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02:07:03 <PublicServer> <FiCE> np 02:43:33 <Chris_Booth> hello all 02:43:37 <PublicServer> <Peter> hi 02:43:43 <PublicServer> <FiCE> hi 02:43:45 <PublicServer> <Peter> it's a bit late for you to be up 02:47:13 *** themroc- has joined #openttdcoop 02:50:21 <PublicServer> *** FiCE has left the game (connection lost) 02:50:22 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 02:50:28 <FiCE> hmm 02:50:29 <PublicServer> <Peter> :( 02:50:36 <FiCE> it kicked me for some reason 02:50:38 <FiCE> !password 02:50:38 <PublicServer> FiCE: fumble 02:50:39 <PublicServer> <Peter> whatever, I JUST finished the coal drop 02:50:52 <PeterT> *** FiCE has left the game (connection lost) 02:50:57 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 02:50:57 <PublicServer> *** FiCE joined the game 02:51:11 <PublicServer> <FiCE> :) 02:51:20 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 02:51:20 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 02:51:22 *** themroc-- has quit IRC 02:51:34 <PublicServer> <Peter> ok, I finished the coal drop 02:51:43 <PublicServer> <Peter> with some pretty ugly TFs 02:51:55 <PublicServer> <Peter> I'm off for tonight 02:51:58 <PublicServer> <Peter> night :) 02:51:59 <PublicServer> *** Peter has left the game (leaving) 02:51:59 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 02:52:05 <PeterT> bye 02:52:11 <FiCE> cya 02:52:11 *** PeterT has quit IRC 02:56:02 *** KenjiE20|LT has quit IRC 02:56:13 *** Kenji__ has joined #openttdcoop 02:56:13 *** Webster sets mode: +o Kenji__ 02:56:18 <Chris_Booth> and i am in 02:56:23 <Chris_Booth> !password 02:56:23 <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: geeing 02:56:36 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 02:56:36 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 02:57:04 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> hu 02:57:22 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ok we still need 2 BBHs 02:57:45 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and 2 stations 02:59:30 *** Kenji__ has quit IRC 03:01:03 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 03:03:36 <PublicServer> <FiCE> hi 03:03:38 <PublicServer> <FiCE> yep 03:03:39 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> hi FIce 03:08:07 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ok Steel mill is majorly worng 03:08:52 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> any how sorry fice as much as i wouldlike toplay i need to be up in 6 hours 03:08:57 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> so maybe tomoz 03:09:03 <PublicServer> <FiCE> np, I'm not really playing at the moment 03:09:09 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (leaving) 03:09:09 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 03:09:11 <PublicServer> <FiCE> cya 03:09:13 <Chris_Booth> nn all 03:09:16 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 03:52:26 *** themroc- has quit IRC 03:56:46 *** Fuco has quit IRC 05:03:06 *** TrainzStoffe has joined #openttdcoop 05:10:28 *** Stoffe has quit IRC 05:10:28 *** TrainzStoffe is now known as Stoffe 05:25:12 <PublicServer> *** FiCE has left the game (leaving) 05:25:22 *** FiCE has quit IRC 05:42:29 *** MattKrass has joined #openttdcoop 05:42:33 <MattKrass> hello 05:49:14 *** MattKrass has quit IRC 05:49:30 *** MattKrass has joined #openttdcoop 05:51:39 <MattKrass> so 05:51:49 <MattKrass> I used to hang around in this channel a little over a year ago 05:51:52 <MattKrass> fun stuff, but life got busy 05:51:55 <MattKrass> you know how it goes 05:52:04 <MattKrass> I'd like to get back in to the game though 06:39:12 *** DJNekkid has quit IRC 07:27:25 *** Polygon has joined #openttdcoop 07:44:30 *** Polygon has quit IRC 07:46:04 *** ^Spike^ has joined #openttdcoop 07:46:04 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ^Spike^ 07:46:33 <MattKrass> hey 07:47:29 <De_Ghosty> there is no one here 07:47:35 <De_Ghosty> the people are all illusion 07:47:44 <De_Ghosty> and it's 3 am in east coast 07:47:48 <De_Ghosty> 11 pm in west coast 07:47:53 <De_Ghosty> 9 am in europe 07:48:02 <De_Ghosty> this is the deadeset time 08:06:07 <MattKrass> yeah 08:06:12 <MattKrass> its 3:06 here 08:06:25 <MattKrass> college student with flu, my sleep cycle is shot 08:08:43 <MattKrass> I'm gonna try sleep again 08:15:28 *** mixrin has joined 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#openttdcoop - Redmine Update <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/news/16> 11:10:53 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 11:45:08 *** pugi has quit IRC 11:50:36 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 12:02:59 *** FiCE has joined #openttdcoop 12:03:04 <FiCE> !playercount 12:03:04 <PublicServer> FiCE: Number of players: 1 12:03:06 <FiCE> !password 12:03:06 <PublicServer> FiCE: bummed 12:04:11 <PublicServer> *** FiCE joined the game 12:06:48 *** pugi has quit IRC 12:07:05 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 12:11:06 *** pugi has quit IRC 12:15:30 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 12:18:33 *** Thraxian|Work has joined #openttdcoop 12:18:33 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Thraxian|Work 12:19:02 <PublicServer> *** Thraxian|Work joined the game 12:23:31 *** pugi has quit IRC 12:23:55 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 12:25:23 <Seppel> !password 12:25:23 <PublicServer> Seppel: azures 12:25:29 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 12:25:29 <PublicServer> *** Sepp joined the game 12:28:01 *** pugi has quit IRC 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15:28:52 <PublicServer> A3aan: Client 792 is FiCE, a spectator 15:28:52 <PublicServer> A3aan: Client 796 is Chris Booth, a spectator 15:29:01 <Chris_Booth> A3aan: i am arround 15:29:04 <Chris_Booth> if you want to play 15:29:17 <A3aan> ok, i'm on my way 15:29:25 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has joined company #1 15:29:57 <A3aan> !password 15:29:58 <PublicServer> A3aan: bugler 15:30:08 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 15:30:09 <PublicServer> *** A3aan joined the game 15:30:39 <PublicServer> <A3aan> hmm... lot of changes after yesterday 15:30:49 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> still not built yet 15:31:16 <PublicServer> <A3aan> pretty challenging map tho 15:32:17 <PublicServer> <A3aan> strange place for the towndrop imo 15:38:13 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> you biuilding? 15:38:18 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> do you want eny help? 15:38:55 <PublicServer> <A3aan> well, im looking around to see what i can do 15:39:28 <PublicServer> <A3aan> i'm not familiair with large stations 15:39:41 <PublicServer> <A3aan> not the way they are build here anyway 15:40:11 <PublicServer> <A3aan> and looking at the BBH02 concept 15:40:25 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> dont that is stupid concept 15:40:35 <PublicServer> <A3aan> thought so 15:42:33 *** mark has quit IRC 15:42:46 <PublicServer> <A3aan> is the sawmill location any good? 15:43:10 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> not alot of space 15:43:27 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> maybe closer to MM02 would be better 15:43:54 <PublicServer> <A3aan> what are those MM0x things anyway? temporary? 15:44:13 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ooh yes the are the money maker 15:44:16 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> (MM0x) 15:44:31 <PublicServer> <A3aan> ah ok 15:47:42 <PublicServer> <A3aan> how is the current BBH02? finish or erase and rebuild? 