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Set network.min_active_clients to 0 (disable autopausing) to enable manual unpausing. 10:00:04 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ has left the game (leaving) 10:00:05 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ has left the game (connection lost) 10:00:14 <SmatZ> !rcon set network.min_active_clients 10:00:14 <PublicServer> SmatZ: Current value for 'network.min_active_clients' is: '2' (min: 0, max: 255) 10:00:24 <SmatZ> ah well 10:00:32 *** ODM has quit IRC 10:28:13 *** themroc has quit IRC 10:31:24 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (connection lost) 10:40:38 *** davis` has joined #openttdcoop 10:44:55 <Ammler> SmatZ: !pause and !unpause 10:45:03 <davis`> !playercount 10:45:03 <PublicServer> davis`: Number of players: 0 10:45:25 <Ammler> (it changes min_active_clients) 10:46:08 <SmatZ> ah 10:46:17 <SmatZ> [11:59:14] <SmatZ> !unpause 10:46:23 <SmatZ> but why it didn't work 10:46:24 <SmatZ> ? 10:50:02 <Ammler> oh 10:50:11 <Ammler> it just set it pack to 2 10:50:15 <Ammler> back* 10:51:58 <Ammler> so in your case, use min_active_clients and set it back with !unpause 10:52:25 *** mixrin has joined #openttdcoop 10:57:55 *** mixrin has quit IRC 10:58:39 <Sol2> anybody can explain why 2-way PBS is placed in opposite direction at the merging area nearby to the "Factory Drop" station in PZG#5 10:58:44 <Sol2> '_'? 11:03:37 <Sol2> and i'm also wondering why they put 2way exit signal and then 2 way combo just in front of merging line in a row? 11:03:44 <Sol2> i cannot understand y 11:07:21 <Booth> erm as they work 11:07:29 <Booth> 2 way psb act as a penalty 11:08:02 <Sol2> oh 11:08:17 <Booth> 2 way exit and combo iirc creates a sdhort prior 11:08:26 <Sol2> oh 11:08:28 <Sol2> short prios 11:08:31 <Sol2> oh 11:08:32 <Sol2> i c 11:08:35 <Sol2> thx 11:08:40 <Booth> does that help? 11:08:42 <Sol2> yeah 11:08:46 <Sol2> really helpful 11:08:55 <Booth> its a nice game isnt it 11:09:06 <Sol2> yeah 11:09:11 <Sol2> i'm learning from it everyday 11:09:11 <Sol2> XD 11:09:28 <Booth> then soon you be ble to build like me 11:09:32 <Sol2> and one question 11:09:39 <Booth> yeah 11:10:10 <Sol2> is it always better to make 1->3 splitters in a row at the entry of station than 1->4 or more splitter ? 11:10:29 <Booth> well depends on train length 11:10:40 <Booth> 1 ->3 works well with short lentghs 11:10:48 <Booth> as they have low loading time 11:11:03 <Booth> i would say max per track is 1 - 7 11:11:13 <Booth> but its always better to have 2 splits 11:11:17 <Booth> and a short waiting area 11:11:37 <Sol2> in PZG5, whole train length is limited to 3block but in my game some trains occupy 7 blocks each 11:12:20 <Ammler> 3 tile train has same loading time than a 64 tile train 11:12:26 <Booth> are you playing your own SP game? 11:12:33 <Sol2> yeap 11:12:49 <Booth> i thought loading time was relative to train length 11:13:07 <planetmaker> nope. 11:13:18 <Booth> dont base verything on PZG 5 11:13:22 <planetmaker> each wagon is un/loaded at the same time with its given speed 11:13:23 <Booth> its a good game 11:13:30 <Booth> but its not perfect 11:13:44 <Sol2> but surely 11:13:47 <Sol2> it's better than me XD 11:13:58 <Booth> ooh yeah 11:14:09 <Sol2> so i'm studying from it 11:14:13 <Sol2> adjusting to my style 11:14:13 <Ammler> Booth: which is perfect? 11:14:18 <Booth> its probably the best game that has ever been published for building technique 11:14:37 <Booth> well ammler if you can get perfect then no one would ever want to play with you 11:14:45 <Sol2> and still i hav lots of places to be fixed 11:14:53 <Ammler> pzg5 is mainly PILE_TRANSPORT with newer features 11:15:07 <Ammler> that was the idea behind it. 11:15:11 <Booth> and twice as many trains 11:15:25 <Booth> 8 track ML 11:15:38 <Booth> if PZ eer has a game on again 11:15:44 <Booth> we should do something like that 11:16:11 <Sol2> oh 11:16:15 <Sol2> it works fine 11:16:29 <Sol2> 2way exit-combo in a row gave the line a short priority 11:16:29 <Booth> what works fine? 11:16:41 <Booth> thats what i said 11:17:01 <Booth> only good for short trainas 11:17:34 <Ammler> Sol2: you do use our bot that many times, never uses @wiki Prios ? 11:17:38 <Ammler> d 11:17:52 <Sol2> i adjusted it in lane switching area w/ adjusting signals also a bit 11:18:02 <Sol2> @wiki Prios 11:18:03 <Cooper> http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Prios 11:18:06 <tneo> hmm I get compilation errors 11:18:11 <Sol2> lol? i've seen it 11:18:32 <Sol2> yeah it works fine 11:19:29 <Sol2> i deleted one signal so if a train is in that lane has lower prios then other train which is heading for going straight don't need to wait at the split area 11:20:09 *** Combuster has quit IRC 11:20:17 *** Combuster has joined #openttdcoop 11:20:17 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Combuster 11:22:04 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 11:22:04 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 11:23:16 <Ammler> tneo: make clean :-) 11:24:04 <Ammler> I use make clean now almost everytime I patching/reverting 11:25:46 <Sol2> http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Image:Jason_Bourne_Transport%2C_2108%EB%85%84_2%EC%9B%94_7%EC%9D%BC.png 11:25:53 <Sol2> how about this entry 11:26:38 <Sol2> just ignore the prio line and uncompleted line at SE 11:26:47 <Ammler> hmm, we should setup a image hoster 11:26:58 <Ammler> Booth: isn't the only one ;-) 11:28:16 <tneo> but I like that station patch... 11:28:35 <Ammler> tneo: you have to wait for it. 11:28:56 <Ammler> they have changed code this week 11:29:05 <Ammler> but the patcher already is aware of 11:29:52 <tneo> ok 11:36:18 <Sol2> trains have been crashed :( 11:39:38 <tneo> grmbl not working, have I do it all manual now Ammler ? 11:39:58 <Ammler> autostart? 11:40:32 <Ammler> tneo: cd ps.openttdcoop.org-3979-svn 11:40:53 <Ammler> patch -Rp0 < ../patches/station_gui.diff 11:41:11 <Ammler> patch -p1 < ../patches/nomod.patch 11:41:25 <Ammler> make clean 11:41:27 <Ammler> make 11:41:59 <Ammler> you did svn update for autostart, I assume. 11:46:06 *** tneo has left #openttdcoop 11:46:12 *** tneo has joined #openttdcoop 11:46:12 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tneo 11:46:15 <tneo> yes I did 11:46:31 *** tneo has left #openttdcoop 11:46:40 *** tneo has joined #openttdcoop 11:46:40 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tneo 11:46:49 <tneo> Mark, how do you cope with shortcuts? 11:48:36 <tneo> hmmm 11:49:28 <tneo> xchat doesn't like dvorak 11:51:05 <Mark> tneo: so far i just use the same ones 11:51:16 <Mark> so different position 11:51:50 <tneo> hmmm 11:51:58 <Mark> i might change the windows defaults to the old positions though 11:52:11 <Mark> and inopenttd theyre not changeable 11:52:41 <tneo> annoying that is ;) 11:52:58 <Mark> yes 11:53:17 <tneo> patch -Rp0 < ../patches/station_gui.diff 11:53:17 <tneo> bash: ../patches/station_gui.diff: No such file or directory 11:53:24 <tneo> Ammler, ^^ 11:53:49 <tneo> how annoying... 11:58:29 *** mixrin has joined #openttdcoop 12:00:10 <tneo> which site did you use for practice Mark ? 12:02:07 *** [com]buster has joined #openttdcoop 12:02:07 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o [com]buster 12:03:09 <Mark> tneo: i did the lessons on the one you sent me twice 12:04:32 <tneo> ah :) 12:05:15 <tneo> I compared my results, using dvorak I had about the same accuracy already, but needed twice as long as with qwerty :) 12:08:17 *** Combuster has quit IRC 12:08:17 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 12:12:44 *** Thraxian|Work has joined #openttdcoop 12:12:44 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Thraxian|Work 12:14:21 *** mixrin has quit IRC 12:32:11 *** StarLite has joined #openttdcoop 12:32:11 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o StarLite 12:40:43 <Ammler> @topic add Screenshots: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/img/ 12:40:44 <Cooper> Ammler: Error: That topic is too long for this server (maximum length: 390; this topic: 418). 12:40:55 <Ammler> @topic remove -1 12:40:56 *** Cooper changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #140 (r16242) | STAGE: Building | www.openttdcoop.org | Use !help for IRC-commands | InfrastructureSharing at #openttdcoop.dev | Client record: 24 | looking for latest save of PSG #135 - please make it available to us, if you played | For Head-To-Head competition join #coopetition" 12:40:58 <Ammler> @topic add Screenshots: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/img/ 12:40:58 *** Cooper changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #140 (r16242) | STAGE: Building | www.openttdcoop.org | Use !help for IRC-commands | InfrastructureSharing at #openttdcoop.dev | Client record: 24 | looking for latest save of PSG #135 - please make it available to us, if you played | For Head-To-Head competition join #coopetition | Screenshots: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/img/" 12:48:28 *** Godde has joined #openttdcoop 12:53:27 *** mixrin has joined #openttdcoop 12:56:46 *** James has joined #openttdcoop 12:57:13 *** AD has quit IRC 12:57:23 *** James is now known as Guest1122 12:57:28 *** AD has joined #openttdcoop 12:59:50 <Guest1122> Hi, I am having a go at the Scenario Quest/Competition and am wondering how long you can play the scenario in game years? I have looked around but can't find it. Sorry if it is really obvious and I just haven't seen it. 13:01:13 *** Guest1122 has quit IRC 13:03:26 *** Combuster has quit IRC 13:03:55 *** Combuster has joined #openttdcoop 13:03:55 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Combuster 13:04:47 *** Wurzel49 has joined #openttdcoop 13:04:51 *** RJames has joined #openttdcoop 13:05:30 <planetmaker> he... Guest1122 was really patient... 