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Log for #openttdcoop on 7th October 2009:
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00:12:23  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Waw, drop not jamming yet
00:21:51  <PeterT> waw, you're still here ;-p\
00:25:30  <Kupuham> =)
00:25:58  <Kupuham> Oops, oil wells are gone, what do we do?
00:34:43  <PeterT> fund :(
00:34:51  <PeterT> no! just kidding
00:34:52  <PeterT> don't do that
00:35:42  <PublicServer> <DCritic> peter what happened to the world map server
00:41:46  <Kupuham> Waw, I rerouted the trucks to a new oil well...
00:41:51  <Kupuham> and it's gone too!
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00:50:22  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Is the Factory just that magic?
00:50:31  <PublicServer> <DCritic> maybe
00:51:05  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Do we have the oil refinery already?
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00:55:33  <PublicServer> <DCritic> ATTENTION
00:55:39  <PublicServer> <DCritic> THE FACTORY IZ NOW OPEN!!!
00:55:47  <Kupuham> lol...
00:56:01  <PublicServer> <FiCE> lol
00:56:13  <PublicServer> <FiCE> we have a refinery station... but it isn't connected yet to the ML
00:56:39  <PublicServer> <DCritic> i didnt intend for that to be a lol
00:57:01  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Couldn't it be connected quickly, just so we can stop having so much oil laying around? =D
00:57:39  <PublicServer> <FiCE> sure, go ahead :p
00:58:11  <PublicServer> <FiCE> actually I'll hack it in quickly :)
01:00:47  <Kupuham> Interestingly, there is a seemingly 'natural' farm near that, erm..'magical' one
01:01:59  <Kupuham> SRO= ?
01:04:33  <PublicServer> <FiCE> ok it just needs signalling now
01:04:39  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Where is it?
01:05:02  <PublicServer> <FiCE> BBH01
01:05:06  <PublicServer> <FiCE> near top of the map
01:06:08  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> And another oil refinery gone
01:06:12  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> oil Well*
01:07:58  <Kupuham> On a scale of 1-10, how evil is it to pick up oil from a platform with vehicles?
01:08:11  <Kupuham> On a scale of 1-10, how evil is it to pick up oil from a platform, with vehicles?*
01:09:30  <PublicServer> <DCritic> omg the blimp i made actually makes money lol
01:09:47  <PublicServer> <DCritic> it explains the magic factory
01:14:29  <PublicServer> <FiCE> ok the oil refinery is OK to use now
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01:17:22  <Chris_Booth> hello
01:17:24  <Chris_Booth> all
01:17:28  <Kupuham> Hi ther
01:17:30  <PublicServer> <DCritic> hello
01:17:34  <PeterT> hi
01:17:35  <PublicServer> <DCritic> hows my factory drop
01:17:42  <PublicServer> <DCritic> and it even has an MM blimp
01:17:42  <Chris_Booth> much happening?
01:17:50  <PublicServer> <DCritic> yeah the MM blimp
01:17:53  <PublicServer> <DCritic> at factory
01:17:56  <Chris_Booth> has BBH 03 bee finished or fixed?
01:18:12  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> No, but I can say nobody overtakes at drop 4
01:18:14  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> =)
01:18:32  <PublicServer> <DCritic> i can say factory drop has been built
01:19:27  <PublicServer> <DCritic> just look at the mm i made
01:19:33  <Chris_Booth> !password
01:19:34  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: rinked
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01:20:08  <PublicServer> <DCritic> we must kill all tutsi
01:20:14  <PeterT> !players
01:20:16  <PublicServer> PeterT: Client 348 (Orange) is Kupuham, in company 1 (Interahamwe Hutu)
01:20:16  <PublicServer> PeterT: Client 248 is Jens, a spectator
01:20:16  <PublicServer> PeterT: Client 378 (Orange) is FiCE, in company 1 (Interahamwe Hutu)
01:20:16  <PublicServer> PeterT: Client 370 (Orange) is DCritic, in company 1 (Interahamwe Hutu)
01:20:16  <PublicServer> PeterT: Client 379 (Orange) is Chris Booth, in company 1 (Interahamwe Hutu)
01:20:23  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> bbh 04 needs to be buikd#
01:20:52  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and oil ref is worng
01:21:28  <PublicServer> <DCritic> what's buikd#
01:21:41  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> check plan
01:21:53  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> then you will see what is wrong and ok
01:22:06  <PublicServer> <DCritic> so im wrong?
01:22:08  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> oil ref need a drop and pickup station
01:22:14  <PublicServer> <DCritic> ok
01:22:15  <PublicServer> <DCritic> thx
01:22:21  <PublicServer> <DCritic> ill do that w factory
01:22:35  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> BBH 03 isnt built
01:22:47  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> sawmill drop / pickup isnt built
01:23:06  <PublicServer> <FiCE> yeah it is :p
01:23:32  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and rv transfer 1 2 3 and 5 need to be built
01:23:50  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> as you know i dont build very much
01:24:10  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> so you wil have to finish the map between the rest of you
01:24:19  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i dont like low end building
01:24:23  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> only high end
01:24:39  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> plus i want my plan to fail
01:24:43  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> as it is crap
01:27:07  <PublicServer> <FiCE> ok sawmill is connected too
01:27:16  <PublicServer> <FiCE> so you can send oil/wood to their drops
01:27:19  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no it isnt
01:27:25  <PublicServer> <FiCE> there is a temporary hack @ the sawmill
01:27:34  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> need to connest 4 ways
01:27:45  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> 2 exit and 2 entance atleast
01:27:55  <PublicServer> <FiCE> i was referring to our current RV pickup :)
01:27:57  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> then to rv tansfer 3
01:28:12  <PublicServer> <FiCE> it's "done" for the current RV xfer
01:28:21  <PublicServer> <FiCE> but yeah, those BBH's need fixing
01:28:22  <Chris_Booth> no it isnt
01:28:36  <PublicServer> <FiCE> oh goods...
01:28:40  <Chris_Booth> we never ever just connect a BBH in one direction
01:29:39  <Kupuham> Go ahead and fix it then
01:31:08  <Chris_Booth> i am sorry but i have to leave now
01:31:20  <Chris_Booth> i have to be up at 9 am GMT + 1
01:31:44  <Chris_Booth> but i can stop you all from playing by pausing the sever
01:31:50  <Chris_Booth> unless you follow the plan
01:31:54  <PublicServer> <FiCE> :)
01:32:04  <PublicServer> <DCritic> i'm following it
01:32:22  <Chris_Booth> F1ce: you know better
01:32:31  <Chris_Booth> you have played here lots
01:32:35  <PeterT> Wow, I didn't know that CTRL + click on sign deletes it :O
01:32:46  <PublicServer> <FiCE> I am...
01:32:46  <Chris_Booth> and you DCritic
01:33:04  <PublicServer> <DCritic> i'm following it
01:33:08  <Chris_Booth> also PeterT should know aswell
01:33:12  <PublicServer> <FiCE> I never said the BBH's were completed
01:33:28  <Chris_Booth> if BBH 03 has no WIP sign then just remove it and
01:33:31  <Chris_Booth> rebuild
01:33:50  <Chris_Booth> F1ce: this isnt your first warning
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01:34:20  <PublicServer> <FiCE> ??
