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00:58:32 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai|noir 01:05:10 *** tokai has quit IRC 01:46:16 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 02:19:50 *** gnu_jj_ has joined #openttd 02:23:25 *** gnu_jj has quit IRC 02:25:33 *** D-HUND has joined #openttd 02:29:16 *** debdog has quit IRC 04:34:53 *** keikoz has quit IRC 04:41:57 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] eints-sync[bot] pushed 1 commits to master https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/commit/65c9df49d9e9843709b517527376b53597159cb3 04:41:58 <DorpsGek> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators) 04:48:10 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] arb103 opened issue #12609: [Crash]: Segmentation fault on dedicated server launch (Linux arm64) https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/12609 05:18:03 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] zombiethoughts commented on issue #9623: [Bug]: Vsync makes the game feels laggy and smoother & 2x game speed smooth game so much compared to 1x game speed!! https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/9623 06:26:40 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain commented on issue #12609: [Crash]: Segmentation fault on dedicated server launch (Linux arm64) https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/12609 06:52:59 *** Ox7C5 has quit IRC 07:00:24 <peter1138> uhh 07:12:39 <peter1138> Hmm, do I pull out a Pi 3B to install a 64 bit OS to test... 07:41:38 <_glx_> Cmake logs could be nice too, to know where and how regression fails 08:25:20 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #12608: Codechange: Ensure SDLK mappings stay in the expected order. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12608#pullrequestreview-2035130811 08:30:04 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 commented on pull request #12607: Codechange: Use vector for airport tile layouts. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12607#pullrequestreview-2035133585 08:36:32 <silent_tempest> I need to spend some time writing a PR description but the font picker I've been working is done finally. π 08:38:52 <reldred> \o/ 08:40:05 *** Flygon has quit IRC 08:41:24 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro commented on pull request #12607: Codechange: Use vector for airport tile layouts. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12607#pullrequestreview-2035157515 08:54:23 <peter1138> Huh, I can't reply to one of the comments... 08:55:05 <LordAro> yeah, it looks duplicated for me 08:57:54 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on pull request #12607: Codechange: Use vector for airport tile layouts. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12607#pullrequestreview-2035194069 08:58:19 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on pull request #12607: Codechange: Use vector for airport tile layouts. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12607#pullrequestreview-2035195267 09:00:25 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on pull request #12607: Codechange: Use vector for airport tile layouts. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12607#pullrequestreview-2035200912 09:05:52 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 commented on pull request #12595: Feature: Add more filtering and favourites to build object/station/waypoint/roadstop windows. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12595#pullrequestreview-2035147389 09:07:12 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on pull request #12595: Feature: Add more filtering and favourites to build object/station/waypoint/roadstop windows. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12595#pullrequestreview-2035219451 09:07:25 <peter1138> ... how do I reply all in one go? 09:07:52 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on pull request #12595: Feature: Add more filtering and favourites to build object/station/waypoint/roadstop windows. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12595#pullrequestreview-2035220745 09:08:52 <Rubidium> peter1138: make a comment somewhere on the "Files changed" page to start a review, then any replies to comments will also end up in the review. Just don't forget to remove the bogus comment before "finalising" the review 09:11:19 <peter1138> I think I've done the comments, the rest are things to do, or duplicates. 09:12:16 <peter1138> I've "unresolved" 2TallTyler's comment about the 64/58/31 constants π 09:13:03 <peter1138> (So that it's visible.) 09:18:50 <peter1138> Although thinking about it, I can just do it here anyway. 