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00:07:18 *** Combuster has quit IRC 00:07:23 *** Combuster has joined #openttdcoop 00:07:23 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Combuster 00:09:49 <sparr> a RoRo station with a parallel "overflow" track. the overflow track has multiple backwards path signals on it, as PF penalties. incoming trains will stop in the station if it's empty, or go around if there's already a train in the station. 00:09:55 <sparr> is this a behavior that could be used in a SRNW? 00:10:21 <sam_ch> yep 00:10:34 <sparr> it would not be quite as efficient as using dummy trains, in terms of station rating and total resource throughput, but it would take a LOT less extra track and trains than the SRNW we have been building lately 00:10:57 <sam_ch> uh don't ask too much ;) 00:11:06 <sam_ch> just assimilated the srnw concept 00:11:32 <sparr> my idea is FAR simpler than the srnw that we are using here 00:12:08 <sam_ch> i'm not sure the simplest idea is what is seek here :p 00:13:09 <PublicServer> <Roysvork> awww my trees are dead 00:13:25 <PublicServer> <Sam> rofl 00:13:30 <PublicServer> <Roysvork> maybe I can make a moat 00:16:10 <PublicServer> <Roysvork> ahhh that chris sawyer was a clever fellow 00:16:28 <PublicServer> <Sam> yep grass is growing 00:16:46 <PublicServer> <Roysvork> will it spread though 00:17:11 *** ^Spike^ has quit IRC 00:19:37 <PublicServer> <Roysvork> arr lame, only the sqaures touching the water go green 00:19:55 <PublicServer> <Sam> maybe with time... 00:20:09 <PublicServer> <Sam> i don't play tropical often 00:20:14 <PublicServer> <Roysvork> orrrr I can make little islands 00:20:30 <PublicServer> <Roysvork> ahhh that doesn't work either, I give up 00:21:33 *** Polygon has quit IRC 00:27:28 <PublicServer> <Roysvork> right I think I'm gonna call it a night 00:27:44 <PublicServer> <Roysvork> check you guys tomorrow, albeit possibly briefly 00:27:52 <PublicServer> *** Roysvork has left the game (leaving) 00:27:53 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 00:32:52 <PublicServer> *** Thraxian joined the game 00:35:03 <PublicServer> *** Thraxian has left the game (connection lost) 00:35:13 <De_Ghosty> nope 00:35:20 <De_Ghosty> desert doen't turn green unless touch water 00:35:39 <De_Ghosty> u can't change it 00:35:44 <sam_ch> and if you make a moat in the desert ? 00:35:49 <sam_ch> will grass spread ? 00:36:54 *** roysvork has quit IRC 00:38:09 *** Progman has quit IRC 00:42:03 <sam_ch> nevermind, i re-read what you said... 00:43:43 <De_Ghosty> there is no way to change desert tile to anythig else 00:43:53 <De_Ghosty> is that more clear ? :) 00:44:11 <sam_ch> yep :) 00:44:16 <sam_ch> thanks for the explaination 00:46:38 <De_Ghosty> the only tile i seen changing is the snow one where u raise or lower the ground 00:56:29 *** algol has joined #openttdcoop 00:57:18 <algol> !help 00:57:18 <PublicServer> algol: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands 00:57:36 <algol> !password 00:57:36 <PublicServer> algol: legged 00:58:19 *** sparrL has quit IRC 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<PublicServer> *** Peter has left the game (leaving) 03:34:41 <PeterT> Good night 03:34:59 *** PeterT has quit IRC 03:55:57 *** [com]buster has joined #openttdcoop 03:55:57 *** Combuster has quit IRC 03:55:57 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o [com]buster 03:56:00 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 04:20:38 *** Webster has joined #openttdcoop 04:20:38 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Webster 04:22:43 *** KenjiE20|LT has quit IRC 04:23:31 *** Zulan has quit IRC 04:27:45 <Lapsus> !password 04:27:45 <PublicServer> Lapsus: felted 04:28:12 <PublicServer> *** Lapsus joined the game 04:34:27 <PublicServer> *** Lapsus has left the game (leaving) 04:42:44 *** algol has quit IRC 04:59:25 *** [com]buster has joined #openttdcoop 04:59:25 *** Combuster has quit IRC 04:59:25 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o [com]buster 04:59:28 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 05:20:57 *** Combuster has quit IRC 05:21:11 *** Combuster has joined #openttdcoop 05:21:11 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Combuster 05:42:58 *** 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Mark, a spectator 16:26:00 <PublicServer> Lillefix1: Client 346 is slas, a spectator 16:26:00 <PublicServer> Lillefix1: Client 342 is Hyppy, a spectator 16:26:00 <PublicServer> Lillefix1: Client 348 (Orange) is Techinica, in company 1 (New Safingley Transport) 16:28:06 <PublicServer> *** Mark has left the game (leaving) 16:33:43 *** persil has joined #openttdcoop 16:34:19 <PublicServer> *** persil joined the game 16:35:03 *** Lillefix1 has left #openttdcoop 16:37:46 <PublicServer> *** slas has left the game (leaving) 16:41:36 *** [com]buster has joined #openttdcoop 16:41:36 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o [com]buster 16:41:36 *** Combuster has quit IRC 16:41:39 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 16:45:41 *** DarkED has joined #openttdcoop 16:47:05 <PublicServer> *** Techinica has left the game (leaving) 16:48:01 <Osai> hi all 16:52:55 *** Techinica has quit IRC 16:55:16 *** Techinica has joined #openttdcoop 16:56:34 <Techinica> !players 16:56:35 <PublicServer> Techinica: Client 350 is Sietse, a spectator 16:56:35 <PublicServer> Techinica: Client 354 is persil, a spectator 16:56:35 <PublicServer> Techinica: Client 342 is Hyppy, a spectator 17:03:02 *** Combuster has quit IRC 17:03:24 *** Combuster has joined #openttdcoop 17:03:24 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Combuster 17:10:13 *** Zuu has quit IRC 17:20:02 *** V453000 has quit IRC 17:23:17 *** cifvts_ has quit IRC 17:24:23 *** Cif has joined #openttdcoop 17:25:35 <PublicServer> *** persil has left the game (connection lost) 17:26:04 *** [com]buster