13:06:21 <RJames> I was guest 1122 something went wrong and my internet went off! 13:06:28 <planetmaker> aye :) 13:06:43 <planetmaker> well. Officially the osqc is over... for long. 13:06:57 <planetmaker> there was also no fixed time frame, but rather: do it as quickly as possible :) 13:07:13 <planetmaker> the earlier the better I gave a rating on the time score :) 13:07:18 <RJames> Its just that it says many people are still playing thats all. 13:07:43 <planetmaker> Right. Yeah. The initiator kind of abandoned the osqc... :( 13:07:54 <planetmaker> and the page wasn't updated in long either. But don't be put off :) 13:08:14 <planetmaker> I'm actually thinking of a 2nd run of the osqc right now. 13:08:29 <RJames> I hope so. 13:08:35 *** FHS has joined #openttdcoop 13:08:38 <planetmaker> (and publishing the results of myself and a fellow judge) 13:08:43 <FHS> !revision 13:08:43 <PublicServer> FHS: Game version is r16242 13:08:50 <RJames> I want to see how well i've done to! 13:09:17 <planetmaker> :) The best players did even a lot better than me in my best of tries. I'm impressed :) 13:09:29 <planetmaker> Actually, if you're interested, here are the zipped games: 13:09:49 <planetmaker> http://www.openttdcoop.org/files/pm/patches/osqc01_final_games.zip 13:10:05 <planetmaker> of the 8 participants who submitted. 13:10:20 <planetmaker> one game cannot be opened, though. It was made with a patched version of openttd. 13:10:29 <RJames> cool. could I still send mine in so you could give it a rough rating? 13:11:51 <planetmaker> well... in principle yes. But I won't put it into the official ranking. 13:12:18 <planetmaker> but I can give you my personal judgment in comparison and on the same terms as the others, if you send me the savegame. 13:12:28 <RJames> Thats fine. But looking at the first one mine won't be much good ;-( 13:12:42 <planetmaker> ottd-at-planetmaker-dot-de 13:12:47 <planetmaker> what's the 1st one? 13:12:58 <FHS> !password 13:12:58 <PublicServer> FHS: revved 13:13:00 <planetmaker> look at shader's savegame. 13:13:03 <RJames> 'Tim' i think 13:13:17 <PublicServer> *** FHS joined the game 13:13:18 <planetmaker> ah. He's 2nd best 13:13:29 <planetmaker> and he did an awesome job. 13:14:00 <planetmaker> I wasn't as good as him either. 13:15:11 <PublicServer> *** FHS has left the game (leaving) 13:15:11 <PublicServer> *** FHS has left the game (connection lost) 13:15:19 <RJames> i'm nowhere near as far i time as they are though! 13:15:47 <planetmaker> RJames, mind that for a fair comparison, you'd have to refrain from using path signals to make it fair :) 13:15:55 <planetmaker> they weren't available at that time. 13:16:05 <planetmaker> (no pbs signals) 13:16:22 <RJames> i'll have to change them then 13:16:34 *** FHS has quit IRC 13:16:42 <planetmaker> :) they give quite an advantage at some places with this tight space IMO 13:16:47 *** FHS has joined #openttdcoop 13:17:05 <RJames> yep, thats why i like them 13:17:14 <planetmaker> hehe :) 13:17:14 <RJames> make small spaces useful 13:17:19 <planetmaker> yep 13:17:40 * DASPRiD hugs planetmaker 13:17:50 <planetmaker> hey DASPRiD :) 13:18:11 <DASPRiD> hi :) 13:18:16 <DASPRiD> how are you?= 13:18:28 <planetmaker> quite fine. and you? 13:18:31 <RJames> i'll amend it and send the save to you 13:19:42 <Booth> !password 13:19:42 <PublicServer> Booth: revved 13:20:09 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 13:20:30 <planetmaker> no rush, RJames :) 13:20:59 <RJames> won't take too long (hopefully) i haven't used many. 13:21:41 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (leaving) 13:21:41 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (connection lost) 13:22:24 *** themroc has joined #openttdcoop 13:23:56 <planetmaker> well. I can give my comments also with path signals. As it's in-official it doesn't really matter IMO :) 13:25:02 <RJames> there aren't many left now i'll send it as it is 13:25:08 <planetmaker> he :) 13:25:36 <planetmaker> I might find tonight time to look at it. But not sure, so give me some time and ask back, if I forget :P 13:28:03 <planetmaker> http://www.openttdcoop.org/files/pm/osqc_judgement_all.ods <-- that's the filled-out judgment form btw 13:32:33 <tneo> just by 2 13:33:26 <planetmaker> yes. Do you have more, tneo ? 13:33:56 <RJames> what program does that open with? i haven't seen .ods before1 13:33:57 <planetmaker> but as M4rk and me independently agree on the order it's good enough :) 13:34:02 <planetmaker> OpenOffice. 13:34:35 <RJames> ok and i've sent the save. see you around 13:34:40 <planetmaker> cu :) 13:34:52 *** Thraxian|Work has quit IRC 13:34:52 *** RJames has quit IRC 13:34:57 <planetmaker> mail... received. 13:35:06 <tneo> yes I didn't say that ;-) It was agreed that I wouldn't judge because I became a member and participated in the event 13:35:25 <planetmaker> ah :) 13:36:04 <planetmaker> well. we'd need to kick out 3rd best entry, if we'd took out yours ;) 13:36:54 <planetmaker> the more I think about this, these competitions with a scenario are really great. It shows the ingenuity of people nicely and shows the many different approaches around :) 13:37:16 <planetmaker> Only judging many entries - that's a pain. Took my three evenings or so. For just 8 games. 13:39:37 <Mark> took me way less time with the same outcome, os perhaps you put a bit too much time in it 13:39:48 <Mark> though you made that sheet of course 13:39:53 *** davis` has quit IRC 13:39:53 <Mark> guess that took some time 13:40:43 <planetmaker> well, yes. 13:41:09 <planetmaker> But I tend to spend quite a bit of time on getting a judgement fair. 13:41:28 <planetmaker> otherwise I'd dial out injust grades :P 13:44:03 <Mark> i had all games opened and compared them to each other per catagory 13:45:13 <De_Ghost> what competition? 13:45:39 <Mark> osqc 13:46:51 <planetmaker> I think there was a problem with my computer not liking 8 games in parallel :) 13:47:41 <Mark> i doubt my computer liked it, but it managed 13:52:43 *** mixrin has quit IRC 13:53:59 *** mixrin has joined #openttdcoop 14:02:55 *** Patrick has joined #openttdcoop 14:03:33 <DASPRiD> planetmaker, pretty fine as well, except that 3drealms died 14:03:41 <DASPRiD> 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<PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 15:04:06 <KenjiE20> AP is buggered.... 15:04:07 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 15:04:07 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 15:04:09 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 15:04:09 <PublicServer> *** jondisti has left the game (connection lost) 15:04:11 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 15:04:11 <PublicServer> <davis> lol 15:04:14 <davis`> apparantly :x 15:06:04 *** [com]buster has joined #openttdcoop 15:06:04 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o [com]buster 15:06:17 <PublicServer> <davis> the game is pretty inense 15:08:08 <Ammler> hmm 15:08:14 <Ammler> what did cause that? 15:08:25 <Ammler> can you reproduce? 15:08:35 <PublicServer> <davis> dont think so I just joined 15:08:38 <KenjiE20> I presume its the new min_clients check messing with AP 15:08:56 <PublicServer> <davis> the game being unpaused crashed jondisti 15:08:57 <Ammler> KenjiE20: that isn't a ap msg. 15:09:42 <PublicServer> <davis> someone could try joining 15:09:47 <PublicServer> <davis> maybe the error reproduces 15:09:54 <tneo> go fix KenjiE20 :) 15:10:26 <KenjiE20> I don't need fixi...... wait maybe I do 15:11:26 <Ammler> it is the new pause thing, but it would also happen without ap, I assume 15:11:59 *** Combuster has quit IRC 15:11:59 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 15:12:05 <KenjiE20> probably, just now AP is relaying it 15:13:09 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop 15:13:09 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 15:13:42 <PublicServer> <davis> anyhow , what does it take to finish this game? 15:14:17 <KenjiE20> when we a) fill out the cities and/or b) have a new one to play :) 15:14:30 <PublicServer> <davis> ah okay 15:14:45 <PublicServer> *** davis has left the game (leaving) 15:14:45 <PublicServer> *** davis has left the game (connection lost) 15:16:45 *** blinky has quit IRC 15:17:07 *** blinky has joined #openttdcoop 15:18:57 <Ammler> It is finished 15:19:05 <Ammler> at least not playable anymore 15:19:18 *** TinoM has joined #openttdcoop 15:19:29 <Ammler> so I would vote for b) 15:19:35 *** mixrin has quit IRC 15:19:39 <davis`> same here 15:19:54 <davis`> tt-forums offline? 