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Log for #openttdcoop on 3rd August 2009:
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02:02:07  <Seppel> !download win32
02:02:08  <PublicServer> Seppel: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r16973/openttd-trunk-r16973-windows-win32.zip
02:04:04  <Seppel> !password
02:04:04  <PublicServer> Seppel: deface
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04:44:14  <HDIEagle> !players
04:44:16  <PublicServer> HDIEagle: There are currently no clients connected to the server
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04:44:19  <PublicServer> HDIEagle: fillet
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06:02:24  <V453000> !password
06:02:24  <PublicServer> V453000: leafed
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06:39:30  <HDIEagle> !players
06:39:32  <PublicServer> HDIEagle: There are currently no clients connected to the server
06:41:12  <ODM> mornin
06:43:33  <V453000> hi
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06:50:14  <V453000> !password
06:50:15  <PublicServer> V453000: chimps
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08:08:15  <Skasi> !players
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08:08:16  <PublicServer> Skasi: Client 76 (Orange) is Skasi, in company 1 (OTTDC)
08:08:18  <Skasi> !password
08:08:18  <PublicServer> Skasi: foaled
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10:10:20  <Nickman87> !players
10:10:21  <PublicServer> Nickman87: There are currently no clients connected to the server
10:17:02  <^Spike^> !info
10:17:02  <PublicServer> ^Spike^: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'OTTDC'  Year Founded: 1970  Money: 35166056  Loan: 0  Value: 35425542  (T:0, R:0, P:5, S:1) unprotected
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10:32:47  <Raiscan> !password
10:32:47  <PublicServer> Raiscan: fuzzed
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10:36:46  <J_Darnley> !password
10:36:46  <PublicServer> J_Darnley: elicit
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10:45:17  <[com]buster> !password
10:45:17  <PublicServer> [com]buster: elicit
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11:06:36  <V453000> !password
11:06:36  <PublicServer> V453000: pained
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11:09:25  <Ammler> !players
11:09:26  <PublicServer> Ammler: Client 80 (Orange) is J_Darnley, in company 1 (OTTDC)
11:09:26  <PublicServer> Ammler: Client 84 (Orange) is Combuster, in company 1 (OTTDC)
11:09:26  <PublicServer> Ammler: Client 86 (Orange) is V453000, in company 1 (OTTDC)
11:10:52  <[com]buster> Hi Ammler
11:11:31  <Ammler> Sali [com]buster :-)
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11:22:32  <Skasi> !players
11:22:34  <PublicServer> Skasi: Client 84 (Orange) is Combuster, in company 1 (OTTDC)
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11:23:02  <Skasi> !password
11:23:02  <PublicServer> Skasi: sidled
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11:29:28  <Nickman87> !players
11:29:29  <PublicServer> Nickman87: Client 87 (Orange) is Skasi, in company 1 (OTTDC)
11:29:29  <PublicServer> Nickman87: Client 84 (Orange) is Combuster, in company 1 (OTTDC)
11:29:29  <PublicServer> Nickman87: Client 86 (Orange) is V453000, in company 1 (OTTDC)
11:29:38  <Nickman87> !password
11:29:38  <PublicServer> Nickman87: sidled
11:30:00  <Nickman87> !password
11:30:00  <PublicServer> Nickman87: sidled
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11:37:02  <PublicServer> <Skasi> I want my Jazz Jukebox to play some music! :[
11:38:07  <Raiscan> !password
11:38:07  <PublicServer> Raiscan: cognac
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11:38:44  <Raiscan> Interesting, I got disconnected but my client didn't know
11:40:18  <planetmaker> timeout time
11:40:32  <Raiscan> it was like 30minutes though
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12:18:32  <Raiscan> !password
12:18:33  <PublicServer> Raiscan: trudge
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12:36:22  <nlhans> !password
12:36:22  <PublicServer> nlhans: slates
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12:40:24  <LittleBoyRick> !players
12:40:25  <PublicServer> LittleBoyRick: Client 97 (Orange) is Raiscan, in company 1 (OTTDC)
12:40:25  <PublicServer> LittleBoyRick: Client 99 is X-BT, a spectator
12:40:25  <PublicServer> LittleBoyRick: Client 84 (Orange) is Combuster, in company 1 (OTTDC)
12:40:30  <LittleBoyRick> !password
12:40:30  <PublicServer> LittleBoyRick: slates
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12:49:20  <olleman> !password
12:49:21  <PublicServer> olleman: slates
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12:57:32  <olleman> how soon does building start?
12:57:45  <PublicServer> <Combuster> With zero votes? not shortly
12:57:51  <PublicServer> <olleman> indeed
13:00:45  <ODM> i vote blank
13:01:06  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Create a plan if there's nothing intersting for you :)
13:01:19  <PublicServer> <Combuster> If you actually bothered to look :)
13:04:14  *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster
13:04:23  <Combuster> @stage Planning/Voting
13:04:24  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #153 (r16973) | STAGE: Planning/Voting | www.openttdcoop.org or www.openttdcoop.ammler.ch | Use !help for IRC-commands | Client record: 24 | Screenshots: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/img/ | Get a userpage if you don't have one yet | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder"
13:04:39  <Combuster> Maybe that helps :)
13:12:05  <ODM> i cant join dummy:p
13:12:19  <Combuster> ?
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13:21:34  <Nickman87> !players
13:21:36  <PublicServer> Nickman87: Client 97 (Orange) is Raiscan, in company 1 (OTTDC)
13:21:37  <PublicServer> Nickman87: Client 105 is olleman, a spectator
13:21:37  <PublicServer> Nickman87: Client 84 (Orange) is Combuster, in company 1 (OTTDC)
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13:40:54  <Tussengas> !dl
13:40:55  <PublicServer> Tussengas: !dl autostart|autottd|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x
13:46:58  <Tussengas> !dl autostart
13:46:58  <PublicServer> Tussengas: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Autostart
13:49:01  <Tussengas> !dl autoupdate
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13:52:12  <Tussengas> ok... i'm lost :p even after u use autottd, i still get 'wrong version' things and i got the grf package 7.3 but i still miss like 22 grf's wich i can't find
13:52:15  <PublicServer> Tussengas: http://www.openttdcoop.org/winupdater
13:52:27  <Tussengas> bot is cute :p
13:52:38  <PublicServer> <Combuster> There is a button in openttd
13:52:44  <PublicServer> <Combuster> "find missing content online"
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13:52:53  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Give it a try :)
13:52:55  <Ammler> and read !grf
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13:53:28  <Tussengas> i tried, but still 22 missing ;) but ill give !grf a try ;)
13:53:30  <Tussengas> !grf
13:53:30  <PublicServer> Tussengas: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/GRF (Version 7.3)
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13:54:10  <Ammler> Tussengas: specially "Notes"
13:54:15  <Tussengas> i have to get the last 22 al one-by-one? :(
13:54:39  <Raiscan> !dl grf
13:54:39  <PublicServer> Raiscan: unknown option "grf"
13:54:41  <Raiscan> aw
13:54:52  <Donyc> !password
13:54:53  <PublicServer> Donyc: gurgle
13:55:01  <PublicServer> <Combuster> I didn't have to download anything manually :/
13:55:25  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Is openttd actually finding the GRFpack?
13:55:36  <Tussengas> hmm, okey you know what... i uninstal openttd and start all over again :p
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13:56:06  <Tussengas> where did you download openttd? @ openttd.org?
13:56:10  <Raiscan> use an update manager
13:56:34  <Combuster> !download win32
13:56:35  <PublicServer> Combuster: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r16973/openttd-trunk-r16973-windows-win32.zip
13:56:40  <Combuster> there,
13:56:54  <Combuster> maybe a bit less automated
13:56:58  <Combuster> but not less useful
13:57:32  <Ammler> @quickstart
13:57:34  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Quickstart
13:57:50  <Ammler> Tussengas: do that and you are fine
13:57:57  <Ammler> if you have time do
13:58:00  <Ammler> @slowstart
13:58:00  <Webster> Read everything on the wiki, and I mean everything
13:58:05  <Tussengas> yeah, i've read that one :P but he still gave so many wmissing files :P
13:58:37  <Ammler> example for a missing file?
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13:58:49  <Ammler> !url
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13:59:29  <insulfrog> hi all
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13:59:37  <Maza> hi
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13:59:45  <PublicServer> Ammler: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/
14:00:59  <Tussengas> it says 'version mismatch' and in the grf settings i miss things like new company color, stolen trees, new bridges and so on
14:01:02  <insulfrog> !download win32
14:01:02  <PublicServer> insulfrog: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r16973/openttd-trunk-r16973-windows-win32.zip
14:01:27  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Then your GRFpack is someplace where OpenTTD doesn't look
14:02:21  <PublicServer> <Combuster> have you put it in c:\...\Openttd\Data\ (grfpack\...)
14:02:35  <Raiscan> !dl openttdau
14:02:35  <PublicServer> Raiscan: unknown option "openttdau"
14:02:52  <Raiscan> what's the openttd automatic downloader thing?
14:02:56  <Ammler> !dl
14:02:56  <PublicServer> Ammler: !dl autostart|autottd|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x
14:03:02  <PublicServer> <Combuster> BaNaNaS?
