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(http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png) 00:23:42 <PeterT> how is PublicServer able to automatically upload the screenshots to http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/? 00:24:24 <PublicServer> *** Intexon has left the game (leaving) 00:27:12 <PeterT> Ammler, KenjiE20, planetmaker: ^^ 00:29:25 *** Intexon has quit IRC 00:29:41 <Ammler> PeterT: same server 00:29:50 <PeterT> Hmm 00:30:01 <PeterT> How did you make the Ip ps.openttdcoop.org? 00:30:04 <Ammler> ps. should tell you 00:30:25 <Ammler> dns? 00:30:28 <PeterT> ps == public server, right 00:30:37 <Ammler> yes 00:30:42 <Ammler> well 00:30:52 <Ammler> I guess, public. would work too 00:31:03 <Ammler> or pz, dunno 00:31:28 *** Progman has quit IRC 00:31:58 <PeterT> So, if I were to want to enable the !screen patch, on my server at #jonty, I would need to change it's IP? 00:32:18 <PeterT> to something like foo.bar.com/screenshots/ 00:33:15 <Ammler> are you speaking about the "I_run_everything_as_root" server? 00:33:44 <PeterT> yeah? 00:34:08 <Ammler> easiest is to use virtual host for 00:34:54 <PeterT> for 00:34:55 <PeterT> ? 00:35:01 <mrcool> !password 00:35:02 <PublicServer> mrcool: bleeds 00:35:09 <PublicServer> *** mrcool joined the game 00:35:18 <PublicServer> *** mrcool has joined spectators 00:37:44 <Ammler> we have for our public server also a web doc 00:38:13 <Ammler> also the saves are available that way 00:39:54 <PeterT> I don't understand 00:40:04 <PeterT> So you changed the IP of the server to ps.openttdcoop.org 00:40:22 <PeterT> then you made it so that the saves and screens are available online? 00:41:19 <Ammler> we the dns to the ip of the ps and our lovely sponsor made us a vitual domain there :-) 00:41:27 <Ammler> set 00:42:20 <PeterT> Ok 00:42:41 <OwenS> "I run everything as root" server? Scary 00:42:51 <PublicServer> *** Jorl17 has left the game (connection lost) 00:43:14 <Ammler> OwenS: because Linux is so complicated :-D 00:43:16 <PeterT> first of all, what is "running as root" 00:43:22 <PeterT> and why is that bad? 00:44:24 <OwenS> PeterT: Running something under the root account, (Or the account with uid 1, sicne come people like renaming them). And it's bad because root can pwn anything :P 00:44:47 <PeterT> don't you want it to pwn anything? 00:45:14 <Ammler> for example, if openttd has a security in bug and it runs as root, you can use that to make bad things. 00:45:19 <OwenS> I don't want a bug in, say, OpenTTD to allow people to download my customer database, no 00:46:21 <PeterT> That would be bad 00:46:32 <KenjiE20> pfft, a simple op could just kill the server :P 00:46:40 <Ammler> if you give someone access to openttd, it is like you give him root to your server 00:46:51 <KenjiE20> :D 00:46:56 *** LilimaZennen has quit IRC 00:47:00 <Ammler> well, luckily openttd has no such bad things :-P 00:47:36 <Ammler> but autopilot might have 00:47:51 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 00:47:53 <PeterT> Hmm 00:48:14 <PeterT> Ok, well, I've told Jolteon (the owner of the server) what you said, I'll wait for him to respond 00:48:44 <Ammler> well, we told him already yesterday? 00:49:02 <PeterT> did we? 00:49:07 <PeterT> Sorry, wasn't being clear 00:49:17 <PeterT> I told him about changing DNS 00:49:23 <PeterT> you are in #tycoon, you can see it 00:49:33 <Ammler> hmm, dns? 00:50:57 <PeterT> Setting the DNS of the ip 00:51:00 <PeterT> Like you had said 00:52:59 *** Pirate87 has quit IRC 00:54:17 <PublicServer> *** mrcool has left the game (connection lost) 00:59:23 *** mrcool has quit IRC 01:07:32 *** mrcool has joined #openttdcoop 01:09:32 *** KenjiE20|LT has joined #openttdcoop 01:09:32 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20|LT 01:11:26 *** Polygon has joined #openttdcoop 01:12:19 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 01:12:51 *** Kenix has quit IRC 01:22:24 <PeterT> Ammler: where are the autosaves for the server available? 