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Log for #openttdcoop on 5th December 2009:
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07:06:12  <SekiSelu> !password
07:06:13  <PublicServer> SekiSelu: smacks
07:06:33  <SekiSelu> !dl win32
07:06:33  <PublicServer> SekiSelu: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r18400/openttd-trunk-r18400-windows-win32.zip
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07:33:34  <Muxy> @?
07:33:46  <Muxy> !?
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07:44:11  <PublicServer> JinGleeB1ll: caucus
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09:37:52  <flo> @quickstart
09:37:55  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Quickstart
09:38:05  <flo> !password
09:38:05  <PublicServer> flo: piking
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09:55:53  <xmix> !password
09:55:53  <PublicServer> xmix: graced
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11:10:52  <Mark> morning
11:12:13  <damalix> 'morning mark
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11:15:31  <Mark> !rcon magic_bulldozer
11:15:31  <PublicServer> Mark: Magic bulldozer is disabled.
11:15:34  <Mark> !rcon patch magic_bulldozer
11:15:34  <PublicServer> Mark: 'magic_bulldozer' is an unknown setting.
11:15:43  <Mark> !rcon magic_bulldozer 1
11:15:43  <PublicServer> Mark: Saving map to magic_bulldozer_1_temp.sav
11:15:43  <PublicServer> Mark: Map saved successfully, loading
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11:16:24  <Techinica> !password
11:16:24  <PublicServer> Techinica: balder
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11:16:35  <PublicServer> <Mark> brb
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11:38:13  <damalix> !password
11:38:13  <PublicServer> damalix: covets
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11:44:47  <PublicServer> <Mark> now get in here :P
11:44:58  <PublicServer> <Mark> and build yourself a nice BBH
11:47:27  <damalix> !password
11:47:27  <PublicServer> damalix: covets
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11:47:55  <PublicServer> <Mark> :)
11:48:03  <PublicServer> <Damalix> ^^
11:48:37  <Techinica> !password
11:48:37  <PublicServer> Techinica: covets
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11:55:52  <PublicServer> <Techinica> What's something easy a newbie can be trusted with? :P
11:56:00  <PublicServer> <Mark> a SLH
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11:56:09  <PublicServer> <Mark> or, better, building mainlines
11:56:31  <Gamestah|Glimmer> u guys use the nightly or last stable?
11:56:46  <PublicServer> <Techinica> I noticed whoever built at BBH10 only has LL5RR....
11:56:49  <Mark> @quickstart
11:56:52  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Quickstart
11:56:55  <Mark> read that
11:57:00  <LordAzamath> !download
11:57:00  <PublicServer> LordAzamath: !download autostart|autottd|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x
11:57:01  <PublicServer> <Techinica> not even 5 in some places.
11:57:02  <LordAzamath> !dwin
11:57:05  <PublicServer> <Mark> Techinica: that's what the plan says
11:57:06  <LordAzamath> hmm
11:57:17  <PublicServer> <Mark> and the 5 is not important
11:57:21  <LordAzamath> !download win32
11:57:21  <PublicServer> LordAzamath: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r18400/openttd-trunk-r18400-windows-win32.zip
11:57:22  <PublicServer> <Mark> especially not at hubs
11:57:46  <PublicServer> <Techinica> ah nvm. didn't see the 'unless stated otherwise'
12:07:07  <damalix> @tunnel 3 5
12:07:07  <Webster> (depreciated try !tunnels) Usage of tunnels command: tunnels <TrainLength> <TunnelLength>
12:07:12  <damalix> !tunnel 3 5
12:07:12  <PublicServer> damalix: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 3 and gap 5.
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12:09:31  <hylje> @tunnels 5
12:09:31  <Webster> For trainlength 5: < 6 needs 2, 7 - 13 needs 3, 14 - 20 needs 4.
12:09:38  <PublicServer> <Mark> would be nice if my BBH was finished now
12:09:42  <hylje> @tunnels 3
12:09:42  <Webster> For trainlength 3: < 2 needs 2, 3 - 7 needs 3, 8 - 12 needs 4.
12:09:46  <PublicServer> <Mark> but i need another join
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12:14:44  <PublicServer> <Techinica> How should I approach going around this coal mine? (Between BBH10 and BBH03)
12:14:58  <PublicServer> <Mark> uh
12:15:07  <PublicServer> <Mark> that looks very easy to me?
12:15:26  <PublicServer> <Techinica> I'm just wondering about connecting it later...
12:15:33  <PublicServer> <Damalix> Turn left, turn right :)
12:15:47  <PublicServer> <Mark> we usually don't connect industries close to the ML
12:15:52  <PublicServer> <Techinica> Okay.
12:15:55  <PublicServer> <Mark> but if we do, we'll be able to hack it in with TL3
12:16:01  <PublicServer> <Mark> however you do it
12:16:08  <PublicServer> <Damalix> and if we do, we care about it later on
12:16:15  <PublicServer> <Techinica> forgive my noobiness, just don't want to mess things up :P
12:16:44  <PublicServer> <Mark> well it's better to ask 10 times than to screw up once, i guess
12:16:44  <damalix> !tunnel 3 6
12:16:44  <PublicServer> damalix: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 3 and gap 6.
12:16:48  <damalix> !tunnel 3 7
12:16:48  <PublicServer> damalix: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 3 and gap 7.