has joined #openttdcoop 17:26:04 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o [com]buster 17:26:15 <PublicServer> *** persil joined the game 17:26:34 *** Combuster has quit IRC 17:26:34 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 17:26:49 <PublicServer> *** persil has left the game (connection lost) 17:27:00 <jondisti> !password 17:27:00 <PublicServer> jondisti: misers 17:27:06 <PublicServer> *** jondisti joined the game 17:28:34 *** Cif has quit IRC 17:30:02 <PublicServer> *** persil joined the game 17:30:05 *** Cif has joined #openttdcoop 17:32:09 <PublicServer> *** persil has left the game (connection lost) 17:34:07 <Zarenor> !players 17:34:08 <PublicServer> Zarenor: Client 350 is Sietse, a spectator 17:34:08 <PublicServer> Zarenor: Client 357 (Orange) is jondisti, in company 1 (New Safingley Transport) 17:34:08 <PublicServer> Zarenor: Client 342 is Hyppy, a spectator 17:35:04 *** Combuster has quit IRC 17:35:31 *** Combuster has joined #openttdcoop 17:35:31 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Combuster 17:35:33 *** sam_ch has joined #openttdcoop 17:37:17 <PublicServer> *** slas joined the game 17:40:31 *** Madis has quit IRC 17:40:46 <Zarenor> !password 17:40:46 <PublicServer> Zarenor: corral 17:41:10 <PublicServer> *** ZarenorDarkstalker joined the game 17:41:39 <sparr> !password 17:41:39 <PublicServer> sparr: corral 17:41:48 <PublicServer> *** sparr joined the game 17:42:10 <PublicServer> *** jondisti has joined spectators 17:42:58 <PublicServer> *** lomba joined the game 17:43:24 <Lapsus> !players 17:43:25 <PublicServer> Lapsus: Client 350 is Sietse, a spectator 17:43:26 <PublicServer> Lapsus: Client 361 is slas, a spectator 17:43:26 <PublicServer> Lapsus: Client 357 is jondisti, a spectator 17:43:26 <PublicServer> Lapsus: Client 342 is Hyppy, a spectator 17:43:26 <PublicServer> Lapsus: Client 363 (Orange) is ZarenorDarkstalker, in company 1 (New Safingley Transport) 17:43:27 <PublicServer> Lapsus: Client 365 (Orange) is sparr, in company 1 (New Safingley Transport) 17:43:27 <PublicServer> Lapsus: Client 367 is lomba, a spectator 17:43:46 <PublicServer> *** sparr has left the game (leaving) 17:43:46 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 17:44:11 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> How many of you are actually here? XD 17:44:41 <Lapsus> I was going to go watch too, lol 17:44:56 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> lol... 6 spectators 17:45:39 <sam_ch> !password 17:45:39 <PublicServer> sam_ch: clammy 17:45:54 <PublicServer> *** Sam joined the game 17:46:06 <PublicServer> *** lomba has left the game (leaving) 17:46:17 <PublicServer> *** Sam has joined company #1 17:46:25 <PublicServer> <Sam> hello 17:46:35 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> Hey 17:50:48 *** bartavelle is now known as bartaway 17:56:58 *** Combuster has quit IRC 17:57:19 *** Combuster has joined #openttdcoop 17:57:19 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Combuster 18:01:13 *** mixrin has quit IRC 18:01:20 *** lomba has quit IRC 18:02:16 *** Zulan has joined #openttdcoop 18:11:20 <PublicServer> <Sam> are you building ? 18:11:29 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> I am, you ned to go? 18:11:38 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> *need 18:11:46 <PublicServer> <Sam> yep but i can leave the pc 18:11:47 <PublicServer> *** jondisti has joined company #1 18:11:51 <PublicServer> <jondisti> no need to 18:11:56 <PublicServer> <Sam> ah it's ok now 18:12:00 <PublicServer> <Sam> cya ;) 18:12:16 <PublicServer> *** Sam has left the game (leaving) 18:12:22 <Osai> !playercount 18:12:22 <PublicServer> Osai: Number of players: 5 18:19:55 *** Zuu has joined #openttdcoop 18:24:57 *** persil has quit IRC 18:28:21 *** V453000 has joined #openttdcoop 18:28:29 <V453000> !players 18:28:31 <PublicServer> V453000: Client 350 is Sietse, a spectator 18:28:31 <PublicServer> V453000: Client 361 is slas, a spectator 18:28:31 <PublicServer> V453000: Client 357 (Orange) is jondisti, in company 1 (New Safingley Transport) 18:28:31 <PublicServer> V453000: Client 342 is Hyppy, a spectator 18:28:31 <PublicServer> V453000: Client 363 (Orange) is ZarenorDarkstalker, in company 1 (New Safingley Transport) 18:29:21 <PublicServer> *** Combuster joined the game 18:32:16 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> I'll BBL, build another SLH then.. 18:32:21 <PublicServer> *** ZarenorDarkstalker has left the game (leaving) 18:32:37 <V453000> !password 18:32:37 <PublicServer> V453000: gritty 18:32:49 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 18:32:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 18:32:55 <tkjacobsen> !password 18:32:55 <PublicServer> tkjacobsen: gritty 18:33:05 <PublicServer> *** tkjacobsen joined the game 18:33:06 *** Hribek has joined #openttdcoop 18:35:42 *** Madis has joined #openttdcoop 18:35:43 *** lomba has joined #openttdcoop 18:35:55 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has joined spectators 18:37:33 <PublicServer> *** Hribek joined the game 18:41:22 *** bimbo has joined #openttdcoop 18:46:16 <bimbo> !password 18:46:16 <PublicServer> bimbo: busted 18:46:22 <PublicServer> *** bimbo joined the game 18:46:33 <PublicServer> *** lomba joined the game 18:51:17 *** Mks has joined #openttdcoop 18:52:40 <PublicServer> *** Hribek has left the game (leaving) 18:55:49 <PublicServer> *** lomba has left the game (leaving) 18:56:03 *** Guest769 has quit IRC 18:58:05 <PublicServer> *** Combuster has left the game (connection lost) 18:58:06 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 18:58:32 <PublicServer> *** bimbo has left the game (leaving) 18:58:46 <PublicServer> *** Combuster joined the game 19:11:24 *** kratt has joined #openttdcoop 19:11:50 *** kratt has quit IRC 19:13:45 *** csuke has joined #openttdcoop 19:13:56 <csuke> !password 19:13:56 <PublicServer> csuke: cocoon 19:14:13 <PublicServer> *** csuke joined the game 19:15:16 <PublicServer> <csuke> hi 19:15:30 <PublicServer> <csuke> where's any(every)one building? 