14:03:06  <Raiscan> autotd
14:03:11  <Raiscan> !dl autottd
14:03:11  <PublicServer> Raiscan: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/AutoTTD
14:03:24  <Ammler> autottd is a filter app
14:03:25  <Tussengas> ah, i fixed the version mismatch at least :P
14:03:40  <Raiscan> !dl autoupdate
14:03:40  <PublicServer> Raiscan: http://www.openttdcoop.org/winupdater
14:03:43  <Ammler> you have the whole server list and can chose which server you want
14:03:52  <Raiscan> that one sorry
14:03:55  <insulfrog> !grf
14:03:55  <PublicServer> insulfrog: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/GRF (Version 7.3)
14:03:57  <Ammler> then it does automatically download the right version
14:04:37  <Ammler> I would use it, if I would run a acient os, like windows.
14:04:53  <PublicServer> <Combuster> *cough*troll*cough*
14:04:58  <Ammler> :P
14:05:46  <insulfrog> !password
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14:06:37  <insulfrog> !password
14:08:13  <PublicServer> insulfrog: morale
14:08:14  <PublicServer> insulfrog: morale
14:08:20  <Maza> !password
14:08:20  <PublicServer> Maza: morale
14:08:25  <PublicServer> *** insulfrog joined the game
14:08:44  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Make a plan
14:08:48  <insulfrog> ah, a bit of a delayed rection there for the password
14:08:50  <PublicServer> <Combuster> I want something nice to vote for :)
14:09:11  <PublicServer> <Combuster> There's quite a bit of lag between the server and IRC...
14:09:24  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> ah, that explains it :)
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14:13:24  <Tussengas> finaly it seems to work :P
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14:13:56  <Tussengas> hmm, and there i should have changed my name :p
14:14:44  <PublicServer> <Player> /name tussengas
14:14:54  <Tussengas> hmm, doesnt work like that :P
14:15:00  <PublicServer> <Combuster> press ` first
14:15:12  <PublicServer> *** Player has changed his/her name to tussengas
14:15:18  <PublicServer> <tussengas> cool :P
14:15:19  <PublicServer> <Combuster> :)
14:15:32  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> hmm, I can't think of a plan here atm
14:15:57  <PublicServer> <tussengas> nice layout btw :P who designed this? :S
14:16:02  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> although, I may have a few ideas
14:16:03  <PublicServer> <Raiscan> which one?
14:16:19  <PublicServer> <Raiscan> names are above the layouts...
14:18:12  <PublicServer> <tussengas> well , it's my first time i log in on your map... and i have to say, intresting way of discussing with all those notes :)
14:19:53  <PublicServer> <tussengas> is this the map you guys started yesterday?
14:21:33  <Combuster> It probably is
14:21:46  <Combuster> (wasn't around then, but it can't be over a day old)
14:21:56  <KenjiE20> @coopstats
14:21:56  <Webster> http://hyru.ath.cx:60080/~kenji/ottdcoop/stats.html
14:22:11  <KenjiE20> yep, topic set yesterday
14:22:20  <PublicServer> <tussengas> how many days do you usualy take to finish a map?
14:22:31  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Depends
14:22:32  <KenjiE20> anywhere between 1 and 9000
14:22:54  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Worst case I've seen
14:22:57  <PublicServer> <Combuster> 3 weeks
14:22:57  <PublicServer> <tussengas> 9000 sounds quite well ;)
14:23:10  <PublicServer> <tussengas> but the server is paused when no one is playing right?
14:23:17  <PublicServer> <Combuster> it is
14:25:17  <PublicServer> <tussengas> guess i'd better check again when planning phase is over/more active
14:25:47  <PublicServer> <Combuster> There are already three plans
14:25:54  <PublicServer> <Combuster> The fourth will be done shortly
14:26:11  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Expect a gap of silence now
14:26:16  <PublicServer> <tussengas> :P
14:26:21  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Except for the "please vote" kicks from me :)
14:27:07  <PublicServer> <tussengas> well, tbh i don't entirely understand all plans :P
14:27:37  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Feel free to ask
14:28:30  <nlhans> !password
14:28:57  <PublicServer> nlhans: eloped
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14:29:06  <PublicServer> <tussengas> guess i should check the wiki again to remember what things like TL , PS/PW/FPP/OR/PM and such means
14:29:10  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Hi hans
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14:29:28  <Combuster> TL = Tile/Train length
14:29:36  <KenjiE20> Tussengas: some of those are in webster glossary
14:29:40  <Combuster> PS/PW/FPP/OR/PM are industries
14:29:48  <KenjiE20> the other's aren't listed anywhere at all
14:30:02  <PublicServer> <tussengas> webster glossary?
14:30:03  <KenjiE20> ^ what Combuster said
14:30:08  <KenjiE20> @glossary
14:30:08  <Webster> bananas, bbh, cl, coop, distantjoin, ecs, ecsvectors, ice, is, lb, ll, ml, mm, nars, pax, pbs, pf, prio, prios, ps, roro, rr, rv, rvs, setdef, sl, slh, sml, srnw, stationwalk, stationwalking, tf, tgv, TL, ttt, yapf, h2h, 2cc, psg, msh, 2tt, 3tt, firs
14:30:39  <PublicServer> <tussengas> and i can !ll with that?
14:30:41  <KenjiE20> *cough hack* Tea in lungs arg
14:30:56  <KenjiE20> Webster: != PublicServer
14:31:02  <Tussengas> !ll
14:31:03  <Combuster> @glossary TL
14:31:03  <Webster> bananas, bbh, cl, coop, distantjoin, ecs, ecsvectors, ice, is, lb, ll, ml, mm, nars, pax, pbs, pf, prio, prios, ps, roro, rr, rv, rvs, setdef, sl, slh, sml, srnw, stationwalk, stationwalking, tf, tgv, TL, ttt, yapf, h2h, 2cc, psg, msh, 2tt, 3tt, firs
14:31:13  <Combuster> @define TL
14:31:17  <KenjiE20> use those with a bot trigger
14:31:18  <^Spike^> @tl
14:31:18  <Webster> TrainLength. Indicating the amount of tiles a train occupies, see http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/User:Tim/Tilelength
14:31:22  <KenjiE20> like that
14:31:30  <KenjiE20> define: rr
14:31:30  <Webster> LL / RR or variations are indicating directions on a main- or sideline
14:31:38  <Tussengas> ah, a @ this time
14:31:43  <Combuster> LR, L_R, LLRR etc
14:32:34  <KenjiE20> @alias add fullhelp "webpage http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/User:KenjiE20/Webster"
14:32:34  <Webster> KenjiE20: The operation succeeded.
14:32:54  <PublicServer> <tussengas> ow btw... just i question i had while making a mainline in my own game yesterday... if i make a RR___LL... how do i manage the RR; cause my trains kept picking the same line all the time
14:32:55  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> what do you think of my plan so far?
14:33:06  <KenjiE20> that page has pretty much everything you need to know about webster
14:33:07  <^Spike^> signals help alot
14:33:14  <^Spike^> make them 1 way signals
14:33:24  <Combuster> An make sure both lanes are connected to all destinations
14:33:28  <^Spike^> yep
14:33:29  <^Spike^> that too
14:33:40  <^Spike^> but signals is the key in forcing trains on the other line on the way back :)
14:33:47  <^Spike^> !password
14:33:47  <PublicServer> ^Spike^: eloped
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14:34:39  <Tussengas> yeah, i got that part, but i with Ll___Rr they left l and r unused, but maybe not enough trains in the lines yet to use the 2nd
14:35:07  <Combuster> With little trains, that of course happens
14:35:23  <Tussengas> couldn't find a lot about how to manage a mainline @ your wiki
14:36:08  <Tussengas> define: h2h
14:36:11  <KenjiE20> it's not really something you can document
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14:36:26  <KenjiE20> if it were, the game would be boring
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14:36:40  <Tussengas> :P
14:36:54  <Combuster> h2h? head to head?
14:36:57  <Combuster> what context?
14:37:21  <Tussengas> i dunno, just saw it in the glossary list :P
14:37:29  <Combuster> @h2h
14:37:59  <KenjiE20> hmm
14:38:23  <Combuster> @define: h2h
14:38:26  * KenjiE20 feels a netsplit coming on
14:38:38  <KenjiE20> bot logs don't even show those commands
14:38:59  <Combuster> @alias h2h
14:38:59  <Webster> Head to Head 'coopetition' games, see http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Head-To-Head
14:38:59  <KenjiE20> oh wait, it got that last one
14:39:36  <PublicServer> <tussengas> why is a oil refinery called 'pm' :S
14:40:03  <Combuster> "Paper Mill" ?
14:40:16  <KenjiE20> oh I see, h2h RSS
14:40:21  <PublicServer> <tussengas> it's clearly no papermill ;p
14:40:53  <PublicServer> <Combuster> It used to be empty space
14:41:21  <PublicServer> <tussengas> ah, that refinery is new ? :)
14:41:24  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Vbignumber had posted a lot of "this goes here" signs
14:41:25  <KenjiE20> if it's part of a plan, ignore what's under the sign
14:41:38  <KenjiE20> (unless its the plan itself)
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14:42:56  <PublicServer> <tussengas> @pax
14:43:11  <PublicServer> <tussengas> hmm, still don't the hang of that bot... what is pax?
