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Log for #openttdcoop on 31st October 2009:
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04:18:23  <Zarenor> !players
04:18:25  <PublicServer> Zarenor: There are currently no clients connected to the server
04:18:46  <Zarenor> 1info
04:18:49  <Zarenor> !info
04:18:50  <PublicServer> Zarenor: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Shinkansen Inc.'  Year Founded: 2000  Money: 3233436078  Loan: 0  Value: 3238004330  (T:528, R:234, P:0, S:7) unprotected
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10:02:22  <pugi> good morning >:3
10:03:10  <pugi> !players
10:03:12  <PublicServer> pugi: There are currently no clients connected to the server
10:03:35  <^Spike^> mornin
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10:37:29  <damalix> !download win32
10:37:29  <PublicServer> damalix: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r17847/openttd-trunk-r17847-windows-win32.zip
10:55:45  <damalix> !players
10:55:46  <PublicServer> damalix: There are currently no clients connected to the server
11:00:09  <damalix> !help
11:00:10  <PublicServer> damalix: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands
11:12:07  <damalix> !grf
11:12:07  <PublicServer> damalix: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/GRF (Version 7.3)
11:14:35  <pugi> any problems?
11:14:39  <damalix> !password
11:14:39  <PublicServer> damalix: idlest
11:14:53  <damalix> no, just a new install since I'm not at home :p
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11:15:09  <pugi> ah okay ^^
11:15:31  <PublicServer> <Damalix> I wanted to have a look to my island
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12:07:57  <damalix> !players
12:07:59  <PublicServer> damalix: There are currently no clients connected to the server
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12:39:40  <tonyf12> !password
12:39:40  <PublicServer> tonyf12: belfry
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12:44:56  <planetmaker> !playercount
12:44:56  <PublicServer> planetmaker: Number of players: 1
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12:53:16  <tonyf12> !password
12:53:16  <PublicServer> tonyf12: matted
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12:54:37  <tonyf12> Weird... What setting could I have changed that makes CityStations not work? They work in the co-op game, but not in mine (greyed out at build screen) using the same build.
12:55:23  <[com]buster> Date?
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12:56:10  <tonyf12> I didn't realise stations were restricted by date. *facepalm* I'm such a noob,
12:56:32  <[com]buster> Most aren't, that's why
12:56:39  <[com]buster> (and it wasn't a noob question)
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13:00:21  <tonyf12> !password
13:00:21  <PublicServer> tonyf12: matted
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14:33:40  <Chris_Booth> hello all
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14:35:11  <Chris_Booth> !password
14:35:11  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: obtuse
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14:59:12  <Zarenor> !players
14:59:14  <PublicServer> Zarenor: There are currently no clients connected to the server
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15:02:40  *** Webster sets mode: +o mark
15:03:03  <mark> 'lo
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15:04:06  <PublicServer> <Mark> I GOT A TOYO VIEW
15:05:14  <Gleeb_> TOYO VIEW?
15:05:18  <hylje> tokyo
15:05:25  <Gleeb_> mmm
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15:18:11  <damalix> !password
15:18:12  <PublicServer> damalix: jersey
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15:21:53  <mark> damalix: are you working on anything?
15:22:18  <damalix> I'm not :p
15:22:22  <Seppel> !password
15:22:22  <PublicServer> Seppel: pillar
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15:22:39  <PublicServer> <Damalix> I was having a look
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15:28:42  <mark> !save
15:28:42  <PublicServer> Saving game...
15:28:43  <PublicServer> Game saved
15:28:55  <mark> !transfer 165 game.sav
15:28:57  <PublicServer> mark: PublicServerGame_165_Final.sav
15:28:58  <PublicServer> mark: Transfer done. (/home/openttd/website/public/save/game.sav->http://www.openttdcoop.org//files/PublicServer_archive/PublicServerGame_165_Final.sav)
15:29:35  <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players)
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15:29:45  <damalix> !password
15:29:45  <PublicServer> damalix: pillar
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15:29:59  <PublicServer> <Damalix> Aha
15:30:04  <PublicServer> <Damalix> New map :p
15:30:55  <Zarenor> !info
15:30:55  <PublicServer> Zarenor: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Flonnley Transport'  Year Founded: 1970  Money: 99808  Loan: 100000  Value: 1  (T:0, R:0, P:0, S:0) unprotected
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15:31:07  <mark> !setpsg 165
15:31:18  <mark> @op
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15:32:07  <mark> @setpsg 165
15:32:07  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #165 (r17847) | STAGE: Planning | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart & !help | Screenshots: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/img/ | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | IS2/FIRS game at #openttdcoop.dev"
15:32:11  <mark> @stage MM
15:32:11  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #165 (r17847) | STAGE: MM | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart & !help | Screenshots: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/img/ | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | IS2/FIRS game at #openttdcoop.dev"
15:32:22  <Chris_Booth> here comes one of my amazing plans
15:32:27  <PeterT> new game?
