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00:00:48 <sparr> Seppel: which solution? where I signed twice? 00:01:05 <sparr> drat, I missed Sepp 00:01:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> anyways you mean the wood exit? 00:01:25 <sparr> !password 00:01:25 <PublicServer> sparr: irking 00:01:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> quite fine improvement 00:01:39 <PublicServer> *** Amm1er joined the game 00:01:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi Ammler :) 00:01:59 *** ^Spike^ has quit IRC 00:02:02 <PublicServer> *** sparr joined the game 00:02:06 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> Hello :-) 00:02:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> what now? 00:02:26 <PublicServer> <jondisti> i prospected some oil wells 00:02:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> oil wells will die, wont they? 00:02:56 <PublicServer> <jondisti> i guess not if ratins are ok? 00:03:05 <PublicServer> <sparr> ok, I see where sepp changed my merge 00:03:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> I think even with good ratings ... there is a grf to disable this 00:03:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> but I am not sure 00:03:54 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> why did we use lev4 instead 2 lev3? 00:03:59 <PublicServer> <sparr> sepp cheated 00:04:04 <PublicServer> <jondisti> plan said so :( 00:04:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> Ammler: probably to make it as the original pile :( 00:04:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> I just hate that 00:04:25 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> :-D 00:04:34 <PublicServer> <jondisti> V453000: actually 1 oil well died which i had built station and trains for 00:04:34 <PublicServer> <sparr> his new W->S addition at MSH01B only goes N->W at BBH01 00:04:44 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> how many trains had pile1? 00:04:46 <PublicServer> <jondisti> i thought it was because not enough trains 00:04:51 <PublicServer> <jondisti> Amm1er: 1000+ 00:04:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah 00:05:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> just a little over 1000 00:05:12 <PublicServer> <V453000> about 1016 or so 00:05:34 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> but this map looks empty 00:05:38 <PublicServer> <jondisti> not too much tweaking needed and we could have 2k 00:05:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> agreed 00:05:58 <PublicServer> <sparr> whole lot of evil at BBH01 it seems 00:06:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> ? 00:06:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> it works 00:06:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh 00:06:49 <PublicServer> <sparr> north side has 3 lines coming in 00:06:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> bbhs are renamed :D 00:07:03 <PublicServer> <jondisti> FUCK 00:07:07 <PublicServer> <sparr> bad jondisti 00:07:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh dumbasses crashed I see :D 00:07:31 <PublicServer> <jondisti> problem solved 00:07:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> they dumb - they burn 00:08:18 <PublicServer> <sparr> BBH01 has 3 lines entering from the north. 1 goes to both west exits, 1 goes to both west exits and one south exit, and 1 goes to one west exit and one south exit 00:08:55 <PublicServer> <sparr> BBH01 N->S needs a 3->2, and N->W needs more balance 00:08:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> omg you are right 00:09:13 <PublicServer> <jondisti> W->sawmill needs more lanes 00:09:16 <PublicServer> <jondisti> or lane 00:09:17 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> did xeryus really make that pbs entry? 00:09:20 <PublicServer> <sparr> at sign "/sepp" a new N->W line was added with no N->S connection 00:09:22 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> at coal drop 00:09:42 <Seppel> was my intention ;) 00:09:43 <PublicServer> <sparr> and the missing split for one of the N->W lines was always there 00:09:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes he did 00:10:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> Ammler: I was talking about it with him ... he made it .) 00:10:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> why? 00:11:17 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> just wondering, he used pbs, nothing special... 00:11:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> true :) if we ignored the pbs part we could say it is his classic entry :) 00:12:20 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> maybe a bit too much balanace ;-) 00:12:21 <PublicServer> <sparr> MSH02 has a lot more trains using one south exit than the other 00:12:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> Ammler: hehe :) 00:12:39 *** pugi has quit IRC 00:13:23 <PublicServer> <jondisti> it's not balanced at all 00:13:54 <PublicServer> <sparr> trains from the station are only choosing one exit 00:14:06 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> I meant the entry 00:14:08 <PublicServer> <sparr> gonna shorten a track 00:15:01 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> hmm, you didn't alkabout coal drop I guess 00:15:22 <PublicServer> <jondisti> nope 00:15:47 <PublicServer> <jondisti> and so they like it only :-d 00:16:02 <PublicServer> <jondisti> and that's not the solution we wanted 00:16:42 <PublicServer> <jondisti> wohoo 00:16:44 <PublicServer> <sparr> MSH02 seems more balanced now 00:17:15 <PublicServer> <sparr> not entirely, but more 00:17:38 <PublicServer> <jondisti> they're using only 1 exit track 00:17:39 <PublicServer> <jondisti> still 00:17:50 <PublicServer> <sparr> nah, it's about 90:10 now :) 00:17:57 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 00:17:59 <PublicServer> <Sietse> gonna create a jam 00:18:01 <PublicServer> <sparr> maybe as good as 75:25 00:19:58 <PublicServer> <sparr> now its a LOT shorter to use that track 00:21:31 <PublicServer> *** Amm1er has left the game (connection lost) 00:21:52 <PublicServer> <sparr> i find it funny that MSH02 was built with a east side instead of a north side, would shorten the whole path there by a hundred tiles 00:22:30 <V453000> the record amount of trains is 2522 from PZG5 ? 00:23:51 <KenjiE20> @records 00:23:51 <Webster> #openttdcoop Records: Clients: 24 | Trains: 2000 (PSG#131) - 2500 (PZG#5) | Single cargo output: 100,367 (PSG#121) | World Pop: 3,075,319 (PSG#101) 00:24:37 <PublicServer> <jondisti> jam 00:24:39 <PublicServer> <jondisti> :( 00:25:27 <PublicServer> *** sparr has left the game (connection lost) 00:26:12 <V453000> !password 00:26:12 <PublicServer> V453000: mopped 00:26:21 <PublicServer> <jondisti> big jam 00:26:28 <KenjiE20> @records 00:26:28 <Webster> #openttdcoop Records: Clients: 24 | Trains: 2000 (PSG#131) - 2500 (PZG#5) | Single cargo output: 100,367 (PSG#121) | World Pop: 3,075,319 (PSG#101) 00:26:28 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 00:26:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> wher? 00:26:35 <PublicServer> <Sietse> I stopped ore drop for a few minutes 00:26:36 <KenjiE20> >_> 00:26:50 *** KenjiE20|LT has joined #openttdcoop 00:26:50 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20|LT 00:27:13 <KenjiE20> @records 00:27:13 <Webster> #openttdcoop Records: Clients: 24 | Trains: 2000 (PSG#131) - 2522 (PZG#5) | Single cargo output: 100,367 (PSG#121) | World Pop: 3,075,319 (PSG#101) 00:27:15 <KenjiE20> better 00:27:24 <Ammler> :-) 00:27:34 <V453000> whats the difference? 00:27:39 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 00:28:12 <KenjiE20|LT> well the numbers are gith for one :) 00:28:14 <Ammler> Gute Nacht Liebe Koopers 00:28:19 <KenjiE20|LT> s/gith/right/ 00:28:24 <V453000> cya Ammler :) 00:28:44 <V453000> Kenji: ??? 00:29:31 <KenjiE20|LT> it was 2500 -> 2522 because I set it, but never went looking for the specific 00:29:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> sure 00:30:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> isnt important 00:30:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> I would like to replay PZG5 much more than MZG4 to be honest 00:30:56 <Chris_Booth> hello all 00:30:57 <Razaekel> MZG? 00:31:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 00:31:02 <Chris_Booth> night Ammler 00:31:12 <PublicServer> <Sietse> hey 00:31:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> Raz: Member zone game? 00:31:28 <Razaekel> what's the difference between that and PZ? 00:31:32 <Chris_Booth> V453000: i dont think you could ever replay PZG5 00:31:43 <jondisti> :D 00:31:43 <Chris_Booth> pro zone and member zone 00:31:49 <Razaekel> yea 00:31:53 <Razaekel> what's the difference? 00:31:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> CB:you mean it was too good already? 00:31:59 <Ammler> members aren't pros ;-) 00:32:00 <Chris_Booth> pro zone was formed to replace mz 00:32:08 <Chris_Booth> as mz never played 00:32:10 <Razaekel> no, it'd probably kill the players before they got to 1500 00:32:15 <Chris_Booth> not that the pros play any more 00:32:34 <KenjiE20|LT> isn't 1500 what 134 got to? 00:32:42 <Chris_Booth> some of the building I and we as a team did in PZ 05 was epic 00:32:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> it is 00:32:44 <KenjiE20|LT> the last 1024^ 00:32:48 <Ammler> a nice MZ gaem: http://maps.openttdcoop.org/MemberZone_11.png#16352:8176:0 00:32:59 <Razaekel> not like the PZ server is up anymore 00:33:10 <Chris_Booth> Razaekel: it is 00:33:13 <Ammler> no request for PZ game 00:33:18 <Chris_Booth> we just need a new game 00:33:23 <Chris_Booth> the last one has finished 00:33:27 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 00:33:28 <Razaekel> it's not in the channel 00:33:33 <Chris_Booth> all it needs is an archive 00:33:35 <Chris_Booth> and a new map 00:33:47 <Chris_Booth> it can be put back on in very little time 00:34:03 <Chris_Booth> Razaekel: if you want a game make a map and suggest it 00:34:24 <Razaekel> i would just randomly generate a desert map and use that 00:34:48 <V453000> is there any possibility how I could participate in a PZ game? 00:35:21 <Razaekel> i dunno 00:35:26 <Razaekel> you kinda have to be a pro :-P 00:35:38 <V453000> well how is that defined :p 00:35:45 <PublicServer> <jondisti> we need 3rd line between MSH03B and BBH21 00:35:52 <Chris_Booth> V453000: when you one say ight pro 00:35:57 <Chris_Booth> want to play with us 00:35:58 <PublicServer> <jondisti> but i'm not gonna stay here this time till 5 am 00:36:09 <Chris_Booth> jondisti: leave it until tomoz 00:36:14 <PublicServer> <jondisti> yep 00:36:17 <PublicServer> *** jondisti has left the game (leaving) 00:36:18 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 00:36:24 *** Progman has quit IRC 00:36:26 <Ammler> V453000: you are a pro compared with Razaekel ;-) 00:36:27 <Razaekel> !archive 131 00:36:27 <PublicServer> Razaekel: http://www.openttdcoop.ORG/wiki/PublicServer:Archive | http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/ProZone:Archive | http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/MemberZone:Archive 00:36:35 <KenjiE20|LT> @psgsave 131 00:36:35 <Webster> PSG 131 Archive entry; http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/PublicServer:Archive_-_Games_131_-_140#gameid_131 00:36:38 <V453000> Ammler: :D 00:36:42 <Razaekel> thanks kenji 00:37:00 <Razaekel> of course, it doesnt work >.< 00:37:02 <jondisti> i'd like to play pro zone too! 00:37:12 <Ammler> I guess ps131 is the same as pz5 iirc 00:37:21 <Chris_Booth> jondisti: you need an invite 00:37:38 <Ammler> first we need a game to invite you to 00:38:16 <Chris_Booth> yeah @ Ammler 00:38:41 <PublicServer> *** Razaekel has left the game (connection lost) 00:38:48 <sietse> darn... all gone.. 00:39:09 <Chris_Booth> sietse: we havent all gone 00:39:11 <Chris_Booth> i can join 00:39:19 <Chris_Booth> !password 00:39:19 <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: brooms 00:39:38 <Razaekel> !pzgsave 5 00:39:43 <Razaekel> !pzsave 5 00:39:45 <Razaekel> :-( 00:39:58 <sietse> @ 00:40:57 <Chris_Booth> !password 00:40:57 <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: brooms 00:41:00 <KenjiE20|LT> no bind for that 00:41:07 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 00:41:09 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 00:41:20 <PublicServer> <Sietse> the saviour! 00:41:22 <Chris_Booth> it is in the blog though 00:41:30 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> where do you want me 00:41:51 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> WTF jam at BBH 01 00:42:17 <PublicServer> <Sietse> build by you :) 00:42:40 <jondisti> modified by some others :P 00:43:45 <PublicServer> <Sietse> I didn't locate the problem yet, but Chris is already solving the issue :) 00:44:02 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i am on it 00:48:05 <PublicServer> *** jondisti has left the game (connection lost) 00:49:16 *** Zulan has quit IRC 00:51:34 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ok that will fix that jam 00:51:41 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> what an effort that was 00:51:47 <PublicServer> <Sietse> nice work 00:51:48 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i got it wrong 2 or 3 times lol 00:52:22 <PublicServer> <Sietse> it is confusing with all those lines 00:53:19 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ok any mroe jams? 00:53:48 <PublicServer> <Sietse> most look pretty solid atm 00:54:09 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> BBH 11 isnt to great 00:54:43 <PublicServer> <Sietse> I have build most of it 00:54:44 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ok Sietsedo you agree with me this game is now complete~? 00:54:46 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ? 00:54:58 <PublicServer> <Sietse> only one merger is not finished 00:55:06 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> where? 00:55:09 <PublicServer> <Sietse> can u tell me the issues of BBH11? 00:55:20 <PublicServer> <Sietse> S -> E 00:55:51 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> its not a major issue 00:55:57 <PublicServer> <Sietse> true 00:56:15 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> they just need to have a main stream 00:56:32 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and the small jam that come every few mins will never appear again 00:56:34 <PublicServer> <Sietse> also not much traffic 00:56:53 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i wouldnt worry about it 00:56:58 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i said small issue 00:57:07 <PublicServer> <Sietse> what are the other points? 00:57:19 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> nothing else 00:57:23 <PublicServer> <Sietse> Since I created most of it you might have some interesting tips :) 00:57:24 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> just looks fine 00:57:40 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> its big 00:57:47 <PublicServer> <Sietse> ye 00:57:56 <PublicServer> <Sietse> that hill won 00:58:01 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and has one very bad bridge 00:58:05 <PublicServer> <Sietse> won't help towards size 00:58:18 <PublicServer> <Sietse> desync bridge 00:58:34 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> you have bad signals and a desync in one place 00:59:21 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but thats it mate 00:59:25 <PublicServer> <Sietse> ok 00:59:44 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> can you do me a favour now? 00:59:53 <PublicServer> <Sietse> depends on what :) 01:00:04 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> write the archive for this game 01:00:27 <PublicServer> <Sietse> ok, if I have any example how to do that 01:00:36 <V453000> shall I do that? :) 01:02:32 <V453000> I will at least write it for 172 right now 01:02:38 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i 01:02:51 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i am proud of how well my BBH 01 has stood up 01:03:10 <PublicServer> <Sietse> are there any guidelines available? 01:03:20 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> copy and old archive 01:03:27 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> all the wiki code is the same 01:03:33 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (connection lost) 01:03:34 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 01:04:39 <sietse> hmmm 01:04:45 <sietse> not experienced with wikis 01:04:48 <V453000> simple isnt it? :) 01:04:50 <sietse> but let's give it a shot 01:04:55 <V453000> ye 01:05:03 <KenjiE20|LT> copy from line break {{ to }} line break 01:05:08 <KenjiE20|LT> and change the numbers 01:05:17 <KenjiE20|LT> !save 01:05:17 <PublicServer> Saving game... 01:05:18 <V453000> ok I will do the PSG 172 description etc tomorrow ... 