01:34:35  <Chris_Booth> your stations such as saswmill are wrong
01:34:36  <PublicServer> <DCritic> what's a WIP sign?
01:34:43  <PublicServer> <DCritic> work in progress?
01:34:47  <Chris_Booth> WIP = work in progress
01:34:53  <PublicServer> <FiCE> I know they're not fully connected to the ML
01:35:05  <Chris_Booth> no not just not fully connected
01:35:32  <Chris_Booth> we never use 1 station for drop and pickup at a processing industry
01:35:42  <PublicServer> <FiCE> ok that's an easy fix
01:35:43  <PublicServer> <DCritic> yeah i actually did that
01:35:48  <Chris_Booth> and you have been told befor
01:36:37  <Chris_Booth> so befor you add any more train fix stations and BBH's
01:37:00  <Chris_Booth> aslo if i were you dont vote for my plan befor you check the plan / map
01:37:10  <Chris_Booth> or we will end up with this again
01:37:25  <Kupuham> And 'this' is?
01:37:50  <Chris_Booth> a failed game as you all voted for the wrong plan
01:38:21  <PublicServer> <FiCE> I didn't vote :p
01:38:23  <Kupuham> I didn't vote for anyone, none seemed that good
01:38:38  <PublicServer> <DCritic> oooo disssss
01:38:40  <PublicServer> <DCritic> sry
01:38:40  <Kupuham> I don't see how this is so far from the plan
01:38:54  <PublicServer> <FiCE> if it is different from the plan
01:39:01  <PublicServer> <FiCE> it's the plan that is not very clear
01:39:16  <PublicServer> <FiCE> because it looks OK to me (compared to the plan)
01:39:24  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> did i ever say the plan was good?
01:39:39  <PeterT> !password
01:39:39  <PublicServer> PeterT: herpes
01:39:39  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i said when i made the plan it would fail
01:39:40  <Kupuham> That is not the point
01:39:45  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but ppl still voted for it
01:39:49  <PublicServer> <FiCE> yeah I read that too
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01:39:56  <Kupuham> I never saw that
01:39:59  <PublicServer> <FiCE> not my fault people voted for what they did :p
01:40:00  <PeterT> haha, the passwords just get funnier
01:40:15  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i didnt want to win
01:40:32  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i didnt want to build 5 4 way BBHs on this map
01:40:33  <PublicServer> <Peter> FiCE, why did you undo my station sycing?
01:40:41  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but idiots voted for it
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01:40:56  <Kupuham> Now it's done, next time leave something like 'JOKE PLAN"
01:41:02  <PublicServer> <DCritic> i had a goodd plan
01:41:07  <PublicServer> <FiCE> Peter: where?
01:41:21  <PublicServer> <Peter> WOOD DROP and WOOD GOODS PICKUP
01:41:27  <PublicServer> <DCritic> i didnt vote
01:41:33  <PublicServer> <DCritic> cuz i couldnt vote for my own plan
01:41:51  <PublicServer> <Peter> I syned the stations, and what do you do, unsync them
01:41:52  <PublicServer> <FiCE> what do you mean by syncing?
01:42:03  <PublicServer> * Peter facepalms
01:42:04  <PublicServer> <DCritic> cuz u can fit a 4 way bbh in 128 pixels with a good station
01:42:07  <PublicServer> <DCritic> can't*
01:43:33  <PublicServer> <FiCE> I didn't do that
01:43:40  <PublicServer> <DCritic> which
01:43:41  <PublicServer> <Peter> ok
01:43:42  <PublicServer> <FiCE> I built the station without syncing to start with
01:43:48  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> OK i have said how i feel about my pan now
01:43:50  <PublicServer> <FiCE> so if you fixed it...
01:43:55  <PublicServer> <FiCE> someone must have changed it back
01:43:59  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and i am not goint to play until next game
01:44:14  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> so its up to you guys and whom ever voted
01:44:15  <PublicServer> <FiCE> I'd be happy to see it redone properly
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01:45:01  <Chris_Booth> byw all untill OSG 162 or until ppl know how to vote and read plan
01:45:19  <Chris_Booth> !!!! never vote from the pnal that looks the nicest
01:45:51  <Chris_Booth> bye all and sorry
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01:46:00  <PeterT> bye chris
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01:46:04  <PeterT> i'm off too
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01:46:45  <PublicServer> <DCritic> ok we can still make this a good game
01:46:53  <PublicServer> <DCritic> now go and build more transfers!
01:47:31  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Wow, train 43 is stuck somehow
01:49:02  <Kupuham> Can't understand why
01:49:41  <Razaekel> !password
01:49:41  <PublicServer> Razaekel: dilate
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01:50:26  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> erail fail
01:50:36  <Kupuham> Oh, thanks
01:50:40  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> somebody wasnt using erail
01:51:17  <PublicServer> <DCritic> EVERYONE WORK ON RV TRANSFER 06
01:51:29  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Damn
01:51:30  <PublicServer> <DCritic> we really need more resources for the factory
01:51:31  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> It's stuck again
01:51:39  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> one sec
01:52:07  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> should be fixed now
01:52:23  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Train is still going back and forth =/
01:52:27  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> oh
01:52:29  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> signal backwards
01:54:03  <HDIEagle> !password
01:54:03  <PublicServer> HDIEagle: dilate
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01:56:35  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> ohsht trains run at 265 km/h?
01:56:48  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> yea
01:56:56  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> upgrade your bridges
01:56:57  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> goodbye tiered arch :(
01:57:08  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> tied...
01:57:15  <PublicServer> <FiCE> need to kill nonningpool
01:57:21  <PublicServer> <FiCE> otherwise it'll build all along the road
01:57:47  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> easy
01:58:13  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> just dont build in nonningpool
01:58:19  <PublicServer> <DCritic> ok
01:58:23  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> how advantageous is it to run two one way roads over one two way road?
01:58:32  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> i have no clue
01:58:47  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> and why are you bridging roads over road?
01:58:49  <PublicServer> <DCritic> well then it'd be a double lane
01:58:59  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> they only use one lane either way :P
01:58:59  <Kupuham> Cars are separeted
01:59:11  <PublicServer> <DCritic> so the cars don't try to turn
01:59:14  <Kupuham> Slower ones in the inside
01:59:30  <Kupuham> Faster on the outside, so they don't have to overtake, and so arrive slightly faster
01:59:44  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> i haven't seen 'em overtake before... :P
02:00:01  <Kupuham> Should have logged 5 hours ago then ;)
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02:03:03  <Kupuham> DCritic, you have something against grain? =P
02:03:51  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> wait, i thought you meant overtaking on one road
02:03:58  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> you're overtaking on two different roads
02:04:02  <Kupuham> ?
02:04:21  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Where is that happening?