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15:32:33  <Chris_Booth> !password
15:32:33  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: pillar
15:32:34  <PublicServer> <Mark> no
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15:32:51  <PublicServer> <Mark> i change the topic to confuse people
15:32:58  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> lol
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15:33:42  <jondisti> !password
15:33:42  <PublicServer> jondisti: pillar
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15:34:11  <Webster> The third coop bot
15:34:17  <PublicServer> <Mark> rather walk it to Feningway-on-sea
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15:35:09  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> thats better
15:35:15  <PublicServer> <Damalix> :)
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15:36:34  <XeryusTC> !password
15:36:34  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: pillar
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15:36:48  <mark> !rcon patch plane_speed 1
15:36:50  <XeryusTC> hmm, new game already?
15:36:55  <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah
15:37:04  <XeryusTC> that's quite soon isnt it?
15:37:11  <PublicServer> <Mark> not really
15:37:29  <Zarenor> Methinks mark got bored because his island ws finished, and he didn't like all the noobwork on the ICE ML
15:37:41  <PublicServer> <Mark> youthinks wrong
15:37:50  <XeryusTC> heh, i just finished a bit of sbahn yesterday
15:37:55  <Zarenor> eh. that happens pretty frequently
15:37:58  <XeryusTC> like, started building it only then :P
15:38:06  <PeterT> what was the TL in PSG164?
15:38:11  <PublicServer> <Mark> 7
15:38:12  <Zarenor> Yeah, I had about 5 more cties to build
15:38:14  <PeterT> I'm trying to write the archive
15:38:16  <PeterT> thanks
15:38:23  <PeterT> map size?
15:38:29  <PublicServer> <Mark> 1024*256
15:38:33  <Zarenor> TL7 ICE, variable from 2 to 10 Sbahns
15:39:01  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh
15:39:04  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> tl 3 this must be!
15:39:11  <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah
15:39:16  <PublicServer> <Mark> go make a plan already :P
15:39:57  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i am stumped for bad ideas at the moment
15:40:03  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> so i cant make a plan
15:40:10  <PeterT> whats that japenese train set?
15:40:15  <PeterT> shikasen?
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15:40:20  <PublicServer> <Mark> yes
15:40:23  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no jap set 2.0
15:40:26  <PublicServer> <Mark> shinkansen
15:41:23  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> mah
15:41:28  <PeterT> thanks
15:41:30  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i dont have any inspiration :o
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15:42:13  <Razaekel> !password
15:42:13  <PublicServer> Razaekel: ulcers
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15:43:15  <PeterT> somebody want to upload the save game for PSG 164 so I can make a screenshot?
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15:43:22  <PeterT> !revision
15:43:23  <PublicServer> PeterT: Game version is r17847
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15:43:38  <damalix> !password
15:43:38  <PublicServer> damalix: ulcers
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15:47:37  <PeterT> Mark: theres a problem
15:48:12  <PeterT> the "final" save for psg 164 is named incorrectly
15:48:24  <PeterT> it's called PSG_165_Final.sav
15:51:15  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> we have our first network plan
15:53:37  <PeterT> !password
15:53:37  <PublicServer> PeterT: quites
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15:56:15  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> who has senn the google haloween logo?
15:56:44  <PublicServer> <Damalix> you can click on it
15:57:04  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> its quite cool
15:57:05  <Razaekel> 4 of em
15:57:29  <PublicServer> <Peter> interesting :)
15:57:39  <PublicServer> <Peter> click or treat!
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15:58:23  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> anyone else here gunn make a plan?
15:58:55  <Zarenor> !password
15:58:55  <PublicServer> Zarenor: quites
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15:59:48  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> erm mark you left breakdowns on
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16:05:00  <mark> !rcon patch breakdowns 0
16:05:00  <PublicServer> mark: 'breakdowns' is an unknown setting.