15:48:13 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> its up to who ever take on the challenge 15:48:58 <PublicServer> <A3aan> hmm... currently i can make a 3 way LL_RR hub 15:49:05 <PublicServer> <A3aan> never tried a 4 way tho 15:49:28 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i have built loads but i still find them hard 15:49:33 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but you get there in the end 15:50:04 <PublicServer> <A3aan> a 3way takes me more then an hour on flat land :p 15:50:34 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> BBH 01 is stumping me at the moment 15:51:18 *** mark has joined #openttdcoop 15:51:18 *** Webster sets mode: +o mark 15:51:44 <PublicServer> <A3aan> why is that center ML LLLRRR anyway 15:51:54 <PublicServer> <A3aan> makes it more complex 15:52:03 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> more traffic will cross between the 2 BBHs 15:52:57 <PublicServer> <A3aan> 4L_4R would be easier with balancing i guess 15:53:22 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no 15:53:29 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> same as 3L_R3 15:54:15 <PublicServer> <A3aan> ok, you're the pro :) 15:54:32 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i am not realy 15:55:12 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 15:55:12 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 15:55:12 <PublicServer> <A3aan> more then me anyway 15:58:20 *** MattKrass has quit IRC 15:59:05 *** Thraxian|Work has quit IRC 16:00:08 *** MattKrass has joined #openttdcoop 16:00:30 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> do you ever get the felling that what ever you build just doesnt seem to work 16:00:41 *** highpinger has joined #openttdcoop 16:00:57 <PublicServer> <A3aan> uhmm... sometimes 16:01:07 <PublicServer> <A3aan> but i never realy build huge networks 16:02:33 <Seppel> !password 16:02:34 <PublicServer> Seppel: burros 16:02:39 <PublicServer> *** Sepp joined the game 16:03:25 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ok i am nearly there with BBH 02 now 16:03:47 <PublicServer> <A3aan> 01 you mean? 16:04:18 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yes 16:06:03 <PublicServer> *** Sepp has left the game (leaving) 16:06:15 *** StarLite` has joined #openttdcoop 16:07:34 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i dread to signal BBH 01 16:08:33 <PublicServer> <A3aan> looking at BBH01 now to figure out where all the tracks go to 16:10:39 <PublicServer> <A3aan> looks like a big roundabout 16:10:46 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> kind is 16:10:53 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but without a complete loop 16:11:19 <hylje> whirlpool 16:12:17 <PublicServer> <A3aan> can i start signaling a bit at BBH01? 16:12:51 *** StarLite has quit IRC 16:22:56 <PublicServer> <A3aan> ok, i'll stop signaling for now 16:23:15 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no you can help me a signal it 16:24:40 <PublicServer> <A3aan> look at the signals east and west of our signs 16:24:47 <PublicServer> <A3aan> facing opposite directions 16:24:57 *** highpinger has quit IRC 16:25:29 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> that was my mistake 16:26:37 <PublicServer> <A3aan> i'll be afk for a few minutes, brb 16:30:18 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> stupid forrest in my BBH 16:30:34 <PublicServer> <A3aan> lol 2 of them 16:40:17 *** highpinger has joined #openttdcoop 16:41:10 *** MattKrass has quit IRC 16:41:13 <PublicServer> <A3aan> having diner now, but will stay ingame 16:41:26 *** MattKrass has joined #openttdcoop 16:46:10 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (connection lost) 16:46:10 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 16:46:41 <Chris_Booth> !password 16:46:41 <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: choosy 16:46:57 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 16:46:58 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 16:58:16 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has joined spectators 16:58:16 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 17:00:43 *** Cif has quit IRC 17:02:47 *** Cif has joined #openttdcoop 17:09:47 *** highpinger has quit IRC 17:11:38 <PublicServer> *** A3aan has joined spectators 17:18:19 *** highpinger has joined #openttdcoop 17:22:51 <PublicServer> *** A3aan has joined company #1 17:23:19 <PublicServer> *** A3aan has joined spectators 17:23:40 *** Fuco has joined #openttdcoop 17:25:40 *** MattKrass has quit IRC 17:26:22 *** MattKrass has joined #openttdcoop 17:38:16 <PublicServer> *** A3aan has left the game (leaving) 17:38:43 <PublicServer> *** Spike joined the game 17:39:37 <PublicServer> *** Spike has joined company #1 17:44:06 <A3aan> ^Spike^: i'm willing to join if you wanna play 17:44:10 <PublicServer> <Spike> nah.. 17:44:13 <PublicServer> <Spike> just leaving some signs 17:44:18 <A3aan> ok 17:44:31 <PublicServer> <Spike> and being amazed about some things.. 17:44:39 <A3aan> like what? 17:45:40 <PublicServer> <Spike> hard to give it words... 17:45:49 <A3aan> !password 17:45:49 <PublicServer> A3aan: ginger 17:45:57 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 17:45:59 <PublicServer> *** A3aan joined the game 17:46:15 <PublicServer> *** Spike has joined spectators 17:46:16 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 17:48:36 <jondisti> !password 17:48:37 <PublicServer> jondisti: ginger 17:48:52 <PublicServer> *** A3aan has joined spectators 17:48:54 <PublicServer> *** jondisti joined the game 17:49:00 <PublicServer> *** A3aan has joined company #1 17:49:31 <PublicServer> *** A3aan has joined spectators 17:59:10 *** Polygon has joined #openttdcoop 18:11:06 <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (leaving) 18:21:09 *** Chillosophy has joined #openttdcoop 18:28:23 <PublicServer> *** Blue has left the game (connection lost) 18:28:57 <PublicServer> *** Mark joined the game 18:28:58 <PublicServer> <Mark> 'lo 18:29:19 <^Spike^> lo 18:29:20 *** [2]Blue has joined #openttdcoop 18:29:45 <A3aan> hi 18:29:51 <PublicServer> <Mark> seems no one feels like building a 4-way 18:30:25 <PublicServer> <A3aan> never did one before 18:31:05 <PublicServer> <A3aan> i'm allready proud i can make a decent 3 way :-) 18:31:42 <PublicServer> *** A3aan has joined company #1 18:31:43 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 18:32:26 <^Spike^> mark what's your comment on the refinery? 18:33:03 <PublicServer> <Mark> zomg 18:33:06 <PublicServer> <Mark> where to start? 18:33:19 <^Spike^> my sign @ the top sums it up? 18:33:21 <PublicServer> <Mark> nuke it says i 18:33:22 <^Spike^> 3 letters? 