19:15:45 <PublicServer> <Combuster> not building ATM 19:15:52 <PublicServer> <csuke> any reason why i cant then? :) 19:16:21 <PublicServer> <Combuster> guess not 19:16:23 <PublicServer> <Combuster> btw 19:16:36 <PublicServer> <csuke> yup? 19:16:41 <PublicServer> <Combuster> you can just pick something that needs to be done, put a WIP sign on it, then have fun 19:16:49 <PublicServer> <csuke> thought so :) 19:17:57 <PublicServer> <csuke> are we double bridging sidelines? 19:18:34 <PublicServer> *** Combuster has left the game (connection lost) 19:19:43 <PublicServer> *** Combuster joined the game 19:20:00 <PublicServer> <csuke> Combuster, sorry not sure if you got my last message 19:20:08 <PublicServer> <csuke> are we double bridging sidelines? 19:21:06 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 19:24:53 <sparr> the MLs are not SRNW, right? 19:25:01 <PublicServer> <Combuster> mlS ARE sml 19:25:13 <PublicServer> <Combuster> dAMN cAPS lOCK :/ 19:25:33 <sparr> ok, better question... what should orders for the long distance trains look like on this map? 19:25:54 <PublicServer> <Combuster> go non-stop via WP (...) in 19:26:00 <PublicServer> <Combuster> go via WP (...) out 19:26:20 <sparr> why two orders? 19:33:21 *** mixrin has joined #openttdcoop 19:37:10 <Mark> !password 19:37:10 <PublicServer> Mark: rammed 19:37:23 <PublicServer> *** Mark joined the game 19:37:24 <PublicServer> <Mark> evening 19:37:29 <PublicServer> <csuke> hi Mark 19:37:30 <PublicServer> <Combuster> ev'ning mark 19:37:37 <PublicServer> <csuke> Mark, are we double bridging SL's? 19:37:54 <PublicServer> <Mark> of course, otherwise we might aswell make it single lane 19:38:14 <PublicServer> <csuke> any idea who built ! sideline crossings ? 19:38:15 <PublicServer> <Mark> sidelines on opposite ends of the loop should be inteweaving, so to say 19:38:22 <PublicServer> <Mark> no idea 19:38:46 <PublicServer> <Mark> that means either F01 or M04 is off 19:39:12 <PublicServer> <csuke> ? 19:39:20 <PublicServer> <Combuster> F01 is not connected... 19:39:36 <PublicServer> <Mark> to what? 19:40:01 <Combuster> <Mark> that means either F01 or M04 is off 19:40:05 <PublicServer> <csuke> it is indeed 19:40:29 <PublicServer> <Mark> yes, because they are not inteweaving 19:40:30 <PublicServer> <csuke> and since the M's are all pretty much built i assume F is out 19:40:31 <PublicServer> <Mark> inter* 19:40:58 <PublicServer> <Combuster> what's with interweaving 19:41:08 <PublicServer> <Mark> look closely at the plan 19:41:09 <PublicServer> <Combuster> it reads SRNW 19:41:26 <PublicServer> <Combuster> ah 19:41:29 <PublicServer> <Mark> the sidelines from both directions should be next to each other 19:41:30 <PublicServer> <Combuster> oh great :( 19:41:59 <Zarenor> Mark: I'd pointed it out earlier, and based on plan, all of M is off, but someone misunderstood me.. I figure fruit will have to be built at 100/200/300... 19:42:18 <PublicServer> <Mark> i guess 19:42:34 <Zarenor> I'm just playing SC4 for a while after building a SLH, I'll be back in soon 19:42:34 <PublicServer> <Mark> well i'm off 19:42:38 <PublicServer> *** Mark has left the game (leaving) 19:42:46 <Mark> 3k owns 4 :P 19:43:17 <Combuster> 3k is buggy 19:43:25 <Combuster> really annoying 19:43:31 <Zarenor> both are buggy 19:43:35 <Zarenor> and annoying 19:43:45 <hylje> there's no truly good city sim 19:43:48 <Zarenor> but sometimes I just want to try to mass-populate something 19:43:53 <hylje> simcities are good but ancient 19:43:54 <Zarenor> Not anymore... 19:44:08 <hylje> citiesxl tries to sell subscriptions 19:44:38 <Combuster> SC2k is better on playability 19:44:48 <Combuster> havent tried 4 though :/ 19:46:35 <Zarenor> I want a regional SC game like SC 4, that doesn't eat so much memory, and has the transit system depth of openttd... or better 19:46:40 <Hyppy> SC4 is amazing, for what it is, but the massive amount of bugs killed it 19:46:46 <Zarenor> So, I want too much and wind up bored 19:49:53 <hylje> sc4's faults are in its ancient legacy 19:50:00 <hylje> it's still the same game that was Sim City 19:50:36 <Hyppy> This is still the same game that was Transport Tycoon, for the most part 19:53:11 <hylje> yeah 19:53:20 <hylje> but a lot of things have been swapped out wholesale 19:55:09 *** Madis has quit IRC 19:55:54 <Zarenor> and TTs gameplay wasn't flawed outright 19:56:25 *** roysvork has joined #openttdcoop 19:56:29 <roysvork> !password 19:56:29 <PublicServer> roysvork: enigma 19:56:52 <Zarenor> Simcity was always the same sort of sandbox, but the transport networks never gained depth, even though, just like in a real city, they *are* the backbone 19:56:59 <PublicServer> *** Roysvork joined the game 19:57:23 <PublicServer> <Roysvork> sup dawgs 19:58:02 <PublicServer> <csuke> hi 19:58:03 <PublicServer> *** ZarenorDarkstalker joined the game 19:59:01 <PublicServer> <Roysvork> mentalness starting to grow I see :) 19:59:09 <PublicServer> *** Combuster has left the game (connection lost) 19:59:50 <PublicServer> *** Combuster joined the game 20:09:24 <sparr> so, my no-logic self regulating network needs work 20:09:36 <sparr> going to try it with two overflow lanes per station in my next long game elsewhere 20:09:43 <PublicServer> <Roysvork> ahhh thats you down at pruntburg is it? 20:09:49 <sparr> no, not me 20:09:56 <PublicServer> <Roysvork> oh, who's that then? 20:10:21 <PublicServer> <csuke> where's pruntburg? 