01:05:20 <PublicServer> Game saved 01:05:47 <KenjiE20|LT> FYI; it'll probably sit as-is till mid-afternoon tomorrow 01:06:02 <Chris_Booth> KenjiE20|LT: we need a new map 01:06:03 <jondisti> but... i'm off now 01:06:07 <Chris_Booth> and people to arrive 01:06:07 <KenjiE20|LT> unless someone else has a mad burst of activity and builds a map 01:06:08 <jondisti> nite 01:06:10 <Chris_Booth> as its no biggy 01:06:15 *** jondisti has quit IRC 01:06:20 <KenjiE20|LT> CB I have one, it just needs updating 01:06:36 <Chris_Booth> KenjiE20|LT: i can make you a nice map (but if you have one there is no point) 01:06:44 <V453000> why dont we just grab a map with some grf and random it? 01:07:27 <KenjiE20|LT> how d'you think we normally do it? :P 01:09:38 <V453000> yeah of course ... just that at every end of game I often hear "have you created a map?" "there is no new map to play" and so on 01:09:52 <V453000> which would look like it takes a long time 01:09:58 <KenjiE20|LT> because there's still the effort of cross checking GRFs 01:10:22 <KenjiE20|LT> plus the setup time to run/begin it 01:10:50 <V453000> true ... 01:11:11 <V453000> for example if I had to be the one I would firstly have to fix my config 01:11:17 <V453000> and that would take some time :D 01:11:32 <KenjiE20|LT> yea 01:20:32 <sietse> do i just need to create something like this: {{Archive_PublicServer|Public Server Game 172|01.01.10-19.01.10| {{User|Mark}} | [[Gametype:Cargo_concept|Cargo]] | TLx | 512 x 512 Sub-Tropical | r18758 [[GRF|#openttdcoop-GRF-Pack 7.3]] | Game Desc |172|File:PSG172.png|Picture Desc. }} 01:20:40 <sietse> ? 01:20:45 <KenjiE20|LT> yup 01:20:48 <sietse> ok 01:20:58 <KenjiE20|LT> spam the preview button, till it looks right 01:21:22 <sietse> ok 01:26:15 <V453000> I remember my first wiki post not so long ago :D 01:26:30 <V453000> didnt know what the preview is actually good for 01:34:08 <sietse> heheh 01:34:24 <sietse> only a screenshot needed 01:34:47 <sietse> it's gonna feature the sick sawmill station area 01:35:23 <V453000> I would vote for Marks hub even though it is not the most busy place 01:35:45 <V453000> but do as you want :) it doesnt really matter much 01:36:00 <sietse> what zoomlevel is appropriate for the wiki? 01:36:16 <V453000> as you want I would say 01:36:19 <KenjiE20|LT> 'tever works 01:37:46 <V453000> I wanted to say "What about to put the same area as from the original pile" but then I looked what it is :D factory 01:39:25 <V453000> and that I wouldnt really want to put in the screen :D 01:40:44 <sietse> weeeeh 01:40:46 <sietse> done it :) 01:40:52 <sietse> first wiki page ever!! 01:41:02 <PublicServer> *** Sietse has left the game (leaving) 01:42:06 <V453000> I will just edit a bit, right? 01:42:11 <KenjiE20|LT> game date was 19th 01:42:20 <KenjiE20|LT> as shown by the previous entry :P 01:42:25 <V453000> :) 01:42:29 <KenjiE20|LT> it's also temperate 01:42:33 <V453000> you editing already Kenji? 01:42:34 <sietse> go ahead 01:42:36 <V453000> yeah I wanted to say that 01:42:43 <KenjiE20|LT> not logged in I don't think 01:42:54 <V453000> ok 01:43:16 <KenjiE20|LT> otherwise, good entry 01:43:21 <V453000> when Sietse is here it is fine :) he could edit it 01:43:33 <V453000> I thought he left ... but that was only from game 01:43:34 <KenjiE20|LT> V453000: make PZ04 a like wouldja 01:43:49 <KenjiE20|LT> link* 01:44:19 <V453000> ? 01:44:28 <V453000> oh so 01:44:32 <KenjiE20|LT> yea 01:44:33 <V453000> ok 01:44:37 <sietse> brb 01:44:45 <KenjiE20|LT> lol 01:45:14 <V453000> should I link to the archive page or the savegame already? I think archive page 01:45:23 <KenjiE20|LT> achive 01:45:35 <KenjiE20|LT> archive 01:45:38 <KenjiE20|LT> >_< 01:48:02 <V453000> did we have any builders board 01:48:08 <V453000> or should I try to remember? 01:48:31 *** haseo has joined #openttdcoop 01:49:34 <db48x> !password 01:49:34 <PublicServer> db48x: spewed 01:49:59 <PublicServer> *** db48x joined the game 01:53:01 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop 01:53:59 <V453000> ok finished 01:57:47 <PublicServer> *** db48x has left the game (leaving) 01:59:20 *** V453000 has quit IRC 02:03:13 *** haseo has quit IRC 02:16:15 *** Bluelight has quit IRC 02:16:48 *** Fuco has quit IRC 02:55:10 *** cornjuliox has joined #openttdcoop 02:56:44 *** KenjiE20|LT has quit IRC 02:59:29 *** Phazorx has left #openttdcoop 03:15:33 *** sietse has quit IRC 03:15:50 *** PeterT_ has joined #openttdcoop 03:16:20 *** PeterT_ has quit IRC 06:37:43 *** db48x has quit IRC 06:37:57 *** db48x has joined #openttdcoop 07:13:52 *** tkjacobsen has joined #openttdcoop 07:16:36 *** mitooo has joined #openttdcoop 07:46:04 *** ^Spike^ has joined #openttdcoop 07:46:04 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ^Spike^ 07:59:09 <mitooo> hey :) 08:02:40 *** JamesG has joined #openttdcoop 08:02:47 <JamesG> !password 08:02:47 <PublicServer> JamesG: legals 08:03:01 <PublicServer> *** James joined the game 08:10:11 <PublicServer> *** James has left the game (leaving) 08:14:39 *** devilsadvocate has joined #openttdcoop 08:14:54 <devilsadvocate> !password 08:14:54 <PublicServer> devilsadvocate: fluxed 08:15:09 <PublicServer> *** devilsadvocate joined the game 08:15:36 *** cornjuliox has quit IRC 08:17:01 <PublicServer> *** devilsadvocate has left the game (leaving) 08:39:27 *** JamesG has quit IRC 08:39:40 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop 08:39:40 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 09:30:56 *** mixrin has joined #openttdcoop 09:44:35 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 09:53:35 *** highpinger has joined #openttdcoop 09:53:50 *** AdTheRat has quit IRC 10:16:09 *** bartaway is now known as bartavelle 10:16:23 <bartavelle> hello 10:27:09 *** Phazorx has joined #openttdcoop 10:35:35 *** dr_gonzo has joined #openttdcoop 10:53:23 *** dexter311 is now known as Guest44 10:53:23 *** dexter311 has joined #openttdcoop 10:53:29 <PublicServer> *** Sepp joined the game 10:56:23 <PublicServer> *** Sepp has left the game (leaving) 10:58:34 *** Guest44 has quit IRC 11:06:22 *** ODM has quit IRC 11:21:22 *** PeterT has quit IRC 11:37:35 <mitooo> !players 11:37:37 <PublicServer> mitooo: There are currently no clients connected to the server 11:56:46 <PublicServer> Server closed down by admin 11:56:46 <PublicServer> Saving game... 11:56:48 <PublicServer> Game saved 11:56:50 <PublicServer> Server has exited 11:56:51 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 11:57:22 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 11:57:22 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 11:57:45 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 11:57:45 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 11:57:46 <PublicServer> Loading default savegame 11:57:46 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 11:57:46 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #173 (r18867) | STAGE: No clients left -> finalizing | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart & !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder" 11:58:00 <KenjiE20> O.o 11:58:33 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 11:59:37 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 11:59:37 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 11:59:37 <PublicServer> Loading default savegame 11:59:37 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 11:59:37 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #173 (r18867) | STAGE: No clients left -> finalizing | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart & !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder" 12:05:55 <PublicServer> Server closed down by admin 12:05:58 <PublicServer> Server has exited 12:05:59 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 12:06:39 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 12:06:39 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 12:06:39 <PublicServer> Loading default savegame 12:06:39 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #173 (r18867) | STAGE: No clients left -> finalizing | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart & !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder" 12:06:39 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 12:07:10 <planetmaker> uh? 12:07:22 <KenjiE20> what IS going on? 12:07:31 <planetmaker> my question :-) No idea 12:07:56 <PublicServer> Server closed down by admin 12:07:58 <PublicServer> Server has exited 12:07:58 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 12:08:08 <KenjiE20> oh Ammler ? 12:08:19 <KenjiE20> I saw a 'sreenshot' 12:08:32 <planetmaker> I guess. Someone is editing the cfg :-) 12:08:42 <planetmaker> Ammler, ^^ ? 12:08:42 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 12:08:42 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 12:08:42 <PublicServer> Loading default savegame 12:08:42 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #173 (r18867) | STAGE: No clients left -> finalizing | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart & !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder" 12:08:55 <PublicServer> Server closed down by admin 12:08:58 <PublicServer> Server has exited 12:08:59 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 12:09:02 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 12:09:02 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 12:09:02 <PublicServer> Loading default savegame 12:09:02 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #173 (r18867) | STAGE: No clients left -> finalizing | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart & !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder" 12:09:22 <KenjiE20> @admin ignore PublicServer!*@* 12:09:27 <planetmaker> ok... "closed down by admin" is understandable. But... "connection lost" is not. 12:09:36 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 12:09:37 <Ammler> KenjiE20: too late :-P 12:09:42 <KenjiE20> you done? 12:10:37 <Ammler> no :-( 12:10:50 <KenjiE20> @admin ignore add PublicServer!*@* 12:10:50 <Webster> KenjiE20: The operation succeeded. 12:10:52 <Ammler> but is that bad, someone likes to play? 12:10:54 <KenjiE20> :D 12:11:04 <KenjiE20> it'll stop the topic spam 12:12:04 <Ammler> tried to enable "webcam" :-) 12:12:51 <KenjiE20> I guessed 12:13:17 <mitooo> aahhh! people :D 12:13:52 * KenjiE20 hides behind the door 12:14:11 <KenjiE20> ain't no one here but us dustballs 12:19:14 <Ammler> http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 12:19:24 <Ammler> !rcon scrollto 0x5643 12:19:33 <Ammler> !rcon screenshot 12:20:08 <PublicServer> Server closed down by admin 12:20:11 <PublicServer> Server has exited 12:20:12 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 12:20:16 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 12:20:16 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 12:20:16 <PublicServer> Loading default savegame 12:20:16 <KenjiE20> hmm 12:20:17 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 12:20:23 <KenjiE20> getting there then 12:20:36 <Ammler> !rcon screenshot 12:21:20 *** Phazorx has quit IRC 12:24:05 *** VictorOfSweden has joined #openttdcoop 12:24:28 <PublicServer> Server closed down by admin 12:24:34 <PublicServer> Server has exited 12:24:34 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 12:24:56 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 12:24:56 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 12:24:56 <PublicServer> Loading default savegame 12:24:56 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 12:25:21 <Ammler> !info 12:25:21 <PublicServer> Ammler: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Pile Transport 2.0' Year Founded: 1950 Money: 877045810243 Loan: 0 Value: 877415725358 (T:1486, R:4, P:0, S:0) unprotected 12:25:25 <Ammler> !rcon screenshot 12:25:48 <Ammler> !rcon rm screenshot.png 12:25:48 <PublicServer> Ammler: screenshot.png: No such file or directory. 12:26:23 <PublicServer> *** VictorOfSweden joined the game 12:27:53 <PublicServer> *** VictorOfSweden has left the game (leaving) 12:28:31 <mitooo> 87 blliion? o_O 12:29:10 <KenjiE20> probably average 12:29:23 <KenjiE20> no one's ever bothered by that 12:30:21 <Ammler> !screen 12:31:58 <Ammler> !screen 12:31:58 <PublicServer> *** Ammler made screenshot: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/screentshot.png 12:32:43 <KenjiE20> ^ that's wrong 12:32:55 <KenjiE20> almost entirely 12:33:43 <Ammler> :-D 12:33:51 <hylje> screen-t-shot 12:34:00 <Ammler> !rcon scrollto 0xaf01 12:34:03 <Ammler> !screen 12:34:03 <PublicServer> *** Ammler made screenshot: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 12:34:15 <KenjiE20> nice 12:34:25 <Ammler> try it :-) 12:34:32 <KenjiE20> I've got it 12:34:43 <KenjiE20> it's working, which is the nice bit 12:34:46 <Ammler> I mean, try to find a location :-P 12:35:17 <KenjiE20> !rcon scrollto 0x95b 12:35:19 <Ammler> hmm, I could grep for last action and make a screen of that 12:35:25 <KenjiE20> !rcon screenshot 12:35:32 <KenjiE20> !screen 12:35:32 <PublicServer> *** KenjiE20 made screenshot: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 12:35:47 <KenjiE20> hmm, that's an edge 12:35:55 <KenjiE20> !rcon scrollto 0x3332c 12:35:57 *** pugi has quit IRC 12:35:58 <KenjiE20> !screen 12:35:58 <PublicServer> *** KenjiE20 made screenshot: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 12:36:06 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 12:36:34 <KenjiE20> !rcon scrollto 0xaafb0 12:36:37 <KenjiE20> !screen 12:36:37 <PublicServer> *** KenjiE20 made screenshot: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 12:36:44 <KenjiE20> stuff 12:36:55 <KenjiE20> and a wall of text 12:36:58 <KenjiE20> but stuff 12:37:10 <Ammler> is it possible to grep a file from bottom? 12:37:31 <KenjiE20> "tail -n <lines> | grep " ? 12:37:32 <Ammler> the first docommand and than a sed :-) 12:38:02 <KenjiE20> grep might have a reverse order 12:38:19 <Ammler> I need just one line 12:38:23 <Ammler> maybe something with seed 12:40:34 <Ammler> !screen 12:40:34 <PublicServer> *** Ammler made screenshot: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 12:42:08 <Ammler> shouldn't no_con remove the chat etc? 12:42:26 <KenjiE20> chat isn't the console though 12:42:59 <Ammler> I thought, it removes the whole console 12:43:04 <Ammler> gui I mean 12:43:12 <Ammler> but anyway, better so 12:44:03 <KenjiE20> no, no_con would be so you can remove the console when you use the command 12:44:15 <KenjiE20> because how else would the average player trigger that 12:48:12 *** VictorOfSweden has quit IRC 12:50:19 <Ammler> ctrl-something 12:50:23 <Ammler> but true :-) 12:53:57 <Ammler> then we could link the screenshot generator to the password changer 12:54:30 <KenjiE20> !save 12:54:30 <PublicServer> Saving game... 12:54:33 <PublicServer> Game saved 13:09:28 <Chris_Booth> afternoon all 13:21:45 *** Thraxian|Work has joined #openttdcoop 13:21:45 *** Webster sets mode: +o Thraxian|Work 13:32:24 *** Fuco has joined #openttdcoop 13:49:24 *** Cooper453 has joined #openttdcoop 13:49:58 *** Cooper453 has left #openttdcoop 13:53:04 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 13:57:37 <Ammler> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/autopilot/repository/entry/autopilot.tcl#L223 13:57:52 <Ammler> tcl pros, please help 13:58:38 <Ammler> I need to "scan" for such lines: [2010-01-24 17:04:54] CmdRemoveSingleSignal Chris Booth date:2235-05-28 tile:0005E929 p1:00000001 p2:00000000 text: price:603" -> tile:0005E929 14:02:26 <Chris_Booth> Ammler: why that line? 14:02:30 <Chris_Booth> what did i do? 14:02:49 <Ammler> BAD GUY! 14:03:01 <Chris_Booth> all i did was remove a signal 14:03:07 <Chris_Booth> you are just picking on me lol 14:03:09 <Chris_Booth> i am telling 14:03:10 <Chris_Booth> :P 14:03:12 <Ammler> !screen 14:03:13 <PublicServer> *** Ammler made screenshot: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 14:03:18 <Ammler> I like it for that ^ 14:03:58 <Chris_Booth> that a very small screen there Ammler 14:04:14 <Ammler> that is default openttd size 14:04:43 <Chris_Booth> i am using 1900 x 1080 as my openttd size atm 14:04:47 <Chris_Booth> i can see alot of map 14:05:28 <Ammler> nice, but how does that help me to modify autopilot.tcl? 14:05:50 <Chris_Booth> it doesnt 14:06:04 <Chris_Booth> why do you want to scan for those lines? 14:06:17 <Ammler> so we can watch you better 14:06:52 <Ammler> my idea is to make a screen of last action location 14:06:54 <Chris_Booth> why dont we use a timelaps patch anymore to record the game? 14:07:30 <planetmaker> it needed a client constantly online. And a person maintaining that patch ;-) 14:07:32 <Razaekel> huh 14:07:49 <Razaekel> can't the server watch it? 14:07:59 <planetmaker> and a person which does *something* with the gigabytes of images 14:08:02 <Ammler> watch what? 14:08:15 <Razaekel> for the timelapse 14:08:16 <Chris_Booth> the map to map a game overview 14:08:52 <Ammler> http://maps.openttdcoop.org/ps173.png#32736:16368:0 <-- one of these maps needs around 1GB space :-) 14:08:59 <Razaekel> yea 14:09:53 <Razaekel> ok 14:10:33 <Razaekel> i wonder if it's possible to use the build log to make a movie 14:10:51 <Ammler> should be 14:11:05 <Ammler> no, it isn't 14:11:14 <Ammler> you might need the random seed, dunno 14:11:25 *** kratt has joined #openttdcoop 14:11:38 <kratt> Good morning 14:11:40 <kratt> !players 14:11:42 <PublicServer> kratt: There are currently no clients connected to the server 14:12:40 <mitooo> morning (or afternoon :p) :) 14:12:55 <Ammler> Fuco: Fuco Fuco 14:13:11 <Razaekel> well 14:13:17 <Ammler> I need your TCL skills :-) 14:13:25 <Fuco> uh 14:13:29 <Razaekel> that line up above has the command and location 14:13:30 <Ammler> :-D 14:13:47 <Razaekel> so if it's like that for everything in the game 14:14:18 <Ammler> I have no clue how the radomizer works.... 