18:33:26 <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah it does 18:33:34 <^Spike^> you also see who created it i hope 18:33:44 <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah.. 18:34:00 <PublicServer> <Mark> "is this feasable? - sure, why not?" 18:34:04 <PublicServer> <Mark> NO IT IS NOT 18:34:07 <^Spike^> :) 18:34:11 <^Spike^> exactly my thought 18:34:12 <PublicServer> <A3aan> lol 18:34:48 <PublicServer> *** Spike joined the game 18:35:04 <PublicServer> <A3aan> total rebuild? intersting :-) 18:35:09 <PublicServer> <A3aan> maybe i learn something 18:35:12 <PublicServer> <Mark> no, just killed that random station 18:35:16 <PublicServer> <Spike> and i guess the first part should also be.. well rebuild 18:35:21 <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah 18:35:22 <PublicServer> <Mark> it should 18:35:23 <PublicServer> <Spike> cause the presigs is gonna cause trouble 18:35:27 <PublicServer> <Spike> can count on that 18:35:34 <PublicServer> <Mark> and the stations should be seperate 18:35:46 <PublicServer> <Spike> the entrances/exits atleast 18:35:53 <PublicServer> <Mark> indeed 18:35:59 <PublicServer> <Spike> not all behind 1 presig block 18:36:25 <PublicServer> <Spike> cause this is just asking for jams 18:36:28 *** [1]Blue has quit IRC 18:38:22 <mark> i wrote a bit an main stations btw 18:38:26 <mark> it's a WIP though 18:38:28 <mark> http://openttdcoop.org/wiki/Main_station 18:39:35 <A3aan> i read that, nice article :) 18:40:13 <mark> thank you :) 18:40:22 <mark> still plenty to be added though, especially about termini 18:40:44 <mark> and i might add some more downsides for the dedicated thingy or Ammler will kill me 18:41:52 <Ammler> :-P 18:42:08 <A3aan> lol 18:42:20 <^Spike^> dedicated thingy? 18:42:39 <A3aan> PBS? 18:42:50 <Razaekel> !password 18:42:51 <PublicServer> Razaekel: hectic 18:43:00 <PublicServer> *** Razaekel joined the game 18:44:04 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> holy crap, what the heck is BBH 01 18:44:13 <PublicServer> <Spike> it's always nice that ppl canr ead your mind about stuff... ;) 18:44:18 <PublicServer> <A3aan> some kind of roundabout 18:44:21 <PublicServer> <Mark> it's a monster 18:44:25 <PublicServer> <Mark> Spike: ? 18:44:35 <PublicServer> <Spike> the refinery :) 18:44:42 <PublicServer> <Mark> heh 18:44:47 <PublicServer> <Spike> raz just placed some signs as well it seems :) 18:44:58 <PublicServer> <Mark> lol 18:45:09 <PublicServer> <Spike> and next to that.. i would add some more platform for each but well that's just my thought 18:45:24 <PublicServer> <Spike> 6 platforms for 2 lines.. that is 3 platforms per line 18:45:35 <PublicServer> <Mark> this should de probably 18:45:37 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> oil drop is a peice of crap 18:45:40 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> >.< 18:45:57 <PublicServer> <Spike> i just get a feeling to get out the dyno and kill it... :) 18:46:07 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> yay, fireworks 18:46:10 <PublicServer> <Spike> and i guess no-one but one person would blame me :D 18:46:29 <PublicServer> <A3aan> nuke it :-) 18:46:31 <PublicServer> <Mark> who made the original? 18:46:48 <PublicServer> <Spike> i don't know.. 18:46:52 <PublicServer> <Spike> was there an original? 18:47:04 <PublicServer> <Spike> i thought it always was mr PeterT project the whole time 18:47:05 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> never saw it 18:47:07 <PublicServer> <A3aan> this method is kinda original 18:47:12 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> KIIIIIIL! 18:47:17 <PublicServer> <Spike> he created it more NE before 18:48:05 <PublicServer> <Mark> lol 18:48:12 <PublicServer> <Mark> i bet that felt good 18:48:22 <PublicServer> <Mark> now you're forced to create something proper though 18:48:28 <PublicServer> <Spike> not as good as that comment i had towards the person a few PSGs back 18:48:41 <PublicServer> <Mark> heh 18:48:44 <PublicServer> <Spike> mark check the WTF!?!?!?! close by 18:48:53 <PublicServer> <Mark> nice 18:49:08 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> failstation 18:49:12 <PublicServer> <Spike> and fail exit 18:49:17 <PublicServer> <Mark> failgame tbh 18:49:33 <PublicServer> <Spike> i get a feeling it is a massive TFed station aswell.. 18:49:34 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> steel mill makes me wtf 18:49:44 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> where's the pickup? 18:49:45 *** MattKrass has quit IRC 18:49:45 <PublicServer> <Spike> not gonna tell me that this platform was so perfect 18:49:46 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> or drop 18:49:49 <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah doesn't make a lot of sense to me either 18:49:58 <PublicServer> <Spike> new guy.. 18:49:59 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> what happened to all the elite players? 18:50:02 <PublicServer> <Spike> give him a chance.. :) 18:50:07 <PublicServer> <Spike> the refinery not a new guy.. 18:50:33 <PublicServer> <Mark> Razaekel: my guess they can't be bothered if everything else is so low standard :P 18:50:39 <KenjiE20> playing OTTD comes and goes in phases 18:50:46 <PublicServer> <Spike> Mark: get a good pz game going :) 18:50:52 <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah i should 18:50:53 *** MattKrass has joined #openttdcoop 18:51:15 <PublicServer> <A3aan> are we going to nuke the STEEL as well? 18:51:31 <PublicServer> <Spike> hmmm.. i think it's saveable 18:51:31 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> we will have to 18:51:34 <PublicServer> <Spike> but that's just my vision :) 18:51:36 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> or modify it 18:51:54 <PublicServer> <Mark> i think i'll do the sawmill 18:52:09 <PublicServer> <A3aan> are current platforms in a good location? 18:52:15 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> oh jeez 18:52:22 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> peter, peter, peter 18:52:23 <PublicServer> <Spike> i like mr consistenct @ coal drop... 18:52:29 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> you need some reeducation 18:52:38 <PublicServer> <Spike> raz... i prefer to call him mr consistency 18:52:42 <PublicServer> <Spike> consistent in building bad stuff 18:52:43 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> no braking space, at all 18:52:50 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> heh 18:53:01 <PublicServer> <Spike> no need to call names then anymore :) 18:53:01 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> the general idea is good 18:53:07 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> the execution is horrible 18:53:20 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> and too many plats anyway 18:53:35 <PublicServer> <Spike> a drop can have less platforms then the pickup atleast @ my side 18:53:44 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> always true 18:53:52 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> drop needs only like 6 or 7 plats per line 18:53:59 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> pickup needs more, since trains spend longer here 18:54:01 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> there* 18:54:07 <PublicServer> <Mark> 6 is for maglev :P 18:54:10 <PublicServer> <Spike> or more waiting space.. or buffer waiting space :) 18:54:14 <PublicServer> <Mark> 4 for erail drop is fine 18:54:15 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> 6 is for anything 18:54:20 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> :-/ 18:54:20 <PublicServer> <Mark> of course not 18:54:22 <PublicServer> <Spike> i take the avg of you 2 :D 18:54:23 <PublicServer> <Spike> 5 :D 18:54:25 <PublicServer> <Mark> maglev has higher density 18:54:34 <PublicServer> <Mark> because of the higher speed 18:54:41 <Seppel> !password 18:54:41 <PublicServer> Seppel: wetter 18:54:42 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> cant argue with that 18:54:46 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> but i prefer 6 anyway 18:54:54 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> and i tend to 8 for maglev 18:54:55 <PublicServer> <Mark> you also have to look at whether the incoming tracks are dedicated to those platforms 18:55:03 <PublicServer> *** Sepp joined the game 18:55:07 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> just cause im all about efficiency and cramming in the trains 18:55:09 <PublicServer> <Mark> so a coal drop will require more plats than a factory drop 18:55:27 <PublicServer> *** Kenji joined the game 18:55:49 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> hmm 18:55:54 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> how much braking space for TL5 erail? 