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Log for #openttd on 2nd September 2024:
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03:22:05  <soylent_cow[m]> is there like an example public server config? something minimal, vanilla, with common sense settings for a server that's going to run for weeks, so that people can come back to their firm after a long absence
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04:42:07  <goddess_ishtar> I wish
04:45:14  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] eints-sync[bot] pushed 1 commits to master https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/commit/b80f205967f6f0e3a26ac865ad071982eaca6832
04:45:15  <DorpsGek>   - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)
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04:58:31  <goddess_ishtar> ugh
04:58:40  <goddess_ishtar> looking around the game files
04:59:11  <goddess_ishtar> why do some error messages have eclipses but not all of them with no clear pattern
05:12:26  <dwfreed> you mean ellipses ?
05:12:28  <soylent_cow[m]> I am trying to start a network server, can't seem to get it listed
05:13:31  <goddess_ishtar> dwfreed: yes
05:13:34  <goddess_ishtar> autocorrect
05:14:01  <goddess_ishtar> soylent_cow[m]: don't you just need to set it to public?
05:14:40  <soylent_cow[m]> i did lan_internet = 0 and server_advertise = true in config
05:14:51  <soylent_cow[m]> not sure what else to set
05:15:05  <soylent_cow[m]> oh it's a dedicated server
05:29:05  <soylent_cow[m]> omg, i am a dummy.... i need to open the port
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05:43:56  <goddess_ishtar> ...
05:44:02  <goddess_ishtar> yeah that would do it
05:54:48  <soylent_cow[m]> OK I fixed the firewall, but still no luck....
05:54:51  <soylent_cow[m]> I get this:
05:55:03  * soylent_cow[m] sent a code block: https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/hVEJmkaXZugqOBwjEewMNYDG
05:57:45  <soylent_cow[m]>  * ```... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/hgodINeoXAwYDEfPPwDuhgvy>)
05:58:14  <soylent_cow[m]> Listening on [::]:3979 ? does that look right? shouldn't my ip appear here?
06:04:31  <soylent_cow[m]> AAAAAA it was "server_game_type public", i get it now
06:04:38  <soylent_cow[m]> found it on reddit
06:04:59  <soylent_cow[m]> ok it works XD finalizing settings now...
06:58:15  <soylent_cow[m]> Is there a way to rename a town from server console?
07:14:24  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/survey-web] survey-summary[bot] pushed 1 commits to main https://github.com/OpenTTD/survey-web/commit/787cbe5c885c50b6fb8c0626b8aff9ad7f8c0c3e
07:14:25  <DorpsGek>   - Add: summary for week 35 of 2024 (by OpenTTD Survey)
07:57:16  <peter1138> Nope..
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13:10:21  <orudge> truebrain: £115 AWS + £8 OCI vs an average of £186 AWS before July, nice :)
13:10:38  <truebrain> We are getting there! 😄
13:10:59  <truebrain> And that 186 was before tax, I assume?
13:11:05  <truebrain> Owh, pounds
13:11:08  <truebrain> Nevermind 😛
13:11:40  <truebrain> That OCI number is higher than I expected; will check that out later next week or so
13:11:41  <orudge> Yes, Oracle charged me in pounds but don't seem to have e-mailed me an invoice or anything
13:12:12  <orudge> oh, it's in the junk folder
13:12:20  <truebrain> Lolz
13:12:51  <orudge> Indeed, quite a few oracle e-mails in the junk
13:12:53  <orudge> "If you are a customer using one of the following services, please get support here: Hospitality and Food & Beverage Support: https://iccp.custhelp.com/"
13:13:02  <orudge> ... ah yes, food and beverage support
13:13:04  <peter1138> Surely andy's MBP is cheaper?
13:14:30  <ahyangyi> food and beverage support for bananas, seems about right
14:01:42  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] telk5093 commented on discussion #12888: Mouse wheel click to close windows https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/discussions/12888
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18:16:12  <soylent_cow[m]> Is max_companies hard-capped at 15? I changed it, but game changed it back
18:16:34  <soylent_cow[m]> also, is there a way to put fancy characters into server name?
18:17:01  <soylent_cow[m]> ike @, #, comma
18:17:08  <soylent_cow[m]>  * like @, #, comma
18:17:57  <peter1138> Yes, maximum companies is 15.
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18:22:34  <soylent_cow[m]> Oh, re server name.... There's like a cap on length?