10:17:07 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 commented on pull request #12572: Add: Road waypoints https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12572#pullrequestreview-2035323373 10:19:16 <peter1138> Interesting, the original TTD station picker is only 46 pixels high, the everything else is 48. 10:19:51 <peter1138> At some point we went switched to 58 pixels for the station picker. 10:20:16 <peter1138> Which is why things like MB's newstats don't fill the preview area. 10:23:24 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] JGRennison commented on pull request #12572: Add: Road waypoints https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12572#pullrequestreview-2035363034 10:23:25 <andythenorth> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1235537123822796810/image.png?ex=6634bb1d&is=6633699d&hm=5576edfd787d135a1dedec3c5ef83310b9eba22ff259c64ea9b8906b1079d6fe& 10:23:25 <andythenorth> I drew stations once 10:23:41 <peter1138> Yeah, that's the "enourmous" 58 high. 10:24:04 <reldred> andythenorth: you should do that more often, you're good at it 10:24:09 <peter1138> (Weird number, in the code it was 60 pixels but 2 are the bevel...) 10:24:18 <andythenorth> reldred: I get no pleasure from stations 10:24:27 <andythenorth> Industries are my favourite thing to draw 10:24:42 <andythenorth> Boats are the worst, but the boat spec is very simple 10:25:01 <reldred> But we get pleasure from your stations :fingergunsright: 10:25:23 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] JGRennison commented on pull request #12572: Add: Road waypoints https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12572#pullrequestreview-2035366416 10:26:03 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] JGRennison commented on pull request #12572: Add: Road waypoints https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12572#issuecomment-2090118032 10:37:00 <peter1138> Should make the GUI parts of it smaller π 10:43:39 <LordAro> peter1138: quick link fell apart on my way to work :( 10:43:52 <peter1138> Oh no 10:47:28 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #12560: Codechange: Store validity of water regions in separate vector https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12560#pullrequestreview-2035408116 10:54:13 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 commented on pull request #12345: Codechange: Replace path cache deques with vectors. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12345#issuecomment-2090196436 11:03:38 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN updated pull request #12607: Codechange: Use vector for airport tile layouts. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12607 11:03:39 *** Ox7C5 has joined #openttd 11:03:49 <andythenorth> lunch? 11:04:08 <peter1138> I have a regulatory 45g of muesli. Smol. 11:19:18 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #12607: Codechange: Use vector for airport tile layouts. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12607#pullrequestreview-2035470047 11:37:57 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #12607: Codechange: Use vector for airport tile layouts. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12607 11:45:15 <peter1138> Hmm, `std::optional<largestruct>` 'wastes' memory, `std::unique_ptr<largstruct>` makes it non-copyable, and `std::shared_ptr<largestruct>` could work but... 12:01:30 *** Smedles has quit IRC 12:01:36 *** Smedles has joined #openttd 12:24:12 *** keikoz has joined #openttd 12:32:59 <peter1138> For the default specs, increasing from 624 bytes to 24128 is quite a jump. But that's a total, so maybe I worry too much π 12:36:38 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 updated pull request #12603: Doc: README.md: add Apache 2.0 licensing info for CheckAtomic.cmake https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12603 12:40:02 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 commented on pull request #12603: Doc: README.md: add Apache 2.0 licensing info for CheckAtomic.cmake https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12603#issuecomment-2090400759 12:40:23 <LordAro> what is CheckAtomic even used for? 12:40:41 <LordAro> is <atomic> an optional header or something silly? 