20:10:28 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> F 01 20:10:42 <PublicServer> <csuke> not me 20:10:54 <sparr> I want to get this idea well-tested before I put it in an ottdcoop game 20:12:00 <PublicServer> <Roysvork> You guys got snow where you are? 20:12:09 <PublicServer> <csuke> hopefully soon 20:12:20 <PublicServer> <csuke> due about 1.5 feet 20:12:21 <PublicServer> <Roysvork> I drove my nice car into a kerb earlier while trying to do handbrake slides :< 20:12:22 <PublicServer> <Combuster> For the past three weeks 20:13:04 <PublicServer> <csuke> jsut looked out curtains and we have snow! :D 20:13:11 <PublicServer> <Roysvork> haha 20:13:26 <PublicServer> <Roysvork> if you're between swindon and london in the uk it should get pretty mental later 20:13:34 <PublicServer> <Roysvork> probably east of london too no doubt 20:13:51 <PublicServer> <csuke> im north west london 20:14:00 <PublicServer> <csuke> swindon is gonna be buried 20:14:10 <PublicServer> <Roysvork> I'm in Reading 20:14:24 <PublicServer> <Roysvork> and it's a damn shame I live only a mile from work so I can't blag it off :< 20:14:34 <PublicServer> <csuke> im 15 miles and i cant blag it lol 20:14:45 <PublicServer> <csuke> if nothing is working i will walk 20:14:51 <PublicServer> <csuke> and my boss knows i will 20:15:08 <PublicServer> <csuke> so he doesnt even have to ask if im coming in lol 20:15:34 <roysvork> lol you crazy mo fo 20:15:40 <PublicServer> <csuke> indeed 20:15:54 <PublicServer> <csuke> if it starts getting worse before i am half way i will turn round tho lol 20:15:59 <PublicServer> <Roysvork> Whats more though, even if I did blag it, I'd be expected to work from home over the VPN 20:16:27 <PublicServer> <Roysvork> such is the life of a programmer 20:16:40 <PublicServer> <csuke> i could easily work from home 20:17:02 <PublicServer> <csuke> i would spend the entire day watching movies and playing ttd and no-one would know :) 20:17:11 <PublicServer> <Roysvork> heh heh heh 20:17:58 <PublicServer> <Combuster> you're ruining my stereotype image of britons :( 20:18:21 <PublicServer> <Roysvork> lol, what's that? 20:18:57 <PublicServer> <Combuster> working hard or drowning in the Thames 20:19:05 <PublicServer> <Roysvork> interesting : ) 20:19:18 <PublicServer> <Roysvork> where are you from then? 20:19:35 <PublicServer> *** Combuster has left the game (connection lost) 20:19:58 <Paul2> no snow in east london yet... 20:20:05 <PublicServer> *** Combuster joined the game 20:20:15 <PublicServer> <Combuster> just across the sea, holland 20:20:20 <Paul2> and I only live 3 miles from work. so will be walking tomorrow 20:20:25 <roysvork> it's like we've got our own weather network 20:20:29 <Paul2> line manager lives in reading. lets hope he gets snowed in ;) 20:20:36 <PublicServer> <Roysvork> ahhh, I went there in November 20:21:00 <PublicServer> <Roysvork> went to amsterdam though 20:21:12 <PublicServer> <Roysvork> so probably not so indicative of the rest of your country : ) 20:21:26 <PublicServer> <Combuster> only indicative of stereotypes 20:21:55 <PublicServer> <Roysvork> This dude was talking to us in a coffee shop, and he kept changing the subject randomly every 10 seconds or so 20:22:07 <PublicServer> <Roysvork> gambling, to auctioning watches, to international relations... and so on 20:22:09 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop 20:22:09 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 20:22:24 <PublicServer> <Combuster> the coffee shop 20:22:31 <PublicServer> <Combuster> why doesn't that surprise me... 20:22:40 <PublicServer> <Roysvork> I know what you're thinking, but I swear it wasn't the smoke, it was just him lol 20:24:42 <PublicServer> <Combuster> you sure he didn't get so used to it that you can barely tell the difference? :) 20:25:09 <PublicServer> <Roysvork> thats very possible 20:25:38 <PublicServer> <Roysvork> I'm still trying to work out whats being tested up here near sardinghead heights 20:25:49 <PublicServer> <csuke> why not just go round? 20:30:18 *** Hribek has quit IRC 20:31:25 <PublicServer> <csuke> yeah someone else gonna have to do that junction lol 20:31:40 *** persil has joined #openttdcoop 20:32:09 <sparr> so each drop has four groups of trains 20:32:15 <sparr> one group being one set of shared orders, right? 20:33:24 <PublicServer> *** persil joined the game 20:34:39 <PublicServer> *** lomba joined the game 20:34:54 <PublicServer> <csuke> why is it wrong? 20:35:10 <PublicServer> <csuke> the plan says LLL3RRR 20:36:54 <PublicServer> <csuke> i did not look at the other end of the SL lol 20:39:35 <PublicServer> <Combuster> lol 20:42:35 <PublicServer> *** Roysvork has left the game (leaving) 20:42:48 <roysvork> just closing this for a while to free up all my cpu 20:43:08 <roysvork> got some video converting to do 20:44:29 <PublicServer> *** Spike joined the game 20:48:17 *** Progman has quit IRC 20:56:26 <PublicServer> *** persil has left the game (leaving) 20:59:26 <Hyppy> mind if I jump in and try a few of the SL crossings? 20:59:29 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop 20:59:33 *** persil has quit IRC 21:02:19 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> Hyppy: If you want to try something, go for it 21:02:25 <PublicServer> *** Hyppy has joined company #1 21:04:25 <PublicServer> *** Combuster has left the game (connection lost) 21:06:54 *** [com]buster has joined #openttdcoop 21:06:55 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o [com]buster 21:07:30 *** roysvork has quit IRC 21:08:07 *** sparrL has quit IRC 21:09:15 *** sparrL has joined #openttdcoop 21:11:23 <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (leaving) 21:11:23 *** Combuster has quit IRC 21:11:23 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 21:13:39 <Hyppy> !tunnel 21:13:39 <PublicServer> Hyppy: !tunnel <trainlength> <gap>: Returns amount of tunnels/bridges needed. Formula: (<gap>+<trainlength>-2)/(<trainlength>+2) 21:13:57 <Hyppy> !tunnel 5 3 21:13:57 <PublicServer> Hyppy: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 5 and gap 3. 