01:22:49 <Ammler> http://ps.openttdcoop.org/save 01:22:59 <PeterT> The requested URL /save was not found on this server. 01:23:08 <Ammler> public 01:23:12 <Ammler> http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/save 01:23:16 <PeterT> thanks 01:23:23 <Ammler> prozone is the other 01:24:05 <PeterT> do you have the DoCommand log patch? 01:24:40 <Ammler> I already told you, I won't give you out, as that is SmatZ business... 01:24:54 <PeterT> Ok 01:25:02 <PeterT> SmatZ: Do you have the DoCommand logs patch? 01:25:15 <Ammler> but I do remember, he once pasted the link to you.... 01:25:49 *** Qanael has joined #openttdcoop 01:25:50 <PeterT> Yes, it's not here, if this is what you're thinking of http://devs.openttd.org/~smatz/private/mypatches/ 01:26:04 <Ammler> then, he didn't 01:26:19 <Ammler> I thought, I saw the "other" link too 01:27:27 *** Matte has joined #openttdcoop 01:27:43 <Matte> !download win32 01:27:44 <PublicServer> Matte: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19163/openttd-trunk-r19163-windows-win32.zip 01:28:36 <Matte> !password 01:28:36 <PublicServer> Matte: staffs 01:28:44 <PublicServer> *** Matte joined the game 01:30:04 <PublicServer> *** Matte has left the game (leaving) 01:35:07 *** Matte has quit IRC 01:41:45 *** Polygon has quit IRC 01:42:47 *** OwenS has quit IRC 01:52:33 *** Xaroth_ has joined #openttdcoop 01:59:14 *** Xaroth has quit IRC 02:08:06 <PublicServer> *** Thraxian joined the game 02:09:32 <PublicServer> *** Thraxian has left the game (connection lost) 02:13:16 *** pugi has quit IRC 02:15:16 *** KenjiE20|LT has quit IRC 02:45:19 *** Fuco has quit IRC 02:56:28 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 03:36:41 *** devilsadvocate has quit IRC 03:58:07 *** Phazorx has left #openttdcoop 04:07:44 *** gr00vy has quit IRC 04:08:14 *** gr00vy has joined #openttdcoop 04:49:46 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop 04:53:28 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 05:29:40 *** Xaroth_ has quit IRC 06:01:13 *** Qanael has quit IRC 07:03:45 *** Benny_ has joined #openttdcoop 07:03:48 <Benny_> !players 07:03:50 <PublicServer> Benny_: Client 79 is roboboy, a spectator 07:04:01 <Benny_> !dl win32 07:04:01 <PublicServer> Benny_: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19163/openttd-trunk-r19163-windows-win32.zip 07:10:48 *** mrcool has quit IRC 07:35:05 *** ^Spike^ has joined #openttdcoop 07:35:05 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ^Spike^ 07:39:15 *** mitooo has joined #openttdcoop 07:51:45 *** mixrin has quit IRC 07:57:13 <Benny_> !password 07:57:14 <PublicServer> Benny_: bleary 07:57:24 <PublicServer> *** Player joined the game 07:57:25 <Webster> Player, please change your in game nick 07:58:16 <PublicServer> *** Player has changed his/her name to Benny 07:58:20 <PublicServer> <Benny> sure 07:59:56 *** Benny_ is now known as Benny 08:03:41 *** Benny has quit IRC 08:03:48 <PublicServer> *** Benny has left the game (leaving) 08:05:55 <mitooo> !password 08:05:55 <PublicServer> mitooo: bleary 08:06:15 <PublicServer> *** Mitooo joined the game 08:36:14 *** Intexon has joined #openttdcoop 08:36:44 <PublicServer> *** Intexon joined the game 08:39:45 *** Benny has joined #openttdcoop 08:39:50 <Benny> !players 08:39:52 <PublicServer> Benny: Client 181 (Orange) is Mitooo, in company 1 (Sonhill Transport) 08:39:52 <PublicServer> Benny: Client 79 is roboboy, a spectator 08:39:52 <PublicServer> Benny: Client 183 is Intexon, a spectator 08:39:59 <Benny> !password 08:39:59 <PublicServer> Benny: rifled 08:40:14 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 08:40:16 <PublicServer> *** Benny joined the game 08:46:37 *** mixrin has joined #openttdcoop 08:50:06 *** Phazorx has joined #openttdcoop 08:56:49 <PublicServer> *** Benny has joined spectators 08:56:49 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 09:00:17 *** pasteur has joined #openttdcoop 09:08:40 *** mixrin has quit IRC 09:23:08 *** pasteur has quit IRC 09:25:12 <PublicServer> *** Benny has left the game (leaving) 09:25:14 *** Benny