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00:00:11 <_glx_> or the carribean 00:02:09 <_glx_> I'd say Saint-Martin/Sint Marteen 00:05:35 <Rubidium> bingo :D 00:08:47 <peter1138> I've flown there. 00:09:01 <peter1138> In MS Flight Simulator... 00:17:17 *** tokai has joined #openttd 00:17:17 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai 00:18:03 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 00:24:09 *** tokai|noir has quit IRC 00:53:56 *** magdalena[m] has quit IRC 00:53:56 *** menelaos[m] has quit IRC 00:53:56 *** vista_narvas[m] has quit IRC 00:53:56 *** hamstonkid[m] has quit IRC 00:53:56 *** giords[m] has quit IRC 00:53:56 *** imlostlmao[m]1 has quit IRC 00:53:56 *** xyii[m] has quit IRC 00:53:56 *** citronbleuv[m] has quit IRC 00:53:56 *** calbasi[m]1 has quit IRC 00:53:56 *** Gadg8eer[m] has quit IRC 00:53:57 *** luk3Z[m] has quit IRC 00:53:59 *** Farrokh[m] has quit IRC 00:53:59 *** fiddeldibu[m] has quit IRC 00:53:59 *** philip[m]123 has quit IRC 00:53:59 *** rudolfs[m] has quit IRC 00:54:04 *** gretel[m] has quit IRC 00:54:04 *** freu[m] has quit IRC 00:54:04 *** audunm[m] has quit IRC 00:54:08 *** igor[m] has quit IRC 00:54:08 *** SergioMassa[m] has quit IRC 00:54:10 *** zzy2357[m] has quit IRC 00:54:10 *** yubvin[m] has quit IRC 00:54:10 *** Bilb[m] has quit IRC 00:54:11 *** throwawayaccount[m] has quit IRC 00:54:11 *** tonyfinn has quit IRC 00:54:13 *** enick_554 has quit IRC 00:54:14 *** einar[m] has quit IRC 00:54:14 *** tuxayo has quit IRC 00:54:14 *** thomas[m]123456789 has quit IRC 00:54:19 *** joey[m] has quit IRC 00:54:20 *** soylent_cow[m] has quit IRC 00:54:24 *** Heiki[m] has quit IRC 00:54:24 *** nolep[m] has quit IRC 00:54:24 *** wormnest[m] has quit IRC 00:54:24 *** kstar892[m] has quit IRC 00:54:24 *** patricia[m]1 has quit IRC 00:54:24 *** elliot[m] has quit IRC 00:54:25 *** CornsMcGowan[m] has quit IRC 00:54:28 *** andythenorth[m] has quit IRC 00:54:28 *** jeremy[m]1 has quit IRC 00:54:29 *** JamesRoss[m] has quit IRC 00:54:29 *** jact[m] has quit IRC 00:54:33 *** blikjeham[m] has quit IRC 00:54:34 *** gdown has quit IRC 00:54:34 *** EmeraldSnorlax[m] has quit IRC 00:54:34 *** karoline[m] has quit IRC 00:54:34 *** FelixActually[m] has quit IRC 00:54:35 *** leward[m] has quit IRC 00:54:35 *** cjmonagle[m] has quit IRC 00:54:45 *** thelonelyellipsis[m] has quit IRC 00:54:48 *** emilyd[m] has quit IRC 00:54:48 *** temeo[m] has quit IRC 00:54:54 *** shedidthedog[m] has quit IRC 00:59:41 *** johnfranklin has joined #openttd 00:59:41 <johnfranklin> And Caribbean Netherlands 😛 00:59:45 <johnfranklin> Aruba 01:01:49 *** peter1138 has quit IRC 01:02:44 <johnfranklin> Oh, not Aruba 01:04:15 *** peter1138 has joined #openttd 01:04:15 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o peter1138 02:02:23 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 02:27:56 *** Farrokh[m] has joined #openttd 02:39:28 *** gretel[m] has joined #openttd 02:44:10 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 02:48:31 *** zzy2357[m] has joined #openttd 03:08:39 *** tonyfinn has joined #openttd 03:09:49 *** debdog has joined #openttd 03:13:09 *** D-HUND has quit IRC 03:44:59 *** Gadg8eer[m] has joined #openttd 03:46:07 *** einar[m] has joined #openttd 03:55:20 *** virtualrandomnumber has joined #openttd 03:55:35 *** virtualrandomnumber has quit IRC 04:29:35 *** fiddeldibu[m] has joined #openttd 04:40:00 *** keikoz has joined #openttd 06:13:03 *** keikoz has quit IRC 06:21:32 *** giords[m] has joined #openttd 06:31:14 <_pruple> awooba 06:33:40 *** nolep[m] has joined #openttd 06:42:23 *** Heiki[m] has joined #openttd 06:46:59 *** tuxayo has joined #openttd 07:06:38 *** CornsMcGowan[m] has joined #openttd 07:29:25 *** tokai|noir has joined #openttd 07:29:26 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai|noir 07:36:15 *** tokai has quit IRC 07:38:52 *** soylent_cow[m] has joined #openttd 08:00:26 *** luk3Z[m] has joined #openttd 08:04:07 *** truyul1943[m] has joined #openttd 08:05:07 *** kstar892[m] has joined #openttd 08:14:55 *** herms has quit IRC 08:16:57 *** herms has joined #openttd 08:19:10 *** wormnest[m] has joined #openttd 08:23:42 *** citronbleuv[m] has joined #openttd 08:33:09 *** berndj has quit IRC 08:34:37 *** berndj has joined #openttd 09:51:02 *** JamesRoss[m] has joined #openttd 09:52:26 <pickpacket> peter1138[d]: -8C here 09:54:07 <peter1138> Biweekly or fortnightly? 