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00:02:11 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> kirov, try to minimize the length of the path train has to go 00:02:16 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> trains are VERY expensive 00:02:39 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> that means absolutely hardcore very expensive 00:02:42 <PublicServer> <Kirov> yeah, I just saw that, tnx 00:02:44 <SmatZ> is it expensive because of used GRF parameters? 00:03:02 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> mark said its some kind of bug 00:03:06 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> i don't know 00:03:23 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> but its fine as far as we build a network with the fact in mind 00:03:38 <PublicServer> <Kirov> whic set is this? 00:03:45 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> some sort of mix 00:03:50 <SmatZ> hehe 00:06:28 <Razaekel> !password 00:06:28 <PublicServer> Razaekel: hippie 00:06:34 *** Phoenix_the_II has quit IRC 00:06:39 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> 100 tiles cost about 6k 00:06:49 <SmatZ> :) 00:06:52 *** Phoenix_the_II has joined #openttdcoop 00:06:56 <PublicServer> *** Razaekel joined the game 00:06:57 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Phoenix_the_II 00:06:58 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> i did the math! 00:06:59 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> :D 00:07:04 <SmatZ> gratz 00:07:17 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> wow, you can do math 00:07:21 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> im impressed 00:07:26 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> thanks 00:07:33 <SmatZ> @calc 1 / 0 00:07:45 <Fuco> clever clever bo 00:07:45 <Fuco> t 00:07:49 <SmatZ> :) 00:07:50 <Fuco> mine would die probably 00:07:54 <SmatZ> :-D 00:08:10 <PublicServer> <Kirov> it seems to be a bug, a new game with the same grfs it only costs a fraction 00:08:11 <Fuco> hmm but probably not, as im using groovy now 00:08:15 <Fuco> it would just throw an exception 00:08:18 <PublicServer> <Kirov> was inflation on? 00:08:20 <SmatZ> :-) 00:08:21 <Fuco> which i can silently ignore 00:08:36 <Fuco> kriov: no 00:08:38 <SmatZ> @calc -inf / inf 00:08:45 <Fuco> that's tricky one 00:08:49 <Fuco> i'd say -inf 00:08:53 <Fuco> oh wayt 00:08:54 <Fuco> wait 00:08:56 <SmatZ> :) 00:09:00 <Fuco> you cant do that 00:09:02 <Fuco> its late >< 00:09:03 <SmatZ> guess some NaN 00:09:07 <SmatZ> :-) 00:09:10 <Fuco> same as inf-inf 00:09:14 <SmatZ> yeah :) 00:09:43 <SmatZ> guess IEEE754 (?) will answer these :) 00:09:49 <Fuco> yep 00:09:59 <Fuco> it would be 111111111111111111111111111111111 00:10:16 <Fuco> if i remember that right 00:11:11 <Fuco> nope 00:11:23 <Fuco> its 1111111 and zeros for fraction 00:11:31 <Fuco> + the sign bit ofc 00:12:20 <SmatZ> what is +-inf then? 00:12:41 <Fuco> +inf is 0 (for sign) then 11111111 (for exponent) then 0000.... for fraction 00:13:04 <Fuco> based on the precision you use, there would be differend number of exponent/fraction bits 00:13:18 <SmatZ> ok :) 00:13:27 *** DCritic has joined #openttdcoop 00:13:28 <Fuco> for f32 its 1/8/the rest 00:13:32 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v DCritic 00:13:34 <DCritic> !password 00:13:34 <PublicServer> DCritic: hippie 00:13:43 <SmatZ> so exp == 1022 -> inf 00:13:48 <SmatZ> exp == 1023 -> nan 00:13:56 <SmatZ> exp == 0 -> denormal :-p 00:14:13 <SmatZ> errr 00:14:16 <Fuco> how can you get 1024 with 8 bits? 00:14:17 <SmatZ> it's signed of course 00:14:38 <SmatZ> very valid question 00:14:47 <Fuco> nan has imo the same bit pattern as inf 00:14:52 <Fuco> simple because inf is not a number 00:14:56 <SmatZ> hmm 00:15:05 <SmatZ> I don't believe it 00:15:17 <Fuco> ye it is not possible 00:15:20 <Fuco> coz inf - inf is nan 00:15:25 <Fuco> so they have to work it out somehow 00:15:34 <SmatZ> inf * inf = inf 00:15:42 <SmatZ> inf * nan = nan 00:16:08 <Fuco> aaah 00:16:15 <Fuco> nan is exponent all 1 and nonzero fraction 00:16:25 <Fuco> inf is zero fraction 00:16:34 <Fuco> google'd it up 00:16:37 <Fuco> hehe 00:17:31 <SmatZ> http://devs.openttd.org/~smatz/nans.png :) 00:17:41 <SmatZ> intel format 00:18:20 <Fuco> and then there's the quiet nan 00:18:37 <Fuco> pff 00:18:43 <Fuco> ieee754 is cool stuff 00:18:59 <Fuco> mostly because 754 is ending of my ID at uni 00:19:03 <Fuco> so i can remember that one easily 00:19:07 <Fuco> :D 00:19:19 <SmatZ> QNaNs are allowed to propagate through most arithmetic operations without signaling an exception. SNaNs generally signal an floating-point invalid operations without signaling an exception. SNaNs generally signal an floating-point invalid- 00:19:29 <SmatZ> operation exception whenever they appear as operands in arithmetic operations. 