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19:26:22 <frosch123> that should be safe if the grfs are marked as compatible 19:26:49 <frosch123> though for telling compatibility you need the version of the grf, which you only have if you still have the old grf file 19:27:06 <frosch123> ah, well, i guess just copy them unconditionally 19:27:48 <Alberth> currently I only upgrade the currently active set, which of course has the grf itself 19:27:51 <frosch123> should be fine in most cases, and not important in the rest 19:28:13 <Alberth> not copying will very soon break 19:28:50 <frosch123> hmm, doesn't it auto-upgrade on loading the cfg when the grf are missing? 19:29:28 * Alberth tries 19:32:02 <Alberth> maybe the [preset-*] are not loaded, or at least not saved 19:32:07 <Alberth> s/maybe// 19:32:27 <frosch123> i think they are only loaded when selecting them in the gui 19:35:15 <Alberth> [newgrf] section is not upgraded, non-findable newgrfs are reported and removed 19:35:42 <Alberth> and since they are loaded and saved, they get the grfid+md5sum 19:36:00 <Alberth> (grfs in the [newgrf] section) 19:36:06 <frosch123> well, it should try to find grfid+md5sum in some other path 19:36:18 <frosch123> and if that also fails, then pick the newest with grfid 19:36:24 <frosch123> and only if that also fails remove it 19:36:31 <frosch123> (imho) 19:37:51 <Alberth> indeed, if you give a grfid, and a nonsense path, it picks the newest grf 19:39:04 <Alberth> and a good grfid+md5sum and a nonsense path fixes the path 19:40:01 <Alberth> because it picks the correct grf from the big list, and then saves it with its information, instead of using the nonsense path in the cfg file 19:40:08 <Alberth> so that works too 19:42:05 <Alberth> will see about the compatibility thing 19:42:46 <frosch123> wrt. copying parameters? i don't think that is really necessary 19:43:57 <Alberth> so just assume compatibility :) 19:44:36 <frosch123> the worst that can happen is that is chooses different settings than before 19:44:46 <frosch123> by not copying them that is always the case :p 19:45:09 <Alberth> indeed 19:45:19 <frosch123> so, checking compatibility to not copy them means replacing something that works most times with something that works never :p 19:50:45 <Alberth> saving existing presets is also a big PITA 19:51:01 <Alberth> you have to remember the name, and retype it precisely :) 19:51:15 <frosch123> maybe it should not be a dropdown, but a scrollable list? 19:51:36 <Alberth> I was thinking to make it a save-like window 19:51:52 <frosch123> hmm, actually the loading is easier with a dropdown 19:51:56 <Alberth> instead of the current standard one line edit box 19:52:04 <frosch123> maybe the save window should just have a editbox with a dropdown attached 19:52:28 <frosch123> so, not the standard edit window, but with an additional [v] 19:53:07 <Alberth> dropdown easier than a scrollable list? 19:53:34 <Alberth> with loading I can imagine, but saving? 19:53:37 <frosch123> easier to code: likely; easier to use: no idea 19:54:03 <frosch123> loading should use a dropdown since then it can remain the in same window without opening a new one 19:54:10 <frosch123> saving is fine with a new window 19:54:24 * Alberth nods 19:55:38 <Alberth> ok, enough tonight, see you tomorrow probably 19:56:45 *** Alberth has left #openttd.dev 20:12:55 *** Klanticus has quit IRC 20:54:27 *** frosch123 has quit IRC