09:54:26 <LordAro> biweekly is "twice a week" to me 09:54:36 <LordAro> might be better just to spell it out :D 09:55:42 <Eddi|zuHause> is anything ever announced as "twice a week"? there's no way to evenly split a week, so you'll have to specify two weekdays anyway 10:00:17 *** philip[m]123 has joined #openttd 10:09:12 <andythenorth> biannual 10:09:45 <andythenorth> is it weird that biannual is ambiguous, but biennial is not? 10:10:18 <andythenorth> or is biannual just used wrong? 😛 10:15:04 *** FelixActually[m] has joined #openttd 10:39:06 *** gdown has joined #openttd 11:09:16 <peter1138> Well 11:21:15 *** igor[m] has joined #openttd 11:21:31 <_pruple> very 11:32:58 <xarick> i just launched openttd and immediately found a bug :/ 11:33:56 <xarick> In the AI settings, max. no competitors is conflicting with interval between starting of companies 11:39:12 <xarick> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1180110849726234654/screenshot24.png?ex=657c3adf&is=6569c5df&hm=8cac243ef9ce64684e645d3faeb5292a704f5eb6920910affb0ae1963c20d3cd& 11:39:12 <xarick> Suddenly I can't decrease the interval after increasing the number of competitors 11:47:52 <peter1138> Make a PR :-) 11:49:46 <peter1138> I think it's just missing a call to this->InvalidateData() after IConsoleSetSetting. 11:51:11 <peter1138> i.e. the states is not incorrect dependent on the wrong setting, they're just not updated when they should be. 11:51:17 <peter1138> -is+are 11:51:42 *** _aD has joined #openttd 11:56:23 *** leward[m] has joined #openttd 12:00:43 *** karoline[m] has joined #openttd 12:09:12 *** audunm[m] has joined #openttd 12:19:20 <peter1138> I see Libera Chat decided Matrix was more trouble than it's worth. 12:22:33 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #11527: Fix: AI window did not update button disabled state when changing values. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11527 12:26:04 *** keikoz has joined #openttd 12:28:45 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler approved pull request #11527: Fix: AI window did not update button disabled state when changing values. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11527#pullrequestreview-1759717025 12:30:07 <LordAro> peter1138: oh? 12:33:08 <LordAro> oh 12:33:10 <pickpacket> peter1138: makes sense. 12:33:55 <peter1138> https://libera.chat/news/official-matrix-bridge-farewell 12:38:46 *** magdalena[m] has joined #openttd 12:43:39 <peter1138> Why is PC_DARK_BLUE such a light blue? :D 12:45:32 <peter1138> Okay, very dark blue on blue is hard to see :D 12:45:49 *** rudolfs[m] has joined #openttd 12:47:21 <peter1138[d]> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1180128002659586088/image.png?ex=657c4ad9&is=6569d5d9&hm=d733c66826d04213f9e7a80209a569aa3fe0e5f9bdeb47befd2b92ad9f7f6782& 12:47:21 <peter1138[d]> Light blue works. Nice white pixels there 🙂 12:49:09 <_zephyris> Another one for the bug heap 12:52:36 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #11527: Fix: AI window did not update button disabled state when changing values. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11527 12:54:57 <_zephyris> End of game, is the blue magazine cover not displayed? Was it ever displayed? 12:55:01 *** freu[m] has joined #openttd 12:55:16 <peter1138> It depends on your rating, iirc. 12:56:28 <peter1138> Yuu need to score 1000 to get the alternative picture. 