18:56:05 <PublicServer> <Mark> 3 or 4 i'd say 18:56:12 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> i noticed a TL50 maglev needs about 32 tiles of braking space 18:57:49 <PublicServer> *** Mark has joined spectators 18:58:38 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(gonna ask that every 5 mins... ;)) 19:00:30 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> coal is redone 19:00:44 <mark> ^Spike^: tomorrow maybe :P 19:00:48 <PublicServer> <Spike> .... 19:00:49 <PublicServer> <A3aan> thats quick 19:00:51 <PublicServer> <Spike> first you said monday.. ;) 19:00:57 <mark> maybe :P 19:01:40 <PublicServer> *** Sepp has left the game (leaving) 19:02:30 <PublicServer> <Spike> now for the pickup station... 19:03:31 <PublicServer> <A3aan> should STEEL become similair to that? 19:03:35 <PublicServer> <Spike> nah.. 19:03:41 <PublicServer> <Spike> this is just one of the ways 19:04:03 <PublicServer> <A3aan> looks pretty cool and efficient tho 19:04:09 <PublicServer> <A3aan> but you need some room 19:04:24 <PublicServer> <Spike> cause of TL 19:04:56 *** Legacy has joined #openttdcoop 19:04:59 <Legacy> !password 19:05:00 <PublicServer> Legacy: wetter 19:05:11 <PublicServer> *** Legacy.nl joined the game 19:05:13 <PublicServer> *** Razaekel has left the game (leaving) 19:05:43 *** Legacy has quit IRC 19:07:09 <PublicServer> *** Legacy.nl has left the game (leaving) 19:07:27 *** DJNekkid has joined #openttdcoop 19:07:29 <DJNekkid> !password 19:07:29 <PublicServer> DJNekkid: purred 19:07:35 <PublicServer> *** DJ Nekkid joined the game 19:07:49 <PublicServer> <A3aan> drop & pick should be different stations? 19:07:55 <PublicServer> <Spike> nah.. 19:08:00 <PublicServer> <Spike> i just pick to do so.. 19:08:05 <PublicServer> <Spike> just to show possibilities :) 19:08:41 <PublicServer> <DJ Nekkid> how is stuff going today? 19:08:46 <PublicServer> <A3aan> seperate stations would be easier with orders, or am i wrong 19:09:10 <PublicServer> <Spike> doesn't matter.. more has to do with flow and jams 19:09:15 <PublicServer> <Spike> it prevents jams 19:09:34 <PublicServer> <A3aan> and we dont want jams 19:09:49 <PublicServer> <Spike> idd 19:11:40 <PublicServer> <DJ Nekkid> is BBH2 don 19:11:42 <PublicServer> <DJ Nekkid> ? 19:11:47 <PublicServer> <A3aan> nope 19:11:55 <PublicServer> <A3aan> not even close 19:12:03 <PublicServer> <DJ Nekkid> just 'doze it? 19:12:31 <PublicServer> <A3aan> if you want to :) 19:12:38 <PublicServer> <A3aan> 4-ways arent my thing 19:13:24 <PublicServer> <A3aan> i'm willing to try STEELMILL, but want to start from scratch 19:13:50 *** Zulan has joined #openttdcoop 19:14:56 <PublicServer> *** jondisti has joined company #1 19:17:18 <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (leaving) 19:23:57 <PublicServer> *** tneo joined the game 19:24:38 <PublicServer> *** tneo has left the game (leaving) 19:29:43 *** damalix has joined #openttdcoop 19:29:51 <damalix> !password 19:29:51 <PublicServer> damalix: droves 19:30:03 <PublicServer> *** Damalix joined the game 19:30:12 *** TrainzStoffe has joined #openttdcoop 19:32:02 <PublicServer> <Damalix> hi there 19:32:07 <PublicServer> <A3aan> hi 19:32:23 <PublicServer> <Damalix> what's happened, some places have been unbuilt O__o 19:32:40 <PublicServer> <A3aan> those places where never build 19:32:48 <PublicServer> <A3aan> still needs to be build 19:32:58 <PublicServer> <Damalix> wasn't the steel mill station completed ? 19:33:15 <PublicServer> <A3aan> true, but there was missing a lot 19:33:49 <PublicServer> <Damalix> oh, ok 19:34:05 <PublicServer> <Damalix> Oh.. No more keep alive :p 19:34:14 <PublicServer> <DJ Nekkid> crap, i suck! 19:36:01 <PublicServer> <Damalix> wow at bbh1 19:36:18 *** Stoffe has quit IRC 19:36:18 *** TrainzStoffe is now known as Stoffe 19:36:24 <PublicServer> <A3aan> yeah lol 19:37:20 <PublicServer> <A3aan> what happenend to temp steel?? 19:37:28 <PublicServer> <jondisti> it's not needed 19:37:47 <PublicServer> <A3aan> ok 19:40:17 *** LordAzamath has joined #openttdcoop 19:41:21 *** mark has quit IRC 19:41:43 <PublicServer> *** Mark has left the game (connection lost) 19:47:59 <PublicServer> <A3aan> i need magix dozer for a transmitter :-/ 19:48:22 *** highpinger has quit IRC 19:52:58 <PublicServer> <jondisti> steel drop should maybe be bigger 19:53:19 <PublicServer> <A3aan> ok, can be done 19:53:26 <^Spike^> A3aan can't work around it? 19:53:48 <PublicServer> <A3aan> yeah, maybe i can rebuild some stuff here 19:54:05 *** FrancoBegbie has joined #openttdcoop 19:56:44 <PublicServer> <DJ Nekkid> now you experts... how bad is BBH2 ? 19:58:03 <^Spike^> my mental powers tell me..... 19:58:07 <^Spike^> i can't see it out of game 19:58:12 <PublicServer> <jondisti> i'm no expert but i signed couple of things i think is bad :P 20:03:16 <PublicServer> <DJ Nekkid> there we go 20:03:47 <^Spike^> with? 20:03:57 <PublicServer> <DJ Nekkid> i think BBH2 might be done 20:04:21 <^Spike^> aha 20:04:30 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> shall i finish BBH 1 20:04:46 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has joined company #1 20:07:32 <PublicServer> <DJ Nekkid> ttyl 20:07:33 <PublicServer> *** DJ Nekkid has left the game (leaving) 20:07:36 *** DJNekkid has quit IRC 20:09:24 *** Phoenix_the_II has joined #openttdcoop 20:13:31 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ok i think BBH 01 is finaly finished 20:13:40 *** MattKrass has quit IRC 20:13:54 <PublicServer> <A3aan> can you find your way around it :p 20:14:11 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> just about 20:14:40 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and BBH is realy wrong 20:14:47 <PublicServer> <Damalix> Back 20:14:56 <PublicServer> *** Damalix has joined company #1 20:15:00 *** MattKrass has joined #openttdcoop 20:16:14 <PublicServer> <A3aan> hmmm... would STEEL DROP be big enough?? 20:16:28 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> probably needs to be twice the size 20:16:42 <PublicServer> <A3aan> holy ... 20:17:58 <PublicServer> <A3aan> and PICKUP must be bigger too then? 20:18:07 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no pickup is fine 20:18:32 <PublicServer> <A3aan> ok, gonna rearange drop then 20:18:41 <PublicServer> <Damalix> usually, size of pickup ~ size of drop, no ? 20:19:12 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 20:19:59 <PublicServer> <Damalix> TL 5 means CL 5 as well, am I right ? 