Log for #openttdcoop on 17th April 2009:
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00:00:36  <mensi> if you want to do the "human" thing, look at cross checks like "there can not be a 3 in that row, so it has to be here"
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00:00:49  <De_Ghosty> !password
00:00:50  <PublicServer> De_Ghosty: flaked
00:01:13  <Juustro> mensi: I have done that
00:01:32  <Juustro> that sudoku that I have entered in my solver is advanced :P
00:01:50  <De_Ghosty> !password
00:01:50  <PublicServer> De_Ghosty: flaked
00:01:55  <mensi> yeah with really advanced stuff I guess you can't get around backtracking
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00:02:55  <Juustro> yep, tracking is easy, but the next step is alot harder
00:03:13  <Juustro> I think it would be easiest to use bruteforce from now on
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00:04:11  <Juustro> 50^9 changes to complete that sudoku :D
00:04:39  <mensi> not brute force, backtracking ;)
00:04:40  <PublicServer> <Kenji> mman the dutch platforms really do look good
00:04:55  <Juustro> anyway, now im really going to sleep
00:04:56  <Juustro> nn
00:05:24  <PublicServer> <Kenji> thrax s sbahn
00:05:56  <mensi> me too, gn8 guys
00:06:13  <Kupuham> How can I get the nightly you guys using? There is a newer one on the OpenTTD page, should I use that?
00:06:22  <mensi> !dl win32
00:06:22  <PublicServer> mensi:
00:06:27  <KenjiE20> ^
00:06:45  <Kupuham> thanks
00:06:56  <KenjiE20> @wiki Quickstart
00:06:57  <Cooper>
00:07:01  <KenjiE20> if you haven't already
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00:10:13  <Kupuham> Getting a connection drop o.o
00:10:28  <Kupuham> Routers tend to mess with Openttd?
00:10:35  <KenjiE20> try it again
00:10:38  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> Kenji: how you like Slindston?
00:10:53  <PublicServer> <Kenji> looks good
00:10:55  <Kupuham> !password
00:10:55  <PublicServer> Kupuham: exhort
00:11:04  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> bus inner-city service :)
00:11:05  <Kupuham> New pass I guess
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00:11:11  <PublicServer> <Kenji> you know what would look awesome though/
00:11:18  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> no clue...
00:11:29  <PublicServer> <Kenji> put the station in a cutting
00:11:44  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> you mean drop it down in elevation one tile?
00:11:49  <PublicServer> <Kenji> yea
00:11:54  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> I could do that...
00:12:42  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Question, Is there someway to change the newspaper popup?
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00:13:04  <PublicServer> <Kenji> yep
00:13:12  <PublicServer> <Kenji> the message settings button
00:13:22  <PublicServer> <Kenji> click and hold the newpaper icon on the toolbar
00:14:07  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Oh waw, never thought of clicking the obvious newspaper button...Thanks!
00:14:14  <PublicServer> <Kenji> heh np
00:15:04  <PublicServer> <Kenji> lol my bad
00:16:28  <PublicServer> <Kenji> lol thrax
00:17:16  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> haha
00:17:19  <PublicServer> <Kenji> hehe
00:17:28  <PublicServer> <Kenji> 'oh crap SIGNALS!!!'
00:17:30  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> takes a while to fill up that train
00:18:13  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Can you guys tell me where you're talking about so I could take a look?
00:18:33  <PublicServer> <Kenji> slindston
00:18:59  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Ty
00:19:07  <PublicServer> <Kenji> yea, that looks awesome now
00:20:47  <PublicServer> <Kenji> ROFL
00:20:49  <PublicServer> <Kenji> oil red
00:20:51  <PublicServer> <Kenji> ref*
00:21:14  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> grumble....
00:21:15  <PublicServer> <Kenji> what magic voodoo do those bus stops have?!
00:21:29  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> I don't know if those growth only ones will do anything
00:21:34  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> I want town to grow that direction though
00:22:01  <PublicServer> <Kenji> instinct tells me it should help
00:22:11  <PublicServer> <Kenji> but who knows
00:22:18  <PublicServer> <Kenji> well, except #openttd
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00:23:02  <PublicServer> <Kenji> heh, looks like something of the London North Line now
00:23:25  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> looks good though :)
00:23:34  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> and don't smell of derriere :)
00:23:38  <PublicServer> <Kenji> or possible Crewe
00:24:22  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Sorry for the noobish question but, land buying is not available int the 'vanilla' OpenTTD, is it?
00:24:31  <PublicServer> <Kenji> sure it is
00:24:39  <PublicServer> <Kenji> been in since at least TTDLX
00:25:01  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Opening another instance of OpenTTD wont crash anything right?
00:25:06  <PublicServer> <Kenji> nah
00:26:35  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> prison under construction in Slindston
00:26:39  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> that's not very nice :)
00:26:43  <PublicServer> <Kenji> hehe
00:26:44  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> stinking criminals
00:26:55  <PublicServer> <Kenji> ahhh NIMBY
00:31:07  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> TF= Terraforming?
00:31:13  <KenjiE20> yep
00:33:23  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> gotta run - later y'all
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00:33:42  <Patrick> @tunnels 4 6
00:33:42  <Cooper> Patrick: 2
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00:33:51  <Patrick> @tunnels 6 4
00:33:52  <Cooper> Patrick: 2
00:33:56  <Patrick> @tunnels
00:33:56  <Cooper> Patrick: (tunnels <an alias, 2 arguments>) -- Alias for "math calc ceil(max( 2,  / (  + 2 )))".
00:34:04  <KenjiE20> @tunnel
00:34:04  <Cooper> Usage of tunnels command: @tunnels <TrainLength> <TunnelLength>
00:34:14  <Patrick> @tunnels aah
00:34:14  <Cooper> Patrick: (tunnels <an alias, 2 arguments>) -- Alias for "math calc ceil(max( 2,  / (  + 2 )))".
00:34:22  <Patrick> @tunnels 4 8
00:34:23  <Cooper> Patrick: 2
00:34:53  <KenjiE20> there's also a `newtunnels in testing
00:35:00  <KenjiE20> that only requires the trainlength
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04:45:36  <snake> !password
04:45:36  <PublicServer> snake: boxcar
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12:26:14  <mitooo> !password
12:26:14  <PublicServer> mitooo: regals
12:26:30  <mitooo> hmmmm... this game is a regal for me :)
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12:51:31  <EoD> !password
12:51:31  <PublicServer> EoD: gleams
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12:59:37  <planetmaker> have a nice weekend, folks! :)
12:59:40  * planetmaker waves
13:06:15  <PublicServer> <FHS> huge jam fromTDT ICE to SFF ICE
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13:17:18  <mitooo> !password
13:17:18  <PublicServer> mitooo: nibble
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13:21:07  <PublicServer> <FHS> theres a huge jam near sff ICE
13:21:28  <PublicServer> <FHS> look for bottleneck sign
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13:22:23  <PublicServer> <FHS> Hi
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13:46:51  <draconnier> !password
13:46:51  <PublicServer> draconnier: unruly
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13:53:07  <PublicServer> <FHS> TDT ICE Station exit jams
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13:57:21  <PublicServer> <mitooo> what is TL for S-Bahn trains?
13:57:31  <ODM> oioi
13:57:43  <PublicServer> <mitooo> hi
13:57:52  <Mark> 'lo
13:57:55  <PublicServer> <FHS> 12
13:58:16  <Mark> !password
13:58:16  <PublicServer> Mark: unfold
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13:59:08  <PublicServer> <mitooo> ok
13:59:24  <PublicServer> <Mark> oh great, SRNW failed
13:59:36  <PublicServer> <Mark> people being to lazy to look anything up i guess
14:00:07  <PublicServer> <FHS> and there are 18'000 pax waiting at TDT ICE
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14:24:16  <Brot> [Blog comment] Comment on New member for #openttdcoop: KenjiE20 by Kommer -
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14:24:55  <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players)
14:25:01  <phatmatt> !password
14:25:01  <PublicServer> phatmatt: harems
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14:37:33  <Ammler> !reload irc
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14:37:33  <phatmatt> stupid double-click end of orders bug.
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14:37:34  <PublicServer> @revision r16055
14:37:34  *** Cooper changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #138 (r16055) | STAGE: Planning | | Use !help for IRC-commands | InfrastructureSharing at | Client record: 24 | looking for latest save of PSG #135 - please make it available to us, if you played | For Head-To-Head competition join #coopetition | this is a UTF-8 channel!"
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14:37:44  <Ammler> hehe
14:37:47  <phatmatt> !password
14:37:47  <PublicServer> phatmatt: rinded
14:37:51  <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players)
14:37:53  <Ammler> phatmatt: fixed btw.
14:38:01  <KenjiE20> indeed
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14:38:15  <Ammler> !rcon ls
14:38:15  <PublicServer> Ammler: 0) .. (Parent directory)
14:38:15  <PublicServer> Ammler: 1) archive/ (Directory)
14:38:15  <PublicServer> Ammler: 2) psg138start.sav
14:38:15  <PublicServer> Ammler: 3) OTTDC, 28th Jul 2044.sav
14:38:15  <PublicServer> Ammler: 4) psmap_mark2.sav
14:38:17  <PublicServer> Ammler: you have 4 more messages
14:39:50  <Ammler> ok, !more is now "better" :-)
14:40:09  <ODM> better how?^^
14:40:22  <Ammler> outputs more than just 1 line
14:40:28  <ODM> hehe
14:40:32  <ODM> still capped at 5?
14:40:44  <Ammler> of course.
14:40:48  <ODM> aaw:P
14:41:25  <Ammler> let me test something...
14:44:34  <Juustro> hmm, how can I set server to make flat land?