14:43:16  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> passenger
14:43:18  <[com]buster> its a real term
14:43:30  <[com]buster> passengers/mail
14:43:41  <KenjiE20> you can't trigger Webster from the game
14:43:47  <KenjiE20> if you read IRC you'll see why
14:44:07  <Tussengas> hmm, okey :P
14:44:10  <Tussengas> @pax
14:44:10  <Webster> PAX stand for Passengers and is, as an abbreviation, widely known and used in the transportation business.
14:44:44  <Tussengas> well, i'm from an not englisch-speaking country... so not all 'common' abbreviations are common to me ;)
14:45:06  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Your typos look dutch
14:45:24  <Tussengas> and damn proud of it :P
14:46:20  <Tussengas> btw, my typos or my nickname?
14:47:24  <[com]buster> Your nick might have been german...
14:47:28  <planetmaker> your host mask :-P
14:47:34  <[com]buster> that certainly
14:47:46  <planetmaker> oh, a combuster :-) Long time no seen :-)
14:47:59  <[com]buster> Didn't look at it before making the guess though :)
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14:48:24  <Combuster> pm: that's what you get from camping
14:48:25  <Tussengas> hmm... /whois tussengas says telfort.nl... not fair :P
14:48:31  <KenjiE20> fixed @h2h now
14:48:36  <Combuster> @h2h
14:48:36  <Webster> Head to Head 'coopetition' games, see http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Head-To-Head
14:48:41  <Combuster> check
14:48:43  <Combuster> :)
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14:50:37  <Ammler> a bit outdated wiki page :-)
14:50:48  <PublicServer> <tussengas> looks nice insul
14:51:13  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> thanks
14:52:20  <Tussengas> @pw
14:52:30  <Tussengas> wich industry is pw?
14:53:02  <KenjiE20> printing works
14:53:02  <PublicServer> <Combuster> printing works
14:53:06  <PublicServer> <tussengas> ty
14:53:18  <KenjiE20> 15:53:07 lol, down to the second
14:54:56  <PublicServer> <tussengas> guess my vote won't count?
14:55:10  <PublicServer> <Combuster> It will count
14:55:17  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Everybody's vote counts
14:55:23  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> every vote will count :)
14:55:44  <PublicServer> <tussengas> okey, will try to put my name-note on the right place :P
14:56:17  <PublicServer> <Combuster> There's only one voting rule: no voting for your own plan :)
14:56:33  <PublicServer> <tussengas> nearly the right spot :p
14:57:12  <PublicServer> <tussengas> ty for editting
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14:58:14  <PublicServer> <tussengas> hmm, maybe i also should do that
14:58:37  <PublicServer> <tussengas> is there a console command for switching to spectator
14:58:52  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Under the top-hat button
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15:01:47  <PublicServer> <tussengas> so basicly... when people started this map... the putted 2 towns into the water to make space for planning and such?
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15:04:50  <V453000> !password
15:04:50  <PublicServer> V453000: hectic
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15:08:50  <Tussengas> btw... is it posible to delete just 1 part of a station?
15:09:03  <Tussengas> cause when i use dynamite, everything explodes
15:09:09  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> yes.  select the station tool, then the removal tool, then click on the tile you want to remove
15:09:28  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> you can also select the station tool, then hit R (keyboard shortcut) to toggle the removal state
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15:10:32  <Tussengas> ty
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15:12:20  <Combuster> keyboard only:
15:12:24  <Combuster> A-9-R
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15:12:48  <Combuster> used that shortcut a few times too often :)
15:13:00  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> I didn't even know about the A shortcut - very helpful!
15:13:10  <Combuster> A = autorail :)
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15:16:55  <Nickman87> !players
15:16:57  <PublicServer> Nickman87: Client 97 (Orange) is Raiscan, in company 1 (OTTDC)
15:16:57  <PublicServer> Nickman87: Client 114 (Orange) is insulfrog, in company 1 (OTTDC)
15:16:57  <PublicServer> Nickman87: Client 120 (Orange) is Thraxian|Work, in company 1 (OTTDC)
15:17:18  <Nickman87> !password
15:17:18  <PublicServer> Nickman87: floras
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15:32:24  <raWt> !dl win32
15:32:24  <PublicServer> raWt: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r16973/openttd-trunk-r16973-windows-win32.zip
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15:34:32  <Mark> 'lo folks
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15:42:10  <Mark> !password
15:42:10  <PublicServer> Mark: flails
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15:42:35  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> hi Mark
15:42:52  <PublicServer> <Mark> hello
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15:43:26  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> wb Mark - how was your trip?
15:43:37  <PublicServer> <Mark> good :)
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15:46:41  <PublicServer> <Mark> insulfrog: do the two tracks next to each mean LLRR_LLRR or LLRR?
15:46:53  <PublicServer> <Mark> next to each other*
15:47:00  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> no
15:47:09  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> it just means LLRR
15:47:12  <PublicServer> <Mark> k
15:47:14  <PublicServer> <Mark> good
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15:48:13  <PublicServer> <Mark> bah mandatory eye-candy
15:49:13  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> my plan doesn't involve eye candy and its just a simple plan
15:49:32  <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah but your mainlines are too small :P
15:49:44  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> I don't think eyecandy should be specifically planned - it will happen regardless
15:49:58  <PublicServer> <Mark> indeed
15:50:02  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> (even when we don't want it to!)
15:50:31  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> making a note that a station will be a good candidate for eyecandy is fine - but specifically putting eyecandy on a plan is a bit superfluous
15:50:41  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> the reason why i have small main lines is because of limited build space
15:50:54  <PublicServer> <Mark> they'll have to be bigger
15:50:55  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> yeah - I tried to address that in my plan
15:51:12  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> I'm sure it won't be popular - at least I think it won't :)
15:51:15  <PublicServer> <Mark> i'd go for wider mainlines and shorter trains
15:51:21  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> but there it is for consideration....
15:52:48  <PublicServer> <Mark> insulfrog: imo your TL is too long
15:53:12  <PublicServer> <Mark> heh
15:53:28  <PublicServer> <Mark> it's a bit un-democratic to change your plan if you already have votes :P
15:53:38  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> heh
15:57:39  <Nickman87> !password
15:57:39  <PublicServer> Nickman87: hamper
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16:06:13  <PublicServer> <Mark> dinner + driving lessons
16:06:16  <PublicServer> <Mark> cya tonight
16:06:47  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> right, i gotta go myself, cyas :)
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16:08:41  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> Mark: if you're still here, you might want to reconsider that wood station
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16:21:08  <satyap> !password
16:21:08  <PublicServer> satyap: hobbit
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16:26:21  <Skasi> !players
16:26:22  <PublicServer> Skasi: Client 97 (Orange) is Raiscan, in company 1 (OTTDC)
16:26:22  <PublicServer> Skasi: Client 135 (Orange) is satyap, in company 1 (OTTDC)
16:26:22  <PublicServer> Skasi: Client 125 is Mark, a spectator
16:26:23  <PublicServer> Skasi: Client 131 (Orange) is raWt, in company 1 (OTTDC)
16:26:23  <PublicServer> Skasi: Client 133 (Orange) is Nickman, in company 1 (OTTDC)
16:26:23  <PublicServer> Skasi: Client 136 (Orange) is Skasi, in company 1 (OTTDC)
16:26:27  <Skasi> !password
16:26:27  <PublicServer> Skasi: hobbit
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16:29:02  <PublicServer> <Mark> ..so no driving lessons
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16:29:17  <PublicServer> <Mark> Thrax: good point :)
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16:38:06  <PublicServer> <Skasi> hmm.. know what? ships cargo capacity is MUCH too small
16:39:09  <PublicServer> <Skasi> their TL, etc. too :(
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16:40:40  <Mark> the scale of pretty much everything is off
16:41:52  <Skasi> yes, but the part with ships is what I hate most about it.. I want them to be usable to transport stuff around
16:42:22  <Skasi> it would be great if we could use them to transport stuff to the western island
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17:04:28  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Ewwww
17:04:33  <PublicServer> <Combuster> TL3 SML
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17:07:04  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> ... a de-activated DBXL set?!
17:08:48  <PublicServer> <Combuster> I already wondered who though original vehicles to be a nice thing
17:09:07  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> sure. why not
17:09:22  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker>  but the newgrf selection is a fail :-)
17:09:39  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> having unnecessary dependencies this way
17:10:14  <Raiscan> !password
17:10:14  <PublicServer> Raiscan: chords
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17:11:04  <PublicServer> * Combuster feels like dragging the convert-to-monorail tool over some plans
17:11:13  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> :-)
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17:11:55  <PublicServer> <Raiscan> not sure about TL of 6 for insulfrog's plan...
17:12:20  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Even so
17:12:29  <PublicServer> <Raiscan> it does look pretty good though
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17:12:32  <PublicServer> <Combuster> I think it still beats the other plans
17:12:37  <PublicServer> <Raiscan> yeah
17:12:41  <PublicServer> <Combuster> except my own :)
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17:13:42  <^Spike^> !password
17:13:42  <PublicServer> ^Spike^: chords
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17:18:26  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Thanks pm
17:18:33  <planetmaker> :-)
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17:20:59  <Ammler> [19:09] <PublicServer> <Combuster> I already wondered who though original vehicles to be a nice thing <-- LOL
17:21:18  <Ammler> nice excuse, when scenario creator failed ;-)
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17:22:40  <planetmaker> actually I think indeed it's a nice thing to have from time to time. Maybe even more often.