18:22:55  <soylent_cow[m]> Interestingly, if the name goes over cap, the end part is used???
18:31:35  <soylent_cow[m]> looks like it's a byte cap, if it cuts a utf8 char, setting the var fails
18:37:04  <LordAro> i'd consider that a bug
18:39:16  <LordAro> though i daresay there are many, many other places where that occurs
18:52:24  <peter1138> Hmm, do I go L and hope I lose weight or go XL and deal with it....
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19:14:01  <Rubidium> LordAro: I really hope that what is happening here is not happening in "many, many other places" as that'd be really bad. The limit is 80 bytes. If you pass more than that, it'll take anything after 80 bytes... so if you add 200 bytes you'll retain 120 bytes...
19:28:46  <LordAro> Rubidium: i mean cutting off at a byte boundary rather than a character boundary
19:28:59  <LordAro> ideally it should cut off at the start of the character
19:29:49  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 opened pull request #12924: Fix 208952f: incorrect truncation in string setting validation https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12924
19:31:37  <Rubidium> LordAro: the string validation after that "fixes" the "bad cut off" location. Ideally you'd just have unicode code points instead of characters for ease of working with the strings, but that's probably a bridge too far for now
19:32:10  <LordAro> ah yeah, that's true
19:32:20  <LordAro> very good, carry on :)
19:34:01  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 approved pull request #12924: Fix 208952f: incorrect truncation in string setting validation https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12924#pullrequestreview-2276108144
19:35:02  <peter1138> Thanks C++
19:35:03  <_glx_> annoying constructor differences
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20:16:30  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 merged pull request #12924: Fix 208952f: incorrect truncation in string setting validation https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12924
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20:26:16  <peter1140> Oh
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20:27:46  <peter1140> I don't think I've been 1140 before.
20:35:01  <_glx_> yup first time I see it
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21:01:44  <_zephyris> audigex
21:02:23  <_zephyris> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1280271630429327431/image.png?ex=66d7795e&is=66d627de&hm=34c902e0c7645f95a256fe5b969b02861e83a80b104019c40ae530e70d9e039d&
21:02:23  <_zephyris> audigex: More realistic?
21:03:21  <_zephyris> ahyangyi: If you're interested, this is using a LoRA trained on Pendolino/BR390s photos.
21:16:29  <audigex> Definitely much closer
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21:23:45  <_zephyris> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1280277005199212624/image.png?ex=66d77e60&is=66d62ce0&hm=ab0d287e1bc3f05821774c6f9bbb72bb68f4c758eaa116e9e32ca3512adc4a2b&
21:23:45  <_zephyris> It didn't take a lot of image to do the training... Fairly promising IMO
21:43:02  <audigex> I wonder how generic it could be - eg could you just train it on thousands of UK trains and it would be able to handle different models, or would you have to train on specific units?
21:43:23  <audigex> The improvement in like a week or two is impressive though
21:54:28  <peter1138> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1280284738430439517/image.png?ex=66d78594&is=66d63414&hm=3f6734d55c9fd209d206eeb3be854116782487b1bb3500c9c12bcbb58fc7cb1b&
21:54:28  <peter1138> Perfectly balanced...
21:55:53  <peter1138> (This is not going to part of anything, I'm just messing with actually setting the properties instead of faking them...)
22:00:55  <talltyler> Very fancy, I like it 😄
22:08:04  <audigex> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1280288161146343464/IMG_2213.png?ex=66d788c4&is=66d63744&hm=85c012071f7e429dda77d95444156c5de9726f7c5be4895556b260146eb2456b&
22:08:04  <audigex> How have I ever noticed these share sprites
22:55:47  <peter1138> Too busy with newgrfs?
22:56:15  <peter1138> Don't forget the Jubilee and the SH 8P.
22:57:59  <wensimehrp> audigex: Evil
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23:11:25  <goddess_ishtar> peter1138: as all things should be
23:12:26  <goddess_ishtar> honestly these are looking great
23:13:47  <peter1138> <https://x.com/cstegman/status/1830426211757019202> well
23:16:12  <goddess_ishtar> okay
23:17:00  <goddess_ishtar> the first half of that I respect (although imo using AI defeats most of the point of NaNoWriMo)
23:17:03  <goddess_ishtar> the second half is uh
23:17:05  <goddess_ishtar> ???
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