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00:06:17 *** theholyduck has quit IRC 00:13:30 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> lower tf :) 00:14:26 <gleeb> !dl linux 00:14:26 <PublicServer> gleeb: unknown option "linux" 00:14:29 <gleeb> !dl lin32 00:14:29 <PublicServer> gleeb: unknown option "lin32" 00:14:34 <gleeb> !dl 00:14:35 <PublicServer> gleeb: !dl autostart|autottd|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x 00:14:38 <gleeb> !dl lin 00:14:38 <PublicServer> gleeb: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r16621/openttd-trunk-r16621-linux-generic-i686.tar.bz2 00:14:39 <gleeb> ffs 00:14:47 <PublicServer> <Nichevo> yes? 00:16:52 <gleeb> Nothing :) 00:17:03 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> taco my tacos nothing :P 00:17:19 <gleeb> tacos? 00:17:29 <PublicServer> <Nichevo> yes please 00:17:40 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> you got me runnin' goin' out of my mind 00:18:31 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> only ELO is allowed to use synthesizers 00:18:47 <gleeb> !password 00:18:47 <PublicServer> gleeb: mealed 00:19:03 <PublicServer> *** Gleeb joined the game 00:19:12 <PublicServer> <Gleeb> shazaom 00:19:28 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> is that like rubber floam? 00:20:49 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> nvm 00:21:05 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> yeh, !plan 00:21:06 <PublicServer> <Nichevo> A diversion! 00:22:01 <PublicServer> <Gleeb> I'm always amazed at how many trains work on these networks. 00:22:07 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> 1024 00:22:15 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> 1000 - 1024 00:24:14 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> when signals on bridges & tunnels comes out, i'm going to do all straight-aways like that 00:25:39 <PublicServer> *** Gleeb has left the game (leaving) 00:35:33 *** Razaekel has joined #openttdcoop 00:36:09 *** Razaekel is now known as Guest735 00:36:44 *** Guest735 is now known as Razaekel 00:39:29 <PublicServer> <Nichevo> I fail 00:39:32 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> RRAAHAHAHHAHhrHHRHHGRHRGHhrHGHRHGhHGHAHghrhHGHAHga 00:39:35 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> hi 00:39:45 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> it only takes 30 days to clear 00:39:56 <PublicServer> <Nichevo> gives me time to finish :P 00:40:03 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> there you go 00:40:11 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> you only have 24 days left 00:41:59 <gleeb> Do I hear the groans of someone crashing trains? 00:42:17 <PublicServer> <Nichevo> nothing to see here... *whistle* 00:42:28 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> it backed up all the way to print works drop 00:42:38 <PublicServer> <Nichevo> stress test! 00:42:49 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> okay, so its 60 days 00:43:06 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> last time we fly in mexicans to do the job 00:44:41 <PublicServer> <Nichevo> there.. Now I'm starting to get more pleased 00:44:48 <PublicServer> <Nichevo> it's even straight 00:46:46 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> can i make a sandbox? 00:47:08 <PublicServer> <Nichevo> It is possible 00:53:41 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> point of know return <3 00:53:51 <PublicServer> <Nichevo> where? :) 00:54:01 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> in the hearts and minds of us all 00:54:08 <PublicServer> <Nichevo> 'aight 00:54:23 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> kansas 00:54:32 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> oh that works so well 00:54:48 <PublicServer> <Nichevo> what does? 00:54:53 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> you asked where? 00:54:54 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> i say kansas 00:54:57 <PublicServer> <Nichevo> oh 00:55:08 <PublicServer> <Nichevo> So Kansas works? 00:55:17 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> kansas - point of know return 00:55:20 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> get it? 00:55:33 <PublicServer> <Nichevo> nope 00:55:48 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> Kansas - Point of Know Return 00:55:56 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> .mp3 00:56:11 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> ... 00:56:13 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> http://w796.wrzuta.pl/sr/f/8uppI64WqHm 00:57:16 <PublicServer> <Nichevo> aha 00:57:27 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> pffrt 00:57:33 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> they have, like, one song 00:58:28 <PublicServer> *** Nichevo has left the game (connection lost) 00:58:28 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 00:58:52 <HDIEagle> ? 00:59:04 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 00:59:05 <PublicServer> *** Nichevo joined the game 00:59:20 <PublicServer> <Nichevo> stream killed my connection or something 00:59:33 <PublicServer> *** Nichevo has left the game (connection lost) 00:59:34 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 00:59:38 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> what hard drive you got? 00:59:47 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> sata II? 00:59:54 <nichevo> It's crap 01:00:04 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> ata 100? 01:00:08 <nichevo> you got it 01:00:14 <nichevo> 5400rpm 01:00:20 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> should be no problem 01:00:35 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> probably your ic or processor 01:00:47 <nichevo> or might be 4800 01:00:59 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> since everything would be loaded into ram 01:01:06 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> unless you have 512mb or less 01:01:17 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 01:01:17 <PublicServer> *** Nichevo joined the game 01:01:26 <nichevo> ah.. I remember 01:01:38 <HDIEagle> remember what? 01:01:43 <nichevo> I loaded the realtime kernel, so throughput might suffer quite a bit 01:06:41 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> why is this song 9 minutes long 01:06:56 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> and thats only 23% of it... 01:15:54 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> yeh, if you aren't ELO, you shouldn't be messing with synthesizers 01:16:07 <nichevo> ELO? 01:16:17 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> electric light orchestra 01:32:02 <PublicServer> <Nichevo> whatcha doing? 01:32:16 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> staring blindly into space 01:32:39 <PublicServer> <Nichevo> that's nice 01:35:49 *** [com]buster has quit IRC 01:35:50 *** [alt]buster has joined #openttdcoop 01:35:52 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 01:39:25 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> wanna fuck? 01:39:28 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> i mean...something up? 01:39:45 <PublicServer> <Nichevo> not really, and not really :) 01:40:05 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> level bbh05 and start from scratch? 01:40:32 <PublicServer> <Nichevo> I'd rather start all from scratch tomorrow or the day after tomorrow 01:41:02 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> pick a number 1-10 01:41:23 *** XeryusTC is now known as Xeryus|bnc 01:41:31 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> go on 01:41:39 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> it'll be fun 01:42:09 *** Xeryus|bnc is now known as XeryusTC 01:47:24 <HDIEagle> oh hi 01:47:39 <HDIEagle> XeryusTC 01:52:38 *** Polygon has quit IRC 02:06:28 <PublicServer> *** Nichevo has left the game (connection lost) 02:06:28 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 02:06:52 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 02:06:53 <PublicServer> *** Nichevo joined the game 02:09:50 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop 02:10:01 <PeterT> !playercount 02:10:01 <PublicServer> PeterT: Number of players: 2 02:10:03 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> sometimes its like doubling up slows everything down 02:10:03 <PeterT> !players 02:10:05 <PublicServer> PeterT: Client 309 (Orange) is HD1Eagle, in company 1 (OpenTTDCoop) 02:10:05 <PublicServer> PeterT: Client 319 (Orange) is Nichevo, in company 1 (OpenTTDCoop) 02:10:15 <PeterT> !password 02:10:15 <PublicServer> PeterT: abbeys 02:10:20 <PublicServer> <Nichevo> it can :) 02:10:24 <PublicServer> *** Peter joined the game 02:10:37 <PublicServer> <Peter> hey 02:10:51 <PublicServer> <Nichevo> hellu 02:10:55 <PublicServer> <Peter> where would be some good station designs for double entrences? 02:11:24 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> uh...want to sandbox? 02:11:39 <PublicServer> <Peter> hmm? 02:12:14 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> heres a sandbox 02:12:18 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> make a double slh 02:12:25 <nichevo> PeterT: http://wiki.openttd.org/Railway_stations 02:15:02 <PublicServer> <Peter> thanks 02:17:57 *** [com]buster has quit IRC 02:17:58 *** [alt]buster has joined #openttdcoop 02:18:00 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 02:18:04 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> this slh works in 5% of all cases 02:18:20 <PublicServer> <Nichevo> that's only 95% to go 02:18:24 <PublicServer> <Nichevo> where you at? 02:18:30 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> sandbox 02:18:35 <PublicServer> <Nichevo> oh 02:18:53 *** KenjiE20|LT has quit IRC 02:20:59 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> DIIEEEEEEE 02:21:36 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> damnit 02:22:03 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> always make sandboxes below sea level 02:22:03 <PublicServer> <Peter> ok, im gonna practice the stations 02:22:05 <PublicServer> <Peter> thanks 02:22:06 <PublicServer> *** Peter has left the game (leaving) 02:22:14 <HDIEagle> you can practice here 02:22:18 <HDIEagle> so we can give you advice 02:22:36 *** PeterT has quit IRC 02:23:00 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> lets play a game 02:23:05 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> i give a scenario, you build a SLH 02:23:32 <PublicServer> <Nichevo> I'm gonna go to bed 02:23:40 <PublicServer> <Nichevo> It's 4:32 AM 02:23:47 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> let me kill sandbox 02:23:52 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> k 02:23:55 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> 'night 02:27:41 *** Fuco has quit IRC 02:28:22 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> k, good night 02:28:27 <PublicServer> <Nichevo> nite 02:28:30 <PublicServer> *** HD1Eagle has left the game (leaving) 02:28:31 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 02:30:13 <PublicServer> *** Nichevo has left the game (leaving) 02:56:13 <HDIEagle> !grf 02:56:14 <PublicServer> HDIEagle: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/GRF (Version 7.3) 02:56:17 <HDIEagle> !help 02:56:17 <PublicServer> HDIEagle: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands 03:00:33 *** Aali_ has joined #openttdcoop 03:02:23 *** Aali has quit IRC 03:42:29 *** HDIEagle has quit IRC 04:20:39 *** HDIEagle has joined #openttdcoop 05:36:03 *** HDIEagle has quit IRC 05:39:13 *** Wurzel49 has joined #openttdcoop 05:47:30 *** De_Ghosty has joined #openttdcoop 05:52:03 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop 05:52:03 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 06:04:12 *** Root49 has joined #openttdcoop 06:09:50 *** Wurzel49 has quit IRC 06:11:27 *** HDIEagle has joined #openttdcoop 06:18:39 *** DZs has joined #openttdcoop 06:18:51 *** DZs is now known as Z 06:18:59 *** Z is now known as ZS 06:19:57 <ZS> !password 06:19:57 <PublicServer> ZS: befall 06:26:52 *** ZS has quit IRC 06:40:16 *** Root49 has quit IRC 06:40:37 *** Wurzel49 has joined #openttdcoop 06:58:38 *** Venxir has joined #openttdcoop 07:00:09 <HDIEagle> !players 07:00:10 <PublicServer> HDIEagle: There are currently no clients connected to the server 07:21:32 <ODM> poor eagle 07:30:41 <HDIEagle> gee wilikers ODM 07:31:47 <ODM> what? 07:31:53 <HDIEagle> :( 07:35:24 <ODM> im confused 07:35:28 <HDIEagle> :( 07:35:37 <ODM> yes that makes me draw that face 07:35:43 <HDIEagle> :? 07:43:38 *** Wurzel49 has quit IRC 07:50:03 *** elmex has quit IRC 07:50:35 *** elmex has joined #openttdcoop 08:23:44 *** FiCE has quit IRC 08:38:47 *** Zulan_ has joined #openttdcoop 08:39:36 *** Razaekal has joined #openttdcoop 08:39:36 *** Razaekel is now known as Guest761 08:39:36 *** Razaekal is now known as Razaekel 08:40:32 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 08:41:35 *** Zulan has quit IRC 08:46:28 *** Guest761 has quit IRC 08:55:12 <HDIEagle> goodnight european doods 08:55:23 *** HDIEagle has quit IRC 09:27:33 *** Wurzel49 has joined #openttdcoop 09:28:24 *** theholyduck has joined #openttdcoop 09:31:55 *** James has joined #openttdcoop 09:32:29 *** James is now known as Guest765 09:33:29 *** Guest765 has quit IRC 09:47:58 *** [com]buster has quit IRC 09:56:09 *** Zulan_ has quit IRC 10:07:40 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop 10:13:05 *** Chris_Booth is now known as Booth 10:13:08 <Booth> hello all 10:21:47 *** dr_gonzo has joined #openttdcoop 10:28:03 *** Yrol has joined #openttdcoop 10:28:19 <Yrol> hello :o) does someone of you use the The North American Renewal Set (NARS2) from pikkawikki? i havea question regarding the trainintroductiondates. 10:29:51 <Mark> just ask 10:30:01 <Mark> if anyone knows the answer he'll answer 10:30:19 <Yrol> http://users.tt-forums.net/pikka/wiki/index.php?title=NARS_Vehicle_List 10:30:43 <Yrol> there are dates like A 1970+ and B 1970- without an ending date, where is the difference? 10:30:46 <Ammler> still no question :-) 10:30:58 <Mark> some will expire 10:31:02 <Mark> others will not 10:31:14 <Mark> the one with an ending date wont be available after that date 10:31:33 <Mark> unless you enable the patch option "vehicles never expire" 10:31:42 <Mark> ..which most people do :P 10:31:43 <Yrol> as i explained, i am not asking about those with an ending date :o) 10:31:56 <Mark> those without never expire.. 10:32:18 <Mark> you asked about the difference 10:32:22 <Mark> not about any specific 10:32:35 <Mark> thougt the ones without ending dates to be obvious 10:32:37 <Yrol> well ,about the differnce between + and -, as outlined in my question-explanation 10:33:01 <Mark> ah that differece 10:33:56 <Mark> no idea actually :P 10:34:56 <Ammler> I would guess, none 10:35:20 <Mark> i would guess the same 10:36:28 <Mark> there actually were wood-powered steamers? 10:37:01 <Yrol> well, thanks then :o) °waves° 10:37:23 <Mark> i think the + might mean it's an upgrade 10:37:38 <Mark> and the - means it's final 10:39:52 <Ammler> Mark: true 10:40:10 <Ammler> as the plus is on those which have a final timespan as last. 10:43:05 *** Wurzel49 has quit IRC 10:48:45 *** Yrol has quit IRC 10:49:58 <Mark> Yrol: thank you for figuring that out 10:50:19 <Mark> oh he didnt say that? 10:50:24 <Mark> brb omelet time 10:53:51 <ODM> me wants 10:55:26 * Ammler don't 11:22:51 *** ODM has quit IRC 11:23:40 *** Wurzel49 has joined #openttdcoop 11:24:45 *** mensi has joined #openttdcoop 11:24:56 <mensi> !playercount 11:24:56 <PublicServer> mensi: Number of players: 0 11:25:15 *** Polygon has joined #openttdcoop 11:29:52 <Ammler> mensi: would you use a CH translation of openttd? 11:40:44 *** Wurzel49 has quit IRC 11:42:43 <mensi> hehe 11:42:46 <mensi> hmm don't think so 11:43:05 <mensi> das artet doch eh wieder us i wele dialekt und so 11:50:45 <Ammler> zĂĽri dĂĽtsch dängg 11:52:37 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 11:52:37 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 11:54:23 *** KenjiE20|SSH has joined #openttdcoop 11:54:23 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20|SSH 12:05:19 <Booth> !password 12:05:19 <PublicServer> Booth: lotion 12:06:11 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 12:10:35 <Mark> !password 12:10:35 <PublicServer> Mark: crispy 12:10:45 *** PH0N0 has joined #openttdcoop 12:11:31 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 12:11:32 <PublicServer> *** Mark joined the game 12:12:14 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> hi mark 12:12:18 <PublicServer> <Mark> hello 12:12:55 <PublicServer> <Mark> interesting how that piece of ML needs 4 tracks 12:13:19 <PublicServer> <Mark> in advance i thought the food plant to have way more trains 12:13:42 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> not realy wood always has more in artic 12:14:00 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (connection lost) 12:14:01 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 12:14:05 <PublicServer> <Mark> actually it has more to do with the forests being connected first 12:14:22 <PublicServer> <Mark> they looked inviting as there were many close to each other 12:14:28 <Booth> i was laging like a bitch 12:14:31 *** PH0N0 has left #openttdcoop 12:15:55 <PublicServer> *** Mark has left the game (leaving) 12:16:03 <Mark> @stage Finishing 12:16:03 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #146 (r16621) | STAGE: Finishing | www.openttdcoop.org | Use !help for IRC-commands | Cargo Destinations at #openttdcoop.dev | Client record: 24 | Screenshots: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/img/" 12:18:15 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop 12:18:20 <Ammler> now, it is also time to prepare next game :-) 12:18:38 <Mark> ODM was working on that 12:19:24 <Ammler> @stage Finishing, waiting for ODMs scenario. 