17:22:50  <planetmaker> But the intentions obviously were different :-P
17:23:02  <PublicServer> <satyap> man i hate the arctic maps
17:23:22  <planetmaker> pro'ly best climate, though :-)
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17:23:30  <planetmaker> Though I start to fancy tropical as much, too
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17:24:06  <Combuster> tropical pax games ftw :)
17:24:25  <Aali> TRS is probably my favorite trainset for cargo
17:24:28  <planetmaker> could be quite a nice thing IMO. One of the best
17:24:33  <Aali> with wagon speed limits
17:24:39  <Aali> not great for coop though
17:24:41  <planetmaker> TRS?
17:24:46  <planetmaker> nvm
17:24:48  <PublicServer> <Raiscan> how many votes do you guys usually wait for before you decide?
17:24:57  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Depends
17:24:58  <planetmaker> until it's kinda clear
17:25:08  <PublicServer> <Combuster> vast majority is usually enough to declare winner
17:25:13  <PublicServer> <Raiscan> I see
17:25:16  <planetmaker> a dozen is a rough figure
17:25:21  <XeryusTC> hello there
17:25:29  <planetmaker> hello here :-P
17:25:31  <Combuster> Hey Xeryus
17:25:36  <XeryusTC> long time no see :P
17:25:37  <Raiscan> hi
17:25:49  <Combuster> check your ladder team ;)
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17:27:06  <XeryusTC> Combuster: added :P
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17:43:04  <Tussengas> what are the votes saying atm?
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18:11:33  <XeryusTC> @topic
18:11:33  <Webster> XeryusTC: Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #153 (r16973) | STAGE: Planning/Voting | www.openttdcoop.org or www.openttdcoop.ammler.ch | Use !help for IRC-commands | Client record: 24 | Screenshots: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/img/ | Get a userpage if you don't have one yet | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder
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18:16:54  <Nickman87> !players
18:16:55  <PublicServer> Nickman87: Client 135 (Orange) is satyap, in company 1 (OTTDC)
18:16:55  <PublicServer> Nickman87: Client 125 is Mark, a spectator
18:16:55  <PublicServer> Nickman87: Client 131 (Orange) is raWt, in company 1 (OTTDC)
18:16:55  <PublicServer> Nickman87: Client 147 is Combuster, a spectator
18:17:20  <Nickman87> no archive of last game yet?
18:27:56  <Skasi> !password
18:27:56  <PublicServer> Skasi: wining
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18:28:17  <Skasi> aah! I had two votes! now none! :(
18:28:27  <Skasi> but my plan is so grrreat
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18:29:45  <Skasi> Votes: insulfrog has 4 votes; Combuster 3 and all others 1, or 0
18:32:22  <PublicServer> <Mark> evening
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18:32:38  <Tussengas> ty skas
18:32:47  <PublicServer> <Mark> that MM will screw up the industry balance quite a bit on such a small map
18:32:55  <PublicServer> <Mark> hence why it says "MM is done"
18:33:58  <Skasi> Now go gimmie your vote, Tussengas! :)
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18:34:39  <Tussengas> sorry, i prefered (with all my exp *cough*) the one from insul
18:35:01  <PublicServer> <Mark> i made this map btw
18:35:06  <PublicServer> <Mark> not sure why i loaded dbset
18:35:14  <PublicServer> <Mark> intented to load ukrs
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18:36:57  <insulfrog> !password
18:36:57  <PublicServer> insulfrog: purges
18:37:00  <Tussengas> ty :p
18:37:05  <Tussengas> i was just about to do that
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18:38:13  <insulfrog> !players
18:38:14  <PublicServer> <Kenji> industry MM :(
18:38:15  <PublicServer> insulfrog: Client 135 (Orange) is satyap, in company 1 (OTTDC)
18:38:15  <PublicServer> insulfrog: Client 125 (Orange) is Mark, in company 1 (OTTDC)
18:38:15  <PublicServer> insulfrog: Client 131 (Orange) is raWt, in company 1 (OTTDC)
18:38:15  <PublicServer> insulfrog: Client 150 (Orange) is Kenji, in company 1 (OTTDC)
18:38:15  <PublicServer> insulfrog: Client 153 (Orange) is insulfrog, in company 1 (OTTDC)
18:38:17  <PublicServer> insulfrog: Client 147 is Combuster, a spectator
18:38:17  <PublicServer> insulfrog: Client 154 (Orange) is tussengas, in company 1 (OTTDC)
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18:42:18  <PublicServer> <tussengas> poor aircraft 1 -2 :P
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18:43:55  <satyap> oh god who put in frikking canals
18:44:05  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> hi
18:44:35  <PublicServer> <tussengas> canals? where?
18:44:44  <PublicServer> <satyap> on the plans
18:45:32  <PublicServer> <tussengas> was allready like this when i first saw it 4 PM CET
18:45:43  <Mark> who declared the winner?
18:46:04  <PublicServer> <satyap> me. bad?
18:46:17  <PublicServer> * satyap takes it out again
18:46:30  <PublicServer> <satyap> 15k per canal tile. sigh.
18:46:32  <Mark> only members can declare winners
18:46:45  <satyap> ah, ok. can i say "winner?" ?
18:47:07  <PublicServer> <satyap> didn't know that was a rule
18:47:22  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> When do you want the voting to 'end'?
18:47:31  <Mark> when it's done
18:47:39  <Mark> seems done now
18:47:42  <Mark> insulfrog wins :P
18:47:53  <PublicServer> <satyap> yay
18:47:54  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> yay \o/
18:48:12  <PublicServer> <satyap> say /mark on the winner sign :)
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18:48:24  <PublicServer> * satyap starts building PS/pax drop
18:48:53  <PublicServer> <satyap> ... is the ML 2-lane or 3-lane?
18:49:00  <PublicServer> <satyap> signs say LLRR as well as LLLRRR
18:49:24  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> its 2 lane all round and where i got 2 track on my plan, its 3 lane
18:49:39  <PublicServer> <satyap> umm, ok
18:49:50  <PublicServer> <satyap> where do you want pax terminal south?
18:49:53  <PublicServer> <satyap> he MM airport?
18:50:06  <PublicServer> <satyap> how about frogshead?
18:50:40  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> on my plan, i got 1 in the south and got 2 in the north, where you see 2 towns close by at each 'point'
18:51:01  <PublicServer> <satyap> alright, i'll put it on the MM airport in the south
18:52:40  <Tussengas> btw, what do i have to do if a train crashed? will it take long till they dissappear? (not on the openttdcoop)
18:53:21  <planetmaker>  30 days
18:58:05  <Raiscan> !password
18:58:05  <PublicServer> Raiscan: bugled
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19:00:57  <Nickman87> !password
19:00:57  <PublicServer> Nickman87: bugled
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19:01:27  <PublicServer> <Nickman> so, we have a winner already?
19:01:34  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Apparently we do
19:01:55  <PublicServer> <Raiscan> what about TL?
19:02:01  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Dunno who declared the winner :/
19:02:11  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> Mark did
19:02:21  <Combuster> I noticed
19:02:28  <Combuster> @stage Building
19:02:28  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #153 (r16973) | STAGE: Building | www.openttdcoop.org or www.openttdcoop.ammler.ch | Use !help for IRC-commands | Client record: 24 | Screenshots: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/img/ | Get a userpage if you don't have one yet | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder"
19:02:53  <PublicServer> *** Combuster has joined company #1
19:03:50  <PublicServer> <Nickman> so, insulfrog, start marking your hubs and stations ;)
19:04:19  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> i will do when towns start accepting you :)
19:04:35  <PublicServer> <Nickman> what? :D
19:04:48  <PublicServer> <Raiscan> tree them all!
19:05:02  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> Fizzleworth is the worst :p
19:05:15  <planetmaker> who won?
19:05:19  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> me
19:05:26  <planetmaker> congraz :-)
19:05:29  <satyap> !tunnel 19 6
19:05:29  <PublicServer> satyap: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 19 and gap 6.
19:05:30  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> ty
19:05:33  <planetmaker> your plan was my 2nd choice :-)
19:05:36  <satyap> !tunnel 6 19
19:05:37  <PublicServer> satyap: You need 3 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 6 and gap 19.
19:05:48  <PublicServer> <Combuster> insulfrog: the ring around magic mountain is LLRR, right?
19:05:49  <PublicServer> <Nickman> so you need 3 :)
19:06:01  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> yep
19:06:21  <PublicServer> <Combuster> I'll start with that BBH then
19:07:39  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> remember that you are allowed to some degree of terraform - to make land for stations and junctions
19:07:58  <PublicServer> <Nickman> so, we need a station on top of the mountain?
19:09:00  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> well, its the 'goods distribution centre' for the big 3 pax stations when the stations start accepting goods
19:11:45  <PublicServer> <Nickman> so, all goods will be transfered to mountain top?
19:12:44  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> goods and food, not other freight
19:12:59  <PublicServer> <Nickman> but DROP or transfer you mean?
19:13:14  <satyap> i think he means transfer
19:13:53  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> its not classed as a drop, but as a main 'customs' centre if you like
19:14:08  <PublicServer> <satyap> yes, that's "transfer"
19:14:13  <PublicServer> <Nickman> I'll build a station, you take care of the orders :D
19:14:19  <PublicServer> <satyap> combuster: do you see the ML to the south?