14:51:59  <Aali> Juustro: use the -really-boring-and-stupid command-line option
14:52:03  <Aali> :)
14:53:19  <Juustro> im trying to see where I can do that in cfg file, but is too old
14:54:27  <Ammler> @man settings
14:54:28  <Cooper>
14:55:23  <Ammler> cfg and console useses same settings
14:55:43  <Juustro> There is currently no text in this page, you can search for this page title in other pages or edit this page.
14:55:46  <Juustro> :P
14:55:53  <Aali> you want the actual flat land setting or do you want completely flat maps?
14:56:02  <Ammler> omg, did you try "search"?
14:56:41  <Ammler> I assume, it is the first page on the search
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14:57:48  <Juustro> nope
14:58:25  <Ammler> nope?
14:58:36  <Ammler> so what you want then?
14:59:20  <Ammler> maybe you should use scenario editor and create your map there.
15:00:36  <Ammler> 0.7 cfg:
15:01:04  <Juustro> [game_creation]
15:01:08  <Juustro> that section
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15:01:39  <avdg> hi!
15:01:49  <mitooo> hi :)
15:02:08  <avdg> congratz kenji
15:02:19  <KenjiE20> heya, thanks
15:03:03  <avdg> !playercount
15:03:03  <PublicServer> avdg: Number of players: 2
15:03:07  <avdg> !players
15:03:09  <PublicServer> avdg: Client 316 (Orange) is phatmatt, in company 1 (OTTDC)
15:03:09  <PublicServer> avdg: Client 306 (Orange) is mitooo, in company 1 (OTTDC)
15:03:57  <Seppel> !password
15:03:57  <PublicServer> Seppel: graver
15:04:07  <avdg> hum... i hate the registry limits in ie :/ since i had spyware i had to found all stopid keys
15:04:22  <avdg> even in ie8 i have troubles with that
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15:05:03  <KenjiE20> I hate the registry period
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15:05:43  <avdg> im preparing for linux bit by bit
15:05:47  <KenjiE20> -> /etc/{program}/ and ~/.{program}/ ftw
15:06:08  <avdg> i buyed this week an external hard disk drive
15:06:28  <KenjiE20> what distro you lookin at?
15:06:29  <avdg> now im moving all data to it, till i have stored all data
15:06:59  <avdg> suse, but the stopid internet download data restrictions are boss here
15:07:14  <KenjiE20> opensuse or suse?
15:07:21  <avdg> open :)
15:07:23  <KenjiE20> I'm guessing open
15:07:25  <KenjiE20> hehe
15:07:39  <KenjiE20> haven't played with SuSe for years
15:08:04  <avdg> maybe i should try windows 7, but only if i have a cheap license lol
15:08:09  <KenjiE20> last(only) time I tried it was verions 9? before they went corporate
15:08:32  <KenjiE20> Win7 is a seriously nice improvement over Vista
15:08:44  <avdg> i know, thats the reason
15:08:50  <avdg> this laptop can't run vista
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15:09:12  <KenjiE20> there's a couple of niggling bits, but hey it's still beta
15:09:33  <avdg> :)
15:09:42  <KenjiE20> has a much nicer memory footprint now
15:11:33  <avdg> lol, ty to my hd is my pc 50% faster
15:12:00  <KenjiE20> heh
15:12:27  <KenjiE20> I really want to get a hold of a 1TB external with eSATA to offload my anime archive
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15:12:37  <FHS> !password
15:12:37  <PublicServer> FHS: keeled
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15:15:30  <avdg> lol, i did a quickbuy, its only 500GB
15:16:00  <avdg> a good improvement if you look at my laptop hd wich is 80GB
15:16:19  <Tomas> @tunnels <10> <12>
15:16:19  <Cooper> Tomas: Error: invalid syntax (line 1)
15:16:19  <KenjiE20> hehe
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15:17:20  <avdg> @tunnels 10 12
15:17:20  <Cooper> avdg: 2
15:17:27  <avdg> Tomas: 2
15:17:33  <avdg> oh nvm
15:17:37  <KenjiE20> yea
15:18:03  <KenjiE20> my current anime collection is bigger than 500Gb atm, so I'd need the 1TB :P
15:18:03  <avdg> xd saw his /quitmsg to late
15:18:20  <avdg> 640?
15:18:34  <KenjiE20> I'm rapidly closing on that too
15:19:02  <Razaekel> 440Gbs here
15:19:06  <avdg> maybe i am going to build a desktop pc with the 640 GB disk from wd
15:19:08  <Razaekel> it grows slowly
15:19:12  <PublicServer> <FHS> 2 TB, Need Streamer for Backup
15:19:16  <KenjiE20> that it does Raz
15:19:20  <avdg> raz: 500?
15:19:25  <Razaekel> no, 1TB
15:19:46  <Razaekel> 475GBs used/931Gbs free
15:19:46  <avdg> oh Giga per second grrr
15:19:47  <Razaekel> er
15:19:52  <Razaekel> 475GBs used/931Gbs total*
15:20:23  <Razaekel> if i was talking about gigabytes per second, i'd be using Gb/s
15:20:26  <avdg> lol read this:
15:20:28  <avdg> -Feature: allow (per order) to let a train stop at the near end, middle or far end of a platform from the point of view of the driver of the train that enters the station.
15:20:37  <avdg> didnt test yet :)
15:20:41  <Razaekel> nice
15:20:47  <KenjiE20> yea, it's great fun to play with
15:21:06  <Razaekel> is mark's SRNW running yet?
15:21:07  <PublicServer> <phatmatt> Mark, I think i fixed your SRNW
15:21:08  <avdg> also some sort updates
15:21:18  <PublicServer> <phatmatt> nice timing
15:21:36  <KenjiE20> hmm, anidb isn't loading
15:21:46  <Razaekel> !password
15:21:46  <PublicServer> Razaekel: endear
15:21:51  <avdg> many nice features, while we past the first stable
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15:23:17  <avdg> k im cming
15:23:46  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> what's with the additional train next to each station?
15:24:08  <PublicServer> <phatmatt> it blocks the station until it's full loaded
15:24:23  <avdg> !password
15:24:23  <PublicServer> avdg: endear
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15:24:53  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> what's the rationale for doing that?
15:25:16  <KenjiE20> that was weird, I hadn't even downloaded the map
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15:25:30  <PublicServer> <Kenji> right, let's see what you've broken now :P
15:25:33  <PublicServer> <avdg> hey how do you change the place he stops at?
15:25:42  <PublicServer> <Kenji> alt
15:25:51  <PublicServer> <avdg> ?
15:26:04  <PublicServer> <avdg> oh just clicking on it xd
15:26:35  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> chedingworth's rating is going down :-(
15:27:10  <PublicServer> <avdg> some strange signalling at !here
15:27:38  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> and it seems to me that it would make more sense to have the train wait instation for a full load, instead of blocking it from entering
15:27:55  <Ammler> !reload config
15:27:55  <PublicServer> Ammler: config reloaded
15:28:03  <Ammler> !rcon cd autosave
15:28:03  <PublicServer> Ammler: autosave: No such file or directory.
15:28:08  <Ammler> !rcon ls
15:28:08  <PublicServer> Ammler: 0) .. (Parent directory)
15:28:08  <PublicServer> Ammler: 1) archive/ (Directory)
15:28:08  <PublicServer> Ammler: 2) psg138start.sav
15:28:08  <PublicServer> Ammler: 3) OTTDC, 28th Jul 2044.sav
15:28:08  <PublicServer> Ammler: 4) psmap_mark2.sav
15:28:09  <PublicServer> Ammler: 5) ECS+Small Islands.sav
15:28:09  <PublicServer> Ammler: 6) psg133.sav
15:28:11  <PublicServer> Ammler: 7) aot_prep.sav
15:28:11  <PublicServer> Ammler: 8) psg131_start.sav
15:28:37  <PublicServer> <avdg> pbs join??? are my eyes open?
15:28:47  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> where?
15:29:01  <PublicServer> *** AmmIer joined the game
15:29:13  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> O.o
15:29:22  <PublicServer> <avdg> fhs, pls take a look to your junction
15:29:33  *** phyrex1an has quit IRC
15:29:33  <Ammler> omg
15:29:35  <PublicServer> *** FHS has left the game (connection lost)
15:29:40  <PublicServer> <avdg> ?
15:29:49  <PublicServer> <Kenji> lol
15:29:54  <PublicServer> <avdg> he quited
15:30:00  <Ammler> looks like I "cleaned" too much
15:30:02  <PublicServer> <Kenji> that was Walle's entry anyway
15:30:13  <PublicServer> <avdg> i dont know how this works
15:30:16  <PublicServer> <Kenji> FHS has left the game (connection lost) <-- no he didn't
15:30:34  <PublicServer> <avdg> not always
15:30:37  <snake> !password
15:30:37  <PublicServer> snake: endear
15:30:39  <PublicServer> <avdg> press alt+F4
15:30:41  <Ammler> !rcon pwd
15:30:41  <PublicServer> Ammler: /home/openttd/svn-public/autopilot/save/uploads/
15:30:55  <PublicServer> *** avdg has left the game (connection lost)
15:30:58  <avdg> see
15:31:03  <Ammler> !rcon cd 0
15:31:09  <Ammler> !rcon cd autosave
15:31:15  <Ammler> !rcon ls
15:31:15  <PublicServer> Ammler: 0) .. (Parent directory)
15:31:15  <PublicServer> Ammler: 1) autosave86.sav
15:31:15  <PublicServer> Ammler: 2) autosave85.sav
15:31:15  <PublicServer> Ammler: 3) autosave84.sav
15:31:15  <PublicServer> Ammler: 4) autosave83.sav
15:31:16  <avdg> !password
15:31:17  <PublicServer> Ammler: 5) autosave82.sav
15:31:17  <PublicServer> Ammler: 6) autosave81.sav
15:31:19  <PublicServer> Ammler: 7) autosave80.sav
15:31:19  <PublicServer> Ammler: 8) autosave79.sav
15:31:21  <PublicServer> Ammler: 9) autosave78.sav
15:31:21  <PublicServer> Ammler: you have 248 more messages
15:31:23  <PublicServer> avdg: endear
15:31:23  <PublicServer> *** snake joined the game
15:31:27  <Ammler> !more
15:31:27  <PublicServer> Ammler: 10) autosave77.sav
15:31:27  <PublicServer> Ammler: 11) autosave76.sav
15:31:27  <PublicServer> Ammler: 12) autosave75.sav
15:31:27  <PublicServer> Ammler: 13) autosave74.sav
15:31:29  <PublicServer> Ammler: 14) autosave73.sav
15:31:29  <PublicServer> Ammler: you have 243 more messages
15:31:35  <avdg> same psw?