15:20:28 *** Cooper has quit IRC 15:20:35 <PublicServer> *** AmmIer joined the game 15:21:21 *** mixrin has joined #openttdcoop 15:25:07 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 15:26:38 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 15:26:46 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 15:26:46 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 15:26:46 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 15:26:46 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 15:26:46 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 15:26:47 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 15:26:47 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 15:26:49 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 15:26:49 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 15:26:51 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused 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lost) 15:27:59 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 15:28:03 <davis`> yup ... reproduceable 15:29:19 *** stori has joined #openttdcoop 15:30:06 *** stori has quit IRC 15:34:19 *** Wurzel49 has quit IRC 15:42:09 <PublicServer> Server closed down by admin 15:42:10 <PublicServer> *** AmmIer has left the game (connection lost) 15:42:12 <PublicServer> Server has exited 15:42:13 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 15:47:41 <Ammler> could someone join the ps, please 15:47:45 <Ammler> it runs without ap 15:49:06 <kodmaster> !password 15:54:13 <Mark> Ammler: im in 15:54:37 <Ammler> it will be repeated while you joining 15:55:11 <Mark> it did spam ingame 15:57:12 <Ammler> oh, you left 15:57:34 <Mark> yes 15:57:38 <Ammler> I liked to test, if it only happens, when it has to change from pause->unpause 15:57:43 <Mark> should i have stayed? 15:57:46 <Mark> oh ak 15:57:47 <Ammler> or also if it is already unpaused 15:57:50 <Mark> ok 15:58:03 <Mark> it was unpaused 15:58:08 <Ammler> well, I could load a smaller map for tests :-) 15:58:16 <Mark> back in 16:00:56 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 16:00:56 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 16:00:56 <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)' 16:00:56 <PublicServer> @revision r16242 16:00:56 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 16:11:02 <kodmaster> !password 16:11:02 <PublicServer> kodmaster: ramrod 16:11:15 <PublicServer> *** kodmaster joined the game 16:11:20 *** mixrin has quit IRC 16:16:23 <PublicServer> *** kodmaster has left the game (leaving) 16:16:24 <PublicServer> *** kodmaster has left the game (connection lost) 16:17:02 *** blinky has quit IRC 16:17:06 *** mixrin has joined #openttdcoop 16:29:04 *** Combuster has quit IRC 16:29:05 *** [com]buster has joined #openttdcoop 16:29:05 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o [com]buster 16:29:07 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 16:31:51 <davis`> !playercount 16:31:51 <PublicServer> davis`: Number of players: 0 16:34:18 *** ODM has quit IRC 16:42:29 *** Wurzel49 has joined #openttdcoop 16:46:15 <mitooo> !info 16:46:15 <PublicServer> mitooo: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Metropolis' Year Founded: 2050 Money: 46994244864 Loan: 0 Value: 47011924631 (T:1451, R:4, P:0, S:0) unprotected 16:50:56 <Ammler> !rcon save psg140 16:50:57 <PublicServer> Ammler: Saving map... 16:50:58 <PublicServer> Game saved 16:51:14 <Ammler> who is making the archive entry? 16:52:23 <davis`> Booth is , at least he should 16:52:24 <davis`> :P 16:53:57 *** Combuster has quit IRC 16:54:12 *** Combuster has joined #openttdcoop 16:54:12 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Combuster 16:57:29 <Ammler> davis`: agreed, he likes to edit wiki 16:57:36 <davis`> =) 16:57:47 <Ammler> specially uploading images. 16:57:55 <Ammler> so Booth, your turn ;-) 16:58:05 <planetmaker> hoho hou hou aua haha 16:58:24 <planetmaker> :) 17:00:44 <davis`> agreed 17:01:51 *** Zulan has joined #openttdcoop 17:03:42 * davis` shreds Booth with a chainsaw 17:04:22 <planetmaker> davis`: please wipe then the place after you. 17:04:31 <planetmaker> I don't want to go explaining all those blood stains. 17:04:31 <davis`> oh i'am sorry 17:04:44 * davis` cleans the floor .. walls and nicklist. 17:05:07 <planetmaker> :D 17:05:30 <davis`> iam bored enough to scan my pc for Conficker 17:05:30 <davis`> lol 17:05:40 *** mixrin has quit IRC 17:06:26 <planetmaker> easy. visit that page: http://www.h-online.com/security/services/browsercheck/tests/conficker/test.shtml 17:06:26 *** mixrin has joined #openttdcoop 17:06:45 <davis`> lol 17:06:46 <davis`> simple 17:06:51 <planetmaker> yep :) 17:06:57 *** Zantor has joined #openttdcoop 17:07:05 <planetmaker> but it won't detect type A 17:07:29 <davis`> running some tiny application from kaspersky 17:07:54 <planetmaker> he... I don't own a virus scanner :P 17:08:12 <Zantor> somebody get a virus? 17:08:28 *** mixrin has quit IRC 17:08:34 <planetmaker> you want one? I have an old floppy here with some old, harvested viruses :) 17:08:37 <davis`> haha 17:08:47 <davis`> i got too lazy to update my kaspersky with cracked keys 17:08:51 <planetmaker> I hope it's still readable :P 17:08:53 <davis`> since they kept blacklisting mine after a week 17:09:04 <Zantor> lol 17:09:04 <davis`> ive my 10 year olds cousins pc here 17:09:06 *** mixrin has joined #openttdcoop 17:09:07 <planetmaker> he... then it's close to useless. 17:09:07 <davis`> if you want some virus. 17:09:14 <Zantor> my comp is probably so new it's immune to the old viruses 17:09:22 <planetmaker> Zantor: you bet? 17:09:26 <Xaroth> your logic is flawed. 17:09:33 <planetmaker> ^^ 17:09:51 <Zantor> whose logic is flawed? mine? 17:09:54 <Xaroth> yes 17:09:56 <planetmaker> yes 17:09:59 <Xaroth> I don't question pm's logic 17:10:03 <PublicServer> *** kodmaster has left the game (connection lost) 17:10:04 <Xaroth> after all, he's got ops, and i don't :) 17:10:06 <planetmaker> haha :) 17:10:13 <kodmaster> !password 17:10:13 <PublicServer> kodmaster: tutors 17:10:22 <planetmaker> Xaroth: is that logical? 17:10:24 <Zantor> oi vey. I'm not here to stir up trouble now 17:10:31 <PublicServer> *** kodmaster joined the game 17:10:34 *** mixrin has quit IRC 17:10:47 <Xaroth> planetmaker: it is, it means you know your place in the current hierarchy :) 17:10:53 <Ammler> I will never understand why people use cracked software if there is free and better available nowadys. 17:10:54 <planetmaker> :) you don't. at least so far :) 17:11:18 <planetmaker> ^^@zantor 17:11:27 <Zantor> I don't like to stir up trouble. Even in two other communities where I hang out I don't bother with getting myself in trouble or stirring stuff up 17:11:58 <Ammler> Xaroth: did you get the highlight from #openttd at noon? 17:12:13 <Xaroth> Ammler: probably, but i didn't read it, i was at work :) 17:12:18 *** mixrin has joined #openttdcoop 17:12:25 <Ammler> an now, it is gone? 17:12:26 <Zantor> I often do not find it worthwhile to be a troublemaker, so I behave myself :D 17:12:43 <planetmaker> Zantor: wise decision :) 17:12:58 <Zantor> so have no fear, Zantor Zenodex is here! :P 17:13:12 <Zantor> that was a joke (haha fat chance) 17:13:14 <Xaroth> nah 17:13:20 <Xaroth> i have logs in irssi 17:13:21 <Xaroth> i read it 17:13:25 <planetmaker> he... 17:13:33 <Zantor> have any of you played Portal>? 17:13:37 <Zantor> ?* 17:13:42 <Xaroth> yes 17:13:45 <Xaroth> before it came out 17:13:47 * Xaroth beta tested 17:13:57 <Zantor> ok good 17:14:08 <planetmaker> I only play retro games :P 17:14:16 <planetmaker> well. mostly 17:14:20 <Zantor> then may I ask you, planetmaker 17:14:29 <Zantor> have you played Descent or Freespace? they're old games 17:14:33 <Xaroth> Yes @ first. 17:14:41 <Razaekel> both are fun 17:14:42 <planetmaker> Yes, I played a bit descent 17:14:46 <Razaekel> freespace a little less 17:14:48 <planetmaker> not sure about freespace. 17:14:48 <Zantor> I still play those, Freespace 2 expecially 17:14:56 <planetmaker> was it an online thing? 17:14:57 <Zantor> especially* 17:14:58 <Zantor> umm 17:15:07 <Zantor> there was an SP campaign and a multiplayer feature 17:15:09 <planetmaker> or I might mix it up and haven't played it. 17:15:26 <Zantor> http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/freespace_expansion 17:15:31 <Zantor> http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/descent_1_descent_2 17:16:07 <planetmaker> I played the first version of elite :) 17:16:12 <planetmaker> with 4-colour graphics :D 17:16:15 <Zantor> for I originate from the Descent community, and made my way to the Freespace community from the Descent community 17:16:22 <Zantor> I have heard of Elite; don't know anything about it tho 17:16:37 <davis`> Infected files: 0 :> 17:16:39 <Zantor> one of my brothers introduced me into OpenTTD 17:16:41 <planetmaker> nice concept: you're basically starting of as a free lancer 17:16:50 <planetmaker> and you're free to do what you like within the world 17:17:01 <Zantor> remind me of Freelancer 17:17:05 <Aali> freespace 2 is awesome 17:17:10 <Aali> best space shooter ever 17:17:12 <planetmaker> you may just go bounty hunting, you may do errands for authorities, you even may join factions... 17:17:13 <Zantor> FS2 is T3H B0MB! 17:17:30 <Zantor> hmm, Elite has more depth than Freelancer 17:17:49 <Zantor> depth like X2 has, but X2 has convoluted economics and gameplay mechanics 17:17:54 <planetmaker> you may have heard of mount & blade 17:18:00 <Zantor> no I have not 17:18:02 <planetmaker> it's a new game. But quite the same concept 17:18:08 <Xaroth> I played X3 for like a week non-stop 17:18:12 <Xaroth> that game is AWESOME 17:18:18 <Xaroth> but lacks the multiplayer EVE gives me :/ 17:18:18 <Zantor> is it worthwhile, Xaroth? 17:18:26 <Zantor> I've only seen screenshots and have considered getting the game eventually 17:18:28 <Xaroth> it looks purdy 17:18:31 <Zantor> it sure does 17:18:31 <planetmaker> http://www.taleworlds.com/ 17:18:32 *** SHADOW-XIII has joined #openttdcoop 17:18:34 <Aali> X3 is nothing compared to what X-tension was when it first came out :/ 17:18:34 <Zantor> X2 is pretty too 17:18:47 <Xaroth> yes, X3 is even more pretty 17:19:02 <Aali> the X-series haven't evolved at all 17:19:16 <Zantor> they could use work on economics, UI, and gameplay 17:19:20 <Aali> prettier graphics and some new stuff, with every new game 17:19:46 <Zantor> yup 17:19:58 <Zantor> anyone here played or play Half-Life 2? 