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12:55:14  <frosch123> michi_cc: i hope my comment in fs#5360 is correct
13:00:51  <michi_cc> frosch123: Didn't look at the save yet, but you are right with the signal backside. Not sure though if that was always the case or removed because of some potential bug.
13:02:11  <michi_cc> To make interaction between path and block signals mostly work, the tile with the block signal is included in the reserved path, so if it would be a safe waiting point you'd have two reservations that run into each other.
13:07:13  <frosch123> ok, sounds intentional then :)
14:14:39  <frosch123> yay for vcs!
14:21:51  <Alberth> :)
14:22:27  <frosch123> i found some non-sense code, but thanks to vcs i figured what it tried to do :p
14:43:45  <frosch123> hmm... actually...
14:44:13  <frosch123> what would happen if we generally subtract the max-station-spread from all travel distances wrt. payment?
14:44:58  <frosch123> so when setting it to 64, payment would only start for distances > 64 tiles, and 65 tiles would pay like currently 1 tile does
14:47:46  <frosch123> one might even do that per hop
14:48:14  <frosch123> so, when moving cargo via 3 feeders, max-spread * 3 is subtracted from the payment distance
14:52:09  <Yexo> it's strange that if train 1 goes from A via B to C it pays X, but if it unloads at B and train 2 transfers the cargo from B to C the total payment is X-max_spread
14:54:07  <Yexo> what about summing the actual distance traveled for each hop (difference between tiles where the front vehicle loads/unloads) and only pay over min(manhattan_distance, summed_travel_distance)
14:58:48  <frosch123> train reversal breaks that
14:59:21  <frosch123> anyway, what is bad about paying direct connections more, esp. wrt. cargod?st
14:59:52  <frosch123> one might make two settings: percentage of station spread to subtract for start/end and intermediate stations
15:21:20  <frosch123> well, it would make inner-town bus routes likely totally unprofitable :p
15:38:24  <Yexo> maybe subtract actual station spread (max w/h) instead of maximum station spread?
15:38:49  <Yexo> that doesn't harm inner-town bus routes, doesn't matter in most practical cases were stations are small
15:39:19  <Yexo> it only penalizes very large stations, but stations were it matters should transport cargo over such long distances that it doesn't really matter
15:39:37  <Yexo> <frosch123> anyway, what is bad about paying direct connections more, esp. wrt. cargod?st <- and that's a good point, didn't think of it that way
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