12:56:53 <peter1138> So almost but not quite "never displayed" :) 12:57:45 <_zephyris> Ah 13:28:19 *** virtualrandomnumber has joined #openttd 13:28:46 *** virtualrandomnumber has quit IRC 13:29:00 *** _aD has quit IRC 13:30:13 <Eddi|zuHause> i haven't ever seen the end screen in TTD 13:31:44 *** cjmonagle[m] has joined #openttd 13:43:44 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/nml] glx22 approved pull request #313: Add: Support for build probability action CB 162 var10 0 (reverse rail vehicle) https://github.com/OpenTTD/nml/pull/313#pullrequestreview-1759838574 13:44:15 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/nml] glx22 merged pull request #313: Add: Support for build probability action CB 162 var10 0 (reverse rail vehicle) https://github.com/OpenTTD/nml/pull/313 13:46:07 *** SergioMassa[m] has joined #openttd 13:52:18 *** nielsm has joined #openttd 14:16:10 *** Eddi|zuHause has quit IRC 14:18:33 *** Eddi|zuHause has joined #openttd 14:45:17 <andythenorth> thanks 14:48:25 <andythenorth> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1180158469874135101/iron-horse.grf?ex=657c6739&is=6569f239&hm=ce73a5020a337439207789af5a6e1c6d24070bb03089339f5db0ac9cccf16f65& 14:48:25 <andythenorth> locosage: duplicate count in Horse now? ^ 14:48:33 <andythenorth> I lost the grep that counts them 14:49:13 <andythenorth> oh found it 😛 14:49:16 <andythenorth> grepping for grep? 14:50:05 *** _aD has joined #openttd 14:50:44 <andythenorth> ok 7092 sprites still duplicated by engines 14:51:06 <andythenorth> not required for reversing, must be in legacy spritesets being generated somewhere 14:51:32 <peter1138> What were UKRS running sounds meant to sound like? 14:52:08 <peter1138> 7092, what was it before? 14:53:15 <andythenorth> hmm no my editor cached a duplicates report 14:53:21 <peter1138> Heh 14:53:34 <andythenorth> it's 5768 now, was 7092 before 14:53:35 <_pruple> peter1138: I don't think that's a meaningful question 14:53:50 <peter1138> I've heard that they sound wrong, which implies there's a right. 14:54:11 <andythenorth> ok I've got 4000 duplicate sprites for reversing intermodal containers 😛 14:54:12 <locosage> andythenorth: `Found 38861(39%) duplicate sprites, 5996089(36%) bytes total` 14:54:13 <peter1138> andythenorth, hmm, that's not much compared to the number reported before. 14:54:35 <locosage> also you can always do 14:54:35 <locosage> pip install grf 14:54:35 <locosage> grftopy iron-horse.grf``` 14:54:45 <andythenorth> worth knowing thanks 14:55:08 <peter1138> So is 5768 duplicate sprites, or duplicate spritesets? 14:55:28 <andythenorth> that's the number of sprites reported as occuring twice in the nfo 14:55:50 <andythenorth> frosch gave me this: ```grep generated/graphics generated/iron-horse.nfo | sed 's/^[0-9]*//' | grep -v ' 1 1 0 0 normal' | sort | uniq -c | sort -n > dups.txt``` 14:56:52 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/nml] glx22 approved pull request #312: Fix cleanup leaving generated files behind https://github.com/OpenTTD/nml/pull/312#pullrequestreview-1759984220 14:57:56 <peter1138> Not sure what locosage's figure was last time. 14:58:46 <_glx_> some duplicates might be because nml is currently using basic action 1 15:02:12 <locosage> grf-py counts individual sprites, even alternatives 15:02:31 <andythenorth> FML can't get into GPT at the moment 15:02:39 <andythenorth> haven't been able to log in all this week 15:02:44 <andythenorth> 'systems are busy' 15:03:17 *** thelonelyellipsis[m] has joined #openttd 15:06:40 <_glx_> andythenorth: tested with and without #309 ? 15:07:09 <merni> andythenorth: do you write iron horse with GPT :p 15:09:48 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/nml] glx22 merged pull request #312: Fix cleanup leaving generated files behind https://github.com/OpenTTD/nml/pull/312 15:12:24 *** throwawayaccount[m] has joined #openttd 15:18:40 <pickpacket> merni: ChatGPT uses andythenorth to write iron horse 15:19:02 <andythenorth> GPT can't write nml sadly 15:19:09 <andythenorth> it pretends to, but total hallucination 15:21:37 <peter1138> But they broke encryption don't you know... ;) 15:35:37 <xarick> how long is 1 minute? 15:35:46 <xarick> 1 month' 15:35:47 <xarick> ? 15:43:29 <peter1138> About 60 seconds. 