02:04:36  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> rv t 04
02:04:43  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Where?
02:04:50  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> s 20 tiles
02:05:03  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> ?
02:05:20  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Not seeing it
02:05:28  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle>  ... !here
02:05:35  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Am there
02:05:51  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> there is no such thing as overtaking
02:05:59  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> There is
02:06:06  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> not on a road
02:06:11  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> on two separate roads, yes
02:06:37  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> That's no problem
02:06:49  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> so whats the advantage of a one way road over a two way road?
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02:07:44  <PublicServer> <DCritic> attach trains to go to RV Transfer 06
02:08:36  <Kupuham> Dunno, when I arrived it already worked like that, all I did was change the lanes so fast and slow don't mix
02:10:01  <Kupuham> There is no refinery yet, right?
02:11:39  <PublicServer> <DCritic> hello???
02:11:42  <PublicServer> <DCritic> ANYONE HERE?!?!?
02:11:44  <Kupuham> Hi?
02:11:54  <PublicServer> <FiCE> hi
02:11:57  <PublicServer> <DCritic> pls add trains to RV Transfer 06
02:12:06  <PublicServer> <FiCE> k
02:12:28  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Where is it?
02:12:44  <PublicServer> <DCritic> the way right of the map
02:13:12  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Sign, please?
02:13:33  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> why is bbh02 the huge bbh when bbh04 is 20 tiles longer and 10 tiles wider?
02:13:35  <PublicServer> <DCritic>   !obvious
02:13:40  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> :P
02:14:18  <PublicServer> <FiCE> no trainyard?
02:14:27  <PublicServer> <DCritic> there is pone
02:14:29  <PublicServer> <DCritic> one
02:14:34  <PublicServer> <FiCE> ah I thought I saw it before
02:14:52  <PublicServer> <FiCE> got it
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02:16:25  <PublicServer> <DCritic> any1 add trains yet
02:16:33  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> ...
02:16:40  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> no
02:16:51  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> we did
02:16:54  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> not
02:16:55  <PublicServer> <FiCE> i am
02:17:07  <PublicServer> <DCritic> k thx
02:22:46  <PublicServer> <DCritic> finish up the oil station
02:23:28  <PublicServer> <FiCE> that's easy to say... :p
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02:30:01  <F1ce> !password
02:30:01  <PublicServer> F1ce: gorier
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02:31:30  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Grain pickup too, @6
02:34:21  <Kupuham> oops
02:34:27  <Kupuham> 'Too Many vehicles in game
02:34:47  <Kupuham> Now what?
02:35:04  <PublicServer> <DCritic> now... epic fail
02:35:22  <Kupuham> RV's are hard limited, right?
02:35:35  <PublicServer> <DCritic> yeah
02:35:39  <PublicServer> <DCritic> ask an admin to raise it
02:35:56  <Kupuham> That's what I mean by hard limited
02:36:09  <Kupuham> I thought I read somewhere that you can't change it
02:36:30  <PublicServer> <DCritic> we can't but people like chris booth and mark can
02:38:09  <Kupuham> Guess we'll have to face it and play like big boys
02:38:19  <PublicServer> <DCritic> how's that?
02:38:23  <Kupuham> Railway building time =)
02:38:37  <PublicServer> <DCritic> no he'll get even more mad
02:38:56  <PublicServer> <DCritic> i guess we wait... :(
02:39:50  <PublicServer> <FiCE> ok all 4 ways are connected to the oil refinery
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02:52:45  <Kupuham> Made a few trades
02:52:52  <Kupuham> 'Bush' should get oil ;)
02:54:30  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> RV4 is jammed =x
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03:02:17  <PublicServer> <DCritic> i think i'm going, cya. nothing to do...
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03:02:34  <Kupuham> Oh well
03:17:22  <Kupuham> !players
03:17:23  <PublicServer> Kupuham: Client 348 (Orange) is Kupuham, in company 1 (Interahamwe Hutu Power)
03:17:23  <PublicServer> Kupuham: Client 248 is Jens, a spectator
03:17:23  <PublicServer> Kupuham: Client 386 is FiCE, a spectator
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04:26:21  <HDIEagle> !password
04:26:22  <PublicServer> HDIEagle: drawls
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05:15:59  <Flash3JI0> !password
05:16:00  <PublicServer> Flash3JI0: bulges
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05:24:06  <Kupuham> Hi there?
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05:37:36  <Kupuham> !password
05:37:37  <PublicServer> Kupuham: treads
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05:38:14  <Kupuham> Hi there
05:45:02  <Kupuham> So, just for the record, I have figured out around how many trucks are enough to keep them going almost non stop (as in, they reach the station, wait for a short while, and soon are full and ready to leave), at all the vehicle stations near RV transfer 4. I have added this number to the end of each station's name.
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05:47:09  <Kupuham> I do know that th production numbers have probably changed, but I have adjusted them accordingly...
05:47:12  <Kupuham> !password
05:47:12  <PublicServer> Kupuham: treads
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06:34:20  <PublicServer> Starting new game: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)'
06:34:20  <PublicServer> Landscape: normal
06:34:20  <PublicServer> Dimensions: 512x512
06:34:20  <PublicServer> Starting year: 1980
06:34:20  <PublicServer> @revision r17687
06:34:20  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #161 (r17687) | STAGE: Building | www.openttdcoop.org | Use !help for IRC-commands | Screenshots: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/img/ | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | IS2/FIRS game at #openttdcoop.dev | New players, use @quickstart"
06:42:22  <Maza> @quickstart
06:42:24  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Quickstart
06:45:24  <Kupuham> Hi there
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07:01:54  <Kupuham> Hi?
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07:21:13  <Kupuham> Hello there
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07:52:09  <V453000> !password
07:52:09  <PublicServer> V453000: salter
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07:54:39  <PublicServer> cifvts: salter
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07:55:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
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07:58:04  <Kupuham> Hey, any of you can change the number of vehicles?
07:58:19  <Kupuham> can any of you*
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08:03:38  <Kupuham> Everybody sleeping then?
08:08:18  <hylje> zZzZ
08:12:31  <Kupuham> Can you change the max cars setting?
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08:19:02  <V453000> yes its morning mate
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09:49:32  <Myster> !password
09:49:33  <PublicServer> Myster: manure
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10:08:26  <Radicalimero> !password
10:08:27  <PublicServer> Radicalimero: sunned
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10:09:55  <PublicServer> <Myster> hi
10:10:00  <PublicServer> <Radicalimero> hi
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10:58:56  <PublicServer> <Myster> what you doing?