15:31:37  <PublicServer> <Kenji> wow the game actually paused for a join?
15:31:41  <Ammler> hmm
15:31:46  <PublicServer> *** avdg joined the game
15:31:47  <Ammler> !reload irc
15:31:47  *** PublicServer has quit IRC
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15:31:49  <PublicServer> @revision r16055
15:31:49  *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer
15:31:49  *** Cooper changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #138 (r16055) | STAGE: Planning | | Use !help for IRC-commands | InfrastructureSharing at | Client record: 24 | looking for latest save of PSG #135 - please make it available to us, if you played | For Head-To-Head competition join #coopetition | this is a UTF-8 channel!"
15:32:01  <Ammler> !more
15:32:01  <PublicServer> Ammler: 15) autosave72.sav
15:32:01  <PublicServer> Ammler: 16) autosave71.sav
15:32:01  <PublicServer> Ammler: 17) autosave70.sav
15:32:01  <PublicServer> Ammler: 18) autosave69.sav
15:32:01  <PublicServer> Ammler: 19) autosave68.sav
15:32:02  <PublicServer> Ammler: you have 238 more messages
15:32:18  <Ammler> !more
15:32:18  <PublicServer> Ammler: 20) autosave67.sav
15:32:18  <PublicServer> Ammler: 21) autosave66.sav
15:32:18  <PublicServer> Ammler: 22) autosave65.sav
15:32:18  <PublicServer> Ammler: 23) autosave64.sav
15:32:18  <PublicServer> Ammler: 24) autosave63.sav
15:32:20  <PublicServer> Ammler: you have 233 more messages
15:32:25  <Ammler> mäh
15:32:32  <KenjiE20> that could take a while
15:32:33  <KenjiE20> :P
15:32:58  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> this is a horrible junction >.<
15:33:01  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> so many X
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15:33:44  <PublicServer> <avdg> wow
15:33:55  <PublicServer> <avdg> look at ':)'
15:34:09  <PublicServer> <avdg> i add these signals later :p
15:34:36  <PublicServer> <avdg> that part need a big rebuild
15:34:47  <PublicServer> <avdg> a big mess with presignalling
15:35:13  <PublicServer> <avdg> ok, i declare that station for total rebuild
15:35:26  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> im not sure about the station
15:35:29  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> but the entry does
15:36:15  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> time to go
15:36:16  <PublicServer> <avdg> mixing many presignal constructions at once => fail
15:36:18  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> you guys have fun
15:36:21  <PublicServer> <avdg> bye
15:36:24  <PublicServer> *** Razaekel has left the game (leaving)
15:36:25  <Ammler> !reload irc
15:36:25  *** PublicServer has quit IRC
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15:36:26  <PublicServer> *** Razaekel has left the game (connection lost)
15:36:26  <PublicServer> @revision r16055
15:36:26  *** Cooper changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #138 (r16055) | STAGE: Planning | | Use !help for IRC-commands | InfrastructureSharing at | Client record: 24 | looking for latest save of PSG #135 - please make it available to us, if you played | For Head-To-Head competition join #coopetition | this is a UTF-8 channel!"
15:36:26  *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer
15:36:31  <Ammler> !more
15:36:31  <PublicServer> Ammler: you have no more messages
15:36:43  <Ammler> !rcon ls
15:36:43  <PublicServer> Ammler: 0) .. (Parent directory)
15:36:43  <PublicServer> Ammler: 1) autosave90.sav
15:36:43  <PublicServer> Ammler: 2) autosave89.sav
15:36:43  <PublicServer> Ammler: 3) autosave88.sav
15:36:43  <PublicServer> Ammler: 4) autosave87.sav
15:36:44  <PublicServer> Ammler: 5) autosave86.sav
15:36:44  <PublicServer> Ammler: 6) autosave85.sav
15:36:46  <PublicServer> Ammler: 7) autosave84.sav
15:36:46  <PublicServer> Ammler: 8) autosave83.sav
15:36:48  <PublicServer> Ammler: 9) autosave82.sav
15:36:48  <PublicServer> Ammler: you have 248 more messages
15:36:54  <Ammler> !more
15:36:54  <PublicServer> Ammler: 10) autosave81.sav
15:36:54  <PublicServer> Ammler: 11) autosave80.sav
15:36:54  <PublicServer> Ammler: 12) autosave79.sav
15:36:54  <PublicServer> Ammler: 13) autosave78.sav
15:36:54  <PublicServer> Ammler: 14) autosave77.sav
15:36:56  <PublicServer> Ammler: 15) autosave76.sav
15:36:56  <PublicServer> Ammler: 16) autosave75.sav
15:36:58  <PublicServer> Ammler: 17) autosave74.sav
15:36:58  <PublicServer> Ammler: 18) autosave73.sav
15:37:00  <PublicServer> Ammler: 19) autosave72.sav
15:37:00  <PublicServer> Ammler: you have 238 more messages
15:37:19  <Ammler> oh, the man who I did it for isn't around anymore :-(
15:37:32  *** FHS has quit IRC
15:37:41  <Ammler> but anyway, more is now configurable over cfg
15:39:39  <PublicServer> <avdg> im just joined, found a broken signal piece and my head now already exploded :/
15:40:06  <PublicServer> <avdg> many pointless combo's
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15:48:58  <PublicServer> *** Kenji has left the game (leaving)
15:48:58  <PublicServer> *** Kenji has left the game (connection lost)
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15:49:28  *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM
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15:50:43  *** ChanServ sets mode: +o StarLite
15:54:02  <PublicServer> <avdg> im bored
15:54:25  <PublicServer> *** snake has left the game (leaving)
15:54:25  <PublicServer> *** snake has left the game (connection lost)
15:54:31  <PublicServer> *** avdg has left the game (connection lost)
15:58:20  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> 2nd south has no s-bahn
15:58:56  <PublicServer> <mitooo> kenfinburg one?
15:58:57  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> power stations don't die
15:58:59  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> never
15:59:08  <PublicServer> <mitooo> if yes, i'm doing
15:59:29  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> oh
15:59:32  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> sorry :-)
15:59:43  <PublicServer> <mitooo> but you may join me :)
16:00:02  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> nah, it is ok
16:01:38  <ODM> hm, take the map offline and magic bulldoze it?:)
16:01:57  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> I can enable that on the server if you want
16:02:49  <ODM> just a suggestion:)
16:02:57  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> mine too :P
16:04:08  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> don't get those self regulating stations
16:04:15  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> they look very slow
16:05:02  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> what is that 2nd train for?
16:05:39  <ODM> uh, you really missed them before?
16:05:43  <ODM> they assure full load:O
16:07:34  *** Venxir is now known as Venxir|Fitness
16:07:51  <PublicServer> Server closed down by admin
16:07:51  <PublicServer> Saving game...
16:07:52  <PublicServer> Game saved
16:07:52  <PublicServer> *** phatmatt has left the game (connection lost)
16:07:52  <PublicServer> *** mitooo has left the game (connection lost)
16:07:52  <PublicServer> *** Sepp has left the game (connection lost)
16:07:52  <PublicServer> *** AmmIer has left the game (connection lost)
16:07:54  <PublicServer> Server has exited
16:07:55  *** PublicServer has quit IRC
16:07:59  <Seppel> whoops
16:08:06  *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop
16:08:06  <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged
16:08:06  <PublicServer> Loading default savegame
16:08:06  <PublicServer> @revision r16055
16:08:06  *** Cooper changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #138 (r16055) | STAGE: Planning | | Use !help for IRC-commands | InfrastructureSharing at | Client record: 24 | looking for latest save of PSG #135 - please make it available to us, if you played | For Head-To-Head competition join #coopetition | this is a UTF-8 channel!"
16:08:06  *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer
16:08:32  <Ammler> !rcon magic_bulldozer
16:08:32  <PublicServer> Ammler: Magic bulldozer is disabled.
16:08:45  <Ammler> !rcon magic_bulldozer 1
16:08:45  <PublicServer> Ammler: *** Sepp has left the game (connection lost)
16:09:08  <PublicServer> *** AmmIer joined the game
16:09:18  <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players)
16:09:23  <Seppel> !password
16:09:23  <PublicServer> Seppel: scrams
16:09:30  <PublicServer> *** Sepp joined the game
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16:09:40  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> ok, remove the industries you don't like
16:09:48  <PublicServer> *** mitooo joined the game
16:09:59  <KenjiE20> lol
16:10:20  <PublicServer> *** mitooo has joined company #1
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16:11:59  <Walle> !password
16:11:59  <PublicServer> Walle: scrams
16:12:48  <PublicServer> *** Walle joined the game
16:12:57  <PublicServer> <Walle> hi
16:13:06  <PublicServer> <mitooo> hi
16:13:16  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> oh walle is here
16:13:22  <PublicServer> <Walle> yes i am :p
16:14:10  <Ammler> ok, ready?