20:20:08 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yes 20:20:26 <PublicServer> *** Spike joined the game 20:20:47 <pugi> hi :) 20:24:06 <PublicServer> *** Spike has joined company #1 20:24:15 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> hi spike 20:24:17 <PublicServer> <Spike> just a tip :) 20:24:21 <PublicServer> <Damalix> Hi spike 20:24:23 <PublicServer> <Spike> hi 20:24:36 <PublicServer> <Spike> even better.. :) 20:24:45 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> a tip with what? 20:24:45 <PublicServer> <Spike> don't know who is doing steel drop.. 20:24:54 <PublicServer> <A3aan> me :) 20:25:09 <PublicServer> <A3aan> i want to mirror pick 20:25:11 <PublicServer> <Damalix> I was trying to have a look at oil 20:25:33 <PublicServer> <Spike> you may.. 20:25:53 <PublicServer> <Spike> was a bit pissed off sooner didn't want to connect after the rebuild and the signs i saw.. 20:26:00 <PublicServer> <Spike> they made me go *sigh* big time 20:26:32 <PublicServer> <Spike> i just realized i should've turned the entrance around :) 20:26:55 <PublicServer> <Spike> as in on the other side 20:30:28 *** Phoenix_the_II has quit IRC 20:34:03 <PublicServer> <A3aan> huh? 20:34:10 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> try to move the sign 20:34:24 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> sorry 20:34:30 <PublicServer> <A3aan> lol ok 20:35:30 <PublicServer> <A3aan> can i put the stations back? 20:35:33 *** Phoenix_the_II has joined #openttdcoop 20:35:34 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yeah 20:35:45 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> sorry again 20:35:52 <PublicServer> <A3aan> np 20:39:49 <PublicServer> <A3aan> done :) 20:40:38 <PublicServer> <Spike> that's me.. :) 20:40:41 <PublicServer> <Spike> want to fix something :) 20:40:55 <PublicServer> <Damalix> the "desync" ? 20:40:59 <PublicServer> <Spike> yep 20:43:09 <PublicServer> <A3aan> how does steel look now? 20:43:15 <PublicServer> <Damalix> Can I make the acceleration smaller at oil pickup ? 20:43:31 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> steel looks great 20:43:34 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> :) 20:43:41 <PublicServer> <A3aan> thnx 20:44:00 <PublicServer> <A3aan> need to go for a while, will be back later 20:44:07 <PublicServer> *** A3aan has joined spectators 20:46:14 *** [2]Blue has quit IRC 20:46:51 <PublicServer> <Spike> you do make the mixing idea a bit.. not needed :) 20:46:56 <PublicServer> <Spike> oh well 20:47:04 <PublicServer> <Spike> can always be fixed if it is a problem 20:49:13 *** pugi has quit IRC 20:50:34 <XeryusTC> !password 20:50:35 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: lither 20:50:42 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game 20:50:50 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> *tips his hat* 20:51:07 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> hi XTC 20:52:15 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 20:53:40 *** LordAzamath has quit IRC 20:54:50 <pugi> !password 20:54:50 <PublicServer> pugi: manors 20:55:13 <PublicServer> <Damalix> arf :/ yep 20:55:18 <PublicServer> *** pugi joined the game 20:55:24 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm, sign list is clutered :S 20:55:39 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> realy? 20:55:55 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop 20:56:08 *** PeterT has quit IRC 20:58:06 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm 20:58:09 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> how annoying 20:58:14 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> there are signs for MSHs 20:58:19 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but no spaces in front of the station names 20:58:39 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i meant MSS there :P 20:58:40 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> what MHSs? 20:58:46 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> there are no MHS 20:59:01 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> people should put a space before MSS names instead of putting signs there 21:00:14 <PublicServer> *** pugi has left the game (leaving) 21:06:01 <PublicServer> <jondisti> heh 21:06:32 <PublicServer> <jondisti> bbh 02 missing N -> E connection 21:06:47 <PublicServer> <jondisti> and E -> S or W 21:08:05 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has left the game (connection lost) 21:08:50 *** valhallasw has joined #openttdcoop 21:10:15 *** cifvts_ has joined #openttdcoop 21:11:08 *** Cif has quit IRC 21:11:15 <PublicServer> <Spike> don't forget to prio pickup over drop? :) 21:11:31 <PublicServer> <Damalix> ahahah 21:11:33 <PublicServer> <Damalix> :) 21:14:13 <PublicServer> *** jondisti has left the game (leaving) 21:15:43 <PublicServer> <Spike> there restoring some water :) 21:15:50 <PublicServer> <Damalix> ^^ 21:26:36 <PublicServer> <Spike> solves signal gap ;) 21:26:42 <PublicServer> <Damalix> :) 21:27:09 <PublicServer> *** A3aan has joined company #1 21:27:14 <PublicServer> <A3aan> back 21:28:02 <PublicServer> <Spike> think you can signal the rest yourself.. 21:28:15 <PublicServer> <Spike> and i know who is well.. not kiss you.. but be happy with you.. :) 21:28:30 <^Spike^> if he isn't asleep yet that is 21:28:32 <^Spike^> seems he is.. 21:29:00 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> who is asleep? 21:29:04 <PublicServer> <Spike> mark 21:29:06 <PublicServer> <Spike> who else 21:29:19 <PublicServer> <Spike> Damalix created a balanced exit.. 21:29:30 <PublicServer> <Spike> true on the mega slow 21:29:31 <PublicServer> <Spike> my fault :) 21:29:35 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i blanced the entire BBH 01 21:31:24 <PublicServer> <Damalix> I'm not sure it'll work well, but we'll see that later on :p 21:31:29 <PublicServer> <Spike> true.. 21:31:35 <PublicServer> <Spike> atleast you gave it a try :) 21:31:39 <PublicServer> <Spike> but i think it will work 21:31:45 <PublicServer> <Spike> maybe some penalties.. but we'll see later on 21:32:03 <PublicServer> <Spike> A3aan: you're stations will not work with signals like that 21:32:13 <PublicServer> <Spike> atleast the first set 21:32:18 <PublicServer> <Spike> the 2nd set is ok 21:32:23 <PublicServer> <A3aan> i copied them from oil 21:32:29 <PublicServer> <Spike> you copied them wrong :) 21:32:36 <PublicServer> <Spike> look good :) 21:32:54 <PublicServer> <Spike> with V you can get another viewport 21:33:01 <PublicServer> <Spike> use it and look at oil with it 21:33:06 <PublicServer> <Spike> and compare to yours 21:33:34 <PublicServer> <A3aan> i think i see 21:33:45 <PublicServer> <Spike> i can say it.. but it's better to find out yourself :) 21:34:01 <PublicServer> <Spike> fix it on one and i'll say it ir's ok :) 21:34:06 <PublicServer> <A3aan> i think i see 21:34:27 <PublicServer> <Spike> almost.. 21:34:34 <PublicServer> <Spike> the presigs from the side are a screw up :) 21:34:37 <PublicServer> <Spike> that idd :) 21:34:54 <PublicServer> <Spike> signal gap is optional.. but well :) that's your call :) 21:35:10 <PublicServer> <A3aan> which gap? 21:35:26 <PublicServer> <A3aan> and indeed: side view is bad for signals :p 21:35:27 <PublicServer> <Spike> look under my sign @ station 21:35:47 <PublicServer> <Spike> that is optional... 21:36:33 <PublicServer> <A3aan> and why is that gap there?? 21:36:58 <PublicServer> <Spike> for my feeling it's to balance the trains a bit between the stations.. but never really watched if it worked like i think it should :) 21:37:09 <PublicServer> <Spike> i know it doesn't create a problem :) 21:37:13 <PublicServer> <Spike> you don't have to do it 21:37:27 <PublicServer> <A3aan> we can allways erase them later 21:38:00 <PublicServer> <Spike> which gap Damalix? 21:38:33 *** valhallasw has quit IRC 21:39:28 <PublicServer> <Spike> i added 1 signal btw Damalix it would've blocked if it switched 21:39:51 *** jondisti has quit IRC 21:40:05 <MattKrass> hey all 21:40:06 <PublicServer> <Damalix> which one ? 