17:20:18 <Zantor> guess not 17:22:09 <PublicServer> *** kodmaster has left the game (leaving) 17:22:10 <PublicServer> *** kodmaster has left the game (connection lost) 17:22:21 <Xaroth> you do realise 17:22:25 <SHADOW-XIII> does more ppl play with nightly or stable ? 17:22:26 <Xaroth> that Portal is built upon the HL2 engine? 17:23:18 <Zantor> yes I know Portal uses HL2's Source engine and HAVOK physics 17:23:30 <Xaroth> k :P 17:23:33 <Xaroth> and yes, I did 17:25:10 <Zantor> what ports are needed for OpenTTD multiplayer? 17:25:23 <Xaroth> depends on your config 17:25:33 <Xaroth> both TCP and UDP tho 17:25:41 <Xaroth> ... maybe not even TCP O_O 17:26:04 <Zantor> I am behind a custom linux firewall with NAT functions disabled. Any traffic taht must go through must have the port added to the IPTABLES NAT to permit traffic 17:26:19 <Zantor> IPTABLES script 17:26:22 <planetmaker> 3978-3982 17:26:30 <Zantor> just those 4? 17:26:31 <planetmaker> and you're save. but depends what you want :) 17:26:32 <Zantor> what protocol? 17:26:36 <planetmaker> udp, tcp 17:26:40 <Xaroth> 3 lines of paste: 17:26:40 <Xaroth> public const int NETWORK_CONTENT_SERVER_PORT = 3978; 17:26:40 <Zantor> both? okay 17:26:40 <Xaroth> public const int NETWORK_DEFAULT_PORT = 3979; 17:26:41 <Xaroth> public const int NETWORK_DEFAULT_DEBUGLOG_PORT = 3982; 17:26:58 <Xaroth> first is outgoing 17:27:01 <Xaroth> others are incomming 17:27:11 <Zantor> okay 17:27:29 <Zantor> thanks 17:27:43 <Zantor> I will pass that along to my dad and he can get it opened up for me 17:27:49 <planetmaker> actually you only need two ports. 3978 + the other port which you define in the config 17:28:05 <Xaroth> 3978? 17:28:20 <planetmaker> advertizing afaik. 17:28:25 <Xaroth> 3978 is only outgoing right? 17:28:33 <planetmaker> dunno. Don't think so. 17:28:34 <Zantor> so would I be able to set it all to use the same port? that would save some trouble 17:28:57 <planetmaker> you need two for a single openttd. But 3978 will be used by all afaik 17:29:08 <Zantor> okay 17:29:13 <planetmaker> *all installations of openttd 17:31:50 <Zantor> well I g2g I have a lunch appointment. ttyl 17:32:40 <planetmaker> enjoy 17:32:55 <Xaroth> right, time to continue the rebuild, yayness 17:33:45 *** davis- has joined #openttdcoop 17:35:01 *** Polygon has joined #openttdcoop 17:36:33 <SHADOW-XIII> !password 17:36:33 <PublicServer> SHADOW-XIII: fizzle 17:37:35 <PublicServer> *** SHADOW-XIII joined the game 17:38:59 <Xaroth> Ammler: what exactly had that request to do with AutoTTD? 17:39:30 <Xaroth> have OpenTTD send more information about itself so AutoTTD can read that? 17:39:52 <PublicServer> *** SHADOW-XIII has left the game (leaving) 17:39:53 <PublicServer> *** SHADOW-XIII has left the game (connection lost) 17:40:00 <Razaekel> !info 17:40:01 <PublicServer> Razaekel: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Metropolis' Year Founded: 2050 Money: 46994244864 Loan: 0 Value: 47011924631 (T:1451, R:4, P:0, S:0) unprotected 17:41:17 *** davis` has quit IRC 17:44:24 *** SHADOW-XIII has left #openttdcoop 17:46:41 <Razaekel> !password 17:46:41 <PublicServer> Razaekel: mosque 17:47:02 <PublicServer> *** Razaekel joined the game 17:47:37 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 17:47:37 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 17:49:16 *** mixrin has quit IRC 17:54:58 <PublicServer> *** Razaekel has left the game (leaving) 17:54:58 <PublicServer> *** Razaekel has left the game (connection lost) 17:55:59 *** Godde has joined #openttdcoop 17:56:09 <Godde> heya 17:58:24 *** mixrin has joined #openttdcoop 18:12:12 *** mixrin has quit IRC 18:13:43 *** Venxir has quit IRC 18:14:38 <gleeb> !password 18:14:38 <PublicServer> gleeb: onions 18:15:43 <PublicServer> *** Gleeb joined the game 18:18:00 *** [com]buster has joined #openttdcoop 18:18:00 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o [com]buster 18:20:44 *** mixrin has joined #openttdcoop 18:21:14 *** Combuster has quit IRC 18:21:14 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 18:39:57 *** Godde has quit IRC 18:41:06 <Booth> evening all 18:44:21 *** AntB has joined #openttdcoop 18:47:10 *** mixrin has quit IRC 18:51:54 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop 18:51:54 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 18:53:20 <ODM> ellow 18:55:32 *** blinky has joined #openttdcoop 18:59:54 <Sol2> r16251 is up 19:01:10 <planetmaker> hm... an? 19:01:52 <planetmaker> hm... actually... maybe we have reason to update :) 19:01:52 <ODM> pm! can i buy a planet?:D 19:02:04 <planetmaker> ODM: they're only for lease 19:02:19 <ODM> darn 19:02:29 <planetmaker> but we can make a long-term contract, if you wish. 19:02:44 <planetmaker> it includes free access to all of its ressource. All inclusive, you may say 19:03:39 <ODM> woo 19:03:43 <ODM> ill exterminate it! 19:03:44 <planetmaker> though... Earth is still on lease. Since about nearly 6000 years. By someone called "God" or so. Some call him Allah or Jehova, though. He isn't quite clear about that 19:04:18 <planetmaker> he kind of is running an experiment on it I was told. 19:04:22 <ODM> im sure he paid in advance, then left 19:04:23 <Ammler> some call him Ammler 19:04:33 <planetmaker> yeah, he has many names 19:04:47 <planetmaker> well. he paid so far, so it's cool with me. 19:05:58 <ODM> ugh, command line screwed with my head today 19:06:06 <ODM> we used some fancy new database, but our version wasnt perfect:P 19:06:19 <ODM> so somewhere along the lines we proved that false OR false = true 19:06:38 <planetmaker> false xor false = true 19:06:43 <planetmaker> :) 19:06:48 <planetmaker> using wrong or? 19:06:55 <ODM> no, there's only one:p 19:07:33 <ODM> took a while to figure that out though 19:07:48 <ODM> and the guy responsible for keeping the stuff uptodate was fired because of the crisis thingy 19:11:25 <planetmaker> haha :( 19:12:15 *** jonde has quit IRC 19:12:34 <ODM> ill go do physics instead 19:12:34 <Booth> anyone here watch scrubs? 19:12:39 <ODM> ya 19:12:50 <ODM> had the finale been yesterday or? 19:13:05 <Booth> yeah yesterday was the last episode 19:13:09 <Booth> wasnt that great 19:13:14 <ODM> aaw:( 19:13:18 <Booth> tuesdays episode was better 19:13:31 <Booth> they had 3 episodes this weel 19:13:34 <Booth> they had 3 episodes this week 19:13:44 <Booth> new game tonight? 19:13:50 <Booth> ttt game 19:14:27 <Xaroth> transport tycon... turbo? 19:14:41 <Booth> two / three tile train game 19:14:57 <ODM> hm no tors yet, will wait a bit then 19:15:13 <ODM> all shows are ending now:( sux 19:15:17 <ODM> except have i got news for you 19:15:19 <Booth> but a turbo version could be good 19:15:25 <Booth> for me? 19:15:37 <Booth> i get my own show 19:15:46 <ODM> except "Have i got new for you":P 19:15:56 <Booth> :'( 19:16:06 <Booth> i wanted my own show 19:16:20 <ODM> lol 19:16:31 <Booth> black pthyon 19:17:15 *** blinky has quit IRC 19:17:37 *** blinky has joined #openttdcoop 19:20:07 *** Combuster has quit IRC 19:20:08 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<PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 19:26:46 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 19:26:48 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 19:26:48 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 19:26:50 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 19:26:50 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 19:26:52 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 19:26:52 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 19:26:53 <mitooo> it's a bug 19:26:54 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 19:26:54 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 19:26:56 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 19:26:56 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 19:26:58 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 19:26:58 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 19:27:00 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 19:27:00 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 19:27:02 <PublicServer> *** Game 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#openttdcoop 19:45:15 *** ZarenorDarkstalker has quit IRC 19:45:31 *** ZarenorDarkstalker has joined #openttdcoop 19:53:17 <tneo> well atleast you know the server is unpaused :P 19:57:09 <ODM> how kind of the server 20:01:11 <davis-> !info 20:01:11 <PublicServer> davis-: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Metropolis' Year Founded: 2050 Money: 47014732617 Loan: 0 Value: 47032352454 (T:1451, R:4, P:0, S:0) unprotected 20:01:14 <davis-> new gamee :P 20:02:04 <KenjiE20> not with that bug 20:02:13 *** Combuster has quit IRC 20:02:17 *** Combuster has joined #openttdcoop 20:02:17 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Combuster 20:03:00 <davis-> yeah true 20:04:09 <planetmaker> !revision 20:04:09 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Game version is r16242 20:08:44 *** mixrin has joined #openttdcoop 20:11:56 *** Venxir has joined #openttdcoop 20:13:33 <Ammler> did Booth make the archive entry? 20:13:52 <tneo> oh does remind me 20:14:09 <tneo> Whoever archives a game, should fill out players that you know who have joined 20:14:24 <tneo> now we have a lot of entries half done, because of no users added 20:18:49 <davis-> i dont think he did 20:19:21 <hylje> the played-in-this-game should be trivial to script 20:19:38 <hylje> just track playtime by nickname and show the x most playtime players 20:23:54 <tneo> KenjiE20, ^^ 20:28:26 *** TinoM has quit IRC 20:28:52 <Ammler> hylje: with our logs, indeed 20:29:07 <De_Ghost> i would so win :o 20:29:33 <Ammler> just list the 10 which spend most money :-) 20:31:50 <De_Ghost> i would so win too 20:31:51 <De_Ghost> :o 20:33:57 <Ammler> because you idled the whole time? 20:35:06 <Sol2> i built 4->2 merge just followed the "merger" from the site. It merges 3rd and 4th line to 1st and 2nd. But train tends to change line only to 1st one. so i built 2 penalty stations occupy 1 block each, and then finally trains don't tend to go to 1st and now take 2nd too 20:35:36 <Sol2> that says what i built somewhere wrong? 