16:14:18  <Ammler> !rcon magic_bulldozer 0
16:14:18  <PublicServer> Ammler: *** AmmIer has left the game (kicked by server)
16:14:18  <PublicServer> Ammler: *** AmmIer has left the game (connection lost)
16:14:18  <PublicServer> Ammler: *** Sepp has left the game (kicked by server)
16:14:18  <PublicServer> Ammler: *** Sepp has left the game (connection lost)
16:14:18  <PublicServer> Ammler: *** mitooo has left the game (kicked by server)
16:14:19  <PublicServer> Ammler: *** mitooo has left the game (connection lost)
16:14:19  <PublicServer> Ammler: *** phatmatt has left the game (kicked by server)
16:14:21  <PublicServer> Ammler: *** phatmatt has left the game (connection lost)
16:14:21  <PublicServer> Ammler: *** Walle has left the game (kicked by server)
16:14:23  <PublicServer> Ammler: *** Walle has left the game (connection lost)
16:14:23  <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players)
16:14:41  <Walle> what?
16:14:45  <Walle> was that? :p
16:14:51  <PublicServer> *** AmmIer joined the game
16:14:59  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> I asked :P
16:15:06  <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players)
16:15:17  <PublicServer> *** phatmatt joined the game
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16:16:16  <PublicServer> *** Walle has left the game (leaving)
16:16:16  <PublicServer> *** Walle has left the game (connection lost)
16:16:18  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> hehe, I removed quite a lot
16:17:19  <mitooo> !password
16:17:19  <PublicServer> mitooo: scrams
16:17:20  <Ammler> !rcon magic_bulldozer
16:17:20  <PublicServer> Ammler: Magic bulldozer is disabled.
16:17:38  <PublicServer> *** mitooo joined the game
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16:27:57  <Spaarvarken> !password
16:27:57  <PublicServer> Spaarvarken: panted
16:32:42  <PublicServer> *** Player joined the game
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16:32:53  <PublicServer> *** Player has changed his/her name to spaarvarken
16:33:05  <carter> !dl win32
16:33:05  <PublicServer> carter:
16:35:55  <carter> !password
16:35:56  <PublicServer> carter: panted
16:41:33  <PublicServer> *** carter has left the game (connection lost)
16:41:39  <carter> !password
16:41:39  <PublicServer> carter: beaded
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16:43:04  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> if you would follow a ICE, you would really fast see slow parts
16:43:15  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> I am wondering, nobody did that yet.
16:44:20  <KenjiE20> heh I got into the habit years ago of keeping a new trains window open till it had looped once
16:47:48  <PublicServer> *** carter has left the game (leaving)
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17:09:16  <snake> Damn... I've removed a tram stop and now local administration doesn't allow me to rebuild it. And I already seeded a foreset around the town :(
17:09:27  <PublicServer> *** AmmIer has joined spectators
17:09:52  <Ammler> snake: bribe :-)
17:10:43  <snake> :) I've found unseeded place. Rebuilt. Thanks for the tip anyways
17:12:29  *** avdg has quit IRC
17:13:10  <Levi> you can also remove some forest and replant it again. mostly it'll rise more from planting than fall from destroying
17:13:29  <PublicServer> *** AmmIer has joined company #1
17:16:19  <snake> have to go. bbl
17:16:28  <PublicServer> *** snake has left the game (leaving)
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17:23:11  <Ammler> !rcon set max_ships
17:23:11  <PublicServer> Ammler: Current value for 'max_ships' is: '300' (min: 0, max: 5000)
17:23:17  <Ammler> !rcon set max_ships 10
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17:45:33  <PublicServer> <mitooo> yeah, finished :)
17:45:40  <PublicServer> <mitooo> i now have to place signals
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17:49:42  <Booth> !password
17:49:42  <PublicServer> Booth: apexes
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17:57:16  <PublicServer> <Progman> middle stop patch, awesome \o/
17:57:25  <PublicServer> <Progman> didn't know it is in trunk
17:58:01  <KenjiE20> made it in about two nightlies ago iirc
18:00:39  <PublicServer> *** Progman has left the game (leaving)
18:00:40  <PublicServer> *** Progman has left the game (connection lost)
18:00:55  <PublicServer> <mitooo> signals finished, now send a test train
18:06:57  <Mark> !password
18:06:57  <PublicServer> Mark: extols
18:07:07  <PublicServer> *** Mark joined the game
18:07:09  <PublicServer> <Mark> 'lo
18:07:14  <PublicServer> <mitooo> hi
18:08:24  <PublicServer> <Mark> nice to see someone at least partly understood the SRNW concept
18:08:37  <PublicServer> <mitooo> where?
18:08:51  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i know SRNW
18:09:00  *** Wolle has joined #openttdcoop
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18:13:01  <PublicServer> *** Mark has left the game (connection lost)
18:15:53  *** Venxir|Fitness is now known as Venxir
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18:20:42  <PublicServer> <mitooo> too many vehicles^^
18:20:47  <PublicServer> *** Kolo joined the game
18:20:49  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> oh what type
18:20:51  <mitooo> !info
18:20:51  <PublicServer> mitooo: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'OTTDC'  Year Founded: 1950  Money: 2241070958  Loan: 0  Value: 2267874957  (T:223, R:37, P:0, S:20) unprotected
18:20:58  <mitooo> all
18:21:11  <Ammler> !trains
18:21:11  <PublicServer> Ammler: !trains <integer>: set value of max_trains
18:21:18  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no only ships
18:21:20  <Ammler> !rcon set max_trains
18:21:20  <PublicServer> Ammler: Current value for 'max_trains' is: '700' (min: 0, max: 5000)
18:21:27  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> you can build trains and rv's
18:22:00  <Ammler> set ships to 10, because someone built quite stupid ships paths.
18:22:15  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> Ship Sbahn
18:22:19  <Ammler> which would break the cpu
18:22:31  <PublicServer> <mitooo> for explaining transfer?
18:22:45  <Ammler> well, it is possible to build clever ships routes.
18:22:54  <Ammler> but not those someone did.
18:25:32  <Ammler> !rcon set allow_town_roads
18:25:32  <PublicServer> Ammler: Current value for 'allow_town_roads' is: 'off' (min: 0, max: 1)
18:25:35  <Ammler> !rcon set allow_town_roads 1
18:25:45  <Ammler> !rcon set town_growth_rate
18:25:45  <PublicServer> Ammler: Current value for 'town_growth_rate' is: '1' (min: 0, max: 4)
18:26:57  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> omg
18:27:02  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> Chris
18:27:05  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> what amm?
18:27:08  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yeah
18:27:10  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> sorry
18:27:19  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> didn't see you are the builder
18:27:28  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> of what?
18:27:37  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> but you know, transfer and take cargo is silly
18:27:56  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> why do you transfer pax to load them again?
18:28:11  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> so i can drop them at each station
18:28:27  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> you don't drop
18:28:30  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> more realistic
18:28:31  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> you tranfer and load
18:28:52  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i drop at north
18:28:55  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> ok, I see.
18:28:56  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> order 4
18:29:15  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> they only pickup at 1 only
18:29:45  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> coz i dont want to transfer
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18:31:04  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ooh ammler need to chat to you
18:34:09  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> anyone got any idea for wrenfingbridge
18:36:48  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i like the new way you can get trains to stop
18:36:53  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> such as in the middle
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18:59:03  <Patrick> @tunnel 4 5
18:59:03  <Cooper> Usage of tunnels command: @tunnels <TrainLength> <TunnelLength>
18:59:10  <Patrick> @tunnels 4 6
18:59:10  <Cooper> Patrick: 2
18:59:18  <Patrick> @tunnels 4 8
18:59:19  <Cooper> Patrick: 2
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19:05:51  <mitooo> !playercount
19:05:51  <PublicServer> mitooo: Number of players: 2
19:05:52  <Thraxian|Work> `newtunnel 4
19:05:52  <Webster> 2 tunnels for 2 - 6 spaces, 3 tunnels for 7 - 12 spaces, 4 tunnels for 13 - 18 spaces
19:06:19  <Thraxian|Work> the @tunnels formula is under investigation  - we believe it to be inaccurate
19:06:59  <KenjiE20> I think adding newtunnels to the ingame would be seriously useful
19:07:18  <KenjiE20> vote plan with TL -> run command -> set a list of signs with results
19:07:30  <Thraxian|Work> I'd be happy to add it to @, but not if someone else is adding it to ap
19:07:56  <Ammler> !rcon set road_stop_on_town_road
19:07:56  <PublicServer> Ammler: Current value for 'road_stop_on_town_road' is: 'on' (min: 0, max: 1)
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19:11:48  <Kupuham> !password
19:11:49  <PublicServer> Kupuham: rumped
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19:23:50  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Hi all
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19:34:51  <Spaarvarken> !password
19:34:51  <PublicServer> Spaarvarken: flirts
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19:47:03  <mitooo> !password
19:47:03  <PublicServer> mitooo: aisles
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20:12:44  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> how many plattforms do you need for 20 trains?
20:14:04  <ODM> 20?
20:14:38  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> quite a nice station I have :-)
20:17:00  <Ammler>
20:17:03  <Ammler> mäh
20:17:06  <Ammler> -part
20:18:48  <Thraxian|Work> is that actually going on the MZ server now?