12:16:52  <damalix> !tunnel 3 8
12:16:52  <PublicServer> damalix: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 3 and gap 8.
12:16:55  <damalix> !tunnel 3 9
12:16:55  <PublicServer> damalix: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 3 and gap 9.
12:17:00  <damalix> !tunnel 3 10
12:17:00  <PublicServer> damalix: You need 3 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 3 and gap 10.
12:17:17  <hylje> damalix: just use @tunnels TL
12:17:18  <PublicServer> <Mark> there trackwork pretty much done
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12:18:03  <PublicServer> <Mark> came out pretty compact if i say so myself
12:20:45  <Gamestah|Glimmer> mmm how come grfs not detecting i have downloaded the budle as the wiki says too
12:20:53  <Gamestah|Glimmer> and server still not pickign them up
12:21:03  <Gamestah|Glimmer> game*
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12:21:59  <Mark> you may need some from bananas as well
12:22:05  <planetmaker> Gamestah|Glimmer: you have to unzip the grf bundle into the data dir
12:22:12  <planetmaker> and download stuff from bananas
12:22:16  <Mark> :)
12:22:17  <planetmaker> @quickstart
12:22:20  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Quickstart
12:26:31  <PublicServer> *** Mark has left the game (leaving)
12:26:44  <Mark> will be back later
12:26:46  <Mark> probably
12:27:04  <thejanitor> !password
12:27:05  <PublicServer> thejanitor: punned
12:29:11  <Gamestah|Glimmer> i i supposed to be moveing the folder
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12:29:18  <Gamestah|Glimmer> ottdc_grfpack
12:29:25  <Gamestah|Glimmer> somewhere other than root or datA?
12:29:33  <StarLite> @tunnels 3
12:29:33  <Webster> For trainlength 3: < 2 needs 2, 3 - 7 needs 3, 8 - 12 needs 4.
12:30:02  <Gamestah|Glimmer> am i*
12:30:34  <KenjiE20> Gamestah|Glimmer: have you read the wiki page were you got it yet?
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12:31:19  <Gamestah|Glimmer> yes and I put it in my subfolder
12:31:21  <Gamestah|Glimmer> and it did sfa
12:31:49  <Gamestah|Glimmer> i am thinking that the files/folders within the ottdc)grfpack folder may need to be moved to the data folder
12:32:37  <Gamestah|Glimmer> yeah there you go
12:32:54  <Gamestah|Glimmer> sigh couldnt make it easier could u guys lol
12:32:57  <Gamestah|Glimmer> !password
12:32:57  <PublicServer> Gamestah|Glimmer: punned
12:32:57  <KenjiE20> if it did, don't you think we'd have packed it that way?
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12:39:22  <Gamestah|Glimmer> and after all that i have to go lol
12:39:27  <Gamestah|Glimmer> just my luck
12:39:28  <Gamestah|Glimmer> lol
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12:51:18  <PublicServer> <Damalix> BBH06 done :)
12:52:43  <PublicServer> <Techinica> Nearly finished signaling Marks BBH03...
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12:58:47  <PublicServer> <Techinica> Looks good :P
12:58:52  <PublicServer> <Damalix> ^^
12:59:08  <PublicServer> <Damalix> I'll go off for a while if you've finished
12:59:15  <PublicServer> <Techinica> yeah
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13:17:58  <Paul2> !password
13:17:58  <PublicServer> Paul2: bribes
13:19:50  <Paul2> erm...
13:20:09  <Paul2> as of about 24/48hrs has the game been restarted?
13:20:54  <KenjiE20> @topic get 2
13:20:54  <Webster> KenjiE20: PSG #168 (r18400)
13:21:10  <Paul2> I cant remember what it was before
13:21:22  <Paul2> last time I looked it was 'this map looks like canada' ?
13:21:30  <Paul2> and it was planning
13:21:47  <KenjiE20> this maps canada
13:23:14  <Paul2> oh...i get version mismatch on it now, and I've connected previously
13:23:19  <Paul2> did something change?
13:23:53  <KenjiE20> @topic get 2
13:23:53  <Webster> KenjiE20: PSG #168 (r18400)
13:24:03  <KenjiE20> clearly
13:25:19  <JinGleeBell> Paul2: I reccomend OpenTTD Autoupdater, it will automatically DL the most recent version and connect you.
13:26:05  <Paul2> oh ok, but I didn't realise the version updated mid-game!
13:26:28  <JinGleeBell> It does if a show-stopper is found.
13:26:44  <Ammler> simple dummy protection ;-)
13:26:53  <KenjiE20> or we just feel like it :P
13:26:54  <JinGleeBell> Like, you open a dialogue and you release a horde of hellspawn on the first 203 trains.
13:27:10  <Paul2> ah cool :)
13:27:12  <JinGleeBell> True Story
13:27:51  <Xaroth> Paul2: use AutoTTD, if you use that to connect to the server it'll update for you if there is a need to :)
13:28:06  <Xaroth> works on just about every server as well :)
13:28:07  <KenjiE20> (if we've done it right :)
13:28:30  <KenjiE20> or is that the other one?
13:28:40  <Xaroth> done what right?