has quit IRC 09:25:41 <PublicServer> *** Mitooo has left the game (leaving) 09:29:32 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop 09:31:31 *** V453000_ has joined #openttdcoop 09:35:12 <V453000_> !password 09:35:12 <PublicServer> V453000_: polled 09:35:28 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 09:35:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> no new plans :| 09:35:53 *** mitooo has quit IRC 09:35:56 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 09:37:24 *** pasteur has joined #openttdcoop 09:42:32 *** NasA_ has joined #openttdcoop 09:44:34 *** Pirate87 has joined #openttdcoop 09:44:55 <PublicServer> *** NasA joined the game 09:45:01 <Pirate87> !screem 09:45:05 <Pirate87> !screen 09:45:05 <PublicServer> *** Pirate87 liked to make screenshot of last action, but nobody was working since. (http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png) 09:45:38 <PublicServer> <NasA> hi it didnt start voting yet? 09:48:02 <PublicServer> *** NasA has left the game (leaving) 09:49:23 *** Techinica has joined #openttdcoop 09:53:33 *** TinoM has joined #openttdcoop 09:57:18 <V453000_> !password 09:57:18 <PublicServer> V453000_: spaded 09:57:30 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 09:57:54 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has joined spectators 09:59:11 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 10:02:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> lol why do we have Sonhill airport further away than the sign "Sonhill Airport" :D it should be on the other side normally :) 10:02:51 <^Spike^> it makes money right? :) 10:03:23 <V453000_> yeah 10:03:26 <V453000_> doesnt matter 10:16:40 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 10:20:32 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 10:20:36 *** einKarl has joined #openttdcoop 10:25:08 *** pasteur has quit IRC 10:26:17 *** pasteur has joined #openttdcoop 10:37:09 *** NasA_ has quit IRC 10:40:04 *** pasteur has quit IRC 10:40:18 *** pasteur has joined #openttdcoop 10:47:49 *** Xaroth has joined #openttdcoop 10:49:19 *** devilsadvocate has joined #openttdcoop 10:49:54 *** Pirate87 has quit IRC 10:54:29 *** Pirate87 has joined #openttdcoop 10:57:39 <PublicServer> *** Intexon has left the game (connection lost) 11:01:08 *** pasteur has quit IRC 11:07:58 *** mitooo has joined #openttdcoop 11:08:05 <mitooo> !password 11:08:05 <PublicServer> mitooo: sunset 11:08:19 <PublicServer> *** Mitooo joined the game 11:08:40 <PublicServer> *** Mitooo has left the game (leaving) 11:09:24 *** Fuco has joined #openttdcoop 11:09:59 *** LilimaZennen has joined #openttdcoop 11:12:56 *** V453000_ has quit IRC 11:13:55 *** V453000_ has joined #openttdcoop 11:18:41 *** V453000_ has quit IRC 11:25:20 *** Polygon has joined #openttdcoop 11:26:57 *** highpinger has joined #openttdcoop 11:41:12 *** OwenS has joined #openttdcoop 11:41:13 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v OwenS 11:42:10 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 11:42:10 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 11:59:57 *** pasteur has joined #openttdcoop 12:11:04 *** mixrin has joined #openttdcoop 12:17:53 *** Intexon has quit IRC 12:23:15 *** mixrin has quit IRC 12:26:52 <Pirate87> still not voting ? 12:27:00 *** mrcool has joined #openttdcoop 12:27:22 <Paul2> !playercount 12:27:22 <PublicServer> Paul2: Number of players: 1 12:27:37 <mrcool> !info 12:27:37 <PublicServer> mrcool: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Sonhill Transport' Year Founded: 1950 Money: 72908881 Loan: 0 Value: 73120459 (T:0, R:0, P:3, S:0) unprotected 12:28:07 <Pirate87> @roulette 12:28:07 *** Pirate87 was kicked by Webster (BANG!) 12:28:08 * Webster reloads and spins the chambers. 