12:19:24 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #146 (r16621) | STAGE: Finishing, waiting for ODMs scenario. | www.openttdcoop.org | Use !help for IRC-commands | Cargo Destinations at #openttdcoop.dev | Client record: 24 | Screenshots: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/img/" 12:19:52 <Ammler> what kind is it? 12:20:44 <Mark> subtrop 12:23:55 *** Yexo has quit IRC 12:23:57 *** Yexo_ has joined #openttdcoop 12:24:26 *** Booth has quit IRC 13:58:51 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 14:03:55 * Mark is going to make a new map 14:04:08 <Mark> unless someone comes up with one pretty soon i'll just load that one 14:11:43 <mensi> !playercount 14:11:43 <PublicServer> mensi: Number of players: 0 14:15:29 <Mark> !password 14:15:29 <PublicServer> Mark: outwit 14:15:54 <PublicServer> *** Mark joined the game 14:16:11 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 14:16:13 <PublicServer> *** mensi joined the game 14:16:25 <Mark> !rcon save ps146 14:16:26 <PublicServer> Mark: Saving map... 14:16:26 <PublicServer> Mark: Map sucessfully saved to ps146.sav 14:19:25 <mensi> woohoo jinglehead forest produces 2097 tons 14:23:38 <Ammler> Mark: transfered ;-) 14:23:46 <PublicServer> *** mensi has left the game (leaving) 14:23:46 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 14:23:47 <Mark> k 14:23:52 <Mark> done with the archive in a sec 14:23:55 <Mark> even added users :P 14:24:00 <Ammler> hehe 14:24:08 <Ammler> not me; I assume :-) 14:24:48 <Ammler> next a RV only game? 14:25:15 <Mark> uhm, no :P 14:25:21 <Ammler> :-) ok 14:25:35 <Mark> i'm not doing one of those again without a proper RV acceleration model 14:26:07 <Ammler> but the rv stop handling is better 14:26:48 <Mark> that was fine 14:27:03 <Mark> it's the 45km/h slowdowns at hills and turns that kills effeciency 14:27:18 <Ammler> no 14:27:28 <Ammler> most annoying was the loading/unloading 14:27:36 <Mark> not for me :P 14:28:04 <PublicServer> *** Mark has left the game (leaving) 14:28:48 *** Aali_ is now known as Aali 14:30:13 <Mark> !rcon ls 14:30:14 <PublicServer> Mark: 0) .. (Parent directory) 14:30:14 <PublicServer> Mark: 1) archive/ (Directory) 14:30:14 <PublicServer> Mark: 2) autosave/ (Directory) 14:30:14 <PublicServer> Mark: 3) uploads/ (Directory) 14:30:14 <PublicServer> Mark: 4) ps146.sav 14:30:14 <PublicServer> Mark: 5) game.sav 14:30:14 <PublicServer> Mark: 6) ps145.sav 14:30:16 <PublicServer> Mark: 7) PSG145.sav 14:30:16 <PublicServer> Mark: 8) testsave.sav 14:30:19 <PublicServer> Mark: 9) ps145fix.sav 14:30:19 <PublicServer> Mark: you have 18 more messages 14:30:23 <Mark> !rcon cd 3 14:30:24 <Mark> !rcon ls 14:30:24 <PublicServer> Mark: 0) .. (Parent directory) 14:30:24 <PublicServer> Mark: 1) archive/ (Directory) 14:30:24 <PublicServer> Mark: 2) somepsgstart.sav 14:30:24 <PublicServer> Mark: 3) psg146start.sav 14:30:25 <PublicServer> Mark: 4) 145start.sav 14:30:25 <PublicServer> Mark: 5) deepfried.sav 14:30:27 <PublicServer> Mark: 6) psg144start.sav 14:30:27 <PublicServer> Mark: 7) OpenTTDCoop Ltd., 11-01-1936.sav 14:30:29 <PublicServer> Mark: 8) OpenTTDCoop Ltd., 30-01-1936.sav 14:30:29 <PublicServer> Mark: 9) estuary.sav 14:30:31 <PublicServer> Mark: you have 5 more messages 14:30:32 <Mark> !rcon load 2 14:31:09 <Ammler> @nr 147 14:31:21 <planetmaker> @ms 148 14:31:22 <mensi> !password 14:31:22 <PublicServer> mensi: kayaks 14:31:33 <Ammler> ms? 14:31:44 <planetmaker> I just though I make a variation on your command :) 14:31:48 <KenjiE20> @help setpsg 14:31:48 <Webster> KenjiE20: (setpsg <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "topic change 2 s/PSG #\d+/PSG #/". 14:31:49 <planetmaker> no idea what you did. :P 14:32:06 <Mark> @setpsg 147 14:32:06 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #147 (r16621) | STAGE: Finishing, waiting for ODMs scenario. | www.openttdcoop.org | Use !help for IRC-commands | Cargo Destinations at #openttdcoop.dev | Client record: 24 | Screenshots: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/img/" 14:32:11 <Mark> @stage MM + Planning 14:32:11 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #147 (r16621) | STAGE: MM + Planning | www.openttdcoop.org | Use !help for IRC-commands | Cargo Destinations at #openttdcoop.dev | Client record: 24 | Screenshots: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/img/" 14:32:17 <Mark> hmm 14:32:22 <Mark> the server is not even online :P 14:32:28 <Ammler> @stage MM + Planning (ODM lost) 14:32:28 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #147 (r16621) | STAGE: MM + Planning (ODM lost) | www.openttdcoop.org | Use !help for IRC-commands | Cargo Destinations at #openttdcoop.dev | Client record: 24 | Screenshots: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/img/" 14:32:33 <planetmaker> hm... this weather here starts to get annoying... 14:32:34 <KenjiE20> lol 14:32:50 <Mark> !rcon "load 2" 14:32:50 <PublicServer> Mark: ERROR: command or variable not found 14:32:55 <planetmaker> it was so nice this morning and it continuously rains since ~14h local time 14:32:59 <Mark> !rcon ls 14:32:59 <PublicServer> Mark: 0) .. (Parent directory) 14:33:00 <PublicServer> Mark: 1) archive/ (Directory) 14:33:00 <PublicServer> Mark: 2) somepsgstart.sav 14:33:00 <PublicServer> Mark: 3) psg146start.sav 14:33:00 <PublicServer> Mark: 4) 145start.sav 14:33:00 <PublicServer> Mark: 5) deepfried.sav 14:33:00 <PublicServer> Mark: 6) psg144start.sav 14:33:02 <PublicServer> Mark: 7) OpenTTDCoop Ltd., 11-01-1936.sav 14:33:02 <PublicServer> Mark: 8) OpenTTDCoop Ltd., 30-01-1936.sav 14:33:04 <PublicServer> Mark: 9) estuary.sav 14:33:04 <PublicServer> Mark: you have 5 more messages 14:33:05 <Mark> !rcon load 2 14:33:07 <Ammler> maybe grf issues? 14:33:10 <Ammler> !info 14:33:10 <PublicServer> Ammler: ERROR: This command/variable is only available to a network server. 14:33:24 <Mark> works locally.. 14:33:26 <Mark> will check though 14:33:27 <planetmaker> grf issue is the usual answer actually :) 14:33:33 <planetmaker> !content 14:33:43 <PublicServer> *** planetmaker has updated content from BaNaNaS. 14:33:49 <planetmaker> !rcon load 2 14:33:55 <planetmaker> !info 14:33:55 <PublicServer> planetmaker: ERROR: This command/variable is only available to a network server. 14:33:58 <planetmaker> hm. 14:33:58 <Ammler> he? 14:34:11 <Ammler> lurking... 14:34:16 <planetmaker> what? 14:34:30 <planetmaker> oh, sorry. it has to read WHAT?! 14:34:32 <planetmaker> :P 14:34:41 <Ammler> dbg: [net] getaddrinfo for hostname "ps.openttdcoop.org", port 3979, address family either IPv4 or IPv6 and socket type tcp failed: Temporary failure in name resolution 14:35:04 <PublicServer> Server closed down by admin 14:35:07 <PublicServer> Server has exited 14:35:08 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 14:35:25 <Mark> !rcon ls 14:35:29 <Mark> oh great 14:35:36 <Mark> could someone load somepsgstart2.sav? 14:35:37 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 14:35:37 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 14:35:37 <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)' 14:35:37 <PublicServer> @revision r16621 14:35:37 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 14:35:37 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #147 (r16621) | STAGE: MM + Planning (ODM lost) | www.openttdcoop.org | Use !help for IRC-commands | Cargo Destinations at #openttdcoop.dev | Client record: 24 | Screenshots: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/img/" 14:35:53 <Ammler> !info 14:35:53 <PublicServer> Ammler: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'OTTDC' Year Founded: 1970 Money: 99808 Loan: 100000 Value: 1 (T:0, R:0, P:0, S:0) unprotected 14:35:54 <Mark> !rcon ls 14:35:54 <PublicServer> Mark: 0) .. (Parent directory) 14:35:54 <PublicServer> Mark: 1) archive/ (Directory) 14:35:54 <PublicServer> Mark: 2) autosave/ (Directory) 14:35:54 <PublicServer> Mark: 3) uploads/ (Directory) 14:35:54 <PublicServer> Mark: 4) ps146.sav 14:35:56 <PublicServer> Mark: 5) game.sav 14:35:56 <PublicServer> Mark: 6) ps145.sav 14:35:58 <PublicServer> Mark: 7) PSG145.sav 14:35:58 <PublicServer> Mark: 8) testsave.sav 14:35:59 <Mark> !rcon cd 3 14:36:00 <PublicServer> Mark: 9) ps145fix.sav 14:36:00 <PublicServer> Mark: you have 18 more messages 14:36:06 <Ammler> Mark, I loaded it already 14:36:11 <Mark> oh ok 14:36:15 <Ammler> or isn't it the right?= 14:36:22 <Ammler> !url 14:36:22 <PublicServer> Ammler: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/ 14:36:30 <Mark> !password 14:36:30 <PublicServer> Mark: itched 14:36:40 <PublicServer> *** Mark joined the game 14:36:42 <PublicServer> <Mark> i be in 14:37:07 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 14:37:08 <PublicServer> *** AmmIer joined the game 14:37:28 <Ammler> Base Costs Mod 2.0beta2 <-- hehe 14:37:39 <PublicServer> *** mensi joined the game 14:37:52 <mensi> uuh a big one 14:38:01 <Ammler> useless, if you cheat money anyway ;-) 14:39:08 <PublicServer> <AmmIer> but a nice "default" map 14:39:40 *** dangerdan has joined #openttdcoop 14:39:42 <Mark> @stage Planning 14:39:42 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #147 (r16621) | STAGE: Planning | www.openttdcoop.org | Use !help for IRC-commands | Cargo Destinations at #openttdcoop.dev | Client record: 24 | Screenshots: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/img/" 14:39:51 <PublicServer> *** mensi has left the game (leaving) 14:39:52 <dangerdan> hi guys 14:40:01 <Ammler> DANGER 14:40:03 <PublicServer> <Mark> hello 14:40:29 <PublicServer> <AmmIer> oh, heya :-) 14:40:44 <PublicServer> <AmmIer> lol, MM done 14:40:49 <Mark> !rcon patch plane_speed 1 14:41:22 <PublicServer> <Mark> just have to add some planes 14:43:15 <Ammler> planetmaker: what does "FYI" mean? 14:43:28 <dangerdan> for your information 14:43:35 <PublicServer> <Mark> he asked planetmaker 14:43:39 <Ammler> :-D 14:43:41 <PublicServer> <Mark> your answer doesnt count 14:43:45 <dangerdan> 8C 14:44:32 <Ammler> I asked planetmaker, because he ueses it many times, and I never really thought about, what it means. 14:44:38 <planetmaker> hehe :P 14:45:03 <planetmaker> sorry, obviously some abbreviations crept into my language usage :P 14:45:05 <Ammler> but dangerdan seems to be right. 14:45:14 <planetmaker> l337 sp34k :P 14:45:18 <planetmaker> yes, he is. 14:45:20 <dangerdan> was only trying to help :P 14:45:40 <planetmaker> dangerously right... 14:45:45 <Ammler> help Mark, he needs it more. ;-) 14:45:47 <planetmaker> ... he may know too much ... hm... 14:45:49 <dangerdan> 8C 14:45:53 <Ammler> well, maybe not possible anymore. 14:46:01 <PublicServer> <Mark> help me? 14:46:09 <planetmaker> true. 14:46:10 <Ammler> impossible? 14:46:24 <Mark> !rcon patch town_growth_rate 0 14:54:30 <dangerdan> !password 14:54:30 <PublicServer> dangerdan: direst 14:54:44 <PublicServer> *** dangerDAN_ joined the game 14:54:49 *** Fuco has joined #openttdcoop 14:56:20 <dangerdan> busses and planes? :S 14:56:35 <PublicServer> <Mark> ssssh 14:56:37 <PublicServer> <Mark> dont tell ammler 14:56:41 <dangerdan> lol? 14:57:21 <PublicServer> <Mark> this is called MM 14:57:27 <PublicServer> <dangerDAN_> MM? 14:57:31 <PublicServer> <Mark> we make money while people make plans 14:57:36 <PublicServer> <Mark> then we vote for a plan 14:57:41 <PublicServer> <Mark> which is the final network 14:57:48 <PublicServer> <Mark> plan = network plan 14:57:51 <PublicServer> <dangerDAN_> but no one has made a plan yet? and its 1971? 14:58:04 <PublicServer> <Mark> contains a ML layout and some important data 14:58:08 <PublicServer> <Mark> we started in 1970 14:58:13 <PublicServer> <dangerDAN_> lol kk 14:58:14 <PublicServer> <Mark> about 10 minutes ago 14:58:54 <PublicServer> <dangerDAN_> sorry im kinda new to this only really play coop with my mate 14:59:11 <PublicServer> <dangerDAN_> i know how to play tho 15:01:17 <PublicServer> <Mark> if you also know how to play by our rules you should be fine then 15:01:30 <PublicServer> <dangerDAN_> yeh i read your wiki all the time 15:01:41 <PublicServer> <AmmIer> hehe 15:01:46 <PublicServer> <dangerDAN_> usually have it open in second window :P 15:02:25 <PublicServer> <dangerDAN_> id make a plan but it'd be shit 15:02:40 *** [com]buster has joined #openttdcoop 15:02:40 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o [com]buster 15:02:54 <PublicServer> <Mark> just make it 15:02:58 <PublicServer> <Mark> what do you have to lose? 15:03:14 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop 15:03:31 <dangerdan> nothing really but i dont really know how to, you just make stations and tracks near where it says !!network plans? 15:03:39 <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah 15:03:52 <PublicServer> <Mark> you basically make a schemetical minature version of the plan you have in mind 15:03:54 <dangerdan> what should be the main point? connecting up two big industries? 15:04:03 <gleeb> !dl lin 15:04:03 <PublicServer> gleeb: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r16621/openttd-trunk-r16621-linux-generic-i686.tar.bz2 15:04:11 *** Kangoo has joined #openttdcoop 15:04:14 <Kangoo> !password 15:04:14 <PublicServer> Kangoo: direst 15:04:14 <Chris_Booth> !dl 15:04:14 <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: !dl autostart|autottd|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x 15:04:22 <Chris_Booth> !dl autostart 15:04:23 <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Autostart 15:04:30 <PublicServer> <Mark> usually people put main stations and ML layouts in their plans 15:04:31 <planetmaker> heya Chris_Booth :) 15:04:53 <PublicServer> <Mark> and some information on ML width, train length, special condititons.. 15:05:00 <Chris_Booth> hello all 15:05:05 <PublicServer> <dangerDAN_> o someones doing one 15:05:08 <Chris_Booth> !dl autoupdate 15:05:08 <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: http://www.openttdcoop.org/winupdater 15:05:09 <PublicServer> <dangerDAN_> ill watch n learn lol 15:05:10 <PublicServer> *** Gleeb joined the game 15:05:51 <planetmaker> hehe... there are so many auto* things already... 15:05:55 <Chris_Booth> i am going to play more in this game 15:06:14 <planetmaker> !info 15:06:14 <PublicServer> planetmaker: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'OTTDC' Year Founded: 1970 Money: 6740517 Loan: 0 Value: 8592238 (T:0, R:35, P:10, S:0) unprotected 15:06:18 <planetmaker> hm... 15:06:20 <PublicServer> <Mark> there's a basic example plan 15:06:23 <Kangoo> !password 15:06:23 <PublicServer> Kangoo: cloaks 15:06:27 <PublicServer> <Mark> something like that is fine 15:06:36 <PublicServer> *** Kangoo joined the game 15:06:57 <dangerdan> what are secondary trains? 15:07:20 <planetmaker> good question :) 15:07:40 <PublicServer> <dangerDAN_> trains on sidelines? 15:07:54 <Chris_Booth> !passwrod 15:07:57 <Chris_Booth> !password 15:07:57 <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: cloaks 15:08:02 <PublicServer> <Mark> trains transporting processed goods 15:08:08 <PublicServer> <Mark> goods and steel in this case 15:08:12 <PublicServer> <dangerDAN_> ic 15:08:25 <PublicServer> <Mark> ie trains transporting cargo produced by a secondary industry 15:08:35 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 15:08:44 <PublicServer> <Mark> we also like to call those 1st tier and 2nd tier 15:08:52 <PublicServer> <dangerDAN_> k awesome 15:09:05 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (connection lost) 15:09:19 <PublicServer> <Mark> i'll kill that example plan now or someone might actually vote for it 15:10:26 <dangerdan> lol 15:10:51 <PublicServer> <Mark> that happened before: "hmm i like that plan, whose is it?" 15:13:38 <PublicServer> *** Kangoo has left the game (connection lost) 15:14:51 <PublicServer> *** Kangoo joined the game 15:14:52 *** Chris_Booth_ has joined #openttdcoop 15:14:58 *** satyap has joined #openttdcoop 15:15:03 <Chris_Booth_> !password 15:15:03 <PublicServer> Chris_Booth_: cloaks 15:15:08 <planetmaker> hehe... wifi? 15:15:31 *** Chris_Booth_ is now known as booth 15:15:44 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 15:16:22 <PublicServer> <Mark> uh-oh 15:16:43 *** FiCE has joined #openttdcoop 15:16:54 <satyap> I have a model with attr_accessor :tree_id. I want a has_many :nodes, :through relation with conditions => ['tree_id=?', self.tree_id] How do i do that? so I can do m=Model.find(:first); m.tree_id=2; m.nodes --> returns nodes with tree_id=2? 15:16:58 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (connection lost) 15:17:03 <satyap> WRONG channel. /me idiot 15:17:06 <Mark> satyap: yes 15:17:19 <booth> !password 15:17:19 <PublicServer> booth: cloaks 15:17:43 <satyap> sorry. i came in here to say I ran openttd over an ssh X forward, and all i got was a blank screen 15:17:54 <PublicServer> *** planetm4ker joined the game 15:17:56 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 15:18:02 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> ho 15:18:19 <PublicServer> <Mark> ha 15:18:30 *** Kangoo has quit IRC 15:18:58 <satyap> btw i have an L_L_R_R ML, and a T-junction to an L_R sideline. am I complicating it too much if the junction is 36 tiles long and about 40 tiles tall? 15:19:06 <satyap> (yeah, i know, show a screenie) 15:19:31 <Mark> depends on TL, CL, trainspeed, traffic level, TF 15:19:48 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> one dimension sounds a bit big. The other with joiners is fine IMO 15:20:06 <Mark> if you have TL30 it's pretty tiny 15:20:26 <satyap> TL7, CL=i don't know, should be 7 i think, trainspeed 177km/h, no traffic yet, an no TF (flat map) 15:21:03 <KenjiE20> @traincl 177 15:21:03 <Webster> CL 5.65153077165 required for rail at speed 177km/h (or TL if it's shorter) 15:21:05 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 15:21:05 *** booth is now known as Chris_Booth 15:21:06 <Mark> if it's fully balanced and doubled bridges, it's not that big 15:21:08 <mensi> !password 15:21:08 <PublicServer> mensi: doting 15:21:14 <satyap> ah, thanks 15:21:19 <PublicServer> *** mensi joined the game 15:21:44 <satyap> holy cow there's a cl calculator? coool 15:21:54 <KenjiE20> there is now :) 15:22:01 <satyap> i'm not sure it's balance, but bridges are doubled 15:22:39 *** Kangoo has joined #openttdcoop 15:22:57 <mensi> who did the inverse nazi network plan? 15:23:12 <PublicServer> <Gleeb> You should read the name. 15:23:18 <mensi> ah ;) 15:23:20 <PublicServer> <Gleeb> Also, it's not a nazi symbol. 15:23:23 <satyap> inverse nazi? oy. i'd like to see that (morbid fascination) 15:23:28 <PublicServer> <Gleeb> It's a hindu symbol. 15:23:32 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> gleeb yeah... just wrong way around ;) 15:23:34 <satyap> but i'd have to go download a new version. such a pain, no? :) 15:24:10 <mensi> I know, it's a lot... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika 15:24:11 <Webster> Title: Swastika - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) 15:24:11 <PublicServer> <Gleeb> It's based on the H-plan that I came up with ;) 15:24:12 <mensi> buuut 15:24:25 <mensi> that doesn't change the fact that your first thought is "nazi" when you see it 15:24:39 <PublicServer> <Mark> we've had that layout many times before 15:24:43 <PublicServer> <Gleeb> That's because people have a silly fascination with hitler. 15:25:05 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i have the winning plan 15:25:40 <PublicServer> <Mark> LR ML? 15:25:53 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> we need some fun for expansion 15:26:11 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> plus all goods will be on maglev lines 15:26:20 * satyap is itching to get back into the multiplayer scene 15:26:31 *** scook0__ has joined #openttdcoop 15:26:31 <satyap> but i don't want to screw up my current installation 15:26:41 <PublicServer> *** mensi has left the game (leaving) 15:27:09 <mensi> "screw up your current installation" ? 