20:36:37 <tneo> win what De_Ghost ? 20:39:12 <tneo> huh 20:39:27 <tneo> !revision 20:39:27 <PublicServer> tneo: Game version is r16242 20:39:41 <tneo> autostart gives me 16251 :-/ 20:42:32 <planetmaker> he... I updated the binary... but didn't restart yet. 20:42:52 <tneo> ? 20:43:01 <planetmaker> I compiled the server 20:43:12 <hylje> Ammler: a autopilot-embedded script (or game command log analyser) could pretty fairly count only active time (x commands per minute) as playtime 20:43:14 <planetmaker> but it's running the old 20:44:42 <Xaroth> Ammler: you didnt' answer my question :P 20:45:19 <Ammler> hylje: we already have that 20:45:27 *** mitooo has quit IRC 20:45:30 <Ammler> and Xaroth, sorry :-) 20:45:42 <Xaroth> :) 20:45:47 <Ammler> the pause script might hidden it. 20:45:55 <Ammler> bug* 20:45:57 *** hypervillain has joined #openttdcoop 20:46:07 <hypervillain> !download win64 20:46:07 <PublicServer> hypervillain: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r16242/openttd-trunk-r16242-windows-win64.zip 20:46:28 <Xaroth> -19:38:57- [Xaroth]: Ammler: what exactly had that request to do with AutoTTD? 20:46:31 <Ammler> Xaroth: some additional filter conditions 20:46:31 <Xaroth> -19:39:29- [Xaroth]: have OpenTTD send more information about itself so AutoTTD can read that? 20:46:40 <Xaroth> filter conditions like? 20:46:41 <Ammler> but you would need first to patch openttd ;-) 20:46:47 <Xaroth> yeh, unlikely 20:46:52 <Ammler> :-) 20:46:58 <Xaroth> as that would mean AutoTTD only supports those installs :/ 20:47:11 <Ammler> well, it would go to trunk 20:47:32 <Ammler> if you make it nicely with devs ;-) 20:47:44 <Xaroth> hah, unlikely 20:48:29 *** hypervillain has quit IRC 20:48:33 <Xaroth> I am thinking of adding response time to the server listing 20:49:41 <hylje> so do we have a magical get-active-players script already or not? 20:49:45 <Xaroth> so people can sort on ping 20:50:12 <Ammler> did you see such logs? 20:50:21 <hylje> did see the logs 20:50:57 <Ammler> then make an analyzer. 20:51:02 <Ammler> for it. 20:51:04 <Ammler> :-) 20:57:11 *** Seppel has joined #openttdcoop 21:08:57 <Xaroth> hm 21:15:15 <Xaroth> this is going to be a foooooking pain i think 21:17:12 <Sol2> if i build the line properly, then i dun hav to build a junk station for penalty. rite? :D 21:17:23 <Xaroth> ofc 21:17:44 <Sol2> ofc?>_<? 21:17:47 <Sol2> ah 21:17:48 <Sol2> of couse 21:17:50 <Sol2> course* 21:17:52 <Sol2> hehe 21:18:31 <Sol2> yeah 21:18:48 <Sol2> i removed some penalty stations and it's going fine :D 21:20:05 <Xaroth> Ammler: Trying to add the 'detail' information for servers ... will be added in 0.1.2 ... if it works that is :P 21:20:17 <Zantor> I have returned. it turned out I had to go to class right after lunch 21:20:40 <Sol2> you remind me of "dragoon" 21:20:46 <Sol2> "I have returned" 21:20:47 <Sol2> hehe XD 21:21:08 *** Venxir has quit IRC 21:21:47 <Zantor> lol 21:21:50 <Zantor> greetings, Sol2 21:21:53 <Sol2> hi XD 21:22:41 <Zantor> how are you this fine day? 21:23:10 <Sol2> i guess....if both lines have similar traffics at the merge, then it's bettter to remove prios 21:23:21 <Sol2> i'm just building stations and railroads XD 21:23:42 <Sol2> it's about 6:30 AM 21:23:44 <Sol2> XD 21:23:46 <Sol2> !time 21:23:46 <PublicServer> Sol2: 23:23 (CEST) 21:23:50 <Zantor> !time 21:23:50 <PublicServer> Zantor: 23:23 (CEST) 21:23:51 <Sol2> 23:23 XD 21:23:53 <Zantor> o 21:24:01 <Sol2> 8th May 21:24:05 <Sol2> Parent's day 21:24:06 <Zantor> I am GMT-6, midwest United States; where are you located, Sol2? 21:24:15 <Sol2> GMT+8 or +9 maybe XD 21:24:21 <Zantor> so, eastern Europe? 21:24:23 <hylje> korea 21:24:25 <Sol2> nope 21:24:26 <Sol2> korea 21:24:26 <Sol2> rite 21:24:27 *** [com]buster has joined #openttdcoop 21:24:27 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o [com]buster 21:24:29 <Zantor> oh wow 21:24:34 <Sol2> hi, hylje 21:24:37 <Zantor> you're the first person I've met on the Internet who's from Korea 21:24:45 <Sol2> lol ur kidding me 21:24:47 <hylje> i take it you haven't played starcraft 21:25:00 <Zantor> I have played starcraft, hylje 21:25:07 <Zantor> I just haven't paid any attention to the Korean market 21:25:15 <Sol2> in starc, there are lots of korean players XD 21:25:19 <Zantor> and no I am not kidding, Sol2 21:25:24 *** Wurzel49 has quit IRC 21:25:26 <Sol2> so 21:25:28 <Sol2> midwest, then 21:25:31 <Sol2> texas? 21:25:37 <Zantor> I know there are lots of Korean players but I was always on the US gatewauys 21:25:42 <Zantor> no, not Texas 21:25:59 <Sol2> hey, i've played Warcraft III in US-EAST XD 21:26:07 <Zantor> I don't play Warcraft 21:26:14 <Zantor> Starcraft has been my thing tho 21:26:14 <Sol2> ranked 66th at 3on3 :p 21:26:33 *** macee has joined #openttdcoop 21:26:38 <Zantor> well you Koreans are nutty about Starcraft like Americans are nutty about baseball and football (neither of which I watch) 21:26:41 <Sol2> in case of starcraft also us-west or east have many korean players 21:26:54 <Zantor> well I didn't notice, sol 21:26:57 <Sol2> wat's nutty ? 21:27:05 <hylje> craz 21:27:05 <hylje> y 21:27:09 <Sol2> mad at 21:27:11 <Sol2> rite? 21:27:14 <Zantor> no 21:27:21 <Zantor> nutty, a synonym for crazy 21:27:23 <Zantor> or fanatic 21:27:26 <Sol2> oh 21:27:28 <Sol2> i c 21:27:45 <Sol2> actually i can't distinguish similar words well. 21:27:55 <Sol2> those sound just same to me 21:27:59 <Sol2> crazy and mad 21:28:01 <Sol2> XD 21:28:22 <Sol2> disadvantage of studying english in korean style 21:28:23 <Sol2> XD 21:28:47 <Zantor> crazy and mad being synonymous in any amount comes from British English 21:28:48 <Sol2> just remember the words in spells as well as meaning in korean. that's all XD 21:29:46 <Sol2> you're saying crazy and mad have same meaning in UK eng? 21:30:21 *** Combuster has quit IRC 21:30:21 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 21:30:53 <Zantor> what I'm saying, sol2, is that occasionally the word 'mad' in UK english means that someone is crazy 21:30:54 <Zantor> for example 21:31:00 <Zantor> "you must be mad!" but not mad as in angry 21:31:29 <Sol2> so difficult 21:31:33 <Sol2> sry XD 21:31:37 <hylje> british english is bloody silly 21:31:48 <Booth> its mad 21:31:49 <Zantor> it's all right. English is a difficult language to learn for those who do not speak it natively 21:31:54 <Zantor> lol 21:32:03 <Booth> or its mental 21:32:54 <Zantor> booth, don't confuse the poor far easterner :P 21:33:00 <Sol2> in truth, i want to learn british but in korea nobody can do it without goint UK directly 21:33:15 <Sol2> going* 21:33:22 <Sol2> so 21:33:25 <Sol2> i gave up 21:33:26 <Sol2> XD 21:33:49 <macee> !download 21:33:49 <PublicServer> macee: !download autostart|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x 21:33:50 <Zantor> work towards a scholarship to an American or British college :D 21:33:58 <macee> !download win32 21:33:58 <PublicServer> macee: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r16242/openttd-trunk-r16242-windows-win32.zip 21:34:14 <Xaroth> people should use autottd rather than the !dl thing tbqfh :P 21:34:40 <Zantor> like this? 21:34:44 <Zantor> !autottd 21:34:48 <Zantor> or not.... 21:35:05 <macee> !password 21:35:05 <PublicServer> macee: guying 21:35:15 <PublicServer> *** macee joined the game 21:35:34 <Sol2> u kno how hard to get a scholarship in Ame or Brit for poor student 21:35:36 <Xaroth> Zantor: no, like the app i made and put on the forum :P 21:35:37 <Sol2> ? T^T 21:35:50 <Zantor> oh 21:35:52 <Booth> still only PSG 140 grrr 21:35:55 <Zantor> ummm 21:36:03 <Zantor> a scholarship, Sol2? I am not sure 21:36:32 <Booth> in england they want foreng students 21:36:39 <Booth> but they charge lots of money 21:36:43 <Zantor> I do know of a way to get a no-interest loan, and that is through the LDS Church's Perpetual Education Fund (not trying to be religious with this statement) 21:36:48 <Booth> scholarships are like gold dust 21:37:00 <Zantor> heh 21:37:19 <Sol2> Booth is rite 21:37:29 <Sol2> and more important thing 21:37:40 <Sol2> we have to earn money to live at there 21:37:49 <Sol2> or we have to be a rich man 21:37:51 <Booth> not in the UK you dont 21:37:52 <Zantor> I don't know about US colleges 21:37:59 <Booth> you can get an education VISA 21:38:41 <Sol2> then where the money we hav to spend comes from? 21:38:57 <Booth> you have to pay university tuition fees 21:39:01 <Sol2> at least, money for fooooood 21:39:05 <Booth> which you can loan from the uk government 21:39:12 <Sol2> loan loan loan 21:39:18 <Booth> they give you £7000 a year 21:39:25 <Sol2> i'm in dept already 21:39:27 <Sol2> for 21:39:28 <Booth> i am a UK student and i have to work 21:39:34 <Sol2> 40 million won 21:39:39 <Booth> dont talk to me about debt 21:39:40 *** mixrin has quit IRC 21:39:46 <Sol2> it's bout 21:39:53 <Zantor> I know that in a US college if you stay on campus you have to be able to cover tuition, books, dormitory, and food 21:39:53 <Sol2> !°è»ê 40000000/1400 21:39:54 <Sol2> ´ä: 28571.428571 21:39:57 <Booth> first year and i have £5000 of debt 21:39:59 <Sol2> 28571 dollars 21:40:04 <Sol2> what's £ 21:40:09 <Sol2> i cannot recognize that 21:40:09 <Zantor> that is a lot of money 21:40:10 <Booth> why 28 dollars 21:40:11 <Sol2> pound? 