14:14:31 <Ammler> Fuco: 14:14:35 <Ammler> [14:57] <Ammler> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/autopilot/repository/entry/autopilot.tcl#L223 14:14:36 <Ammler> [14:57] <Ammler> tcl pros, please help 14:14:38 <Ammler> [14:58] <Ammler> I need to "scan" for such lines: [2010-01-24 17:04:54] CmdRemoveSingleSignal Chris Booth date:2235-05-28 tile:0005E929 p1:00000001 p2:00000000 text: price:603" -> tile:0005E929 14:15:15 <KenjiE20> Razaekel: no, no orders 14:15:29 <Fuco> scan for lines and then do what 14:15:40 <Ammler> write the value of tile to a var 14:16:00 <Razaekel> ah, good point kenji 14:16:07 <kratt> well ammler 14:16:12 <kratt> do you use 32bpp 14:16:13 <Chris_Booth> Ammler: just one question what is lots of pople are ubilding and you are getting 100's of vaules a seconds? 14:16:35 <Ammler> I don't make the screen on every client 14:16:43 <Chris_Booth> just me? 14:16:45 <Ammler> but I use the var for the screen location 14:16:51 <Ammler> Chris_Booth: of course, just you. 14:16:59 <Chris_Booth> yay me 14:17:06 <Chris_Booth> its only coz i am so amazing 14:17:10 <Chris_Booth> and you to see how i do it 14:17:59 <Ammler> I will rename it to boothshot.png 14:18:16 <KenjiE20> All Booth All the time 14:21:12 <Chris_Booth> wicked i would love that 14:22:11 <Chris_Booth> Ammler + KenjiE20: you could make booth png and make it a guide on how to build 14:23:06 <KenjiE20> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrElSm31Q1g 14:23:07 <Webster> Title: YouTube - Futurama - Bender - GirlFriends Trust (at www.youtube.com) 14:24:03 <Chris_Booth> KenjiE20: love Futurama 14:24:25 *** web-pm has joined #openttdcoop 14:24:28 <Ammler> he, Blender sounds much better in German :-) 14:25:02 <KenjiE20> tbh need a vid with just the "oh wait" bit 14:25:03 <Chris_Booth> realy? 14:25:04 <Fuco> Ammler: tile is always 8 chars long (like this 0005E929)? 14:25:16 <Ammler> Fuco: I guess so 14:25:17 *** web-pm has left #openttdcoop 14:25:27 <Chris_Booth> Ammler: how is bender better in german? 14:25:41 <PublicServer> *** Thraxian joined the game 14:25:49 *** web-pm has joined #openttdcoop 14:26:10 *** web-pm has quit IRC 14:26:14 <Ammler> Chris_Booth: they used a bettter voice for him 14:26:19 <mitooo> !players 14:26:20 <PublicServer> mitooo: Client 7 is Thraxian, a spectator 14:26:34 <planetmaker> tralala 14:26:41 <Ammler> mäh 14:26:49 <mitooo> hey :) 14:26:59 <KenjiE20> he's got the voice pretty similar 14:27:06 <mitooo> btw, are we in the same game? 14:27:36 <Ammler> mitooo: you aren't 14:29:03 <Fuco> Ammler: i think this should do it: http://pastebin.com/f3ceb1e16 14:29:21 <Fuco> I don't have TCL installed now so can't test, but it's fairly simple 14:29:39 <Fuco> the number is in $tile var 14:30:18 <Ammler> Fuco: can I use Cmd* instead of CmdRemoveSingleSignal? 14:30:36 <Ammler> or Cmd.* 14:31:05 <Fuco> you can probably just use Cmd 14:31:10 <Fuco> it's not RE 14:31:24 <Fuco> this is just plain oldschool substring match 14:31:44 <Fuco> string first returns index of the first occurence of the substring 14:31:59 <Fuco> and to test if it's start of the line we check if the index is 0 14:33:02 <Fuco> you can then also remove the {} around the {CmdRemoveSingleSignal }, those are there to match the space character at the end 14:33:40 *** jondisti has joined #openttdcoop 14:35:05 <jondisti> !password 14:35:05 <PublicServer> jondisti: morbid 14:35:14 <PublicServer> *** jondisti joined the game 14:36:46 <Ammler> !players 14:36:48 <PublicServer> Ammler: Client 7 is Thraxian, a spectator 14:36:48 <PublicServer> Ammler: Client 8 (Orange) is jondisti, in company 1 (Pile Transport 2.0) 14:37:03 <Ammler> do you mind me restarting the server (again)? 14:37:53 <Ammler> Fuco: then it might be better to look for "tile:"? 14:38:06 <mitooo> are you experiencing problems? 14:38:22 <Fuco> Ammler, if you want to check *every* line with tile: in it, then yes 14:38:28 <Fuco> but it will also catch user chat messages 14:38:31 <Fuco> with "tile:" in it 14:38:49 <jondisti> what's going on? 14:40:03 <Ammler> Fuco: possible to search for both something like "Cmd*tile:" in glob 14:40:55 <Fuco> with RE it is, the question is why you need RE when you can do without 14:41:41 <Ammler> not every line with Cmd has tile: 14:42:11 <Ammler> why should someone use tile: in the chat? 14:42:20 <Fuco> i dont know ;d 14:42:23 <Ammler> he, we have to ban nick tile :-) 14:42:52 <Fuco> you can add if {$start != -1} { set tile ... } 14:43:04 <Fuco> that means tile: was not found in the line 14:43:17 <planetmaker> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=46667&start=220 <-- Ammler should I offer them the use of the devzone (again)? Or ... just let them re-invent the wheel? 14:43:19 <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums • View topic - Organizing 32bpp sprites (at www.tt-forums.net) 14:43:52 <Ammler> planetmaker: there is also the jupix repo, we shouldn't competive that 14:43:56 <planetmaker> Ben_Robbins basically proposes awrite ccess by a number of devs to a repo 14:44:38 <planetmaker> Ammler, yes... but they just discuss how to make it easier to handle ;-) But I guess, you're right. I'll leave it at that. I just wondered also as he complained yesterday about insufficient bandwidth and costs... 14:47:53 <Ammler> someone should define a "supporting file for the pngs with the offsets" 14:48:51 <kratt> !password 14:48:51 <PublicServer> kratt: seaman 14:49:26 <Thraxian|Work> what does "No clients left" mean in the STAGE: part of the topic? 14:49:27 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 14:49:29 <PublicServer> *** kratt joined the game 14:49:37 <PublicServer> <kratt> hey 14:49:47 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> hi kratt 14:50:58 <PublicServer> *** Thraxian has left the game (leaving) 14:52:17 <PublicServer> Server closed down by admin 14:52:17 <PublicServer> Saving game... 14:52:19 <PublicServer> Game saved 14:52:21 <PublicServer> Server has exited 14:52:22 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 14:52:44 <kratt> server closed? 14:52:50 <kratt> why 14:53:06 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 14:53:06 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 14:53:06 <PublicServer> Loading default savegame 14:53:06 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 14:53:06 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #173 (r18867) | STAGE: No clients left -> finalizing | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart & !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder" 14:53:40 <PublicServer> *** Amm1er joined the game 14:54:02 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 14:54:33 <Ammler> Fuco: http://pastebin.ca/1769391 14:54:53 <Ammler> KenjiE20: didn't you disable the PS for Webster? 14:55:36 <Ammler> http://pastebin.ca/1769393 14:55:47 <kratt> what is autopilot? 14:56:31 <Ammler> @wiki Autopilot 14:56:34 <Webster> Autopilot - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Special:Search?go=Go&search=Autopilot 14:56:59 <Ammler> kratt: the "bigbrother" of our openttd server 14:57:26 <KenjiE20> I un-ignored it again 14:57:31 <Thraxian|Work> have any of you ever looked at the scenario "Rusty Paradise" in the Online Content? 14:57:49 <Thraxian|Work> that scenario looks AWESOME. I wouldn't mind playing something similar (on a slighly larger scale) on the PS 14:57:55 <kratt> ye i read all that 14:58:04 <kratt> that is pretty impressive 14:58:10 <Fuco> that's weird 14:58:28 <Ammler> the 2nd paste is snippet from the code 14:58:54 <Fuco> ah well 14:59:00 <Fuco> there's no if 14:59:13 <Fuco> "if {$start != -1} { set tile ... }" 14:59:29 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 14:59:29 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 14:59:29 <PublicServer> Loading default savegame 14:59:29 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #173 (r18867) | STAGE: No clients left -> finalizing | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart & !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder" 14:59:29 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 14:59:36 <Ammler> yeah, just thought the same 14:59:50 <kratt> !password 14:59:50 <PublicServer> kratt: awakes 14:59:55 <PublicServer> *** Amm1er joined the game 15:00:03 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 15:00:03 <PublicServer> *** kratt joined the game 15:00:16 <Ammler> !screen 15:00:23 <kratt> !screen 15:00:23 <PublicServer> kratt: you must be channel op to use !screen 15:00:27 <kratt> op :D 15:01:19 <planetmaker> Where is the image saved, Ammler ? 15:01:38 <Ammler> now, how to use that var again? 15:02:21 <Ammler> http://pastebin.ca/1769398 didn't work 15:02:46 <PublicServer> *** jondisti joined the game 15:02:56 <Ammler> !screen 15:04:26 <Fuco> $varname 15:04:31 <mitooo> still in the n°173, FMinternet connection 15:04:54 <PublicServer> *** Sepp joined the game 15:04:57 <Ammler> [::ap::callback] autopilot/scripts/irc/screen.tcl failed with can't read "lastactionlocation": no such variable 15:05:06 <Ammler> somehow I need to get the scope? 15:05:09 <Fuco> yea 15:06:14 <Ammler> !screen 15:06:42 <Fuco> you will probably need to create a method in the module where you want to use that var, and set it via that method 15:06:52 <Fuco> i don't know how globals or scope works in tcl 15:08:06 <PublicServer> <jondisti> kratt: have you ever heard of cloning trains? 15:08:07 <Ammler> !screen 15:10:27 <PublicServer> *** kratt has left the game (connection lost) 15:10:32 <kratt> laggy 15:11:14 <Ammler> !screen 15:11:43 <mitooo> kratt: welcome in the club :) 15:16:28 <PublicServer> *** Amm1er has left the game (connection lost) 15:21:00 <Ammler> !screen 15:27:05 <Ammler> Restart? 15:27:10 <Ammler> please :'-( 15:27:23 <jondisti> what ever :P 15:27:30 <PublicServer> Server closed down by admin 15:27:30 <PublicServer> Saving game... 15:27:33 <PublicServer> Game saved 15:27:35 <PublicServer> Server has exited 15:27:36 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 15:27:51 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 15:27:51 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 15:27:51 <PublicServer> Loading default savegame 15:27:51 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #173 (r18867) | STAGE: No clients left -> finalizing | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart & !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder" 15:27:51 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 15:28:24 <PublicServer> *** Amm1er joined the game 15:28:26 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 15:28:27 <PublicServer> *** Sepp joined the game 15:28:47 <Ammler> !screen 15:28:47 <PublicServer> *** Ammler made screenshot at 000C846B : http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 15:28:57 <Ammler> yes :-) 15:29:19 <mitooo> \o/ :) 15:30:15 <Ammler> !screen 15:30:15 <PublicServer> *** Ammler made screenshot at 0007B65D : http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 15:31:29 <Ammler> so you work somewhere and someone is listening here, he just need to type screen :-) 15:31:43 <Ammler> !rcon set resolution 15:31:43 <PublicServer> Ammler: 'resolution' is an unknown setting. 15:32:16 <Ammler> !rcon set misc.resolution 15:32:16 <PublicServer> Ammler: 'misc.resolution' is an unknown setting. 15:32:33 <Ammler> you can't change resolution on a running game? 15:32:56 <Ammler> !screen 15:32:56 <PublicServer> *** Ammler made screenshot at 0007B647 : http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 15:33:19 <jondisti> what if there are 5 guys working 5 different locations? 15:33:24 <Ammler> Seppel: rebuilding at Sedingworth? 15:33:32 <Seppel> impressive 15:33:38 <PublicServer> <Sepp> just some prio work 15:34:14 <Ammler> jondisti: the last action before you type !screen 15:34:22 <Seppel> so ist luck who u get 15:34:27 <Seppel> its 15:34:29 <jondisti> ok... so better use that one only when it's quiet 15:34:39 <Ammler> why? 15:34:48 <Ammler> shouldn't matter 15:35:00 <mitooo> ... kinda shit that i can't join the game 15:35:06 <jondisti> !password 15:35:06 <PublicServer> jondisti: waxier 15:35:10 <Ammler> !screen 15:35:10 <PublicServer> *** Ammler made screenshot at 0007BE53 : http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 15:35:16 <PublicServer> *** jondisti joined the game 15:35:55 <jondisti> !screen 15:35:55 <PublicServer> *** jondisti made screenshot at 000114FD : http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 15:36:04 <Ammler> dear fellow members, is this feature useful? (needs another patch) 15:36:20 <jondisti> i wanted to show you what i'm doing but it took Seppel's work :( 15:36:32 <Ammler> he is busier :-P 15:36:39 <Seppel> didnt do anything i guess 15:36:43 <jondisti> so that's what i meant to use it only when it's quiet :P 15:36:51 <Ammler> !screen 15:36:51 <PublicServer> *** Ammler made screenshot at 000118FA : http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 15:36:58 <jondisti> that's me 15:37:28 <Ammler> where is the location you worked? the center? 15:37:39 <jondisti> just somewhere in north 15:37:47 <Ammler> I mean on the screen 15:38:03 <jondisti> not center 15:38:35 <jondisti> upper left corner or something 15:39:56 <jondisti> does the server know by who is last action made by? 15:40:34 <Ammler> yes. 15:40:47 <PublicServer> *** Amm1er has left the game (connection lost) 15:40:52 <Ammler> we have a log about every action from every single client 15:40:54 <jondisti> make it save like 10 last screen shots and put name on it 15:41:39 <jondisti> in the filename 15:43:19 <Ammler> gimme patch and I will :-) 15:43:59 <jondisti> i'm just a customer who wants better service :P 15:44:39 <Ammler> I have used the full support credits for this year already from Fuco ;-) 15:45:26 <jondisti> :) 15:45:37 <Ammler> Fuco: btw., I just defined the namespace like set ::location 15:45:50 <Ammler> and then used it with $::location 15:45:51 <Fuco> oh, cool 15:51:39 <Seppel> !screen 15:51:39 <PublicServer> *** Seppel made screenshot at 0007C37C : http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 15:52:31 <PublicServer> *** jondisti made screenshot at 0007BA51 : http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 15:52:38 *** Thorinbur has joined #openttdcoop 15:52:43 <Thorinbur> !players 15:52:44 <PublicServer> Thorinbur: Client 3 (Orange) is Sepp, in company 1 (Pile Transport 2.0) 15:52:44 <PublicServer> Thorinbur: Client 6 (Orange) is jondisti, in company 1 (Pile Transport 2.0) 15:53:02 <PublicServer> *** jondisti has changed his/her name to jond1sti 15:53:03 <kratt> pretty good 15:53:08 <kratt> it is working 15:53:13 <kratt> !password 15:53:13 <PublicServer> kratt: golfed 15:53:19 <Seppel> mhh is it kinda delayed ? 15:53:35 <jondisti> no 15:53:40 <jondisti> i moved a signal there :) 15:53:49 <Seppel> oh thats why xD 15:54:03 <Thorinbur> I am still optimistic... Maybe i will menage to stay! 15:54:11 <jondisti> i tried to PM that command and still it informed it here 15:54:13 <PublicServer> *** Thorinbur joined the game 15:54:17 *** Thorinbur has quit IRC 15:54:28 <PublicServer> <Sepp> oh i see the singal xD 15:54:42 *** V453000 has joined #openttdcoop 15:54:50 <PublicServer> *** kratt joined the game 15:55:21 <Ammler> !screen 15:55:21 <PublicServer> *** Ammler made screenshot at 0007BA51 : http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 15:55:31 <kratt> !screen 15:55:31 <PublicServer> *** kratt made screenshot at 0007BA51 : http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 15:55:50 <kratt> mhh 15:56:01 <kratt> i want to make screen where im looking 15:56:09 <Seppel> u have to build something 15:56:12 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Where is somthing happening? 15:56:12 <Ammler> then place I sign 15:56:26 <Ammler> or whatevery, just do a action 15:56:52 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> not here, in IRC :P 15:56:58 <kratt> !screen 15:56:58 <PublicServer> *** kratt made screenshot at 000AF5F7 : http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 15:57:10 <kratt> k its working 15:57:19 <kratt> but what happens when i make multiple things 15:57:28 <Ammler> what should happen? 15:57:32 <jondisti> last one is what matters 15:57:39 <PublicServer> <Sepp> last one still remains the last one ? xD 15:57:45 <V453000> why dont you use just the ctrl S 15:58:01 <Seppel> oO 15:58:15 <jondisti> V453000: that doesn't download it to any server automatically :( 15:58:17 <jondisti> upload! 15:58:29 <V453000> yeah but why do you need to upload such a screen 15:58:43 <Ammler> I should make the screens a bit bigger (800x600) 15:58:46 <Seppel> u can see what happens ingame without being there ? 15:58:47 <V453000> this doesnt show anything :) 15:58:55 <jondisti> <Ammler> so you work somewhere and someone is listening here, he just need to type screen :-) 15:58:58 <V453000> oh you mean in general probably 15:59:02 <V453000> ok whatever 15:59:11 <Ammler> jondisti: e.g. 15:59:30 <Thraxian|Work> Ammler: if you make bigger screenshots, can you keep the same camera angle in successive shots? 15:59:30 <Ammler> well, !screen is more a "debug" command 15:59:36 <PublicServer> *** Thorinbur has left the game (connection lost) 15:59:37 *** Thorinbur has joined #openttdcoop 15:59:44 <Ammler> Thraxian|Work: ? 16:00:06 <Thraxian|Work> like doing 800x600, divide the map into a bunch of 800x600 sections, and always center the camera onto the center tile of one of those sections 16:00:07 <Thorinbur> !screen 16:00:07 <PublicServer> *** Thorinbur made screenshot at 000F431A : http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 16:00:21 <PublicServer> *** kratt has left the game (leaving) 16:00:31 <kratt> laggy 16:00:32 *** weltende has joined #openttdcoop 16:00:32 *** welterde is now known as Guest60 16:00:33 *** weltende is now known as welterde 16:00:34 <Thraxian|Work> or is that a different project? 