15:27:10 <Chris_Booth> then make 2 installs 15:27:22 <Chris_Booth> copy the files in a directory call openttd2 15:27:24 <PublicServer> <Gleeb> See, I was gonna go for that, PM :P 15:27:24 <mensi> I have 11 installs 15:27:24 <Chris_Booth> or something 15:27:47 *** Chris_Booth is now known as Booth 15:28:06 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> that might be excessive 15:28:08 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> 11 installs 15:28:11 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> why? 15:28:23 <satyap> haha, 11 15:28:41 <satyap> yeah i'm afraid of it overwriting the .openttd/openttd.cfg file with incompatible stuff 15:28:47 <satyap> i'm sure i can work around it 15:28:54 <satyap> but that conflicts with my lazy streak 15:29:40 <satyap> this is entirely my problem, i admit 15:30:03 <nichevo> !password 15:30:03 <PublicServer> nichevo: doting 15:30:03 <Mark> i have 14 installs and issues with my openttd.cfg at all 15:30:08 <Mark> and no* 15:30:41 <PublicServer> <Gleeb> I have SO many installs, it's silly. I use the same cfg in 2 different OSes. 15:30:50 <PublicServer> <Gleeb> No problems here. 15:30:58 <satyap> interesting 15:31:17 <PublicServer> *** Nichevo joined the game 15:31:45 <mensi> just copy your data stuff into your ~/.openttd or My Documents\OpenTTD and have as many openttd installs as you want 15:31:46 <satyap> i guess i could put the cfg into version control and sto pworrying about it 15:31:54 <mensi> just download the archive and unpack 15:31:57 <PublicServer> <Nichevo> good afternoon 15:32:10 <PublicServer> <Mark> hello 15:32:13 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop 15:32:13 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 15:32:33 <PublicServer> <Mark> planetm4ker: i'm dying to find out if that outer loop is oneway or twoway :P 15:32:39 <satyap> !dlin 15:32:44 *** Killian_ has quit IRC 15:32:52 <PublicServer> <Gleeb> I'm guessing 1-way. 15:33:02 <PublicServer> <Gleeb> But thetrack layout suggests 2-way. 15:33:29 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> we should have a1 way 2 way guessing board 15:33:34 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> its like a voting board 15:33:36 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but we guess 15:34:13 <mensi> !password 15:34:14 <PublicServer> mensi: doting 15:34:21 <PublicServer> *** mensi joined the game 15:34:43 <PublicServer> <Nichevo> chris: two seperate networks, then? 15:36:15 <satyap> dlin 15:36:20 * satyap pokes the bot 15:36:30 <Booth> !dl lin 15:36:30 <PublicServer> Booth: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r16621/openttd-trunk-r16621-linux-generic-i686.tar.bz2 15:36:35 <Booth> try that one 15:36:36 <satyap> ah thanks 15:36:47 <Booth> or !dl lin64 15:36:52 <Booth> !dl lin64 15:36:52 <PublicServer> Booth: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r16621/openttd-trunk-r16621-linux-generic-amd64.tar.bz2 15:37:08 <satyap> oy, i should've got the 64 15:37:28 * satyap tries the other one anyway 15:39:06 <ODM> !password 15:39:06 <PublicServer> ODM: chatty 15:39:08 *** Venxir has quit IRC 15:39:12 <PublicServer> <Gleeb> Is this OpenGFX? 15:39:18 <PublicServer> <Mark> no 15:39:22 <PublicServer> <Nichevo> I like the trees! 15:39:22 <PublicServer> *** 0DM joined the game 15:39:30 <PublicServer> <0DM> stolentrees 15:39:41 <PublicServer> <Gleeb> What's with the coastline? 15:39:47 <PublicServer> <Mark> it's newwater 15:39:58 <PublicServer> <Gleeb> s'ugly 15:40:00 <PublicServer> <Nichevo> yup 15:40:09 <PublicServer> <Nichevo> the trees ought to be swaying 15:40:18 <PublicServer> <0DM> although i like the water itself more:p 15:40:27 <PublicServer> <Gleeb> I hate the water. 15:40:41 * satyap pokes ldconfig 15:40:43 *** Venxir has joined #openttdcoop 15:40:59 <satyap> yep, i'm still an idiot 15:41:03 * satyap grabs the 64 bit version 15:41:40 <PublicServer> *** 0DM has left the game (leaving) 15:42:59 <satyap> it's alive 15:43:49 * satyap likes the online content thing 15:44:22 <satyap> !grf 15:44:22 <PublicServer> satyap: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/GRF (Version 7.3) 15:44:26 <PublicServer> * Nichevo wants pax for sure 15:44:40 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i have pax in my plan 15:44:45 <PublicServer> <Nichevo> I know :) 15:44:48 <PublicServer> <Mark> nasty 15:44:56 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> not no the same network 15:45:07 <PublicServer> <Mark> after some 100 games you still didn't find out that doesn't work? 15:45:19 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> it works 15:45:26 <PublicServer> <Mark> never has 15:45:35 <PublicServer> <Nichevo> Mark: what doesn't? 15:45:36 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i have a saved game to prove it 15:45:41 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> one i have been playing 15:45:51 <PublicServer> <Mark> Nichevo: pax and cargo on the same map 15:45:54 <satyap> hm, why don't i have the right grfs? i'm using the ottdcoop grf pack 7.3 15:45:58 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> they do 15:46:01 <PublicServer> <Mark> may worx in SP but not here 15:46:02 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> just not on the same network 15:46:11 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> check your bananas 15:46:13 <PublicServer> <Mark> all right as you wish 15:46:30 <PublicServer> <Gleeb> I find pax NEVER works on the cargo nwtwork without dedicated track. 15:46:36 <PublicServer> <Gleeb> Too much demand. 15:46:38 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> mark why wouldnt it work? 15:46:39 <satyap> yeah pax needs dedicated track 15:46:50 <satyap> in my single games i often put in pax but it's only an add-on 15:46:56 <PublicServer> <Nichevo> isn't that what Chris is proposing? 15:46:58 <PublicServer> <Mark> because people focus on either half of the plan and negclect the other 15:47:03 <PublicServer> <Nichevo> ok 15:47:12 <KenjiE20> <Mark> because people focus on either half of the plan and negclect the other <-- this 15:47:14 <satyap> i just played a single game with road vehicles. trains as after-thought. it sucked. but i got one cityup to 50k :) 15:47:40 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> aaah a 5-k city 15:47:47 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> 50k i mean 15:48:02 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> we have had a city of over a million on thius server 15:48:25 <gleeb> Just a million? pfft 15:48:31 <satyap> i figured 50k would be tiny by your standards :) 15:48:34 *** Kangoo_ has joined #openttdcoop 15:48:42 <PublicServer> *** Kangoo has left the game (connection lost) 15:48:45 <satyap> mind, this was with trams and planes 15:49:03 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> gleeb on coop i think 1.xx million is the bigest we have had 15:49:03 <satyap> anyway, where can i get the grfs for this game? 15:49:11 <PublicServer> <Mark> you could grow a town to well over 500k using a single vehicle 15:49:12 <Ammler> !grf 15:49:12 <PublicServer> Ammler: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/GRF (Version 7.3) 15:49:20 <PublicServer> <Mark> a single RV that is 15:49:25 <Ammler> satyap: read ^ 15:49:30 <satyap> thanks 15:49:36 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> satyap check your bananas 15:49:49 <PublicServer> <Mark> this game doesnt require bananas newgrfs 15:50:07 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> bananas will have them though wont it? 15:50:12 <PublicServer> <Mark> dunno 15:50:15 <PublicServer> <Mark> probably not al 15:50:25 <satyap> hmm i already have the 7.3 pack 15:50:41 *** Kangoo has quit IRC 15:50:48 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> what grf are you missing? 15:50:58 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> check the list manualy 15:51:07 <satyap> several, the one i remember is stolen trees 15:51:16 <satyap> i am now checking out 7.3 via svn into the local data directory 15:51:18 <Ammler> then, you don't have the pack 15:51:23 <Ammler> maybe you need to restart 15:51:27 <satyap> i already had it somewhere in /usr/share/blah/... 15:51:54 <Ammler> if you start with -d misc=3 (?) 15:51:58 *** Progman has quit IRC 15:52:01 <satyap> svn co in progress 15:52:02 <Ammler> you see where openttd is looking for data 15:52:09 <satyap> i'll do that 15:52:26 <Ammler> I once blogged about ;-) 15:52:44 <PublicServer> <Nichevo> Chris, what is BBH2? 15:53:11 <Ammler> @wiki naming 15:53:14 <Webster> Naming conventions - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=naming 15:53:28 * satyap lols slightly at the mangoness of someone besides me 15:53:32 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no it was me 15:53:36 <PublicServer> <Nichevo> it's purpose rather 15:53:38 <PublicServer> <Nichevo> ok 15:53:45 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i put a wrong lable 15:53:52 <PublicServer> <Nichevo> :) 15:53:58 <satyap> !password 15:53:58 <PublicServer> satyap: entrap 15:54:12 <PublicServer> *** satyap joined the game 15:54:42 <PublicServer> <Nichevo> Did people say developing two networks in parallell doesn't tend to pan out? 15:55:02 <PublicServer> <Mark> yes 15:55:08 <PublicServer> <Gleeb> Yes. People tend to only pay attention to one. 15:55:09 <PublicServer> <Mark> i said that 15:55:12 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> mark says it 15:55:19 <PublicServer> <Mark> Chris Booth disagrees 15:55:25 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i do 15:55:26 <KenjiE20> I agree with MArk 15:55:29 <PublicServer> <Mark> because he made a SP game where it does work 15:55:36 <PublicServer> <Mark> which is completely irellevant 15:55:39 <PublicServer> *** Mark has joined spectators 15:55:41 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no 15:55:41 <satyap> i guess it wasn't looking at the system grf. 15:55:43 <PublicServer> <Mark> pizza now 15:55:53 <PublicServer> *** Gleeb has joined spectators 15:55:56 * satyap wanders off for pizza and bf2 15:55:57 <PublicServer> *** mensi has joined spectators 15:55:59 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> the relavance is that a plan / game is not finished until everything is complete 15:56:10 <PublicServer> *** satyap has left the game (leaving) 15:56:48 <PublicServer> <Nichevo> if the cargo was to be developed first it would take great discipline to leave enough room, I guess 15:57:27 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> this is the good thing about coop 15:57:32 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> if you dont like ti dont vote for it 15:58:16 <PublicServer> <Nichevo> I like it, but I don't have the experience to back it up :) 15:58:43 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> everyone get a vote 15:58:52 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> BTW that comment was aimed at mark 16:00:59 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i would advise you a vote for me when voting starts is mostlikly a wasted vote 16:01:10 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i only ever plan for a laugh 16:01:16 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> never to win 16:01:39 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has joined spectators 16:02:14 <PublicServer> <Nichevo> the terrain seem very forgiving 16:02:38 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> for once it is 16:02:45 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but that doesnt make it easy 16:11:23 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> anyone fancy h 2 h tonight? 16:12:29 *** satyap has left #openttdcoop 16:12:36 <PublicServer> *** planetm4ker has left the game (leaving) 16:13:49 *** Kangoo has joined #openttdcoop 16:14:39 *** ChaseMonkey has joined #openttdcoop 16:17:03 *** Kangoo_ has quit IRC 16:23:34 <dangerdan> !password 16:23:34 <PublicServer> dangerdan: thresh 16:24:15 <PublicServer> *** Player joined the game 16:24:21 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> player please change you name 16:24:38 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> open the console 16:24:38 <PublicServer> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 16:24:54 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and type: name"your name here" 16:25:00 <PublicServer> *** dangerDAN_ has left the game (leaving) 16:25:06 <Kangoo> !password 16:25:06 <PublicServer> Kangoo: thresh 16:25:22 <PublicServer> *** dangerDAN_ joined the game 16:25:25 <PublicServer> *** Kangoo joined the game 16:25:27 <PublicServer> *** ChaseMonkey joined the game 16:25:31 <PublicServer> <ChaseMonkey> hey guys 16:26:16 <PublicServer> *** AmmIer has left the game (connection lost) 16:26:26 <PublicServer> <dangerDAN_> we still not decided on a plan? 16:28:20 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> we need a voting bored 16:28:26 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> make a voting bored and vote 16:29:38 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 16:31:12 *** StarLite has joined #openttdcoop 16:31:12 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o StarLite 16:31:39 <PublicServer> <Gleeb> Mensi, you online? 16:32:28 <dangerdan> how are those busses in lumpywell woods making 60k+ each?? 16:32:35 <dangerdan> sorry im noob :P 16:32:47 <PublicServer> <Nichevo> cheating! 16:32:49 <Booth> aaah we a=call it teleporting 16:32:50 <PublicServer> <Gleeb> 1337 hax 16:32:57 <Booth> not realy 16:33:07 <dangerdan> lol? is that something to do with fake stations? 16:33:11 <PublicServer> *** Gleeb has left the game (leaving) 16:33:11 <Booth> look at the distance between the 2 stations signd 16:33:32 <Booth> you transport something 128 tiles in 2 seconds 16:33:54 <dangerdan> how do you connect those stations to the bus stops in the middle though? 16:34:09 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> build a station 16:34:14 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and then press control 16:34:27 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> while pressing ctrl build a new staion 16:34:33 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> a window will pop up 16:34:41 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> select from the list 16:34:56 <dangerdan> omfg 16:34:57 <dangerdan> i c 16:43:20 <KenjiE20> ?: stationwalk 16:43:20 <Webster> The act of creating a station in two spots by adding and removing connecting sections, see: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Stationwalk 16:43:24 <KenjiE20> ^ 16:50:31 <dangerdan> when are we gonna vote for plans? 16:50:58 <KenjiE20> @qiki quickstart 16:51:00 <KenjiE20> @wiki quickstart 16:51:03 <KenjiE20> >_> 16:51:05 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=quickstart 16:51:26 <KenjiE20> ^ that shows 'what to expect and for how long' for each game stage 16:52:19 <KenjiE20> which apparantly is missing a timeframe for voting 16:52:23 <KenjiE20> typicall 16:52:28 <KenjiE20> -l 16:57:31 <Mark> :) 16:57:34 <Mark> hello again 16:58:28 <PublicServer> * Mark wonders where pm's town drop will be 16:59:34 <PublicServer> <Nichevo> and Gleeb? 17:01:41 <PublicServer> <Mark> i assume Gleeb's to be at the hub 17:02:00 <PublicServer> <Mark> no idea what the hub is for otherwise 17:02:31 <PublicServer> <Mark> that voting board is going te be a pain to remove :P 17:03:12 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has joined company #1 17:03:18 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has joined spectators 17:03:30 <PublicServer> <Kangoo> when I think of it, it wasn't that fun to put up either.. xD 17:03:34 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i am off now 17:03:42 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (leaving) 17:04:16 <ODM> anyone here with a wiki account without special powers? a user so to say? 17:04:27 <ODM> who doesnt mind helping me a bit:) 17:04:38 *** ZS has joined #openttdcoop 17:05:05 <ZS> !password 17:05:06 <PublicServer> ZS: egoism 17:05:30 <PublicServer> *** ZS joined the game 17:06:59 <PublicServer> <Mark> i'm just going to put up my SRNW SML plan again 17:07:08 <PublicServer> *** Mark has joined company #1 17:07:13 *** Brianetta has joined #openttdcoop 17:07:13 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Brianetta 17:24:26 <PublicServer> *** tneo joined the game 17:26:03 <PublicServer> <tneo> stop waisting the landscape elo 17:27:10 *** Brianetta has quit IRC 17:27:33 <PublicServer> <Mark> yay i made a ring of signs 17:27:42 <PublicServer> <tneo> yeah 17:27:49 <PublicServer> <tneo> complex plan 17:28:10 <PublicServer> <Mark> it's pretty straight forward once you get the idea :P 17:28:27 <PublicServer> <Mark> it's hard to explain the idea because it has some unconventional elements though 17:28:48 <PublicServer> <Mark> still not sure someone would understand it 17:28:56 <PublicServer> <Mark> basically i'm merging game 65 and 121 17:30:36 <PublicServer> <Mark> dont mess with my plan 17:30:40 <PublicServer> <Mark> or any plan for that matter 17:31:07 <[com]buster> !password 17:31:07 <PublicServer> [com]buster: swings 17:31:17 <PublicServer> *** combuster joined the game 17:31:20 <[com]buster> Lets see if I can make a more attractive plan 17:31:41 <PublicServer> <combuster> woot, flat map 17:32:43 <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah figured it has been a while :P 17:33:13 <Mark> !rcon kick 38 17:33:13 <PublicServer> Mark: *** dangerDAN_ has left the game (kicked by server) 17:33:36 <[com]buster> what, kicking? 17:33:43 <[com]buster> :p 17:33:45 <Mark> still messing about after a warning 17:33:52 <Mark> [19:30] <+PublicServer> <Mark> dont mess with my plan 17:33:52 <Mark> [19:30] <+PublicServer> <Mark> or any plan for that matter 17:33:57 <dangerdan> :( 17:34:02 <dangerdan> j bored 17:34:06 <Mark> and 17:34:08 <Mark> [19:26] <+PublicServer> <tneo> stop waisting the landscape elo 17:34:10 <PublicServer> <combuster> oh you mean that huge mountain that just popped up... 17:34:15 <hylje> !revision 17:34:15 <PublicServer> hylje: Game version is r16621 17:34:15 <dangerdan> that wasnt me mate 17:34:23 <dangerdan> nor the huge mountain 17:35:12 <Mark> you did place the heliport in my plan 17:35:16 <dangerdan> nicht 17:35:27 <dangerdan> the hq was me tho lol sry 17:37:19 *** Zulan has joined #openttdcoop 17:37:24 <PublicServer> <combuster> *** <noodleswig 17:37:33 <PublicServer> <combuster> denies plan building -_- 17:37:45 <PublicServer> <Mark> oioi 17:37:48 <PublicServer> <Mark> more SRNW 17:38:20 <dangerdan> !password 17:38:20 <PublicServer> dangerdan: harked 17:38:35 <PublicServer> *** dangerDAN_ joined the game 17:38:45 <PublicServer> <tneo> there plan 17:39:03 <PublicServer> <Mark> 4-way BBHs with SML will be problematic 17:39:13 <PublicServer> <combuster> ...size issues 17:39:24 <PublicServer> <tneo> :-D 17:39:29 <PublicServer> <tneo> it is a big map 17:39:43 <PublicServer> <tneo> the rest it is simple 17:39:45 <PublicServer> <Mark> only 512^2 :P 17:39:57 <PublicServer> <tneo> o 17:40:06 <PublicServer> <tneo> thought 1024 17:40:35 <PublicServer> <tneo> in that case... 17:41:39 <PublicServer> <Mark> lots of plans though 17:41:42 <PublicServer> <Mark> like that 17:41:58 <PublicServer> <Mark> shall we do point-based voting? 17:42:03 <PublicServer> *** combuster has left the game (connection lost) 17:42:09 <hylje> !address 17:42:18 <hylje> !ip 17:42:18 <PublicServer> hylje: ps.openttdcoop.org 17:42:59 <hylje> bah additional non-bananas grfs 17:43:05 <PublicServer> *** tneo has left the game (leaving) 17:43:09 <Ammler> :-o 17:43:12 <Xaroth> hylje: try !dl autottd 17:43:16 <hylje> !grf 17:43:16 <PublicServer> hylje: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/GRF (Version 7.3) 17:43:17 <Xaroth> and follow that guide 17:43:22 *** [alt]buster has joined #openttdcoop 17:43:22 <PublicServer> <Kangoo> Point based could be good thing concidering the amount of plans... 