10:59:22  <PublicServer> <Radicalimero> just checking out what is build
10:59:43  <PublicServer> <Myster> I'm a noob, to coop
10:59:44  <PublicServer> <Radicalimero> i'm gonna try !todo: connect properly
10:59:50  <PublicServer> <Radicalimero> m2 :P
11:00:53  <PublicServer> <Radicalimero> but i'm now off for lunch
11:00:56  <PublicServer> <Radicalimero> brb
11:01:14  <PublicServer> <Myster> c u
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12:14:56  <F1ce> !info
12:14:56  <PublicServer> F1ce: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Interahamwe Hutu Power'  Year Founded: 1930  Money: 919634732  Loan: 0  Value: 924713010  (T:95, R:500, P:12, S:0) unprotected
12:15:03  <F1ce> !playercount
12:15:04  <PublicServer> F1ce: Number of players: 0
12:50:47  <Flash3JI0> !password
12:50:47  <PublicServer> Flash3JI0: brooch
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14:08:06  <Mark> 'lo
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14:55:32  <Flash3JI0> !password
14:55:33  <PublicServer> Flash3JI0: lewder
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15:02:45  <Chris_Booth> !password
15:02:46  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: lewder
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15:14:45  <PublicServer> Seberoth: teases
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15:23:32  <Seberoth> !password
15:23:33  <PublicServer> Seberoth: perked
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15:33:36  <Nickman87> !players
15:33:37  <PublicServer> Nickman87: Client 426 (Orange) is Flash@3JI0, in company 1 (Interahamwe Hutu Power)
15:33:37  <PublicServer> Nickman87: Client 427 (Orange) is Chris Booth, in company 1 (Interahamwe Hutu Power)
15:33:38  <PublicServer> Nickman87: Client 432 is Spike, a spectator
15:33:38  <PublicServer> Nickman87: Client 438 is Cif, a spectator
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15:43:48  <jonde> !password
15:43:49  <PublicServer> jonde: sedans
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16:05:05  <Chris_Booth> everyone left?
16:05:13  <jonde> like it says, connection lost
16:05:16  <jonde> !password
16:05:16  <PublicServer> jonde: legacy
16:05:21  <Flash3JI0> !password
16:05:21  <PublicServer> Flash3JI0: legacy
16:05:45  <Flash3JI0> I can't connect
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16:05:51  <jonde> i guess now you can
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16:06:07  <PublicServer> <jondisti> there you go booth
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16:06:35  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> thanks
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16:10:12  <AlexanderB> !password
16:10:12  <PublicServer> AlexanderB: legacy
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16:11:36  <PublicServer> <jondisti> wonder what happened to train 91
16:12:06  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> got lost
16:12:52  <PublicServer> <jondisti> yep
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16:28:34  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> BBH 04 is now built finaly
16:28:53  <PublicServer> <jondisti> 03?
16:29:00  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yesa
16:29:04  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> thats the one
16:29:16  <PublicServer> <jondisti> how about prios?
16:29:34  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> maybe later
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16:30:25  <PublicServer> <jondisti> someone still going to build something?
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16:31:26  <PublicServer> <jondisti> okay then :P
16:31:48  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i am not finished signaling rv station
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16:34:01  <Chris_Booth> !password
16:34:01  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: stewed
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16:44:31  <Kupuham> !password
16:44:31  <PublicServer> Kupuham: totals
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16:47:13  <Kupuham> Anybody changed the max RV's yet?
16:51:14  <Ammler> !info
16:51:14  <PublicServer> Ammler: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Interahamwe Hutu Power'  Year Founded: 1930  Money: 1084875804  Loan: 0  Value: 1087165304  (T:95, R:490, P:12, S:0) unprotected
16:51:26  <Ammler> !rcon set max_roadveh
16:51:26  <PublicServer> Ammler: Current value for 'max_roadveh' is: '500' (min: 0, max: 5000)
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16:52:00  <Ammler> Chris_Booth: you pmed me today?
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16:52:52  <Kupuham> Thanks
16:54:08  <Kupuham> Trains are near max too
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16:59:52  <HDIEagle> !password
16:59:53  <PublicServer> HDIEagle: aortas
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17:01:02  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> wtf????
17:01:06  <Kupuham> ?
17:01:17  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle>  !wtf is this
17:01:44  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Road  needed to end somehow
17:01:53  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> no, it's mixing traffic
17:02:10  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Up here we don't have iron
17:02:23  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> faster traffic to outsides
17:02:25  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> not inside
17:02:45  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Yeah, but they end up using one road only here
17:03:02  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> so?
17:03:36  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> it ends up not making much of a difference
17:04:34  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> except the whole trucks having to backtrack the hell out of shit
17:04:57  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Nothing is used at that end
17:05:22  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> faster trucks go to outside, what's so hard to understand?
17:05:36  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Dude, I made that
17:05:59  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> And the reason was to avoid overtaking
17:06:06  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> what are you talking about
17:06:11  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> you're not talking about what i'm talking about
17:06:26  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Look @ RV Transfer 4
17:06:29  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> a few tiles below
17:06:33  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> is that what you mean?
17:06:54  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> you have em flipped?
17:07:05  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> say hwhat you mean
17:07:15  <Mark> !password
17:07:15  <PublicServer> Mark: innate
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17:07:22  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> ?
17:07:35  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> whatever you have...or whatever you had, it didn't match up with dcritic's layout
17:07:59  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Where?
17:08:06  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> let me revert the change
17:08:13  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Why?
17:08:16  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> you have outside going to inside
17:08:21  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> and dcritic has outside going to outside
17:08:32  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> In the extension he made?
17:09:00  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> the station is messed, isn't it
17:09:24  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Not really
17:10:21  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> if you're making the north extension different from the south extension, would help to explain it
17:10:38  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> otherwise, someone might see it as a flaw?
17:10:57  <Kupuham> The only vehicle that moves slowly is the iron dropper
17:11:16  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> There are no iron mines uptil the train station above
17:11:25  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> (Sawmill)
17:11:29  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> so you're saying erase half of the northern tracks
17:11:34  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> then when an iron mine pops up, rebuild it?
17:11:50  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Therefore, right now, there is no need to  differentiate the traffic
17:12:22  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Besides, the car limit is still here, and the primaries below aren't being used fully
17:12:49  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> there is currently no need for a w -> s ramp on bbh 02, so why bother building it correctly
17:13:52  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Because railway tracks are much more complex then roads?
17:14:04  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> excuses
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17:20:58  <HDIEagle> !password
17:20:58  <PublicServer> HDIEagle: gagged
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17:34:51  <PublicServer> <Mark> how much more are you going to mess my RV drop up?
17:35:30  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> how much do you want to mix iron drops with other cars?
17:35:51  <PublicServer> <Mark> uh?
17:36:10  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> my sentiments exactly
17:36:20  <PublicServer> <Mark> right
17:36:46  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> if you don't want faster cars on the outside but collated, say so, otherwise, do something like this
17:37:12  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> notice the lag is gone
17:37:13  <PublicServer> <Cif> Train from RV6 to FACRTORY DROP cannot go back directly
17:37:14  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> :P
17:37:35  <PublicServer> <Cif> they have to go till WOOD DROP
17:37:38  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> lag stopped once i finished my change :3
17:38:24  <Kupuham> Mark, can you change the max road vehicles?