12:45:16 <Rubidium> LordAro: see https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10513 12:48:02 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN approved pull request #12603: Doc: README.md: add Apache 2.0 licensing info for CheckAtomic.cmake https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12603#pullrequestreview-2035651581 12:48:10 *** Ox7C5_ has joined #openttd 12:53:03 <LordAro> fair enough 12:53:28 <LordAro> incidentally i notice it still says c++17, as per my original comment :p 13:01:57 *** nielsm has joined #openttd 13:03:52 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Kuhnovic merged pull request #12560: Codechange: Store validity of water regions in separate vector https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12560 13:04:17 <kuhnovic> Next up: removal of tile_area for even more memory reduction π 13:04:30 <kuhnovic> (in the WaterRegion class) 13:05:14 <peter1138> Is that because it can be derived from the region index? 13:08:10 <kuhnovic> Yes. It's a bit less convenient, but definitely possible 13:08:16 <kuhnovic> And it will make JGR happy 13:08:17 <_jgr_> Yes, the width/height are also always the same for water regions so they don't need to be repeatedly stored 13:08:33 <kuhnovic> I can finally say "I have a patch for that" 13:08:41 <_jgr_> You could use something like this as a starting point: <https://github.com/JGRennison/OpenTTD-patches/commit/fdb7d7b9305fe7a56b9e7a95db2abab06f8b87d3> 13:09:44 <kuhnovic> At a glance it looks an awful lot like what I have. Which makes sense. 13:11:50 <LordAro> what sort of memory reduction are we talking? overall, or just relevant for cache-based stuff? 13:12:10 <LordAro> (i.e. what is the benefit of making this change?) 13:13:04 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 merged pull request #12603: Doc: README.md: add Apache 2.0 licensing info for CheckAtomic.cmake https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12603 13:17:01 <peter1138> Drops a WaterRegion from 32 to 24 bytes. There's 1 for each 16x16 area. It's not as significant as the previous change. 13:18:02 <kuhnovic> There are two "previous changes", one by JGR and one by me. The JGR one was very significant, the other not so much, it was more for cache-friendliness 13:19:21 <kuhnovic> Removing tile_area is 524288 bytes saved on a 4K map 13:19:52 <peter1138> Only 2KiB on a normal map π 13:20:22 <LordAro> most would not consider 500kB all that much :p 13:22:10 <_jgr_> Perhaps not, but cumulatively all the small overheads can add up to something which isn't small 13:22:32 <peter1138> if (user == LordAro) malloc(524288); 13:30:14 <LordAro> rude 13:30:25 <kuhnovic> And the tile_area isn't really needed either, so we might as well reduce it. It increases the openttd-can-run-a-potato factor too. 13:30:29 *** keikoz has quit IRC 14:18:55 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] jayaddison commented on pull request #12603: Doc: README.md: add Apache 2.0 licensing info for CheckAtomic.cmake https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12603#issuecomment-2090613994 14:28:33 <Rubidium> blathijs: are you aware that Debian buildds can't find libcurl / that it's missing a dependency? Also copyright seems to be missing a few folders in 3rdparty 14:33:10 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 14:35:37 <peter1138> Heh, relevant... "Host compiler appears to require libatomic for 64-bit operations, but cannot find it." 14:37:46 <Rubidium> though what's causing 13.4 to succeed and 14.0 to fail building there? Nothing was changed there, besides C++17 -> C++20 (13.4 and 14.0 were built with the same compiler version in Debian) 14:39:02 <Rubidium> oh, and cmake injects an extra -std=c++20 when passing it to the compiler in CheckAtomic... so that got changed 14:43:19 <Rubidium> will the linker go mess up when you say -std=c++20 to the compiler and -std=c++17 to the linker? 14:51:12 <peter1138> I've never tried building 13.4. For me it can't find do 64 bit atomic operations, but I'm running a 32 bit OS, so... 14:54:30 <peter1138> (Uh, on this Raspberry Pi, that is :-)) 14:54:43 <silent_tempest> Is running a 32 bit OS in 2024 a cry for help? π 14:56:14 <peter1138> ```/usr/bin/c++ -DCHECK_FUNCTION_EXISTS=__atomic_load_8 -std=c++2a -o CMakeFiles/cmTC_34018.dir/CheckFunctionExists.cxx.o -c /tmp/build/CMakeFiles/CheckLibraryExists/CheckFunctionExists.cxx 14:56:14 <peter1138> <command-line>: error: new declaration βchar __atomic_load_8()β ambiguates built-in declaration βlong long unsigned int __atomic_load_8(const volatile void*, int)β [-fpermissive]``` 14:56:15 <peter1138> Hmm 14:56:42 <peter1138> Nah, it's an old Raspberry Pi, they don't have enough memory to warrant 64bit... 14:57:04 <peter1138> And there was no 64bit Pi OS for a long time. 14:57:22 <alfagamma7> Pi 5 is 64 bit right? 14:57:38 <silent_tempest> Rubidium: Part of me says no? I wouldn't expect the linker to care about the c++ standard. But another part of me says it's c++ so there's always the possibility that it will fuck up. I don't see a standard option listed in the gcc docs... 14:57:43 <alfagamma7> Though lots of people have stated it's too expensive as a SBC 14:58:03 <peter1138> PI 3 B+ are 64bit. 15:07:46 <alfagamma7> I have a Pi 4 15:07:54 <alfagamma7> I should really start using it 15:08:04 <peter1138> Well that's + than a 3B. 15:08:31 <peter1138> But not much point. I only tried compiling due a bug report this morning. 