13:29:19  <KenjiE20> wait, OTTDAU is the one we need to update stuff for
13:29:25  <Xaroth> yeh :)
13:29:31  <Xaroth> AutoTTD queries the server directly :)
13:31:18  <Techinica> !password
13:31:18  <PublicServer> Techinica: coater
13:31:21  <Paul2> heh cool ottdau is what I have found from google
13:31:29  <Xaroth> !dl autottd
13:31:29  <PublicServer> Xaroth: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/AutoTTD
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13:31:46  <KenjiE20> !dl
13:31:46  <PublicServer> KenjiE20: !dl autostart|autottd|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x
13:31:57  <KenjiE20> ^ anything with auto in its name :P
13:33:52  <Paul2> oh openttdau seems quite good..
13:34:00  <Paul2> i will look at the others in a sex
13:34:01  <Paul2> sec
13:34:06  <Paul2> *sigh*
13:34:23  <KenjiE20> guess where your brain is :P
13:34:34  <Paul2> ah ha and I can easily maintain multiple versions <3
13:34:40  <KenjiE20> nice down in this here gutter eh?
13:34:59  <Paul2> rule 34 on openttd
13:35:41  <KenjiE20> not sure I can figure out / want to figure out, what that'd look like
13:38:58  <Paul2> :D
13:39:14  <Paul2> Paul2, lowering the tone wherever he goes.
13:39:40  <Paul2> I'm going to ask another stupid question now :)
13:39:57  <Paul2> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Public_Server the png that is produced of server stats. How is that done?
13:40:05  <KenjiE20> magic
13:40:29  <Paul2> aelful. would ask again. A+++
13:40:34  <Paul2> helpful*
13:40:47  <Paul2> typing fail today
13:40:50  <KenjiE20> aka openttdlib and imagemagik probably
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13:42:59  <Paul2> ok
13:43:40  <KenjiE20> incidently
13:43:44  <KenjiE20> Osai: ping
13:46:51  <Paul2> !server
13:46:58  <Paul2> !info
13:46:58  <PublicServer> Paul2: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Cafingway Transport'  Year Founded: 1950  Money: 65923565  Loan: 0  Value: 66037768  (T:0, R:20, P:14, S:0) unprotected
13:48:02  <Paul2> !ip
13:48:02  <PublicServer> Paul2: ps.openttdcoop.org
13:51:21  <Paul2> !password
13:51:21  <PublicServer> Paul2: drifts
13:51:28  <PublicServer> *** Player joined the game
13:51:28  <Webster> Player, please change your in game nick
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13:56:33  <Paul2> sorry that was me
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14:08:30  <planetmaker> Paul2: you can always rename yourself ingame by means of using the console
14:08:41  <planetmaker> better though: edit your (global) openttd.cfg :-)
14:08:46  <Paul2> Yeah I know, was just testing :)
14:09:00  <planetmaker> well... I have one cfg which I use for my 20 installs or so.
14:09:52  <Paul2> yeah I see the autoupdate puts some global stuff in my documents.
14:09:55  <Paul2> sensible++
14:11:37  <KenjiE20> 20, geez pm, and I thought I was bad with 6
14:11:58  <planetmaker> KenjiE20: 5.1GB OpenTTD stuff here :-P
14:12:05  <Paul2> bloody hell...
14:12:51  <KenjiE20> @calc 333+33.3+45
14:12:51  <Webster> KenjiE20: 411.3
14:13:01  <planetmaker> hm?
14:13:02  <KenjiE20> a measly 411MB :)
14:13:28  <KenjiE20> oh wait
14:13:34  <Techinica> 78.3Mb in my OpenTTD folder :P
14:13:36  <planetmaker> well. Each repo is about 100MB. Add 400MB in the ~/Documents/OpenTTD...
14:13:42  <KenjiE20> @calc 411.3+73.5
14:13:42  <Webster> KenjiE20: 484.8
14:13:58  <planetmaker> and a few hundred MB for grfdev folder and 800MB from our complete coop svn server
14:14:14  <KenjiE20> ^ that's just installs, MyDocs data and stored GRFs on the shares
14:14:27  <planetmaker> yeah. About the same size here for that
14:14:30  <KenjiE20> If I add in the linux side
14:14:39  <KenjiE20> tht'd go up by about 110Mb
14:14:55  <KenjiE20> (1 svn and two bin dirs)
14:15:04  <planetmaker> I was surprised about the size when I upgraded OS a few months back...