17:38:43  <Mark> !rcon patch max_roadveh
17:38:43  <PublicServer> Mark: Current value for 'max_roadveh' is: '500' (min: 0, max: 5000)
17:38:48  <Mark> !rcon patch max_roadveh 1000
17:39:11  <Kupuham> Thanks =) Trains are near it too, but it might not be a good idea to put too many of them out there already
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17:39:35  <Mark> !trains
17:39:35  <PublicServer> Mark: !trains <integer>: set value of max_trains
17:39:44  <Mark> !rcon patch max_trains
17:39:44  <PublicServer> Mark: Current value for 'max_trains' is: '100' (min: 0, max: 5000)
17:39:48  <Mark> !trains 300
17:39:48  <PublicServer> *** Mark has set max_trains to 300
17:42:14  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> wow
17:42:25  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> ?
17:42:34  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> smaller trucks find it faster to overflow into south rv drop @ rv04
17:44:38  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> has anyone seen  a single on-road station in use on both directions simultaneously?
17:44:45  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> @ rv04?
17:44:52  <PublicServer> <jondisti> i just saw
17:45:10  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> it looks like that situation is avoided
17:45:39  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> you're sure it was one station?
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17:45:54  <PublicServer> <jondisti> pretty sure yeah
17:46:14  <PublicServer> <jondisti> try stopping 1 truck @ all of them and see if the others still use them
17:46:30  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> nope
17:46:40  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> i stopped 497, the station is not used
17:47:02  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> yeah, two won't unload in one tile from what i see
17:47:09  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> at least the pf avoidds it
17:48:22  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> let's see what happens if we isolate the network into two objects
17:49:15  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> is there any way to open up the
17:49:20  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> details with veh inf page?
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17:50:40  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> rv 04 is backing up
17:50:43  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> gah
17:51:11  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> still no two unloads in one tile
17:51:20  <PublicServer> <jondisti> at least it's possible
17:51:27  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> but the pf avoids it
17:52:03  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> i guess two trucks must turn in in the same tick :P
17:52:21  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Btw, I have played this station till ~580 vehicles
17:52:34  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Trains begun to jam before the cars
17:52:37  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> looks like it is sustaining :3
17:52:59  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Right now, yes, but we have 2.5k grains + in storage
17:53:14  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> a sheer number of cars is not a valid measurement of station capacity
17:53:19  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> you need to look at density :P
17:53:23  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> ]
17:53:26  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> What I am saying is
17:53:36  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> that with 100 more cars then we have right now
17:53:47  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> we'll need more train tracks before cars ;)
17:54:29  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> anyone care to make a truck counter?
17:54:37  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> ?
17:54:48  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> impossible :3
17:55:14  <PublicServer> <jondisti> yeah that's what i thought too :P
17:55:23  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> You can count them on the stations =´P
17:55:35  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> how would you count with logic trains/logic trucks?
17:55:36  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> :3
17:56:01  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> ooooh
17:56:16  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> i suppose if you have a queue of trucks injecting into stream of input
17:56:19  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> each with a payload
17:56:29  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> and circling back to a station to unload then reload that cargo
17:56:40  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> and have trains that transfer that cargo to another station
17:56:49  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> and subtract that amount from the maximum
17:56:54  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> you could have a count :D
17:57:03  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Easier to check the stations =)
17:57:21  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> We have 492 going to RV Transfer 4, that helps? =P
17:57:27  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> unloads per minute is boring :(
17:57:36  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> a vehicle count does nothing
17:57:48  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> if distance were doubled, you'd have half throughput roughly speaking
17:58:38  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> i'll take a measure
17:58:41  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> maybe you could timetable them
17:58:55  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> see how long they take to go and come back, check with production per month
17:59:45  <PublicServer> <jondisti> rv29 is lost :(
17:59:47  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> okay score is : 42 unloads per minute
17:59:53  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> for fast vehs
17:59:55  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> not for iron
18:00:10  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> just count how many unloads per minute :P
18:00:28  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> or trucks output per minute
18:00:33  <tussengas> hey gurls
18:02:05  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> okay, i got 53 vehs/minute this tim
18:02:35  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> And so therefore?
18:03:01  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> kupuham: Obama said "the", therefore -
18:03:26  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> Obama said "the" and Bush said "this". Therefore, Bush used one more letter than Obama.
18:03:48  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> I believe that this is in part due to Bush's love of multiples of two, whereas
18:04:00  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> Obama leads more prohibitively to multiples of 3.
18:04:13  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Your point being?
18:04:29  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> you have one point of data
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18:04:46  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> go back to your 500 rv game station and take a rate if you want to compare
18:06:33  <Kupuham> You measured in or out?
18:06:46  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> out
18:08:28  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> rv station is backing up, think it will balance out?
18:08:57  <Kupuham> 74
18:09:07  <Kupuham> just for the fast ones
18:09:27  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> You could allow them to mix up
18:09:30  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> for a while
18:09:39  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> 74 v/min is probably the maximum for this station
18:09:42  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> because we have a buffer
18:09:46  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> give it 2.2 mins to clear
18:09:49  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> if not, we need to expand
18:10:04  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> it's just getting bigger
18:10:09  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> 2.2 mins dude
18:10:13  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> i saw a gap way back
18:10:35  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> In my game they are in a constant flow
18:10:47  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> My mix is probably different though
18:10:54  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> flow is never constant
18:11:01  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> it always deviates, if only by a little bit
18:11:20  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> can we fix it?
18:11:26  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> no, its screwed
18:11:35  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> I'd say mix them at the stations
18:11:46  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> after let them go back to being outisde
18:12:00  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> well there's your problem
18:12:13  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Hey, I'm against overtaking, that's all
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18:12:20  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> They won't in the stations =D
18:12:35  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> yeah, but combine them without srewing pf
18:12:46  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> define screwing pathfinding?
18:13:03  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> putting a bias towards one path when it is intended to create a 1:1 mix
18:13:15  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> see also: sync
18:14:18  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> we should probably do something
18:14:19  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> probably
18:14:38  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> I saved and tried what I was going to do offline
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18:14:56  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Didn't work
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18:15:04  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> you just mixed the stations, didnt you
18:15:05  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> :D
18:15:05  <Seberoth> !password
18:15:06  <PublicServer> Seberoth: rectum
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18:15:24  <PublicServer> <Seberoth> hi
18:15:25  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Yep =)
18:15:31  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> The problem is, they all queued for the first one already
18:15:53  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> 2 months later it all is begining to sort out
18:16:20  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> really?
18:17:07  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> It's become jammed, but constant
18:17:13  <Flash3JI0> !password
18:17:13  <PublicServer> Flash3JI0: rectum
18:17:19  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Around  5 tiles before the bridge
18:17:25  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> oops
18:17:29  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> now it's gone, all solvedf
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18:17:41  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Wanna try my way? =D
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18:17:48  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> uhm
18:17:58  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> you mean you simulated it wtih mixed stations?
18:18:13  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Yeah, I connected both of them
18:18:32  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> it looks like it is clearing up in september as-is...wait, screw that
18:18:41  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> oh...my...god
18:18:48  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> lol...