19:14:25  <PublicServer> <Nickman> so, Its single way? from west to east?
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19:15:34  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> the station is 'bi directional' so trains can come from either direction
19:15:44  <PublicServer> <Nickman> oh, ok, PBS it is then :D
19:17:32  <^Spike^> !password
19:17:32  <PublicServer> ^Spike^: radish
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19:21:39  <PublicServer> <Nickman> what CL do we need?
19:21:51  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> CL?
19:21:55  <PublicServer> <Nickman> Curve Length
19:22:17  <PublicServer> <Nickman> Combustor?
19:23:34  <PublicServer> <raWt> hi, starting building  I see
19:24:41  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> CL would be 6 for any TL6 over 274 km/h
19:24:52  <PublicServer> <Nickman> pfff, that huge! :D
19:25:00  <satyap> yeah :(
19:25:07  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> both the pegasus and chimera (lev3/lev4) will be that fast
19:25:08  <satyap> in mountains it means medium tera at least
19:25:18  <satyap> we're doing monorail
19:25:36  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> oops...
19:25:41  <PublicServer> <satyap> yeah :(
19:25:46  <PublicServer> <Nickman> so, still CL 6?
19:25:59  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> speeds are 190 and 201 for the two mono engines
19:26:01  <PublicServer> <Combuster> AFAIK, yes
19:26:05  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> thats why i said light to medium terra, so that means med terra where needed but little elsewhere
19:26:07  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> so CL4 would be enough
19:26:17  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> CL3 is limited to 198
19:26:26  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> http://wiki.openttd.org/Speed#Vehicle_speeds
19:26:44  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> if that chart is accurate, anyways :)
19:27:57  <PublicServer> <Raiscan> someone killed MM?
19:28:22  <PublicServer> <Combuster> It appears so
19:28:34  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Some train stuff removed
19:29:02  <PublicServer> <Nickman> so CL 4?
19:29:15  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> insulfrog, before you do too much more
19:29:19  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> arround 3-4 should suffice
19:29:23  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> yes
19:29:24  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> keep in mind your CL and sync
19:30:18  <satyap> yes, i've been keeping CL5 but if we can relax it, that'll be wonderful
19:30:32  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> see notes at message board in-game
19:30:34  <PublicServer> <Combuster> I've been doing CL6
19:30:55  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> agh....
19:30:57  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> wrong!
19:31:01  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> me, that is
19:31:11  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> I was mixing mph and km/h
19:31:21  <PublicServer> <Nickman> so? :D
19:31:22  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> lol
19:31:24  <PublicServer> <Nickman> CL5?
19:31:32  <PublicServer> <Nickman> or 6?
19:31:55  <PublicServer> <Combuster> 4 is not enough
19:32:00  <PublicServer> <satyap> i've got CL4 in one place
19:32:03  <PublicServer> <Mark> back
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19:32:15  <PublicServer> <Nickman> mark, help us out on the CL :D
19:32:16  <Mark> @monocl 336
19:32:16  <Webster> CL 10.354 required for monorail at speed 336km/h (or TL if it's shorter)
19:32:23  <PublicServer> <Nickman> so 6?
19:32:24  <PublicServer> <Nickman> :)
19:32:26  <Mark> it is 336 right?
19:32:28  <satyap> yep :(
19:32:45  <Raiscan> bribing is an okay thing to do, right? trying to fix the MM
19:32:49  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> message board updated...
19:32:50  <PublicServer> <satyap> 305 and 337 km/h
19:32:57  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> CL6 is correct
19:33:26  <PublicServer> <satyap> why do i see 337km/h?
19:33:32  <PublicServer> <Mark> we usually use 2 single locs instead of one dual-head with mrail
19:33:48  <PublicServer> <Mark> so the 305 one
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19:34:01  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Does that still work with 12-wagon trains
19:34:19  <PublicServer> <Mark> i'd use 3 or 4 X2001s
19:34:38  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> with CL8, we could use any length train that uses the X2001.  Since we are only TL6, we can reduce CL to 6
19:34:57  <Mark> @monocl 305
19:34:57  <Webster> CL 7.74 required for monorail at speed 305km/h (or TL if it's shorter)
19:36:53  <PublicServer> <Raiscan> fixed MM
19:37:05  <PublicServer> <satyap> Combuster: can i attach to the south side of your hub?
19:37:12  <PublicServer> <satyap> n/m, i'll wait
19:38:44  <PublicServer> <Mark> so we have feeders for the pax terminals?
19:39:13  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> question: is south pax in the right spot?  I thought it would be near Toggleton, looking at the plan....
19:39:46  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> I have been wondering that myself
19:39:52  <satyap> well sheesh i asked you
19:40:08  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> that station could be the paper mill...
19:40:23  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> well....almost :)
19:40:36  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> yeah, it ment to be near Rattlepool and Cheekywick
19:40:38  <PublicServer> <satyap> it makes even less sense as the paper mill
19:41:11  <satyap> PublicServer: <satyap> alright, i'll put it on the MM airport in the south
19:41:22  <PublicServer> <Nickman> I hate big CL...
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19:43:26  <satyap> !tunnel 6 31
19:43:26  <PublicServer> satyap: You need 5 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 6 and gap 31.
19:44:22  <PublicServer> <satyap> so are we detrsoying the station at !remove?
19:45:06  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> yes, as there ment to be a huge rail river crossing near there
19:46:15  <PublicServer> <Raiscan> remove with bulldozer though, not bomb
19:46:31  <PublicServer> <Raiscan> now you've killed MM south >_<
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19:47:28  <satyap> yeah i give up
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19:50:16  <PublicServer> <Mark> so south pax will be at Cheekywick?
19:50:17  *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Taborda
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19:50:22  <Taborda> hi guys
19:50:25  *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v satyap
19:50:27  <PublicServer> <Mark> hello
19:50:29  <PublicServer> <Raiscan> hi
19:50:35  <satyap> !password
19:50:35  <PublicServer> satyap: ridged
19:50:38  <PublicServer> <Mark> and welcome
19:50:39  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> well, it is according to the plan
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19:50:46  <Taborda> :)
19:50:57  <Taborda> i wanted to join the publicserver
19:51:04  <KenjiE20> @quickstart
19:51:06  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Quickstart
19:51:09  <PublicServer> <Mark> insulfrog: got a TL/railtype for local?
19:51:11  <Taborda> but i have one grp that i cant download
19:51:19  <Taborda> :(
19:51:32  <satyap> insulfrog: when you say terminal, you mean terminal, or ro-ro?
19:51:46  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> either
19:51:55  <PublicServer> <Mark> the word is terminus
19:52:13  <planetmaker> Taborda: where did you then try to download?
19:52:13  <PublicServer> <Mark> terminal is like a main hub fed by surrounding towns
19:52:25  <planetmaker> @bananas
19:52:25  <Webster> BaNaNaS is a content service, which services Base graphics And Newgrfs And Noais And Scenarios, see: http://wiki.openttd.org/Online_content
19:52:26  <PublicServer> <satyap> your english is better than mine, mark
19:52:33  <planetmaker> @grf
19:52:35  <PublicServer> <Raiscan> should the river crossing be high?
19:52:37  <planetmaker> !grf
19:52:37  <PublicServer> planetmaker: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/GRF (Version 7.3)
19:52:45  <Taborda> i downloaded the pack from the site
19:52:59  <planetmaker> you'll need to check out the online content, too
19:53:12  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> it can be a bridge, terra a 'plain' acrross and do it that way, doesn't matter
19:53:20  <Taborda> it says version mismatch
19:53:29  <Taborda> do i need to update the gam?
19:53:35  <PublicServer> <satyap> yes
19:53:43  <planetmaker> yeah. But you should be able to get the correct version of the grf via online content download
19:53:45  <KenjiE20> @quickstart
19:53:47  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Quickstart
19:53:57  <Taborda> yes
19:53:59  <Taborda> i downloaded all
19:54:00  <planetmaker> Taborda: version mismatch?
19:54:11  <planetmaker> of OpenTTD? A red or a yellow blob?
19:54:12  <Taborda> i see now that the grp from yesterday is working now lol
19:54:28  <Taborda> when i select the publicserver
19:54:39  <Taborda> it says version mismatch on the info of the server
19:55:19  <PublicServer> <Spike> no magic...
19:55:27  <planetmaker> !revision
19:55:27  <PublicServer> planetmaker: Game version is r16973
19:55:34  <planetmaker> ^ you got that OpenTTD version?
19:55:46  <Taborda> wait i will see
19:55:52  <Taborda> its from svn?
19:55:55  <Mark> !tunnels 5 13
19:55:55  <PublicServer> Mark: You need 3 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 5 and gap 13.
19:55:59  <Mark> !tunnels 5 12
19:55:59  <PublicServer> Mark: You need 3 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 5 and gap 12.
19:56:00  <Mark> !tunnels 5 11
19:56:00  <PublicServer> Mark: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 5 and gap 11.