17:43:27 <Ammler> Mark said no bananas grfs 17:43:30 <[alt]buster> !password 17:43:30 <PublicServer> [alt]buster: harked 17:43:37 <hylje> my problem is that my openttd assets are omg old 17:43:38 <PublicServer> *** combuster joined the game 17:43:41 <Xaroth> !tell hylje about !dl autottd 17:43:41 <PublicServer> hylje: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/AutoTTD 17:43:56 <hylje> i just svn up'd openttd 17:44:02 <Xaroth> ah 17:44:03 <Xaroth> linux 17:44:05 * Xaroth shudders 17:44:23 <Ammler> hylje: autostart 17:44:34 <Ammler> then you have also the nice patchpack :-) 17:45:28 <Booth> i love these they are so cool > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penrose_triangle 17:45:29 <Webster> Title: Penrose triangle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) 17:45:34 <Ammler> well you can apply it also self: https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/clientpatches/repository/changes/client_patches.diff 17:46:25 <PublicServer> <Mark> let's stop planning? 17:46:34 <PublicServer> <Mark> we got a bit of everything already :P 17:47:49 <Booth> my plan it to make a penrose triangle 17:48:40 <Mark> !rcon kick 48 17:48:41 <PublicServer> Mark: *** dangerDAN_ has left the game (kicked by server) 17:48:45 <Mark> really, stop it 17:48:58 <hylje> !password 17:48:58 <PublicServer> hylje: harked 17:49:07 <dangerdan> im playing with the land not messing around with anyones plans :( 17:49:07 <PublicServer> *** Player joined the game 17:49:40 <PublicServer> <Player> why so flat 17:49:41 *** [com]buster has quit IRC 17:49:41 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 17:49:45 <PublicServer> *** Player has changed his/her name to hylje 17:49:45 <tneo> and we have a player! 17:49:48 <tneo> :P 17:50:19 <Ammler> I vote for hylje plan 17:50:29 <PublicServer> *** dangerDAN_ joined the game 17:50:32 <PublicServer> *** combuster has left the game (leaving) 17:50:39 <[com]buster> i'm off 17:50:43 <Mark> cya 17:50:44 <[com]buster> hope you like my plan 17:50:52 <Ammler> [bye]buster 17:51:06 <Booth> i vote for penroses triangle 17:51:56 <PublicServer> *** AmmIer joined the game 17:52:00 <PublicServer> <hylje> nice MM 17:52:07 <PublicServer> <AmmIer> omg, what a voting table 17:53:09 <PublicServer> <AmmIer> Mark has too many signs for me :-) 17:53:12 <PublicServer> <hylje> how about that good old chaos 17:53:40 <Xaroth> !password 17:53:40 <PublicServer> Xaroth: trophy 17:53:48 <PublicServer> *** Xaroth joined the game 17:54:48 <Booth> !password 17:54:48 <PublicServer> Booth: trophy 17:55:37 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 17:56:10 <PublicServer> *** Xaroth has joined company #1 17:56:20 <PublicServer> <AmmIer> hylje: the voting table is full 17:56:28 <PublicServer> <hylje> nooooo 17:56:29 <PublicServer> <AmmIer> no column for you anymore 17:56:35 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> lol 17:57:01 <PublicServer> *** Mark has left the game (leaving) 17:57:26 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> who put a train on my plan? 17:58:40 <Mark> !players 17:58:41 <PublicServer> Mark: Client 43 is ZS, a spectator 17:58:42 <PublicServer> Mark: Client 57 (Orange) is Chris Booth, in company 1 (OTTDC (again)) 17:58:42 <PublicServer> Mark: Client 52 (Orange) is hylje, in company 1 (OTTDC (again)) 17:58:42 <PublicServer> Mark: Client 54 (Orange) is dangerDAN_, in company 1 (OTTDC (again)) 17:58:42 <PublicServer> Mark: Client 39 (Orange) is Kangoo, in company 1 (OTTDC (again)) 17:58:42 <PublicServer> Mark: Client 55 (Orange) is AmmIer, in company 1 (OTTDC (again)) 17:58:42 <PublicServer> Mark: Client 41 (Orange) is ChaseMonkey, in company 1 (OTTDC (again)) 17:58:44 <PublicServer> Mark: Client 27 (Orange) is Nichevo, in company 1 (OTTDC (again)) 17:58:44 <PublicServer> Mark: Client 29 is mensi, a spectator 17:58:46 <PublicServer> Mark: Client 56 (Orange) is Xaroth, in company 1 (OTTDC (again)) 17:58:56 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> SRNW is horrible it never works 17:59:02 <Mark> ? 17:59:08 <Mark> it worked the one time we tried it 17:59:09 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> just end up with massive pickup stions 17:59:27 <Mark> problem being? 17:59:28 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> we ended up with pickup stations so huge 17:59:40 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> waste of space 17:59:45 <Mark> right.. 17:59:52 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and goods get wasted 17:59:59 <Mark> bullshit 18:00:00 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> rating are low 18:00:07 <PublicServer> <hylje> srnw? 18:00:17 <Mark> in game 121 we had the most effective network ever 18:00:18 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> self regulating networks 18:00:21 <KenjiE20> define: srnw 18:00:21 <Webster> Self-regulating Network, see: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/SRNW 18:00:30 * SmatZ like that SRNW game 18:00:43 <PublicServer> *** Nichevo has left the game (connection lost) 18:00:43 <PublicServer> *** hylje has left the game (connection lost) 18:00:43 <PublicServer> *** dangerDAN_ has left the game (connection lost) 18:00:43 <PublicServer> *** AmmIer has left the game (connection lost) 18:00:43 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (connection lost) 18:00:44 <PublicServer> *** ZS has left the game (connection lost) 18:00:44 <PublicServer> *** mensi has left the game (connection lost) 18:00:46 <PublicServer> *** Xaroth has left the game (connection lost) 18:00:46 <PublicServer> *** ChaseMonkey has left the game (connection lost) 18:00:48 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 18:00:48 <PublicServer> *** Kangoo has left the game (connection lost) 18:00:58 <Booth> lol 18:01:08 <Booth> mass loss of connections 18:01:15 <Xaroth> something went BOOM 18:01:16 <Ammler> SmatZ: killed us all 18:01:20 <dangerdan> :S 18:01:21 <hylje> !password 18:01:21 <PublicServer> hylje: trophy 18:01:29 <PublicServer> *** hylje joined the game 18:01:30 <Booth> dinner time anyway 18:01:39 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 18:01:40 <PublicServer> *** dangerDAN_ joined the game 18:01:40 <Booth> mensi get my vote 18:01:57 <PublicServer> *** ZS joined the game 18:03:01 <SmatZ> :-P 18:03:28 <Ammler> !rcon magic_bulldozer 18:03:28 <PublicServer> Ammler: ERROR: command or variable not found 18:03:30 *** Yexo_ is now known as Yexo 18:03:53 <SmatZ> unpatched? :( 18:06:15 <Ammler> I lost that patch somehow :-) 18:06:21 <Ammler> bb is there 18:06:28 <SmatZ> :) 18:08:34 *** `Fuco`` has joined #openttdcoop 18:08:34 *** Fuco has quit IRC 18:09:20 <ODM> have you tried looking where you last left it? 18:12:51 <mensi> !password 18:12:51 <PublicServer> mensi: shucks 18:13:03 <PublicServer> *** mensi joined the game 18:13:36 <PublicServer> *** Nichevo joined the game 18:13:39 <PublicServer> *** mensi has joined spectators 18:14:20 <Ammler> ODM: found it :P 18:14:24 <ODM> hehe woo! 18:15:37 *** Fuco has joined #openttdcoop 18:16:24 <mensi> hmm Mark suggested the same plan once already right? 18:16:31 <mensi> or am I having a massive deja vu 18:16:32 <Mark> twice even 18:16:35 <Mark> but who cares 18:16:50 <hylje> heh 18:16:52 <Mark> i still think it has potential :P 18:17:25 <mensi> hmm 18:17:53 <Mark> !password 18:17:53 <PublicServer> Mark: shucks 18:18:06 <PublicServer> *** Mark joined the game 18:18:13 *** Fuco has quit IRC 18:19:27 *** Fuco has joined #openttdcoop 18:21:24 *** Fuco has quit IRC 18:21:50 *** Fuco has joined #openttdcoop 18:21:52 <PublicServer> *** Mark has joined spectators 18:22:05 *** `Fuco`` has quit IRC 18:23:36 *** Nickman87 has joined #openttdcoop 18:24:23 <PublicServer> *** hylje has joined spectators 18:25:22 <PublicServer> *** mensi has joined company #1 18:31:13 <Nickman87> !players 18:31:14 <PublicServer> Nickman87: Client 60 is hylje, a spectator 18:31:14 <PublicServer> Nickman87: Client 61 is ZS, a spectator 18:31:15 <PublicServer> Nickman87: Client 63 (Orange) is dangerDAN_, in company 1 (OTTDC (again)) 18:31:15 <PublicServer> Nickman87: Client 65 (Orange) is mensi, in company 1 (OTTDC (again)) 18:31:15 <PublicServer> Nickman87: Client 67 (Orange) is Nichevo, in company 1 (OTTDC (again)) 18:31:16 <PublicServer> Nickman87: Client 69 is Mark, a spectator 18:31:24 <Nickman87> lots of people :) 18:32:46 <SmatZ> 3 spectators :) 18:36:03 <PublicServer> *** mensi has left the game (leaving) 18:41:17 *** satyap has joined #openttdcoop 18:41:17 *** Fuco has quit IRC 18:41:24 <satyap> !password 18:41:25 <PublicServer> satyap: qualms 18:41:27 *** Fuco has joined #openttdcoop 18:41:43 <PublicServer> *** dangerDAN_ has left the game (leaving) 18:41:44 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 18:42:11 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 18:42:12 <PublicServer> *** satyap joined the game 18:42:56 <PublicServer> *** dangerDAN_ joined the game 18:45:08 <satyap> can i vote now? 18:45:15 *** Fuco has quit IRC 18:45:29 <PublicServer> <satyap> pm's is WIP, so i'll wait i guess 18:45:42 *** Fuco has joined #openttdcoop 18:46:24 <Ammler> :-( 18:46:33 <Ammler> pm isn't around anymore 18:46:45 <satyap> oh. shall we wait? 18:47:46 <PublicServer> *** hylje has left the game (leaving) 18:48:19 <PublicServer> <satyap> what the... someone already built planes and buses? MMs? 18:48:26 <Ammler> ask hylje 18:48:42 <dangerdan> ye they're mms 18:48:53 <PublicServer> <satyap> oh alrighty then 18:48:57 *** Fuco has quit IRC 18:49:10 <Ammler> cheater vehicels ;-) 18:49:25 *** Fuco has joined #openttdcoop 18:49:29 *** HDIEagle has joined #openttdcoop 18:49:37 <satyap> ought to make a patch to set starting money, if that optin isn't there already 18:49:50 <HDIEagle> !players 18:49:51 <PublicServer> HDIEagle: Client 61 is ZS, a spectator 18:49:52 <PublicServer> HDIEagle: Client 71 (Orange) is satyap, in company 1 (OTTDC (again)) 18:49:52 <PublicServer> HDIEagle: Client 73 (Orange) is dangerDAN_, in company 1 (OTTDC (again)) 18:49:52 <PublicServer> HDIEagle: Client 67 (Orange) is Nichevo, in company 1 (OTTDC (again)) 18:49:52 <PublicServer> HDIEagle: Client 69 is Mark, a spectator 18:49:53 <satyap> or a patch to make everything cost zero 18:49:53 <HDIEagle> !fish 18:49:53 <PublicServer> HDIEagle: Sorry, only have fish from yesterday! come back tomorrow for today's fish! 18:50:07 <Xaroth> !fish 18:50:07 <PublicServer> Xaroth: Why dont you go outside, play hide and fish something yourself for a day! 18:50:08 <HDIEagle> satyap: we have much more important matters at hand, here 18:50:13 <Xaroth> bah 18:50:14 <Xaroth> !fish 18:50:14 <PublicServer> Xaroth: Why dont you go outside, play hide and fish something yourself for a day! 18:50:21 <Xaroth> bot's bitchy today 18:50:37 <HDIEagle> like, today's fish, what the FRO is it? 18:50:38 <satyap> much more important? such as? 18:50:40 <Ammler> !fish 18:50:40 <PublicServer> Ammler: Why dont you go outside, play hide and fish something yourself for a day! 18:50:42 <satyap> ah 18:50:54 <ODM> Xaroth, i think your wiki autottd page needs a bit of a description what it is:) 18:50:57 <Ammler> indeed, he is. 18:51:05 <Xaroth> ODM: i need a time machine tbqfh 18:51:10 * satyap goes back to his stupid form he's building 18:51:18 <HDIEagle> !password 18:51:18 <PublicServer> HDIEagle: flaunt 18:51:19 <ODM> no?:P 18:51:28 <PublicServer> *** HD1Eagle joined the game 18:52:03 <Ammler> HDIEagle: did you see, we reverted your junction from the junctionary... 18:52:35 <HDIEagle> i found the junctionary to be quite lacking 18:52:47 <HDIEagle> bleh 18:52:57 <Ammler> the junctions there need to be from coop games. 18:53:13 <Ammler> so you would first need to build it, then you can publish it there. 18:53:13 <KenjiE20> "The Junctionary is a collection of important and clever constructions we have developed during our games." 18:53:31 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> i actually did build one very similar to that 18:53:48 <PublicServer> * satyap considers sticking in a boat into this game's MM 18:53:58 <Ammler> HDIEagle: on a coop game? 18:53:59 <PublicServer> <satyap> i'd rather not be lynched, so no. 18:54:07 * KenjiE20 hide the noose 18:54:26 <HDIEagle> http://1186250293:8082/OpenTTDCoop, 2179-08-03.png 18:54:32 <HDIEagle> yeppers 18:54:41 <KenjiE20> 403 18:54:42 <HDIEagle> except cl3 18:54:52 <HDIEagle> it didn't parse the whole link 18:54:56 <HDIEagle> http://1186250293:8082/OpenTTDCoop,%202179-08-03.png 18:55:03 <Ammler> mennu SmatZ, that would be really worth a fix ;-) 18:55:11 <KenjiE20> ah, silly regexp 18:55:14 <HDIEagle> %20 ftw 18:55:33 <SmatZ> Ammler: what happened? 18:55:56 <SmatZ> @seen narc 18:55:56 <Webster> SmatZ: narc was last seen in #openttdcoop 1 week, 2 days, 22 hours, 38 minutes, and 54 seconds ago: <narc> Sorry about that. 18:55:56 <Ammler> openttd saves screenshots with very ugly names 18:56:02 <SmatZ> haha :) 18:56:09 <narc> Hah. 18:56:12 <KenjiE20> lol 18:56:16 <SmatZ> hello narc! :) 18:56:22 <KenjiE20> was wondering how long that would take 18:56:22 <narc> Oi-oi, SmatZie! 18:56:25 <SmatZ> ;-) 18:56:32 <ODM> woo smatz 18:56:34 <ODM> ohno narc lives 18:56:39 <SmatZ> oh that's ODM! :) 18:56:41 * ODM dies 18:56:43 <narc> Ohnoes! 18:56:44 <SmatZ> oh no :( 18:56:48 <narc> Hi, guys. 18:56:48 <KenjiE20> yay 18:56:59 <narc> How goes it? 18:56:59 <HDIEagle> why don't we name the company with the game name so screenshots are easier to tie to games 18:57:06 <ODM> long time no see 18:57:18 <HDIEagle> !wiki 18:57:18 <PublicServer> HDIEagle: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Main_Page 18:57:29 <SmatZ> Ammler: I think it can be changed if you change some string in the lang file 18:57:30 <satyap> it's what i do with my single-player games 18:57:42 <narc> ODM: 'strue, it has been. 18:57:59 <narc> Got side-tracked again. 18:58:03 <ODM> aaaw:( 18:58:06 <ODM> cant hurt t say hi:) 18:58:14 <KenjiE20> heh, still in ottd off-cycle? 18:58:17 <ODM> we dont kill 18:58:19 <ODM> on weekdays 18:58:29 *** Fuco has quit IRC 18:58:35 <hylje> !password 18:58:35 <PublicServer> hylje: flaunt 18:58:37 <narc> KenjiE20: For the moment, aye. No worries, though, cycle's gonna turn around sooner or later. 18:58:44 <PublicServer> *** hylje joined the game 18:58:44 <KenjiE20> heh, yup 18:59:00 <HDIEagle> ah, it was game 67 http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/PublicServer:Archive_-_Games_61_-_70#gameid_67 18:59:04 <narc> ODM: Tough titty if it did, to quote a Monty Python sketch. 18:59:18 <narc> :) 18:59:28 <ODM> style 18:59:33 <Ammler> !users 18:59:33 <PublicServer> Ammler: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Community:Members 18:59:58 <PublicServer> *** hylje has joined spectators 19:02:51 <HDIEagle> those stations weren't crawled manually, were they? 19:03:51 <satyap> how do you crawl stations non-manually? 19:03:54 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop 19:03:57 <ODM> heh 19:03:59 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> script? 19:04:00 <KenjiE20> crawl? 19:04:04 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> programmed ram hack? 19:04:06 <ODM> he means walked i think 19:04:07 <satyap> you can script ottd now?? 19:04:12 <PeterT> !playercount 19:04:13 <PublicServer> PeterT: Number of players: 7 19:04:16 <PeterT> !players 19:04:17 <KenjiE20> define: stationwalk 19:04:17 <Webster> The act of creating a station in two spots by adding and removing connecting sections, see: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Stationwalk 19:04:18 <PublicServer> PeterT: Client 75 (Orange) is HD1Eagle, in company 1 (OTTDC (again)) 19:04:18 <PublicServer> PeterT: Client 61 is ZS, a spectator 19:04:18 <PublicServer> PeterT: Client 71 (Orange) is satyap, in company 1 (OTTDC (again)) 19:04:18 <PublicServer> PeterT: Client 73 (Orange) is dangerDAN_, in company 1 (OTTDC (again)) 19:04:18 <PublicServer> PeterT: Client 67 (Orange) is Nichevo, in company 1 (OTTDC (again)) 19:04:19 <PeterT> new map? 19:04:20 <PublicServer> PeterT: Client 69 is Mark, a spectator 19:04:20 <PublicServer> PeterT: Client 77 is hylje, a spectator 19:04:30 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> already? 19:04:33 <Xaroth> [satyap]: how do you crawl stations non-manually? << distant-join. 19:04:35 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> we just started this one 19:04:46 <PeterT> Xaroth: Ctrl + Station 19:04:53 <satyap> distant join. not familiar with that. i'll look up 19:05:01 <satyap> define: distant join 19:05:06 <KenjiE20> one word 19:05:09 <PeterT> !password 19:05:09 <PublicServer> PeterT: flaunt 19:05:12 <satyap> found it 19:05:13 <KenjiE20> same page as station walk 19:05:18 <Xaroth> PeterT: I know what it is 19:05:18 <ODM> thats not one word 19:05:21 <PublicServer> *** Peter joined the game 19:05:21 <Xaroth> it was an answer, not a question 19:05:27 <PublicServer> <Peter> oh sorry man 19:05:40 <PublicServer> <Peter> ok 19:05:43 <PublicServer> <Peter> so are we voting? 19:05:53 <KenjiE20> is there a vote board? 19:05:57 <HDIEagle> yeppers 19:06:01 <KenjiE20> does a bear .. in the woods? 19:06:04 <PublicServer> <hylje> there's a terribly elaborate vote board 19:06:07 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> no, but an elipsis does 19:06:16 <PublicServer> <Peter> ok, i see that nobody has voted 19:06:19 * satyap is enlightened 19:06:27 <ODM> KenjiE20, that depends on season 19:06:29 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> are we voting against or for 19:06:32 <KenjiE20> lol 19:06:41 <KenjiE20> fine.. 19:06:43 <ODM> during their wintersleep they dont... natural buttplug and all 19:06:47 <KenjiE20> Is the space pope reptilian? 19:06:49 <PublicServer> <hylje> don't forget the nonstandard vote for my nonstandard plan 19:06:50 <PublicServer> <Peter> on mensi's plan, what does RRR mean 19:07:00 <PublicServer> <hylje> right right right 19:07:02 <satyap> i think it means one-way ML 19:07:03 <KenjiE20> @rr 19:07:03 <Webster> LL / RR or variations are indicating directions on a main- or sideline 19:07:11 <PublicServer> <Peter> oh 19:07:25 <satyap> my mountain dew is orange :( 19:07:34 <hylje> someone replaced it with fanta 19:07:46 <KenjiE20> that's not a soft drink in there 19:08:01 * satyap agrees with KenjiE20 for the moment 19:08:21 <ODM> does lizard poison spock? 19:08:24 <HDIEagle> !define srnw 19:08:27 * satyap throws out www.thesatya.com/openttd.html and awaits the ridicule 19:08:40 <KenjiE20> ! is the PS key 19:08:40 <satyap> i would think lizard would poison spock 19:08:52 <KenjiE20> Webster's is @ 19:08:56 <ODM> you happen to be right 19:09:09 <satyap> that's a question for wolfram|alpha 19:09:10 <ODM> and paper disproves spock! 19:09:11 <PublicServer> *** Peter has left the game (leaving) 19:09:22 <satyap> ah 19:09:40 <satyap> http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Srnw 19:09:49 <satyap> needs more meat. i'd add it if i knew more, but i don't 19:10:14 <HDIEagle> define: srnw 19:10:14 <Webster> Self-regulating Network, see: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/SRNW 19:10:18 <HDIEagle> oh 19:10:20 <KenjiE20> <satyap> needs more meat. <--- ohhh yyyeeeeeaaahhh? 