12:28:15 *** Pirate87 has joined #openttdcoop 12:38:18 <PeterT> @dict head 12:38:20 <Webster> PeterT: wn: head n 1: the upper part of the human body or the front part of the body in animals; contains the face and brains; "he stuck his head out the window" [syn: {caput}] 2: a single domestic animal; "200 head of cattle" 3: that which is responsible for one's thoughts and feelings; the seat of the faculty of reason; "his mind wandered"; "I couldn't get his words out of my head" (11 more messages) 12:38:37 <PeterT> @dict heed 12:38:38 <Webster> PeterT: wn: heed n : paying particular notice (as to children or helpless people); "his attentiveness to her wishes"; "he spends without heed to the consequences" [syn: {attentiveness}, {regard}, {paying attention}] [ant: {inattentiveness}] v : pay close attention to; give heed to; "Heed the advice of the old men" [syn: {mind}, {listen}] 12:49:09 <mrcool> !dl win64 12:49:09 <PublicServer> mrcool: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19163/openttd-trunk-r19163-windows-win64.zip 12:49:25 <mrcool> !password 12:49:25 <PublicServer> mrcool: bawled 12:49:35 <PublicServer> *** mrcool joined the game 12:51:01 <PeterT> !revision 12:51:01 <PublicServer> PeterT: Game version is r19163 12:52:27 <PublicServer> *** Thraxian joined the game 12:56:56 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000032AE: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000032AE.png 13:00:02 *** pasteur_ has joined #openttdcoop 13:01:21 *** pasteur has quit IRC 13:01:29 *** pasteur_ is now known as pasteur 13:04:08 *** highpinger has quit IRC 13:10:37 *** [com]buster has joined #openttdcoop 13:10:37 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o [com]buster 13:13:36 *** Chillosophy has joined #openttdcoop 13:13:57 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop 13:13:57 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 13:14:18 <Pirate87> !help 13:14:19 <PublicServer> Pirate87: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands 13:14:51 <[com]buster> A pirate that says "help" ? 13:14:57 <[com]buster> I thought thay said "arrrr" 13:15:01 <[com]buster> :) 13:15:23 <roboboy> hello 13:19:00 <Pirate87> drop the 'arrr' guys 13:21:01 <Pirate87> it's really annoying 13:23:24 <[com]buster> It's your nick :( 13:24:13 <Pirate87> i know, but I really don't like the whole 'arrr' thing 13:25:13 <Pirate87> don't know where it came from, but it always annoyed me 13:26:48 <[com]buster> Man, that's a hole in your education O.o 13:27:10 <Pirate87> anyway, any idea when the voting might start ? 13:28:00 <Pirate87> [com]buster, what ?? 13:28:05 <[com]buster> It probably should by now... 13:28:31 <[com]buster> I'm compiling a build right now 13:29:03 <Pirate87> how long does it usually take ? 13:29:36 <[com]buster> I think this game has been running for 36 hours without voting, which is *long* 13:29:53 <mrcool> i'm ready to vote : ) 13:30:29 <Pirate87> i meant voting itself 13:30:42 <[com]buster> usually around 24 hours 13:30:50 <[com]buster> depends on how things go 13:31:11 <Pirate87> i'm out then, see you in a couple hours 13:31:47 *** Pirate87 has quit IRC 13:32:02 <[com]buster> !password 13:32:02 <PublicServer> [com]buster: vatted 13:32:07 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 13:32:08 <PublicServer> *** Combuster joined the game 13:32:09 <mrcool> okey, I just ask because I'm knew here. Why have not the voting startet yet? 13:32:45 <PublicServer> <Combuster> It might as well start now 13:33:08 <mrcool> okey : ) 13:34:06 *** ostannard has joined #openttdcoop 13:35:56 <[com]buster> mrcool: go ahead :) 13:37:08 <PublicServer> <roboboy> I wont be voting 13:37:22 <PublicServer> <roboboy> ill end up being biased 13:39:58 <PublicServer> *** ostannard joined the game 13:40:30 <PublicServer> <Combuster> lol, 3-way tie 13:40:35 <mrcool> haha ;D 13:40:49 <mrcool> how long does the voting usually takes? 