19:56:09  <KenjiE20> @quickstart
19:56:12  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Quickstart
19:56:24  <planetmaker> Taborda: I guess really read the page :-)
19:56:26  <planetmaker> Entirely
19:57:11  <Taborda> i use the version that my distribution have
19:57:18  <Taborda> openttd 0.7.1
19:57:35  <Taborda> im updating to 0.7.2
19:58:13  <PublicServer> <Mark> we're too cool to use stables
19:58:47  <Mark> !tunnles 5 57
19:58:52  <Mark> !tunnels 5 57
19:58:52  <PublicServer> Mark: You need 9 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 5 and gap 57.
19:59:01  <Mark> !tunnels 5 41
19:59:01  <PublicServer> Mark: You need 7 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 5 and gap 41.
19:59:05  <Mark> !tunnels 5 40
19:59:05  <PublicServer> Mark: You need 7 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 5 and gap 40.
19:59:11  <insulfrog> remember Taborda that the openttdcoop server uses a 'Nightly' build of OTTD
20:02:37  <Taborda> !lin
20:02:38  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> hehe - neat bridge on TwoTownIsland
20:02:38  <PublicServer> <Raiscan> not quite sure what you want with the bridges :/
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20:02:46  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> love the little question marks
20:02:51  <Taborda> !dl lin
20:02:51  <PublicServer> Taborda: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r16973/openttd-trunk-r16973-linux-generic-i686.tar.bz2
20:03:01  <Taborda> they have svn?
20:03:02  <PublicServer> <Mark> hmm
20:03:23  <PublicServer> <satyap> yes taborda
20:03:29  <Taborda> i found
20:03:32  <Taborda> dont worry :p
20:03:38  <Taborda> its better with svn
20:03:42  <Taborda> to update
20:04:20  <satyap> !dl svn
20:04:21  <PublicServer> satyap: unknown option "svn"
20:04:23  <satyap> !dl
20:04:23  <PublicServer> satyap: !dl autostart|autottd|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x
20:04:31  <satyap> !dl autostart is what you want i think
20:04:32  <PublicServer> satyap: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Autostart
20:06:06  <PublicServer> <Raiscan> what was CL?
20:06:24  <PublicServer> <Combuster> 6
20:06:25  <PublicServer> <Nickman> 6... :(
20:06:31  <PublicServer> <Raiscan> ouch
20:06:34  <Taborda> nice
20:06:48  <PublicServer> <Combuster> You voted for the plan ;)
20:06:54  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> curve length sign floated to top of sign list :)
20:07:00  <PublicServer> <Nickman> I didn't!
20:07:15  <PublicServer> <Nickman> I wanted TL2 or so :(
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20:07:23  <V453000> !password
20:07:23  <PublicServer> V453000: towels
20:07:35  <PublicServer> <Nickman> nice hub Combuster ;)
20:07:47  <PublicServer> <satyap> yeah
20:07:59  <PublicServer> <satyap> Combuster is hubmaster
20:08:00  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Its horribly out of alignment with the other end of the island
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20:08:27  <PublicServer> <Nickman> what do you mean?
20:08:38  <satyap> hmph.
20:08:40  <PublicServer> <Nickman> you men the south connection?
20:08:43  <PublicServer> <Nickman> trough the hills?
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20:08:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi guys
20:09:17  <PublicServer> <Nickman> don't think we'll have lots of island room left after the ML is build...
20:09:30  <PublicServer> <Combuster> ghehehe no.
20:09:45  <PublicServer> <Nickman> it is way to huge...
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20:09:53  <PublicServer> <tneo> lo
20:10:00  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> hi tneo
20:10:07  <PublicServer> <Mark> ahoy tneo
20:10:13  <PublicServer> <Combuster> hey tneo
20:10:31  <PublicServer> <Nickman> you have to many exit and entry lines Combuster :D
20:11:06  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Got one separator left to do
20:11:07  <PublicServer> <Nickman> and tolittle signs :D
20:11:28  <PublicServer> <Nickman> ah, indeed 4 lines
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20:12:38  <PublicServer> <Nickman> but there arn't any 3 line tracks behind your hub? 0_o
20:13:27  <satyap> !tunnel 16 6
20:13:27  <PublicServer> satyap: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 16 and gap 6.
20:13:30  <satyap> !tunnel 6 16
20:13:31  <PublicServer> satyap: You need 3 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 6 and gap 16.
20:13:35  <satyap> !tunnel 6 8
20:13:35  <PublicServer> satyap: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 6 and gap 8.
20:14:17  <PublicServer> <Mark> im off
20:14:18  <Taborda> !help
20:14:18  <PublicServer> Taborda: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands
20:14:19  <PublicServer> <Mark> 'night
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20:14:25  <PublicServer> <Nickman> night
20:14:28  <PublicServer> <tneo> night mark
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20:17:03  <Taborda> what is that tunnel for?
20:17:10  <Taborda> dont understand the concept
20:17:14  <PublicServer> <Nickman> print works terminal to?
20:17:26  <PublicServer> <Raiscan> why are the bridges being reduced to south pax?
20:17:43  <PublicServer> <satyap> so that the CL can be 6 when the bridges end
20:18:24  <PublicServer> <Nickman> lol
20:18:28  <PublicServer> <Nickman> where you want to do that? :D
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20:18:45  <PublicServer> <satyap> someone has already done it
20:18:52  <PublicServer> <satyap> with 5 tunnels
20:19:01  <PublicServer> <Nickman> indeed :D
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20:19:06  <PublicServer> <Nickman> one to little?
20:19:15  <tneo> that is a nice concept there
20:19:16  <PublicServer> <Nickman> make another level?
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20:19:54  <PublicServer> * Spike likes those tunnels :D
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20:19:56  <PublicServer> <satyap> sure why not
20:19:57  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> Combuster, you still around?
20:20:01  <PublicServer> <Spike> nice and compact :)
20:20:07  <PublicServer> <Nickman> indeed
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20:20:22  <PublicServer> <Nickman> I'm not sure about the connections down south though...
20:20:30  <PublicServer> <Nickman> only one direction?
20:20:31  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Thrax: i am
20:20:33  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> specifically which hub on the plan is the one you are building?
20:20:36  <PublicServer> * Spike sees question mark bridges @ fairyworth valley
20:20:44  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> just curious - so I can build accordingly
20:20:53  <PublicServer> <Combuster> The hub that connects the ring to the LLLRRR southbound
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20:20:57  <PublicServer> <Nickman> Fairyworth Valley not terminus then?
20:21:11  <PublicServer> <Spike> i mean the road bridge across entrance/exit
20:21:15  <V453000> wow
20:21:16  <PublicServer> <Spike> i see some question marks
20:21:21  <V453000> my connection is dead :D
20:21:23  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> kk - so food plant loop doesn't go by Sligglesbury, right?
20:21:25  <PublicServer> <Nickman> haha, missing sprites?
20:21:26  <V453000> hf guys
20:21:28  <satyap> what's with the question marks?
20:21:29  <PublicServer> <Spike> :)
20:21:55  <Taborda> its giving me errors when compiling
20:21:58  <Taborda> :(
20:21:58  <PublicServer> <satyap> and apparently that's not the ML
20:22:08  <satyap> Taborda: try this
20:22:09  <PublicServer> <Nickman> with the current connection, it cannot be a terminal station there?
20:22:10  <satyap> !dl
20:22:10  <PublicServer> satyap: !dl autostart|autottd|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x
20:22:19  <Taborda> !dl autostart
20:22:19  <PublicServer> Taborda: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Autostart
20:22:22  <Taborda> yes im using this
20:22:23  <satyap> no that needs to be the ML return for south pax
20:22:24  <Taborda> using svn
20:22:33  <satyap> try !dl lin
20:22:37  <satyap> or whatever your platform is
20:22:59  <PublicServer> <Combuster> k, got the hub done
20:23:03  <PublicServer> <Nickman> can't anyone see the problem at Fairyworth vally's connection?
20:24:07  <PublicServer> <Combuster> TL5 vs TL6?
20:24:18  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> there are short CLs all over the rails built
20:24:20  <PublicServer> <Nickman> lol, :D
20:24:24  <PublicServer> <Nickman> indeed
20:24:25  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> they'll show up eventually
20:24:31  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> even Combuster has a few ;)
20:24:33  <PublicServer> <Nickman> but the connection is one way...
20:24:35  <Taborda> but!dl autottd
20:24:38  <Taborda> !dl autottd
20:24:38  <PublicServer> Taborda: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/AutoTTD
20:24:41  <PublicServer> <Nickman> there are two lines coming in
20:24:45  <PublicServer> <Nickman> no returning line...
20:24:48  <PublicServer> <Combuster> And yes, I see missing sprite symbols
20:24:56  <PublicServer> <Nickman> so ath the moment Fairyworth can't be terminus?
20:25:09  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Solved :)
20:25:10  <PublicServer> <Nickman> or is it a RL connection?
20:25:14  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> Fairyworth is terminus....
20:25:15  <Taborda> !dl
20:25:15  <PublicServer> Taborda: !dl autostart|autottd|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x
20:25:19  <Taborda> !dl autoupdate
20:25:19  <PublicServer> Taborda: http://www.openttdcoop.org/winupdater
20:25:21  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> what do you see the problem to be?
20:25:26  <PublicServer> <satyap> so why is it on the ML,.... sigh
20:25:27  <PublicServer> <Nickman> so with a RL connection to it?