14:15:18  <KenjiE20> heh
14:15:26  <planetmaker> well. I use hg. Thus each version I use is 100MB
14:15:34  <planetmaker> But I have then complete history
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14:15:57  <KenjiE20> /dev/hda3              94G   88G  1.2G  99% /home/kenji/store
14:15:59  <KenjiE20> /dev/sda1             420G  391G  7.7G  99% /home/kenji/shares
14:16:01  <KenjiE20> eek
14:16:09  <planetmaker> he... My collection of diffs is 35MB text :-)
14:16:17  <sietse> !players
14:16:18  <PublicServer> sietse: Client 52 (Orange) is Techinica, in company 1 (Cafingway Transport)
14:16:53  <KenjiE20> I have waaay too many vids and such
14:18:07  <KenjiE20> been deliberating deleting Heroes Series 1&2
14:20:00  <sietse> !dl lin
14:20:00  <PublicServer> sietse: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r18400/openttd-trunk-r18400-linux-generic-i686.tar.bz2
14:21:19  <sietse> !password
14:21:19  <PublicServer> sietse: fussed
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14:41:42  <damalix> !password
14:41:42  <PublicServer> damalix: purges
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14:42:26  <PublicServer> <Damalix> re
14:42:34  <damalix> !players
14:42:36  <PublicServer> damalix: Client 52 (Orange) is Techinica, in company 1 (Cafingway Transport)
14:42:36  <PublicServer> damalix: Client 56 (Orange) is Sietse, in company 1 (Cafingway Transport)
14:42:36  <PublicServer> damalix: Client 57 (Orange) is Thraxian, in company 1 (Cafingway Transport)
14:42:36  <PublicServer> damalix: Client 59 (Orange) is Damalix, in company 1 (Cafingway Transport)
14:42:41  <PublicServer> <Sietse> hey
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15:32:40  <Chris_Booth> good morning all
15:32:48  <PublicServer> <Sietse> hey
15:32:58  <PublicServer> <Sietse> nice good morning at 15.30 :)
15:33:15  <PublicServer> <Damalix> 'morning
15:33:20  <PublicServer> <Damalix> 16.30 here :p
15:33:23  <Chris_Booth> lol will i just woke up
15:33:33  <Chris_Booth> its 15:30 here
15:34:25  <PublicServer> <Sietse> this terrain is bad
15:34:28  <Chris_Booth> whats happening with this game?
15:34:42  <PublicServer> <Sietse> your plan didn't succeed :S
15:34:53  <PublicServer> <Sietse> just starting to buidl
15:34:54  <PublicServer> <Sietse> build*
15:35:00  <Chris_Booth> does it still only have 6 votes?
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15:50:54  <Mark> evening
15:50:58  <PublicServer> *** Mark joined the game
15:50:59  <PublicServer> <Sietse> hey
15:51:16  <PublicServer> <Sietse> congrats Mark, with the winning plan :)
15:51:24  <PublicServer> <Mark> thanks
15:51:47  <PublicServer> <Mark> oh nice, thanks Techinica
15:51:56  <PublicServer> <Techinica> you ought to check it over :P
15:52:05  <PublicServer> <Techinica> but I'm pretty sure its okay.
15:52:09  <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah quite a few things have to change
15:52:12  <PublicServer> <Sietse> what trains will be used?
15:52:17  <PublicServer> <Mark> needs prios and some signals gaps
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15:55:05  <PublicServer> <Techinica> I'm attempting a BBH...
15:55:14  <PublicServer> <Techinica> Feel free to destroy it when you think its crap :P
15:55:22  <damalix> !password
15:55:22  <PublicServer> damalix: ginned
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15:57:17  <PublicServer> <Sietse> hard to build with this terrain
15:57:24  <PublicServer> <Mark> it's fun
15:57:31  <PublicServer> <Mark> imho
15:57:43  <PublicServer> <Mark> just avoid long diagonal sections
15:57:47  <PublicServer> <Damalix> yeah that's interesting, trying to build without too much of TF
15:57:50  <PublicServer> <Mark> should be possible with TL3
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15:59:08  <PublicServer> <Sietse> aai, that's the trick
15:59:13  <csuke> !players
15:59:14  <PublicServer> csuke: Client 52 (Orange) is Techinica, in company 1 (Cafingway Transport)
15:59:14  <PublicServer> csuke: Client 56 (Orange) is Sietse, in company 1 (Cafingway Transport)
15:59:14  <PublicServer> csuke: Client 60 (Orange) is Mark, in company 1 (Cafingway Transport)
15:59:15  <PublicServer> csuke: Client 62 (Orange) is Damalix, in company 1 (Cafingway Transport)
15:59:16  <csuke> !password
15:59:16  <PublicServer> csuke: ginned
15:59:23  <PublicServer> <Sietse> I completely fail with making it compact
15:59:44  <csuke> !dl win32
15:59:44  <PublicServer> csuke: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r18400/openttd-trunk-r18400-windows-win32.zip
16:00:15  <PublicServer> <Sietse> I never know how long (diagonal length) the waiting zones for joins need to be
16:00:31  <PublicServer> <Mark> use the measurement tool :P
16:00:48  <PublicServer> <Sietse> measurement tool?
16:00:53  <PublicServer> <Mark> diagonal tiles are longer, so using 3 diagonal tiles for TL3 should be fine
16:01:02  <PublicServer> <Damalix> in advanced config
16:01:19  <PublicServer> <Mark> patches - interface - display options - show a measurement tool..
16:01:49  <PublicServer> <Sietse> I don't have any patches section
16:01:57  <PublicServer> <Mark> advanced settings
16:01:58  <PublicServer> <Sietse> I have Interface / Display options
16:02:00  <PublicServer> <Mark> new name :P
16:02:04  <csuke> !password
16:02:04  <PublicServer> csuke: ginned
16:02:14  <PublicServer> *** csuke joined the game
16:02:15  <PublicServer> <Mark> uh that's what i said
16:02:18  <PublicServer> <Sietse> got it :)
16:08:12  <csuke> !define
16:08:15  <csuke> !define tf
16:09:01  <PublicServer> <Sietse> pretty much done besides signalling
16:09:45  <PublicServer> <Mark> looks good
16:10:00  <PublicServer> <Sietse> ye?
16:10:00  <PublicServer> <Mark> can i make one small change to reduce footprint considerably?