20:19:02  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> ps
20:19:06  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> here :P
20:19:14  <XeryusTC> we don't have an MZ anymore :P
20:19:23  <Thraxian|Work> oh
20:19:34  <Ammler> well, we have mz
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20:19:54  <Ammler> just don''t use it anymore
20:20:05  <XeryusTC> well, the occasional fire up which hasn't been done since the creation of the PZ :P
20:20:55  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> station ration 95 with 3 plattforms :P
20:21:03  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> oh dropping :-)
20:23:41  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> local authority doesn't like my effective station, why is that?
20:30:40  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> what is the matter?
20:33:16  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> DFD has 33k waiting pax
20:33:56  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> most effective s-bahn
20:37:30  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> I enabled town roads building, btw.
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20:40:25  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> I think we need more trains for DFD
20:40:32  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> only 18 ice trains going to DFD
20:40:35  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> from where?
20:40:51  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> all other CSs are low
20:40:56  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> compared to 42 for KFB, 92 for SFF, and 54 for TDT
20:41:19  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> are they grouped?
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20:41:30  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> yup
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20:42:02  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> that's why DFD has 32k pax waiting
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20:42:21  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> well, and because I added my town :-)
20:42:31  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> your CITY
20:42:36  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> hehe
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20:42:43  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> I found out why mine isn't growing's just a town
20:42:54  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> wish there were an easier way to see which ones are cities
20:42:58  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> how do you find out?
20:43:06  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> I know you can click on the city name, and it says (City) after it
20:43:24  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> I just discovered that today
20:43:31  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> ah :-)
20:43:44  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> how do you like my RV inner-city service concept?
20:43:44  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> didn't know either
20:43:51  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> it is nice
20:43:58  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> wont work with trams because they don't follow 1-way signs
20:44:03  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> I would like to add RV/tram/ships too
20:44:11  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> but I fear, that would break the cpu
20:44:18  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> I only station walked to help the town to grow a bit
20:44:22  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> don't know if it helps or not
20:44:36  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> I don't like station walk
20:44:43  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> my rep was very poort about 3 minutes ago.  it's already up to good
20:44:44  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> but I walked my whole city ;-)
20:45:04  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> even over the sea
20:45:37  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> why does the city "hate" me?
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20:45:58  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> no idea, but my town likes me well enough
20:46:33  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> there is only one station with outstanding
20:46:47  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> the other station has no rating at all, just eyecandy
20:47:41  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> wow - what's that for?
20:47:46  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> haha
20:47:49  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> :-D
20:47:50  <Levi> !password
20:47:50  <PublicServer> Levi: thrive
20:47:56  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> expensive way of doing that
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20:47:59  <PublicServer> <Levi> evening
20:48:08  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> is bribing cheaper?
20:48:13  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> probably not
20:48:49  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> I removed the dock
20:49:04  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> now, there is only one station
20:49:15  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> with outstanding
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20:50:07  <dihedral> hey
20:50:13  <dihedral> !players
20:50:15  <PublicServer> dihedral: Client 13 (Orange) is AmmIer, in company 1 (OTTDC)
20:50:15  <PublicServer> dihedral: Client 42 (Orange) is mitooo, in company 1 (OTTDC)
20:50:15  <PublicServer> dihedral: Client 43 (Orange) is Thraxian|Work, in company 1 (OTTDC)
20:50:15  <PublicServer> dihedral: Client 45 (Orange) is Levi, in company 1 (OTTDC)
20:50:16  <PublicServer> <mitooo> hi
20:50:33  <dihedral> would any of the op's mind if i let a bot join to do some half way decent profiling?
20:50:40  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> hahu
20:51:03  <dihedral> with the hope that you have more chat in here ^^
20:51:18  <PublicServer> <mitooo> argh, 32k passengers in DFD^^
20:51:31  <PublicServer> <Levi> what do you mean by profiling?
20:51:47  <dihedral> profiling a tcl bot
20:51:56  <dihedral> i.e. how often are certain procs called
20:52:03  <dihedral> how much time is spent in those procs
20:52:16  <Ammler> I don't care, if it doesn't spam too much :-)
20:52:17  <dihedral> how much percent of the over all processing time is spent in those procs
20:52:33  <dihedral> sweet
20:52:33  <dihedral> thanks
20:52:35  <PublicServer> <Levi> okay, i got what you mean :)
20:52:40  <PublicServer> <Levi> thanks for the explanation
20:53:51  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> can we setup an airport or maglev to get these pax out of DFD?
20:54:10  <PublicServer> <Levi> wow, those ICEs are accelerating slowly... almost realistic :)
20:54:11  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> temporarly?
20:54:16  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> yes
20:54:25  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> why not :-)
20:54:48  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> weird - you can't build an airport over a tunnel?
20:55:01  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> you can
20:55:25  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> ah - tunnel was too short
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20:56:04  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> noise?
20:56:05  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> come on
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20:56:36  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> hehe
20:56:37  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> woah boy
20:56:41  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> disable it
20:57:14  <Ammler> !rcoan station_noise_level
20:57:14  <avgmac> Ammler: bang command 'rcoan' not found
20:57:20  <Ammler> !rcon station_noise_level
20:57:21  <PublicServer> Ammler: ERROR: command or variable not found
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20:57:26  <Ammler> !rcon set station_noise_level
20:57:26  <PublicServer> Ammler: Current value for 'station_noise_level' is: 'on' (min: 0, max: 1)
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20:57:29  <dihedral> ^^
20:57:32  <Ammler> hehe
20:57:40  <Ammler> !rcon set station_noise_level 0'
20:57:41  <avigmac> Ammler: bang command 'rcon' not found
20:57:42  <Ammler> !rcon set station_noise_level 0
20:57:42  <avigmac> Ammler: bang command 'rcon' not found
20:57:44  <dihedral> ops
20:57:47  <dihedral> sorry
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20:57:50  <dihedral> ^^
20:57:53  <dihedral> i'll quiet it ^^
20:57:54  <Ammler> that doesn't matter
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20:58:05  <dihedral> make it silent :-P
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20:58:09  <Ammler> or use an other char
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20:59:10  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> concorde or Roku?
20:59:21  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> roku = 6k pax each
20:59:24  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> er...600
21:00:00  <XeryusTC> concorde is not very efficient in pax/time
21:00:08  <dihedral> Ammler, nah, it's exactly what i want ^^ find out how much it wastes for the plugin system :-P
21:00:12  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> roku might start mail service though
21:00:28  <KenjiE20> can you refit pax only?
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21:00:34  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> nope
21:00:36  <dihedral> !blah
21:00:39  <dihedral> :-)
21:00:42  <KenjiE20> bummer
21:00:50  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> concorde holds 100 pax, no mail
21:01:05  <PublicServer> <Levi> use a hell of a lot of concordes? :)
21:01:23  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> they'll be fast at least
21:01:40  <PublicServer> <Levi> might want a 4-lane airport then though
21:01:45  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> not enough space there
21:01:53  <dihedral> KenjiE20, congrats ;-)
21:01:58  <dihedral> i read it on the blog ^^
21:02:00  <XeryusTC> i'd suggest you use the high capacity one
21:02:02  <KenjiE20> cheers dih
21:02:06  <PublicServer> <Levi> place is east from the ICE station?
21:02:12  <XeryusTC> concords are fast, but they dont move alot of passengers over time
21:02:21  <Razaekel> !password
21:02:21  <PublicServer> Razaekel: loused
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21:02:47  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> and you have only the international
21:02:50  <PublicServer> <Levi> you cant build two airports at same station, can you?..
21:03:01  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> you can't
21:03:19  <PublicServer> <Levi> no, we have the intercontinental
21:03:42  <PublicServer> <Levi> yeeeah, that's what i'm talking about
21:04:09  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> use some different planes, so we have a bit eyecandy
21:04:23  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> btw, DFD is quite ugly
21:05:14  <dihedral> Brianetta, wanna see some nifty tcl stuff? :-P
21:05:20  <Mark> 'lo
21:05:27  <Brianetta> I don't know.  Do I?
21:05:34  <PublicServer> <Levi> what group can I join and help expand s-bahn network?..
21:05:49  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> check self
21:05:49  <Mark> !password
21:05:49  <PublicServer> Mark: loused
21:05:50  <dihedral> well, as you are the person who made me interested in tcl :-P
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21:06:18  <dihedral> Brianetta,
21:06:51  <dihedral> &
21:06:56  <dihedral> ^^
21:06:56  <Brianetta> It's very pretty
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21:07:41  <dihedral> lovely plugin system :-P
21:08:36  <PublicServer> <Mark> why concordes?
21:08:41  <PublicServer> <Levi> no mail
21:08:44  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> because they won't cause mail to appear at the terminal
21:08:54  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> the rokus take mail, so will cause mail service to be introduced
21:09:10  <PublicServer> <Mark> not sure why that's a bad thing
21:09:17  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> because we're not doing mail - only pax
21:09:24  <PublicServer> <Mark> concordes are horribly ineffecient
21:09:25  <PublicServer> <Mark> right
21:09:27  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> and I hate having low ratings on a station
21:09:40  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> yer not alone
21:09:53  <PublicServer> <Mark> please do put your name on, i'd hate people thinking im responsible
21:10:08  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> name on what?