20:25:34  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> the connection to south pax is wrong
20:25:40  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> but the fairyworth station itself is just fine
20:25:42  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Thrax: I just "fixed" the grahics glitch :)
20:25:58  <PublicServer> <Nickman> south has allot of strange connections it seems :D
20:26:06  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> Combuster: there are several bridges glitched like that, actually
20:26:13  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> I think Mark left them intentionally
20:26:34  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> right, i gotta go , cyas all :)
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20:28:08  <PublicServer> <Combuster> ? more graphics glitches
20:28:31  <PublicServer> <Combuster> The Copper Tubular bridge looks like the silicon bridge
20:28:34  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> two other West>East bridges at Fairyworth that have same glitch
20:28:44  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> just the suspension bridges, I think
20:31:03  <satyap> hmm
20:31:12  <satyap> there needs to be another BBH near toggletown
20:31:22  <PublicServer> <satyap> near MM sout hi mean
20:31:26  <Taborda> !dl lin
20:31:26  <PublicServer> Taborda: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r16973/openttd-trunk-r16973-linux-generic-i686.tar.bz2
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20:32:24  <Taborda> !version
20:32:25  <PublicServer> Taborda: Autopilot AP+ 3.0 Beta (r699M)
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20:32:48  <PublicServer> <Raiscan> oi bonecrusher, that's wrong :P
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20:32:57  <PublicServer> <Raiscan> only 4 are needed, I'm working on it :)
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20:35:17  <PublicServer> <Raiscan> The plan says LR
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20:36:30  <PublicServer> <Raiscan> okay I'm just confused now
20:36:35  <PublicServer> <Raiscan> oh
20:36:46  <PublicServer> <Nickman> something is terribly wrong at South Pax...
20:37:00  <Taborda> what is a pax?
20:37:08  <PublicServer> <Nickman> Passengers
20:37:15  <Taborda> eheh
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20:37:41  <PublicServer> <Nickman> Fairyworth Valley is built for a single entry and a single exit line...
20:38:01  <PublicServer> <Nickman> we can just build a copy of the station next to it for second line though?
20:38:04  <PublicServer> <Raiscan> none shall exit!
20:38:38  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> Fairyworth valley is not a major station, but a pax feeder.
20:38:44  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> disconnect it from ML and ignore it for now
20:39:05  <PublicServer> <Nickman> could you place the correct ML then?
20:39:07  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> once the ML is done, Mark can worry about connecting it again
20:39:14  <PublicServer> <Nickman> have no idea where it should go?
20:39:32  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> just a guess...
20:40:20  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Scratch one hub
20:42:27  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> did you see the bridge I built for northbound ML at south pax?
20:42:33  <PublicServer> <satyap> i see
20:42:36  <PublicServer> <satyap> it is nice
20:42:37  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> again, just a guess, but it would work I think
20:42:50  <PublicServer> <satyap> what...
20:42:58  <Taborda> cool
20:43:01  <Taborda> joining now :)
20:43:03  <Taborda> !password
20:43:03  <PublicServer> Taborda: lilted
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20:43:20  <PublicServer> <Taborda> :)
20:44:29  <Taborda> !!network plane
20:44:30  <Taborda> !!network plan
20:44:33  <Taborda> !network plan
20:44:57  <satyap> uh, no
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20:45:02  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> any signs at the top of the list (they start with "  !!" are important ones :)
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20:45:29  <PublicServer> <Taborda> oh sorry
20:45:52  <PublicServer> <Combuster> when you see people talk about !this and !that, they are signs
20:45:59  <PublicServer> <Taborda> ok :)
20:46:00  <PublicServer> <Taborda> tks
20:46:34  <PublicServer> <Nickman> why don't we have 3 lines going to south pax?
20:47:06  <PublicServer> <satyap> because plan says LLRR
20:47:11  <PublicServer> <Combuster> because that area is not going to be congested enough?
20:47:24  <PublicServer> <satyap> i already asked insulfrog
20:47:33  <satyap> the LLL part refers to where he has double-tracked
20:47:35  <PublicServer> <Taborda> oh guys there is too much information lol
20:47:36  <PublicServer> <Nickman> I'll leave the south part to you guys :D
20:47:39  <satyap> which is, like, whatever
20:47:58  <PublicServer> <Combuster> and we can really use the space in between :)
20:48:13  <PublicServer> <Taborda> what can i do? :p
20:48:29  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Good question.
20:48:34  <PublicServer> <Combuster> watch and learn? :)
20:48:40  <PublicServer> <Taborda> eheh
20:49:07  <PublicServer> <Combuster> I find that refinery hub a bit weird in the plan
20:49:19  <PublicServer> <Nickman> indeed
20:49:23  <PublicServer> <Combuster> the plan says its all connected
20:49:30  <PublicServer> <Combuster> but I suspect it need not be that way
20:49:42  <PublicServer> <Nickman> I sure hope so
20:52:08  <PublicServer> <Combuster> insulfrog, you around?
20:52:45  <PublicServer> <Raiscan> he went to bed
20:52:55  <PublicServer> <Combuster> mâh
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20:58:00  <PublicServer> <Nickman> only two needed after town :)
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21:00:53  <PublicServer> <Taborda> one question
21:00:58  <satyap> gyes?
21:01:09  <PublicServer> <Taborda> you guys have stations far from the towns
21:01:25  <PublicServer> <Taborda> how the town will grow?
21:01:28  <PublicServer> * satyap watches taborda surpass satyap's skills in 2 days
21:01:39  <PublicServer> <Taborda> lol
21:01:40  <satyap> a little thing called station walk, using ctrl-click
21:02:03  <PublicServer> <Raiscan> you put mini stations in the towns using ctrl+click to extend it a large distance
21:02:10  <PublicServer> <Taborda> hum
21:02:19  <raWt> cheating
21:02:31  <PublicServer> <Taborda> lol
21:02:34  <raWt> build trucks instead
21:02:35  <raWt> :D
21:02:39  <satyap> some consider that cheating, yes
21:02:59  <PublicServer> <Taborda> but it wont say that the station is too far?
21:03:24  <raWt> You can change the limit somewhere if I remeber correctly
21:03:36  <PublicServer> <satyap> the limit on most of the games here is 64
21:03:42  <raWt> which is max
21:03:46  <PublicServer> <Taborda> oh ok
21:03:57  <PublicServer> <Raiscan> Advanced Settings --> Stations --> Max station spread (64 atm)
21:04:08  <PublicServer> <Taborda> yeh
21:04:40  <PublicServer> <Raiscan> I wonder what the game considers a "High setting" for it
21:04:46  <PublicServer> <satyap> 128
21:04:48  <PublicServer> <satyap> i kid
21:04:55  <satyap> i think it's time for me to bugger off
21:04:58  <PublicServer> <Raiscan> over 9000
21:05:11  <PublicServer> <Taborda> where do you guys are from?
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21:05:41  <PublicServer> <Raiscan> Lazywig
21:06:32  <PublicServer> <satyap> hey i like the steel girder bridge in monorail
21:07:06  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Just the rod :)
21:07:13  <PublicServer> <Combuster> like 'ole TT
21:07:15  <PublicServer> <Raiscan> it'll look awesome at Fairyworth when that's fixed
21:07:30  <PublicServer> <Raiscan> rods over tunnel entrances
21:07:35  <PublicServer> <Combuster> The 420/h Cantilever looks nice too
21:08:19  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Btw the concrete monorail bridges are rods too
21:08:24  <PublicServer> <Combuster> only for 160 km/h :/
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21:10:04  <PublicServer> <Taborda> do tunnels slow down the trains?
21:10:13  <PublicServer> <Raiscan> no
21:10:14  <PublicServer> <Nickman> nope
21:10:18  <PublicServer> <Taborda> ok
21:10:31  <PublicServer> <Taborda> why you do that calcs with the tunnels?
21:10:44  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> you can't signal tunnels
21:10:55  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> so we split the line when we make tunnels/bridges to keep capacity up
21:11:04  <PublicServer> <Combuster> because trains come after one another with only meters to spare
21:11:05  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> the calcs let us know how many tunnels we need for a long span without signals
21:11:49  <PublicServer> <Nickman> shouldn't print works be moved North a little?
21:12:02  <PublicServer> <Taborda> nice :p
21:13:49  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> how many platforms per line are needed for unloading?  6?
21:13:52  <PublicServer> <Taborda> you guys are crazy lol
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21:14:02  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Thanks for the compliment :)
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21:14:05  <PublicServer> <Taborda> :p
21:14:15  <PublicServer> <Raiscan> what's crazy is that hub
21:14:21  <PublicServer> <Raiscan> boggles my mind
21:14:24  <PublicServer> <Taborda> lol
21:14:26  <PublicServer> <Combuster> BBH01?
21:14:29  <PublicServer> <Raiscan> yeah
21:14:36  <PublicServer> <Raiscan> work of art
21:14:36  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Its not that bad
21:14:54  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> that's actually one of Combuster's saner works
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21:15:23  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Do you know that SRNW regulator I made a few games back?
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21:15:28  <PublicServer> <tussengas> holy.... BBH is looking insane :P
21:15:29  <PublicServer> <Combuster> that was sick
21:15:34  <PublicServer> <tussengas> BBH01
21:15:40  <PublicServer> <Nickman> that was indeed sick
21:15:43  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> SRNW = self-regulating network, for those watching at home
21:15:55  <PublicServer> <Combuster> :)
21:15:55  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> where trains only have a drop order, but have to go through a pickup station to get there
21:16:08  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> and they only get into a pickup station if there is a full load of cargo waiting for them
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21:16:22  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> otherwise they overflow back into a depot and are re-inserted at the beginning :)
21:16:35  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> kinda Matrix-esque, now that I think about it.