18:18:58  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> ...that can't...be
18:19:01  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> no, no
18:19:20  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> i say expand
18:19:21  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> It's clearing
18:19:36  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> mark?
18:19:39  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Now it it's almost stable
18:19:51  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> clearing
18:19:52  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> hats more of a temporary fix tho
18:20:14  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> proceeding with expansion
18:21:06  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> what kind of expansion should we do?
18:21:39  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> just relocate iron drop?
18:21:43  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> and then mix?
18:23:53  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Could be
18:23:53  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> oh snap
18:24:01  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> yeah, station max reached
18:24:13  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> And that can't be changed, can it?
18:24:36  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> we can change station ratio, that's it
18:25:35  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> No idea of what the ratio is =x
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18:25:48  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> decrease # iron stations, inc other stations
18:29:35  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
18:29:52  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> yeah, that happens
18:30:05  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Join them from above, maybe it's better that way?
18:30:20  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> actually it does seem pretty balanced
18:30:53  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> crap!
18:31:11  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> ?
18:31:12  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> road capacity exceeded XD
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18:31:50  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> that'll do for now
18:33:23  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> k, mark, we screwed with your rv drop, just like you asked
18:33:33  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> /Mission Accomplished!/
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18:34:53  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> I'll go get lunch, brb
18:35:12  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> i'll go finish my homework, bb two days
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18:50:21  <Chris_Booth> amller i pmed you ages ago
18:50:50  <Chris_Booth> Ammler: i pmed you ages ago
18:51:03  <Chris_Booth> !password
18:51:03  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: cowboy
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18:56:59  <Ammler> Chris_Booth: hmm, it was today...
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19:04:39  <Chris_Booth> what did i say?
19:04:51  <Chris_Booth> was it at arround the early hours fo the morning?
19:04:57  <Kupuham> About?
19:05:06  <Chris_Booth> i am talking to Ammler
19:05:26  <Ammler> 3 in my zone
19:05:41  <Chris_Booth> then i was drunk
19:06:13  <Chris_Booth> did i say anything important?>
19:07:20  <Ammler> hmm, you were drunk, so it wasn't important :-P
19:07:38  <Chris_Booth> you never know it might have been
19:08:07  <Chris_Booth> !password
19:08:07  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: foyers
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19:08:35  <Kupuham> Is there a way to change the max truck stations limit?
19:08:48  <Chris_Booth> no
19:09:03  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> build 2 sets of stations
19:10:05  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> any one want to help me with RV drop 3?
19:10:51  <FrancoBegbie> evening
19:11:00  <Kupuham> Afternoon' =)
19:12:16  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> 'RV Transfer3' ?
19:12:40  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yeah
19:13:11  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Can try
19:13:49  <PublicServer> <Kupuham>  !!!Here a bad spot for the truck stations?
19:13:52  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> BBH 03 is huge
19:14:48  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> here is a fine spot
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19:16:54  <Ammler> Nickman87: around?
19:17:01  <Ammler> I found a bug in your nice patch
19:17:09  <Ammler> ESC doesn't close it anymore
19:17:36  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Don't see your sign Chris
19:17:47  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth>  your sign
19:17:51  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth>  !!!Here
19:18:00  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Yeah?
19:18:19  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yeah
19:18:39  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Should I begin then?
19:18:51  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yeah
19:18:54  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> I added 2 !slow signs
19:18:59  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> what do you want me to do to help?
19:19:03  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> just as example
19:19:42  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> on the road network?
19:19:47  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> yes
19:23:36  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> swedish houses is nice
19:24:11  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> BBH 03 is nice
19:24:21  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> swedish houses are great
19:26:24  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Isn't it easier to make them get in from below, go out from the top?
19:26:35  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Cars dont use the stations both ways
19:27:03  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> why is the sign !jams still there?
19:27:04  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> what?
19:27:39  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> It eventually will, again
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19:46:02  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Anybody want to add the trains needed @RV3?
19:46:32  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i am building at the moment
19:47:14  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> I am hmm atm
19:49:29  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> there seems no hub with balancer?
19:49:52  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> realy
19:49:53  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Where?
19:49:54  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> where?
19:50:33  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> who, so many new names :-)
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19:51:54  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> where are the was planes?
19:52:15  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> flying arround the map
19:52:46  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> you guys know the big feature of was?
19:53:01  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> planes
19:53:03  <PublicServer> <Spike> how will train orders be in the end?
19:53:08  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> no!
19:53:12  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> LIVERIES
19:53:34  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> all planes here are ugly white :'-(
19:53:35  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> like fedx
19:54:07  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> like plane 11 and 12
19:56:22  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> OMG plane 14 sucks
19:56:25  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> clanMEGA bimp
19:56:52  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> it is the only livery for it
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19:57:16  <PublicServer> <SmatZ> evening
19:57:33  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> why did you remove it?
19:57:34  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> It works o/
19:57:37  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> heya SmatZ
19:57:44  <PublicServer> <SmatZ> hello AmmIer
19:57:45  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> coz it was annoyinh me
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19:57:52  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> hey SmatZy
19:57:53  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> good evening
19:57:56  <PublicServer> <SmatZ> hello planetmaker!
19:58:01  <PublicServer> <SmatZ> evening Chris Booth :)
19:58:02  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> you don't like the MEGA guys?
19:58:11  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no i like clan mega
19:58:16  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no problem with them
19:58:24  <PublicServer> * SmatZ knows MEGA guys not
19:58:27  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but it blimp was burning my eyes
19:58:27  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> but seems like :-P
19:58:43  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> SmatZ: petert was mod there
19:58:46  <PublicServer> <SmatZ> ah
19:58:55  <PublicServer> <SmatZ> must have been a nice, intelectual place
19:58:56  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> and yorick is the coder
19:59:29  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> well, even those kicked him ;-)
19:59:35  <PublicServer> <SmatZ> fine :) why not :)
19:59:36  <PublicServer> <SmatZ> hehe
20:00:01  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> who kicked who
20:00:05  <PublicServer> <SmatZ> actually I don't have much against yorick
20:00:31  <PublicServer> <SmatZ> ohoh default trainset :)
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20:00:54  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> hehe :-)
20:00:57  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> Like it?
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20:01:00  <PublicServer> <SmatZ> yeah :)
20:01:09  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> I thought it was time again
20:01:13  <PublicServer> <SmatZ> :-)
20:01:14  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> and so did Chris
20:01:23  <PublicServer> <SmatZ> ;-)
20:01:34  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i thought it was going to be an RV game
20:01:38  <PublicServer> <SmatZ> :)
20:01:41  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> So, we have 3 working RV stations
20:01:43  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> so i didnt add a train set
20:01:51  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> :-) Obviously you mis-understood my intention, Chris :-)
20:01:53  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> SRO time?
20:01:59  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> I intended a game just like it is now ;-)
20:02:02  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i built a 4th
20:02:03  <PublicServer> <SmatZ> :-)
20:02:06  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> SRO is the best way to go
20:02:34  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> 2 stations left to build
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20:02:41  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but i am not going to build them
20:02:46  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> as i dont want to build everything
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20:20:22  <jonde> !password
20:20:22  <PublicServer> jonde: fluffs
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20:32:04  <PublicServer> <jondisti> pretty much slow curves here
20:32:17  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Here = ?