21:40:11 *** valhallasw has joined #openttdcoop 21:40:15 <PublicServer> <Spike> under the bridge 21:40:15 <MattKrass> I'm sort of new here :) 21:40:17 <PublicServer> <Damalix> oh yep 21:40:20 <PublicServer> <Spike> you forgot that one :) 21:40:22 <PublicServer> <Damalix> forgot this one then 21:41:15 <PublicServer> <Spike> just wanted to check speed for a moment :) 21:42:01 <MattKrass> I used to pop in here over the last summer, (not the one just passed, the one before, 2008) and it seemed like a really nice crowd, I enjoyed playing OTTD (still do) but you were in the midst of a game and I didn't get to play cause I was afraid of screwing it all up ;) 21:42:20 <PublicServer> <Damalix> about the slope ? 21:42:33 <PublicServer> <Spike> no.. more about the S curves.. 21:42:36 <Chris_Booth> MattKrass: us lot a nice crowd 21:42:38 <PublicServer> <Spike> since you really get it on the edge :) 21:42:43 <PublicServer> <Spike> but it works.. :) 21:42:47 <PublicServer> <Damalix> I tried to check the CLs while building 21:42:53 <MattKrass> you seem pretty cool 21:43:16 <MattKrass> the music from this game is still some of the best ever game music 21:43:17 <PublicServer> <Spike> some parts have TL4 but are s-curves following up on each other 21:43:25 <KenjiE20> booth; we are? 21:43:27 <KenjiE20> :P 21:44:12 <^Spike^> KenjiE20, fresh food... so yes we are.. 21:44:15 <^Spike^> later we're not.. :) 21:44:22 <KenjiE20> hehe 21:44:23 <MattKrass> haha 21:44:34 <^Spike^> never scare food away KenjiE20 :) 21:44:51 <KenjiE20> om nom nom 21:45:23 <hylje> MattKrass: the game as it is is full of people screwing it up, you'll fit right in ;-) 21:45:31 <MattKrass> hehe 21:45:43 <MattKrass> well I'm going through your excellent wiki and relearning all the stuff so I'll have some clue of whats going on 21:45:46 * Chris_Booth passes KenjiE20 some more cookies 21:45:51 <^Spike^> and that's where we come up.. i guess members can also call themselves the clean up crew.. :) 21:46:03 <^Spike^> up=in 21:46:15 <hylje> janitors 21:46:17 <KenjiE20> it'll be even more excellent once the clean up is finished on the wiki 21:46:21 <Chris_Booth> ^Spike^: you are the clear up crew 21:46:27 <Chris_Booth> no wonder the map is broken 21:46:29 <Chris_Booth> lol 21:46:40 <^Spike^> yes i'm the clear up crew.. i just get the dyno out.. ;) 21:46:57 <Chris_Booth> lol 21:47:24 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i am the clear up crew when mark isnt here 21:47:25 <MattKrass> stupid question 21:47:29 <MattKrass> I have my moneymaker set up 21:47:29 *** Kolo has joined #openttdcoop 21:47:39 <MattKrass> but I can't find a clear run to try and build my first sideline 21:47:46 <MattKrass> is it acceptable to just nuke things til its level? 21:47:50 <PublicServer> <Spike> hmmm.. 21:48:00 <Zarenor> In a personal game? 21:48:03 <MattKrass> yes 21:48:06 <PublicServer> <Spike> A3aan: don't dare to connect it :) 21:48:09 <Zarenor> Hey guys 21:48:10 *** FrancoBegbie has quit IRC 21:48:11 <PublicServer> <Spike> you'll get slapped.. :0 21:48:14 <KenjiE20> in SP, do what you like :) 21:48:16 <PublicServer> <Spike> i can tell you that already :) 21:48:24 <PublicServer> <Spike> evil x :) 21:48:25 <MattKrass> just wondering how you guys would handle it 21:48:28 <Zarenor> Matt:personal games are explerimentation, go with what you're comfortable with 21:48:31 <PublicServer> <A3aan> hey, i'm just trying :) 21:48:37 <PublicServer> *** Kolo joined the game 21:48:43 <KenjiE20> we plan pretty much everything out 21:48:56 <PublicServer> <A3aan> i need to learn 21:49:05 <Zarenor> on Publick Server, a level of terraform is set either when the map is made or in the plan 21:49:09 <Zarenor> *Public 21:49:10 <KenjiE20> so, sidelines get dropped where there's space available on a ML 21:49:24 *** csuke has joined #openttdcoop 21:49:28 <csuke> hellooo! 21:49:33 <csuke> !password 21:49:33 <PublicServer> csuke: gaming 21:49:34 <PublicServer> <Spike> this is over extended.. 21:49:36 <PublicServer> <Spike> hmmm 21:49:42 <Zarenor> Hey Csuke 21:50:01 *** AlexVP has joined #openttdcoop 21:50:04 <PublicServer> <Damalix> hellow 21:50:15 <PublicServer> *** csuke joined the game 21:50:26 <AlexVP> hello anyone alive here? 21:50:59 <PublicServer> <Spike> there... 21:51:05 *** MattKrass has quit IRC 21:51:09 *** MattKrass has joined #openttdcoop 21:51:20 <MattKrass> argh 21:51:25 <PublicServer> <Spike> A3aan: you can wreck it if you hate it.. :) 21:51:26 <MattKrass> my internet is fairly unstable here 21:51:51 <AlexVP> where do i download build that's ok to join public server? 21:52:15 <^Spike^> !dl 21:52:16 <PublicServer> ^Spike^: !dl autostart|autottd|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x 21:52:26 <KenjiE20> @quickstart 21:52:29 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Quickstart 21:52:43 <PublicServer> <Spike> A3aan: sometimes it's better to work from the farthest track to the part you need to connect.. 21:52:44 <KenjiE20> the topic helps :) 21:53:02 <Zarenor> Whichever of those builds works for your system 21:53:20 <PublicServer> <A3aan> thnx Spike 21:53:30 <PublicServer> <Spike> and now the challenge: A balanced exit.. :) 21:53:36 <PublicServer> <A3aan> can i work out the exit balancer?? 21:53:40 <PublicServer> <Spike> oh well challenge.. 4 tracks should be doable :) 21:53:51 <AlexVP> thanks folks 21:53:56 <PublicServer> <A3aan> 4->2 i've a few times recently 21:54:07 <PublicServer> <Spike> you can do so... 21:54:38 <PublicServer> <A3aan> ty :) 21:54:52 <PublicServer> <Damalix> and there is a 4->2 balancer example on the blog 21:55:09 <PublicServer> <Spike> try to give the steel pickup prio over the empty trains :) 21:55:32 <PublicServer> <A3aan> ok, i will 21:55:42 <PublicServer> <Spike> Damalix: you're making me almost do a small wtf moment :) 21:55:53 <PublicServer> * Spike sees unconnected track :) 21:56:17 <PublicServer> <Spike> or is that a future plan.. :) 21:56:18 <PublicServer> <Damalix> yes, I'm working a bit more 21:57:07 <PublicServer> <Damalix> I was thinking that the drop exit cannot chose between the two exit lanes 21:57:32 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> does it need to? 21:57:47 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> mix the entrance instead 21:57:56 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> more room 21:58:02 <PublicServer> <Spike> true... 21:58:49 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> BBH 01 should have been 2 BBHs IMO 21:58:57 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> as the 2 MLS are the far away 22:00:09 <PublicServer> <Damalix> I'll try to mix it 22:00:29 <PublicServer> <Spike> i wouldn't mess with the exit as it is now.. 22:00:31 <PublicServer> <Spike> it's ok... 22:00:38 <PublicServer> <Spike> entrance is like chris said more space 22:00:44 <PublicServer> <Damalix> I'll try to mix the entrance 22:01:41 *** Polygon has quit IRC 22:04:25 <PublicServer> <Damalix> oh yes, only 4 tiles :p 22:04:34 <PublicServer> <Spike> use your tool 22:04:36 <PublicServer> <Spike> it's 3 :) 22:04:40 <MattKrass> well built my first sideline 22:04:46 <MattKrass> its hilly, and a little messy, but I think it will work 22:06:25 <PublicServer> <Spike> you don't need that one.. 22:06:33 <PublicServer> <Spike> all in one signal block 22:06:36 <PublicServer> <Spike> if i'm right 22:06:39 <PublicServer> <Damalix> ok 22:07:22 *** Zuu has joined #openttdcoop 22:07:31 <PublicServer> <Spike> see 22:07:34 <PublicServer> <Spike> not a problem :) 22:07:58 <MattKrass> once I confirm this train loads and behaves as I wanted, could I get someone here to look at screenshots or a game save? 22:08:05 <MattKrass> just like your opinions on the first step 22:08:37 <^Spike^> upload somehwere... and we can have a look at it 22:08:47 <MattKrass> excellent, whats preferred? gamesave? 