:34 <_glx_> yeah like <https://github.com/OpenTTD/nml/blob/master/regression/030_house.nml#L35-L42> 19:29:26 *** muffindrake has quit IRC 19:29:31 <andythenorth> same yes 19:32:25 *** muffindrake has joined #openttd 19:34:23 *** geli has quit IRC 19:40:45 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 19:45:27 *** _aD has joined #openttd 19:48:59 *** marchnex has joined #openttd 19:56:38 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/nml] glx22 updated pull request #302: Add: 'const' keyword to allow users to define new constants https://github.com/OpenTTD/nml/pull/302 19:57:14 <_glx_> found a use for it when looking at 030_house nfo 20:01:04 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/nml] glx22 commented on pull request #302: Add: 'const' keyword to allow users to define new constants https://github.com/OpenTTD/nml/pull/302#issuecomment-1749564372 20:01:07 <andythenorth> 🙂 20:01:29 <_glx_> removes 3 actionD and an action6 20:02:36 *** thelounge34 has quit IRC 20:05:14 *** thelounge34 has joined #openttd 20:09:02 *** nielsm has quit IRC 20:13:23 *** citronbleuv[m] has joined #openttd 20:20:30 *** SergioMassa[m] has joined #openttd 20:28:13 <_zephyris> Nice 20:57:01 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 21:01:03 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/nml] LordAro commented on pull request #302: Add: 'const' keyword to allow users to define new constants https://github.com/OpenTTD/nml/pull/302#pullrequestreview-1660704892 21:02:02 <_glx_> lol I failed to fix the typo 21:03:06 *** keikoz has quit IRC 21:03:14 <andythenorth> 🙂 21:03:19 <andythenorth> pramamamatere 21:03:20 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/nml] glx22 updated pull request #302: Add: 'const' keyword to allow users to define new constants https://github.com/OpenTTD/nml/pull/302 21:05:53 *** marchnex has left #openttd 21:16:08 *** einar[m] has joined #openttd 21:22:48 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 21:36:37 *** calbasi[m]1 has joined #openttd 22:01:00 *** CornsMcGowan[m] has joined #openttd 22:06:36 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 22:11:54 *** _aD has quit IRC 22:20:18 *** tokai has joined #openttd 22:20:18 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai 22:27:15 *** tokai|noir has quit IRC 22:31:56 *** freu[m] has quit IRC 22:32:05 *** CornsMcGowan[m] has quit IRC 22:32:12 *** igor[m] has quit IRC 23:28:22 *** Xaroth9 has joined #openttd 23:33:01 *** Xaroth has quit IRC 23:44:49 *** wormnest[m] has joined #openttd 23:45:36 *** Extrems` has joined #openttd 23:45:54 *** Extrems has quit IRC 23:45:54 *** Extrems` is now known as Extrems