21:40:12 <hylje> british pound 21:40:15 <Sol2> yeah 21:40:16 <Booth> yeah 21:40:20 <Zantor> 28 thousand USD? 21:40:23 <Booth> its about 7000$ 21:40:25 <Sol2> yeah 21:40:30 <Zantor> that would pay for two degrees at the college I'm attending 21:40:32 <Sol2> i'm in dept 21:40:43 <Zantor> debt is the proper spelling :D 21:40:47 <Sol2> two degrees? 21:40:50 <Zantor> yes 21:40:54 <PublicServer> *** macee has left the game (leaving) 21:40:54 <PublicServer> *** macee has left the game (connection lost) 21:40:56 *** macee has left #openttdcoop 21:40:56 <Sol2> not two semester? 21:40:59 <Zantor> my degree will cost about 10 thousand USD 21:40:59 <Booth> i dont have a dergee yet 21:41:02 <Zantor> which is about 4 semesters 21:41:06 <Sol2> yeah 21:41:11 <Booth> that cheap 21:41:15 <Zantor> to be exact, 5.3 21:41:16 <Zantor> semesters 21:41:17 <Booth> mine is £3500 a year 21:41:28 <Zantor> very cheap; I like local colleges because they are very cost-effective 21:41:29 *** ODM has quit IRC 21:41:45 <Booth> which was 700$ a year 21:41:49 <Booth> which was 7000$ a year 21:41:50 <Booth> sorry 21:41:50 <Sol2> i've passed undergraduate course already and i borrowed money from korea gov already 21:41:52 <Xaroth> oooOOOoooo it works :o 21:41:57 <Xaroth> IT WORKETH :o 21:42:04 <Sol2> that's about 28thounsand dollar or something 21:42:05 <Booth> what worked? 21:42:14 <Xaroth> requesting company info from a server 21:42:19 <Xaroth> it worked first attempt 21:42:25 <Xaroth> both sending/receiving/parsing etc 21:42:38 <Booth> !info 21:42:38 <PublicServer> Booth: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Metropolis' Year Founded: 2050 Money: 47014732617 Loan: 0 Value: 47032352454 (T:1451, R:4, P:0, S:0) unprotected 21:42:43 <Xaroth> ... not like that 21:42:47 <Xaroth> like.. from ANY server. 21:42:49 <Booth> like what? 21:42:51 <Zantor> actually my degree will cost less than 00 in tuition only 21:43:10 <Sol2> i envy u so much 21:43:18 <Sol2> XD 21:43:22 <Zantor> hey, I don't like being in debt either 21:43:22 <Sol2> and 21:43:30 <Zantor> and this whole economic downturn is not making finding a job easy 21:43:45 <Zantor> go on, sol2 21:43:50 <Xaroth> Booth: AutoTTD.. 21:43:52 <Xaroth> like that. 21:43:54 <Sol2> the expenses are cheaper for local students than from abroad 21:43:59 <Booth> if your loans are like uk loan they get now worth less than they gave you 21:44:04 <Booth> as inflation is negative 21:44:05 <Zantor> true 21:44:25 <Sol2> at fist 21:44:40 <Sol2> i loaned for 3.3 millions for each semester 21:44:45 <Sol2> first* 21:44:47 <Sol2> and now 21:45:02 <Sol2> i hav to loan more than 6 millions for each semester 21:45:13 <Booth> 6 million what? 21:45:18 <Sol2> won 21:45:23 <Sol2> !°è»ê 6000000/1400 21:45:23 <Sol2> ´ä: 4285.714286 21:45:27 <Booth> how much is a won worth? 21:45:33 <Sol2> about 4 thousand dollars 21:45:35 <Booth> use UFT 8 client please 21:45:46 <Zantor> sol2, would it be of interest to you if I looked into expenses of a foreign student at my local college? 21:45:47 <Booth> 1 dollar is 4000 won 21:46:04 <Sol2> nope 21:46:06 <Sol2> not at all 21:46:11 <Sol2> 1 dollar is about 1400 won 21:46:12 <Zantor> 1259.55 Won per US Dolalr 21:46:13 <Zantor> okay 21:46:14 <Xaroth> 6 000 000 South Korean won = 3 557.04698 Euros 21:46:15 <Zantor> Dollar* 21:46:25 <Xaroth> 6 000 000 South Korean won = 4770 U.S. dollars 21:46:29 <Xaroth> google ftw 21:46:35 <Booth> thats the same as a uk student pays 21:46:35 <Sol2> lol 21:46:42 <Zantor> what do you use up in Sweden? do you use the Euro? 21:46:51 <Zantor> @Xaroth 21:46:53 <Booth> korna 21:46:56 <Xaroth> sweden!?!?!? 21:46:59 <Xaroth> I'm dutch :/ 21:47:06 <Zantor> doggone whois command isn't accurate 21:47:07 <Xaroth> 21:47:07 <Xaroth> 6 000 000 South Korean won = 37 424.9735 Swedish kronor 21:47:08 <Zantor> sorry 21:47:28 <Sol2> lol 21:47:29 <Sol2> then 21:47:31 <Zantor> the server you're connected to is from Sweden 21:47:31 <Sol2> how about it 21:47:38 <Booth> @whois xaroth 21:47:47 <Sol2> @whois Xaroth 21:47:52 <Xaroth> @whois Xaroth 21:47:52 <Zantor> do a /whois 21:47:53 <Xaroth> :o 21:47:55 <Xaroth> fail 21:47:57 <Sol2> i dun have a command 21:48:00 <Zantor> epic fail! 21:48:01 <Zantor> LOL 21:48:08 <Aali> @whois the man 21:48:14 <Zantor> just type in your text space what is inside the quotes: "/whois Xaroth" 21:48:34 <Sol2> yeah 21:48:35 <Sol2> rite 21:48:43 <Sol2> he connects from a sweden server 21:48:46 <Zantor> it works for me :P 21:48:56 <Sol2> and i'm connecting from a TX server 21:49:23 <Sol2> Zantor, it says that you've connected from netherland server 21:49:29 <Zantor> taht is odd 21:49:33 <Booth> doesnt work if you use a web IRC client 21:49:35 <Sol2> hehe 21:49:40 <Xaroth> hah, they actually have a nl server 21:49:45 <Sol2> i'm using program 21:49:47 <Zantor> if you look under my 'real name' mibbit put in my hostname 21:49:53 <Xaroth> yeh 21:49:58 <Xaroth> mibbit is smart like that 21:50:03 <Booth> look up me it say i am from netherlands 21:50:13 <Zantor> I'd use a different client but firewall settings won't allow it 21:50:21 <Zantor> so, I use mibbit and meebo for my instant messaging 21:50:43 <Sol2> w/e 21:50:52 <Sol2> tired 21:50:54 <Sol2> time to sleep 21:50:56 <Sol2> XD 21:50:56 <Zantor> rather than Trillian like I used before 21:50:57 <Zantor> lol 21:51:00 <Xaroth> Zantor: US, st luis? 21:51:02 <Zantor> have you been up all night? 21:51:07 <Sol2> nope 21:51:07 <Zantor> yes, St. Louis, Missouri 21:51:10 <Sol2> waken at 2 AM 21:51:13 <Xaroth> hah 21:51:13 <Zantor> o 21:51:21 <Sol2> cats waked me up 21:51:24 <Xaroth> <3 dnsstuff 21:51:27 <Zantor> it's in the hostname so its' fair game 21:51:44 <Zantor> but if you can figure out where in the greater St. Louis area, I will give you a cookie (maybe) 21:51:48 <Xaroth> ah, just noticed :P 21:52:11 <Zantor> because I live in one of like 40 or 50 municipalities 21:52:11 <Xaroth> ARIN doesn't have that kind of detailed info, Zantor 21:52:25 <Zantor> you mean exactly where? 21:52:46 <Xaroth> ARIN only has estimates, and that's only when the ISPs actually share that info 21:52:48 <Zantor> well no client would tell you exactly where I am 21:53:04 <Zantor> I live about 30 or 40 miles from downtown St. Louis 21:53:11 <Zantor> it's a drive just to get there 21:53:13 <Xaroth> i mean 21:53:16 <Xaroth> my IP shows up amsterdam 21:53:20 <Xaroth> .. I don't live in amsterdam 21:53:31 <Zantor> if you use an IP locator it probably shows up as St. Louis 21:53:47 <Sol2> lol amsterdam! 21:54:06 <Sol2> i want to visit US and europe 21:54:08 <Xaroth> Sol2: i live 10 miles south from the damn :) 21:54:23 <Zantor> you mean 10 miles south of the dam? 21:54:29 <Sol2> lol 21:54:40 <Sol2> but 21:54:43 <Zantor> more semantics for you eh sol2? :P 21:54:47 <Sol2> i can't get a passport 21:54:56 <Zantor> you can't get a passport? 21:55:00 <Sol2> yeap 21:55:08 <Zantor> odd 21:55:17 <Sol2> i didn't go the army 21:55:19 <Sol2> not yet 21:56:27 *** StarLite has quit IRC 21:56:34 <Sol2> every man in korea have to go army once 21:56:37 <Sol2> about 2 years 21:56:43 <Zantor> to be honest I don't know what immigration and travel laws do and dont' permit in Korea 21:56:51 <Sol2> lol 21:56:53 <Zantor> the US is pretty open 21:57:02 <Zantor> but that means nothing if you can't get a passport in Korea 21:57:10 <Sol2> i'm a kind of draft dodger 21:57:24 <Sol2> even i'm 25 years old but i didn't go army 21:57:35 <Zantor> I don't like a recent DoD directive that was issued in the US government 21:57:44 <Sol2> wat's DoD 21:57:51 <Zantor> Department of Defense 21:57:57 <Sol2> ah 21:57:57 <Zantor> 'Civlian Expeditionary Workforce' basically a civilian military that all young people must participate in 21:58:13 <Zantor> which is not very legal in my understanding 21:58:39 <Sol2> we have had that kind system since WW2 21:58:46 <Mark> doesnt the government decide whats legal and what not then? 21:59:06 <Sol2> my? 21:59:26 <Mark> the US 21:59:33 <Sol2> lol 21:59:36 <Zantor> oi 21:59:43 <Zantor> this is getting into politics which I was hoping not to get into 21:59:49 <Sol2> korea is in wartime still 21:59:52 *** Levi has quit IRC 22:00:12 <Sol2> north and south 22:00:31 <Zantor> Pres. Obama signed an executive order that created this directive and 'workforce' but it's imposed and compliance is mandatory 22:01:01 <Zantor> you can do basic training whenever you like, but I don't want to be required to serve in any such force be it civilian and military 22:01:03 <Zantor> or* 22:01:06 <planetmaker> Sol2: well. they have a truce 22:01:22 <Sol2> yeah 22:01:25 <Sol2> had 22:01:29 <planetmaker> have 22:01:40 <Sol2> but that's not similar to German's one 22:01:53 <Zantor> in my perspective such an order is leaning towards socialism, not democracy or republican government 22:02:23 <planetmaker> Sol2: what's the difference? Except that incidents are far more frequent than they ever were in middle Europe 22:03:00 <Sol2> i feel short of english. sry not for explaining my opinion 22:03:20 <Mark> you mean its not an armed war? 22:03:46 <Mark> no total war, no continuous fighting 22:03:47 <planetmaker> well. Pamunjon is a bit scary 22:03:56 <Sol2> difference of point of view which the official has 22:03:56 <Zantor> ? 22:05:01 <Sol2> well, people living in NK is starving to death but the officials don't tend to do anything for them but do something for ther millitary development still 22:05:23 <planetmaker> well, yeah 22:05:37 <planetmaker> they're doing a bad job for their people 22:05:50 <Zantor> NK has lots of problems, and I wont' get into it because I don't want to get in an argument or flame war :| 22:05:59 <Sol2> and i think, they won't give up that way 22:06:28 <Sol2> NK bears lots of fugitives 22:06:58 <Sol2> they are trying to escape their own country 22:07:12 <Sol2> eastern germany was silimar? 