21:10:24  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> there you go
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21:11:05  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> Mark: the airports are temporary
21:11:14  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> we have 32k+pax at DFD we need to get rid of
21:12:51  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> it was either air, or maglev :)
21:13:29  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> maglev is 1920 pax per train
21:13:32  <PublicServer> <Levi> well, no matter the concordes, pax at DFD isnt falling :)
21:13:38  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> don't know how fast it accelerates though
21:13:43  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> need more ICE
21:14:02  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> we could make a 64tile maglev train ;-)
21:14:06  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> hehe
21:14:07  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> lol
21:14:08  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> that would be nice
21:14:09  <PublicServer> <Levi> maglev are used for regional in northerh region, you can see the acceleration speed there
21:14:34  <PublicServer> <Levi> although those are short ones
21:14:49  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> looks like 10 tiles or so
21:14:50  <Mark> just use more locs
21:15:02  <Mark> make them all-loco and they'll accelerate pretty much instantly
21:15:14  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> Mark: faster bridges area available
21:15:19  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> fyi
21:15:24  <Mark> ok
21:16:02  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> should I create a long maglev train, single track, just to see?
21:16:11  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> yeah
21:16:11  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> no space for the station
21:16:37  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> I have space
21:16:44  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> where?  DFD?
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21:17:08  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> well, I _will_have
21:17:21  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> west of Drontford?
21:17:46  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> possible too
21:17:56  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> where were you thinking?
21:18:28  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> well, my idea woud need tf
21:18:31  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> mark, upgraded your bridges
21:18:39  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> and replacing a plattform
21:18:59  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> Razaekel: those aren't mark's
21:19:04  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> ok, recounted the accel
21:19:07  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> we play coop :P
21:19:11  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> whoever they are
21:19:14  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> ammler, see sign at DFD
21:19:20  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> anyway, recounted the accel
21:19:23  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> 25 tiles
21:19:44  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> not exactly speedy, but
21:20:11  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> btw, just because we have a TL64 doesn't mean we HAVE to have a platform 64 tiles long
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21:20:17  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> that's true
21:20:20  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> but
21:20:29  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> you get lower ratings if your train is longer than your station
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21:20:32  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> we could make what fits and eat the loading delay
21:20:35  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> or was it slower loading
21:20:50  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> slower loading, iirc
21:20:50  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> slower loading
21:20:53  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> very much slower
21:21:16  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> dunno, if it depense on how much the trains is longer
21:21:20  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> you could do a straight shot across the map, probably
21:21:25  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> since it's single track
21:21:35  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> run long bridges, etc
21:21:45  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> a TL8 train holds 1920 pax.  A TL64 would hold over 15k pax
21:21:52  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> Raz: that's the idea
21:22:03  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> starting at which station?
21:22:06  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> we might overflow on the income if we move 15k pax
21:22:15  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> at one time all the way across map
21:22:22  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> let's do it
21:22:34  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> DFD to DTDT?
21:22:37  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> er
21:22:40  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> DFD to TDT?
21:22:50  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> yeah - long haul
21:22:51  <PublicServer> <Levi> overflow? memory type overflow or what? :)
21:23:02  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> integer overflow
21:23:07  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> yeah - how much money will 15k pax bring in across the entire map
21:23:07  <hylje> more profit than the profit field can hold
21:23:11  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> place your bets now :)
21:23:12  <PublicServer> <Levi> riight :)
21:23:35  <PublicServer> <Levi> that should be calculatable
21:23:45  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> water landing ok?
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21:25:23  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> 57 tiles long
21:25:24  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> close
21:25:34  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> hehe
21:25:49  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> this steel mill is in the way
21:25:51  <PublicServer> <Levi> you need one on the other side too :)
21:25:58  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> good luck with that
21:26:25  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> well
21:26:32  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> long enough?
21:26:41  <Seppel> !password
21:26:41  <PublicServer> Seppel: flakes
21:26:43  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> maybe
21:26:51  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> haha
21:26:58  <PublicServer> <Levi> 64 tiles fit :)
21:27:05  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> got DTD started
21:27:09  <PublicServer> *** Sepp has left the game (connection lost)
21:27:33  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> 71 tile bridge
21:27:38  <Seppel> !password
21:27:38  <PublicServer> Seppel: flakes
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21:28:35  <PublicServer> <Levi> you could also use tunnels at sea level under islands
21:28:42  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> that's true
21:28:46  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> good point
21:28:59  <PublicServer> <Levi> that way it wont interfere with anything
21:30:08  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> lol
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21:31:28  <PublicServer> <Kenji> lol giant super big bridge
21:31:43  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> now for the other side
21:31:46  <PublicServer> <Levi> next one needs to be even better
21:32:10  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> grr...won't let me build bridge
21:32:23  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> too long perhaps?
21:32:38  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> bridges in the way
21:33:02  <PublicServer> <Levi> can't build brigde here :)
21:33:15  <PublicServer> <Levi> seems to bee too long indeed
21:34:19  <PublicServer> <Levi> i love that bit under the ICE bridges :)
21:34:30  <PublicServer> <Levi> stealth win
21:35:30  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> cant build bridge
21:35:37  <PublicServer> <Levi> we have offset of the two endings
21:35:44  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> shouldnt be offset
21:35:52  <PublicServer> <Levi> you've met on the same island
21:35:53  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> well adjust at fruham
21:36:56  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> idiot
21:37:01  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> he
21:37:07  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> oh ok
21:37:20  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> connected
21:37:20  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> just liked to test
21:37:38  <PublicServer> <Levi> we have a 56 tile platform at DFD
21:37:41  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> you don't need demolish before building canals btw.
21:37:44  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> should be 57
21:37:45  <PublicServer> <Levi> can be extended to 57 i think
21:37:51  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> make it 64
21:38:01  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> not enough room
21:38:09  <PublicServer> <Levi> put sbahn in tunnel under it?
21:38:29  <PublicServer> <Levi> and tf to lengthen station
21:38:36  <PublicServer> <Levi> to the north
21:38:39  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> move platform 2 west
21:39:16  <PublicServer> <Levi> needs to go one lower then too, steel mill would still be in the way
21:39:25  <PublicServer> <Levi> i think TF and tunnel sbahn is easier
21:39:25  <dihedral> !players
21:39:27  <PublicServer> dihedral: Client 13 (Orange) is AmmIer, in company 1 (OTTDC)
21:39:27  <PublicServer> dihedral: Client 42 (Orange) is mitooo, in company 1 (OTTDC)
21:39:27  <PublicServer> dihedral: Client 43 (Orange) is Thraxian|Work, in company 1 (OTTDC)
21:39:27  <PublicServer> dihedral: Client 45 (Orange) is Levi, in company 1 (OTTDC)
21:39:27  <PublicServer> dihedral: Client 46 (Orange) is Razaekel, in company 1 (OTTDC)
21:39:29  <PublicServer> dihedral: Client 53 (Orange) is Sepp, in company 1 (OTTDC)
21:39:29  <PublicServer> dihedral: Client 55 (Orange) is Kenji, in company 1 (OTTDC)
21:39:31  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> gonna need to tunnel the sbhan
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21:40:00  <PublicServer> <Levi> one higher
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21:42:02  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> 1TT?
21:42:07  <PublicServer> <Kenji> rofl
21:42:38  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> I think we name the maglev train "The BEAST"
21:42:40  <dihedral> thanks
21:42:44  <dihedral> & good night :-)
21:42:46  <PublicServer> <Levi> that's 63 tiles :)
21:42:47  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> 64!
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21:42:59  <PublicServer> <Levi> now its 64
21:43:04  <PublicServer> *** mitooo has left the game (connection lost)
21:43:33  <andy|p> ! download win32
21:43:33  <PublicServer> andy|p:
21:43:39  <mitooo> !password
21:43:39  <PublicServer> mitooo: hailed
21:43:55  <PublicServer> *** mitooo joined the game
21:44:00  <mitooo> damn failblog.
21:44:14  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> no pax cars?
21:44:17  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> 128
21:44:19  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> just engines?
21:44:24  <De_Ghosty> !password
21:44:24  <PublicServer> De_Ghosty: hailed
21:44:24  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> just engines
21:44:30  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> wait
21:44:33  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> cool
21:44:34  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> not nice?
21:44:37  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> engine holds as much as a pax car anyways
21:44:40  <PublicServer> *** De_Ghost joined the game
21:44:40  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> engines carry 240 pax
21:44:48  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> 240pax/2 cars = 120pax/car
21:44:49  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> and it's 128 long
21:44:51  <PublicServer> <Levi> the thing carries 15360 pax :)
21:45:06  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> didn't I say over 15k?
21:45:13  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> this is going to be a while
21:45:16  <PublicServer> <Levi> wait, true, it'll be 128 long
21:45:17  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> heh
21:45:18  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> 1 year to get the train out of the depot
21:45:26  <PublicServer> <Levi> or not?
21:45:27  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> it SHOULD be 64 tiles long, 128 cars
21:45:38  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> shut down the airport?
21:45:39  <PublicServer> <Levi> let's see :)
21:45:44  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> shut down te airport
21:45:57  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> I'm going to watch this train
21:46:00  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> me too
21:46:05  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> ctrl-click the eye
21:46:07  <PublicServer> <mitooo> mitooo
21:46:18  <PublicServer> <Levi> to bad you cant ctrl-click on zoom out, i want it to fit on screen :)
21:46:21  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> wow that load sfast
21:46:29  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> lol
21:46:30  <PublicServer> <Kenji> raiiiiilgun
21:46:31  <PublicServer> *** De_Ghost has left the game (connection lost)
21:46:32  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> and instant acceleration
21:46:34  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> 502 km/h, not that fast
21:46:39  <PublicServer> <Levi> save game now!
21:46:44  <PublicServer> <Levi> if we get the overflow :)
21:46:44  <Razaekel> !save
21:46:45  <PublicServer> Saving game...
21:46:46  <PublicServer> Game saved
21:46:46  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> how much income?
21:46:53  <PublicServer> <Levi> none.... yet
21:46:54  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> 10 millions
21:46:57  <KenjiE20> !rcon save thebeast.sav
21:46:58  <PublicServer> KenjiE20: Saving map...