00:19:42 <SmatZ> hehe 00:20:07 <Fuco> this hardware stuff and lowlevel stuff... everytime i think about it im amazed 00:20:12 <SmatZ> :) 00:20:15 <Fuco> how the hell can anyone come up with something like a CPU 00:20:22 <SmatZ> ;) 00:20:46 <SmatZ> processor never generates an SNaN as a result of a floating-point operation. <== interesting 00:21:08 <Fuco> when i was visiting the "basics of pc architecture" lectures, and that was really basic stuff, i was totaly amazed 00:21:18 <Fuco> some stuff was just SO simple 00:21:23 <SmatZ> ;) 00:21:24 <Fuco> yet it took us 10000 years to develop 00:21:29 <SmatZ> hehe 00:21:30 <Fuco> or more probably 00:21:33 <Fuco> for homo sapiens 00:22:00 <SmatZ> what does "basics of pc architecture" mean in your case? 00:22:15 <SmatZ> it can be electric parameters of buses 00:22:15 <Fuco> i can check out the official english name 00:22:20 <Fuco> sec 00:22:22 <SmatZ> as well as rtl level 00:22:31 <SmatZ> -level :-p 00:22:40 <SmatZ> (similiar to led diode ;) 00:23:41 <SmatZ> or, rather, some "OS stuff" 00:23:42 <DCritic> !password 00:23:42 <PublicServer> DCritic: resale 00:23:45 <SmatZ> paging and such 00:23:55 <PublicServer> *** DCritic joined the game 00:23:59 <Fuco> http://pastebin.com/dc9c0345 00:24:07 <Fuco> pasted a bit of the lecture page 00:24:08 <Fuco> ;D 00:24:17 <Fuco> nope, OS stuff was another one 00:24:45 <SmatZ> Brandejs, Michal. Výpočetní systémy (Computer Systems). 2008. URL info <=== czech textbook? 8-) 00:24:54 <Fuco> yep 00:24:58 <SmatZ> ha, you are slovak, aren't you :) 00:25:03 <Fuco> yep 00:25:19 <SmatZ> nice :) 00:25:23 <Fuco> yep 00:25:24 <Fuco> ;d 00:25:29 <Fuco> altho i study in czech 00:25:47 <SmatZ> muni.cz :) 00:25:57 <PublicServer> *** Peter has left the game (leaving) 00:26:05 <Fuco> should i check out for your nickname there/ :D 00:26:26 <Fuco> Nobody found matching your query smatz 00:26:27 <SmatZ> yeah I remember asking you if you like Fico :-p 00:26:27 <Fuco> :( 00:26:29 <SmatZ> :() 00:26:42 <Fuco> hmm, ye 00:26:43 <Fuco> i remember 00:26:49 <SmatZ> sorry :( 00:26:59 <Fuco> god, elections are next year 00:27:03 <SmatZ> :) 00:27:06 <Fuco> i hope that fag wont win again 00:27:12 <SmatZ> hehe 00:27:24 <Fuco> but people are stupid 00:27:51 *** Phoenix_the_II has quit IRC 00:27:58 *** Phoenix_the_II has joined #openttdcoop 00:28:03 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Phoenix_the_II 00:28:18 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> does rating of a station depends on how many trains are waiting? 00:28:36 <SmatZ> nope 00:28:51 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> i wonder why these truck feeders i've built cant go over 70 00:29:06 <SmatZ> it depends on cargo waiting, age of last vehicle, max. speed of last vehicle... 00:29:16 <SmatZ> maybe on other things too, like statue in town 00:29:38 <SmatZ> days since last vehicle probably too 00:29:42 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> max speed? hmm 00:29:53 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> trucks are slow ;p 00:30:06 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> altho i can't imagine a truck with 25t cargo go over 110km/h 00:30:11 <SmatZ> hehe 00:30:45 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> but hey, its year 2105 00:30:51 <SmatZ> :-) 00:31:06 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> antigrav propulsion 00:31:10 <SmatZ> :-p 00:33:32 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> lol these goods trains unload instantly 00:33:35 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> from 100 to 0 00:33:48 <SmatZ> !rcon set gradualloading 00:33:48 <PublicServer> SmatZ: 'gradualloading' is an unknown setting. 00:33:50 <SmatZ> !rcon set gradual_loading 00:33:50 <PublicServer> SmatZ: Current value for 'gradual_loading' is: 'on' (min: 0, max: 1) 00:34:15 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> also, concorde being cheaper then truck is suspicious 00:34:45 <PublicServer> *** Fucoo has left the game (connection lost) 00:34:56 *** Fuco has quit IRC 00:34:58 <PeterT> ahh! fuco! 00:35:09 <SmatZ> too late! 00:35:27 <PeterT> I wasn't trying to highlight him............................SmATZ 00:35:33 <PeterT> :-) Powered by YARRSTE version: svn-trunk