21:16:50  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> trains that fail are "returned to the source"
21:16:57  <PublicServer> <Taborda> going to read some stuff on wiki :p
21:17:03  <PublicServer> <tussengas> tunnels at toggleton are also very nice
21:17:34  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Broken concept
21:17:39  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Dunno who built it
21:17:51  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> yeah - without penalties, it's broken
21:18:03  <PublicServer> <satyap> so fix it :)
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21:18:16  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> I don't think there's enough space to fix it
21:18:22  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> need double penalties on first set
21:18:33  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> that will work :)
21:18:33  <PublicServer> <Raiscan> what's that cmd to calc bridge distance?
21:18:54  <PublicServer> <Raiscan> thx
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21:22:57  <PublicServer> <Raiscan> aw
21:23:25  <PublicServer> <Combuster> No need to make that more ugly than it already is
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21:23:43  <Nickman_87> !password
21:23:43  <PublicServer> Nickman_87: genies
21:23:53  <PublicServer> <Taborda> lol
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21:24:09  <PublicServer> <tussengas> com, how you made those viaducts?
21:24:21  <PublicServer> <tussengas> are the normal bridges?
21:24:27  <PublicServer> <Combuster> bridges?
21:24:40  <PublicServer> <Combuster> depends on *what* bridge you want?
21:24:51  <PublicServer> <tussengas> those you used at bbh01
21:24:59  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Girder Steel
21:25:08  <PublicServer> <Combuster> or "rods" :)
21:25:35  <PublicServer> <tussengas> rods?
21:25:59  <PublicServer> <Raiscan> can we not just do it over the water with the single rails for aesthetics? water-rails are tasty
21:26:27  <PublicServer> <satyap> hmm, why don't you want them in the first set of tunnels?
21:28:02  <satyap> there's a length limit on the girder bridges
21:28:58  <PublicServer> <Raiscan> that's okay because the length limit is < the required TL
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21:31:23  <satyap> hungry
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21:38:52  <PublicServer> <Taborda> how you build so fast? lol
21:39:04  <PublicServer> <Raiscan> many hands make light work
21:40:17  <PublicServer> <Nickman> I hate CL6...
21:40:26  <PublicServer> <Taborda> what is cl?
21:40:38  <PublicServer> <Nickman> Curve length
21:40:41  <PublicServer> <Nickman> for optimal speed
21:40:42  <PublicServer> <Taborda> eheh
21:40:47  <PublicServer> <Taborda> yah
21:42:13  <PublicServer> <Taborda> btw what is food drop and pickup?
21:43:46  <planetmaker> good night folks
21:43:50  <PublicServer> <Raiscan> night
21:43:51  <PublicServer> <Nickman> night
21:43:56  <PublicServer> <Combuster> 'night pm
21:44:11  <PublicServer> <Nickman> pfff
21:44:18  <PublicServer> <Nickman> can't get my tracks right...
21:44:28  <PublicServer> <Taborda> what you doing?
21:44:38  <PublicServer> <Raiscan> I'm worried about those bridges being too long
21:44:43  <PublicServer> <Nickman> trying to connect the mountain station :)
21:50:44  <PublicServer> <Nickman> euhm, I don't think a LL_RR ring around the mountain is buildable :s
21:51:02  <PublicServer> <Nickman> can't we just make it RR or so? :s
21:51:06  <PublicServer> <Nickman> single direction
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22:00:48  <PublicServer> <Taborda> nice
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22:09:18  <PublicServer> <Raiscan> what will the mountain hub have?
22:09:33  <PublicServer> <Nickman> what do you mean?
22:09:42  <PublicServer> <Raiscan> what will be there?
22:10:00  <PublicServer> <Nickman> I don't know either, I only built it... :d
22:10:11  <PublicServer> <Raiscan> trying to see the point in it..
22:12:39  <PublicServer> <Nickman> I refuse to build a two directional ring around the mountain!
22:12:48  <PublicServer> <Taborda> lol
22:13:15  <PublicServer> <Taborda> you mean, build another thing like that you built?
22:13:16  <PublicServer> <Nickman> look at the east maintain hub connection...
22:13:21  <PublicServer> <Nickman> it's sick...
22:13:34  <PublicServer> <Nickman> I can't add another direction to it...
22:13:37  <PublicServer> <Taborda> for other direction?
22:14:22  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> why would 2-directions be needed there?
22:14:29  <PublicServer> <Nickman> plan sais RR_LL
22:14:30  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> it's a one-way loop around the mountain
22:14:39  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> ah....
22:14:41  <PublicServer> <Nickman> 'ringroad' is LLRR
22:14:44  <PublicServer> <Nickman> I refuse!
22:14:45  <PublicServer> <Nickman> :D
22:14:56  <PublicServer> <Taborda> but why you have three tracks?
22:14:56  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> so it does...
22:14:57  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Too late
22:15:13  <PublicServer> <Nickman> well, I'm not building it! :D
22:17:50  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> how many food pickup plats you think are needed?
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22:21:31  <PublicServer> <Nickman> BBH04 done! :D
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22:28:01  <PublicServer> <Combuster> sounds like rounding error
22:28:08  <PublicServer> <Nickman> ?
22:28:29  <PublicServer> <Nickman> only need 10 ;)
22:28:48  <PublicServer> <Combuster> 10 should work with only two
22:29:01  <PublicServer> <Nickman> well, check !here if it is alright
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22:29:34  <PublicServer> <Combuster> that's 9
22:29:36  <Donyc> !password
22:29:36  <PublicServer> Donyc: irater
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22:30:28  <PublicServer> <Nickman> will !this work? :S
22:30:44  <PublicServer> <Combuster> I think it should
22:30:57  <PublicServer> <Combuster> being that those two lanes arwe synced
22:31:08  <PublicServer> <Nickman> indeed...
22:31:19  <PublicServer> <Taborda> are what?
22:31:31  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Synced
22:31:38  <PublicServer> <Combuster> see the double bridges?
22:31:50  <PublicServer> <Taborda> y
22:32:01  <PublicServer> <Combuster> trains go right and left alternating
22:32:08  <PublicServer> <Combuster> if they are synced
22:32:11  <PublicServer> <Taborda> hum
22:32:27  <PublicServer> <Combuster> the distance until the lanes come together is exactly the same
22:32:49  <PublicServer> <Combuster> which means that they fit after each other with exactly the same distances
22:33:03  <PublicServer> <Combuster> if one lane is slightly longer
22:33:25  <PublicServer> <Combuster> the train taking the shorter lane will hold up the longer lane
22:33:36  <PublicServer> <Combuster> *be held up
22:33:38  <PublicServer> <Raiscan> does ANYONE know what the mountain hub will have waiting there?
22:33:57  <PublicServer> <Taborda> hum ok :P
22:34:21  <PublicServer> <Combuster> if that happens a few times after another, the whole line slows down to a crawl
22:34:31  <PublicServer> <Combuster> and you get a traffic jam
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22:37:35  <Wall-D> !password
22:37:35  <PublicServer> Wall-D: onuses
22:37:56  <PublicServer> <Nickman> ok, R-LL is that OK? :D
22:38:06  <PublicServer> <Combuster> nope :)
22:38:08  <PublicServer> <Nickman> :(
22:38:19  <PublicServer> <Nickman> but the exits still arn't fully connected... :(
22:38:20  <PublicServer> <Nickman> pffff
22:38:26  <PublicServer> <Nickman> I hate this plan...
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22:40:13  <PublicServer> <Nickman> I already connected the lines trough, now connect the station...
22:41:15  <PublicServer> <Nickman> exits are impossible to connect
22:41:39  <PublicServer> <Combuster> "impossible" ahem
22:41:57  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Thing is
22:42:05  <PublicServer> <Combuster> you forgot to calculate it in from the start
22:42:13  <PublicServer> <Nickman> :(
22:42:18  <PublicServer> <Nickman> I could use some help... :(
22:42:28  <PublicServer> <Nickman> I might have an idea...
22:42:32  <PublicServer> <Combuster> tomorrow
22:42:35  <PublicServer> <Nickman> but I'd have to remove all :D
22:42:47  <PublicServer> <Combuster> I expected as much :/
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22:43:18  <Combuster> Well, folks
22:43:24  <Combuster> that's it for yesterday :)
22:43:28  <Combuster> 'night all
22:43:55  <Combuster> there are still some nasty puzzles to solve
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23:09:08  <Nickman_87> night all
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23:25:07  <XeryusTC> !revision
23:25:07  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Game version is r16973
23:25:23  <XeryusTC> !dl win64
23:25:23  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r16973/openttd-trunk-r16973-windows-win64.zip
23:26:54  <XeryusTC> !password
23:26:54  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: icings
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23:29:35  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> how odd that there are 2 other people online with no conversation at all
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23:29:59  <Ammler> nightly
23:30:06  <Taborda> lol
23:31:30  <XeryusTC> hmm, nice, 13 registered users at the ladder site :D
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23:53:57  <Ammler> we need tournament :P
23:54:11  <Ammler> good night all
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