22:08:54 <^Spike^> savegame is easier idd 22:08:59 <MattKrass> alrighty 22:09:02 <PublicServer> <Damalix> that was for signal gap, but I didn't know if it is needed 22:09:54 <PublicServer> * Spike feels his watch some sports evening.. isn't gonna be much of watch.. :) 22:15:29 <MattKrass> http://www.themattcave.org/ottd/first_sideline.sav 22:15:42 <MattKrass> Budinghattan Woods 22:15:50 <MattKrass> if someone could look and critique please 22:18:09 <PublicServer> <Spike> doing that with a reason A3aan cause if a train backs up (not expecting it but IF) it will get stuck in the prio :) 22:18:16 <PublicServer> <Spike> this way it doesn't :) 22:18:28 <PublicServer> <A3aan> ok, i understand :) 22:18:44 <PublicServer> <A3aan> hope the prio is long enough tho 22:18:46 <PublicServer> <Spike> and yes i am aware it still possible.. but not into the extent of it being a problem of getting out :) 22:19:06 <PublicServer> <Spike> just to be sure :) 22:19:14 <PublicServer> <A3aan> true :) 22:19:41 <PublicServer> <Spike> btw you're in danger of well.. getting signs between now and eh.. 5 mins :) 22:19:48 <PublicServer> <Spike> actually 1 sign... 22:20:23 <PublicServer> <A3aan> what do you mean? 22:20:24 <PublicServer> <Damalix> I see the sign :p 22:20:30 <PublicServer> <Spike> Damalix sees what i mean :) 22:20:42 <PublicServer> <Spike> we usually sign it with !cl 22:21:11 <PublicServer> <A3aan> i dont get it 22:21:18 <PublicServer> <Spike> curve length.. 22:21:22 <PublicServer> <Spike> trains slow down 22:21:41 <PublicServer> <Spike> if they mix to the S line 22:21:42 <PublicServer> <Damalix> Have a look at the other !cl sign I've just placed 22:21:43 <PublicServer> <A3aan> yeah ok, that CL is a lil to small indeed 22:21:56 <MattKrass> anyone able to look? 22:22:03 <MattKrass> sorry, I'm anxious :) 22:22:14 <PublicServer> <Spike> wtf why pbs there.. 22:22:49 <PublicServer> <Spike> not that i caused it.. but fixed it :) 22:23:04 <PublicServer> <A3aan> so, do i need to remove a sign there? 22:23:11 <PublicServer> <Spike> if you fixed it :) 22:24:12 <PublicServer> <A3aan> cl there is only 3, so i need to rebuild some stuff i guess 22:24:22 <PublicServer> <Spike> more move the bridges.. 22:24:35 <PublicServer> <A3aan> ok 22:26:11 <PublicServer> <Spike> the CL2 doesn't matter there cause of the s-cure.. i hope.. :) 22:26:27 <PublicServer> <Spike> just to be sure :) 22:26:44 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yes s curve is fine 22:26:56 <PublicServer> <A3aan> ok thnx for the help 22:26:57 <PublicServer> <Damalix> CL = 5 means the train mustn't turn twice the same side in 5 tiles 22:26:59 <MattKrass> also, does it make sense to terminate a sideline in a reversing U? 22:27:17 <PublicServer> <Spike> Chris can you check his save? i'm about to jump into bed.. 22:27:18 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no matt 22:27:27 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> matts save 22:27:35 <PublicServer> <Damalix> so the S curves are fine unless there are two left turns or 2 righe turns in 5 tiles 22:27:38 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> whats wrong with it? 22:27:43 <MattKrass> hmm? 22:27:51 <PublicServer> <Spike> can you check it and give him advice and such? 22:27:59 <MattKrass> please? :) 22:28:14 <Chris_Booth> yeah i can 22:28:19 <PublicServer> <A3aan> so this balancer good and finished now? 22:28:27 <Chris_Booth> yes A3aan 22:28:36 <PublicServer> <A3aan> sweet :) 22:28:41 <PublicServer> <Spike> Damalix: check some to the E i made some examples 22:28:51 <PublicServer> <A3aan> thnx to Mark for this layout :) 22:29:27 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth #1 has left the game (connection lost) 22:29:39 <PublicServer> <Spike> oh noes.. chris tried to clone himself 22:29:41 <PublicServer> <Spike> no another! 22:29:45 <PublicServer> <Spike> i can't handle that! 22:29:46 <PublicServer> <Spike> :) 22:31:00 <PublicServer> <Damalix> G'night guys, see you tomorow to add some trains in that network :p 22:31:10 <PublicServer> <Damalix> (hopefully) 22:31:13 <PublicServer> <A3aan> night 22:31:19 <PublicServer> <Spike> same for me.. cya :) 22:31:22 <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (leaving) 22:31:44 <PublicServer> *** Damalix has left the game (connection lost) 22:32:07 <damalix> argh :/ Ottd crashed on exit :/ 22:32:13 <PublicServer> *** Kolo has left the game (leaving) 22:32:18 *** Kolo has quit IRC 22:33:05 <MattKrass> Chris_Booth, do you need the savegame again? 22:33:56 <Chris_Booth> i have the save 22:34:01 <MattKrass> cool 22:34:02 <Chris_Booth> just puting some signs on it 22:34:08 <Chris_Booth> and made you a nice example 22:34:13 <Chris_Booth> just about to send it back 22:34:22 <MattKrass> alright 22:34:24 <MattKrass> thank you 22:35:37 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (connection lost) 22:36:28 *** MattKrass has quit IRC 22:37:21 *** MattKrass has joined #openttdcoop 22:37:22 <MattKrass> and there it goes again... 22:37:24 <MattKrass> stupid internet 22:37:27 <MattKrass> anyways 22:38:02 <Chris_Booth> just 1 sec sorry delay MattKrass 22:38:04 <Chris_Booth> http://www.2shared.com/file/8909473/934100a3/first_sideline.html 22:38:05 <Webster> Title: 2shared - download first_sideline.sav (at www.2shared.com) 22:38:08 <MattKrass> no problems 22:38:08 <Chris_Booth> there you go 22:38:14 <MattKrass> thanks 22:39:30 <Chris_Booth> !password 22:39:30 <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: egging 22:39:45 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 22:40:15 *** damalix has quit IRC 22:40:54 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> so just BBH 02 to fix 22:40:57 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and 2 stations 22:41:15 <PublicServer> <A3aan> seems like 22:41:24 <PublicServer> <A3aan> steel is fully connected now 22:41:30 <MattKrass> got the file 22:41:33 <MattKrass> I see the signs, thank you 22:41:43 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no problems matt 22:41:57 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> lol i love !no choices 22:42:19 <MattKrass> so you prefer the terminus to the roro? 22:42:29 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> matt in a small place yes 22:42:34 <MattKrass> I see 22:42:39 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> they cause less slows 22:42:46 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> for the space the assume 22:43:02 <MattKrass> so when you have open expanses, use a roro, otherwise a terminus, generally? 22:43:03 <PublicServer> <A3aan> the !no choices is evil i guess 22:43:35 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yes to all questions 22:43:57 <MattKrass> in your example, I understand it mostly, except the dual bridge in parallel 22:43:59 <MattKrass> why? 22:44:18 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> if the line is busy it stops a jam 22:44:52 <Chris_Booth> !tunnels 22:44:52 <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: !tunnels <trainlength> <gap>: Returns amount of tunnels/bridges needed. Formula: (<gap>+<trainlength>-2)/(<trainlength>+2) 22:44:57 <Chris_Booth> !tunnels 5 7 22:44:57 <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 5 and gap 7. 