16:10:12  * XeryusTC huggles Mark 
16:10:18  <PublicServer> <Mark> :)
16:10:24  <PublicServer> <Sietse> ofcourse, if you tell me :)
16:10:29  <PublicServer> <Sietse> so I can learn
16:10:30  * Mark huggles XeryusTC back
16:10:43  <PublicServer> <Mark> meh it's nothing special :P
16:11:12  <PublicServer> <Mark> there
16:11:26  <PublicServer> <Mark> single lines hovering way outside the hub are ugly :P
16:11:27  <PublicServer> <Sietse> yes, considered that, but I was less hostile to that village ;P
16:11:55  <PublicServer> <Sietse> I agree :)
16:12:25  <PublicServer> <csuke> can i do bbh04?
16:12:35  <PublicServer> <Mark> sure
16:12:40  <PublicServer> <Damalix> Why not ?
16:12:44  <PublicServer> <Sietse> someone signalling the hub BBH09 in a wrong way :)
16:13:11  <PublicServer> <Sietse> we aren't in the UK :)
16:13:35  <PublicServer> <csuke> what's the TL?
16:13:37  <PublicServer> <Damalix> 3
16:14:45  <KenjiE20> @config reply.whenAddressedBy.chars
16:14:45  <Webster> KenjiE20: Global: @; #openttdcoop: @
16:14:48  <KenjiE20> @config reply.whenAddressedBy.strings
16:14:48  <Webster> KenjiE20: Global: ?: j: def: jargon: d: define:; #openttdcoop: ?: j: def: jargon: d: define:
16:14:51  <KenjiE20> ^ csuke
16:28:48  <Chris_Booth> Mark: how can you say you win with only 6 votes?
16:29:13  <PublicServer> <Mark> well, 4v1v1 was obvious enough for me
16:29:17  <PublicServer> <Mark> your plan sucks tbh
16:29:49  <Chris_Booth> so does yours tbh
16:29:55  <PublicServer> <Mark> not at all :P
16:30:01  <PublicServer> <Mark> btw, member votes count double
16:30:01  <XeryusTC> all plans sucked
16:30:04  <XeryusTC> when i looked
16:30:09  <PublicServer> <Mark> so it's 7v1v1
16:30:17  <PublicServer> <Mark> you suck
16:30:19  <XeryusTC> that is true indeed
16:30:24  <XeryusTC> the member votes thing
16:30:25  <Chris_Booth> no it isnt Mark you tool
16:31:40  <damalix> !tunnel 3 7
16:31:40  <PublicServer> damalix: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 3 and gap 7.
16:35:37  <PublicServer> <Sietse> can anyone comment / check BBH09 for me?
16:48:09  <PublicServer> <Techinica> Why is my client list so tiny that I cant see anyones names?
16:48:18  <PublicServer> <Sietse> I have the same
16:48:23  <PublicServer> <csuke> me too
16:48:25  <PublicServer> <Damalix> me too
16:48:31  <PublicServer> <Sietse> since the new nightly
16:48:35  <PublicServer> <Techinica> atleast I'm not alone...
16:48:41  <PublicServer> <Sietse> last public game it was still big enough
16:48:50  <PublicServer> <Damalix> Techinica: your name is too long :p
16:49:04  <PublicServer> <Techinica> ah
16:49:07  <PublicServer> <Techinica> :P
16:49:26  <PublicServer> <Techinica> Who wants to be the first to rubbish my first BBH?
16:49:38  <PublicServer> <Sietse> hehehe
16:49:48  <PublicServer> *** Damalix has left the game (connection lost)
16:49:55  <PublicServer> <Sietse> my 2nd one, hopefully not failing miserably again :P
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17:09:08  <damalix> !password
17:09:08  <PublicServer> damalix: nettle
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17:17:42  <PublicServer> <Sietse> how many drop stations are needed at paper mill?
17:17:49  <PublicServer> <Sietse> and how many pickup?
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17:23:35  <Paul2> !ip
17:23:35  <PublicServer> Paul2: ps.openttdcoop.org
17:24:36  <PublicServer> *** lomba has left the game (connection lost)
17:25:33  <Techinica> !password
17:25:33  <PublicServer> Techinica: redder
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17:26:32  <Paul2> so autottd doesnt work for me
17:26:49  <Paul2> it downloads the latest version and then just stops and if you launch the game its still on the old one
17:27:08  <PublicServer> <Techinica> I tried it a couple of days ago, and no matter  what I do it keeps resetting my install directory to C:\OpenTTD\
17:27:57  <Paul2> ah
17:28:12  <Paul2> thats not where mine is..i set the directoty though
17:28:32  <PublicServer> *** Damalix has left the game (connection lost)
17:28:36  <PublicServer> <Techinica> check whether its still set on that directory or not
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17:29:26  <Paul2> tools->options->directories alwasy just points to top level (desktop)
17:33:19  * Paul2 adds AutoTTD to list of software that doesnt work
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17:35:03  <Paul2> !dl win32
17:35:03  <PublicServer> Paul2: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r18400/openttd-trunk-r18400-windows-win32.zip
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17:36:07  <jondisti> !password
17:36:07  <PublicServer> jondisti: scopes
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17:36:30  <HamSandwich> !password
17:36:30  <PublicServer> HamSandwich: scopes
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17:37:56  <Paul2> !find magic bulldozer
17:38:04  <Paul2> what is magic bulldoer?