22:07:22 <Sol2> i dun think so 22:07:27 <Zantor> reminds me of when people were trying every which way to escape East Germany 22:07:31 <Booth> any one know where you can buy chimps from? 22:07:40 <Zantor> o_O 22:07:53 <planetmaker> Sol2: of course the were attempts to flee Eastern Germany. 22:07:56 <Sol2> if then 22:08:07 <Sol2> the official didn't give up their way? 22:08:08 <planetmaker> The self-guided machine guns on the border were there for reasons. 22:08:35 <Sol2> they gave up and now german became a unified nation 22:08:36 <planetmaker> and the commanders who gave orders to shoot refugees weren't sentenced for nothing 22:08:47 <Sol2> but in case of NK, the official won't do that 22:09:18 <planetmaker> how do you know? (I doubt it, too, but...) 22:09:52 <Mark> perhaps afterward if they get some proper government 22:10:03 <Sol2> how could it be 22:10:16 <Brot> [Blog entry] OSQC#01 (finally) finished (planetmaker) - http://www.openttdcoop.org/blog/2009/05/07/osqc01-finally-finished/ 22:10:21 <Zantor> odd as it may sound, a miracle 22:10:22 *** Levi has joined #openttdcoop 22:10:43 <Sol2> the general of NK is hereditary 22:10:58 <planetmaker> yeah. It's a classical dictatorship 22:11:08 <Ammler> !rcon quit 22:11:09 <PublicServer> Server has exited 22:11:10 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 22:11:31 <Sol2> hehe w/e 22:11:56 <Ammler> @state waiting for scenario 22:12:01 <Zantor> http://wiki.openttd.org/images/2/2a/Lgroundabout.png I can't even see how tracks come into the junction, because the picture is so close up 22:12:26 <Sol2> the truth is that i didn't go army so i hardly can get the passport, and even if i could a passport then it's term is shorter than a month 22:12:28 <Sol2> : ) 22:12:33 <Booth> any one know where you can buy chimps from? 22:12:49 <Sol2> i'm sry i even don't know wats chimps 22:12:55 <Zantor> chimpanzee 22:13:00 <Zantor> a primate animal 22:13:04 <Sol2> hmm 22:13:06 <Sol2> no idea 22:13:08 <Ammler> Zantor: that is a junction for old acceleration 22:13:11 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 22:13:11 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 22:13:11 <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)' 22:13:11 <PublicServer> @revision r16251 22:13:11 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 22:13:41 *** planetmaker changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #140 (r16251) | STAGE: Building | www.openttdcoop.org | Use !help for IRC-commands | InfrastructureSharing at #openttdcoop.dev | Client record: 24 | looking for latest save of PSG #135 - please make it available to us, if you played | For Head-To-Head competition join #coopetition | Screenshots: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/img/" 22:13:45 <Zantor> I'm playing on hoax's tycoon heaven 22:13:57 <Booth> who are 22:13:59 <Booth> how? 22:14:10 <Booth> and who are/is tycoon heaven? 22:14:12 <Zantor> oi 22:14:21 <Zantor> hoax in #openttd 22:14:29 <Zantor> made a scenario map he calls 'tycoon heaven' 22:14:47 <Zantor> I wish I could remember where he linked me to download it 22:15:10 <Booth> if you have to original 22:15:11 <Zantor> http://mibbit.com/up/7Br2z8XJ.png it looks like this but w/o the tracks, stations, and airporst 22:15:16 <Booth> and his permission 22:15:23 <Zantor> I have his permission to use it 22:15:29 <Booth> you can uload it yourself 22:15:34 <Zantor> he wanted me to try it out 22:15:43 <Booth> youy need distro rights 22:15:52 <Zantor> I'm not distributing it 22:16:29 <Zantor> Xaroth, you remember when hoax allowed his map to be downloaded and tested? 22:16:52 <Xaroth> nop 22:17:01 <Zantor> doggone it 22:17:13 <Zantor> I had no idea you guys are so picky about maps 22:17:36 <Zantor> last night, about 11 or 12 PM GMT-6 22:17:40 <Zantor> ask him, he will likely remember 22:18:27 <PublicServer> Server closed down by admin 22:18:27 <PublicServer> Saving game... 22:18:29 <PublicServer> Game saved 22:18:31 <PublicServer> Server has exited 22:18:32 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 22:18:50 <Booth> she' gone, she's gone oow aaaa 22:19:02 <planetmaker> you wanna join? 22:19:11 <Booth> not the old game 22:19:40 <Zantor> who are you inviting, planetmaker? 22:19:41 <planetmaker> I have no new and I'm tired 22:19:51 *** Kolo has joined #openttdcoop 22:19:57 <Booth> i want new game 22:20:00 <planetmaker> Zantor: I was asking whether the server needs to be re-started :) 22:20:04 <Zantor> oh 22:20:08 *** Progman has quit IRC 22:20:25 <Booth> PM i sure everyone can like 22:20:30 <Booth> live a few hours 22:20:34 <Booth> with coop being online 22:20:42 <Booth> otherwise if they cant they have issues 22:20:50 <planetmaker> :D 22:21:12 <Booth> i hope that doesnt get referenced to much 22:21:29 <planetmaker> well. it's true ;) 22:21:31 <Booth> dont the servers go off at christmas? 22:21:42 <planetmaker> no 22:21:49 <planetmaker> I actually played Christmas :) 22:21:58 <Booth> now that is sad 22:22:02 <Booth> c'mon 22:22:17 <planetmaker> well.... depends :) 22:22:21 <Booth> i think it should be turned all all majopr religous holiday 22:22:24 <Booth> honica christmas 22:22:27 <Booth> etc etc 22:22:35 <planetmaker> why? 22:22:38 <Ammler> Booth: did you make the archive entry? 22:22:51 <planetmaker> we're an international community? Why not turn off during ramadan then? 22:22:53 <Booth> nope 22:23:01 <Booth> i didnt ask for server to be closed 22:23:01 <Ammler> the server will be stopped until you have ;-) 22:23:05 <Booth> or close it 22:23:10 <Mark> we'd have no days left 22:23:21 <Booth> i said 22:23:30 <Booth> i am not adding anything to the wiki 22:23:31 <Mark> closing for any holiday is stupid imho 22:23:38 <Booth> so it will be off along time 22:23:54 <planetmaker> We offer a service. People may play. If the server is running, we don't need to do much. If it fails e.g. over Christmas -tough luck, if no one of us is around 22:23:59 <Ammler> Booth: just for you: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/img/ 22:24:39 <Booth> yes 22:24:54 *** Kolo has quit IRC 22:26:23 *** Combuster has quit IRC 22:26:24 <Booth> how about this i will make on tomoz 22:26:28 *** Combuster has joined #openttdcoop 22:26:28 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Combuster 22:29:02 <Ammler> Booth: I like you. 22:29:07 <Ammler> and good night. 22:29:25 <Booth> like me as in i am weird 22:29:27 <planetmaker> good night all, too 22:29:37 <Booth> good nigh ammler 22:29:38 <Xaroth> o_O 22:29:42 <planetmaker> sleep well and have nice dreams :) 22:29:43 <Xaroth> Ammler: you said that last night as well :P 22:29:59 <Ammler> I won't come back in 20 mins. 22:30:03 <Xaroth> :P 22:30:12 <Ammler> I don't visit tt-forums anymore. 22:30:25 <Booth> ha ha 22:30:26 <Xaroth> not even to praise autottd? 22:30:27 <Booth> are you joking? 22:30:37 <Ammler> well, maybe tomorrow :P 22:30:44 <Xaroth> har har 22:30:48 <Xaroth> still working on it tho 22:30:50 <Xaroth> will take a while 22:30:54 <Ammler> autottd needs filter for settings ;-) 22:31:06 <Xaroth> yes, that's quite impossible :P 22:31:12 <Ammler> nothing is. 22:31:17 <Xaroth> it requires codechange, which then makes it for certain versions ONLY 22:31:25 <Booth> it might be hard 22:31:27 <Xaroth> not really 'generic' :P 22:31:28 <Ammler> yep 22:31:36 <Booth> but impossible doesnt exist in my dictonary 22:31:45 <Ammler> but nightlies are fine and it will go to 0.8 then. 22:31:52 <Xaroth> true that 22:32:02 <Xaroth> but i don't like designing the entire thing :/ 22:32:03 <Ammler> so next year, your app would rock ;-) 22:32:34 <Ammler> Xaroth: I guess, there isn't much to design 22:32:46 <Ammler> mostly it is done, I assume, like company infos and such 22:37:45 <Xaroth> Amm; at least i'll have detailed company info with the next one :P 22:38:09 <Ammler> why don't you hightlight me ;-) 22:38:23 <Xaroth> because yer supposed to be heading to bed? :P 22:38:28 <Ammler> hehe 22:38:31 <Xaroth> i mean.. it's already 10 minutes: P 22:38:38 *** flipped has joined #openttdcoop 22:39:19 <Xaroth> only problem will now be 22:39:30 <Xaroth> to migrate the browser to the new library... 22:39:49 <Sol2> i want to build signals on the bridges or tunnels 22:40:18 <Xaroth> well, first the update manager, but that's not much of an issue i think 22:47:12 *** AntB has quit IRC 22:49:03 <Zantor> I am having the darndest time tryign to build this junction 22:49:12 <Zantor> scaling it up is easier said than done 22:51:19 *** Godde has joined #openttdcoop 22:54:22 <Sol2> okay i got the point 22:54:51 <kodmaster> !download win64 22:54:53 <Sol2> in a middle traffic station, PBS is ok but when traffic is going heavier then it's better to use per-signals 22:56:51 <kodmaster> !info 22:56:53 <Zantor> sol2, I want to build a Star junction 22:57:01 <kodmaster> is the server down? 22:57:41 <Zantor> here I'll send a screenshot 22:57:55 *** AntB has joined #openttdcoop 22:58:23 <Zantor> http://mibbit.com/up/Rq6dCRBS.png the drawing of the Star junction in the wiki is not made for something this size 22:58:28 <Xaroth> I wonder if Amm actually went to bed :P 22:58:37 <Zantor> lol 22:59:21 <Xaroth> what are those pbs crosses on the lines? they don't work :P 22:59:31 <Xaroth> unless you use 90 degree turns 22:59:35 <Xaroth> which is cheating, really :/ 22:59:36 <Zantor> oh 22:59:43 <Zantor> I was playing with PBS signals and put them in 22:59:51 <Zantor> I only have one train on that set of lines 22:59:56 <Zantor> so ti doesn't matter atm 23:00:04 <Zantor> look at the junctin 23:00:07 <Razaekel> trying to make a 4-way? 23:00:11 <Zantor> yes 23:00:16 <Razaekel> dont use star 23:00:16 <Zantor> I was going to make a star 23:00:21 <Zantor> what should I use then? 23:00:30 <Razaekel> one sec 23:00:57 <Razaekel> how many lanes? 