21:19:33 <PublicServer> *** ZarenorDarkstalker has left the game (connection lost) 21:19:50 <Lapsus> !tunnel 14 6 21:19:50 <PublicServer> Lapsus: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 14 and gap 6. 21:19:51 <Zarenor> !password 21:19:51 <PublicServer> Zarenor: wirier 21:20:21 <PublicServer> *** ZarenorDarkstalker joined the game 21:22:50 *** DarkED has quit IRC 21:23:51 <PublicServer> <Hyppy> Can someone take a look at where M3 crosses C1, I'm not sure if I integrated the depot return correctly 21:24:03 *** AdTheRat has joined #openttdcoop 21:24:26 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> That should be fine 21:24:37 <PublicServer> <Hyppy> thanks :-) 21:24:42 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> if someone else doesn't like it, they'll change it 21:25:04 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> but it looks like one of the ways I'dve done it 21:25:42 <Techinica> !password 21:25:42 <PublicServer> Techinica: wirier 21:25:55 <PublicServer> *** Techinica joined the game 21:27:45 *** Polygon has joined #openttdcoop 21:28:24 <PublicServer> *** tkjacobsen has left the game (leaving) 21:29:27 <PublicServer> <Techinica> zomg 21:29:34 <PublicServer> <csuke> ? 21:29:59 <PublicServer> <Hyppy> Wait til its finished :-P 21:30:03 <PublicServer> <Hyppy> then it won't 21:30:05 <PublicServer> <Techinica> :P 21:30:15 <PublicServer> <Techinica> I've got bridges on transparent... 21:30:23 <PublicServer> <Techinica> so just the bridge-heads there look like one. 21:30:56 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> one what? 21:31:01 <PublicServer> <Techinica> a swastika 21:31:08 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> ah 21:31:22 <PublicServer> <csuke> it does 21:31:23 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> I see 21:31:24 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> XD 21:31:26 <PublicServer> <csuke> turn it round 21:32:39 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> Damn hitler for making peace symbols something we fear... 21:32:49 <PublicServer> <Techinica> Doesn't bother me at all... 21:32:53 <PublicServer> <csuke> if you do it opposite it will be fine 21:32:58 <PublicServer> <Techinica> Just don't want it to bother anyone else 21:33:17 <PublicServer> <Techinica> Guess its up to Hyppy seeing as though he's building 21:33:57 <PublicServer> <Hyppy> Better now? 21:34:00 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> 'm not sure who'd be around here that'd take offense at it.... but it's always a possibility... Like I said.. damn hitler 21:34:12 <PublicServer> <csuke> turn on invisible bridges and zoom all the way out 21:34:18 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> without transparent bridges, it's fine 21:34:24 <PublicServer> <Techinica> thats how I seen it csuke 21:34:25 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> with them... 21:34:25 <PublicServer> <Hyppy> Oh... boy 21:34:34 <PublicServer> <Hyppy> I can fix that 21:35:12 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> anyway 21:35:24 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> "m gona work on SLH F... 02? 21:35:42 <Hyppy> !tunnel 5 8 21:35:42 <PublicServer> Hyppy: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 5 and gap 8. 21:35:44 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> trying o see where we mismeasured 21:35:47 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> to 21:36:09 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> because as it's set up now 21:36:20 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> fruit only gets 3 SLs 21:36:30 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> and all are supposed to have 4 21:40:05 <Intexon> !password 21:40:06 <Webster> Latest update from openttd: OpenTTD 1.0.0-beta2 <http://www.openttd.org/en/news/114> 21:40:06 <PublicServer> Intexon: hellos 21:40:21 <PublicServer> *** Intexon joined the game 21:43:57 <PublicServer> <Hyppy> Okay, it might be non-offensive to everyone now ;-) 21:44:17 <PublicServer> <Techinica> yeah, that ought to work :P 21:45:03 *** Seppel has quit IRC 21:48:10 <PublicServer> *** Intexon has left the game (leaving) 21:50:25 <PublicServer> <Hyppy> Fruit seems to be missing an entire SL at 200, looks like 21:50:42 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> fuit is missing three SLs 21:50:46 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> *Fruit 21:50:59 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> and I think ruber is missig all 4 21:51:02 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> *rubber 21:51:25 <PublicServer> <Hyppy> Oh... yeah, Mark was talking about that. The Maize should have been 100, 200, etc, but it was mistakenly done on 50, 150... 21:51:47 <PublicServer> <Hyppy> Therefore, we might have to squeeze fruit 1 on 0 21:51:55 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> Rght 21:52:04 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> which is alul clseto the Ruber ML 21:52:35 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> Excuse the dying kboard batteries 21:52:50 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> *close to the Rubber ML 21:52:54 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> and the same for rubber 21:53:05 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> it might have to run awful close to the Maize ML 21:54:47 *** Intexon has quit IRC 21:55:11 <PublicServer> <Hyppy> Yeah the entire SL will be fairly close 21:56:59 *** aapie has joined #openttdcoop 21:57:17 <aapie> !password 21:57:17 <PublicServer> aapie: maggot 21:57:28 <PublicServer> *** bimbo joined the game 21:58:04 <PublicServer> *** Hyppy has left the game (leaving) 21:58:23 <PublicServer> <Techinica> so why not just fill in the water instead of going around that lake.... 21:58:30 <Hyppy> thanks for the time, guys! 21:58:32 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> where at? 21:58:36 *** Hyppy has quit IRC 21:58:47 <PublicServer> <Techinica> the one with the sign complaining about the detour' 21:59:47 <PublicServer> <csuke> we are not allowed to fill in lakes for sidelines 22:03:16 <PublicServer> *** bimbo has left the game (leaving) 22:03:42 *** aapie has quit IRC 22:04:16 <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> 'm out for now again... 