15:45:32 <merni> andythenorth: well, like everything else with GPT 15:47:14 *** _aD has quit IRC 16:03:57 <andythenorth> It has certain niche uses 16:04:15 <andythenorth> Success rate about 40% 16:04:55 <alfagamma7> I hope it stays that way 16:05:04 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 16:06:23 *** Flygon has quit IRC 16:10:22 *** yubvin[m] has joined #openttd 16:16:33 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 16:36:59 <andythenorth> why? 16:40:44 <alfagamma7> can't explain 16:44:03 <andythenorth> sounds like fear 🙂 16:44:13 <andythenorth> one of the more powerful emotional states 16:54:57 *** xyii[m] has joined #openttd 16:57:14 <xarick> hmm in-game time is changing 16:57:37 <johnfranklin> I just realised g8 = syl (should I not say him?) 16:58:12 <xarick> if 1 minute is 1 month, even in fast forward, why not just keep calling it month? 17:00:35 <andythenorth> /me wonders if God is a DJ? 17:02:06 <johnfranklin> so what is god's music licensed 17:02:55 <peter1138[d]> Strapping Young Lad? 17:04:25 <andythenorth> I can't get no sleep 17:04:34 <andythenorth> Nothing in the refrigerator 17:04:39 <andythenorth> Just one dry potator 17:06:11 <johnfranklin> 5pm in britain, still have time to go to grocery 17:07:39 <peter1138> https://nitter.cz/rbranson/status/1729902008747069818 17:09:35 <andythenorth> is that what happened to truebrain ? 17:13:11 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 17:16:33 *** enick_554 has joined #openttd 17:18:20 <LordAro> disturbing 17:32:24 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 17:36:07 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/wiki-data] PedroRodrigues527 opened pull request #29: portugues typos fixed https://github.com/OpenTTD/wiki-data/pull/29 17:39:39 <locosage> finally got rid of shift/reduce conflicts in grf-py switch code parser 17:39:49 <locosage> nothing else to do on a train with little to no internet xD 17:42:01 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/wiki-data] PedroRodrigues527 opened issue #30: Link not valid: Portuguese on "Main Page.mediawiki" https://github.com/OpenTTD/wiki-data/issues/30 17:46:23 <truebrain> andythenorth: If you have an issue and solve it with kubernetes, you have 537 individual issues 17:47:08 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/wiki-data] TrueBrain commented on pull request #29: portuguese typos fixed https://github.com/OpenTTD/wiki-data/pull/29#issuecomment-1836530471 17:47:11 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/wiki-data] TrueBrain closed pull request #29: portuguese typos fixed https://github.com/OpenTTD/wiki-data/pull/29 17:47:19 *** Bilb[m] has joined #openttd 17:47:48 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/wiki-data] TrueBrain commented on issue #30: Link not valid: Portuguese on "Main Page.mediawiki" https://github.com/OpenTTD/wiki-data/issues/30 17:47:51 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/wiki-data] TrueBrain closed issue #30: Link not valid: Portuguese on "Main Page.mediawiki" https://github.com/OpenTTD/wiki-data/issues/30 18:09:02 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 commented on pull request #11523: Feature: Toyland-specific river graphics https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11523#issuecomment-1836559059 18:25:17 <_glx_> and after a quick search for `file\(GLOB` it seems regression might have the same issue 18:26:35 <_glx_> script stuff also use `file\(GLOB` but it's safe as the files are also manually added in CMakeLists.txt to build openttd 18:27:39 <andythenorth> hmm containers are the main source of duplicate sprites now 😛 18:27:46 <andythenorth> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1180213667883655198/image.png?ex=657c9aa1&is=656a25a1&hm=2c3d63f524e3f9e1581b6d8ea33278f240d6f1fdda0b45aeab92afd6ebfbe7fd& 18:27:46 <andythenorth> but also....they're broken anyway 18:27:51 <andythenorth> (when flipped) 18:27:58 <andythenorth> double plusgood if I fix them 18:28:09 <_glx_> and does #309 helps with duplicates ? 18:29:10 <andythenorth> not sure for trains, unclear how I'd test 🙂 18:29:33 <andythenorth> I forget the exact context, but think it was advantageous for stations and for industry tile animations? 