23:01:23 <Zantor> one in, one out, per sisde 23:01:27 <Zantor> side* 23:01:55 <Sol2> ur tunnel is too long 23:02:03 <Zantor> that tunnel is not permanent 23:02:09 <Sol2> yeah 23:02:18 <Zantor> I have it there so I can have a train doing a run for me so I still have income while I work on this 23:02:31 <Sol2> how about to see my junction 23:02:32 <Zantor> when the junction is complete the tunnel goes bye bye 23:02:33 <Razaekel> my personal preference is the dual branch-merge 23:02:40 <Sol2> it's not completed yet but may aid you 23:03:01 <Zantor> razaekel, I don't need to move that much yet 23:03:16 <Zantor> you could say I'm a novice at this 23:03:20 <Zantor> talking with you guys is helping me learn more 23:03:22 <Razaekel> eh 23:03:27 <Razaekel> i guess the star would work, then 23:03:41 <Zantor> would the dual branch merge fit in a 24x24 area? 23:03:53 <Razaekel> uh 23:04:12 <Sol2> http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Image:Jason_Bourne_Transport%2C_2124%EB%85%84_1%EC%9B%94_2%EC%9D%BC.png 23:04:22 <Razaekel> no 23:04:24 <Sol2> oh that's too complex 23:04:27 <Razaekel> looks like 30x30 23:04:41 <Zantor> from end to end of each set of rails it's 24 squares 23:04:58 <Zantor> I'm making it large because I will be having trains that are 10+ cars long 23:05:05 <KenjiE20> Sol2, http://mz.openttdcoop.org/img/ for images now 23:05:20 <Sol2> oic 23:06:03 <Sol2> Zantor, my junction is expanded star junction even as i said above that's not completed yet 23:06:04 <Razaekel> not too bad sol2 23:07:09 <Sol2> thx Razaekel! 23:07:52 <Razaekel> of course, i do prefer MOAR TRACKS 23:07:55 <Razaekel> ie 23:08:03 <Razaekel> at least 8 per side is good 23:08:06 <Razaekel> :-) 23:08:20 <Sol2> i hav to adjust more stations to be able to contain more trains w/o traffic jam 23:08:23 <Zantor> Razaekel of course, i do prefer MOAR TRACKS 23:08:25 <Zantor> lol 23:08:27 <Sol2> wat's moar tracks? 23:08:31 <Zantor> it's a pun 23:08:35 <Zantor> moar is a phonetic spelling of more 23:08:42 <Zantor> so he's saying he prefers more tracks 23:08:53 <Razaekel> bigger is better 23:08:58 <Sol2> ah, 23:08:59 <Sol2> ic 23:09:03 <Zantor> in yo' humble opinion, mate 23:09:09 <KenjiE20> 4chan sucks 23:09:12 <Razaekel> aye, very humble 23:09:19 <KenjiE20> stop succuming to their ways 23:09:25 <KenjiE20> :) 23:09:33 <Razaekel> we are anonymous 23:09:35 <Razaekel> we are legion 23:09:44 <Razaekel> we will not forgive 23:09:45 <KenjiE20> we are the retards of the internet 23:09:47 <Razaekel> we will not forget 23:09:52 <Zantor> so you think, Razaekel 23:10:09 <KenjiE20> iiChan > 4chan :P 23:10:35 <Razaekel> i WAS working on a 8 track SML network on a 512x2048 map 23:10:40 <Zantor> I could make it 28x28 23:10:41 <Zantor> lol 23:10:42 *** Polygon has quit IRC 23:10:44 <Razaekel> or was it 256x2048 23:10:47 <Razaekel> i dont remember 23:10:55 <Razaekel> either way 23:11:02 <Razaekel> i had it halfway done 23:11:10 <Razaekel> and then being a retard, i went and saved over it 23:11:22 <KenjiE20> iirc it'd have to be 256x2048 to get on PS 23:11:31 <Zantor> retard of retards, congratulations 23:11:33 <Razaekel> it was solo 23:11:39 <KenjiE20> ah fair enough then 23:11:47 <Razaekel> and PS can do 2048x2048 23:11:49 <Razaekel> apparently 23:11:54 <KenjiE20> 1024x1024 23:12:11 <KenjiE20> 20 would kill everything before we got halfway done 23:12:16 <Razaekel> the issue with the big maps isnt the server, it's the clients 23:12:19 <Xaroth> Zantor: just made a 4-way 23:12:21 <Xaroth> lemme upload it 23:13:55 <Xaroth> http://users.tt-forums.net/autottd/zantor.png 23:14:00 <Zantor> pic? 23:14:02 <Zantor> k 23:14:10 <Xaroth> not the prettiest 23:14:15 <Zantor> ver nice 23:14:16 <Zantor> very nice* 23:14:23 <Xaroth> the actual junction is a 30x30 square 23:14:36 <Xaroth> 30x29 would look nicer, as you can see 23:14:51 <KenjiE20> wiggle turns :/ 23:14:57 <Xaroth> yeh, hence 30x29 :P 23:15:24 <Zantor> junctions I can have the hardest time with sometimes 23:15:30 <Razaekel> you damn brit 23:15:36 <Razaekel> drive on left? 23:15:42 <Razaekel> it's drive on RIGHT! 23:15:42 <Xaroth> me? 23:15:53 <Razaekel> yea 23:15:58 <Xaroth> i'm dutch 23:16:01 <Zantor> lol 23:16:03 <Razaekel> close enough 23:16:06 <Zantor> LOL 23:16:10 <Xaroth> and i just picked left because it looked better 23:16:23 * Xaroth off to bed now 23:16:47 <Xaroth> that junction took me 15 minutes :/ 23:16:47 <Zantor> cya l8r 23:16:53 <KenjiE20> at least when we all run out of gas, and are using horses again, us Brits will be able to see men with weapons coming the other way 23:17:01 <Zantor> the very first time I built a proper junction, it took me half an hour 23:17:23 <Xaroth> Zantor: yeh, but i build junctions all the time 23:18:14 <Zantor> http://mibbit.com/up/x9PPVcmM.png here's what I have so far 23:18:21 <Zantor> anything look odd? 23:18:34 <Xaroth> use more tunnels 23:18:40 <Zantor> tunnels instead of bridges? 23:18:42 <Xaroth> tunnels don't have speed limits, bridges do 23:18:43 <Zantor> well duh 23:18:47 <Zantor> ok 23:18:56 <Zantor> well I'm following the pic on the wiki to make sure I Get it right 23:19:05 <Razaekel> tunnels take up more space than bridges 23:19:08 <Xaroth> oh and reduce the amount of turns as much as possible 23:19:17 <Razaekel> that's important 23:19:22 <Sol2> Zantor, reduce bridges and tunnels as many as possible 23:19:27 <Xaroth> Razaekel: not -that- much more space 23:19:32 <Razaekel> 2 more tiles! 23:19:59 <Razaekel> if yer trying to squeeze a junction into a small space, it can be important 23:20:06 <Xaroth> true 23:20:12 <Xaroth> but junctions in small places are a hell anyhow 23:20:15 <Xaroth> anyways, i was heading to bed 23:20:16 <Xaroth> nn 23:20:25 <Sol2> gute nacht 23:20:31 <Xaroth> that's german :P 23:20:48 <Sol2> w/e 23:20:52 <Sol2> :p 23:21:04 <Zantor> cya xaroth 23:21:19 <Sol2> Zantor, you're planning to expand that junction after the time? 23:21:34 <Sol2> i mean 23:21:43 <Sol2> put more lines into junction 23:22:19 <Sol2> or you can just learn from what Xaroth uploaded 23:22:24 <Sol2> that's the most simple one i think 23:22:44 <Zantor> working on it 23:22:56 <Sol2> yeap 23:23:03 <Sol2> Xaroth made a good example 23:23:10 <Sol2> so i hav nothing to do more :) 23:24:40 <Sol2> and you can also adjust where the tunnel is placed a bit to make a straight side roads around NW area of junction of Xaroth's one 23:26:47 <Zantor> http://mibbit.com/up/QENmOAX2.png 23:27:09 <Zantor> that is done following the illustration in the wiki 23:28:36 *** Combuster has quit IRC 23:28:36 *** [com]buster has joined #openttdcoop 23:28:37 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o [com]buster 23:28:39 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 23:29:22 *** Godde has quit IRC 23:32:12 <Sol2> yeah 23:32:15 <Sol2> that looks nice 23:32:27 *** [1]Booth has joined #openttdcoop 23:32:36 <Sol2> hi booth 23:32:42 <Sol2> how long will the train be? 23:32:55 <[1]Booth> hello 23:33:00 <Zantor> to whom are you speaking? 23:33:03 <Sol2> that's nice but i want to adjust one more thing XD 23:33:14 <Sol2> to you Zantor XD 23:33:18 <[1]Booth> erm who save PSG 139? 23:33:28 <Zantor> 10+ cars 23:33:30 <[1]Booth> and why is there no archive for it? 23:33:50 <Zantor> I have yet to find out how long a train a 7-square stattion will take 23:33:50 <Razaekel> zantor 23:33:55 <Razaekel> quick lesson 23:33:59 <Zantor> yes? 23:34:05 <Zantor> shoot 23:34:08 <Razaekel> in OTTD, basic model, there's 2 cars per tile 23:34:13 <Sol2> when the train have to turn left, then it have to slow its speed by not enough length between 90 degree turn 23:34:32 <Sol2> by->due to 23:34:32 <Razaekel> and we usually say the length of trains in terms of the number of tiles it covers 23:34:41 *** [1]Booth is now known as Booth_ 23:34:44 <Razaekel> so, in your case, it would be a 5TL train 23:34:52 <Razaekel> or 5TL+ 23:35:01 <Zantor> ok 23:35:11 <Zantor> well I don't intend to go beyond a train that's 7 tiles long 23:35:16 <Zantor> so about 14 cars engine included? 23:35:23 <Razaekel> that would be correct 23:35:24 <Sol2> put the tunnel one tile left more 23:35:34 <Zantor> which tunnel? 23:35:39 <Sol2> erm 23:35:46 <Sol2> that's not possible 23:35:48 <Sol2> nvm 23:35:49 <Razaekel> engines are usually half a tile 23:35:55 <De_Ghost> !date 23:35:57 <Razaekel> so it'll be 1 engine, 13 cars 23:36:05 <Zantor> or 2 engines, 12 cars 23:36:10 <Razaekel> unless yer using a 2 piece engine, which takes up one tile by itself 23:36:11 <Razaekel> yea 23:36:38 <Razaekel> when considering curves 23:36:47 <Razaekel> train length doesnt really matter 23:36:49 <Razaekel> speed does 23:36:57 <Zantor> ok 23:37:10 <De_Ghost> or 23:37:14 <De_Ghost> lots of raw powa 23:37:16 <De_Ghost> :D 23:37:19 <Razaekel> nope 23:37:24 <Razaekel> it's still speed limited 23:38:32 <Razaekel> there's a rough table for the speed and curve relations on the openttd wiki 23:38:43 <Razaekel> but the limits appear to also depend on the track type 23:38:54 <Razaekel> railroad vs monorail vs maglev 23:40:37 <Zantor> gotcha 23:48:19 <Booth_> any one know who was meant to archive PSG 139? 23:49:38 <Booth_> ok that is something for me to clean up tomorrow then 23:51:06 <Booth_> !info 23:53:28 *** Booth_ has quit IRC 23:55:12 *** themroc has quit IRC