22:04:25 <PublicServer> *** ZarenorDarkstalker has left the game (leaving) 22:08:31 *** ODM has quit IRC 22:08:31 *** Combuster has quit IRC 22:08:39 *** pugi has quit IRC 22:08:56 <PublicServer> <csuke> ima outta here 22:08:58 <PublicServer> <csuke> nite nite 22:09:04 *** Combuster has joined #openttdcoop 22:09:04 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Combuster 22:09:10 <PublicServer> *** csuke has left the game (leaving) 22:09:12 *** csuke has quit IRC 22:11:29 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 22:21:21 <PublicServer> *** lomba has left the game (leaving) 22:21:29 *** lomba has quit IRC 22:25:09 <PublicServer> *** Techinica has left the game (leaving) 22:25:10 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 22:25:13 *** Techinica has quit IRC 22:26:43 <PublicServer> *** slas has left the game (leaving) 22:30:44 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 22:34:08 *** Hyppy has joined #openttdcoop 22:35:35 <Hyppy> !password 22:35:35 <PublicServer> Hyppy: welder 22:35:54 <PublicServer> *** Hyppy joined the game 22:41:29 <Hyppy> !tunnel 5 15 22:41:29 <PublicServer> Hyppy: You need 3 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 5 and gap 15. 22:43:35 <Hyppy> !tunnel 5 21 22:43:35 <PublicServer> Hyppy: You need 4 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 5 and gap 21. 22:51:35 <Hyppy> !tunnel 5 17 22:51:35 <PublicServer> Hyppy: You need 3 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 5 and gap 17. 22:51:52 *** PeterT has quit IRC 22:52:02 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop 22:52:14 <hylje> @tunnels 5 22:52:14 <Webster> For trainlength 5: < 6 needs 2, 7 - 13 needs 3, 14 - 20 needs 4. 22:52:16 *** mixrin has quit IRC 22:53:16 *** PeterT_ has joined #openttdcoop 22:53:20 <Zarenor> Webster is.. wrong... 22:53:41 *** PeterT has quit IRC 22:53:46 <Zarenor> or, at least, according to the calculation we've used for the last long while 22:54:09 *** PeterT_ is now known as PeterT 22:54:11 <hylje> it needs to be fixed then 22:54:25 <Zarenor> Should be for TL 5 1-12 = 2 22:54:31 <hylje> it's much less unwieldy than finding the corner cases manually 22:54:36 <Zarenor> !tunnels 13 22:54:36 <PublicServer> Zarenor: !tunnels <trainlength> <gap>: Returns amount of tunnels/bridges needed. Formula: (<gap>+<trainlength>-2)/(<trainlength>+2) 22:54:47 <Zarenor> !tunnels 5 13 22:54:47 <PublicServer> Zarenor: You need 3 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 5 and gap 13. 22:54:53 <Zarenor> !tunnels 5 21 22:54:53 <PublicServer> Zarenor: You need 4 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 5 and gap 21. 22:54:55 <KenjiE20> it's a mathematical reversal of !tunnel, but like you say, it doesn't always work right 22:54:58 <Zarenor> !tunnels 5 20 22:54:58 <PublicServer> Zarenor: You need 4 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 5 and gap 20. 22:55:04 <Zarenor> !tunnels 5 17 22:55:04 <PublicServer> Zarenor: You need 3 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 5 and gap 17. 22:55:11 <Zarenor> !tunnels 5 18 22:55:11 <PublicServer> Zarenor: You need 3 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 5 and gap 18. 22:55:13 <KenjiE20> Zarenor: /quert 22:55:17 <KenjiE20> query* 22:55:24 <gleeb> ^ 22:55:29 <Zarenor> I was about to apologize and switch :P 22:55:39 <Zarenor> 'M sorry 22:55:55 <KenjiE20> I'll find my workings I scribbled down to reverse it 22:56:21 <KenjiE20> in amongst the 5 pages of math I've used for various webster things 22:56:41 *** bimbo has quit IRC 22:57:10 <KenjiE20> hmmm that 5 pages seem s to be clcalc actually :/ 22:57:11 <V453000> hi :) 22:57:19 <V453000> !password 22:57:19 <PublicServer> V453000: helium 22:57:30 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 22:57:38 <KenjiE20> ah there it is 23:00:38 <PublicServer> <Hyppy> Well, I'm attempting to creatively cross a couple SLs with minimal TF, may need someone to check me :-) 23:01:37 <KenjiE20> ahhhh 23:01:44 <KenjiE20> I think I spotted my math error 23:02:05 <KenjiE20> duuuh, what was I thinking? 23:02:27 <KenjiE20> x(y+2) != x(y) + x(2) 23:02:33 <KenjiE20> stupid 23:03:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> where? 23:03:37 <Osai> !password 23:03:37 <PublicServer> Osai: detain 23:03:51 <Paul2> KenjiE20: yes it is.. 23:04:02 *** mixrin has joined #openttdcoop 23:04:06 <PublicServer> *** 0sai joined the game 23:04:26 <PublicServer> <Hyppy> at !check please 23:04:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> should do fine 23:04:55 <KenjiE20> Paul2: right, so that's not it 23:05:20 <Paul2> not been following chat...whats up? 23:05:22 <KenjiE20> been so many years since I did algebra 23:06:40 <PublicServer> *** 0sai has left the game (leaving) 23:06:58 <Zarenor> 1/x = y + 2? 