20:32:34  <PublicServer> <jondisti> whole network
20:33:08  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> anything DCritic built
20:33:11  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and coal drop
20:33:56  <PublicServer> <jondisti> and oil station
20:34:48  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and BBH 01
20:34:57  <PublicServer> <Spike> i can redo coal drop
20:34:59  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and BBH 05
20:38:44  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i am off for a bit now
20:38:50  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but will be back later
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20:39:58  <FrancoBegbie> !password
20:39:58  <PublicServer> FrancoBegbie: droned
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20:46:20  <PublicServer> <Spike> there coal drop should be better now
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21:03:52  <Radicalimero> !password
21:03:52  <PublicServer> Radicalimero: rubies
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21:04:20  <PublicServer> <Radicalimero> hi
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21:54:17  <Kupuham> So, what are you guys doing?
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22:07:12  <Kupuham> !players
22:07:13  <PublicServer> Kupuham: Client 449 (Orange) is Kupuham, in company 1 (Interahamwe Hutu Power)
22:07:13  <PublicServer> Kupuham: Client 490 (Orange) is AmmIer, in company 1 (Interahamwe Hutu Power)
22:07:13  <PublicServer> Kupuham: Client 486 (Orange) is jondisti, in company 1 (Interahamwe Hutu Power)
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22:36:21  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> RV Transfer 4 is jamming again, any suggestions?
22:37:18  <PublicServer> <jondisti> can't figure out anything
22:37:57  <PublicServer> <jondisti> didn't even know there is this truck station limit
22:39:20  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Btw, no need for more coal trains in RV4
22:40:13  <PublicServer> <jondisti> it's gonna be balanced when we can use SRO
22:40:44  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> only way I can figure this out is by creating a dummy train
22:40:53  <PublicServer> <jondisti> for what?
22:41:03  <Kupuham> So the iron truck guys become another station
22:42:05  <PublicServer> <jondisti> and it's gonna give us 4 truck stations more
22:42:14  <PublicServer> <jondisti> maybe coal would be better
22:43:24  <Kupuham> ?
22:46:48  <PublicServer> <jondisti> the iron ore trucks are using only 4 truck stations and they're not jamming so why make separate station for them?
22:49:27  <Kupuham> Because then we can add 4 more to the jamming guys
22:50:40  <Kupuham> The problem is that they don't use shared orders, for some reason....so to reroute them will be a pain
22:51:49  <PublicServer> <jondisti> i guess 4 stations more for that amount of traffic wouldn't do so much good
22:54:12  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Can I try the train hack?
22:54:43  <PublicServer> <jondisti> yeah why not
22:54:52  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> It's totally cheating though
22:55:03  <PublicServer> <jondisti> it's pretty common
22:55:10  <PublicServer> <jondisti> wait
22:55:15  <PublicServer> <jondisti> i'll show you
22:55:33  <PublicServer> <jondisti> make it 2xTL
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22:55:47  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> ?
22:57:38  <PublicServer> <jondisti> oh
23:00:46  <PublicServer> <jondisti> some of them have shared orders
23:00:52  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Some
23:13:53  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> And there it is
23:17:16  <tussengas> evening
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23:19:15  <tussengas> !password
23:19:15  <PublicServer> tussengas: slopes
23:19:28  <tussengas> slopes it is
23:19:30  <PublicServer> *** tussengas joined the game
23:19:44  <PublicServer> <jondisti> hello
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23:26:40  <Kupuham> Almost @max vehicles again
23:26:41  <tussengas> !players
23:26:42  <PublicServer> tussengas: Client 492 (Orange) is tussengas, in company 1 (Interahamwe Hutu Power)
23:26:42  <PublicServer> tussengas: Client 449 (Orange) is Kupuham, in company 1 (Interahamwe Hutu Power)
23:26:42  <PublicServer> tussengas: Client 495 (Orange) is Chris Booth, in company 1 (Interahamwe Hutu Power)
23:26:42  <PublicServer> tussengas: Client 490 (Orange) is AmmIer, in company 1 (Interahamwe Hutu Power)
23:26:42  <PublicServer> tussengas: Client 486 (Orange) is jondisti, in company 1 (Interahamwe Hutu Power)
23:26:46  <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (connection lost)
23:27:02  <Chris_Booth> what for
23:27:05  <PublicServer> <tussengas> imagen the posibility without that train :P
23:27:06  <Chris_Booth> RVs or trains?
23:27:08  <PublicServer> <tussengas> rv
23:27:13  <PublicServer> <tussengas> 970
23:27:20  <PublicServer> <tussengas> 237 trains
23:27:34  <tussengas> !help
23:27:35  <PublicServer> tussengas: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands
23:27:52  <tussengas> !info
23:27:52  <PublicServer> tussengas: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Interahamwe Hutu Power'  Year Founded: 1930  Money: 1909596787  Loan: 10000  Value: 1919234007  (T:237, R:977, P:13, S:0) unprotected
23:27:55  <Chris_Booth> you cant adjust them
23:28:18  <PublicServer> <tussengas> only from 'inside' ?
23:28:22  <Chris_Booth> have to call a member
23:28:30  <Chris_Booth> no you need to be a member
23:28:32  <PublicServer> <tussengas> you aren't?
23:28:36  <Chris_Booth> i am not
23:28:39  <PublicServer> <tussengas> :o
23:28:55  <tussengas> never noticed you where a + and no @
23:28:58  <Chris_Booth> !rcon
23:28:58  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: you are not allowed to use !rcon
23:29:16  <Chris_Booth> lol
23:29:31  <PublicServer> <tussengas> i kinda supposed you were an member
23:29:42  <Chris_Booth> why is that?
23:29:59  <PublicServer> <tussengas> read the voting bord :P
23:30:18  <Chris_Booth> i put signs all over the voting board
23:30:18  <PublicServer> <tussengas> you often got the best plans
23:30:24  <Chris_Booth> no
23:30:31  <Chris_Booth> this is only my 4th plan to win
23:30:42  <Chris_Booth> but 3 have been in the last 20 games
23:31:00  <PublicServer> <tussengas> im playing only in the last 20 games (10 actually)
23:31:55  <Chris_Booth> aaah i see
23:32:29  <Chris_Booth> i am just a quite a good builder
23:32:33  <tussengas> and well, quite some @'s don't show their skills at P
23:32:34  <Chris_Booth> and bossy
23:32:34  <tussengas> ps
23:32:59  <tussengas> so in to the things i've seen, your work seems most impressive
23:33:23  <Chris_Booth> hardley
23:34:31  <PublicServer> <tussengas> but maybe i under estimate the requirements of being an member ;)
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23:35:24  <Chris_Booth> i cant sync tonight
23:35:33  <Chris_Booth> my connection is being gay
23:35:38  <Chris_Booth> i will have to play tomoz
23:35:42  <Chris_Booth> night night all
23:35:49  <PublicServer> <tussengas> but of all members, i think mark is the only one who shows sometimes some things in PS, guess most of them are past the point of PS and waiting for other things
23:35:58  <PublicServer> <tussengas> NN
23:36:07  <Kupuham> Night
23:36:20  <Chris_Booth> no tneo plays
23:36:22  <Kupuham> You sure the 'pro' server is that active?