13:41:18 <PublicServer> <Combuster> normally, until next evening (CET) 13:41:32 <PublicServer> <mrcool> okey 13:41:35 <PublicServer> <Combuster> because that's when there are most people around 13:41:45 <PublicServer> <Combuster> (and as such, most votes) 13:41:52 <PublicServer> <mrcool> yes 13:41:58 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00005C5C: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00005C5C.png 13:42:26 <PublicServer> *** roboboy has joined company #1 13:43:08 <OwenS> !dl lin64 13:43:09 <PublicServer> OwenS: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19163/openttd-trunk-r19163-linux-generic-amd64.tar.bz2 13:44:01 <OwenS> !password 13:44:01 <PublicServer> OwenS: smarts 13:44:12 <PublicServer> *** Owen joined the game 13:44:49 *** pugi has quit IRC 13:45:25 <PublicServer> <Owen> Combuster: Isn't "TGV-NG" normally called ICE-SBahn? :P 13:45:25 <PublicServer> *** roboboy has joined spectators 13:45:32 <PublicServer> <Combuster> no, it isn't 13:45:49 <PublicServer> <Owen> Oh, local networks for food+water, I see 13:45:50 <^Spike^> see wiki? ;) 13:46:13 <[com]buster> www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Gametype:TGV-ng 13:46:15 <[com]buster> iirc< 13:46:42 <^Spike^> @wiki tgv-ng 13:46:50 <Webster> Search results for "tgv-ng" - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Special:Search?go=Go&search=tgv-ng 13:47:10 <[com]buster> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Gametype:TGV_NG 13:47:14 <^Spike^> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Gametype:TGV_NG 13:47:16 <[com]buster> almost correct :) 13:47:16 <^Spike^> odd 13:47:17 <^Spike^> idd :) 13:48:05 <PeterT> are we voting? 13:48:09 <PublicServer> <Owen> We are 13:48:09 <[com]buster> we are, yes 13:48:17 <^Spike^> @stage Voting 13:48:17 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #177 (r19163) | STAGE: Voting | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart & !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | Welcome to the depths of insanity" 13:48:20 <PublicServer> <Owen> This points based voting makes thingsmore difficult :P 13:48:45 <PublicServer> <roboboy> yeah 13:48:52 <PublicServer> <Combuster> the results are rather biased atm 13:49:02 <PublicServer> <Combuster> the only voters so far are also plan-makers 13:49:09 <PublicServer> <roboboy> my vote is obviously biased 13:49:20 <PublicServer> <Combuster> roboboy's plan: 13:49:26 <PublicServer> <Combuster> worst+worst+best 13:49:27 <PublicServer> *** Peter joined the game 13:49:32 <PublicServer> <Combuster> how interesting :) 13:49:43 <PublicServer> <mrcool> :p 13:50:03 <PublicServer> <Combuster> but at least one person likes your plan :) 13:50:25 <PublicServer> <Peter> we have to fill all ten slots? holy shit 13:50:46 <PublicServer> <Combuster> Peter: we can always make room for more :) 13:50:56 <PublicServer> *** ostannard has joined company #1 13:50:57 <PublicServer> <roboboy> well i got a 4 13:51:56 <PublicServer> * Owen waits for Peter to vote fully before recalculating totals 13:52:33 <PublicServer> *** Spike joined the game 13:53:20 <PublicServer> <Combuster> Peter: you do need to place all 5 numbers 13:53:33 <PublicServer> <Peter> not done yet ;-) 13:53:41 <PublicServer> <roboboy> thinking? 13:53:44 <PublicServer> <Combuster> ok, then I said nothing :)< 13:54:35 <PublicServer> <Owen> Things would be easier if it was legal to use non-integer numbers :p 13:54:49 <PublicServer> <roboboy> hm nah 13:54:50 <PublicServer> <Combuster> 0, 1, i , e, pi? :) 13:54:58 <PublicServer> <Owen> 5, 2.5, 2.5, 2.5, 2.5 :P 13:54:59 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 13:55:22 <PublicServer> <Owen> I don't even want to comtemplate how i would work as a vote :p 13:55:25 <PublicServer> <Combuster> thanks, Owen :) 13:55:28 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop 13:56:23 <PublicServer> <Owen> My favorite game types are pax, and cargo involving insane rebuilds... I'm not so sure any of the cargos would involve insane rebuilds, so... :P 13:57:00 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00005454: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00005454.png 13:57:20 <PublicServer> <Combuster> hmm, we should probably extend the voting board a bit 14:00:08 <V453000> !password 14:00:08 <PublicServer> V453000: plying 14:01:14 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 14:01:16 <OwenS> Incidentally, since