19:10:28 <satyap> heh 19:10:34 <satyap> Srnw != SRNW, apparently 19:10:53 <HDIEagle> srnw's are a bit too...controlled, eh? 19:11:17 <KenjiE20> hmm 19:11:18 <Kangoo> !password 19:11:18 <PublicServer> Kangoo: cameos 19:11:27 <KenjiE20> no idea why Srnw isn't a redirect 19:11:30 <PublicServer> *** Kangoo joined the game 19:11:38 <KenjiE20> seems like it should be 19:12:06 *** Nickman87 has quit IRC 19:12:17 <Mark> KenjiE20: i only started on the srnw page today :P 19:12:51 <Mark> i'm hoping to get some nice ideas from this game 19:13:07 <PublicServer> <Mark> so, shall we start voting? 19:13:12 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> wait 19:13:14 <PublicServer> *** Peter joined the game 19:13:18 <KenjiE20> Srnw and SRNW should probably both point at the full self reg. page 19:13:24 <Mark> yeah true 19:13:25 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> how many times have we built mls that run primarily diagonally? 19:13:33 <PublicServer> <Mark> once 19:13:36 <PublicServer> <Mark> was ugly 19:13:49 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> ^_^ 19:14:04 <PublicServer> *** Mark has joined company #1 19:14:14 * satyap remembers the diagonal ML 19:14:26 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> what game was that 19:14:36 <PublicServer> <Mark> some 110-ish i think 19:14:57 <Mark> @stage Voting 19:14:57 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #147 (r16621) | STAGE: Voting | www.openttdcoop.org | Use !help for IRC-commands | Cargo Destinations at #openttdcoop.dev | Client record: 24 | Screenshots: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/img/" 19:15:18 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> they all look sooooooo....central hubbishly 19:15:27 <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah 19:15:37 <PublicServer> <Mark> i prefer spreading it 19:15:44 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> i want an h pattern with a 5x5 interlink 19:15:58 <PublicServer> <hylje> if you like spreading my not-chaos is ideal 19:16:17 <PublicServer> <Mark> if you make an H you might aswell have a hub 19:16:26 <PublicServer> <Mark> as you're forcing all traffic to one point anyway 19:16:29 <PublicServer> <hylje> H is a X with a double T 19:17:05 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> then how about a Y 19:17:09 <Webster> Latest update from blog: Checking the archive & userpages <http://www.openttdcoop.org/blog/2009/06/25/checking-the-archive-userpages/> 19:17:31 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> a T in disguise 19:18:21 <PublicServer> *** satyap has left the game (leaving) 19:18:57 <dangerdan> is it highest number for fav layout? 19:19:03 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> yes 19:20:37 <satyap> PSG97 was the diagonal ML 19:20:40 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> gleeb here? 19:20:47 * satyap notes his name lacking from the ex-suspects list 19:20:57 <PublicServer> <hylje> not notable enough! 19:21:13 <HDIEagle> i come here every 237 games, why aren't i on the list? 19:21:17 <HDIEagle> :P 19:21:36 <hylje> we haven't had 237 games yet 19:21:36 <KenjiE20> see previous answer 19:21:38 <satyap> sheesh, no need to make fun 19:21:49 <satyap> !password 19:21:49 <PublicServer> satyap: downed 19:21:56 <hylje> NO FUN ALLOWED 19:21:58 <PublicServer> *** satyap joined the game 19:22:25 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> gleebs plan seems a little...1500 trains required-y 19:22:31 <PublicServer> *** ChaseMonkey joined the game 19:22:40 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> wait, this a small map 19:23:09 <PublicServer> <Mark> 1500 trains on a 512^2 is perfectly doable 19:23:42 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> except for the 1024 train cap which is possibly implemented on a game by game basis but i'm not sure if it is? 19:23:51 <PublicServer> <Mark> it is 19:24:04 <PublicServer> <Mark> that limit was compeletely random 19:24:04 <dangerdan> !players 19:24:06 <PublicServer> dangerdan: Client 75 (Orange) is HD1Eagle, in company 1 (OTTDC (again)) 19:24:06 <PublicServer> dangerdan: Client 88 (Orange) is ChaseMonkey, in company 1 (OTTDC (again)) 19:24:06 <PublicServer> dangerdan: Client 61 is ZS, a spectator 19:24:06 <PublicServer> dangerdan: Client 86 (Orange) is satyap, in company 1 (OTTDC (again)) 19:24:06 <PublicServer> dangerdan: Client 73 (Orange) is dangerDAN_, in company 1 (OTTDC (again)) 19:24:08 <PublicServer> dangerdan: Client 67 (Orange) is Nichevo, in company 1 (OTTDC (again)) 19:24:08 <PublicServer> dangerdan: Client 69 (Orange) is Mark, in company 1 (OTTDC (again)) 19:24:10 <PublicServer> dangerdan: Client 77 is hylje, a spectator 19:24:10 <PublicServer> dangerdan: Client 82 (Orange) is Kangoo, in company 1 (OTTDC (again)) 19:24:12 <PublicServer> dangerdan: Client 84 (Orange) is Peter, in company 1 (OTTDC (again)) 19:24:12 <Mark> !trains 800 19:24:12 <PublicServer> *** Mark has set max_trains to 800 19:24:16 <Mark> !trains 1233 19:24:16 <PublicServer> *** Mark has set max_trains to 1233 19:24:18 <Mark> !trains 17 19:24:18 <PublicServer> *** Mark has set max_trains to 17 19:24:23 <Mark> !trains 500 19:24:23 <PublicServer> *** Mark has set max_trains to 500 19:24:26 <hylje> completely arbitrary 19:24:30 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> 1024 is not random, how dare you 19:24:38 <Xaroth> 2^10? 19:24:40 <narc> 1024 is a perfectly round number. 19:24:43 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> yes 19:24:45 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> :3 19:25:27 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> also: don't take me seriously (no one ever seems to anyway :( 19:26:56 <PublicServer> *** ZS has joined company #1 19:27:06 <PublicServer> <Peter> satyap? why do you have 3 5s? 19:27:23 <PublicServer> <satyap> because i didn't realise what i was donig 19:27:27 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> he's deciding 19:27:33 <PublicServer> <Peter> oh 19:28:27 <satyap> there, is that all better? 19:28:34 <PublicServer> <Peter> :) yes 19:30:16 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> i've a hunch everyone likes srnws 19:30:38 <PublicServer> *** hylje has joined company #1 19:30:40 <PublicServer> <Peter> wait, how do i use that command? 19:30:42 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> or, as i will pronounce them over the in-game voice chat, snrawwwwws 19:30:43 <PublicServer> *** Peter has joined spectators 19:30:43 <PublicServer> *** Peter has left the game (wrong company-id in DoCommand) 19:31:07 <PeterT> !password 19:31:07 <PublicServer> PeterT: downed 19:31:19 <PublicServer> *** Peter joined the game 19:31:30 <PeterT> !playercount 19:31:30 <PublicServer> PeterT: Number of players: 10 19:31:44 <PublicServer> <Peter> whats the most amount of people in one openttd server game? 19:31:50 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> how do you pronounce "tneo"? 19:31:56 <Mark> you dont 19:32:05 <satyap> tee-neo, i always thought 19:32:09 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> so i call him " " 19:32:14 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> and he will respond? 19:32:21 <satyap> or rather, "tneo" 19:32:36 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> the e is silent 19:32:54 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> i've decided that the e is silent 19:33:02 <PublicServer> <Peter> i thought it was " te....nee.....o" 19:33:11 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> "no" is one syllable 19:33:20 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> :3 19:33:53 <PublicServer> <Peter> so like, TEE NO 19:34:00 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> no 19:34:03 * satyap drinks dew, and throws this darn word doc into the trash 19:34:03 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> just no 19:34:16 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> you walked right into that one, peter 19:34:21 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> ^_^ 19:34:50 <PublicServer> <Peter> :? 19:35:02 <HDIEagle> that was the joke 19:35:04 <HDIEagle> "no" 19:35:06 <HDIEagle> just "no" 19:35:08 <HDIEagle> or no 19:35:10 <HDIEagle> just no 19:35:19 <HDIEagle> get i 19:35:21 <HDIEagle> t? :3 19:35:49 <PublicServer> <Peter> where is hyje's plan? 19:35:58 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> it consists soley of signs 19:36:01 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> use the sign list 19:36:14 <PublicServer> <hylje> right beside network plans sign 19:36:21 <PublicServer> <hylje> or jump to plan/hylje 19:36:23 <PublicServer> <Peter> oh 19:36:32 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> isn't this voting scheme flawed somehow? 19:36:41 <PublicServer> <Peter> like someone changing your votes? 19:36:42 <PublicServer> <Peter> yes 19:36:43 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> or do you do eliminate minimum iteratively? 19:36:53 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> i wasn't questioning the honor system 19:37:05 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> i was just pointing at the faults of relying on a highly pluraltive system 19:37:22 <PublicServer> <hylje> this one is highly elaborate 19:37:23 <PublicServer> <Mark> always open for suggestions 19:37:28 <satyap> iow, you think we might end up with a tie 19:37:31 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> i say tally up 19:37:32 <PublicServer> <hylje> in the past a simple one name one vote has been enough 19:37:35 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> then eliminate lowest point 19:37:41 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> then bump all the votes 19:37:45 <PublicServer> <Mark> we did that 19:37:46 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> and re-tally 19:37:49 <PublicServer> <Mark> took too much time 19:37:58 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> use microsoft excel 19:38:16 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> normalize point data 19:38:18 <satyap> i voted "88" instead of "8" to avoid errors </dumbassery> 19:38:41 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> those pipelines are going to take a lot of time to delete 19:38:51 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> do we have a shortcut for deleting signs? 19:39:04 <narc> Yah, Ctrl+click the sign. 19:39:04 <PublicServer> <Mark> ctrl-click 19:39:13 <PublicServer> <Mark> it's the narc :) 19:39:35 <PublicServer> <Peter> gotta go 19:39:36 <narc> So it is. Oi-oi, Mark! 19:39:36 <PublicServer> <Peter> cya 19:39:38 <PublicServer> *** Peter has left the game (leaving) 19:39:44 *** PeterT has quit IRC 19:39:54 <narc> !password 19:39:54 <PublicServer> narc: lisped 19:40:02 <PublicServer> *** Narc joined the game 19:40:07 <PublicServer> <Narc> Holy cattle. 19:41:05 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> i think someone mis-calculated their word's length 19:41:53 <PublicServer> <hylje> mark you voted yourself for 8 19:41:55 <PublicServer> <hylje> pfft 19:42:01 <Mark> of course :P 19:42:03 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> why the hell not 19:43:07 <satyap> used to be you couldn't vote for yourself 19:43:13 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> pfffrt 19:43:13 <satyap> but now, with this ranking system.... 19:43:29 <PublicServer> <satyap> i think it's needed 19:43:48 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> someone can't add 19:45:17 <Booth> have i lost yet? 19:45:20 <PublicServer> <Mark> what was wrong, then? 19:45:31 <HDIEagle> mensi = 29 19:45:33 <HDIEagle> not 30 19:45:33 <satyap> apparently, you won, Booth 19:45:43 <PublicServer> <Mark> we neeh way more votes 19:45:49 <HDIEagle> let's take plurality effect in to account 19:45:51 <satyap> wait where's my plan 19:45:56 <satyap> oh right i didn't make one 19:45:59 <satyap> !trout 19:46:09 <hylje> !fish 19:46:09 <PublicServer> hylje: Today's fish is smoked eel on toast with horseradish cream. 19:46:09 <Ammler> satyap: you know RoR ? 19:46:14 <satyap> Ammler: i do indeed 19:46:27 <Ammler> he, like to help with DevZone? 19:46:34 <Ammler> Redmine 19:46:35 <satyap> ohboyohboyohboy 19:46:37 <satyap> i mean, er, sure 19:46:39 <Ammler> hehe 19:46:50 <satyap> and now i plummet again by asking, what's Redmine 19:46:52 * satyap googles 19:47:10 <Ammler> https://dev.openttdcoop.org 19:47:12 <PublicServer> <satyap> isee 19:47:34 <PublicServer> * satyap peers 19:47:58 <Xaroth> redmine is a project management system 19:48:45 <narc> Heh, was just looking at the "list of companies or projects using Redmine". It occured to me it was a long list of names I'd never heard of. 19:48:53 * satyap wonders where Ruby on Rails fits in 19:49:07 <narc> Redmine's written in RoR, apparently. 19:49:34 <PublicServer> <satyap> ah, i see 19:49:56 <PublicServer> *** Narc has left the game (leaving) 19:50:00 <PublicServer> <satyap> well, i get to suck at Rails at work, so yeah. what do you need? 19:50:05 *** Farden has joined #openttdcoop 19:50:07 <narc> 8 plans make my brain hurt. 19:50:07 <Farden> !playercount 19:50:07 <PublicServer> Farden: Number of players: 9 19:50:10 <Farden> !password 19:50:10 <PublicServer> Farden: lisped 19:50:12 *** Radicalimero has joined #openttdcoop 19:50:15 <PublicServer> *** Mark has joined spectators 19:50:26 <Radicalimero> !download win32 19:50:27 <PublicServer> Radicalimero: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r16621/openttd-trunk-r16621-windows-win32.zip 19:50:29 <Xaroth> yeh 19:50:40 * Xaroth doesn't like RoR. 19:50:40 <PublicServer> *** Farden joined the game 19:50:40 <PublicServer> <Farden> hi there! 19:50:43 <Radicalimero> !password 19:50:43 <PublicServer> Radicalimero: arable 19:50:54 <PublicServer> <Farden> wow, lot's of people tonight 19:51:32 <Ammler> Xaroth: actually it was way easier to install then any Python app 19:51:48 * Xaroth doesn't like python for webapps either 19:51:50 * satyap apt-gets it, usually 19:51:51 <Ammler> easy_install just sucks. 19:52:01 <satyap> what do you prefer, Xaroth? 19:52:13 <Xaroth> i work mostly with php 19:52:14 <Booth> !password 19:52:14 <PublicServer> Booth: arable 19:52:20 <hylje> burn 19:52:20 <Ammler> ruby and gems rocks :-) 19:52:21 <hylje> ! 19:52:30 <Xaroth> I spot a php-hatter 19:52:40 <hylje> i do not have a php hat 19:52:45 <narc> I do. 19:52:46 <satyap> haaaaaaahhahaha 19:52:47 <valhallasw> I'm sorry Xaroth, did you mean the language where ++'z' == 'aa' but where 'z' > 'aa'? 19:52:48 <narc> And a Perl hat. 19:52:49 * satyap falls down 19:53:07 * satyap has issues with php besides what valhallasw said 19:53:13 <Xaroth> valhallasw: shush you also claimed that distupgrading ubuntu took a reinstall :P 19:53:14 <satyap> i have a perl hat 19:53:14 <narc> Huh. 19:53:23 <valhallasw> Xaroth: erm, no? 19:53:23 <satyap> i had a C hat somewhere but i think it was free()d 19:53:30 <Xaroth> you didn't? hm, somebody here did 19:53:37 <narc> I never found a reason to increment a string (the f...?) 19:53:52 <satyap> sometimes it's better to nuke and pave. sometimes. 19:53:54 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 19:53:59 <PublicServer> *** Mark has joined company #1 19:54:12 <Xaroth> and I do agree with the somewhat toooooo easy handling of variables 19:54:14 <satyap> you can increment a string. the result is sometimes a syntax error, but whatever :) 19:54:14 <narc> Oh, I had the lovely opportunity to dist-upgrade from intrepid to jaunty and turned out something unusable. 19:54:20 <Xaroth> I prefer the C# style for that 19:54:36 <narc> In that, it booted just fine, got to desktop, and then rebooted. Ad infinitum. 19:54:48 * satyap thinks, in C, char str[]="hello"; str++; printf("%s", str); results in "ello" 19:54:54 <Xaroth> I upgraded 5 servers from 8.something to 9.04 .. no issues no crashes only a reboot or two 19:54:55 <valhallasw> satyap: correct 19:54:57 <narc> So, there, dist-upgrading ubuntu *does* sometimes take a reinstall. 19:55:02 <valhallasw> that's because str is a pointer ;) 19:55:06 <narc> Worked fine on other computers, tho. 19:55:12 <SmatZ> satyap: str++ will fail 19:55:13 <satyap> yes, pointer arithmetic. yay! 19:55:24 <Xaroth> *str++ innit? 19:55:24 <PublicServer> *** AmmIer joined the game 19:55:26 <narc> In C, there are no strings. Only arrays of char. 19:55:26 <valhallasw> oh, SmatZ is right 19:55:28 <satyap> SmatZ: but str is a pointer 19:55:35 <SmatZ> it's an array 19:55:36 * satyap breaks out the gcc 19:55:39 <narc> Or char*. 19:55:45 * Xaroth shrugs 19:55:46 <Xaroth> don't do C 19:55:52 * satyap could be an idiot, and SmatZ could be right 19:55:53 <valhallasw> an array is a non-mutable pointer, in some sorts :P 19:55:56 <PublicServer> <AmmIer> oh, hylje found a column _o 19:56:01 <SmatZ> :) 19:56:01 <PublicServer> <hylje> :> 19:56:02 <PublicServer> <AmmIer> :-o 19:56:03 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> after much iterations, i conclude that the point system is a solid voting system 19:56:07 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> err 19:56:10 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> much iteration 19:56:11 <valhallasw> so printf("%s", str+1) works 19:56:14 <valhallasw> but str++ does not 19:56:36 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> apart from the fact you can give your self points 19:56:36 <valhallasw> but arrays in C are quite useless :P 19:56:51 <valhallasw> as they are static 19:57:02 <valhallasw> or, well, fixed-length 19:57:26 <narc> Immutable? 19:57:26 <satyap> #include <stdio.h> 19:57:26 <satyap> int main(int arggc, char **argv) { 19:57:26 <satyap> char str[]="hello"; 19:57:27 <satyap> printf("%s\n", str); 19:57:27 <satyap> str++; 19:57:27 <satyap> printf("%s\n", str); 19:57:27 <satyap> return 0; 19:57:29 <satyap> } 19:57:34 <narc> Though I suppose not. 19:57:34 <satyap> t.c:5: error: lvalue required as increment operand 19:57:38 <satyap> so yes, smatz is right 19:57:44 <planetmaker> o/ 19:57:47 <satyap> sorry baout the spewage 19:57:50 <satyap> i should've pastied 19:57:52 <narc> Oi-oi, pm. 19:57:58 <PublicServer> *** Radicalimero joined the game 19:58:05 <planetmaker> many good ol' faces here :) 19:58:14 <narc> It's like coming home again. 19:58:17 <valhallasw> narc: immutable is the python term for a object that cannot be changed, but it doesnt say wether object++ works or not 19:58:20 <ODM> ey pm 19:58:20 <satyap> t.c:3: warning: ISO C forbids nested functions. what the who? 19:58:28 <narc> valhallasw: Not only python. 19:58:31 <valhallasw> integers are immutable, but 1++ returns 2 19:58:38 <valhallasw> probably not, no :P 19:58:47 <narc> And I did correctly state "Though I suppose not" afterwards. 19:58:49 <valhallasw> but I am only certain what it means in python 19:58:59 <PublicServer> *** planetm4ker joined the game 19:59:02 <satyap> char str* <-- grr 19:59:06 <narc> Means the same everywhere else. Immutable == cannot be changed. 19:59:06 <valhallasw> ans I confirmed your suspicion? :P 19:59:08 <HDIEagle> hi pm 19:59:12 <valhallasw> satyap: try char *str :P 19:59:13 <narc> Can always generate a new one, though. 19:59:14 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> wth a voting board is this? 19:59:15 <satyap> yes :) 19:59:30 <narc> 8 plans. Hurt my brain. 19:59:34 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> new voting PM 19:59:39 <HDIEagle> since when is the honor system a failed system? 