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01:03:42 *** Zuu has quit IRC 08:16:36 *** Zuu has joined #openttd.dev 08:16:36 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Zuu 08:26:01 *** Alberth has joined #openttd.dev 08:26:01 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Alberth 08:38:32 *** Zuu has quit IRC 08:55:43 *** Supercheese has quit IRC 11:16:14 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd.dev 11:16:14 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v frosch123 12:55:14 <frosch123> michi_cc: i hope my comment in fs#5360 is correct 13:00:51 <michi_cc> frosch123: Didn't look at the save yet, but you are right with the signal backside. Not sure though if that was always the case or removed because of some potential bug. 13:02:11 <michi_cc> To make interaction between path and block signals mostly work, the tile with the block signal is included in the reserved path, so if it would be a safe waiting point you'd have two reservations that run into each other. 13:07:13 <frosch123> ok, sounds intentional then :) 14:14:39 <frosch123> yay for vcs! 14:21:51 <Alberth> :) 14:22:27 <frosch123> i found some non-sense code, but thanks to vcs i figured what it tried to do :p 14:43:45 <frosch123> hmm... actually... 14:44:13 <frosch123> what would happen if we generally subtract the max-station-spread from all travel distances wrt. payment? 14:44:58 <frosch123> so when setting it to 64, payment would only start for distances > 64 tiles, and 65 tiles would pay like currently 1 tile does 14:47:46 <frosch123> one might even do that per hop 14:48:14 <frosch123> so, when moving cargo via 3 feeders, max-spread * 3 is subtracted from the payment distance 14:52:09 <Yexo> it's strange that if train 1 goes from A via B to C it pays X, but if it unloads at B and train 2 transfers the cargo from B to C the total payment is X-max_spread 14:54:07 <Yexo> what about summing the actual distance traveled for each hop (difference between tiles where the front vehicle loads/unloads) and only pay over min(manhattan_distance, summed_travel_distance) 14:58:48 <frosch123> train reversal breaks that 14:59:21 <frosch123> anyway, what is bad about paying direct connections more, esp. wrt. cargod?st 14:59:52 <frosch123> one might make two settings: percentage of station spread to subtract for start/end and intermediate stations 15:21:20 <frosch123> well, it would make inner-town bus routes likely totally unprofitable :p 15:38:24 <Yexo> maybe subtract actual station spread (max w/h) instead of maximum station spread? 15:38:49 <Yexo> that doesn't harm inner-town bus routes, doesn't matter in most practical cases were stations are small 15:39:19 <Yexo> it only penalizes very large stations, but stations were it matters should transport cargo over such long distances that it doesn't really matter 15:39:37 <Yexo> <frosch123> anyway, what is bad about paying direct connections more, esp. wrt. cargod?st <- and that's a good point, didn't think of it that way 17:25:45 *** Knogle has joined #openttd.dev 18:45:58 *** DorpsGek changes topic to "OpenTTD Dev Channel || Latest SVN: r24676 || Logs: http://webster.openttdcoop.org/?channel=openttd.dev || Voice (talk-right) upon request via #openttd; make sure you are registered to NickServ before asking" 18:52:33 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd.dev 19:49:33 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 20:27:24 *** Alberth has left #openttd.dev 20:39:41 *** LordAro has joined #openttd.dev 20:39:41 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v LordAro 22:43:01 *** Zuu has joined #openttd.dev 22:43:01 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Zuu 23:07:56 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 23:47:53 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd.dev