22:45:06 <MattKrass> I don't understand how, I mean the bridge on the left is useful if the bridge on the right is in use, but unless the train is really short, its still going to block the second bridge exit/entrance 22:45:27 <Chris_Booth> no it wont 22:45:30 <Chris_Booth> as they are moving off 22:45:38 <MattKrass> oh I see 22:45:40 <Chris_Booth> check out our saves 22:45:45 <MattKrass> I think I get it now 22:45:49 <Chris_Booth> !archive 22:45:49 <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: http://www.openttdcoop.ORG/wiki/PublicServer:Archive | http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/ProZone:Archive | http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/MemberZone:Archive 22:46:32 <MattKrass> so I need to round out my curves I see 22:46:41 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yes you do 22:46:48 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and enable realistic accleration 22:47:06 <MattKrass> and your sideline example is back to back, no gap between them, except by the bridges 22:47:08 <MattKrass> hmm 22:47:23 <MattKrass> so put my curves around the outside? 22:47:31 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yes 22:47:35 <MattKrass> alright 22:49:44 *** Zarenor has quit IRC 22:49:59 *** Zarenor has joined #openttdcoop 22:51:29 <PublicServer> <A3aan> so whats next? 22:51:42 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> fix BBH 02 22:51:43 <PublicServer> <A3aan> i heard Mark say he would so Sawmill 22:51:50 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and build the other stations 22:52:12 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yeah leave sawmill 22:52:19 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> so town dorp 22:52:24 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and BBH 02 fixes 22:52:31 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> then some SLa 22:52:34 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> SLs 22:52:42 <PublicServer> <A3aan> town drop should be terminus according to plan :-/ 22:52:48 <Chris_Booth> yes 22:53:25 <A3aan> i can make a 2 platform terminus, after that i'm lost lol 22:53:43 <Chris_Booth> i will show a realy nice 1 22:53:46 <Chris_Booth> let me find it 22:54:01 <A3aan> sure, go ahead 22:54:50 <A3aan> i think sawmill can be done same as steel 22:55:13 <A3aan> entrance in the north across water, exit west 22:55:36 *** Zarenor-AFK has joined #openttdcoop 22:55:38 <Chris_Booth> http://openttdcoop.org/2007/10/10/terminus-station-tutorial/ 22:55:41 <Chris_Booth> read that 22:55:49 <Chris_Booth> and we can try that a town area 22:55:50 *** Zarenor has quit IRC 22:56:04 <A3aan> on my way 22:56:05 *** ccfreak2k has quit IRC 22:56:37 *** csuke has quit IRC 22:56:39 <PublicServer> *** csuke has left the game (leaving) 22:57:12 *** ccfreak2k has joined #openttdcoop 22:57:21 *** Phoenix_the_II has quit IRC 22:57:22 <A3aan> so you want to make a multiply of those terminus? 22:57:32 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yes 22:57:35 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> say 4 22:57:42 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> 2 each diection 22:58:02 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> 16 pltforms 22:58:11 <MattKrass> why are double tunnels bad? 22:58:11 *** ccfreak2k has quit IRC 22:58:16 <PublicServer> <A3aan> lets start 22:58:22 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> they are not 22:58:29 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> they are un doubled 22:58:35 <MattKrass> ? 22:58:46 <PublicServer> <A3aan> what is that forest doing there :-/ 22:58:56 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> the tunnels should be doubled if you ever use the line 22:58:59 *** Zarenor-AFK has quit IRC 22:59:14 *** Zarenor has joined #openttdcoop 22:59:15 <MattKrass> ah 22:59:17 <MattKrass> I get it 22:59:25 <MattKrass> put 4 tunnels for 2 tracks 22:59:28 <MattKrass> like the bridge thing 22:59:32 <AlexVP> !password 22:59:33 <PublicServer> AlexVP: hovels 22:59:38 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yes the same 22:59:57 <PublicServer> *** Spec joined the game 23:00:21 <MattKrass> thanks 23:00:23 <MattKrass> sorry if I'm annoying 23:00:31 <PublicServer> <A3aan> Chris Booth: what did you mean with 2 facing each direction? 23:00:53 *** Zarenor-AFK has joined #openttdcoop 23:01:46 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> check Maningpool Falls Woods 23:02:11 <PublicServer> <A3aan> i see, but why that way? 23:02:30 <PublicServer> <A3aan> there's no line from the north 23:02:35 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> as you every 2 you build you waste 2 tiles 23:02:39 *** ccfreak2k has joined #openttdcoop 23:02:56 <PublicServer> <A3aan> true, beacause of the exit lines 23:03:16 *** Zarenor-AFK has quit IRC 23:03:22 <PublicServer> <A3aan> whats the builder board all about? 23:03:30 *** Zarenor-AFK has joined #openttdcoop 23:05:23 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ahh the builders board 23:05:29 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> just add you name if you build something 23:05:36 <PublicServer> <A3aan> ok :) 23:05:36 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> any how i have to go to bed now 23:05:40 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i need to be up early 23:05:44 <MattKrass> night 23:05:46 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (leaving) 23:06:15 <A3aan> night 23:06:46 *** StarLite` has quit IRC 23:07:15 *** Zarenor has quit IRC 23:07:37 *** pugi has quit IRC 23:13:28 *** StarLite has joined #openttdcoop 23:13:28 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o StarLite 23:16:34 *** Osai has quit IRC 23:16:34 *** XeryusTC has quit IRC 23:16:34 *** SmatZ has quit IRC 23:16:34 *** tneo has quit IRC 23:16:35 *** planetmaker has quit IRC 23:18:33 *** Phoenix_the_II has joined #openttdcoop 23:21:17 *** Progman has quit IRC 23:23:06 *** Zarenor-AFK has quit IRC 23:23:20 *** Zarenor has joined #openttdcoop 23:26:50 *** Phoenix_the_II has quit IRC 23:28:44 *** Phoenix_the_II has joined #openttdcoop 23:29:07 *** Zarenor-AFK has joined #openttdcoop 23:31:17 *** TrainzStoffe has joined #openttdcoop 23:34:23 *** Zarenor has quit IRC 23:35:21 *** Stoffe has quit IRC 23:35:21 *** TrainzStoffe is now known as Stoffe 23:37:02 *** Osai has joined #openttdcoop 23:37:02 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Osai 23:37:08 *** Zarenor-AFK has quit IRC 23:37:12 *** Zarenor-AFK has joined #openttdcoop 23:37:38 *** XeryusTC has joined #openttdcoop 23:37:39 *** Webster sets mode: +o XeryusTC 23:37:43 <Webster> The third coop bot 23:38:07 *** SmatZ has joined #openttdcoop 23:40:38 *** tneo has joined #openttdcoop 23:40:39 *** Webster sets mode: +o tneo 23:41:24 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 23:42:58 <PublicServer> *** A3aan has left the game (leaving) 23:42:59 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 23:43:04 *** Zulan has quit IRC 23:43:12 <A3aan> off to bed 23:43:27 *** A3aan has quit IRC 23:47:41 *** Zarenor-AFK has quit IRC 23:47:56 *** Zarenor-AFK has joined #openttdcoop 23:50:58 *** AlexVP has left #openttdcoop 23:53:50 *** MattKrass has quit IRC 23:53:53 *** MattKrass has joined #openttdcoop 23:55:20 *** ODM has quit IRC 23:55:36 *** ^Spike^ has quit IRC 23:57:22 *** Zarenor-AFK has quit IRC 23:57:36 *** Zarenor-AFK has joined #openttdcoop 23:58:12 *** mixrin has quit IRC 23:58:18 *** Guest677 has joined #openttdcoop