15:15:02 *** gelignite has quit IRC 15:35:46 <silent_tempest> So wait. 15:35:53 <silent_tempest> Rasberry Pi 4 is 32 bit? 15:36:12 <silent_tempest> And cmake is complaining about needed a certain thing for 64 bit builds? 15:36:22 <peter1138> No. 15:36:26 <silent_tempest> It's ignoring the current machine config? 15:36:30 <blathijs> Rubidium: libcurl is on my todo-list, I thought I checked the licensing, but maybe I didn't. THere's also a bugreport about a bit of cmake code from LLVM that needs to be mentioned in copyright, so I'll have to find some time to look more closely anyway. 15:36:33 <silent_tempest> ? 15:37:05 <peter1138> I was trying to build, for a first time on a 32bit OS on a Raspberry Pi 3B+. 15:37:24 <Rubidium> blathijs: the LLVM thing was upstreamed already 15:37:27 <silent_tempest> I just tried the same on a Rasberry 4 of some type 15:37:49 <silent_tempest> it's an armv71. Which is 32 bit? 15:38:22 <peter1138> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1235616384113705142/image.png?ex=663504ee&is=6633b36e&hm=6bc840fbbd01183620bda9198c03df5c6c7e7f6f601cdc657628838b1a308f0f& 15:39:04 <peter1138> Whether it's worth it is another matter. 15:42:47 <peter1138> I need to update this Pi anyway, it's still on 10.x 15:44:34 *** merni has quit IRC 15:45:36 <Rubidium> a fix for the atomic check failing to build is simple... not sure whether it's the best one: adding C to LANGUAGES in CMakeLists.txt 15:46:12 <LordAro> not ideal 15:47:13 *** kale91 has quit IRC 15:47:26 <Rubidium> though... lets first see whether that links 15:48:19 <Rubidium> lets see how long compilation takes. cmake took a good minute 15:50:24 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] aleks0aleks opened issue #12610: [Bug]: Incorrect length of block section in a diagonal tracks https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/12610 15:51:20 *** peter1139 has quit IRC 15:55:10 <LordAro> dup of #10450 16:01:44 *** peter1139 has joined #openttd 16:05:14 <Rubidium> yeah, this compile's going to take a while. After 15 minutes it just started with the actual compilation instead of generating all the files. 16:14:45 <silent_tempest> That cmake files seems really busted to me 16:30:14 <silent_tempest> Huh it does work if I change the compiler from gcc to clang 16:35:48 *** Smedles has quit IRC 16:35:50 *** Smedles has joined #openttd 16:44:07 <truebrain> LordAro: Normally those comments are added to the ticket π 17:48:17 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler commented on issue #12610: [Bug]: Incorrect length of block section in a diagonal tracks https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/12610 18:18:05 *** Ox7C5_ has quit IRC 18:29:21 <johnfranklin> 0230 AM awake, I found Starbucks raw coffee is too stimulating to drink. 18:32:20 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/nile-library] frosch123 merged pull request #17: refactor: allow other Rust applications to use Dialect and its string serdes https://github.com/OpenTTD/nile-library/pull/17 18:32:51 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/nile-config] frosch123 merged pull request #6: feat: language configuration specifies the stem for lang file names https://github.com/OpenTTD/nile-config/pull/6 18:35:04 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/nile-library] frosch123 created new tag: v0.3.0 https://github.com/OpenTTD/nile-library/releases/tag/v0.3.0 18:40:19 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 18:53:59 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] ladysadie opened pull request #12611: Feature: Add font picker to the game settings. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12611 18:55:46 *** merni has joined #openttd 18:55:46 <merni> some people want inter-signal distance to be correlated with train length, others with train movement 18:55:50 <merni> interesting argument 18:56:42 <silent_tempest> ladysadieviaGitHub: I feel like this commit was really big but splitiing it also seemed bad. 18:56:47 <merni> johnfranklin: Raw as in without brewing it? 18:57:30 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/nile-tools] frosch123 opened pull request #7: chore: update dependencies https://github.com/OpenTTD/nile-tools/pull/7 18:59:29 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/nile-tools] TrueBrain commented on pull request #7: chore: update dependencies https://github.com/OpenTTD/nile-tools/pull/7#pullrequestreview-2036630760 19:00:52 <merni> ladysadieviaGitHub: I can't wait for this 19:01:05 <truebrain> you are looking at it! 19:03:13 <silent_tempest> merni: I'm excited. π I got a basic version of it working weeks ago it allowed me to make the switch from OG TT to OpenTTD. Lol. I know I missed something dumb but hopefully the review won't take super long and I can add some stuff on top of it. 19:03:50 <silent_tempest> Also holy shit. I can spend hours fine tunning UI code... 19:06:29 <frosch123> truebrain: did you have some thought about showing the old base text for outdated translations? easiest method would be to save the base text in the json instead of the commitid 19:06:51 <truebrain> I do have a thought, just not the time π Will fix this weekend or so π 19:07:30 <frosch123> i have a langfile parser now, which can both read and write 19:07:40 <frosch123> next i want to attach the blame thingie to it 19:07:53 <frosch123> but i wondered whether i should change the json as well 19:08:08 <truebrain> if you don't have to, don't 19:08:15 <truebrain> it shouldn't be impacted in what you are doing 19:09:06 <frosch123> well, i want to touch the import command, so if you also want to touch it :p 19:10:31 <truebrain> I am rather confused in this conversation π 19:14:42 <frosch123> question was: are the plans to change the data json to something else? i want to read and write it. 19:15:29 <frosch123> (from nile-tools) 19:17:01 <truebrain> the part that confuses me, that I don't really understand how that matters π Serde reads/writes those JSONs, and it already writes it π 19:17:17 <truebrain> but yes, there are plans. I already have some draft code. But that shouldn't stop you from doing whatever you want π 19:18:36 <frosch123> i want to use git blame to figure out which translator did changes 19:18:52 <frosch123> for that i need to hook into serde to track line numbers and relate them to git blame 19:19:35 <truebrain> sounds smart π 19:19:51 <frosch123> but ok, i will ignore the blame part for now then, and only do a simple export 19:20:16 <truebrain> huh? Why π Just go for it π 19:21:51 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 19:22:30 <truebrain> like I said, I don't really understand the conversation π I am not scared of some merge conflicts, so don't let that hold you back π 19:26:08 <truebrain> I also looked at storing the date, but I also want to balance file-size; but that will be fine π 19:26:35 <silent_tempest> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1235673813312868482/8oshpy.png?ex=66353a6a&is=6633e8ea&hm=3d45ab38b73acd5fd7ff5f94a131c767a2a2bd9704acfa652efeafdaa8b45a82& 19:26:35 <silent_tempest> truebrain: 19:28:28 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 19:29:06 <truebrain> owh, and if you touch the blame stuff, maybe check if we can make the parsing unit-testable; I fucked that up totally π 19:29:12 <truebrain> (was already happy it worked π ) 19:34:33 <frosch123> haha, now we are getting to why i asked :p currently the blame stuff is in the import subpackage, and step by step... i ended up wanting to change everything about it, including the test-ability 19:34:50 <truebrain> don't hold back π 19:34:59 <truebrain> still not sure how my changes would impact your wanting to change it π 19:35:13 <frosch123> well, you never told me what you want to change 19:38:32 <truebrain> haha π I also don't know yet π 19:38:38 <truebrain> so just make it do what you need, I will figure it out π 19:38:53 <truebrain> (now I sound like JGR π ) 19:49:40 <truebrain> frosch123: guess mostly what I would like that I can see per line when it was modified, and what that line was π (based on a `STR_` ) 19:50:58 <frosch123> what that line was? you mean what it was before (history), or what the base language was at that time? 19:51:40 <truebrain> you want to integrate blame of different files? 19:55:10 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on pull request #12611: Feature: Add font picker to the game settings. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12611#issuecomment-2091445048 19:56:47 <frosch123> i want something like: (1) method returns annotated file content as tuple `(lineno, commit-hash, raw content)`. (2) langfile parser turns that into `map<stringid,map<case, (commit-hash, text)>>`. (3) correlates base-language with translation and replaces the `commit-hash` of the "langfile changed" with the commit of the "valid base text back then". 