19:59:40 <narc> Can I has a new brain, pls? 19:59:43 <PublicServer> <Farden> voting board updated 19:59:43 <satyap> char *str allows for str++, and works 19:59:47 <valhallasw> aye 19:59:55 <satyap> *str isn't quite the same as str[] 19:59:57 <HDIEagle> i think displaying the totals skes results 19:59:58 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> bad method to scale it linearly :) 20:00:01 <HDIEagle> skews* 20:00:05 <PublicServer> <Farden> for the moment, chris is the first 20:00:06 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> narc brain'R'us is currently close 20:00:07 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> better method is like formular 1 or so 20:00:10 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> or best 3 20:00:13 <PublicServer> <Farden> followed by Mark 20:00:19 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> so if you want a new brain you will have to wait 20:00:27 <PublicServer> <Farden> then we have combuster and memsi for the third place 20:00:28 <HDIEagle> planetmaker: i actually iterated through it by elimination in excel, and it worked.... 20:00:47 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> uh, HDIEagle? 20:00:55 <HDIEagle> in this scenario 20:00:57 <planetmaker> of course it can work 20:01:10 <planetmaker> I don't say that it doesn't give results. 20:01:17 <HDIEagle> and if it works once, its a good enough means to rule a country with, right? 20:01:17 <planetmaker> But there are better voting methods. 20:01:19 <PublicServer> *** ZS has left the game (leaving) 20:01:20 <HDIEagle> right? 20:01:32 <planetmaker> no :) 20:01:36 *** ZS has quit IRC 20:01:37 <HDIEagle> *coughcommunisumcough* 20:01:43 <PublicServer> <Farden> ^^ 20:01:50 <planetmaker> neither 20:01:52 <planetmaker> :) 20:02:01 <PublicServer> <AmmIer> he 20:02:03 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> communism would be saying PM wins all the time 20:02:07 <hylje> dictatorship 20:02:14 <ODM> we share the victory 20:02:15 <planetmaker> Hey, I actually went quite a bit to inform myself about voting methods and how to count them... 20:02:25 <planetmaker> vote != vote. 20:02:25 <HDIEagle> no, going into the streets and shouting "pm wins all the time" makes for a scene 20:02:27 <PublicServer> <Farden> actually in communism, you share defeat 20:02:30 <planetmaker> There are so may methods 20:02:31 <PublicServer> <Farden> not victory^^ 20:02:44 <planetmaker> Farden: the world hasn't seen anywhere communism. 20:02:46 <narc> In soviet russia, plans vote you? 20:02:55 <PublicServer> <Farden> china? russia? 20:02:58 <planetmaker> no 20:03:03 <PublicServer> <Farden> oh, no, I forget 20:03:08 <PublicServer> <Farden> communism is impossible 20:03:10 <planetmaker> it's only what they claimed it to be :) 20:03:12 <planetmaker> exactly 20:03:12 <HDIEagle> planetmaker: not even for 1 nanosecond? 20:03:35 <Booth> russia and china both had communist ideals 20:03:42 <Booth> but so do many countries 20:03:43 <planetmaker> humans are not altruistic to the general good as communism needs it 20:03:51 <PublicServer> <Farden> well, they started a revolution with this idea 20:03:52 <HDIEagle> can we not establish a technical communism by simply skewing the perception? 20:03:55 <PublicServer> <Farden> and then someone take it 20:03:58 <HDIEagle> argh, metaphysics suck 20:04:00 <PublicServer> <AmmIer> planetm4ker: finish your plan :P 20:04:00 <PublicServer> <Farden> and changed it into a dictatorship 20:04:22 <Booth> closest to communism you will get it the trains in openttd 20:04:23 <PublicServer> <Farden> communism would mean everyone has everything 20:04:34 <PublicServer> <Farden> but it's impossible : everyone is not the same 20:04:55 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> # 20:05:00 <PublicServer> <Farden> +1 20:05:13 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> there's a fine difference between "be same" and "have same rights" :) 20:05:15 <Booth> well if every one was a clone of the same person 20:05:16 <HDIEagle> what if some dictator wrote a legal docuoment proclaiming that from 5:41:02 to 5:41:02.000000001, everyone owns everything 20:05:21 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> so, yes, Farden :) 20:05:31 <PublicServer> <Farden> yeah but typically when you talk about communism 20:05:37 <HDIEagle> would that not be a communist regime for .000000001 seconds? 20:05:38 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> AmmIer: any proposals on how to treat goods? 20:05:42 <PublicServer> <AmmIer> possible to give 2 times say 4 and no 3 ? 20:05:43 <PublicServer> <Farden> people imagine all communists are the same 20:05:48 <PublicServer> <Farden> they have the same house 20:05:51 <PublicServer> <Farden> they eat the same thing 20:05:56 <PublicServer> <Farden> everything is the same for everyone 20:06:06 *** [com]buster has quit IRC 20:06:13 <HDIEagle> i ask myself one question: 20:06:30 *** [com]buster has joined #openttdcoop 20:06:30 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o [com]buster 20:06:51 <HDIEagle> can i walk down the street, say hello to one person, get punched in the face, and walk further down the street, say hello to another, and be allowed to take part in intellectual conversation 20:06:58 <HDIEagle> if so, its not communism 20:07:32 <PublicServer> <Farden> it looks more like an anarchy 20:07:34 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> is that what you're saying? 20:07:46 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> micro-transactions make for communism? 20:08:24 <Ammler> satyap: if you like to help with a plugin or such for redmine, visit us at #openttdcoop.devzone 20:08:34 <HDIEagle> newgrf package for openttd: http://1186250293:8082/collision.png 20:08:48 <Ammler> (or with general maintenance) 20:08:56 <Farden> kaboom! 20:09:10 <satyap> nice 20:09:21 <HDIEagle> i forget who i swiped that from 20:09:41 <HDIEagle> that would be sweet 20:09:45 <PublicServer> *** dangerDAN_ has left the game (leaving) 20:09:49 <HDIEagle> we'd be messing with that for days 20:09:51 <hylje> why does an integer address work 20:10:00 <satyap> ? 20:10:05 <KenjiE20> I was just wondering that 20:10:11 <satyap> oh yeah an ip address 20:10:18 <satyap> is just 32 bits (ipv4) 20:10:20 <HDIEagle> because it's decimal 20:10:22 <KenjiE20> that's not an IP 20:10:23 <satyap> express that as a decimal 20:10:26 <HDIEagle> it is an IP 20:10:32 <HDIEagle> don't dwell on it 20:10:37 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> brb 20:10:38 <hylje> 4 x 8bit = 32bit 20:10:43 <satyap> the dotted-quad just takes 8 bits at a time, and expresses each octet as decimal 20:10:44 <PublicServer> *** planetm4ker has left the game (leaving) 20:11:09 <PublicServer> <Farden> the main problem with ipv6 is that you just can't give easily an IP to someone 20:11:11 <PublicServer> <Farden> too long^^ 20:11:18 <hylje> lies 20:11:19 <Xaroth> that's why they invented DNS 20:11:29 <PublicServer> <Farden> you don't always have DNS 20:11:35 <PublicServer> <Farden> example : home network 20:11:38 <valhallasw> chrome understands 0xdeadbeef addresses... more or less 20:11:41 <satyap> which part is lies? 20:11:42 <Xaroth> I have dns at my home network 20:11:46 * Xaroth owns the xaroth.nl domain 20:11:47 <PublicServer> <Farden> you have 20:11:52 <PublicServer> <Farden> but not anyone has 20:11:55 <satyap> anyone can have a .local dns 20:11:56 <valhallasw> parses them and shows the possible ip to use 20:11:58 <valhallasw> *grin* 20:11:58 <PublicServer> * Farden owns jk3farden.com domain 20:11:59 <PublicServer> <Farden> ^^ 20:12:10 <narc> .no-ip.org domains are free. 20:12:18 <satyap> so're .local :) 20:12:27 <PublicServer> <Farden> yeah, I know 20:12:32 <PublicServer> <Farden> I have my own DNS server at home 20:12:43 <PublicServer> <Farden> I'm just saying that for someone not into computers 20:12:50 <PublicServer> <Farden> it will be harder than with ipv4 20:13:04 <PublicServer> <Farden> cause they don't know how to setup a DNS 20:13:05 <PublicServer> *** planetm4ker joined the game 20:13:07 <PublicServer> <Farden> and so on 20:13:10 <PublicServer> *** Mark has joined spectators 20:13:12 <narc> They don't have to. 20:13:24 <PublicServer> <Farden> if you have 2 computers at home 20:13:26 <narc> THey can use some prettified web interface to some free service. 20:13:31 <PublicServer> <Farden> and you want to share files between computers 20:13:46 <narc> That? You don't need DNS for that. 20:13:54 <HDIEagle> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6#Notation ??? 20:13:55 <Webster> Title: IPv6 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) 20:13:55 <PublicServer> <Farden> so how do you do? 20:13:56 <satyap> then those people "not into computers" use cd or usb stick 20:14:05 <Xaroth> OR 20:14:06 <PublicServer> <Farden> okay... wron example 20:14:10 <Xaroth> they use the windows auto-discover feature 20:14:14 <KenjiE20> <Farden> I have my own DNS server at home <-- what a mildly pointless waste of home processing power 20:14:16 <Xaroth> that discovers shares on the network... 20:14:19 <narc> Pretty much. NetBIOS. 20:14:34 <PublicServer> <Farden> Kenji : I have LOTS of computing power at home, so... I can waste a bit^^ 20:14:37 <narc> KenjiE20: I submit to you http://narc.ro/ 20:14:39 <Webster> Title: Home - Narc.ro (at narc.ro) 20:14:51 <narc> Completely served out of my home. 20:15:17 <narc> (includes: DNS, SMTP, HTTP. May contain small parts. Batteries not included. Keep out of the reach of children.) 20:15:24 <HDIEagle> i just use it for sharing pictures instantly 20:15:40 * satyap has smtp but uses a smarthost for outgoing and imap for incoming. so, not really. 20:15:52 <PublicServer> *** hylje has left the game (leaving) 20:15:58 <satyap> i don't use it for anything. my bandwidth to outside world sucks 20:16:05 <PublicServer> <Farden> when does the vote ends? 20:16:15 <HDIEagle> how do y'all deal with autorun.inf viruses? 20:16:24 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> uhm... one can vote for one self? 20:16:25 <hylje> disable autorun 20:16:30 <PublicServer> <Farden> yes 20:16:35 <PublicServer> <Mark> planetm4ker: with points you can :P 20:16:35 <PublicServer> <Farden> autorun disabled 20:16:36 <PublicServer> <Farden> always 20:16:41 <HDIEagle> i meant the shellexecute 20:16:46 <KenjiE20> don't plug in shit you don't trust 20:16:48 <narc> What autorun.inf? 20:16:50 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> bulloks voting IMO 20:16:55 <HDIEagle> someone plugs in a flash drive 20:16:56 <PublicServer> <Farden> and yeah 20:16:57 <narc> Linux don't care. 20:16:59 <HDIEagle> you go into explorer 20:17:01 <PublicServer> <Farden> Kenji is right 20:17:03 <HDIEagle> and double-click it to open it 20:17:06 <PublicServer> <Farden> don't plug something unsafe 20:17:07 <PublicServer> <Farden> that's all 20:17:08 <HDIEagle> instead, it executes 20:17:11 <PublicServer> *** Mark has joined company #1 20:17:12 <narc> I don't plug shit into my Windows. 20:17:18 <HDIEagle> the problem i had was 20:17:20 <satyap> HDIEagle: seriously, good antivirus, and pray a lot. and linux, seriously. 20:17:21 <PublicServer> <Farden> right click, open 20:17:24 <HDIEagle> not everyone in my family is tech savvy 20:17:27 <PublicServer> <Farden> it's as easy as that 20:17:36 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> PM that might be cheating 20:17:41 <narc> And turn off autorun. 20:17:46 <PublicServer> <Farden> cheating? 20:17:47 <narc> Nothing should run by itself. 20:17:49 <satyap> ah, that one you deal with with "if your computer has problems, i will wipe and reinstall" 20:17:50 <HDIEagle> so i wrote a C++ program to auto-delete the open and shellexecute from autorun.inf 20:17:52 <PublicServer> <Farden> oh 20:17:53 <PublicServer> <Farden> yeah 20:17:54 <PublicServer> <Farden> ^^ 20:17:55 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> so. 8 for me 0 for all else then. Fine :) 20:17:55 <PublicServer> *** planetm4ker has left the game (connection lost) 20:17:57 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> PM's votes 20:18:12 <PublicServer> *** Mark has left the game (leaving) 20:18:21 <satyap> planetmaker: apparently you have to vote the numbers 1 through 8, no repeats 20:18:25 <PublicServer> <Farden> ...Mark? 20:18:36 <HDIEagle> why bother with a full-blown antivirus when the only problem you have is with infected flash drives? 20:18:40 <planetmaker> damn 20:18:47 <planetmaker> wifi died :S 20:18:51 <Mark> planetmaker is right 20:18:53 <Mark> i shouldnt vote 20:18:54 <narc> Where do you get these infected flash drives, anyway? 20:19:07 <HDIEagle> school or an infected photo lab 20:19:15 <HDIEagle> they also propogate via sd cards 20:19:19 <HDIEagle> and ipods 20:19:19 <narc> Blech. 20:19:22 <satyap> flash drives are the floppies of the 21st century 20:19:23 <narc> Linux for the win. 20:19:40 <valhallasw> narc: erm, actually 20:19:41 <valhallasw> no :P 20:19:47 <satyap> without the benefit of write-protect 20:19:48 <HDIEagle> the only way around it is to use the autorun pop-up (ironically) or type the letter drive into the address bar 20:19:49 <narc> Heard of people running around with infected SD card and never finding out because they only ran Linux. 20:19:50 <PublicServer> <Farden> I'm working with linux at work 20:19:56 <PublicServer> <Farden> ok, it's good for developpers 20:19:59 <PublicServer> <Farden> but I prefer windows at home 20:20:06 <valhallasw> narc: sure, but there are some /very/ nasty botnet scripts on linux :P 20:20:07 <PublicServer> <Farden> even if I can handle an unix system 20:20:28 <Xaroth> I run windows, with vmware workstation to boot into linux 20:20:39 <PublicServer> <Farden> I'm doing the contrary 20:20:44 <narc> HDIEagle: Actually, if autorun.inf is present, it'll override the pop-up, and it won't wait for you to type the letter anywhere, either. 20:20:44 <PublicServer> <Farden> I run linux on a VM 20:20:47 <satyap> Farden: if you haven't already, try the newer ubuntu systems. pretty nice, but some more work needed 20:20:51 <PublicServer> <Farden> with windows 7 x64 as a host 20:20:53 <planetmaker> damn... wifi died :S 20:20:54 <narc> valhallasw: Never met one. 20:21:00 <HDIEagle> narc: no, flashdrives don't have autoexecuted autorun.infs 20:21:08 <PublicServer> <Farden> theys could 20:21:09 <HDIEagle> narc: its a security measure 20:21:11 <PublicServer> <Farden> if you set your bios 20:21:16 <PublicServer> <Farden> to recognise them as a CD drive 20:21:21 <PublicServer> <Farden> or as a floppy drive 20:21:28 <PublicServer> <Farden> I have this feature on my MB 20:21:28 <narc> Hrm. That's better than I expected. 20:21:35 <HDIEagle> Farden: never seen that before 20:21:44 <HDIEagle> the way it works is, you pop it in 20:21:46 <HDIEagle> you go to explorer 20:21:49 <HDIEagle> and double click the drive 20:21:53 <HDIEagle> thats when it executes 20:21:53 <PublicServer> <Farden> yeah 20:22:02 <PublicServer> <Farden> indeed 20:22:13 <narc> Yay. Because double-click "obviously" means "execute the auto-run" 20:22:27 <satyap> hmm. this explains much. 20:22:32 <HDIEagle> i take autorun to mean run without any human interference other than inserting the media 20:22:37 <HDIEagle> as in, cd autorun 20:22:47 <narc> OTOH, I only ever work with the explorer folder view. Or Total Commander. 20:22:49 <HDIEagle> autorun.inf is simply the name of the file 20:22:59 <HDIEagle> the actual keys involved are "open" and "shellexecute" 20:23:03 <PublicServer> <Farden> yeah but it has a special action 20:23:17 <HDIEagle> i guess the proper term would be shellexecute 20:23:26 <satyap> or autoexec :) 20:23:33 * satyap needs to do some work 20:23:34 <PublicServer> <Farden> or whatever 20:24:35 <PublicServer> <AmmIer> you shouldn't calculate 20:24:39 <PublicServer> <AmmIer> the totals 20:24:45 <dangerdan> !password 20:24:45 <PublicServer> dangerdan: tepees 20:24:48 <PublicServer> <Farden> they will be recalculated anyway 20:24:52 <PublicServer> <Farden> it's just to show an idea 20:24:57 <HDIEagle> the reason why photo labs no longer accept flash drives is because of flash drives that emulate CD drives (u3) 20:24:59 <PublicServer> *** dangerDAN_ joined the game 20:25:06 <HDIEagle> most photo labs* 20:25:18 <PublicServer> <Farden> well, use a VM system 20:25:22 <PublicServer> <Farden> and in case of virus 20:25:29 <PublicServer> <Farden> throw the VM and launch a new one 20:25:40 <PublicServer> *** dangerDAN_ has left the game (leaving) 20:25:41 <HDIEagle> thats real kludgy 20:25:50 <PublicServer> <Farden> no, VM are the future 20:25:56 <PublicServer> <Farden> or at least are supposed to be 20:25:59 <HDIEagle> should have someone that knows what their doing prevent the drive from being recognized 20:26:14 <narc> Flash drives don't emulate CD drives... usually. 20:26:18 <HDIEagle> W_DEVICECHANGED or something... 20:26:20 <HDIEagle> u3 drives do 20:26:22 <PublicServer> *** planetm4ker joined the game 20:26:26 <PublicServer> <Farden> yeah, they emulate HDD 20:26:31 <PublicServer> <Farden> that's the default settings of the bios 20:26:36 <narc> Ah, speciall hardware. 20:26:39 <PublicServer> <Farden> but for example if you want to be able to boot 20:26:40 <narc> *special, even 20:26:43 <PublicServer> <Farden> with a flash drive 20:26:45 <HDIEagle> U3 drives are flash drives that emulate cd drives 20:26:49 <PublicServer> <Farden> you have to use it as a CDRom 20:27:02 <narc> Sure, as long as it reports "Hi, I am a CD drive" it works. 20:27:18 <narc> The Huawei "pebble" 3G modems do this. 20:27:20 <PublicServer> <Farden> yep, and as it is USB 20:27:26 <PublicServer> <Farden> it can change to everything 20:27:31 <PublicServer> <Farden> floppy, CD, HDD 20:27:35 <valhallasw> but that's not easy to do for a virus 20:27:41 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> so i win? 20:27:45 <HDIEagle> what? u3 drives are hardware 20:28:03 <PublicServer> <Farden> you don't even need a special flash drive 20:28:12 <PublicServer> <Farden> with some bios advnaced features 20:28:13 <PublicServer> <Farden> you can do that 20:28:15 <valhallasw> well, the question is wether the data on the 'cd drive u3' is writable 20:28:22 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> yeah, kind of like shooting yourself in the foot 20:28:27 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> right, farden? 20:28:29 <valhallasw> yes, but that's way too specific for a virus :p 20:28:35 <PublicServer> <Farden> when you know what you're doing 20:28:38 <PublicServer> <Farden> there's no danger^^ 20:28:47 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> they probably have a second drive letter for write access 20:28:51 <narc> I think I'll bow out of this convo. 20:28:57 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> i don't know, how does windows handle cd drive write access? 