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Having download links in-game behind "pay"-walls is asking for trouble 19:21:40 * andythenorth cooking 19:21:41 <andythenorth> brb 19:21:57 <Alberth> makes sense 19:22:09 <Rubidium> mostly because the majority that clicks on such links will have no idea what to do with the files, and the forum will be full of people not having read the readme about where to place the content they downloaded 19:22:34 <Alberth> you also may get trouble with people wanting to delete pages 19:23:03 <Rubidium> oh, you mean links from openttd going to 404s and the likes? 19:23:50 <Alberth> no, I made a newgrf, and now I have a new one, and want to remove everything of the old newgrf 19:24:28 <Alberth> which of course causes major havoc when you connect things in all possible ways 19:24:44 * Alberth wonders how grfcrawler deals with that problem 19:29:16 <andythenorth> I think banananaas is really simple on this front: content is on bananas with description 19:29:20 <andythenorth> or not on bananas 19:29:29 <andythenorth> no 'listings' pointing elsewhere 19:29:54 <Alberth> seems the simplest solution 19:30:02 <Rubidium> Alberth: grfcrawler has many dead links 19:30:21 <Alberth> but it needs better selection and filtering 19:32:07 <Alberth> with dead links, entries are just polution 19:33:20 <Alberth> I do like the categories of grfcrawler though 19:35:45 <andythenorth> we could have fruit categories 19:36:57 <andythenorth> tagging is fail imho 19:37:09 <andythenorth> proven not useful 19:39:54 <Alberth> tagging failed on not enough steering in a common direction, I think 19:40:19 <Alberth> ie have a set of commonly used tags 19:41:32 <Alberth> but categories could fulfill that role 19:44:18 <andythenorth> tagging works (ish) for very large sets 19:44:22 <andythenorth> e.g. flickr 19:44:38 <Alberth> oh, we just have too few entries :p 19:44:51 <andythenorth> maybe 19:45:03 <andythenorth> in any case, categories would be better 19:45:28 <andythenorth> grfcrawler categories seem straightforward 19:45:35 <andythenorth> oddly, they kind of match the newgrf spec :P 19:45:37 <andythenorth> funny that 19:46:01 <andythenorth> could we detect 'this newgrf includes: stations | industries | cargos | road vehicles" etc 19:46:03 <andythenorth> ? 19:46:06 <andythenorth> from action 0 19:47:14 <Alberth> perhaps, but are they really available? and in which climate? 19:47:38 <Alberth> perhaps when? which type of tracks? 19:48:53 <andythenorth> all good points 19:49:05 <andythenorth> also, it's all covered in grftopia iirc :) 19:49:18 <andythenorth> no point reinventing frosch things 19:49:28 <Alberth> this is again close to a sort of highlight wiki page 19:51:43 <Alberth> interesting 19:52:02 <Alberth> perhaps the fruit store can do such analysis? 19:53:06 <Alberth> it would need a lot of detail information though, probably not available 19:55:33 <Alberth> 'when' could be an interesting point to select things 19:56:33 <Alberth> some sort of time graph that you can put together 19:58:04 <andythenorth> vehciel dates etc? 19:58:55 <Alberth> industrial evolution, economic crises, and so on :p 20:00:20 <andythenorth> JSON payload: date, description 20:00:41 <andythenorth> also....require RST for readme? o_O 20:01:32 <Alberth> just support it, and people will shift to it? 20:01:43 <andythenorth> yup 20:01:47 <Alberth> would be nice if openttd supported it 20:03:49 <andythenorth> FIRS uses RST for changelog 20:05:22 <Alberth> oh, that reminds me, I switched to sphinx for the eints documentation 20:05:33 <andythenorth> do you like it ? 20:05:39 <andythenorth> I've seen the output before, looks good 20:05:58 <Alberth> it's a level on top of rst, so you can do inter-document linking 20:06:30 <LordAro> latex support? 20:06:51 <Alberth> it has latex support 20:07:06 <LordAro> latex support for ottd :P 20:08:05 <Alberth> yeah, finally you can write readable equations :p 20:08:26 <LordAro> it's what i've been waiting for :P 20:08:33 <andythenorth> you stole my words :( 20:09:58 <andythenorth> should I make a clickable mockup of bananaanaanas 20:10:00 <andythenorth> ? 20:13:22 <Alberth> could be good for getting some feedback on the ideas, imho 20:14:22 <Alberth> depending on the audience, a set of static images or so would be fine too 20:14:38 <Alberth> like with the redesign of the openttd gui 20:15:25 <Alberth> hmm, call it baanaanaas ? :) 20:19:58 <Alberth> good night andy 20:20:02 <andythenorth> bye 20:20:07 *** andythenorth has left #openttd.dev 20:20:13 *** Alberth has left #openttd.dev 21:23:59 *** ntoskrnl has quit IRC