17:38:28  <PublicServer> <HamSandwich> be careful what you destroy.
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17:38:53  <PublicServer> <csuke> was running myself into a dead end
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17:47:06  <PublicServer> <csuke> anyone wanna signal bbh04 for me?
17:47:15  <PublicServer> <csuke> :)
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17:57:48  <Intexon> !download win32
17:57:49  <PublicServer> Intexon: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r18400/openttd-trunk-r18400-windows-win32.zip
17:59:58  <Intexon> !password
17:59:58  <PublicServer> Intexon: joyful
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18:03:52  <Techinica> !players
18:03:53  <PublicServer> Techinica: Client 79 (Orange) is jondisti, in company 1 (Cafingway Transport)
18:03:54  <PublicServer> Techinica: Client 56 (Orange) is Sietse, in company 1 (Cafingway Transport)
18:03:54  <PublicServer> Techinica: Client 60 is Mark, a spectator
18:03:54  <PublicServer> Techinica: Client 75 (Orange) is Techinica, in company 1 (Cafingway Transport)
18:03:54  <PublicServer> Techinica: Client 64 (Orange) is csuke, in company 1 (Cafingway Transport)
18:03:54  <PublicServer> Techinica: Client 85 (Orange) is Intexon, in company 1 (Cafingway Transport)
18:03:54  <PublicServer> Techinica: Client 83 is HamSandwich, a spectator
18:06:08  <PublicServer> <csuke> d'oh!
18:06:17  <PublicServer> <csuke> i made all lines 3!
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18:07:18  <PublicServer> <jondisti> heh
18:07:30  <PublicServer> <jondisti> you only need to fix 1 line
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18:20:46  <PublicServer> <jondisti> one more !CL :P
18:20:53  <PublicServer> <csuke> where?
18:20:59  <PublicServer> <jondisti> check signlist
18:21:16  <PublicServer> <csuke> bah
18:21:40  <PublicServer> <csuke> htmf
18:21:47  <PublicServer> <jondisti> 1 more again
18:23:38  <PublicServer> *** csuke has left the game (connection lost)
18:23:46  <csuke> !password
18:23:46  <PublicServer> csuke: suitor
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18:47:31  <PublicServer> <csuke> i found a bug!
18:47:38  <PublicServer> <Sietse> ?
18:47:40  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> what, the client list?
18:47:57  <PublicServer> <csuke> if u switch orders on an aircraft while it is circling then it won't go back to full speed
18:48:48  <planetmaker> interesting, csuke . You should report it
18:48:57  <PublicServer> <csuke> i plan to :)
18:51:39  <PublicServer> <csuke> i think it a bug with the planeset not ottd
18:52:06  <planetmaker> test it :-)
18:53:02  <PublicServer> <csuke> or not ... :S
18:53:13  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> have you seen the client list on this build?
18:53:18  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> it seems a bit small
18:53:29  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> and no resize widget
18:54:53  <PublicServer> <csuke> yeah i know
19:05:59  <PublicServer> *** csuke has left the game (connection lost)
19:10:43  <csuke> !password
19:10:44  <PublicServer> csuke: bikini
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19:31:28  <LittleBoyRick> !players
19:31:30  <PublicServer> LittleBoyRick: Client 93 is LittleBoyRick, a spectator
19:31:30  <PublicServer> LittleBoyRick: Client 56 (Orange) is Sietse, in company 1 (Cafingway Transport)
19:31:30  <PublicServer> LittleBoyRick: Client 60 is Mark, a spectator
19:31:30  <PublicServer> LittleBoyRick: Client 75 (Orange) is Techinica, in company 1 (Cafingway Transport)
19:31:30  <PublicServer> LittleBoyRick: Client 83 is HamSandwich, a spectator
19:31:33  <LittleBoyRick> !password
19:31:33  <PublicServer> LittleBoyRick: inking
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20:17:21  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> hi
20:23:40  <ODM> ellow
20:24:02  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> salut ODM
20:24:17  <ODM> oat maon!
20:25:41  <planetmaker> Kolo, can I kick you for reasons of a bug test? Nothing personal :-)
20:25:51  <planetmaker> (or just leave and re-join) ;-)
20:26:43  <planetmaker> !rcon kick 95
20:26:43  <PublicServer> planetmaker: *** Kolo has left the game (kicked by server)
20:27:06  <planetmaker> !rcon kick 60
20:27:06  <PublicServer> planetmaker: *** Mark has left the game (kicked by server)
20:27:17  <planetmaker> sorry also to you, Mark ;-)
20:28:05  <ODM> are you having fun "bugtesting?"
20:28:28  <planetmaker> ODM: look at the client list ingame
20:28:39  <planetmaker> pretty tiny, eh? ;-)
20:28:58  <ODM> uh
20:28:59  <planetmaker> And I wanted to see whether it depends on the first name's length
20:29:02  <ODM> that requires me to go ingame:p
20:29:04  <PublicServer> <Techinica> its indeed inadequate.. :P
20:30:10  <PublicServer> *** Kolo joined the game
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20:31:30  * planetmaker hugs Kolo :-)
20:32:01  <Kolo> no problem - i was afk for a while anyway
20:32:27  <ODM> afk is overrated anyway
20:32:36  <planetmaker> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/3354/getfile/4981/Cafingway%20Transport,%2002-05-1993.png <-- ODM, so you don't have to join
20:35:21  <Kolo> it's even worse in english version - only 1-2 letters from nicks visible. Seems to scale to window header.