20:29:02 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> does it attempt and fail or automatically fail? 20:29:07 <PublicServer> <Farden> no 20:29:12 <PublicServer> <Farden> it considers it as a CD-RW 20:29:16 <PublicServer> <Farden> so it can add files 20:29:19 <PublicServer> <Farden> but not modifies or remove 20:29:24 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> but windows makes a temp directory for cd-rw 20:29:29 <PublicServer> <Farden> and it has a temp buffer 20:29:30 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> you must explicitly burn to write to media 20:29:33 <PublicServer> <Farden> yes 20:29:38 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> oh ok 20:29:52 <PublicServer> <Farden> so, if the virus want to "write" 20:29:56 <narc> Hrm. I vaguely remember something about the UDF filesystem. 20:29:57 <PublicServer> <Farden> it use the temp buffer 20:30:02 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> what if you have 26 partitions, will the drive autorun? 20:30:03 <PublicServer> <Farden> and then, everything is possible 20:30:10 <PublicServer> <Farden> no 20:30:13 <PublicServer> <Farden> windows will crash^^ 20:30:20 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> i don't think so... 20:30:23 *** ced has joined #openttdcoop 20:30:23 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> you can have unmounted drives 20:30:30 <PublicServer> <Farden> yeah 20:30:34 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> have you tried it? *is curious* 20:30:37 <PublicServer> <Farden> but there is an automount system 20:30:46 <PublicServer> <Farden> but thanks for the challenge 20:30:50 <PublicServer> <Farden> I'm powering up a VM 20:30:53 <narc> 26 drive letters isn't a big deal. 20:30:55 <PublicServer> <Farden> i'm gonna make it explode^^ 20:31:02 <narc> Just mount a bunch of network drives. 20:31:08 <HDIEagle> yehyeh 20:31:21 <narc> Takes a lot of work to get that many in partitions, though. 20:31:23 <PublicServer> *** Farden has left the game (leaving) 20:31:28 <HDIEagle> i have an R drive mapped to a temp directory on my d drive 20:31:34 <HDIEagle> :3 20:31:42 <HDIEagle> used to have a ram drive 20:31:47 <narc> Oh, and I think A and B are special 20:31:57 <HDIEagle> floppies only yeh? 20:32:13 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> or zip driver 20:32:15 <narc> Yah, but that probably extends to USB floppies. 20:32:29 <narc> ZIP drives emulate the floppy interface, I think. 20:32:39 <HDIEagle> 26 partitions is easier to say than 26 or 24 mounted volumes, depending on if you have 2 floppy drives or not, 25 if you have 1 20:32:56 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> you can tell windows the your BD drive is you Adrive 20:33:12 <narc> Drive letters, on the other hand, is perfectly easy to say. 20:33:13 *** ced_ has quit IRC 20:33:34 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> but it sounds so plebian 20:33:39 <SmatZ> planetmaker: I miss stats too :) 20:33:45 <Xaroth> I prefer the unix style of dealing with drives 20:33:47 <SmatZ> but I was overvoted :-p 20:33:47 <Farden> ok, I have a VM with 26 HDD 20:33:48 <narc> Too bad, it's official Windows verbiage. 20:33:50 <Farden> now booting 20:33:51 <Booth> who actauly uses real floppy drives 20:33:58 <planetmaker> :) 20:34:05 <Farden> and I will plug my flash drive 20:34:08 <Farden> to see what appens 20:34:20 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> got an external cd drive? 20:34:24 <planetmaker> SmatZ that was basically my point. It was interesting to see who actually worked on it. 20:34:29 <narc> Probably won't mount. 20:34:32 <planetmaker> (I just had a look this morning) 20:35:03 <narc> I had to use floppy drives recently (earlier this year). Very fun occasion. 20:35:14 <narc> I installed Debian on a 486. 20:35:20 <KenjiE20> <Booth> who actauly uses real floppy drives <-- I use a floppy to boot up spinrite every couple of months 20:35:25 <Farden> ok... so I have 24 HDD recognised 20:35:37 <Farden> plus 1 virtual floppy and 1 virtual CDROM 20:35:41 <Farden> all letters are taken 20:35:46 <narc> Great work. 20:35:54 <HDIEagle> KenjiE20: i have to re-learn how to make a boot disk on a flash drive every time i need to emergency-boot 20:36:29 <HDIEagle> Farden: cool, plug 'er in 20:36:41 <KenjiE20> still have all my old DOS ultra freememory boot diskettes :P 20:36:44 *** Thijs2 has joined #openttdcoop 20:36:45 <Farden> wait, I need to initialize the USB transfert 20:36:51 <Thijs2> !password 20:36:51 <Farden> to plug the flash drive into the VM 20:36:51 <PublicServer> Thijs2: caches 20:36:54 <Farden> and not into the host 20:37:05 <KenjiE20> back when you used to use a boot disk for each game :) 20:37:07 <HDIEagle> oh, thought you had a virtual flash drive :3 20:37:11 <PublicServer> *** Thijs joined the game 20:37:52 <HDIEagle> did someone delete someones vote roster? 20:38:24 <PublicServer> *** planetm4ker has left the game (leaving) 20:38:37 <Farden> damn... need... more... ram 20:38:47 <PublicServer> *** Thijs has left the game (leaving) 20:38:49 *** Thijs2 has quit IRC 20:39:08 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (leaving) 20:39:18 <HDIEagle> anyone see this before? : http://techreport.com/r.x/gigabyte-iram/card.jpg 20:39:27 <HDIEagle> i so want one, but they're 0 20:39:32 <satyap> daemontools rocks my socks (cd for each game, i hate swapping) 20:39:36 <SmatZ> without memory? 20:39:38 <HDIEagle> yep 20:39:40 <HDIEagle> without memory 20:39:49 <SmatZ> expensive :( 20:39:52 <HDIEagle> yeah :( 20:40:02 <HDIEagle> it plugs in via sata 20:40:03 <satyap> i booted windows 3.x with a ram drive on a 4GB laptop 386 :) 20:40:05 <satyap> once. 20:40:06 <SmatZ> another 0 for 8GB... 20:40:15 <HDIEagle> i think it maxes at 2 or 4 gb 20:40:22 <valhallasw> HDIEagle: pci bus? :/ 20:40:25 <satyap> 4MB, darnit. 20:40:29 <HDIEagle> 4 GB maximum 20:40:32 <PublicServer> *** tneo joined the game 20:40:39 <HDIEagle> it plugs in via SATA 20:40:41 <satyap> my old laptop was 4MB, is what i'm saying 20:40:44 <HDIEagle> the pci is for...something else 20:40:47 <narc> Hrm. 32-bit memory controller on that card? 20:40:48 * satyap sinks deeper into a mire of explanations 20:40:52 <valhallasw> HDIEagle: power, probably 20:40:53 <narc> PCI is probably for power. 20:40:58 <HDIEagle> yeh, power definitely 20:41:10 <HDIEagle> backup battery, pffrrt 20:41:12 <satyap> does spinrite actually work? 20:41:17 <PublicServer> <tneo> what happend to simply cast a vote 20:41:28 <narc> RAM clears itself if unpowered. 20:41:28 <KenjiE20> <satyap> does spinrite actually work? <-- friggin damn well, yes 20:41:29 <HDIEagle> plurality happened 20:41:35 *** [alt]buster has joined #openttdcoop 20:41:35 <PublicServer> *** satyap has left the game (leaving) 20:41:36 <PublicServer> <tneo> why making things complex 20:41:39 <satyap> cool 20:41:40 <HDIEagle> i want a ram drive for temporary storage 20:41:43 <HDIEagle> not permanent storage 20:41:45 <HDIEagle> :P 20:42:19 <HDIEagle> wish this wasnt a niche market 20:42:21 <SmatZ> hmmm RAMs are getting heaper, 8GB would be for just ~0 20:42:27 <KenjiE20> I run spinrite every couple months to be sure nothing is getting too off-kilter :) 20:42:45 <HDIEagle> not like you need ddr 800 either 20:43:02 <HDIEagle> sata will be the bottleneck 20:43:26 <narc> Meh. mount -t tmpfs tmp /mount/point 20:43:54 <Farden> ok! 20:43:56 <satyap> ^ :) 20:43:58 <HDIEagle> can you copy an entire game to that mount for windows emulatioN? 20:44:00 <Farden> it's done! 20:44:05 <tneo> one shouldn't vote for himself 20:44:06 <Farden> and 20:44:09 <HDIEagle> results? 20:44:14 <Farden> it doesn't appear anywhere 20:44:17 <narc> It didn't mount. 20:44:21 <Farden> indeed narc 20:44:26 <narc> Not surprised. 20:44:26 <satyap> what does mount say? 20:44:26 <HDIEagle> lol 20:44:28 <Farden> it didn't mount in a letter 20:44:29 <HDIEagle> didn't crash 20:44:29 <Farden> BUT 20:44:32 <HDIEagle> did it? 20:44:35 <PublicServer> *** tneo has left the game (leaving) 20:44:36 <Farden> it mount in a ntfs drive 20:44:40 <Farden> \nameofthekey 20:44:45 <HDIEagle> O.o 20:44:46 <narc> Hah, sweet. 20:44:48 *** ced_ has joined #openttdcoop 20:44:52 <HDIEagle> who the hell programmed that? 20:44:59 <Farden> you can also do that with hard drives 20:45:04 <Farden> if you have more than 26 20:45:08 <HDIEagle> lol 20:45:21 <narc> I think you get that with any drive, actually. 20:45:23 <narc> Hrm. 20:45:26 <Farden> yep 20:45:30 *** [com]buster has quit IRC 20:45:30 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 20:46:10 <narc> Though I expected \?\name-of-device or something like that. 20:46:27 <narc> I vaguely recall that being a valid addressing mechanism. 20:47:08 <Farden> well... it doesn't appends often^^ 20:47:13 <KenjiE20> \device\name is valid SAMBA naming 20:47:28 *** HDlEagle has joined #openttdcoop 20:47:28 <narc> That's just it -- it's SMB naming. 20:47:34 <HDlEagle> yay eee pc 20:47:44 <narc> What if there's a computer on the network with same name? 20:48:01 <KenjiE20> xp explodes 20:48:09 <HDlEagle> thought it was \msnet\comp 20:48:15 *** ced has quit IRC 20:48:31 <Farden> it's \WORKGROUP\comp 20:48:34 <Farden> or something else 20:48:34 <KenjiE20> it's \networkname\sharename 20:48:36 <Farden> can be defined 20:48:46 <Farden> but default is \workgroup 20:48:47 <Farden> and 20:48:49 <HDlEagle> my network is MSHOME :P 20:48:52 <Farden> it can be omitted 20:48:52 <narc> Fine, a workgroup with the same name :P 20:48:52 <KenjiE20> or \workgroup 20:48:54 *** StarLite has quit IRC 20:48:57 <Farden> so if you type \comp 20:49:01 <Farden> it will work 20:49:02 <HDlEagle> use \COMP 20:49:07 <KenjiE20> but \workgroup validates to a PC 20:49:12 <Farden> even if you didn't typed \mshome or \workgroup 20:49:16 <HDlEagle> unless you named your comp the same as workgroup the same as flashdrive 20:49:17 <narc> Meh. 20:49:21 <KenjiE20> and is served up by a computer acting as master browser 20:49:38 <narc> SMB is ugly. 20:49:41 <KenjiE20> yup 20:49:41 <Farden> ^^ 20:49:46 <Farden> yep 20:49:54 <HDlEagle> why are we speculating? you have a VM runnin 20:49:55 <KenjiE20> works though 20:49:57 <PublicServer> *** HD1Eagle has left the game (connection lost) 20:50:08 <Farden> cause I shutted it down 20:50:14 <HDlEagle> :( 20:50:26 <Farden> I don't want to spend my nights trying to find bugs in windwos^^ 20:50:50 <Farden> they already have enougth 20:51:17 <HDlEagle> such as 20:51:23 <KenjiE20> tough, you're going to, so nuurr 20:51:25 <HDlEagle> (i'll regret this) 20:51:34 <Farden> explorer.exe crashes 20:51:50 <KenjiE20> I love the explorer timing bug 20:52:25 <HDlEagle> you mean, like, from a timer rolling over? 20:52:29 <KenjiE20> gets all screwy with multicores and you end up with multiple taskbars all sitting in one 20:52:40 <Farden> really? 20:52:43 <Farden> I never had that one 20:52:46 <KenjiE20> so you end up with like 3 entries for one program 20:52:46 <Farden> and I have a dual core 20:52:48 <HDlEagle> dual core count? 20:52:53 <KenjiE20> yup 20:52:58 <KenjiE20> it's a stock SP2 bug 20:52:58 <HDlEagle> never had it 20:53:01 <Farden> and now a quad core with hyperthreading 20:53:04 <HDlEagle> i has SP3 20:53:05 <Farden> but I have seven 20:53:07 <Farden> not XP 20:53:16 <KenjiE20> yea, xp sp2 20:53:21 <Farden> (but I had XP before and it never happened) 20:53:34 <HDlEagle> linux is allowed to update 20:53:39 <HDlEagle> why not windows 20:53:41 <KenjiE20> best way around it is to either autologin or type your pwd really wuick :) 20:53:51 <KenjiE20> quick* 20:54:20 <HDlEagle> ? 20:55:06 <Booth> has everyone voted? 20:55:19 <KenjiE20> no 20:55:23 <Farden> patience, chris, patience^^ 20:55:23 <planetmaker> no 20:55:34 <HDlEagle> we know you're excited 20:55:56 <HDlEagle> but pacific islanders must be able to vote to 20:56:28 <PublicServer> <Radicalimero> hello, i'm new to openttdcoop 20:56:37 <Farden> welcome 20:56:40 <satyap> hello 20:56:41 <PublicServer> <Radicalimero> thx 20:56:44 <KenjiE20> you're not that new 20:56:45 <HDlEagle> how'd you get in our server without help? LOL, hi 20:56:48 <KenjiE20> you made it in game 20:56:56 <PublicServer> <Radicalimero> haha 20:57:10 <PublicServer> <Radicalimero> got a really good wiki 20:57:56 <KenjiE20> got a out-of-date wiki <-- fixed :P 20:58:10 <Farden> not THAT out of date^^ 20:58:20 <Farden> it's still usable 20:58:22 <Farden> see?^^ 20:58:23 <KenjiE20> a good chunk of it is 20:58:41 <HDlEagle> i wonder if he knows which way's north? that'd make my day 20:58:51 <HDlEagle> mt 20:59:02 <KenjiE20> fail 20:59:02 <Farden> north? 20:59:04 <KenjiE20> :) 20:59:04 <Farden> it's that way 20:59:07 <Farden> ^ 20:59:16 <Radicalimero> really :P 20:59:18 <Farden> ^^ 20:59:28 <HDlEagle> i thought we went by ^< 20:59:36 <KenjiE20> @wiki compass 20:59:39 <Webster> Compass - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=compass 20:59:42 <narc> Top-left, aye. 20:59:48 <HDlEagle> LOL 20:59:55 <HDlEagle> oh, he was kidding 21:00:13 <narc> Yah. 21:01:51 <Booth> Radicalimero do you need help? 21:02:02 <Radicalimero> i do think so 21:02:09 <HDlEagle> jargon 21:02:10 <Booth> what with? 21:02:20 <Booth> just ask us 21:02:29 <Booth> we love being asked wuestion we know the answers to 21:02:34 <Booth> makes us feel important 21:02:35 <Radicalimero> i gues i look first before joyning 21:02:42 <Radicalimero> :P 21:02:56 <Farden> we're in the voting phase 21:02:59 <Farden> just read the instructions 21:03:04 <Farden> and if you have any questions 21:03:06 <Farden> we're all here 21:03:12 <Radicalimero> but i don't knowwich plan is best 21:03:39 <Farden> you don't have to vote 21:03:44 <Farden> if you don't know what to vote for 21:03:47 <Farden> just observe 21:03:49 <PublicServer> *** ChaseMonkey has left the game (leaving) 21:03:59 <Radicalimero> i think i just do that 21:04:19 <Booth> just vote for the plan you like the shematic of 21:04:26 <Booth> as thats what you will have to build 21:04:26 <planetmaker> Radicalimero: well, join the server and don't be afraid to join the company, either. 21:04:38 <PublicServer> *** Radicalimero has joined company #1 21:05:03 <planetmaker> !help 21:05:03 <PublicServer> planetmaker: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands 21:05:48 <narc> I think I'll be off; nn, guys. 21:05:56 <planetmaker> there's somewhere a nice article on how to start here... 21:05:57 <KenjiE20> nn 21:06:01 <planetmaker> night, narc 21:06:01 *** Levi has quit IRC 21:06:07 <KenjiE20> @qiki quickstart 21:06:10 <KenjiE20> @wiki quickstart 21:06:14 *** satyap has left #openttdcoop 21:06:15 <planetmaker> :) 21:06:17 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=quickstart 21:06:21 <KenjiE20> not having a good night for typing tonight >_> 21:06:28 <planetmaker> ^^ Radicalimero 21:06:46 <planetmaker> that web page gives a good introduction 21:06:55 <Radicalimero> i'll look @ it 21:07:18 <KenjiE20> if you get stuck on jargon 21:07:20 <KenjiE20> @glossary 21:07:20 <Webster> bananas, bbh, cl, coop, distantjoin, ecs, ecsvectors, ice, is, lb, ll, ml, mm, nars, pax, pbs, pf, prio, prios, ps, roro, rr, rv, rvs, setdef, sl, slh, sml, srnw, stationwalk, stationwalking, tf, tgv, TL, ttt, yapf, h2h, 2cc 21:07:28 <KenjiE20> ^ you can ask the bot about those 21:07:34 <planetmaker> eh. nice. didn't know that :) 21:07:40 <planetmaker> @bbh 21:07:40 <Webster> Back Bone Hub, see: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Backbone_Hub 21:08:06 <KenjiE20> pm; why d'you think Webster was called Webster? :P 21:08:13 <planetmaker> :P 21:08:16 <Radicalimero> haha 21:08:45 <KenjiE20> thats why he also responds to 'define: ' amongst other things 21:08:55 <HDIEagle> !password 21:08:55 <PublicServer> HDIEagle: swarms 21:08:57 <Booth> !fish 21:08:57 <PublicServer> Booth: Today's fish is smoked eel on toast with horseradish cream. 21:09:05 <planetmaker> !fish 21:09:05 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Today's fish is sashimi with a trace of blowfish. 21:09:06 <Booth> fish still wroks 21:09:10 <PublicServer> *** HD1Eagle joined the game 21:09:11 <planetmaker> hm... 21:09:16 <KenjiE20> horseradish cream? 21:09:19 <planetmaker> Booth: it's part of autopilot 21:09:20 <KenjiE20> O.o 21:09:29 <Booth> and i have been put on the nice fish list 21:09:33 *** ODM has quit IRC 21:09:35 <Booth> i used to get no fish for you 21:09:38 <Booth> everyday 21:09:47 <planetmaker> KenjiE20 what's wrong with horseradish? 21:09:53 <KenjiE20> nothing 21:10:01 <KenjiE20> just never heard of it called 'cream' 21:10:28 <planetmaker> well. horseradish cream is just that: minced horseradish mixed with cream 21:10:32 <planetmaker> very tasty 21:10:32 <Booth> what is horseradish if it isnt a cream? 21:10:40 <planetmaker> Booth: a root 21:11:10 <KenjiE20> we jsut call it horseradish, and horseradish root 21:11:18 <planetmaker> aye 21:11:19 <KenjiE20> or plant 21:11:22 *** HDlEagle has quit IRC 21:11:38 <Booth> we call it a radish or horseraddish cream 21:11:41 <planetmaker> that happens if non-native speakers mess with these texts :P 21:11:51 <KenjiE20> or horseradish powder 21:11:57 <KenjiE20> if we happen to have some 21:12:15 <planetmaker> well... there are differences IMO 21:12:16 <PublicServer> *** AmmIer has left the game (connection lost) 21:12:31 <KenjiE20> or horseradish (fried) peas, or ice cream 21:12:38 <KenjiE20> mmmm 21:12:45 <planetmaker> between powder, minced horseraddish and minced horseraddish with cream :) 21:12:48 <Booth> egg and bacon icecream 21:12:52 <planetmaker> ice cream... 21:12:56 * planetmaker is off for a bit :P 21:12:57 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> which i hear isn't that bad 21:13:02 <KenjiE20> it's not 21:13:05 <KenjiE20> it's quite nice 21:13:15 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> sounds strangely delicious 21:13:20 <hylje> bacon makes everything better 21:13:20 <KenjiE20> highly refreshing 21:13:33 <Booth> chilly icecream is realy nice 21:13:45 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> you mean, not quite frozen, not quite melted? 21:13:53 <Booth> no 21:13:53 <gleeb> !password 21:13:54 <PublicServer> gleeb: swarms 21:13:54 <hylje> how is it /ice/ cream if it's not chilly 21:14:02 <Booth> chilly the fruit 21:14:06 <PublicServer> *** Gleeb joined the game 21:14:15 <Booth> the spicy things 21:14:21 <Booth> max an icream of them 21:14:23 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> well, theres a continuim of cold 21:14:37 <Radicalimero> to vote just add signs? 21:14:44 <HDIEagle> continuum? 21:14:51 <Booth> no more signs please 21:15:01 <KenjiE20> <Radicalimero> to vote just add signs? <-- preferably following the voting rules, but yes 21:15:04 <PublicServer> <Gleeb> When does voting end? 21:15:13 <PublicServer> <Gleeb> It's too complex for me to care about it right now. 21:15:41 <KenjiE20> hmm, wonder if I can make an elarobare 'ping-me-when-the-game-starts' trigger 21:15:52 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> i have to leave in 2 hrs :( 21:15:54 * KenjiE20 will have a go shortly 21:16:19 <Booth> kenji it would be possible 21:16:25 *** Levi has joined #openttdcoop 21:16:27 <Booth> link to to the stage changing 21:16:33 <Booth> for voting to building 21:16:39 *** Wall-D has joined #openttdcoop 21:16:46 <Wall-D> !password 21:16:46 <PublicServer> Wall-D: swarms 21:16:47 <planetmaker> Radicalimero: just add your vote to the voting board 21:16:53 <KenjiE20> that would rely on people using the right changing 21:16:54 <Booth> its to late to start tonight 21:16:56 <planetmaker> like the others did 21:17:07 <PublicServer> *** Wall-D joined the game 21:17:16 <KenjiE20> and alias not falling over the topic command 21:17:18 <planetmaker> I guess we'll start only tomorrow (European time) though 21:17:26 <HDIEagle> what time's that? 21:17:36 <KenjiE20> tomorrow 21:17:41 <planetmaker> UT / UT+1 / UT+2 21:17:47 <planetmaker> UT+3 21:17:54 <PublicServer> <Gleeb> Well, I'll vote later. 