23:08:11 <Xaroth> y = 1/x - 2 23:09:52 <KenjiE20> ah, figured out where it went wrong, I condensed the calcs wrong right at the end 23:11:52 *** slas_ has joined #openttdcoop 23:12:09 *** [com]buster has joined #openttdcoop 23:12:09 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o [com]buster 23:12:14 *** slas is now known as Guest859 23:12:14 *** slas_ is now known as slas 23:12:37 <PeterT> 0=1/x - 2 + y 23:13:10 *** Guest859 has quit IRC 23:13:26 <KenjiE20> hmm, I'm still getting different answers to !tunnels 23:14:03 <Xaroth> er, PeterT 23:14:06 <Xaroth> shouldn't it be -y? 23:14:07 <Zarenor> wrong form? 23:14:14 <Xaroth> take from one side, give to the other 23:14:26 <Xaroth> 0 = 1/x - 2 - y 23:14:26 <Zarenor> (y+x-2)/(x+2) 23:14:55 <KenjiE20> (g + tl - 2) / (tl + 2) = n 23:14:57 <KenjiE20> (g + tl - 2) = n(tl + 2) 23:14:59 <KenjiE20> g + tl - 2 = n(tl) + 2n 23:15:01 <KenjiE20> g = n(tl) + 2n - tl + 2 23:15:06 <KenjiE20> that's the reversal I have 23:15:30 <Paul2> looks right to me 23:15:46 <KenjiE20> yea, but giving different results 23:16:03 <KenjiE20> http://pastebin.com/d7c64f920 23:16:04 <Zarenor> shouldn't it be ... -2 23:16:15 <KenjiE20> no 23:16:15 <Zarenor> tl - 2 not tl + 2 23:16:20 <Zarenor> wait a secthen 23:16:25 <Xaroth> tl + 2 23:16:27 <KenjiE20> I've add 2 to both sides 23:16:54 <KenjiE20> line 3 to line 4 I have -tl and +2 on both side 23:17:01 <Xaroth> g for gap, tl for train length and n for? 23:17:10 <Zarenor> result 23:17:11 <KenjiE20> number of split needed 23:17:16 <Zarenor> number of tunnels needed 23:17:20 <KenjiE20> see the pastebin 23:17:36 <planetmaker> [00:14] <KenjiE20> (g + tl - 2) / (tl + 2) = n <-- why is it -2 in the de-nominator? 23:17:43 *** Fuco has quit IRC 23:18:00 <KenjiE20> !tunnels 23:18:00 <PublicServer> KenjiE20: !tunnels <trainlength> <gap>: Returns amount of tunnels/bridges needed. Formula: (<gap>+<trainlength>-2)/(<trainlength>+2) 23:18:03 <KenjiE20> ^ pm 23:18:08 *** Combuster has quit IRC 23:18:08 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 23:18:16 <planetmaker> yes, I know :-) 23:18:28 <planetmaker> but I don't understand why the -2 is there and not a +2 ;-) 23:18:45 <KenjiE20> ask whoever it was who settled on that calc 23:18:52 <planetmaker> he 23:18:54 <KenjiE20> I'm just reversing it 23:19:05 <planetmaker> to which var? 23:19:21 <planetmaker> gap? 23:19:25 <KenjiE20> to give gap, when given trainlength and number 23:19:33 <KenjiE20> number being fixed within the alias 23:19:40 <KenjiE20> and TL being an arguement 23:20:10 <KenjiE20> so @tunnels does about 6 calcs 23:20:11 <planetmaker> n = (g+t-2) / (t+2) <-> (t+2)n = g+t-2 <-> g = n(t+2)-t+2 23:21:05 <KenjiE20> yea, that's what I have, only n(t+2) compacted 23:21:06 <planetmaker> g = (n-1)t + 2(n+1) 23:21:15 <planetmaker> which is wrong 23:21:55 <planetmaker> there's no compacter form 23:22:16 <KenjiE20> there is once I factor in fixed Numbers, but meh 23:22:59 <KenjiE20> this working is giving better numbers that @tunnels does now 23:23:14 <planetmaker> what is "this" 23:23:19 <KenjiE20> I should add this to the plugin rather than the alias now anyway 23:23:40 <planetmaker> [00:15] <KenjiE20> g = n(tl) + 2n - tl + 2 <-- that? 23:23:45 <KenjiE20> the one I just got, where I'm compacting with fixed n properly 23:24:41 <planetmaker> you *could* write g = (n-1)(t+2)+4 23:24:55 <KenjiE20> # 23:24:57 <KenjiE20> Calc for Number 2 : 2tl + 4 - tl + 2 = 2tl - tl + 6 = g <-- 23:25:22 <planetmaker> uh... non symbolic calculations... :-( 23:25:41 <planetmaker> that's bound to give errors 23:25:54 <Xaroth> ((n-1)*(t+2))+4 23:26:02 <KenjiE20> that's not running, that's just me scribbling math 23:26:13 <planetmaker> yes. exactly there ^ ;-) 23:26:45 <planetmaker> computers rather have difficulty to do symbolic manipulations. Or you put a lot of $$ or thought in it. 23:27:13 <planetmaker> g = 1(t+2) + 4 for n=2 23:27:20 <planetmaker> g = t+6 for n=2 23:28:22 <KenjiE20> yea, that's what I had before I expanded it out again 23:28:33 <KenjiE20> since it's still giving weird ness 23:28:49 <planetmaker> then the initial formula is wrong. Honestly I don't understand it. 23:29:10 <planetmaker> But I understand sleep.... zzzzZZZZzzz 23:29:12 <KenjiE20> n=2 : tl+6 : n=3 : 2tl + 8 : n=4 : 3tl + 10 <-- are what I have 23:29:38 <planetmaker> should be ok 23:29:46 <planetmaker> t+2 added for each additional n 23:29:49 <KenjiE20> but for TL 5 that give 11, 18 and 25 23:29:59 <KenjiE20> which !tunnels doesn't 23:30:23 <planetmaker> !tunnels 5 23:30:23 <PublicServer> planetmaker: !tunnels <trainlength> <gap>: Returns amount of tunnels/bridges needed. Formula: (<gap>+<trainlength>-2)/(<trainlength>+2) 23:30:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> whats going on? 23:30:33 <planetmaker> !tunnels 5 7 23:30:33 <PublicServer> planetmaker: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 5 and gap 7. 23:30:40 <planetmaker> !tunnels 5 10 23:30:40 <PublicServer> planetmaker: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 5 and gap 10. 23:30:43 <planetmaker> !tunnels 5 11 23:30:43 <PublicServer> planetmaker: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 5 and gap 11. 23:30:46 <KenjiE20> !tunnels 5 20 23:30:46 <PublicServer> KenjiE20: You need 4 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 5 and gap 20. 23:30:48 <planetmaker> no? 23:30:52 <planetmaker> !tunnels 5 12 23:30:52 <PublicServer> planetmaker: You need 3 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 5 and gap 12. 23:30:57 <planetmaker> !tunnels 5 18 23:30:57 <PublicServer> <Hyppy> I broke webster? ;-) 23:30:57 <PublicServer> planetmaker: You need 3 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 5 and gap 18. 23:31:02 <planetmaker> !tunnels 5 19 23:31:02 <PublicServer> planetmaker: You need 4 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 5 and gap 19. 23:31:07 <planetmaker> !tunnels 5 25 23:31:07 <PublicServer> planetmaker: You need 4 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 5 and gap 25. 23:31:09 <planetmaker> !tunnels 5 26 23:31:10 <PublicServer> planetmaker: You need 5 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 5 and gap 26. 23:31:17 <planetmaker> seems to work as it should, KenjiE20 23:31:23 <KenjiE20> wait... yea 23:31:32 <KenjiE20> I blame the time 23:31:36 <KenjiE20> :P 23:31:40 <planetmaker> hehe. Sleep well, too! 23:31:51 <Zarenor> for 2 that gives 8, 12, and 16 23:31:57 <KenjiE20> pfft, well I have a calc now then 23:31:57 <Zarenor> .. anyway 23:31:58 <Zarenor> yeah 23:32:00 <KenjiE20> yay 23:32:00 <Zarenor> can't think 23:32:04 <Zarenor> off to dinner 23:32:11 <Zarenor> later guys 23:32:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> hyppy? 