20:37:36  <ODM> aw such service
20:37:39  <planetmaker> yeah... but it's already fixed :-P
20:37:44  <ODM> hehe
20:37:46  <ODM> doesnt look good
20:38:15  <ODM> why is your screen so tiny?
20:38:21  <ODM> also, deutsch mark:D
20:39:13  <planetmaker> why should I make it big for a screenshot?
20:39:40  <ODM> thought that mightve been your default windowsize
20:39:47  <planetmaker> either I resize my screen and make the image then - no manual resizing before upload - or I make the screenshot w/o resizing and then resize the image
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20:40:07  <ODM> like youre on some netbook:p
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21:03:07  <Benny> !players
21:03:09  <PublicServer> Benny: Client 98 (Orange) is Kolo, in company 1 (Cafingway Transport)
21:03:09  <PublicServer> Benny: Client 56 (Orange) is Sietse, in company 1 (Cafingway Transport)
21:03:09  <PublicServer> Benny: Client 75 (Orange) is Techinica, in company 1 (Cafingway Transport)
21:03:09  <PublicServer> Benny: Client 83 is HamSandwich, a spectator
21:03:13  <Benny> woo yay
21:03:17  <Benny> !dl win32
21:03:17  <PublicServer> Benny: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r18400/openttd-trunk-r18400-windows-win32.zip
21:07:34  <PublicServer> *** Techinica has left the game (connection lost)
21:08:05  <Techinica> !password
21:08:05  <PublicServer> Techinica: repels
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21:42:25  <Seppel> !password
21:42:25  <PublicServer> Seppel: legion
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21:50:35  <PublicServer> <Sietse> input of PAPER MILL doesn't need to be balanced btw
21:51:47  <PublicServer> <Techinica> Wasn't about balancing...
21:51:59  <PublicServer> <Techinica> The drop was only available to one line.
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21:52:13  <PublicServer> <Sietse> I didn't finish that part
21:52:22  <PublicServer> <Sietse> I just returned (was away for a few hours)
21:53:42  <PublicServer> <Sietse> thanks anyways
21:53:45  <PublicServer> <Sietse> great job
21:53:49  <PublicServer> *** HamSandwich has joined company #1
21:54:57  <PublicServer> <Techinica> np... started on the signals a little, then got a little carried away :P
21:55:28  <PublicServer> <Sietse> heheeh
22:01:36  <ODM> !password
22:01:36  <PublicServer> ODM: dramas
22:02:02  <PublicServer> *** 0DM joined the game
22:02:15  <PublicServer> <0DM> whats this aboot, eh?
22:02:33  <PublicServer> <Techinica> eh?
22:02:40  <PublicServer> <0DM> eh!
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22:02:48  <PublicServer> <Techinica> eh!
22:03:34  <PublicServer> <0DM> i take a short leave of absence, and mark still wins plans, sighs:p
22:03:58  <PublicServer> <Sietse> hehehe
22:04:32  <PublicServer> <Techinica> Don't worry, my plan didn't win either.
22:04:48  <PublicServer> <Techinica> Ofcourse it helps to have one...
22:04:55  <PublicServer> <0DM> hehe:P
22:05:01  <PublicServer> <0DM> i wasnt complaining about me losing
22:05:14  <PublicServer> <0DM> so what are you guys working on?
22:05:36  <PublicServer> <Techinica> I'm waiting for somebody to criticise my first attempt at a BBH...
22:05:47  <PublicServer> <0DM> i can have a go if you want
22:06:07  <PublicServer> <Techinica> go for it.
22:06:17  <PublicServer> <0DM> psst, no signals:p
22:06:51  <PublicServer> <Techinica> its bound to get modified or demolished before such time as it needs signals.
22:08:00  <PublicServer> <0DM> this is your first ever?
22:08:04  <PublicServer> <Techinica> yeah...
22:08:09  <PublicServer> <0DM> nice one
22:08:46  <PublicServer> <0DM> im not really sure about !this bit
22:08:51  <PublicServer> <Techinica> me either...
22:09:16  <PublicServer> <0DM> and you have to work on your space consumption a bit;)
22:09:20  <PublicServer> <Techinica> problem was giving access to that join to both tracks on the ML heading south
22:09:22  <PublicServer> <Sietse> I think you got too many options :)
22:09:45  <PublicServer> <Sietse> which will jam at heavy traffic imho
22:09:54  <PublicServer> <0DM> you better be a fries btw
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22:10:09  <PublicServer> <Sietse> but I am beginner so don't take my comments very seriously
22:10:16  <PublicServer> <Sietse> no, my father is ;-)
22:10:21  <PublicServer> <0DM> good enough
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22:10:49  <PublicServer> <Sietse> the This track here don't need choice for example
22:10:53  <PublicServer> <Techinica> I can probably crunch it up a bit more, but I was trying to minimise the landscaping...