16:05:10  <mark> !rcon patch vehicle_breakdowns 0
16:05:13  <mark> !setdef
16:05:13  <PublicServer> *** mark has disabled wait_for_pbs_path, wait_twoway_signal, wait_oneway_signal, ai_in_multiplayer enabled no_servicing_if_no_breakdowns, extra_dynamite, mod_road_rebuild, forbid_90_deg and set path_backoff_interval to 1, train_acceleration_model to 1
16:06:20  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> Booth: only the crosspiece is 3L3R?
16:06:47  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yes
16:07:02  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> should be the only realy high traffic area
16:07:10  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> plus makes it more fun
16:07:26  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> as i know the network will need atleast 1 extra line everywhere
16:07:53  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> Okay.. so you are planning for expansion then?
16:08:00  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yes
16:08:21  <damalix> !password
16:08:21  <PublicServer> damalix: weirdo
16:08:34  <damalix> -_-
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16:10:21  <PublicServer> <Damalix> TL2 only chris ?
16:10:33  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> TL2 FTW
16:10:35  <^Spike^> !password
16:10:35  <PublicServer> ^Spike^: weirdo
16:10:41  <^Spike^> ty PublicServer
16:10:42  <^Spike^> :
16:10:43  <^Spike^> :)
16:10:55  <^Spike^> the server knows me already :D
16:10:57  <damalix> ah you're too
16:11:14  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> XD
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16:11:34  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and we have had TL2 for ages
16:11:39  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> hi wierdo
16:11:39  <PublicServer> <Spike> random map?
16:11:53  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> mark made random map
16:11:54  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> alright... I an't come up with antthing better than booth this time around, so I'll not bother...
16:12:14  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ooh spike can you turn breakdowns off?
16:12:23  <^Spike^> what you pay me.. ;)
16:12:30  <^Spike^> !rcon patch vehicle_breakdowns
16:12:31  <PublicServer> ^Spike^: Current value for 'vehicle_breakdowns' is: '0' (min: 0, max: 2)
16:12:33  <^Spike^> it's off
16:12:37  <^Spike^> mark was ahead of me long ago
16:12:39  <^Spike^> :D
16:13:55  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ooh i didnt see that
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16:18:32  <Razaekel> booth
16:18:40  <Razaekel> blog the 2048x!
16:19:31  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> raz soon
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17:33:43  <planetmaker> http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Map_Preparation <-- I prepared this page to summarize what settings are a requirement for us and what map makers should pay attention to when they make a map for a game on our servers
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18:55:05  <Maza> hey
18:55:08  <Maza> anyone from germany?
18:55:32  <Maza> (or switzerland or austria(
19:01:31  <De_Ghosty> asdf
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19:09:40  <planetmaker> Maza: if you've got a question, you might just want to ask it ;-)
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19:10:55  <pugi> yes mark
19:10:57  <pugi> Maza
19:10:59  <pugi> i am
19:11:09  <pugi> oh, and planetmaker of course :p
19:11:20  <pugi> sorry, didn't notice :P
19:12:04  <pugi> !password
19:12:04  <PublicServer> pugi: encase
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19:12:37  <pugi> oh, new map
19:13:10  <Maza> pugi: http://www.fsnordic.net/discussion/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=90540.0;id=230358;image which italian mountain is that?
19:13:21  <Maza> pugi: it's taken at roughly 2400 meters
19:13:24  <pugi> how should i know?
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19:13:28  <pugi> :D
19:13:35  <pugi> ask some italians
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19:59:08  <damalix> !password
19:59:08  <PublicServer> damalix: chicks
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20:45:43  <Razaekel> @clcalc
20:45:43  <Webster> Razaekel: (clcalc <railtype> [<tilt>] <cl|km/h>) -- For a number <30 this calculates the speed for <cl> on <railtype>. For any other numbers, this calculates the CL required for <railtype> travelling at <km/h>, assuming TL is small enough. [<tilt>] will apply tilt bonuses to the calculation.
20:46:06  <Razaekel> @clcalc maglev 611
20:46:06  <Webster> Razaekel: Required CL for maglev at 611km/h is 7 (13 half tiles) or TL
20:47:02  <Chris_Booth> !password
20:47:02  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: motels
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20:47:48  <Razaekel> @clcalc maglev 643
20:47:48  <Webster> Razaekel: Required CL for maglev at 643km/h is 7 (13 half tiles) or TL
20:48:06  <Chris_Booth> Razaekel: why are you checking maglev CL?