16:00:47 <Ammler> and disabling the news... 16:00:48 *** Guest60 has quit IRC 16:01:09 <Thraxian|Work> is there a way to screenshot and remove all GUI elements (toolbars, windows, etc)? 16:01:23 <Thorinbur> Interesting. 16:01:28 <Ammler> Thraxian|Work: you mean that: http://maps.openttdcoop.org/ps173.png#32736:16368:0 16:01:29 <Thraxian|Work> or do you want some of those elements displayed, for tutorial purposes perhaps 16:02:38 <Thraxian|Work> Ammler: kind of. If the map is composed of a bunch of 800x600 sectors, then the screen command would take a screenshot of one of those sectors 16:03:05 <Thraxian|Work> if it does it based on last construction, then figure out which sector the construction was done in, and screenshot that sector (using that sector's center coordinate as the center of the screenshot) 16:03:08 <Ammler> ah, you mean simplyfy the location coordinates? 16:03:28 <Thraxian|Work> I think so 16:03:52 <Ammler> so you can make a movie at the end with the screens? 16:03:52 <Thraxian|Work> if we divided the map into 100x100 sectors, screenshots would always be taken centered on coordinates ?50x?50 16:04:10 <Thraxian|Work> basically, yes. and if a sector doesn't change, it doesn't get a new screenshot 16:04:23 <Ammler> nice idea 16:04:25 <Thraxian|Work> = fewer maps = smaller size 16:04:37 <Thraxian|Work> best case, reduce sector size to 1x1 16:04:41 <Ammler> maybe it would be enough to make one screen per month 16:04:46 <Thraxian|Work> then you have TONS of images, but all very small 16:05:23 *** JamesG has joined #openttdcoop 16:05:26 <Ammler> BUT YES, this is another project :-) 16:05:32 <Thraxian|Work> I figured as much :) 16:06:11 <Ammler> we will soon update to Avignon, maybe Osai can make us such a plugin ;-) 16:06:53 *** Intexon has joined #openttdcoop 16:07:39 <Ammler> !screen is nice :-) 16:07:39 <PublicServer> *** Ammler made screenshot at 00077659 : http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 16:07:44 <mitooo> what is avignon, but a french city? 16:08:03 <planetmaker> !screen 16:08:03 <PublicServer> *** planetmaker made screenshot at 00077659 : http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 16:08:23 <planetmaker> hm... how is the centre tile determined? 16:08:49 <Ammler> it does "scrollto 0x$::lastactionlocation" 16:08:57 <Ammler> then "screenshot" 16:09:20 <planetmaker> can I set a tile? 16:09:28 <Ammler> so last action is the upper left corner, afaik 16:09:30 <planetmaker> in the command? 16:09:30 <Chris_Booth> Ammler: turn the news off 16:09:33 <Chris_Booth> that is annoying 16:09:41 <planetmaker> and Chris is right ;-) 16:10:11 <Ammler> planetmaker: I could make that as a parameter for the custom command 16:10:57 <Ammler> and we should have a formula to calculate the location so last action is the center of the image 16:11:24 <planetmaker> isn't it now the centre of the image? 16:11:34 <Ammler> [17:09] <Ammler> so last action is the upper left corner, afaik 16:11:44 *** sietse has joined #openttdcoop 16:11:58 <Ammler> planetmaker: it is how scrollto works on your local maschine 16:11:59 <planetmaker> oh, thx :-P 16:14:21 <PublicServer> *** Sepp has left the game (leaving) 16:14:22 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 16:16:05 *** Intexon has quit IRC 16:17:07 <Ammler> !screen 16:19:16 <Ammler> !screen 16:19:16 <PublicServer> *** Ammler made screenshot at 0002B226 : http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 16:19:20 <Ammler> !screen 16:19:20 <PublicServer> *** Ammler liked to make screenshot of last action, but nobody was working since. (http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png) 16:21:37 *** JamesG has quit IRC 16:22:21 *** Thorinbur has quit IRC 16:22:44 <Ammler> !screen 16:22:44 <PublicServer> *** Ammler liked to make screenshot of last action, but nobody was working since. (http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png) 16:23:35 <Ammler> he, if no action is taken, it could switch to another sign maybe? 16:24:30 <Ammler> a command like "scrolltosign *BBH01*" would be nice 16:25:40 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop 16:25:40 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 16:27:12 <Ammler> ähm, shall we archive the game and start a new one? 16:27:26 <jondisti> yes 16:27:40 <PublicServer> *** jond1sti has left the game (leaving) 16:33:11 *** Phazorx has joined #openttdcoop 16:35:08 <Ammler> jondisti: the game like it is now, can we archive it? 16:35:10 <Ammler> no issues? 16:35:45 <Ammler> any need for updating openttd? 16:36:15 <mitooo> what is meaning "upgrading openttd"? 16:36:22 <Ammler> newest nightly 16:36:31 <V453000> I doubt updating would change the lag issues 16:36:38 <Ammler> lag issue? 16:36:45 <Phazorx> lag issue? 16:36:58 <V453000> it happens quite often lately that people have lag 16:37:18 <V453000> they disconnect, rarely synchronization fails ... 16:37:33 <V453000> last game was also very laggy 16:38:07 <KenjiE20> Ammler: update anyway 16:38:29 <KenjiE20> always better if we find bugs 16:38:50 <V453000> :) 16:39:05 <mitooo> v453000: is your internet connexion fast? 16:39:46 * planetmaker seconds KenjiE20 16:40:02 <planetmaker> (is that correct English?) 16:40:21 <planetmaker> or would it have to read "backs up" or alike? 16:40:39 <V453000> mitoo: about 60-80 Mbit 16:41:01 <V453000> mitoo: not now though ... I am at home for now on wifi ... and that sucks 16:41:51 <mitooo> and your pc? 16:42:03 <Ammler> !transfer 16:42:03 <PublicServer> Ammler: !transfer gamenr save: transfer the save to our web 16:42:07 <Ammler> !save 16:42:07 <PublicServer> Saving game... 16:42:09 <PublicServer> Game saved 16:42:18 <Ammler> !transfer 173 game.sav 16:42:21 <PublicServer> Ammler: PublicServerGame_173_Final.sav 16:42:21 <PublicServer> Ammler: Transfer done. (/home/openttd/website/public/save/game.sav->http://www.openttdcoop.org//files/PublicServer_archive/PublicServerGame_173_Final.sav) 16:42:26 <Ammler> !archive 16:42:27 <PublicServer> Ammler: http://www.openttdcoop.ORG/wiki/PublicServer:Archive | http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/ProZone:Archive | http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/MemberZone:Archive 16:42:30 <V453000> :) 16:42:36 <Ammler> could someone make the archive entry ^? 16:42:49 <KenjiE20> was done last night 16:42:52 <V453000> it is already made 16:43:05 <Ammler> hehe, you guys :-) 16:43:14 <KenjiE20> pm, seconds is valid 16:44:35 <PublicServer> Server closed down by admin 16:44:38 <PublicServer> Server has exited 16:44:39 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 16:45:29 <V453000> wow we havent had a PAX game since 164 16:45:49 <KenjiE20> no one made a good pax plan since then 16:45:57 <KenjiE20> apparently 16:45:58 <V453000> :) 16:46:04 <V453000> true 16:46:39 <planetmaker> :-) ty, KenjiE20 16:46:48 <KenjiE20> @setpsg 174 16:46:48 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #174 (r18867) | STAGE: No clients left -> finalizing | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart & !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder" 16:46:56 <KenjiE20> @stage Planning 16:46:56 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #174 (r18867) | STAGE: Planning | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart & !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder" 16:47:06 <KenjiE20> dumdedum 16:48:50 *** JamesG has joined #openttdcoop 16:49:11 <JamesG> Hi 16:49:33 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 16:49:33 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 16:49:33 <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)' 16:49:33 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #174 (r18927) | STAGE: Planning | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart & !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder" 16:49:34 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 16:49:39 <mitooo> hey :) 16:49:53 <JamesG> !download lin 16:49:54 <PublicServer> JamesG: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r18927/openttd-trunk-r18927-linux-generic-i686.tar.bz2 16:50:05 <PublicServer> *** Amm1er joined the game 16:50:07 * KenjiE20 sings the compiling song 16:50:16 <Ammler> !screen 16:50:20 <Ammler> hmm 16:50:25 <JamesG> I'm not bothering to compile this time 16:50:36 <KenjiE20> !rcon screenshot 16:50:36 <JamesG> Do you use a new version of OpenTTD every game? 16:50:43 <Ammler> no action at all :-P 16:50:45 <KenjiE20> normally 16:51:04 <Ammler> !screen 16:51:04 <PublicServer> *** Ammler made screenshot at 00003609 : http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 16:51:16 <KenjiE20> that made it work 16:51:43 <JamesG> Which GRFs do I need? 16:51:52 <KenjiE20> @quickstart 16:51:54 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 16:51:55 <JamesG> Thanks 16:52:03 <KenjiE20> I probably shouldn't bother with make clean each time 16:52:08 <KenjiE20> but it's good habit 16:52:24 <Ammler> you watched me? 16:52:37 <KenjiE20> what? 16:52:49 <Ammler> nvm :-) 16:52:54 <Ammler> make clean 16:53:18 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 16:53:18 <PublicServer> *** Kenji joined the game 16:53:35 <Ammler> !autostart does its job just fine :-) 16:53:35 <PublicServer> Ammler: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Autostart 16:53:46 <KenjiE20> lol 16:53:54 <PublicServer> *** jond1sti joined the game 16:54:23 <Ammler> oh indeed, out of date a bit :-) 16:54:44 <Ammler> well, the wiki is, the script had just recently a update 16:55:26 <mitooo> !password 16:55:27 <PublicServer> mitooo: taxied 16:55:43 <PublicServer> *** Mitooo joined the game 16:55:46 <Ammler> !screen 16:55:46 <PublicServer> *** Ammler made screenshot at 0001FF44 : http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 16:56:04 <Ammler> someone is buiding MM :-) 16:56:06 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 16:56:10 <PublicServer> <Kenji> that'd be me 16:56:15 <PublicServer> <Kenji> ti's running 16:56:18 <PublicServer> <Kenji> i 16:56:21 <PublicServer> <Kenji> tis 16:56:23 <PublicServer> <Kenji> >_> 16:56:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> :PP 16:56:43 <PublicServer> *** jond1sti has left the game (leaving) 16:56:53 <JamesG> !password 16:56:53 <PublicServer> JamesG: taxied 16:56:56 <Ammler> oh majonaise, we need to update the base set on this server 16:57:01 <PublicServer> *** James joined the game 16:57:11 *** highpinger2 has joined #openttdcoop 16:57:12 <PublicServer> <Kenji> heh, the new variety system is nice for plains and valleys 16:57:29 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> variety? 16:57:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> Kenji: yeah very nice 16:57:38 <PublicServer> <Kenji> in new game 16:57:39 <PublicServer> <James> Nice map 16:59:11 <PublicServer> <Kenji> syncro'd landing :) 16:59:23 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> newgrf setup looks well done ;-) 17:00:32 <KenjiE20> !setdef 17:00:32 <PublicServer> *** KenjiE20 has disabled wait_for_pbs_path, wait_twoway_signal, wait_oneway_signal, ai_in_multiplayer enabled no_servicing_if_no_breakdowns, extra_dynamite, mod_road_rebuild, forbid_90_deg and set path_backoff_interval to 1, train_acceleration_model to 1 17:00:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> DB set is just the best :) 17:00:35 <Ammler> let me run it again, just for fun... 17:00:39 <Ammler> !screen 17:00:40 <PublicServer> *** Ammler liked to make screenshot of last action, but nobody was working since. (http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png) 17:00:46 <KenjiE20> :D 17:00:49 <Ammler> oh, you LAZY GUYS 17:00:55 <KenjiE20> 159 grand 17:01:07 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 17:01:07 <KenjiE20> need 280, then two more jets 17:01:10 <planetmaker> nice. Now without news message :-) 17:01:21 <Ammler> and bigger :-) 17:01:29 <planetmaker> yeah. Also good 17:02:31 <planetmaker> Ammler, why the heck does the screenshot use original graphics?! 17:02:38 <KenjiE20> why not? 17:02:44 <planetmaker> wrong base set. 17:02:45 <Ammler> [17:56] <Ammler> oh majonaise, we need to update the base set on this server 17:02:55 <Ammler> :-D 17:03:05 <planetmaker> :-) 17:03:11 <KenjiE20> pfft, right base set :P 17:03:14 * planetmaker is obviously bad at reading back 17:03:25 <KenjiE20> pm, make comic set a base set >:D 17:03:35 <planetmaker> pffft 17:03:36 <Ammler> ah indeed 17:03:37 *** highpinger has quit IRC 17:03:45 <Ammler> toyland game is still pending... 17:04:01 <planetmaker> I started... and... well... have it low-priority on my to-do-list 17:04:23 <planetmaker> but seeing that obviously people don't use new base sets anyway, there's no point to continue :-P 17:04:46 <KenjiE20> I'd swap between comic and original plenty 17:04:56 <planetmaker> too bad 17:04:59 <PublicServer> <Kenji> loan gone 17:05:04 <KenjiE20> grr 17:05:17 <Ammler> !screen 17:05:17 <PublicServer> *** Ammler liked to make screenshot of last action, but nobody was working since. (http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png) 17:05:40 <KenjiE20> heh, bought the latest jet in the last depot 17:05:55 <Ammler> ah buying has no tile: 17:06:40 <Ammler> no phoenix here 17:07:12 <Ammler> he could make a script with mirc to issue !screen every now and then 17:07:44 <KenjiE20> hm 17:07:50 <KenjiE20> !rcon set breakdowns 0 17:07:50 <PublicServer> KenjiE20: 'breakdowns' is an unknown setting. 17:07:54 <KenjiE20> >_> 17:08:13 * KenjiE20 wonders why that's even on in this cfg 17:09:04 <planetmaker> !rcon set vehicle_breakdowns 0 17:09:06 <planetmaker> :-) 17:09:10 <planetmaker> that's in my cfg 17:09:17 <KenjiE20> ta 17:09:39 <mitooo> does everyone know why, when i close a openttd window (on linux), it won't close normally? 17:09:47 <PublicServer> <Kenji> anyway 6 jets running, should be enough for MM 17:09:59 <planetmaker> mitooo, abnormal installation? 17:10:03 <PublicServer> <Kenji> because your distro is odd? 17:10:07 <Ammler> ubuntu? 17:10:14 <mitooo> ammler: yp 17:10:18 <mitooo> yep* 17:10:23 <PublicServer> <James> I get problems closing the window sometimes 17:10:24 <planetmaker> crystal balls seem to be quite clear today... 17:10:28 <Ammler> (as KenjiE20 said) 17:10:41 <Ammler> it has some sound issues.... 17:10:42 <mitooo> planet: just using .deb 17:10:57 <Ammler> you should use the generic files, afaik 17:11:05 <planetmaker> ... especially concerning "your 'does not work' or 'odd' translating to normal, descriptive language 17:11:18 <Ammler> !dl lin 17:11:18 <PublicServer> Ammler: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r18927/openttd-trunk-r18927-linux-generic-i686.tar.bz2 17:11:28 <Chris_Booth> !password 17:11:28 <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: vetoed 17:11:28 <Ammler> mitooo: try with those ^ 17:11:48 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 17:11:50 <planetmaker> too bad, Chris_Booth :-P 17:11:55 <planetmaker> the server vetoed :-P 17:12:04 <Ammler> !screen 17:12:04 <PublicServer> *** Ammler liked to make screenshot of last action, but nobody was working since. (http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png) 17:12:06 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i know i cant join 17:12:07 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> lol 17:12:12 <Ammler> menno :'-( 17:12:21 <planetmaker> do something now, Chris_Booth 17:12:26 <Ammler> :-D 17:12:26 <planetmaker> or Ammler will start to cry 17:12:29 <PublicServer> <James> Can I make a plan? 17:12:32 <planetmaker> JamesG, sure 17:12:34 <Ammler> YES! 17:12:39 <PublicServer> <Kenji> that's why the sign is there 17:13:04 <planetmaker> !screen 17:13:04 <PublicServer> *** planetmaker made screenshot at 0001E02E : http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 17:13:10 <planetmaker> hehe ^ :-) 17:13:15 <KenjiE20> :) 17:13:20 <Ammler> hmm 17:13:27 <KenjiE20> !screen 17:13:27 <PublicServer> *** KenjiE20 made screenshot at 0001D823 : http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 17:13:28 <Chris_Booth> Screen 17:13:37 <KenjiE20> what the? 17:13:38 <Ammler> [17:55] <PublicServer> *** Ammler made screenshot at 0001FF44 : http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 17:13:42 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> lolage 17:13:43 <planetmaker> ehm... 17:13:57 <planetmaker> wtf?! 17:14:01 <Chris_Booth> !screen 17:14:01 <PublicServer> *** Chris_Booth made screenshot at 00003A2B : http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 17:14:12 <planetmaker> ah... nicer :-) 17:14:14 <Chris_Booth> i did something 17:14:20 <Chris_Booth> i wrote ammler 17:14:29 <planetmaker> omg... 17:14:58 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> PM dont worry was i joke i didnt TF 17:15:01 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and its gone now 17:15:16 <planetmaker> it didn't fit on the screen! :-P 17:15:42 <planetmaker> !screen 17:15:42 <PublicServer> *** planetmaker made screenshot at 00003E25 : http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 17:16:12 <planetmaker> uh... did the sign !! NETWORK PLANS!! got removed? 