23:36:23  <Chris_Booth> and combuster
23:36:36  <Chris_Booth> the pro server is as dead as a dodo
23:36:59  <Chris_Booth> we have had the same game since the start of PSG 134
23:37:02  <PublicServer> <tussengas> combuster , true. but i haven't seen tneo in the last ps-games
23:37:35  <PublicServer> <tussengas> pro-server got bored? or psg got too pro?
23:37:37  <Chris_Booth> thats 27 games on here and none on pro zone
23:37:54  <Chris_Booth> pro zone has ECS on it
23:37:59  <PublicServer> <tussengas> ecs?
23:38:03  <Chris_Booth> and no one is a fan of ECS
23:38:05  <tussengas> !ecs
23:38:12  <Chris_Booth> extended construction sector
23:38:20  <tussengas> !wiki
23:38:20  <PublicServer> tussengas: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Main_Page
23:38:24  <Chris_Booth> more industries with stupid stock piling
23:38:39  <tussengas> ah, like we had 1 map
23:38:46  <Chris_Booth> http://wiki.openttd.org/ECS_Vectors
23:39:04  <Chris_Booth> the grfs look nice
23:39:09  <Chris_Booth> but there are just to many
23:39:17  <Chris_Booth> with tomany processing options
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23:39:28  <Chris_Booth> Ammler: can we have more RVs?
23:39:40  <Ammler> yes, WE CAN
23:39:49  <Kupuham> Can't you choose to use just one or two?
23:40:02  <Ammler> !info
23:40:02  <PublicServer> Ammler: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Interahamwe Hutu Power'  Year Founded: 1930  Money: 1949109893  Loan: 10000  Value: 1958507119  (T:241, R:1000, P:13, S:0) unprotected
23:40:10  <Chris_Booth> ooh you can choose to use as few or as little vectors as you want
23:40:15  <tussengas> but is every game in pro-zone with ecs or just thisone? (and why not skip this map then?)
23:40:24  <Chris_Booth> no just this one
23:40:28  <Ammler> !rcon set max_roadveh 1200
23:40:53  <Chris_Booth> just waiting for a new map and someone to archive it I would suppose
23:41:02  <Chris_Booth> but one can be bothereds
23:41:03  <tussengas> :)
23:42:45  <tussengas> http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=ECSVectors intresting
23:43:02  <Kupuham> whew...200 more? You underestimate my cloning powers =P
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23:43:13  <Ammler> [01:38] <Chris_Booth> extended construction sector <-- not quite right :-)
23:43:26  <Chris_Booth> cargo?
23:43:33  <Ammler> extended cargo scheme, I would guess
23:43:48  <Chris_Booth> schema
23:43:53  <Kupuham> "The full ECS (Extended Cargo Scheme) specification defines 32 cargos and the corresponding industry schema uses 35 of 37 industries. "
23:44:18  <Chris_Booth> some can C&P from the wiki
23:44:24  <Chris_Booth> Kupuham:
23:44:31  <tussengas> :)
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23:44:41  <Ammler> yes, thanks :-)
23:44:45  <PeterT> hey everyone
23:44:51  <Ammler> hey alone :-)
23:44:51  <tussengas> hi
23:44:51  <PeterT> !password
23:44:52  <PublicServer> PeterT: grille
23:44:52  <Chris_Booth> hi PeterT
23:44:58  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Holla
23:45:04  <PublicServer> *** Peter joined the game
23:45:05  <PeterT> still not playing?
23:45:14  <Chris_Booth> i have played alot
23:45:17  <tussengas> well, ecs looks kinda hard but intresting
23:45:29  <Chris_Booth> i have built a BBH and a few stations
23:45:39  <Ammler> without parameter cheats, it is hard level game play
23:45:41  <Chris_Booth> and fixed the things i moaned about last night
23:45:54  <tussengas> parameter cheats?
23:46:02  <Ammler> like we used at prozone
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23:46:07  <Ammler> parameter 15
23:46:12  <tussengas> what does it do?
23:46:14  <Chris_Booth> changing the parametres to adjust processing times
23:46:29  <Ammler> disable closing, limits etc.
23:46:29  <Chris_Booth> to reduce stock piling
23:46:32  <tussengas> at least chris speaks englissch ;)
23:46:59  <Chris_Booth> there is no ch in english
23:47:00  <Ammler> well, you are on the wiki :P
23:47:16  <Ammler> there is no e in English
23:47:38  <tussengas> ch ftw :p
23:47:41  <Chris_Booth> is the map still full of slows at BBH 01 and a few badly built stations?
23:48:01  <PublicServer> <tussengas> the psg or prozone-game?
23:48:08  <Chris_Booth> PSG
23:48:20  <Chris_Booth> pro zone doesnt have a BBH 01
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23:48:33  <Chris_Booth> is has a BBH a1 b1 ... e1
23:48:40  <Ammler> short visit
23:48:44  <PublicServer> <tussengas> don't see slows at bbh01
23:49:09  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Damn, RV Transfer 2 was raided by a factory
23:49:37  <PublicServer> <tussengas> :P
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23:49:59  <Chris_Booth> use transfer orders not drop orsers
23:50:01  <Chris_Booth> orders
23:50:06  <Chris_Booth> then it cant be raided
23:50:52  <PublicServer> <tussengas> btw
23:51:07  <PublicServer> <tussengas> isnt it a lil ovedone @ "Petborough mines"
23:51:17  <PublicServer> <tussengas> about 8 RV's waiting
23:51:20  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> BBH 01 does have slows in it still
23:51:41  <PublicServer> <tussengas> ah i see
23:51:56  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> personaly BBH 03 it the neatest
23:52:07  <PublicServer> <tussengas> dubble bents at the radiotower
23:52:38  <PublicServer> <tussengas> you made it ... :p
23:52:48  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i jsut realised it is wrong
23:53:24  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i am missing connections
23:55:24  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i missed the connections from sawmill to rv and back
23:55:39  <PublicServer> <tussengas> 3 !slows in bbh01.. i kinda see what you mean :P
23:56:23  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Factory is unbalanced btw
23:56:34  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> half of it is neer used
23:56:45  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> never*
23:56:55  <PublicServer> <tussengas> wich factory, drop, goodsdrop, goodspickup?
23:57:08  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> FACTORY GOODS PICKUP
23:57:23  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> The one with the floating factory DCritic made
23:57:59  <PublicServer> <tussengas> that eyecandy...
23:58:05  <PublicServer> <tussengas> is just eyepain!
23:59:47  <PublicServer> <tussengas> but... Dcritic got more styles wich arn't my cup of tea... heavy TF often and things like that

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