20:48:16  <Razaekel> solo map
20:48:21  <Chris_Booth> aah i see
20:48:30  <Chris_Booth> you can talk to webster in private
20:48:35  <Chris_Booth> and not spam the channel
20:48:50  <Razaekel> but i like spamming
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20:58:32  <^Spike^> spamming is out daily work? :)
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20:59:43  <Kupuham> !info
20:59:43  <PublicServer> Kupuham: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Flonnley Transport'  Year Founded: 1970  Money: 11226752  Loan: 0  Value: 12338673  (T:0, R:0, P:5, S:0) unprotected
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22:09:02  <pugi> !password
22:09:02  <PublicServer> pugi: lazied
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22:17:14  <Chris_Booth> pugi: do you want to play?
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22:33:21  <pugi> no
22:33:54  <Chris_Booth> !password
22:33:54  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: locker
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22:43:15  <Zuu> !grf
22:43:16  <PublicServer> Zuu: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/GRF (Version 7.3)
22:54:02  <planetmaker> you'll probably need to update some also from bananas, Zuu
22:54:22  <planetmaker> preferably from the MP join screen as some might not be available (anymore) otherwise
22:54:31  <Zuu> planetmaker: I wasn't looking for actually downloading the pack. But for the name of the legacy packs.
22:54:45  <planetmaker> ah, oh, right :-)
22:55:09  <planetmaker> unless you load very old savegames, of course, you don't need them.
22:55:18  <planetmaker> But I guess you're around long enough to have them :-P
22:56:01  <Zuu> I think I will make the next version non-beta, because I can't really see what more to add. But before doing that I'll add a big warning to users to not store their super-important documents in the #openttdcoop grf pack directory since that directory might get removed by the program on updates. :-)
22:56:30  <planetmaker> why would it do so?
22:56:50  <planetmaker> you could basically just overwrite
22:56:56  <Zuu> Because on major updates I and Ammeler agreed that that would be the best.
22:57:05  <planetmaker> he :-)
22:57:07  <planetmaker> ok
22:57:27  <Zuu> On non-major updates it uses the update packages.
22:57:48  <planetmaker> !auto
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22:58:00  <planetmaker> eh... !download
22:58:03  <planetmaker> !download
22:58:04  <PublicServer> planetmaker: !download autostart|autottd|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x
22:58:12  <Ammler> legacy is never needed for archive saves, how many times did I told you that already?
22:58:13  <planetmaker> you're talking about autoupdate, right?
22:58:23  <planetmaker> Ammler: everytime, I guess :-)
22:58:28  <Ammler> :-D
22:59:01  <planetmaker> but yet it is. What's the point otherwise of it?
22:59:02  <Zuu> But legacy is needed if you upgarde to 7.0 and want to use 6.something at the same time right?
22:59:19  <Ammler> joining servers with old packs
22:59:37  <Ammler> the only reason, nothing else
22:59:42  <planetmaker> still it is needed: you need the old ISR version. Do we have that in the new one? Not afaik
22:59:54  <Ammler> that is a bug :-)
22:59:55  <planetmaker> Or I wouldn't have spent hours on this silly ISR grfID madness
22:59:57  <Zuu> Eg. if Pro gets the next version but public uses an older pack or the other way around.
23:00:16  <Ammler> and fixed in grfpack 8.0 :-P
23:00:20  <planetmaker> :-P
23:00:36  <planetmaker> you want my collection of ISR grfs?
23:00:53  <Ammler> no need, grfpack trunk have all important
23:00:58  <planetmaker> I once made the effort to download each I could find in the LOOOONG ISR thread in the forums ;-)
23:01:12  <hylje> wat's isr
23:01:13  <planetmaker> I know. It's not even advisable actually
23:01:35  <Chris_Booth> why do we need a GRF 8.x?
23:01:39  <planetmaker> OpenTTD will then pick the wrong one as things are - if not the very exact MD5 sum is found
23:01:41  <Ammler> hylje: a buggy versioned newgrf
23:01:41  <Chris_Booth> when we now have bananas?
23:02:04  <planetmaker> Chris_Booth: many newgrf are still not on bananas
23:02:18  <planetmaker> and there's no point to download old versions of those which are
23:02:27  <Ammler> and i.e. old versions of isr won't go to bananas
23:02:44  <Chris_Booth> what does ISR mean?