there are still no 2009 games in the hall of fame, I nominate #152 :p 14:01:16 <PublicServer> <Peter> roboboy: You should vote 14:01:47 <PublicServer> <Combuster> Peter: he did vote 14:01:48 <PublicServer> <roboboy> Peter: I did 14:01:49 <PublicServer> <Combuster> long before you 14:01:55 <PublicServer> <Peter> Oh, oops 14:02:02 <PublicServer> <Peter> Didn't look through them previous votes 14:02:10 <PeterT> @psgsave 152 14:02:10 <Webster> PSG 152 Archive entry; http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/PublicServer:Archive_-_Games_151_-_160#gameid_152 14:02:36 <PeterT> I loved 152, I also vote for that 14:03:00 <^Spike^> 152.. that one with that experimental exit? 14:03:12 <OwenS> Yes. And 1000 rebuilds :p 14:03:20 <^Spike^> my way rebuilds! :FD 14:03:21 <^Spike^> :D 14:04:51 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 14:05:14 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 14:05:19 <V453000> waaa 14:05:21 <V453000> !password 14:05:21 <PublicServer> V453000: plying 14:05:24 *** pasteur has quit IRC 14:05:39 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 14:05:49 <[com]buster> OwenS: I nominated #157 14:05:55 *** pasteur has joined #openttdcoop 14:06:02 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 14:06:47 <[com]buster> you can probably guess why, once you see it :) 14:07:14 <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (leaving) 14:07:22 <^Spike^> oeh.. both are nice.. 14:07:24 <V453000> 157 is it for me 14:07:40 <OwenS> Can we not have multiple HoF games per year? :P 14:08:13 <PublicServer> <Combuster> Sure we can 14:08:45 <PublicServer> <Combuster> Even we managed to have three installments of goverment in a year's time 14:09:24 <PublicServer> <Combuster> hall of fame should be exceptional games, and some years are more productive than others 14:09:30 <PublicServer> *** Combuster has left the game (leaving) 14:10:21 <OwenS> 152 qualifies for having every train ramming through one station :p 14:10:57 <PublicServer> *** Peter has left the game (leaving) 14:11:31 <PublicServer> *** ostannard has joined spectators 14:11:51 <[com]buster> so did 176... 14:12:02 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00005856: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00005856.png 14:12:08 <[com]buster> but admitted, eyecandy is good 14:12:12 <^Spike^> but 152 did it with every resource.. :) 14:12:18 <^Spike^> not just wood :) 14:12:55 <[com]buster> it is only a third of the cargo 14:13:55 <PublicServer> *** Owen has left the game (leaving) 14:13:56 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 14:14:16 <PublicServer> *** ostannard has left the game (leaving) 14:14:16 <[com]buster> and not nearly as crammed 14:14:20 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> who did the math on the voting board? 14:14:25 <PublicServer> *** Thraxian has joined company #1 14:14:25 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 14:14:52 <[com]buster> Part of it? 14:15:00 <OwenS> [com]buster: Huh? Wasn't #176 100k cargo? 14:15:12 <[com]buster> it was 14:15:20 <OwenS> 152 has 120k transported 14:15:28 <[com]buster> that means 1.2M cargo/year 14:15:38 <[com]buster> not 450k cargo/year 14:18:49 *** jondisti has joined #openttdcoop 14:19:11 <OwenS> In any case, 176 doesn't qualify as a HoF game for 2009 :p 14:19:35 <[com]buster> Not my point :p 14:20:24 <[com]buster> TBH: 152 is a good game, but not necessarily exceptional 14:20:34 *** mixrin has joined #openttdcoop 14:20:48 <jondisti> !password 14:20:48 <PublicServer> jondisti: hearth 14:20:59 <PublicServer> *** jond1sti joined the game 14:21:24 <PublicServer> *** Combuster joined the game 14:23:36 <PublicServer> <Combuster> doublechecked your math, and fixed the results 14:23:45 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> thanks 14:23:46 *** mixrin has quit IRC 14:24:03 <PublicServer> <Combuster> I doubt we'll find out who's the discalculi here 14:24:07 *** mixrin has joined #openttdcoop 14:24:09 <PublicServer> *** Owen joined the game 14:24:14 