17:16:17 <KenjiE20> I moved it 17:16:20 <planetmaker> aye 17:16:32 <KenjiE20> I shifted it up a bit 17:16:39 <planetmaker> this screen feature is awesome :-) 17:16:43 <planetmaker> !screen 17:16:43 <PublicServer> *** planetmaker made screenshot at 00005638 : http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 17:16:44 <Ammler> hehe, pm is offline watching now 17:16:51 <planetmaker> yeah 17:16:52 <KenjiE20> pm will never join now 17:16:59 <planetmaker> :-D 17:17:11 <planetmaker> I should write... 17:17:27 <planetmaker> I didn't reach my daily quota today... 17:17:54 <XeryusTC> !password 17:17:54 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: vetoed 17:18:08 <PublicServer> <Kenji> just a thought James 17:18:10 <XeryusTC> hmm 17:18:18 <PublicServer> <Kenji> while sprawling combined lines are fun offline 17:18:21 <XeryusTC> pile transport 2 has already finished? 17:18:25 <PublicServer> <Kenji> it'll never work on PS 17:18:33 <dexter311> !password 17:18:33 <PublicServer> dexter311: vetoed 17:19:07 <dexter311> !dl 17:19:07 <PublicServer> dexter311: !dl autostart|autottd|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x 17:19:10 <Ammler> XeryusTC: too heavy already for some clients 17:19:17 <dexter311> !dl win32 17:19:17 <PublicServer> dexter311: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r18927/openttd-trunk-r18927-windows-win32.zip 17:19:24 <XeryusTC> Ammler: could've told you that in advance :P 17:19:29 <PublicServer> <James> So, the network should be more modular? 17:19:51 <Ammler> well, you know, feel free to grap it from archive :-P 17:19:58 <PublicServer> <Kenji> pre-planned, that's sort of the idea 17:20:16 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ok i have my plan 17:20:17 *** pryot has joined #openttdcoop 17:20:17 <PublicServer> <Kenji> sprawling lines tends to be part of B2B 17:20:19 <Ammler> !screen 17:20:19 <PublicServer> *** Ammler made screenshot at 0000522D : http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 17:20:24 <dexter311> XeryusTC: yeah that game was waaay too big 17:20:34 <dexter311> brought my computer to a standstill 17:20:51 <Chris_Booth> !screen 17:20:51 <PublicServer> *** Chris_Booth made screenshot at 00006A3B : http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 17:21:10 *** pryot has quit IRC 17:21:15 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> we have a winning plan (mine) 17:21:17 <KenjiE20> @post PSG 174 in planning, come make a plan 17:21:18 <Webster> KenjiE20: Posted. 17:21:19 <Ammler> XeryusTC: maybe we should make a NPF game ;-) 17:21:21 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> organised chaos 17:21:26 <Ammler> so we could reach 3k trains 17:21:26 <XeryusTC> why does PublicServer keep coming up with the same screenshot? or is it bad cache :P 17:21:45 <Ammler> XeryusTC: f5 17:21:54 <KenjiE20> lol 17:22:13 <Chris_Booth> !screen 17:22:13 <PublicServer> *** Chris_Booth made screenshot at 0000941F : http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 17:22:23 <planetmaker> lool :-) 17:22:28 <Chris_Booth> XeryusTC: now we have a new screeny 17:22:39 <PublicServer> <James> Will town passenger stations be on the main lines? 17:22:41 <planetmaker> are there no trees or are they invisible? 17:22:45 <KenjiE20> !screen 17:22:45 <PublicServer> *** KenjiE20 made screenshot at 0001D18C : http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 17:22:51 <KenjiE20> aw 17:22:52 <Ammler> planetmaker: they will grow... 17:22:59 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> james in my plan no 17:23:04 <KenjiE20> !screen 17:23:04 <PublicServer> *** KenjiE20 made screenshot at 0001E190 : http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 17:23:08 <Ammler> should be enabled 17:23:28 * Chris_Booth runs from KenjiE20 dragons 17:23:32 <PublicServer> <James> How do passengers get to the main lines? 17:23:39 <PublicServer> <James> Oh 17:23:42 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> via SLH 17:23:51 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> as with good games 17:24:03 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and then add train to station with most pax waiting 17:24:06 <dexter311> !password 17:24:06 <PublicServer> dexter311: aisles 17:24:14 <PublicServer> *** dexter311 joined the game 17:24:22 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> 'i said boom boom let me hear you say way-oh' 17:24:31 <planetmaker> !screen 17:24:31 <PublicServer> *** planetmaker made screenshot at 00014050 : http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 17:24:37 <KenjiE20> !screen 17:24:37 <PublicServer> *** KenjiE20 liked to make screenshot of last action, but nobody was working since. (http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png) 17:24:45 <planetmaker> :-D 17:24:52 <dexter311> "way-oh!" 17:24:55 <dexter311> lol 17:24:55 <KenjiE20> !screen 17:24:55 <PublicServer> *** KenjiE20 liked to make screenshot of last action, but nobody was working since. (http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png) 17:25:02 <KenjiE20> boo 17:25:04 <Ammler> oh, not that private chat anymore ;-) 17:25:13 <KenjiE20> boo 17:25:16 <KenjiE20> !screen 17:25:16 <PublicServer> *** KenjiE20 liked to make screenshot of last action, but nobody was working since. (http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png) 17:25:23 <planetmaker> lool. True, Ammler :-) 17:25:35 <KenjiE20> !screen 17:25:36 <PublicServer> *** KenjiE20 made screenshot at 00014451 : http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 17:25:38 <KenjiE20> grr 17:25:50 <Chris_Booth> KenjiE20: i think we get the idea now 17:26:02 <Ammler> no, never use the !screen 17:26:02 <planetmaker> is it again a original terrain generator landscape? 17:26:05 <KenjiE20> silly thing would re snap 17:26:15 <KenjiE20> nope, TG + variety 17:26:17 <Ammler> oh, the comma should be after never 17:26:31 <planetmaker> ah... ok 17:26:41 <Ammler> the map looks fine zoomed out 17:26:42 *** pugi has quit IRC 17:26:52 <dexter311> interesting map... I like it 17:26:55 <Chris_Booth> Ammler: depends what you want to say 17:27:10 <PublicServer> *** Kenji has left the game (leaving) 17:27:18 <PublicServer> <James> Will every city have an SLH, or will there be branch lines connecting several cities? 17:27:18 <Chris_Booth> never use the !screen or no never, use the !screen 17:27:24 <Chris_Booth> the second means use it more 17:27:30 <Chris_Booth> the first means dont use it 17:27:36 <Ammler> yes :-) 17:27:52 <Ammler> I want you to use it much 17:27:54 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> James: 1 SLH lots of citys 17:27:56 * KenjiE20 noms booth's screen 17:28:03 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> like with cargo game 17:28:12 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> pax will be treated like cargo 17:28:27 <PublicServer> <James> Ok, I did that once before with a cargo game 17:28:39 <Chris_Booth> KenjiE20: why my screen? 17:28:51 <KenjiE20> why not? 17:29:07 <Chris_Booth> !screen 17:29:07 <PublicServer> *** Chris_Booth made screenshot at 0003F7FD : http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 17:29:11 <Chris_Booth> thats why KenjiE20 17:29:13 <Chris_Booth> lol 17:29:34 <Chris_Booth> its to slow updating this rubish patch 17:29:37 <Chris_Booth> !screen 17:29:37 <PublicServer> *** Chris_Booth liked to make screenshot of last action, but nobody was working since. (http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png) 17:30:17 <Chris_Booth> !screen 17:30:17 <PublicServer> *** Chris_Booth made screenshot at 0003E7FE : http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 17:31:46 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> James: arent you making your plan? 17:32:16 <PublicServer> <James> Someone said it wouldn't work well in this sort of game 17:32:32 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> why wont it work? 17:32:45 <PublicServer> <James> Too difficult to manage with lots of players, I think 17:32:48 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> just need to use same speed loco 17:32:55 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no it would be fine 17:33:04 <KenjiE20> not lots of players 17:33:08 <PublicServer> <James> Maybe we could have a central main line, with slow and fast lanes 17:33:08 <KenjiE20> random players 17:33:30 <PublicServer> <James> Then lots of SLHs for both passengers and freight 17:33:51 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> James: if you make a plan it need to be easy to read 17:34:33 *** Zino has joined #openttdcoop 17:34:43 *** Zino is now known as Boyinblue0 17:34:48 <PublicServer> <James> I'll redraw it 17:35:12 <Boyinblue0> Hi all :) 17:35:28 <planetmaker> hello one ;-) 17:35:40 <Boyinblue0> How is everyone? 17:35:45 <Chris_Booth> blue 17:35:48 <planetmaker> hungry 17:36:04 <Ammler> !screen -y 17:36:04 <PublicServer> *** Ammler made screenshot at 0000122B : http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 17:36:09 <Boyinblue0> haha :p 17:36:18 <planetmaker> -y ? 17:37:17 <Ammler> !screen does ignore all parameters, yet. 17:37:17 <PublicServer> *** Ammler made screenshot at 00005A26 : http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 17:37:54 <Ammler> well, we could setup !screen <nick> 17:37:58 <Webster> Latest update from blog: Webcam on PublicServer <http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2010/01/28/webcam-on-publicserver/> 17:40:03 <PublicServer> <James> The train in a train bug! 17:40:16 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> 90deg allowed? 17:40:29 <planetmaker> :-O 17:40:37 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> lol its the bug Amm1er 17:41:05 <Ammler> Chris_Booth: "the bug"? 17:41:36 <planetmaker> !screen 17:41:36 <PublicServer> *** planetmaker made screenshot at 00005E25 : http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 17:41:38 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> the if the train is longer than the signal block it will ignor everything bug 17:42:02 <Boyinblue0> !revision win32 17:42:02 <PublicServer> Boyinblue0: Game version is r18927 17:42:08 <Boyinblue0> !dwin 32 17:42:15 <planetmaker> !dl win32 17:42:15 <Boyinblue0> !dwin32 17:42:15 <PublicServer> planetmaker: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r18927/openttd-trunk-r18927-windows-win32.zip 17:42:22 <Boyinblue0> ty :P 17:42:43 <planetmaker> :-) 17:42:56 <planetmaker> Chris_Booth, it's just that trains can pass through themselves. 17:43:21 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> pm and the ignor the no 90 deg truns rule 17:43:32 <KenjiE20> Ammler: could you make that shot on the blog 60% or something? 17:43:54 <KenjiE20> 800 wide tends to push stuff around 17:43:57 <PublicServer> <James> The never ending train ended 17:44:19 *** Boyinblue0 is now known as Boy|Dinner 17:44:23 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> Amm1er: how did you make the trains the could never be removed? 17:44:23 <Boy|Dinner> brb :) 17:46:50 <planetmaker> Chris_Booth, they were born that way, created by divine intervention ;-) 17:47:17 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> lol 17:47:36 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> when i try to make one it doesnt work 17:48:18 *** Polygon has joined #openttdcoop 17:48:47 <planetmaker> I *think* the key is proper timing... and creating it on a separate track and removing access to the final one 17:49:03 *** Kenix has joined #openttdcoop 17:50:09 <Ammler> Chris_Booth: I can't show you, else you are able to remove it ;-) 17:50:40 *** bartavelle is now known as bartaway 17:50:41 <Ammler> or maybe not, dunno anymore 17:50:58 <PublicServer> <James> What is the max train length? 17:51:04 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i think i have got it 17:51:09 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> 64 17:51:20 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> as that it max platform length 17:52:47 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i am such an idiot 17:53:06 <PublicServer> <James> Is there a problem putting stations on the main line? 17:53:18 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> they can jam the main line 17:53:36 <PublicServer> <James> Not if the entry tracks are short 17:53:41 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and what if a train doesnt want to stop there? 17:53:49 <PublicServer> <James> It goes straight through 17:54:31 *** Yexo has quit IRC 17:54:34 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ha i think i have the unremovedavle train back 17:54:49 *** Yexo has joined #openttdcoop 17:56:05 <PublicServer> *** Thraxian joined the game 17:57:33 <PublicServer> *** Thraxian has joined company #1 17:57:50 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> Thraxian: :'( 17:58:05 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> why do you have to be so immature and build that crap? 17:58:19 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> why not? 17:58:40 <PublicServer> <James> Look at Mainline station 17:58:49 <PublicServer> <James> Would that work? 17:58:58 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> Thraxian: i will remove it 17:59:03 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i am not that much or an idiot 17:59:03 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> whatever.... 17:59:27 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> there you go its gone 17:59:53 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> mainline station might work - but you typically want 6 platforms per line to be able to handle capacity 18:00:14 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> Thraxian: i left an exit so i could remove it 18:00:21 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and whats the big issue? 18:00:29 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no one else cares 18:00:39 <PublicServer> <James> Also works so that fast trains are disrupted less having to change tracks 18:00:40 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> and you may need pre- and exit- signals to prevent trains from waiting for a full platform 18:00:45 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> or at least 2-way signals at entrance 18:01:02 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> or PBS 18:01:17 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> James: its best not to have station dricetly on the ML though 18:01:27 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> as they are proned to jamming 18:01:40 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and have no way to bypass them if trains dont want to visit the station 18:03:42 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> Chris Booth: don't you have enough 4way BBHs? 18:04:35 <jondisti> !password 18:04:36 <PublicServer> jondisti: awning 18:04:46 <PublicServer> *** jond1sti joined the game 18:04:53 <devilsadvocate> whats a BBH / SLH? 18:05:06 <jondisti> @quickstart 18:05:09 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 18:05:42 <kratt> !dl win32 18:05:42 <PublicServer> kratt: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r18927/openttd-trunk-r18927-windows-win32.zip 18:05:54 <KenjiE20> @bbh 18:05:54 <Webster> bbh: Back Bone Hub, see also: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Backbone_Hub 18:05:56 <KenjiE20> @slh 18:05:56 <Webster> slh: Sideline Hub, see also: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Sideline_Hub 18:06:57 <PublicServer> *** kratt joined the game 18:07:31 <PublicServer> <kratt> 5 BBHs only? 18:07:38 <PublicServer> <kratt> o not so big map :D 18:07:43 <PublicServer> <James> My plan would have 0 18:08:03 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> kratt: 4 3ways and a 4 way is enough for this map 18:08:09 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> i don't know if "only" is right word to use :P 18:08:55 <PublicServer> <kratt> so which plan 18:08:58 <PublicServer> <kratt> chris or james 18:09:09 <PublicServer> <James> I'm going to eat, I vote for my plan 18:09:13 <PublicServer> *** James has left the game (leaving) 18:09:18 <KenjiE20> well obviously -_- 18:09:30 <PublicServer> <kratt> well, i wish to see many BBHs 18:09:33 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> kratt: if anyone votes for James plan i will slap them so harc 18:09:36 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> hard 18:09:48 <KenjiE20> how about mystery nth plan? 18:09:50 <PublicServer> <kratt> well that sounds like ganster talk 18:10:09 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i will also slap there b**ch up 18:10:11 * Thraxian|Work would vote for James' plan before Booth's 18:10:15 <PublicServer> <dexter311> well since I don't really understand james' plan I'll have to go with chris 18:10:19 <PublicServer> <kratt> i like yours chris 18:10:20 <PublicServer> <kratt> TL5 18:10:31 * Thraxian|Work prefers straight-line MLs than lots of loops, half of which will never be used 18:10:32 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> Thraxian: what are you doing? 