23:02:55  <Ammler> @wiki ISR
23:02:57  <Webster> Search results for "ISR" - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=ISR
23:03:21  <Chris_Booth> no pages on ISR
23:03:35  <Ammler> @isr
23:03:57  <Ammler> @ISR
23:03:58  <planetmaker> industrial stations
23:04:14  <Chris_Booth> just about to say was it that
23:04:46  <planetmaker> they messed up big time the savegame compatibility between 0.7 and 0.8
23:05:15  <planetmaker> they did it so thoroughly that there's 100% crash chance.
23:05:21  <hylje> how could they
23:05:36  <planetmaker> it wouldn't matter, if they had changed the grfID
23:05:38  <hylje> so if you saved a game with 0.7 and loaded it with 0.8
23:05:48  <planetmaker> as it defines compatibility
23:06:10  <planetmaker> basically it announce itself as compatible while it 100% is not
23:06:37  <pugi> !password
23:06:37  <PublicServer> pugi: tumble
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23:06:59  <Ammler> all grfs in _obsolete are there for such or similar reason
23:07:09  <planetmaker> :-)
23:07:28  <planetmaker> so for 0.8 of the grfpack we move everything there? ;-)
23:08:42  <Ammler> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/grfpack/issues <-- 0.8 is mainly removing...
23:08:59  <pugi> when do we start building? :D
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23:10:47  <jondisti> !password
23:10:47  <PublicServer> jondisti: cluing
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23:12:50  <Chris_Booth> ammler have you moved UKRS to obselete in new GRF pack?
23:13:47  <Ammler> why?
23:14:44  <Ammler> why shall we keep ukrs in the pack?
23:15:02  <Chris_Booth> no PJ1K should replace UKRS
23:15:23  <Ammler> it doesn't matter, pikkas grf will go completely
23:15:33  <Ammler> they have a very bad license anyway...
23:15:39  <Chris_Booth> realy even NARS2?
23:16:08  <Chris_Booth> NARS2 is a great GRF
23:16:28  <Ammler> still ugly license :-P
23:16:58  <KenjiE20> and both are on bananas, so why double them up?
23:17:06  <Ammler> shht
23:17:09  <Zarenor> What's so bad about the liscense
23:17:11  <Zarenor> ?
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23:17:29  <Ammler> Zarenor: it is like no license
23:17:35  <KenjiE20> because the grf pack has to be able to conform to all to distro
23:17:40  <Chris_Booth> UKRS has a realy bad licence and has copies of original GRFs
23:17:51  <Ammler> KenjiE20: well, we have the persmission :-)
23:18:04  <KenjiE20> that's conforming :)
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23:18:21  <KenjiE20> also;
23:18:24  <KenjiE20> define: isr
23:18:24  <Webster> Industry Stations Renewal (GRF), see: www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=705380
23:18:25  <Ammler> but the "real" reason is indeed bananas
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23:19:10  <Ammler> we should release 8.0 just to fix this annoying isr bug ;-)
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23:19:54  <Ammler> and to say hello to the many new bugs :-P
23:20:13  <KenjiE20> quite
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23:21:44  <Ammler> Chris_Booth: ukrs has also original graphics?
23:21:53  <Ammler> thought that is only on pbi
23:22:05  <Chris_Booth> no
23:22:17  <Chris_Booth> the eurostar is just a repainted asiastar
23:22:30  <hylje> which is a knock off of the real eurostar
23:22:42  <Chris_Booth> and the A4 is from the orginal GRF
23:22:59  <Chris_Booth> also some of the wagons a clones of original GRFs
23:23:10  <Chris_Booth> at BROS we had this talk with pikka
23:24:04  <Chris_Booth> ooh and his HST was the otherone that he borrowed from the original GRFs
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23:26:19  <Chris_Booth> are you removing all bananas GRFS?
23:26:27  <Chris_Booth> such as jap set and 2cc?
23:26:37  <Ammler> check the link i pasted
23:27:00  <Ammler> and feel free to open new tickets, if I forgot something
23:28:38  <hylje> Yes, the container colours were discussed a couple of pages back. The consensus was that there are too many red ones.
23:36:59  <Chris_Booth> PJ1K isnt on bananas but it is only half a set at the moment
23:37:12  <Chris_Booth> not even worth looking at
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