21:17:56 <HDIEagle> 10 AM or 2 PM 21:18:06 <Farden> gn all 21:18:07 <PublicServer> *** Gleeb has left the game (leaving) 21:18:10 <KenjiE20> tomorrow <-- 21:18:14 <KenjiE20> :P 21:18:16 *** Farden has quit IRC 21:18:21 <planetmaker> he :) Don't ask me, HDIEagle :) I'll be at work either time 21:18:25 <KenjiE20> vagueness :) 21:19:03 <planetmaker> HDIEagle: obviously it needs some people around and preferrably also the winning plan's creator. 21:19:13 <Booth> it also depend on who is declared the winner 21:19:18 <Booth> and when they are next online 21:19:34 <planetmaker> A good guess - as it's Friday - would be somewhen afternoon hours. 21:19:36 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> does that classify as third person were booth to win? 21:19:43 <planetmaker> Rather later than early, though 21:20:06 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> your laster may be my earlier 21:20:09 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> later* 21:20:20 <planetmaker> :) 21:20:29 <planetmaker> Whereever you are: yes 21:20:44 <planetmaker> I'm living in CEST right now 21:20:45 <Booth> well if i win it will be arround 9PM BST 21:21:00 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> chris b: the conditional third person :3 21:21:10 <Mark> !password 21:21:10 <PublicServer> Mark: arched 21:21:19 <planetmaker> Booth: not daylight saving time in Britain? 21:21:21 <PublicServer> *** Mark joined the game 21:21:23 <Booth> no 3rd person 21:21:42 <HDIEagle> can we have all times in GMT 21:21:43 <Booth> its my plan building doesnt start without consent of the designer of the winning plan 21:21:54 <Booth> be the Mark Combuster PM or me 21:22:04 <Booth> GMT isnt used atm 21:22:16 <Booth> but i jsut realised i am not going to be on atall tomoz 21:22:20 <planetmaker> Booth: it is always used and quite a good thing to use GMT 21:22:31 <KenjiE20> GMT = UTC and therefore always used 21:22:36 <planetmaker> because people then don't have to worry about time zones. Only their own. 21:22:50 <planetmaker> KenjiE20: except 13 seconds or so :P 21:23:02 <KenjiE20> pfft 21:23:28 <Booth> well if i win it will be 8 am GMT on sat 21:23:43 <PublicServer> <Mark> we're not going to wait for that 21:24:02 <Booth> you will have to 21:24:09 <HDIEagle> better document your plan better 21:24:16 <PublicServer> <Mark> we dont have to do anything 21:24:27 <PublicServer> <Mark> if you're not around we'll just take the second one 21:24:31 <PublicServer> *** Wall-D has left the game (leaving) 21:24:38 <PublicServer> <Mark> you cant ask 20 or more people to wait a day 21:24:40 <Booth> thats not fair 21:24:47 <HDIEagle> don't tell me not fair 21:24:49 <PublicServer> <Mark> then time better next time 21:24:50 <HDIEagle> i'm gmt -8 21:24:53 <planetmaker> we never waited that long 21:25:04 <planetmaker> tomorrow will be played. 21:25:19 <KenjiE20> life's not fair, get used to it 21:25:20 <PublicServer> <Mark> either allow us to start without you or withdraw 21:25:20 <Booth> ok will be on tomoz at sometime 21:25:29 <planetmaker> -8 is West coast US or so... 21:25:33 <KenjiE20> yea 21:25:41 <PublicServer> <Mark> or china 21:25:48 <planetmaker> No 21:25:48 <PublicServer> <Mark> nvm 21:25:49 <KenjiE20> thats +8 21:25:51 <PublicServer> <Mark> :P 21:25:54 <HDIEagle> :P 21:26:09 <Booth> or south america somewhere 21:26:12 <HDIEagle> lol 21:26:22 <planetmaker> yeah :) 21:26:38 <planetmaker> My guess is that there are a lot of people around at 15h GMT. 21:26:49 *** tidd has joined #openttdcoop 21:26:50 *** tidd has left #openttdcoop 21:26:51 <planetmaker> as it's Friday and people are easily bored :P 21:26:56 <Mark> i wont be 21:27:01 <Mark> loooong day tomorrow 21:27:02 * planetmaker neither 21:27:19 <planetmaker> I'll have guests 21:27:20 <KenjiE20> <Booth> or south america somewhere <-- how would that work? 21:27:29 <HDIEagle> man-made island 21:27:30 *** Brianetta has joined #openttdcoop 21:27:30 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Brianetta 21:27:32 <planetmaker> KenjiE20: same time zone? 21:27:34 <KenjiE20> when was the last time you looked at a map? 21:27:38 *** elnore has joined #openttdcoop 21:27:38 *** elnore has left #openttdcoop 21:27:39 <planetmaker> or? 21:27:55 <HDIEagle> KenjiE20: how do you know i'm not an evil supervillain with his own private island? 21:27:56 <KenjiE20> S.Americ is closer to +0 than west coast USA 21:28:18 <Mark> not all of it 21:28:20 <KenjiE20> HDIEagle, I don't 21:28:27 <planetmaker> nvm. yes 21:28:27 <KenjiE20> actually 21:28:30 <Mark> florida and chile line up i think 21:28:34 <KenjiE20> http://www.myminuteintime.com/graphics/timezone_map.gif 21:28:36 <KenjiE20> ^ 21:28:48 <KenjiE20> florida isn't west coast Mark 21:28:58 <Mark> didnt say it was :P 21:29:01 <Booth> ok very little is actauly in -8 21:29:38 <HDIEagle> is Gambier Islands GMT -8 21:29:50 <Mark> galapagos 21:29:53 <Mark> lots of people there 21:29:58 <Booth> next week will be my last week on coop for 6 weeks 21:30:06 *** burcew has joined #openttdcoop 21:30:06 <burcew> Need Sex? Get Laid! famouspornstars.com 21:30:06 *** burcew has left #openttdcoop 21:30:21 * KenjiE20 click 21:30:23 <KenjiE20> :P 21:30:33 <planetmaker> pitcairn islands are 21:30:34 <HDIEagle> my autoparser doesn't swing that way 21:30:56 <KenjiE20> that was quite high speed spam 21:31:20 <Booth> it missed prozone out 21:31:39 <Mark> yeah i doubt anyone invited it 21:32:04 <KenjiE20> lol, limit is still on in .pro? 21:32:12 <planetmaker> no 21:32:33 <KenjiE20> channel #openttdcoop.pro mode is +ntl 19 21:32:40 <Booth> pro zones doesnt even have a real game on it anymore 21:33:15 <Mark> lol 21:33:16 <KenjiE20> happy now booth, it made it to .pro 21:33:18 <Mark> say what booth? 21:33:48 <Booth> the game is in 1900 21:33:57 <Booth> has nothing you can build or build with 21:34:14 <Mark> you missed the context 21:34:26 <Mark> anyway im off to bed 21:34:30 <Mark> night 21:34:34 <PublicServer> *** Mark has left the game (leaving) 21:35:36 <HDIEagle> is thar a sandbox server? 21:35:58 <Booth> sandbox? 21:36:05 <HDIEagle> where you can do anything you want 21:36:07 <KenjiE20> nope, although last time pz was ran it almost was 21:36:18 <HDIEagle> define: pz 21:36:20 <KenjiE20> just whip up a flat scen in the editor 21:36:28 <KenjiE20> ProZone 21:36:28 <HDIEagle> interactivity it lacks 21:36:42 <hylje> completely flat 21:36:58 <Booth> no one plays on it 21:37:03 <Booth> its a pointless server 21:37:09 *** Wall-D has quit IRC 21:37:12 *** WebIRC-31 has quit IRC 21:37:21 <HDIEagle> end of file? 21:38:11 *** Ganneff has joined #openttdcoop 21:39:26 *** Kolo has joined #openttdcoop 21:39:42 *** Venxir has quit IRC 21:43:42 *** [alt]buster has joined #openttdcoop 21:43:44 *** [com]buster has quit IRC 21:43:48 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 21:47:06 <PublicServer> *** Kolo joined the game 21:47:50 <HDIEagle> what if we only had to have signals every 6 tiles.... 21:48:31 <Booth> then we would need 3 times as many lines 21:48:35 <SmatZ> hehe 21:48:49 <HDIEagle> what if those lines doubled traffic? 21:49:18 <Radicalimero> it would triple if every 2 tiles or not 21:49:53 <HDIEagle> this is a hypothetical 21:49:58 <Radicalimero> k 21:53:47 <PublicServer> *** Kangoo has left the game (leaving) 21:54:34 *** Kangoo has quit IRC 21:56:50 <planetmaker> good night folks & happy voting & playing :) 21:57:57 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop 21:58:16 <PeterT> !password 21:58:16 <PublicServer> PeterT: cavity 21:59:44 <PublicServer> *** mensi joined the game 22:01:38 *** nichevo has quit IRC 22:01:57 <PeterT> !password 22:01:57 <PublicServer> PeterT: cavity 22:02:08 <PublicServer> *** Peter joined the game 22:02:12 <PublicServer> <Peter> sup, who won? 22:02:21 <HDIEagle> it starts tommorow 22:02:23 <HDIEagle> gmt 22:02:27 <HDIEagle> i guess... 22:02:32 <PublicServer> <Peter> what does 22:02:37 <Booth> no one has won 22:02:38 <KenjiE20> ./topic Readme 22:02:42 <Booth> voting is still on 22:02:45 <PublicServer> <Peter> oh 22:02:46 <PublicServer> <Peter> ok 22:02:56 <Booth> but no more planing 22:03:14 <PublicServer> <Peter> wow, thats sad. mensi doesnt even vote for himself 22:03:31 <mensi> dude I'm swiss 22:03:44 <Xaroth> yer human 22:03:50 <HDIEagle> hes got a point 22:03:52 <HDIEagle> the x-man 22:03:56 *** dr_gonzo has quit IRC 22:03:59 <PublicServer> <Peter> :( 22:04:02 <Xaroth> self-preservation is one of the most dominant human traits 22:04:04 <[com]buster> !password 22:04:04 <PublicServer> [com]buster: cavity 22:04:18 <PublicServer> *** combuster joined the game 22:04:37 <HDIEagle> i'm doing experiments 22:04:52 <mensi> I like Marks plan because of the SRNW part 22:04:54 <PublicServer> <combuster> lol contrast votes at my plan 22:05:08 <mensi> and Booths because its simple and does PAX and cargo 22:05:13 <PublicServer> <Peter> im guessing building trains before we actually start biulding is against the rules? 22:05:20 <KenjiE20> yes 22:05:23 <PublicServer> <Peter> building trains like little stations for testing? 22:05:26 <PublicServer> <Peter> ok 22:05:29 <KenjiE20> yes 22:05:32 <PublicServer> <Peter> got it 22:05:37 <Booth> OMG michael jackson has died 22:05:50 *** nichevo has joined #openttdcoop 22:06:01 <mensi> really? 22:06:05 <mensi> finally... 22:06:26 <PublicServer> <combuster> :s <- face twisted between happy and sad 22:06:29 <Booth> it was reported by LA times only 22:06:35 <PublicServer> *** mensi has left the game (leaving) 22:06:39 <KenjiE20> @ http://news.google.com/news?q=michael+jackson+dead&rls=com.microsoft:en-us&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&ei=UPNDSqXrO4XusQPAqdzZDQ&sa=X&oi=news_group&ct=title&resnum=840993313 22:06:46 <HDIEagle> srsly? 22:07:08 <Booth> 100% 22:07:40 <dangerdan> !password 22:07:40 <PublicServer> dangerdan: crocus 22:07:53 <PublicServer> *** dangerDAN_ joined the game 22:07:58 <HDIEagle> all i can think of is negrounds + mj = ??? 22:08:04 <HDIEagle> newgrounds* 22:08:23 <KenjiE20> = profit 22:08:31 <mensi> sorry but mj had it coming 22:08:48 <mensi> he's responsible for his own death 22:08:54 <PublicServer> *** dangerDAN_ has left the game (leaving) 22:12:01 <SmatZ> mensi: how do you mean? 22:12:36 <mensi> with all his surgery and crazy stuff 22:13:54 <SmatZ> umm 22:15:18 <HDIEagle> do celebrities really have all that much to do with our lives? 22:16:57 * SmatZ doesn't like word "celebrity" 22:17:05 <SmatZ> just I like his music 22:17:18 <SmatZ> and wanted to go to his concert, if there was ever any 22:17:19 <PublicServer> <combuster> He's got good songs 22:17:22 <HDIEagle> and thats all he should be rememberd for 22:17:26 <PublicServer> <combuster> Just do not want to see his face :) 22:17:28 <SmatZ> indeed 22:17:43 <HDIEagle> unless your a philosophical twat who thinks that his life is a symbol of racial...poop 22:17:44 <PublicServer> <combuster> HDIeagle +1 22:17:58 <HDIEagle> music, thats all. 22:18:34 <HDIEagle> also: alien ant farm? bleh 22:18:49 * SmatZ doesn't listen to that 22:19:04 <HDIEagle> moar liek alien pants farm 22:19:49 <SmatZ> it's not disco, it's not techno, it's not trance 22:19:53 <SmatZ> it's not interesting :-p 22:20:32 <KenjiE20> SmatZ +1 22:20:52 <SmatZ> :-) 22:24:11 <PublicServer> *** combuster has left the game (connection lost) 22:24:26 <HDIEagle> i'm doing some weird poop 22:24:34 <SmatZ> enojy 22:24:55 <HDIEagle> http://1186250293:8082/poop1.png 22:25:31 *** [alt]buster has joined #openttdcoop 22:25:40 *** Kolo has quit IRC 22:25:42 <PublicServer> *** Kolo has left the game (leaving) 22:25:48 *** [com]buster has quit IRC 22:25:48 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 22:26:01 <HDIEagle> what say you combuster? http://1186250293:8082/poop1.png 22:26:05 <HDIEagle> and, hi 22:27:37 <Radicalimero> that was you're every 6 tiles question 22:27:55 <HDIEagle> :3 22:31:10 <SmatZ> HDIEagle: actually, I expected something like ratemypoo.com 22:31:22 <HDIEagle> O.o 22:31:30 <Radicalimero> lol 22:31:35 <HDIEagle> tmi 22:33:09 <HDIEagle> it makes for very interesting SLH's 22:33:16 <HDIEagle> if we get signals on bridges and tunnels... 22:33:38 <Radicalimero> than it is an excellent idea 22:33:45 <HDIEagle> until then... 22:33:49 <HDIEagle> poop 22:33:53 <Radicalimero> double trafic on same tiles 22:34:17 <HDIEagle> i'm making a 4x4 22:34:21 <HDIEagle> thats only one side 22:34:47 <HDIEagle> of course, if we had signals on bridges and tunnels 22:34:52 <HDIEagle> you could just make a 24 tile bridge 22:35:11 <Radicalimero> than it doesn't matter 22:35:20 <HDIEagle> but the slh would still be relevant 22:35:34 <PublicServer> *** Peter has left the game (leaving) 22:43:19 <HDIEagle> thar, i finished half of it 22:44:43 <HDIEagle> http://1186250293:8082/poop2.png 22:45:32 <Radicalimero> looks nice 22:45:45 <SmatZ> yeah 22:45:59 <SmatZ> I have seen this (or similiar) design several times 22:46:02 <SmatZ> and I still like it :) 22:46:06 <KenjiE20> whats the assumed TL? 22:46:09 <SmatZ> the problem is the signal gap 22:46:11 <HDIEagle> 3 22:46:13 <HDIEagle> lol 22:46:46 <HDIEagle> signal every 6 22:46:54 <HDIEagle> its also high tf 22:47:15 <KenjiE20> would still need doubled bridges assuming signal on brides patch not active 22:47:26 <KenjiE20> bridges* 22:48:07 <HDIEagle> signal every 6 is 1/3rd capacity, theoretically 22:48:16 <HDIEagle> but acceleration... 22:48:33 <HDIEagle> need to do some lab tests 22:48:40 <HDIEagle> or some calculus 22:49:18 * KenjiE20 rethinks 22:49:28 <KenjiE20> hmm, might be right 22:49:38 <HDIEagle> whatis 22:49:57 <KenjiE20> not doubling 22:50:28 *** ChaseMonkey has quit IRC 22:52:46 <HDIEagle> whats the best way to test 22:53:22 <KenjiE20> queue up a metric ass ton of trains and let them loose? 22:53:44 <HDIEagle> maybe do a hopper of 8 tracks to the line 22:54:20 <HDIEagle> ascents are...tricky 23:04:58 *** Progman has quit IRC 23:05:26 <HDIEagle> alright 23:05:34 <HDIEagle> i made a 3 wide ascent and a 4 wide ascent 23:06:06 <HDIEagle> they're pretty consequential 23:09:14 *** KenjiE20 is now known as Guest810 23:09:16 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 23:09:16 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 23:09:37 *** kenji has joined #openttdcoop 23:10:03 <HDIEagle> http://1186250293:8082/poop3.png 23:10:54 <HDIEagle> ugly :P 23:10:59 <mensi> !password 23:11:00 <PublicServer> mensi: jersey 23:11:09 <PublicServer> *** mensi joined the game 23:11:50 <KenjiE20> you could build those bridges straight over the tunnels you know 23:12:10 <KenjiE20> oh wait 23:12:13 <KenjiE20> I see now 23:12:23 <KenjiE20> elevation change 23:14:41 *** Guest810 has quit IRC 23:15:28 *** KenjiE20|SSH has quit IRC 23:15:41 <PublicServer> *** mensi has left the game (connection lost) 23:19:03 <HDIEagle> i have a test track set up 23:19:09 <HDIEagle> a standard 2 lane, and the 4 lane 23:19:20 <HDIEagle> signals every 2, 6 respectively 23:19:39 <Radicalimero> and? 23:19:49 <HDIEagle> i'm going to run it :3 23:20:15 <Radicalimero> can't wait 23:21:17 <HDIEagle> how should i inject? 23:22:07 <Radicalimero> good question 23:22:16 <KenjiE20> carefully with a new needle 23:22:49 *** Booth has quit IRC 23:22:50 <HDIEagle> i think i got it... 23:23:02 <KenjiE20> now ride the high 23:23:04 <KenjiE20> :P 23:23:20 <HDIEagle> now just the starting gun 23:24:58 *** KenjiE20|LT has joined #openttdcoop 23:24:58 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20|LT 23:25:15 <HDIEagle> looks like it will have to wait for tonight 23:25:29 <Radicalimero> :( why 23:25:37 <HDIEagle> gotta go to work 23:26:08 <Radicalimero> that's what you get @ -8 23:26:39 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 23:27:17 <HDIEagle> if its any reconciliation, starting gun is done 23:27:23 <HDIEagle> injection complete 23:27:33 *** [alt]buster has joined #openttdcoop 23:27:47 *** [com]buster has quit IRC 23:27:47 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 23:27:56 <Radicalimero> and... 23:28:40 <SmatZ> @seen calimero 23:28:40 <Webster> SmatZ: I have not seen calimero. 23:28:42 <SmatZ> @seen calimera 23:28:42 <Webster> SmatZ: I have not seen calimera. 23:28:49 <HDIEagle> i have to add signals :P 23:28:52 <SmatZ> your nick is familiar to me :) 23:28:52 <kenji> @seen cali* 23:28:52 <Webster> kenji: I haven't seen anyone matching cali*. 23:29:03 <kenji> @seen *cali* 23:29:03 <Webster> kenji: *cali* could be Radicalimero (1 minute and 6 seconds ago) or Apocalipsys (3 days, 22 hours, 54 minutes, and 50 seconds ago) 23:29:10 <Radicalimero> yes 23:29:33 *** kenji has quit IRC 23:32:33 *** Matt123 has joined #openttdcoop 23:32:46 <Matt123> !password 23:32:46 <PublicServer> Matt123: tablet 23:33:09 <Matt123> !password 23:33:09 <PublicServer> Matt123: tablet 23:35:12 *** Matt123 has quit IRC 23:35:24 <KenjiE20|LT> how nice 23:36:51 <PeterT> what 23:37:12 <PeterT> !password 23:37:13 <PublicServer> PeterT: stigma 23:37:37 <PublicServer> *** Matt joined the game 23:38:07 <PublicServer> *** Peter joined the game 23:41:39 *** Polygon has quit IRC 23:43:05 <HDIEagle> oooh this is a close one 23:43:11 <PublicServer> <Peter> what is 23:43:14 <PublicServer> <Matt> ? 23:43:19 <Radicalimero> is it 23:43:25 <PublicServer> <Peter> whats a close one? 23:43:26 <HDIEagle> uhhhh 23:43:35 <HDIEagle> its between 1 and 2 times more capacity 23:43:41 <HDIEagle> the 4x4 vs 2x2 23:43:50 <HDIEagle> bias betwee 1.4 and 2 23:44:01 <Radicalimero> so it's faster? 23:44:05 <HDIEagle> maybe 23:44:07 <HDIEagle> they went too fast 23:44:12 <Radicalimero> lol 23:44:17 <HDIEagle> it definitely is faster 23:44:22 <HDIEagle> by how much i don't know 23:44:28 <Radicalimero> ok 23:44:34 <HDIEagle> you may not like my testing metric, i don't know 23:44:38 <Radicalimero> didn't expect that 23:44:47 <PublicServer> *** Peter has left the game (leaving) 23:44:51 <HDIEagle> http://1186250293:8082/4x4vs2v2.sav 23:44:54 <PublicServer> *** Matt has left the game (leaving) 23:45:02 <HDIEagle> test it for yourself 23:45:06 <HDIEagle> just shoot the starting train 23:45:49 <Radicalimero> i'll try 23:46:28 <HDIEagle> interestingly, the first 4 trains arrived at same time as the first 2 trains on 2x2 23:46:46 <HDIEagle> and the next 4 about 1.33* laster 23:46:48 <HDIEagle> later 23:46:50 <HDIEagle> 1-1.33 23:46:54 <Radicalimero> i don't think that's intresting 23:47:09 <Radicalimero> more logical 23:48:55 *** [com]buster has quit IRC 23:49:21 *** [com]buster has joined #openttdcoop 23:49:22 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o [com]buster 23:51:36 <HDIEagle> everyone download http://1186250293:8082/4x4vs2v2.sav ? i'm shutting down my computer 23:51:51 <PublicServer> *** HD1Eagle has left the game (leaving) 23:51:57 <HDIEagle> peace 23:52:13 <Radicalimero> night :P 23:52:26 <SmatZ> what's that, HDIEagle? 23:58:56 *** Brianetta has quit IRC 23:59:06 *** Hafai has joined #openttdcoop 23:59:11 <Hafai> !versopm 23:59:14 <Hafai> !version 23:59:14 <PublicServer> Hafai: Autopilot AP+ 3.0 Beta (r699M) 23:59:27 <Hafai> !password 23:59:27 <PublicServer> Hafai: bonnet 23:59:37 <PublicServer> *** Hafai joined the game 23:59:41 *** mensi has quit IRC