18:10:55 <Thraxian|Work> Chris_Booth: apparently getting ready for me and my b**ch to get slapped up 18:11:00 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> Thraxian: James want to buil stations on busy MLs with bypassing them 18:11:03 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> that is crazy 18:11:33 <Thraxian|Work> we've done it before. recently, in fact. 18:11:58 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> an mixing Pax and Cargo 18:12:03 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and train speeds 18:12:10 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> its just going to end up a mess 18:12:29 <Thraxian|Work> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/PublicServer:Archive_-_Games_151_-_160#gameid_159 18:12:45 <Thraxian|Work> that one was cargo only, but it included mainline stations 18:12:54 <Thraxian|Work> and I hought we added pax to it late-game 18:12:57 <Thraxian|Work> *thought 18:13:12 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> Thraxian: you obviously dont like my plan, or me so just go vote for what ever stupid plan you want to vote for 18:13:33 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> thrax 1 central 4 track ML 18:13:40 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> inner lines for fast trains 18:13:48 <Thraxian|Work> I don't like your plan because I'm not a fan of making grid-style MLs. It always ends up with some routes getting backed up, and some not being used at all 18:13:53 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> so using them for pax i assume 18:14:15 <Thraxian|Work> and I have no problem with you either. I think your attitude just rubs me the wrong way 18:14:19 *** JamesG has quit IRC 18:14:36 <Chris_Booth> Thraxian|Work: also using a reference to the worst game ever 18:15:17 *** Zulan has joined #openttdcoop 18:16:47 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> also Thraxianif you read my plan you may think differently about it 18:16:52 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but its you choice 18:17:21 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has joined spectators 18:17:33 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (leaving) 18:17:37 <PublicServer> <kratt> chris your plan HAS 5 BBHs or MSHs? 18:17:48 <Chris_Booth> 5 BBHs 18:17:53 <Chris_Booth> and MSHs 18:17:57 <PublicServer> <kratt> k 18:17:58 <Chris_Booth> the rest is all SLH 18:18:04 <Chris_Booth> which will be dynamice 18:18:09 <Chris_Booth> dynamic 18:18:13 <PublicServer> <kratt> 1 4 way BBH 18:18:15 <Chris_Booth> and grow during the game 18:18:18 <Chris_Booth> yeah 18:18:20 <PublicServer> <kratt> and 4 3 way BBH 18:18:26 <Chris_Booth> all mls are LR to start with 18:18:36 <PublicServer> <kratt> Its fine by me 18:18:57 <PublicServer> <kratt> ill vote for u Chris 18:19:04 <Chris_Booth> no voting yet anyway 18:19:09 <Chris_Booth> just planing 18:19:10 <PublicServer> <kratt> kk 18:19:12 <Chris_Booth> we need more plans 18:19:22 <PublicServer> <kratt> ye. I think now your plan best 18:19:55 <Chris_Booth> my plan is pax only 18:21:07 <PublicServer> *** Thraxian has joined spectators 18:22:05 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> since when does the water "pulse" on the furthest zoom setting? 18:22:16 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> it looks very unusual.... 18:22:29 <PublicServer> <dexter311> yeah tis a bit weird... 18:22:31 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> i've seen that before 18:22:46 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> it's not a new feature 18:22:58 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> I especially like the "waves" - the entire lake has waves at the same time 18:22:59 <PublicServer> *** jond1sti has left the game (leaving) 18:23:14 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> I always thought the moon caused bodies of water to "rock" back and forth 18:23:25 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> so the north shore and the south shore would alternate waves as the water sloshed around 18:26:09 <planetmaker> uh @ Thraxian|Work ? 18:26:32 *** Phoenix_the_II has joined #openttdcoop 18:26:32 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Phoenix_the_II 18:27:06 *** JamesG has joined #openttdcoop 18:27:11 <JamesG> !password 18:27:11 <PublicServer> JamesG: balked 18:27:42 <PublicServer> *** James joined the game 18:32:19 <Phoenix_the_II> !screen 18:32:19 <PublicServer> *** Phoenix_the_II made screenshot at 00000E2C : http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 18:32:36 <Phoenix_the_II> pewpewpew 18:33:07 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> hehe :-) 18:34:33 <PublicServer> *** liked to make screenshot of last action, but nobody was working since. (http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png) 18:36:34 *** Boy|Dinner is now known as Boyinblue0 18:36:40 <PublicServer> <James> When do we vote on the plans? 18:36:48 <KenjiE20> @quickstart 18:36:50 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 18:37:33 <planetmaker> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/724#note-6 <-- what do you actually think about that, Ammler ? 18:37:49 <planetmaker> I actually feel like comitting the x as the stop symbol... 18:38:43 <Ammler> it is the better proposal indeed 18:39:22 <Ammler> fast done :-) 18:39:42 <planetmaker> yeah. Felt yesterday night like "that's a quick job done... maybe" ;-) 18:40:07 *** AdTheRat has joined #openttdcoop 18:41:06 * Ammler just wonders, if that is the only place, where a color blind guy has issues. 18:41:23 * planetmaker has no idea either. But he might has said so... 18:41:59 <Ammler> I mean the whole signalling 18:42:13 <planetmaker> yes. But there the position of the light changes. 18:42:26 <planetmaker> Signals are hard to discern anyway as they're currently made 18:42:28 <PublicServer> <James> I find the buttons are too small, especially when using a laptop 18:42:42 <planetmaker> JamesG, that's something currently not easily changed. 18:42:59 <planetmaker> For sure it's on some to-do lists. But don't expect a fast solution. 18:43:01 <Ammler> but I guss, "they" are working on that... 18:43:16 <planetmaker> Graphics zoom for that would need code support within OpenTTD. 18:43:36 <planetmaker> Getting larger sprites... I guess that should then relatively easily be possible for the GUI elements. 18:43:54 <planetmaker> "relativ" ;-) 18:43:57 <planetmaker> +e 18:44:09 <planetmaker> It's only about 100 sprites, though 18:44:23 <PublicServer> <James> Just make the start and stop buttons the same size as the selling buttons 18:44:59 <planetmaker> That'd blow up the whole status bar at the bottom of the windows. 18:45:11 <planetmaker> The solution is only to zoom all GUI sprites. 18:45:12 <planetmaker> IMO 18:45:19 <Ammler> planetmaker: couldn't you make the size bigger and it would make the window automatically bigger too? 18:45:26 <planetmaker> Ammler, yes, it would 18:45:52 <planetmaker> But then the engine / rv / airplane / ship symbols would need adjustment 18:46:00 <planetmaker> the window re-size sprite... 18:46:19 <planetmaker> That's a road better prepared by a zoom for all sprites. 18:48:13 *** tkjacobsen has quit IRC 18:49:14 <Boyinblue0> !grf 18:49:15 <PublicServer> Boyinblue0: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/GRF (Version 7.3) 18:49:23 *** Phoenix_the_II has quit IRC 18:49:33 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000362C : http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 18:49:51 <Chris_Booth> planetmaker: just a quicky 18:50:06 <Chris_Booth> will the openGFX menu sprite ever go HD or 32bpp? 18:50:23 <planetmaker> iewww. Thanks, I prefer a quickie with other persons... :-P 18:50:40 <Chris_Booth> hahaha planetmaker not like that 18:51:01 <Boyinblue0> !password 18:51:01 <PublicServer> Boyinblue0: jiggle 18:51:14 <PublicServer> *** Player joined the game 18:51:14 <Webster> Player, please change your in game nick 18:51:17 <planetmaker> there will be, if there ever will be a decent 32bpp project, maybe even a 32bpp OpenGFX 18:51:34 <PublicServer> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 18:51:58 <planetmaker> so... Dunno :-) I'm not an artist. 18:52:01 <PublicServer> *** Boyinblue0 joined the game 18:52:24 <planetmaker> Boyinblue0, you know the ingame console? 18:52:36 <PublicServer> <Boyinblue0> / 18:52:39 <planetmaker> name <newname> also works from there :-) 18:52:51 <PublicServer> <Boyinblue0> Ahhh right okays :P 18:53:02 <PublicServer> <Boyinblue0> Long time since i've played so forgot a lot of stuff :( 18:53:10 <planetmaker> yeah, seems like ;-) 18:53:27 <PublicServer> <Boyinblue0> Hehe :P Had a really busy past few months :? 18:53:27 <planetmaker> yes, I remember your nickname, though ;-) 18:53:54 <PublicServer> <Boyinblue0> Hehe :P Yeah I was here a while ago 18:54:15 <PublicServer> <Boyinblue0> Summer time last year I think was the last time 18:54:46 <planetmaker> which months are summer for you? 18:55:26 <Boyinblue0> ahh erm july to august/september 18:55:37 <planetmaker> ok :-) Just making sure :-) 18:56:22 <Kenix> !help 18:56:22 <PublicServer> Kenix: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands 18:56:48 <Kenix> !players 18:56:50 <PublicServer> Kenix: Client 2 (Orange) is Amm1er, in company 1 (Flarham Transport) 18:56:50 <PublicServer> Kenix: Client 17 is Thraxian, a spectator 18:56:50 <PublicServer> Kenix: Client 22 (Orange) is James, in company 1 (Flarham Transport) 18:56:50 <PublicServer> Kenix: Client 7 (Orange) is Mitooo, in company 1 (Flarham Transport) 18:56:50 <PublicServer> Kenix: Client 26 (Orange) is Boyinblue0, in company 1 (Flarham Transport) 18:56:50 <PublicServer> Kenix: Client 15 is dexter311, a spectator 18:56:50 <PublicServer> Kenix: Client 20 (Orange) is kratt, in company 1 (Flarham Transport) 18:57:57 *** Kenix has quit IRC 19:01:12 <V453000> !password 19:01:12 <PublicServer> V453000: jiggle 19:01:27 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 19:04:33 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00008232 : http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 19:04:35 <V453000> haha you forgot trees on the map Kenji :P 19:04:53 *** Chillosophy has joined #openttdcoop 19:06:48 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 19:12:04 <PublicServer> <James> Airship! 19:12:41 *** MeisterMarkus has joined #openttdcoop 19:13:10 <MeisterMarkus> !save 19:13:10 <PublicServer> Saving game... 19:13:11 <PublicServer> Game saved 19:13:52 *** Bluelight has joined #openttdcoop 19:17:10 <MeisterMarkus> !password 19:17:10 <PublicServer> MeisterMarkus: tailed 19:17:21 <PublicServer> *** MeisterMarkus joined the game 19:18:47 *** Thorinbur has joined #openttdcoop 19:18:55 <Thorinbur> !players 19:18:57 <PublicServer> Thorinbur: Client 2 (Orange) is Amm1er, in company 1 (Flarham Transport) 19:18:57 <PublicServer> Thorinbur: Client 17 is Thraxian, a spectator 19:18:57 <PublicServer> Thorinbur: Client 22 (Orange) is James, in company 1 (Flarham Transport) 19:18:57 <PublicServer> Thorinbur: Client 7 (Orange) is Mitooo, in company 1 (Flarham Transport) 19:18:57 <PublicServer> Thorinbur: Client 26 (Orange) is Boyinblue0, in company 1 (Flarham Transport) 19:18:58 <PublicServer> Thorinbur: Client 15 is dexter311, a spectator 19:18:58 <PublicServer> Thorinbur: Client 30 (Orange) is MeisterMarkus, in company 1 (Flarham Transport) 19:19:00 <PublicServer> Thorinbur: Client 20 (Orange) is kratt, in company 1 (Flarham Transport) 19:19:13 <Thorinbur> Woah... Quite crowdy in here 19:19:34 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000F65C : http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 19:19:43 <PublicServer> *** Amm1er has left the game (leaving) 19:19:46 <Thorinbur> New map? 19:20:07 <Ammler> !rcon set pause_on_join 19:20:08 <PublicServer> Ammler: Current value for 'pause_on_join' is: 'on' (min: 0, max: 1) 19:20:09 <PublicServer> <MeisterMarkus> yes 19:20:11 <Ammler> !rcon set pause_on_join 0 19:20:12 <Thorinbur> Wow! 19:20:16 <Thorinbur> !password 19:20:16 <PublicServer> Thorinbur: runway 19:20:28 <PublicServer> <MeisterMarkus> guess why i'm online again :D 19:20:29 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 19:20:50 <Thorinbur> wow! leave something for me! 19:21:17 <PublicServer> <MeisterMarkus> it's still planning phase 19:21:26 <Thorinbur> good 19:22:03 <Thorinbur> why last map was dropped? 19:22:11 <Thorinbur> Too intense? 19:22:12 <PublicServer> <MeisterMarkus> dunno 19:22:42 <Thorinbur> and new version as well 19:22:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> what is taht station supposed to be? 19:23:08 <PublicServer> <James> I'm hoping it would work as a mainline station without jamming 19:23:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> how do you describe ML station :) 19:23:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> or ... what do you want it to do 19:24:13 <Thorinbur> wow... Unmatching new grf 19:24:14 <PublicServer> <James> I want it to handle lots of trains 19:24:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> well ... ok ... its job is to load and unload passengers? 19:25:20 <PublicServer> <James> Passengers and freight 19:25:43 <PublicServer> <MeisterMarkus> wow a tl 12 station 19:25:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> I doubt tha twill work 19:26:09 <PublicServer> *** Spike joined the game 19:26:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> you would probably need something more complicated 19:26:36 <Thorinbur> hmm... Are all GRF's used there in the GRF pack 7.3 from the page? 19:26:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> which dont match? 19:27:00 <PublicServer> <James> Planes and depot 19:27:09 <Ammler> Thorinbur: read !grf 19:27:12 <PublicServer> <V453000> planes are at Online Content 19:27:17 <Thorinbur> !grf 19:27:17 <PublicServer> Thorinbur: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/GRF (Version 7.3) 19:27:19 <Ammler> or @quickstart 19:27:21 <PublicServer> <James> So is depot 19:27:26 <Thorinbur> downloading it right now 19:27:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> k 19:28:03 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 19:28:05 *** Paul2 has quit IRC 19:28:07 <Thorinbur> strange. I saw that Auto Updater was downloading this pack. Maybe an old ersion. 19:28:30 <sietse> !dl lin 19:28:30 <PublicServer> sietse: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r18927/openttd-trunk-r18927-linux-generic-i686.tar.bz2 19:29:12 <sietse> !password 19:29:12 <PublicServer> sietse: runway 19:29:33 <PublicServer> *** Sietse joined the game 19:29:35 <PublicServer> <Sietse> hello 19:29:43 <PublicServer> <MeisterMarkus> hi 19:29:43 <PublicServer> <James> Hi 19:30:06 <PublicServer> <Sietse> 1024x256? 19:30:23 <KenjiE20> wtf? why is there a main station? 19:30:53 <PublicServer> <James> I want to know if something like this would work 19:31:19 <KenjiE20> could you not test in a sandbox offline? 19:31:23 *** Paul2 has joined #openttdcoop 19:31:28 <PublicServer> <James> Yes 19:31:57 <PublicServer> <MeisterMarkus> but he wouldn't get feedback in an offline sandbox 19:32:06 <KenjiE20> screenshots 19:32:34 <PublicServer> *** Thorinbur joined the game 19:32:36 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> YEY! 19:32:45 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> It works It works! 19:34:28 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Why so bug station? 19:34:31 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> *big? 19:34:33 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00001A17 : http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 19:34:34 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 19:35:28 <KenjiE20> PS in any other stage than building is not the place for such constructs 19:36:40 <PublicServer> *** jond1sti joined the game 19:37:30 <Boyinblue0> !quickstart 19:38:19 <PublicServer> *** MeisterMarkus has joined spectators 19:38:41 <Boyinblue0> @quickstart 19:38:43 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 19:39:08 <KenjiE20> in case you didn't get the hint, please pull it up 19:39:55 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> it's gone :( 19:42:19 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> You started with cheats? Or all that cash comes from planes? 19:42:33 <KenjiE20> planes 19:44:13 <Fuco> !dl win64 19:44:13 <PublicServer> Fuco: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r18927/openttd-trunk-r18927-windows-win64.zip 19:44:29 <Fuco> hm lol, my client is like 6 months old 19:44:33 <PublicServer> <Boyinblue0> Wow guys 2880*900 resolution with dual screens :P 19:44:45 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> nice. 19:44:50 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ry that with previos map 19:45:10 <Fuco> !password 19:45:10 <PublicServer> Fuco: carols 19:45:17 <PublicServer> *** Fucoo joined the game 19:45:57 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Low TS or Medium TF, cos there are both stated 19:46:17 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> With plan is correct? 19:46:26 <KenjiE20> none 19:46:29 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> you have to wait for vote 19:46:54 <KenjiE20> @quickstart 19:46:56 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 19:48:28 <PublicServer> <kratt> so 19:48:33 <PublicServer> <kratt> anybody have better ideas? 19:48:42 <PublicServer> <kratt> or shall we start 19:48:43 <planetmaker> make a plan, kratt :-) 19:48:48 <PublicServer> <kratt> well 19:48:54 <PublicServer> <kratt> im a very rookie player 19:49:00 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> it will take like a day to start 19:49:00 <planetmaker> and we don't start before there hasn't been called the vote finished. 19:49:10 <PublicServer> <Fucoo> you can take a good night sleep 19:49:19 <PublicServer> <kratt> i think i should leave my thoughts to myself 19:49:28 <planetmaker> well... why? 19:49:33 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000362C : http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 19:49:47 <Fuco> what whas that ^^ 19:49:58 <planetmaker> look at the link 19:49:58 <KenjiE20> bridges? 