22:11:21  <PublicServer> <0DM> its also a bad choice, with two lines sharing a signal block
22:11:22  <Chris_Booth> !password
22:11:22  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: impels
22:11:25  <PublicServer> <Sietse> only the "joining" line (chose which one that is) should have the choice
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22:11:40  <PublicServer> <Sietse> agree
22:11:53  <PublicServer> <0DM> i know mark wrote the article about balancing around BBH's , which i think you read
22:12:14  <PublicServer> <0DM> but tbh ive never used that much myself
22:12:18  <PublicServer> <Sietse> but only the additional line needs to be balanced
22:12:34  <PublicServer> <0DM> it can be good to allow for choices, but thats not per se
22:12:38  <PublicServer> <Sietse> the rest is fine already
22:13:04  <PublicServer> <Sietse> it will make unneccesary choices and thus increases jams
22:13:38  <PublicServer> <0DM> if you ask me there isnt a best way for those things, but i havent played in ages
22:13:47  <PublicServer> <Sietse> but my compliments,  great job!!
22:13:55  <PublicServer> <0DM> but for a first BBH you did a fine job indeed:)
22:13:56  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> to mix you mix 1 line over another
22:14:06  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> so 1 set of tracks shoulnt get a choice
22:14:09  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and one should
22:14:18  <PublicServer> <Sietse> yep, Chris explains what I wanted to explain xD
22:14:37  <PublicServer> <Techinica> should !to long be more like that or???
22:14:45  <PublicServer> <0DM> that lengths fine
22:14:47  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yes#
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22:14:53  <PublicServer> <0DM> you need to have one tile for the signal
22:15:20  <PublicServer> <0DM> also, hey chris
22:15:24  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> hi
22:16:05  <PublicServer> <0DM> also, its good if you fix desyncs, but dont go through impossible structures to fix it
22:16:15  <PublicServer> <0DM> in general it really doesnt matter that much
22:16:49  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> only at high speesa
22:16:53  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> speeds
22:17:12  <PublicServer> <Sietse> No info about that in the plan
22:17:12  <PublicServer> <0DM> high acceleration, very dense networks, and then loads of those desyncs
22:17:15  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but it is good practice for high capacity high speed networks
22:17:33  <PublicServer> <0DM> yup, but its sometimes taken to far;)
22:18:14  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> are we going to use hte BBD LRC-3 loco?
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22:19:12  <PublicServer> <Techinica> whats the best way to fix the desync then??
22:19:21  <PublicServer> <0DM> seems good chris
22:19:24  <PublicServer> <Techinica> or is what I've done better already?
22:19:27  <PublicServer> <0DM> though i think well have to change at some point
22:19:45  <PublicServer> <0DM> you put in a slow corner, which is technically worse:p
22:20:09  <PublicServer> <Techinica> it shouldn't slow a 3 tile train...
22:21:09  <PublicServer> <Sietse> you could make the complete path sync
22:21:28  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no you can as you trun 90 degrees
22:21:33  <PublicServer> <Sietse> by extending the double lane till next bridge (not really elegant)
22:21:37  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but as we said it doesnt matter at these speeds
22:21:50  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> Sietse: you cant
22:21:53  <PublicServer> <Sietse> maybe we convert to maglev?
22:21:56  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> as you trun 90
22:22:03  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> we cant with this train set
22:22:09  <PublicServer> <Sietse> ok
22:22:34  <PublicServer> <Sietse> no cross needed so no 90 deg turn imo
22:22:38  <PublicServer> <0DM> technica, a corner length of 2 does slow a 3 stile train;)
22:23:21  <PublicServer> <Sietse> can I try a fix tech?
22:25:02  <PublicServer> <0DM> ugh i should really build something
22:25:06  <PublicServer> <0DM> but ive been out for so long
22:25:14  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i have train 3
22:25:54  <PublicServer> <Sietse> just go for it :)
22:26:08  <PublicServer> <HamSandwich> or come help me with BBH05
22:26:18  <PublicServer> <0DM> now thats a creative nick
22:26:20  <PublicServer> <HamSandwich> I really don't want to kill lunnwell
22:26:27  <PublicServer> <HamSandwich> oh, thanks
22:26:54  <PublicServer> <0DM> is there also cheese?
22:26:57  <PublicServer> <HamSandwich> I'm trying to route the hub without killing lunnwell
22:27:09  <PublicServer> <HamSandwich> an yes, along with lettuce
22:27:15  <PublicServer> <HamSandwich> but no tomoatoes
22:27:53  <PublicServer> <0DM> tomato tomato?
22:33:46  <PublicServer> <0DM> ill go for sleep instead^^ gl!
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22:44:17  <Chris_Booth> i will be back to finish BBH 08 tomoz
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23:25:23  <Intexon> !password
23:25:23  <PublicServer> Intexon: icings
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23:33:06  <csuke> !password
23:33:06  <PublicServer> csuke: icings
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23:36:23  <HamSandwich> !password
23:36:23  <PublicServer> HamSandwich: rhymes
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23:47:15  <csuke> client list window bux has been fixed - should be in next nightly
23:48:32  <csuke> !players
23:48:34  <PublicServer> csuke: Client 110 (Orange) is csuke, in company 1 (Cafingway Transport)
23:48:34  <PublicServer> csuke: Client 56 (Orange) is Sietse, in company 1 (Cafingway Transport)
23:48:34  <PublicServer> csuke: Client 100 (Orange) is Techinica, in company 1 (Cafingway Transport)
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