18:29:49 <_glx_> just build and use the grep with and without 18:31:00 <_glx_> at least with #309 you can modify your source to not force spriteset size matching 18:34:33 <andythenorth> removed the dups from containers, and fixed the reverse bug 18:34:47 <andythenorth> saves another 0.8 MB here (was 28.5 MB, now 27.7 MB) 18:35:52 <andythenorth> compile time has increased for some reason, but that might just be be jitter 18:36:07 <andythenorth> oh, the mac is in swap 18:38:20 <andythenorth> yes, because webkit needs 3GB for a single web page 18:40:42 <_glx_> and I can't remember if you use [] or a real sprite for padding 18:40:51 <_zephyris> _glx_: #309 Looks nice, I've previously duplicated sprites to get sets of the same size... 18:41:01 <andythenorth> ++ 18:45:40 <andythenorth> ```Started decompiling `generated/iron-horse.grf` into directory `iron-horse`. 18:45:40 <andythenorth> Found 37(18%) duplicate sprites, 6092(15%) bytes total``` 18:45:53 <andythenorth> grftopy current report 18:46:31 <andythenorth> 26585 action 0s in Horse eh? 🙂 18:46:47 <andythenorth> 98878 action 2 18:51:17 <locosage> hm, is that horse report? 37(18%) looks too small 18:51:37 <locosage> maybe old version doesn't decompile correctly... 18:54:39 <locosage> anyway, try the git version to be sure `pip install git+https://github.com/citymania-org/grf-py.git@13fa6aa9e54d6b379975b977008fca8810019c8f#egg=grf` 18:54:55 <locosage> I rly need to release update on pypi but now isn't quite a good time 18:55:22 <locosage> too many not-so-well-tested changes xD 18:57:57 <andythenorth> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1180221266339311758/iron-horse.grf?ex=657ca1b5&is=656a2cb5&hm=8c09c6c6ddcf5a112e54a4e980d36e2aadf56a0e3893e4dd6e1525c7c2567bd9& 18:58:00 <andythenorth> 37 is too low 18:58:06 <andythenorth> should be hundreds, or low thousands 18:58:12 <andythenorth> according to grep report 18:59:33 <locosage> yep 18:59:35 <locosage> Found 33669(36%) duplicate sprites, 5273720(33%) bytes total 18:59:48 <locosage> I underestimated how old pypi version is xD 19:36:56 <andythenorth> Interestingly high count still 19:37:08 <andythenorth> Is there any verbose output? 19:41:45 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 19:48:13 <xarick> Game Options/Graphics Refresh rate doesn't seem to actually change the display rate 19:48:28 <xarick> it feels just like a max fps limiter 19:50:25 <xarick> it even has a 240 Hz choice which my monitor doesn't support 20:09:41 <locosage> andythenorth: you can look at images in resources folder 20:09:51 <locosage> red frame means full duplicate 20:10:10 <locosage> yellow - same image, different offset (not counted) 20:11:13 <locosage> locosage: I mean in decompiled output (folder with the name of grf file) 20:20:49 *** andythenorth[m] has joined #openttd 20:41:54 *** calbasi[m]1 has joined #openttd 20:46:53 <andythenorth> Child #1 uses 1 TB of network traffic per month 20:47:01 <andythenorth> That seems high 20:47:23 <andythenorth> 2.5x what I use 20:49:39 <Eddi|zuHause> tiktok in endless mode? :p 20:49:48 <Eddi|zuHause> (dunno if that is a thing) 20:50:35 <andythenorth> Fortnite, allegedly 20:50:45 <andythenorth> Or he has malware 20:52:19 *** EmeraldSnorlax[m] has joined #openttd 20:58:38 <Eddi|zuHause> don't think those are exclusive :) 21:03:13 *** joey[m] has joined #openttd 21:10:32 <peter1138[d]> Is child downloading endless duplicate iron horse sprites? 21:11:27 <andythenorth> possibly 21:33:16 *** Alkel_U3 has quit IRC 22:05:20 *** nielsm has quit IRC 22:15:42 *** Tirili has joined #openttd 22:30:04 *** patricia[m]1 has joined #openttd 22:31:51 *** Alkel_U3 has joined #openttd 22:44:09 *** keikoz has quit IRC 23:03:16 *** hamstonkid[m] has joined #openttd 23:05:43 <xarick> turning a 2h35m movie from 24 fps to 60 fps takes 4 days 23:06:01 <xarick> and it's probably gonna look bad 23:29:28 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #11487: Feature: Show cargo icon on cargo filter lists. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11487#pullrequestreview-1760700745 23:41:13 *** jeremy[m]1 has joined #openttd 23:43:11 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 23:49:38 <peter1138> It be cold 23:49:42 <peter1138> Cold it be 23:55:43 <peter1138[d]> Be it cold 23:56:04 <peter1138[d]> Cold be it