23:32:33 <KenjiE20> Hmmm if I make this a plugin I can probably add an optional 'target' number of tunnels option 23:32:33 <PublicServer> <Hyppy> no landbridges, eh? 23:32:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> what is !this? 23:32:56 <KenjiE20> so you get target +- 1 number thresholds 23:33:16 <PublicServer> <Hyppy> forgot to remove it, sorry 23:33:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> no 23:33:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> made there lots of bridges 23:33:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> all of them useless 23:33:43 <KenjiE20> i.e. @tunnels 5 will give gaps for 2,3&4, @tunnels 5 6 will give gaps for 5,6&7 23:33:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> it is the end of the SRNW SL 23:33:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> it goes just back 23:33:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> as it was 23:34:03 <PublicServer> <Hyppy> oh, I w 23:34:03 <KenjiE20> thoughts? 23:34:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> I will just correct it to the past state, right? 23:34:59 <PublicServer> <Hyppy> I apologize 23:34:59 *** Combuster has quit IRC 23:35:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> no problem 23:35:13 *** Combuster has joined #openttdcoop 23:35:13 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Combuster 23:35:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> I just want you to understand why it is wrong 23:35:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> so the mistake is not useless ;) 23:35:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> I will make use of it and lenghten the SL at least 23:36:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> this 23:36:14 <PublicServer> <Hyppy> Yeah, I thought the SL was going to be going all the way to the 0-50 lane 23:36:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> is just to make trains turn back 23:36:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> wait 23:36:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> are we talking about the same? :D 23:37:00 <PublicServer> <Hyppy> Yeah, looking at it 23:37:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> ok now 23:37:52 <PublicServer> <Hyppy> I didn't realize the SL would be ending east of C1 23:37:59 <PublicServer> <Hyppy> ooh 23:38:08 <PublicServer> <Hyppy> I see your point now :-) 23:38:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> the SL turns back 23:38:30 <PublicServer> *** slas joined the game 23:38:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> you can see that in PSG 121 23:46:33 <PublicServer> *** slas has left the game (leaving) 23:51:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> hey hyppy I guess that is you there 23:51:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> no landbridges WIP 23:52:01 <PublicServer> <Hyppy> Yeah 23:52:07 <PublicServer> <Hyppy> Trying to figure it out 23:52:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> you built also the hub to the left? 23:52:23 <PublicServer> <Hyppy> Not that I remember, no 23:52:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> ok 23:52:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> because it is wrong unfortunately 23:52:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> there should be again the end of the SL -.- 23:52:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> whatever 23:52:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> I will have to delete it 23:52:58 <PublicServer> <Hyppy> wait, the SLH or the X-over? 23:53:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> X-over is fine 23:53:32 <PublicServer> <Hyppy> Ohhh no 23:53:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> the SL only has to end at the place of SLH, but shouldnt connect to the ML 23:54:18 <PublicServer> <Hyppy> I'm avoiding SLHs completely for now, gonna watch a few more rounds before I try anything more than crossing SLs and primary pickups 23:54:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> okaaayyy 23:54:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh 23:54:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> for fuck sakes 23:54:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> I have a bad feeling 23:55:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> no it is al right :D 23:55:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> ok nevermind 23:55:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> I thought there is a missing SL in the mess 23:55:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> but ok 23:55:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> not anything wrong yet 23:56:02 <PublicServer> <Hyppy> There was a convo earlier from Mark and the Fruit/Maize mixup and which points were SLs for each 23:56:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes of course because the thing is they must not connect 23:56:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> as they are two completely different networks 23:57:10 <PublicServer> <Hyppy> Well, no, I think Maize was supposed to SLH at 100, 200... and it started on 50, 150... to throw things off 23:57:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> that is impossible 23:57:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> one mus be 50 150 250 350 and the other must be 100 200 300 and probably 400 23:58:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> but I really dont know about the last one on fruit 23:58:27 <PublicServer> <Hyppy> Yeah, fruit was supposed to be 50 150 250 350, and maize the 100 200 300 400 23:58:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> ok but look at the 400 line for fruit 23:58:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> very VERY small space