19:49:59 <PublicServer> <kratt> anyway when no better plan 19:50:04 <Ammler> password manager created the screen 19:50:05 <PublicServer> <kratt> i vote for Chris Booth 19:50:31 <planetmaker> is there already a voting board around? Dunno 19:50:37 <Fuco> nope 19:50:38 <KenjiE20> only two plans 19:50:39 <KenjiE20> so no 19:50:40 <PublicServer> <Boyinblue0> Mind if I have a go at creating a plan? 19:50:49 <PublicServer> <MeisterMarkus> go ahead 19:50:51 <planetmaker> Boyinblue0, sure, please, go for it 19:50:57 <PublicServer> *** Fucoo has left the game (leaving) 19:51:11 <planetmaker> s/sure/surely not/ 19:51:31 <Ammler> Fuco: mainly your patch :-) 19:51:36 <PublicServer> <Boyinblue0> Okily dokily :) It will be my first one so may not be very good. 19:51:47 <Fuco> Ammler: it's just there wasn't any command 19:51:55 <Ammler> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/728 19:52:20 <Ammler> I "sourced" it in the password cicle 19:52:35 <Ammler> so if nobody triggers it here, it does change 19:53:41 <Fuco> ah, cool 19:53:43 <Fuco> autoupdate 19:54:14 <Fuco> maybe it should say something else, but that's just a minor thing 19:55:10 <KenjiE20> maybe it should just be silent 19:55:30 <KenjiE20> not like we really need the PS saying that every 15mins 24/7 19:55:32 <Ammler> I agree to KenjiE20 19:57:13 <PublicServer> <dexter311> mind if I have a go at making a plan? 19:57:32 <PublicServer> <dexter311> it'd be more simple though I think... considering I'm a noob 19:57:37 <Ammler> dexter311: no need to ask, go for it 19:57:41 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Post one. 19:57:45 <PublicServer> *** dexter311 has joined company #1 19:58:00 <Ammler> and do mind, we vote about, so your plan could get declined. 19:58:17 <PublicServer> <dexter311> yeah I won't be worried if mine doesn't go 19:58:26 <Ammler> fine :-) 19:58:50 <PublicServer> <James> I've never played one of these games before, and I made a plan 20:01:59 <PublicServer> *** MeisterMarkus has joined company #1 20:02:09 <PublicServer> *** Thraxian has left the game (connection lost) 20:02:19 *** Thraxian|Work has quit IRC 20:03:08 <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (leaving) 20:03:17 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> TL is best when odd (cant remember why) Just stating what i red somewhere 20:03:56 <KenjiE20> odd fits in an even signal spacing 20:04:33 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000081FA : http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 20:06:22 <PublicServer> <James> Whose plan is to divide the map into small regions? 20:06:27 <PublicServer> <MeisterMarkus> mine 20:06:30 <Ammler> !content 20:06:40 <PublicServer> *** Ammler has updated content from BaNaNaS. 20:07:46 <Razaekel> !password 20:07:47 <PublicServer> Razaekel: musses 20:07:55 <PublicServer> *** Razaekel joined the game 20:09:00 <PublicServer> *** Razaekel has left the game (leaving) 20:09:50 <PublicServer> <Boyinblue0> Done my plan :) Anything missing? 20:13:02 <Ammler> !playercount 20:13:02 <PublicServer> Ammler: Number of players: 9 20:13:05 <Ammler> !url 20:13:06 <PublicServer> Ammler: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/ 20:17:56 <PublicServer> <dexter311> does mine make any sense? 20:17:59 <PublicServer> <dexter311> do I need a coffee? 20:18:47 <PublicServer> <MeisterMarkus> two factory drops? 20:19:06 <PublicServer> * MeisterMarkus likes 20:19:33 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000ADDA : http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 20:20:16 <KenjiE20> heh 20:20:30 <KenjiE20> mixed networks >_< haven't we already proved those fail on PS? 20:20:36 <KenjiE20> meh 20:20:59 <^Spike^> pax and cargo same netwerk? 20:21:02 <^Spike^> network* 20:21:08 <KenjiE20> ya 20:21:08 <^Spike^> that has gone wrong many times... 20:21:15 <^Spike^> should be separate to make it flow better 20:21:21 <KenjiE20> that german map one *almost* worked 20:21:28 <^Spike^> ? 20:21:29 <^Spike^> which one 20:21:31 <KenjiE20> till *someone* overlorded 20:21:35 <KenjiE20> loverloaded* 20:21:37 <KenjiE20> -l 20:21:40 <KenjiE20> grahrdofs 20:21:45 <^Spike^> psg? 20:21:55 <KenjiE20> sec 20:22:02 <PublicServer> <James> LL_RR, outside for freight, inside for pax 20:22:19 <PublicServer> <James> But they would share junctions 20:22:59 <KenjiE20> @psgsave 139 20:22:59 <Webster> PSG 139 Archive entry; http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/PublicServer:Archive_-_Games_131_-_140#gameid_139 20:23:27 <^Spike^> that one 20:23:31 <^Spike^> the game i started.. :) 20:23:38 <^Spike^> that was a nice one idd 20:23:42 <KenjiE20> yea, that worked right up until players went mad 20:23:45 <^Spike^> even my SLH held up! :) 20:23:52 <KenjiE20> and we had an overload of PAX 20:23:54 <MeisterMarkus> james build hubs like this one http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/File:Junctionary_MSG4_Hub17.png and they won't mix 20:23:57 <^Spike^> oh that idd.. 20:23:59 <KenjiE20> and random non-plan stations 20:24:02 <^Spike^> someone went mad on busses 20:24:16 <KenjiE20> and maglev 20:24:17 <^Spike^> and i tried to save it but failed... 20:24:31 <^Spike^> i tried te reduce busses and get rid of maglev.. :( 20:24:38 <KenjiE20> I only noticed the random PAX station addition in the Final 20:25:03 <KenjiE20> I think I gave up trying to control the obvious madness 20:25:11 <KenjiE20> two nets don't work on PS 20:25:14 <^Spike^> some ppl was like: There osm 20:25:19 <^Spike^> isn't enough pax! 20:25:20 <KenjiE20> one always gets more attn than the other :( 20:25:54 <^Spike^> yep 20:26:16 <MeisterMarkus> psg172 had even 4 nets 20:26:25 <KenjiE20> but they were all cargo 20:26:42 <KenjiE20> and it was still unbalanced 20:26:58 <Thorinbur> @psgsave 172 20:26:58 <Webster> PSG 172 Archive entry; http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/PublicServer:Archive_-_Games_171_-_180#gameid_172 20:27:00 <KenjiE20> copper had tons, and oil little 20:27:11 <KenjiE20> oil, or rubber, one of them 20:27:14 <MeisterMarkus> hmm true 20:27:15 <KenjiE20> the one in the NE corner 20:27:28 <PublicServer> <James> SLHs would be built to handle only cargo or only pax 20:27:33 <PublicServer> <James> Same with depots 20:27:36 *** subby has joined #openttdcoop 20:27:51 <KenjiE20> why depots? we don't use them 20:28:00 <PublicServer> <James> *Service center 20:28:09 <KenjiE20> see previous statement 20:28:16 <planetmaker> Well... still experience shows that pax + cargo don't mix well... 20:28:25 <KenjiE20> indeed 20:28:38 <PublicServer> <James> Isn't it best to use both for city growth? 20:29:06 <KenjiE20> but who cares about that in a cargo net 20:29:07 <planetmaker> 5 stations within city reach is sufficient. 20:29:17 <KenjiE20> plus ^ 20:29:17 <planetmaker> Everything else is just eye candy. 20:30:13 <planetmaker> exceptions are climates where a town needs either food or water in order to grow at all. 20:30:15 <Ammler> !screen 20:30:15 <PublicServer> *** Ammler made screenshot at 0000D215 : http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 20:30:32 <KenjiE20> asdf 20:30:38 <KenjiE20> that's a lots of bought land 20:30:44 <planetmaker> But then one drop / one apple a month for the whole town is also sufficient to satisfy all the needs of all people living there 20:30:56 <KenjiE20> heh 20:32:07 <subby> The version listed for your grf pack, is that the required openttd version? 20:32:19 <subby> ie, the public server running an older version ? 20:32:38 <kratt> i made my plan 20:32:42 <kratt> atleast i think whats best 20:32:59 <KenjiE20> that's the version of the GRFPack 20:33:10 <subby> Oh, alright! 20:33:25 <subby> Wanna spectate on the server a bit, curious cat! :) 20:33:34 <KenjiE20> @quickstart 20:33:36 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 20:34:11 <PublicServer> *** Sietse has joined company #1 20:34:19 <Chris_Booth> how are the plans going? 20:34:33 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000C64C : http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 20:34:38 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Many many plans showing up 20:34:52 <PublicServer> <James> Chris, does your plan go through the mountains? 20:35:05 <Chris_Booth> yes but very low TF 20:35:57 <PublicServer> <kratt> well chris 20:36:01 <PublicServer> <kratt> your plan is history 20:36:03 <Chris_Booth> !password 20:36:03 <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: proton 20:36:13 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 20:36:15 <Chris_Booth> why is the kratt ? 20:36:19 <planetmaker> kratt, ? 20:36:23 <PublicServer> *** James has left the game (connection lost) 20:36:26 <PublicServer> <kratt> i made better one 20:36:37 <planetmaker> but you didn't delete his? 20:36:39 <JamesG> !password 20:36:39 <PublicServer> JamesG: proton 20:36:46 <PublicServer> <kratt> ofcourse not 20:36:55 <PublicServer> *** James joined the game 20:36:56 <PublicServer> <dexter311> but yours is completely different kratt 20:36:57 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> also, who built bridge all arround that lake and why? 20:37:07 <PublicServer> <kratt> why would i do such thing 20:37:07 <PublicServer> <dexter311> chris has PAX only... yours is cargo only 20:37:10 <PublicServer> <kratt> maybe my plan is bad 20:37:17 <PublicServer> <James> I built the bridges 20:37:17 <PublicServer> <kratt> and we need few options 20:37:26 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i asked a question 20:37:37 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> who built bridges arround the lake 20:37:41 <PublicServer> <James> I haven't used this GRF before 20:37:42 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and why? 20:38:25 <PublicServer> <kratt> brb 20:38:40 <PublicServer> *** kratt has left the game (leaving) 20:38:59 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> PM can you pause the server please 20:39:26 <Chris_Booth> planetmaker: can you pause the server please 20:39:31 <KenjiE20> 20:38:05 +PublicServer | <James> I built the bridges 20:39:36 <Chris_Booth> some one has been TFing the map 20:39:36 <KenjiE20> 20:38:28 +PublicServer | <James> I haven't used this GRF before 20:39:40 <KenjiE20> perhaps you should be reading 20:39:46 <Chris_Booth> there is no need to TF the map though 20:39:53 <Chris_Booth> to build the bridges it there? 20:40:23 <subby> !password 20:40:23 <PublicServer> subby: proton 20:40:23 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> if you want to do things like that you do it in private games 20:40:29 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no i coop game 20:40:36 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> not in a coop game 20:40:37 <KenjiE20> true 20:40:37 <PublicServer> <James> Will do in future 20:40:38 <PublicServer> *** subzero joined the game 20:40:45 <KenjiE20> I see no major earthworks though 20:40:51 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> sorry for the mega bad english 20:40:52 <KenjiE20> not *really* major anyway 20:41:00 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i just removed them 20:41:08 <KenjiE20> I know 20:41:47 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and a stupid man has been drawn 20:41:50 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> again why? 20:42:24 <PublicServer> <dexter311> weren't you making stupid long trains before chris? 20:42:39 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and thrax told me off for it 20:46:18 *** subzero- has joined #openttdcoop 20:46:27 *** subby has quit IRC 20:48:23 <Razaekel> whee, noobs galore 20:49:33 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000ADF8 : http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 20:50:06 <PublicServer> <Sietse> added a plan aswell :) 20:50:07 <PublicServer> *** Sietse has joined spectators 20:50:22 <PublicServer> *** Thorinbur has joined spectators 20:54:06 <PublicServer> <MeisterMarkus> is it possible to add trainsets to a running game? 20:54:14 <Razaekel> yea 20:54:20 <PublicServer> <MeisterMarkus> nice 20:54:23 <Razaekel> removing trainsets that are in use is another matter, tho 20:54:33 *** Progman has quit IRC 20:54:39 <KenjiE20> adding isn't without issues either 20:54:53 <PublicServer> *** dexter311 has joined spectators 20:57:25 <PublicServer> *** MeisterMarkus has joined spectators 20:57:33 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (connection lost) 21:01:02 <PublicServer> <dexter311> all aboard the fail plane... 21:02:15 <PublicServer> *** Kenji joined the game 21:02:26 <PublicServer> <Kenji> why are there more jets? 21:02:46 <PublicServer> <James> I bought four jets 21:02:47 <PublicServer> <Kenji> 6 was plenty 21:02:58 <PublicServer> <Kenji> fundham was at capacity 21:03:25 <PublicServer> <Kenji> their not even the same type 21:03:28 <PublicServer> <Kenji> ... 21:04:33 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001FF44 : http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 21:06:48 <PublicServer> *** Kenji has left the game (leaving) 21:08:03 *** Phoenix_the_II has joined #openttdcoop 21:08:03 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Phoenix_the_II 21:13:39 <PublicServer> <James> How do we decide when to vote for a plan? 21:13:52 <db48x> you can vote at any time 21:14:14 <db48x> you can change your vote if a plan shows up later 21:14:30 <KenjiE20> can't vote without a vote board 21:15:24 <Thorinbur> But what type of voting system? Simply tell whith you loke best, or that dropping out vote plan (new voting system or something, 21:15:39 <PublicServer> <James> Should we vote on it? 21:15:44 <sietse> just a list with all plans and ppl get to vote once 21:15:58 <sietse> go ahead and create a voteboard 21:16:00 <KenjiE20> let's vote on whether to vote about what vote we use for voting 21:16:06 <dexter311> lol 21:16:10 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> HAHA 21:16:18 <PublicServer> <James> If we don't vote, what do we do? 21:16:25 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> I vote for voting for! 21:16:35 <Ammler> waiting for tomorrow.... 21:16:45 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> And than i vote for second voting system 21:16:50 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and then... 21:16:51 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> :P 21:17:05 <planetmaker> and then I come and decide as dictator that my plan has won :-P 21:17:07 * KenjiE20 seconds Ammler 21:17:27 <PublicServer> <James> Where should we put the vote board? 21:17:30 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Lets give everyone chance of posting his plan. 21:17:33 <KenjiE20> you'd need to make on up first pm 21:18:01 <Ammler> there won't be a plan decided before tomorrow evening t-~20hours 21:18:07 <PublicServer> <James> Ok 21:18:11 <db48x> !password 21:18:11 <PublicServer> db48x: cowers 21:18:13 <KenjiE20> James: unless a member changes the topic, any voting is null and voi 21:18:15 <KenjiE20> void* 21:18:18 <PublicServer> *** db48x joined the game 21:18:38 *** Chillosophy has quit IRC 21:18:52 <PublicServer> *** Thorinbur has left the game (leaving) 21:19:09 <Thorinbur> gonna watch some recent games 21:19:33 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000CDEA : http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 21:20:29 <Yexo> Have you ever played an all-aircraft game? Or another game with lots of aircraft? 21:20:36 <KenjiE20> dull 21:20:46 <PublicServer> *** subzero has left the game (leaving) 21:20:53 <KenjiE20> big inter-cont, spam planes 21:20:58 <KenjiE20> s/big/build/ 21:22:11 *** subzero- has quit IRC 21:22:13 <PublicServer> *** James has left the game (leaving) 21:22:48 <PublicServer> *** db48x has left the game (leaving) 21:23:05 <planetmaker> Yexo, only aircraft indeed would imply to not do much... but we often use them as money maker 21:23:18 <Yexo> ok, nvm then 21:23:20 <planetmaker> and... they might be used as eye candy or so. 21:23:28 <planetmaker> But I can guess why you ask :-) 21:23:38 <planetmaker> Anything you would like in particular? 21:23:40 <Yexo> I doubt you'd guess right :) 21:23:48 <planetmaker> ok... ^ 21:23:48 <Yexo> nah, just lots of aircraft 21:23:54 <KenjiE20> we have used the occasional heavy lifter for short hops 21:24:15 <KenjiE20> 131 / 132 spring to mind 21:24:17 <planetmaker> hm... I recall some MP games where there were A LOT of airports... but they were indeed not here 21:24:21 <Yexo> just running a few AIs with planes only now, cheating them some money 21:24:24 <Yexo> that'll do soon enough 21:24:36 <KenjiE20> also that island hopping PAX game 21:24:47 <KenjiE20> that had airport links and island sbahn 21:25:00 <Yexo> 250 airports within a single year :o 21:25:00 <KenjiE20> 14x iirc 21:29:37 <PublicServer> *** dexter311 has left the game (leaving) 21:33:00 <PublicServer> *** Mitooo has left the game (connection lost) 21:33:32 <mitooo> !password 21:33:32 <PublicServer> mitooo: hedged 21:33:46 <PublicServer> *** Mitooo joined the game 21:33:51 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 21:34:38 <PublicServer> *** Mitooo has left the game (leaving) 21:34:46 *** mitooo has quit IRC 21:36:30 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 21:38:09 <V453000> !password 21:38:09 <PublicServer> V453000: uterus 21:38:24 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 21:39:13 *** PeterT_ has joined #openttdcoop 21:42:20 <Osai> hi all 21:42:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi! 21:42:49 <Osai> we need a screenshort for psg#172 21:43:03 <KenjiE20> f5 21:43:04 <V453000> there is one 21:43:20 *** JamesG has quit IRC 21:43:55 <V453000> I added it today... 