21:46:58  <PublicServer> KenjiE20: Map sucessfully saved to thebeast.sav.sav
21:47:07  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> USD or GBP?
21:47:08  <KenjiE20> for future posterity
21:47:13  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> £
21:47:24  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> vote
21:47:27  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> this game needs a 128x8192 map
21:47:28  <PublicServer> *** mitooo has joined company #1
21:47:34  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> with 2 towns, opposite sides
21:47:36  <PublicServer> <Levi> what if we choose a lower value currency? will it overflow then? :)
21:47:47  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> 1.1M horsepower :)
21:48:05  <PublicServer> <Levi> i want that in my car :)
21:48:08  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> heh
21:48:29  <PublicServer> <Levi> 0-100 in negative time, probably
21:48:30  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> this is the way to haul pax
21:48:38  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> :-D
21:48:43  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> too bad it wouldnt work in the USA
21:48:44  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> :-(
21:48:51  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> it'd make airplanes obsolete
21:48:57  <andy|p> !password
21:48:57  <PublicServer> andy|p: hailed
21:49:07  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> if you could get 15,000 people going in the same direction, it'd work great
21:49:12  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> we can't get 2 people to agree :)
21:49:17  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> lol
21:49:17  <PublicServer> *** andyp joined the game
21:49:22  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> just in time, andyp
21:49:27  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> look to the northern island
21:49:30  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> train approaching :)
21:49:35  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> choo choo!
21:49:52  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> more like: bzzzzzzzzzzzzz
21:49:56  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> true
21:49:58  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> again
21:50:03  <PublicServer> <Levi> whooooosh
21:50:03  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> 128x8192 map
21:50:10  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> two towns, opposite ends
21:50:13  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> PAX only
21:50:22  <PublicServer> <Levi> and a fleet of these
21:50:31  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> a fleet or a pair?
21:50:32  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> need to replace that island with a tunnel
21:50:35  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> here we go!!!!
21:50:41  <PublicServer> <Levi> with big 64 tile stations :)
21:50:42  <PublicServer> <mitooo> arriving...
21:50:56  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> 6.3 million
21:50:59  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> he close
21:51:02  <PublicServer> *** mitooo has left the game (connection lost)
21:51:12  <mitooo> s***...
21:51:12  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> 6 mil?  that's it?
21:51:22  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> 6.3 million pounds
21:51:22  <mitooo> !password
21:51:23  <PublicServer> mitooo: hailed
21:51:25  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> if you count the waiting time
21:51:37  <PublicServer> *** mitooo joined the game
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21:51:50  <PublicServer> <Levi> well, income/distance is linear
21:52:00  <PublicServer> <Levi> and per pax amount too
21:52:08  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> 420 pounds per person
21:52:57  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> 410.15, actually
21:52:57  <PublicServer> <Levi> for a non-stop express across the continent... cant figure out whether that's reasonable :)
21:52:59  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> I was doing the math too
21:53:13  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> continent?  known world!
21:53:18  <PublicServer> <Levi> :)
21:53:35  <PublicServer> <Kenji> isn't it like £2000 for that bus from london to sydney?
21:53:46  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> there is no bus from london to sydney
21:53:52  <PublicServer> <Kenji> yes there is
21:53:53  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> how the heck does it drive on water?
21:53:54  <PublicServer> <Levi> bus from london to sydney? wtf?
21:54:09  <PublicServer> <Kenji> eruo tunnel and bridges
21:54:18  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> sydney is in australia
21:54:23  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> good luck getting across coeania
21:54:24  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> are we able to run 2 of them?
21:54:25  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> oceania
21:54:33  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> you could run two of them
21:54:39  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> there just arent enough pax, tho
21:54:42  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> wow, DFD is back up to 32k+ pax
21:54:47  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> another full load about to leave?
21:54:52  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> i take that back
21:54:53  <PublicServer> <mitooo> yeah
21:54:54  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> what was the travel time, anyways?
21:54:57  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> you could run two, easy
21:54:59  <KenjiE20> In fact it's 3950
21:55:11  <PublicServer> *** andyp has left the game (leaving)
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21:55:13  <KenjiE20> 17 countries over 13 weeks
21:55:14  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> 32k is a hard limit
21:55:15  <KenjiE20>
21:55:19  <PublicServer> <Levi> if we add a second track or at least some swapping places like the old AI used to do all over the place...
21:55:31  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> one is enouhg
21:55:37  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> second track!
21:55:38  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> just don't make the beast slow down :)
21:55:45  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> 2nd track?  are you insane?
21:55:48  <KenjiE20> so now you know
21:55:50  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> no
21:55:57  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> i am quite sane
21:56:24  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> not that hard, yarrr!
21:56:56  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> do eet!
21:57:02  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> some trains just use DFD to switch line
21:57:11  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> train 73
21:57:14  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> and 62
21:57:35  <PublicServer> <Levi> you'll get trouble with second track near tinnway
21:57:40  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> meh
21:57:43  <PublicServer> <Levi> under the ICE bridges
21:57:50  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> trouble i can deal with
21:58:05  <PublicServer> <Levi> well, go on then :) *grabs popcorn*
21:58:25  <KenjiE20> okay so there is one flight, one short hop flight is involved from Bali to Darwin, AUS
21:58:32  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> knew it
21:59:02  <PublicServer> <Kenji> that's still a trip across the world by bus
21:59:13  <Mark> i might drive to australia next year
21:59:35  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> this time, we have 10mil
21:59:36  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> 2nd load
21:59:48  <PublicServer> <Levi> couldn't they use ferries and go across Malaysia and Indonesia that way?
22:00:01  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> hmm
22:00:11  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> takes a while to compute that income, doesn't it?
22:00:12  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> seems waiting time hasn't big influence
22:00:32  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> our sbahn at DFD is feeding the beast
22:00:41  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> my :P
22:00:43  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> the waiting pax is NOT going down yet
22:01:16  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> we could feed a 2nd
22:01:34  <PublicServer> <Levi> the second line is being built, after that we can launch as many as we need :)
22:02:29  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> except you don't have a track switcher on the south end yet
22:02:37  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> details details!
22:03:03  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> Ammler: Wrenfingbridge is down to 85%.  what's up?
22:03:06  <PublicServer> *** Kenji has left the game (leaving)
22:03:06  <PublicServer> *** Kenji has left the game (connection lost)
22:04:02  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> 2nd train entering station
22:04:50  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> you know, it is a temporary solution :P
22:05:05  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> temporary shemporary
22:05:08  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> why 6?
22:05:17  <PublicServer> <Levi> temporary is always the most permanent :)
22:05:44  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> shouldn't it be 666?  That's the number of the beast :)
22:06:13  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> you mean 999
22:06:27  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> we could make longer trains
22:06:37  <PublicServer> <Levi> right, so we need track switchers and some signals in between bridges to launch more of those now :)
22:06:38  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> ahh!
22:06:43  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> station too spread out!
22:06:58  <PublicServer> <Levi> whift one east?
22:07:01  <PublicServer> <Levi> *shaft
22:07:03  <PublicServer> <Levi> *shift
22:07:06  <PublicServer> <Levi> damn
22:07:07  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> what is max train length?
22:07:09  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> Raz: I saw that one coming
22:07:46  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> shiet
22:08:39  <PublicServer> <Levi> wow, close :)
22:08:42  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> hehe ya
22:09:09  <PublicServer> <Levi> i'll shift tracks
22:09:42  <PublicServer> <Levi> or so
22:10:32  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> seems like it isn't that bad
22:10:42  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> hmm
22:11:08  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> did someone do that manually?
22:11:11  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> yea
22:11:14  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> ah
22:11:17  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> wasnt gonna wait around for it
22:12:11  <PublicServer> <Levi> utter madness
22:12:18  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> MADNESS!?
22:12:20  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> THIS
22:12:21  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> IS
22:12:30  <PublicServer> <Levi> i wonder what comes now
22:12:31  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> nah, dinnertime
22:12:55  <PublicServer> <Sepp> 231 mio new trains ? xD
22:13:14  <PublicServer> <Levi> it'll take a while for them to pay for themselves :)
22:14:06  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> technically, these trains are over 24,000 km long
22:14:09  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> >.>
22:14:23  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> since one tile is like 400 km on a side
22:14:24  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> 38M GBP per train.  6 trips, and they're paid for
22:14:36  <PublicServer> <Levi> 38M GBP?
22:14:43  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> except that DFD is getting empty now
22:14:52  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> yeah - shift-clone one of them
22:14:58  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> why is there a third train?
22:15:14  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> that is epic crash in the making
22:15:32  <PublicServer> <Levi> there's no lane swithes
22:15:38  <PublicServer> <Levi> lanes are per train dedicated
22:15:47  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> so why are there 3 beasts?
22:16:06  <PublicServer> <Levi> don't ask me, i didnt build any of those :)
22:16:24  <PublicServer> <Levi> i see one switch now
22:16:31  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> yeah - 1 switch at chonningley
22:16:40  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> ok
22:16:45  <PublicServer> <Levi> lol, station switch at another end of continent :)
22:16:47  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> hmm
22:17:29  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> can you imagine if town populations varied based on pax delivered?
22:17:34  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> beast 7 doesn't load fast :-)
22:17:35  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> train isnt loading
22:17:47  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> it's not loading, period
22:18:00  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> it's too long
22:18:13  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> 27k pax
22:18:20  <PublicServer> <Levi> it still is too lonf
22:18:21  <PublicServer> <Levi> long
22:18:28  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> it's TL 114
22:18:35  <PublicServer> <Levi> needs be 64?
22:18:40  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> yea
22:18:45  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> needs to be 128 cars
22:18:51  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> 128 cars, not 228
22:18:59  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> why not just clone an existing beast?