19:57:02 <frosch123> parts of this already exist in the import-command, but slightly different 19:57:22 <frosch123> (3) could also directly store the base-text instead of the commit-hash 19:57:36 <frosch123> which i think would not be much larger for the json overall 19:58:03 <frosch123> most base-texts are not that much longer than the commit-hash, and the json-keywords and indenting are even more 19:58:46 <frosch123> anyhow, i will start small, and just finish the export command without blame for now 19:59:29 <truebrain> I would skip (3) if you don't need it 19:59:51 <truebrain> at least, I assume you don't need it for import/export π 20:00:27 <frosch123> your import implementation does it 20:00:38 <truebrain> it does? Lol 20:00:45 <truebrain> but otherwise it sounds fine 20:00:46 <truebrain> go for it π 20:24:06 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TheMowgliMan commented on pull request #12611: Feature: Add font picker to the game settings. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12611#issuecomment-2091493461 20:48:20 *** Smedles has quit IRC 20:48:23 *** Smedles has joined #openttd 20:56:33 <Rubidium> yay... only five hours later the build is done. Adding C to languages does solve the problem with building 20:59:15 *** ufo-pilo- has joined #openttd 21:06:02 *** ufo-piloot_ has quit IRC 21:06:15 *** ufo-pilo- has quit IRC 21:06:36 *** nielsm has quit IRC 21:07:27 *** ufo-piloot_ has joined #openttd 21:09:26 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 21:11:18 <peter1138> Now just a few hours for the unit tests π 21:21:02 <Rubidium> I aborted when it started building those ;) 21:35:55 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #12612: Codechange: Use callback function set up slider widget marks. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12612 21:42:09 <_glx_> hmm why {NUM} for one and {DECIMAL} for the other ? 21:43:42 <peter1138> Oh. Because I initially experimented with showing 1.5x etc. 21:43:48 <peter1138> But then put it back to normal. 21:44:00 <_glx_> ah makes sense 21:44:51 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 opened pull request #12613: Fix 2955ff3: CMake atomic check fails due to chosen compiler https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12613 21:45:01 <peter1138> It's probably okay as {DECIMAL}, saves having to invalidate all translations if we ever decide to include labels for sub-markers. 21:45:33 <peter1138> 0.5% volume probably isn't needed though. 21:45:52 <Rubidium> well... 21:46:12 <peter1138> Although I can't remember why I went with 1x 2x etc for scale originally, when 100%, 200% etc would have worked. 21:46:18 <peter1138> Maybe it was too noisy. 21:46:22 <peter1138> Well? 21:48:06 <Rubidium> ... I occasionally have sound at 1% that I still find too loud (or maybe my home's too quiet) 21:48:25 <peter1138> π 21:49:00 <Rubidium> it's almost like I'd want a logarithmic scale for sound 21:49:17 <truebrain> how to name that .. hmm... 21:49:19 <truebrain> dB? 21:49:23 <truebrain> yeah, that sounds excellent π 21:49:52 <peter1138> Well the actual range for volume is 0 to 127 for hysterical raisins. 21:50:36 <_glx_> for music it's in the spec 21:50:53 <peter1138> "spec"? 21:51:20 <_glx_> well MIDI stuff is often 0-127 21:51:35 <peter1138> I avoided "dB" originally because, although we do have a bit of scaling going on, it doesn't really match dB. 21:52:00 <peter1138> For MIDI volume, yeah, I guess. We could scale it. 21:52:17 <peter1138> Although with Fluidsynth we could change the volume during mixing. 21:53:02 <peter1138> And yeah, that's the other thing, for sound we could potentially do dB, for music there's no correlation. 21:53:33 <peter1138> I thought that atomic issue was just something I hadn't set up properly on my Pi, seeing as I'd not compiled on it before. 21:55:07 <peter1138> The Pi crashed trying to switch to the 14.0 branch, and git state is in a mess. So maybe I won't bother π 21:55:21 <peter1138> Possibly the SD card is on its way out. 22:13:28 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN approved pull request #12613: Fix 2955ff3: CMake atomic check fails due to chosen compiler https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12613#pullrequestreview-2037037713 22:14:14 <peter1138> Need to update my Pi to actually compile though, it's got libstdc++ 8.3, which is too old. 22:19:12 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #12608: Codechange: Ensure SDLK mappings stay in the expected order. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12608 22:22:25 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 22:26:18 <bootmii> 14.1 is definitely happening 22:31:32 <talltyler> Not sure if thatβs a question or a statement, but the answer is yes π 22:36:35 <peter1138> If only we'd stop finding more bugs π 22:38:40 <michi_cc> And a changelog'd appear π 23:33:13 *** amal[m] has quit IRC 23:41:27 <peter1138> What a world. Using Microsoft packages to install Java 21 on Debian 12... 23:56:43 <silent_tempest> peter1138: Gross 23:59:18 *** Wormnest has quit IRC