21:43:59 <Osai> perfect 21:44:03 <Osai> oO 21:44:12 <Osai> I just updated RSS now 21:44:16 <Osai> and saw it 21:44:23 <V453000> :) 21:44:52 <Osai> and oh 21:44:56 <Osai> I didn't tell you guys 21:45:00 <kratt> !password 21:45:00 <PublicServer> kratt: uterus 21:45:06 <Osai> I lately tried to be more active 21:45:16 <Osai> but times changed a wee bit again :/ 21:45:16 <V453000> ? 21:45:18 <KenjiE20> did hell freeze? 21:45:21 <Osai> no 21:45:24 <V453000> :D 21:45:24 <KenjiE20> :P 21:45:32 <Osai> I was nominated for the kendo national team 21:45:37 <KenjiE20> grats 21:45:41 <PublicServer> *** kratt joined the game 21:45:44 <Osai> so I am focusing on european championships 21:45:45 <V453000> wow 21:45:47 <Osai> in april 21:46:24 <planetmaker> ha, grats, Osai ! 21:46:32 <Osai> thx pm :) 21:46:47 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 21:46:53 <Osai> I was practicing for this since 4 years 21:47:00 <Osai> and now it is true 21:47:05 <Osai> I can't believe it :D 21:47:13 <planetmaker> :-) hehe :-) 21:47:43 <Osai> Ammler: is it a server side patch? 21:47:49 <Osai> !screen 21:47:49 <PublicServer> *** Osai made screenshot at 0000E5E8 : http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 21:48:22 <Ammler> Osai: quite minor, just had to enable blitters for dedicated server 21:48:24 *** JamesG has joined #openttdcoop 21:48:32 <Ammler> oh, and hello :-) 21:48:33 <Osai> can we transform 0000E5E8 to a serious value ? 21:48:36 <PublicServer> Server has exited 21:48:36 <Osai> howdy 21:48:37 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 21:48:46 <V453000> O_O 21:48:48 <V453000> oh¨ 21:48:49 <kratt> lol 21:49:01 <kratt> server crashed 21:49:04 <planetmaker> err... 21:49:08 <Ammler> Osai: I would like something like "scrolltosign BBH01" :-) 21:49:28 <Osai> dunno if that is possible 21:50:19 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 21:50:19 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 21:50:19 <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)' 21:50:19 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 21:50:19 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #174 (r18927) | STAGE: Planning | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart & !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder" 21:50:34 <Ammler> Osai: would need a patch of course, but :-) 21:50:49 <KenjiE20> ?" <-- heh who sent that command? 21:51:01 *** Gegan has joined #openttdcoop 21:51:02 <planetmaker> !? 21:51:10 <planetmaker> hm... can happen, I guess 21:51:15 <Boyinblue0> !password 21:51:15 <PublicServer> Boyinblue0: breads 21:51:24 <PublicServer> *** Boyinblue0 joined the game 21:51:31 *** avO has joined #openttdcoop 21:51:43 <Osai> !list openttdcoop 21:51:43 <avO> Osai: dl, download and ip 21:51:52 <db48x> bitrot :( 21:51:54 <Gegan> !dl 21:51:54 <PublicServer> Gegan: !dl autostart|autottd|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x 21:51:54 <avO> Gegan: Sorry. There is no version of OpenTTD defined. 21:52:24 <Ammler> the server crash might be because I removed ttd graphics 21:52:24 <Gegan> !dl win64 21:52:24 <PublicServer> Gegan: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r18927/openttd-trunk-r18927-windows-win64.zip 21:52:24 <avO> Gegan: Sorry. There is no version of OpenTTD defined. 21:52:36 <KenjiE20> avignon ? 21:52:42 <Osai> yea 21:52:44 <Osai> !list openttdcoop 21:52:44 <avO> Osai: dl, download, ip and time 21:52:48 <Osai> !time 21:52:48 <PublicServer> Osai: 22:52 (CET) 21:52:48 <avO> Osai: EU: 22:52 (CET) / US: 16:52 (EST) 21:52:54 <Osai> :P 21:52:59 <KenjiE20> .dev is free :) 21:53:09 <Osai> no, wanted to show it public too 21:53:12 <Osai> but, well 21:53:18 <Osai> !join #openttdcoop.dev 21:53:18 <PublicServer> Osai: try /join 21:53:18 <avO> Osai: operation succeeded. 21:53:28 <Ammler> hehe 21:53:30 <Osai> !part #openttdcoop 21:53:30 *** avO has left #openttdcoop 21:53:34 <KenjiE20> well, depends whether this is demo or dev I guess 21:53:55 <Ammler> well, I guess, it is preparing live 21:54:27 <Osai> well, the openttdcoop plugin is learning fast 21:54:47 <Osai> KenjiE20: can you send me the link to your plugin for supybot again? 21:55:14 <KenjiE20> the source? 21:55:48 <Osai> yea 21:57:11 *** Gegan has quit IRC 21:58:44 *** PeterT_ has quit IRC 22:00:38 <Boyinblue0> Brb guys watching Skins :) 22:00:49 *** Boyinblue0 is now known as Boy|Tele 22:00:54 <PublicServer> *** Boyinblue0 has left the game (leaving) 22:01:21 <Razaekel> hmm 22:01:27 <Razaekel> what year does maglev start in? 22:02:59 <Thorinbur> !password 22:02:59 <PublicServer> Thorinbur: breads 22:03:14 <PublicServer> *** Thorinbur joined the game 22:04:53 <PublicServer> *** Thorinbur has left the game (leaving) 22:05:07 <PublicServer> *** 0sai joined the game 22:06:33 <kratt> !password 22:06:33 <PublicServer> kratt: nagged 22:06:49 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 22:06:51 <PublicServer> *** kratt joined the game 22:11:44 <PublicServer> *** kratt has left the game (leaving) 22:11:45 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 22:12:24 *** kratt has quit IRC 22:14:07 *** jondisti has quit IRC 22:16:48 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 22:16:48 <PublicServer> *** Amm1er joined the game 22:16:57 <Ammler> Osai: ^ :-P 22:17:10 <Osai> :D 22:17:31 <KenjiE20> that works too :P 22:17:38 <Ammler> !screen 22:17:38 <PublicServer> *** Ammler made screenshot at 0000195A : http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 22:17:56 <Ammler> planetmaker: better graphics now? 22:18:36 <Ammler> !screen 22:18:36 <PublicServer> *** Ammler made screenshot at 0000294F : http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 22:18:58 <planetmaker> I guess so :-) 22:19:10 <planetmaker> But... hard to tell from the current screenshot tbh 22:20:19 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00002157 : http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 22:21:31 <planetmaker> !screen 22:21:31 <PublicServer> *** planetmaker made screenshot at 00002146 : http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 22:21:44 <PublicServer> *** Thraxian joined the game 22:22:08 <PublicServer> <0sai> hey Thraxian 22:22:11 <PublicServer> <0sai> :) 22:23:19 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> hi Osai 22:23:34 <planetmaker> !screen 22:23:34 <PublicServer> *** planetmaker made screenshot at 00001551 : http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 22:23:35 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> I'm back from the dentist - 3 attempts to fill a cavity. luckily, the last one held 22:23:59 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> autsch 22:24:09 <planetmaker> !screen 22:24:09 <PublicServer> *** planetmaker made screenshot at 00002149 : http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 22:24:22 * planetmaker is a spammer :-P 22:24:34 <planetmaker> you're watched, Osai ;-) 22:25:00 <V453000> !password 22:25:01 <PublicServer> V453000: wallop 22:25:08 <planetmaker> good night 22:25:18 <Ammler> hmm, looks like last action is in the middle? 22:25:28 <V453000> cya pm 22:25:28 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 22:25:39 <Osai> does dbsetxl support 6tile ICE? 22:25:44 <Ammler> no 22:25:51 <Ammler> 4-8-12-16 22:25:56 <Osai> hmmm 22:26:05 <Ammler> well, the diesel one might be special 22:26:12 <Osai> dunno 22:26:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> grab maglev transrapid 22:26:33 <Osai> hmmm 22:26:42 <Osai> do we want transrapid? 22:26:50 <Ammler> dbsetxl transrapid is ugly 22:27:04 <Ammler> the cap is way too high 22:27:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> depends on how Extreme do you want to make the plan :) 22:27:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> I like transrapids :) 22:27:27 *** FiCE has quit IRC 22:27:51 <PublicServer> <0sai> hmmm, a future setting could be nice too 22:28:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> ? 22:28:51 <db48x> !password 22:28:51 <PublicServer> db48x: wallop 22:31:16 *** ODM has quit IRC 22:31:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> Osai: feeder buses? 22:31:47 <PublicServer> <0sai> no 22:31:54 <PublicServer> <0sai> a seperate bus network 22:31:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh 22:32:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> interesting 22:32:04 <PublicServer> <0sai> I want to cover the map 22:32:06 <PublicServer> <0sai> ;D 22:32:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> :))) 22:33:15 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 22:35:15 *** mixrin has quit IRC 22:35:19 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00005161 : http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 22:36:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> you have my vote Osai 22:37:37 <Osai> hehe, thx :D 22:37:47 <PublicServer> *** Vitus has left the game (connection lost) 22:37:59 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> it is indeed a nice plan :-) 22:38:12 <PublicServer> <V453000> what is the City designs thingy? 22:38:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> like airports at the edge, central station in the centre of the city? 22:38:42 <PublicServer> <0sai> well, you can grow and shape a city as you like 22:38:57 <PublicServer> <0sai> but it should always consinst of a CS, bus station and airport 22:39:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> perfect :) 22:39:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh damn 22:39:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> one bad thing :D 22:39:27 <PublicServer> <0sai> but maybe we should limit the size 22:39:28 <PublicServer> <0sai> yes? 22:39:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> I am out tomorrow night 22:39:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> :D 22:39:43 <PublicServer> <0sai> well, I am not here tomorrow and saturday 22:39:45 <PublicServer> <0sai> :/ 22:39:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> :< 22:40:25 <PublicServer> <0sai> I limited city size to 75k 22:40:34 <PublicServer> <0sai> I don't want only 4 mega cities 22:40:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> that will be hard to keep 22:41:00 <PublicServer> <0sai> 75k / city? 22:41:07 <PublicServer> <0sai> if we have 20 cities 22:41:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> we should rather set some area where one city could be 22:41:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> so the builder of the city net could know how should it be big 22:42:31 <PublicServer> <0sai> hmm 22:42:38 <PublicServer> <0sai> I think 75k is quite much 22:42:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> true 22:43:03 <PublicServer> <0sai> I just want to force a spread 22:43:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> yep 22:43:14 <PublicServer> <0sai> instead of focusing mega cities 22:43:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> good point 22:44:12 <MeisterMarkus> !password 22:44:12 <PublicServer> MeisterMarkus: slicks 22:44:25 <PublicServer> *** MeisterMarkus joined the game 22:46:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> I would like to have Sunningpool :) would look amazing with the lakes and the mountains nearby 22:46:32 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 22:46:48 <V453000> !password 22:46:48 <PublicServer> V453000: slicks 22:47:15 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 22:47:34 <PublicServer> *** db48x joined the game 22:47:48 <PublicServer> <0sai> yea 22:47:51 <PublicServer> <0sai> looks cool 22:48:04 <PublicServer> <0sai> Gretford will be difficult :D 22:48:18 <PublicServer> <0sai> and so will Sartfield 22:48:20 <PublicServer> <0sai> : 22:48:21 <PublicServer> <0sai> ^^ 22:48:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> :D 22:48:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> I love difficult tasks 22:48:55 <PublicServer> *** MeisterMarkus has left the game (leaving) 22:49:53 *** dr_gonzo has quit IRC 22:50:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> I want Gretford!!! I see the future city already 22:50:19 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00004D59 : http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 22:50:48 <PublicServer> <db48x> Rufingford makes me quite happy 22:51:02 <PublicServer> <0sai> well guys 22:51:11 <PublicServer> <0sai> we don't have a voting board yet 22:51:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> lets get one? 22:51:58 <PublicServer> <0sai> yea 22:51:58 <PublicServer> <0sai> :D 22:52:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> in some lake? 22:53:32 <Thorinbur> wait... we do what? 22:53:45 <Thorinbur> Everyone takes a city and develops it? 22:54:04 <Osai> no 22:54:08 <Osai> its just one plan 22:54:16 <Osai> it has to be voted first 22:54:22 <Thorinbur> I know but it's got many folowers... 22:54:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> 2? :D 22:54:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> yet 22:54:43 <PublicServer> <db48x> Osai: avoid mountain passes? 22:54:52 <Osai> yes 22:55:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> dont build on mountains 22:55:01 <Osai> make use of the landscape 22:55:20 <PublicServer> <db48x> but if we avoid the passes, we'll have to build on the mountains 22:55:37 <Thorinbur> i am making doug for bread with my left hand 22:55:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> pass is over the top of the mountain 22:55:46 <Thorinbur> its hard to type:P 22:55:54 <PublicServer> <db48x> no, a pass is between two mountains 22:55:59 <PublicServer> <db48x> the top of a mountain is it's peak 22:56:11 <Osai> are you sure? 22:56:15 <PublicServer> <db48x> quite sure 22:56:26 <V453000> yes and if you cross the mountain with a road, the road is a pass, no? 22:56:47 <Osai> http://mrcoward.com/slcusd/quest/mountain-pass.gif 22:56:48 <Osai> :D 22:57:10 <V453000> exactly 22:57:18 <db48x> yes, that's between the two peaks 22:57:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> but it is over the mountain omg :D 22:57:40 <Osai> well, but a pass is not through a tale 22:57:46 <Osai> err 22:57:48 <Osai> valley 22:58:12 <Thorinbur> !password 22:58:12 <PublicServer> Thorinbur: grated 22:58:19 <Osai> take this first one as a serious joke :D 22:58:25 <PublicServer> *** Thorinbur joined the game 22:58:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> heh 22:58:39 <PublicServer> <0sai> tale ... 22:58:58 <PublicServer> <0sai> I could also write: use the valleys , coulnd't I? 22:59:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> just wanted to tell ya :) 22:59:15 <PublicServer> <0sai> ye 23:00:09 *** mixrin has joined #openttdcoop 23:01:16 <PublicServer> *** Amm1er has left the game (leaving) 23:03:35 <Thorinbur> btw really nice map there Osai 23:04:08 <Osai> thx 23:04:26 <PublicServer> *** Thraxian has left the game (connection lost) 23:05:18 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001CFAF : http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png 23:05:24 <Thorinbur> but i never played City game, and have 0(null) experience with cirty networks. so i would be able to spectate and than maybe join later, but later all towns would already have its major. 23:06:25 <Ammler> some majors can't stay long, they will be devoted ;-) 23:06:38 <Osai> well, its co-operative 23:06:53 <Osai> I think there are some things to do 23:06:57 <PublicServer> *** 0sai has left the game (leaving) 23:07:08 <Thorinbur> on the other hand there is no better way to learn other than try... 23:07:37 <Thorinbur> Woorst that can happen is being as you called it devoted:P 23:10:35 <Osai> yep 23:10:39 <Osai> its time for my bed now 23:10:42 <Osai> nite nite coopers 23:10:43 <Osai> :) 23:10:49 <Osai> cya saturday night 23:11:13 <V453000> bye 23:16:33 <PublicServer> *** db48x has left the game (leaving) 23:18:23 *** JamesG has left #openttdcoop 23:19:08 *** JamesG has joined #openttdcoop 23:20:07 <JamesG> !dl lin 23:20:07 <PublicServer> JamesG: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r18927/openttd-trunk-r18927-linux-generic-i686.tar.bz2 23:22:06 <JamesG> !passwor 23:22:10 <JamesG> !password 23:22:10 <PublicServer> JamesG: myopic 23:22:14 <PublicServer> *** Thorinbur has left the game (leaving) 23:22:15 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 23:22:52 <JamesG> !quickstart 23:22:57 <JamesG> @quickstart 23:22:59 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 23:23:03 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 23:25:38 *** highpinger2 has quit IRC 23:26:11 <PublicServer> *** James joined the game 23:26:49 <PublicServer> *** Thorinbur has left the game (connection lost) 23:31:46 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop 23:36:21 <PublicServer> *** James has left the game (connection lost) 23:43:12 *** JamesG has quit IRC 23:48:43 *** Progman has quit IRC 23:48:53 <sietse> !password 23:48:53 <PublicServer> sietse: weighs 23:49:00 <PublicServer> *** Sietse joined the game 23:49:54 *** Polygon has quit IRC 23:51:03 <dexter311> !password 23:51:03 <PublicServer> dexter311: turkey 23:51:14 <PublicServer> *** dexter311 joined the game 23:53:34 <PublicServer> *** dexter311 has left the game (leaving)