22:19:04  <PublicServer> <Levi> 128 cars, TL 64 displayed in depot
22:19:14  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> mäh
22:19:19  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> that is my train :P
22:19:26  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> it failed
22:19:37  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> it is max length possilbe
22:19:44  <PublicServer> <Levi> lol
22:19:57  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> wtf
22:20:00  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> you suck
22:20:00  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> 61M
22:20:07  <PublicServer> <Levi> train sold
22:20:26  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> :-(
22:20:33  <PublicServer> <Levi> DFD is down on pax :)
22:20:48  <PublicServer> <Levi> ... or is it?
22:21:11  <PublicServer> <Levi> epic crash prevented!!!
22:21:21  <PublicServer> <Levi> ah
22:21:25  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> crash
22:21:28  <PublicServer> <Levi> sry, did
22:21:31  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> 30k pax die
22:21:32  <PublicServer> <Levi> woot
22:21:37  <PublicServer> <Levi> i didnt restart them
22:21:40  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> only 15k died
22:21:46  <PublicServer> <Levi> land change signalling failed, someone messed it up
22:21:56  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> actually, 18k
22:22:07  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> he
22:22:19  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> the other train didn't have reserved path yet
22:22:22  <PublicServer> <Levi> biggest crash ever? :)
22:22:42  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> can we now load my train?
22:22:46  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> NO
22:22:53  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> it's too damn long
22:23:09  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> :-(
22:23:10  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> that gives DFD time to reload :)
22:23:39  <PublicServer> <Levi> indeed
22:23:50  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> how long does it take a crash to clear?
22:23:51  <PublicServer> <Levi> sbahn at DFD is quite good, it seems :)
22:24:28  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> oh ok, it's clearing
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22:24:56  <PublicServer> <Levi> make sure to signal two-way properly before relaunching Beast service :)
22:25:11  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> it was
22:25:14  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> I guess you could say that we slayed the beast
22:25:20  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> dont bother with signals
22:25:23  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> just the other train wasn't in the path
22:25:26  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> just use dedicated lines
22:25:40  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> you are boring :P
22:26:05  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> better boring and alive then exciting and dead
22:26:10  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> and it's time for me to leave
22:26:12  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> dunno
22:26:16  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> have a great evening/morning all!
22:26:31  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> steel mill gone now, btw
22:26:34  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> OMG
22:26:41  <PublicServer> <mitooo> good eve/morning
22:26:46  <PublicServer> <Levi> why dedicated? just split the lines properly into right-hand-drive
22:26:48  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> that late
22:27:03  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> I missed my beer
22:27:07  <PublicServer> <Levi> isnt that hard to do
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22:29:02  <PublicServer> <Levi> anyone working on the beast system? i'll stop the trains and make it two-way, dedicated just isnt right
22:29:31  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> levi
22:29:36  <PublicServer> <Levi> ?
22:29:44  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> it is just temporarly:P
22:29:57  <PublicServer> <Levi> *is sad*
22:30:05  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> we should be able to handle the pax with ICE ;-)
22:30:21  <PublicServer> <Levi> next game i'm doing a bloody TL64 plan, for the hell of it :)
22:30:30  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> :-)
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22:35:08  <PublicServer> <mitooo> going to bed, good night :)
22:35:38  <PublicServer> <Sepp> n8
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22:44:20  <Booth> !password
22:44:20  <PublicServer> Booth: pester
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22:44:58  <Patrick> whoops
22:45:12  <Patrick> I removed signals from a mainline and lost 40 trains
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22:47:03  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> erm can anyone tell me what tudington to drontford Maglec is doing
22:47:08  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> it is not part of the plan
22:47:13  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and has way to much tf
22:47:51  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and it has been built less than a year ago
22:47:57  <Booth> erm can i have a pause
22:47:59  <Booth> please
22:48:07  <Booth> i need to get to the bottom of something
22:48:11  <Ammler> switch to spec
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22:48:25  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ok
22:48:29  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> its only me and you on here
22:48:36  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> so it was niether of use
22:49:04  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but check DFD to  TDT
22:49:13  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> via mega long maglev
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22:49:41  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> erm it was built 1 year ag
22:49:42  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> yeah
22:49:45  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> just about
22:49:46  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> we did that
22:49:50  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> why?
22:50:11  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> because the DFD CS is overcrowded
22:50:24  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> that is just a temp thing
22:50:30  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> and was for fun
22:50:40  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> not like we need money
22:50:45  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and has way to much TF
22:50:54  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> true
22:51:05  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> but we somehow agreed with it
22:51:14  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> we were around 10 players :-)
22:51:18  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> did PM?
22:51:31  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> PM?
22:51:32  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> since it was his plan
22:51:39  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> :-D
22:51:40  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> well
22:51:43  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> pm (planetmaker
22:52:08  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> just take it as accepted ;-)
22:52:26  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ammler if i built thati would be told off
22:52:35  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> or course
22:52:42  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> well
22:52:45  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> if you would build it alone
22:53:01  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> but we discussed how to empty the CS
22:53:06  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> still not the idea of this game
22:53:08  <KenjiE20> wasn't it like 3 members that built that?
22:53:12  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> and agreed to make such a special train
22:53:42  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> and we didn't tf much
22:54:05  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> don't you like it?
22:54:18  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no
22:54:21  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i hate it
22:54:28  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> :-)
22:54:48  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> comeon
22:55:13  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> we did crazier things
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22:57:17  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> I made signs at south station
22:59:13  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> Chris Booth: do you want to continue, else I am off---
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23:10:35  <Ammler> !stats
23:10:35  <PublicServer> Ammler: |
23:10:48  <Ammler> KenjiE20: ^
23:10:59  <KenjiE20> 404's
23:11:00  <Ammler> oh dead
23:11:13  <Ammler> truelight isn't anymore
23:15:57  <KenjiE20> I could probably edit the supybot parser for it, which would exclude everything PS does, and probably not work anyway
23:16:38  <KenjiE20> since is would try to see everything it says normally as a channel action
23:16:42  <KenjiE20> and probably choke
23:20:41  <KenjiE20> aaaand I just noticed we both jumped cross channels
23:20:45  <KenjiE20> lol
23:22:24  <Ammler> good night all
23:22:57  <KenjiE20> nite
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23:37:22  <XeryusTC> truelight is truebrain nowadays
23:41:43  <Sol2> it looks pretty better
23:42:13  <Sol2> oh, today i cannot find thraxian XD he might be out
23:42:16  <De_Ghosty> !wiki
23:42:16  <PublicServer> De_Ghosty:
23:42:22  <Sol2> Hi ghosty
23:42:33  <KenjiE20> o/ Sol2
23:42:40  <Sol2> Hi Kenju
23:42:42  <KenjiE20> how's that network holding up?
23:42:43  <Sol2> jie*
23:42:54  <Sol2> pretty better XD
23:43:05  <Sol2> now still it has a little bit of traffic but i'm still on it
23:43:05  <De_Ghosty> hi
23:43:18  <De_Ghosty> let me come play :o
23:43:57  <Sol2> fix the lanes to maximize the efficience and make trains no need to change their own lanes
23:44:08  <Sol2> no need -> less maybe XD
23:44:26  <Sol2> and
23:45:06  <Sol2> enlonger the entrance of that station and split the every entrance lane to connect to  4 or 5 lanes
23:45:12  <Sol2> it looks pretty good
23:45:20  <KenjiE20> nice
23:45:21  <Sol2> so i'm on other lanes
23:46:18  <Sol2> trains which have to change the lane on X crossing zone make other trains be stopped and delay them so i'm adjusting their lanes XD
23:46:51  <Sol2> switching lane smoothly rather than just cross over by X
23:47:30  <Sol2> make more short bridges (are long about 4 to 6 blocks) and also tunnels
23:48:00  <Sol2> thanks all for your helps XD
23:48:33  <Sol2> when i finally solve that problem, cuz it still remain a few, i'll upload a screenshot XD
23:48:35  <Sol2> hehe
23:48:41  <KenjiE20> cool
23:48:49  <KenjiE20> be good to see your final result
23:48:58  <Sol2> yeap thx
23:49:11  <Sol2> and i've learned one more thing
23:49:54  <Sol2> connect the correct lane or if couldn't then just switch it rather than cross the lanes each other
23:49:57  <Sol2> XD
23:50:15  <Sol2> I've put all of my trust on PBS but now i'm not hehe XD
23:51:38  <KenjiE20> eh, PBS is good, in the right places
23:53:56  <Sol2> yeah but i used it everywhere
23:54:10  <Sol2> even the wrong places what you've pointed out : )
23:54:14  <KenjiE20> heh yea, everywhere isn't great :P
23:54:41  <Booth> PBS works everywhere
23:54:50  <Sol2> lol?
23:54:54  <Booth> well
23:55:04  <Booth> you can replace all block with PBS
23:55:21  <Sol2> replaced to normal signal already :P
23:55:23  <Booth> just the "x's" that cause the problem
23:55:28  <Sol2> hell yeah
23:55:31  <Booth> same as in block
23:55:36  <Sol2> can't agree more
23:56:07  <Booth> but PBS can handle expanded "X'S" better than block
23:56:22  <Booth> but still try to avoide x unless as low traffic point
23:56:40  <Sol2> if expanded X is needed cuz of lack of spaces and etc
23:56:49  <Sol2> that's also what you've pointed out :P
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23:57:15  <Sol2> yeah it was ok when my ML has low traffic though
23:58:01  <Sol2> but traffic went heavier and some trains are forced to stop almost every X blocks so I asked and got an answer hehe
23:58:28  <Sol2> anyway i'm out for a break! thx for your advices again : )

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