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> we can - with a look at the logs :) 14:24:25 <PublicServer> <Combuster> and even then 14:24:36 <PublicServer> <Combuster> some updates were made during another voting 14:24:53 <PublicServer> <Combuster> so it might have just as well been a race condition 14:25:00 <PublicServer> <Combuster> I wouldn't bother 14:25:14 <PublicServer> <Combuster> just double check before declaring a winner :) 14:25:35 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> i just added a vote 14:26:11 <PublicServer> <Owen> And I ammended the totals (On the assumption the existing ones were now correct :P ) 14:26:40 <PublicServer> <Combuster> conclusion is still the same 14:26:55 <PublicServer> <Combuster> neck-to-nect between Thraxian, CB and yours truly... 14:26:56 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> ? 14:27:04 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00005A57: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00005A57.png 14:27:04 <PublicServer> *** Progman has left the game (connection lost) 14:27:19 <PublicServer> <Owen> one person's vote can change the leader 14:27:45 <PublicServer> *** Progman joined the game 14:27:45 *** mixrin has quit IRC 14:27:52 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> i'll actually change my top 2 votes 14:28:07 *** mixrin has joined #openttdcoop 14:29:58 <PublicServer> * roboboy has lots of 1s ): 14:30:34 <V453000> !screen 14:30:34 <V453000> !screen 14:30:34 <PublicServer> *** V453000 liked to make screenshot of last action, but nobody was working since. (http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png) 14:30:34 <PublicServer> *** V453000 liked to make screenshot of last action, but nobody was working since. (http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png) 14:30:58 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> I'm doing math in another window 14:31:26 <PublicServer> *** Progman has left the game (leaving) 14:32:08 *** mixrin_ has joined #openttdcoop 14:32:08 *** mixrin has quit IRC 14:33:28 <^Spike^> !password 14:33:28 <PublicServer> ^Spike^: unpaid 14:33:34 <PublicServer> *** Spike joined the game 14:34:19 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> trying to determine if changing the number of votes each player gets makes a difference, but to no avail 14:39:06 <Progman> what about the average number of votes? maybe even geometrical mean 14:42:06 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000146CF: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000146CF.png 14:42:44 <roboboy> gnight 14:42:57 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> night? :P 14:43:36 <roboboy> its 1:45 AM here 14:43:49 *** mixrin_ has quit IRC 14:44:19 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> where's that? 14:44:27 <roboboy> Sydney 14:45:13 *** pasteur has quit IRC 14:45:18 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> cool 14:45:23 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> good night then :P 14:46:29 <PeterT> see you in 7 hours 14:46:37 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> if we go by average, Booth wins, Combuster 2nd, Thraxian 3rd 14:47:35 * OwenS wonders what happens by cascading vote 14:47:52 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> If we drop vote count to 3, Booth and Combuster are tied, with Thraxian 3 behind 14:48:42 <OwenS> (Cascading vote = You add up the 5s for each contestant. Contestant with least 5s is discarded, and the people who picked them's 4s are counted. Repeat until you have the winner) 14:49:17 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> wait a sec - my input numbers were wrong 14:49:34 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> averages are still Thraxian, Combuster, Booth 14:50:13 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> top 4 votes is same, top 3 votes has Thraxian and Combuster tied 14:50:49 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> working now on eliminating the bottom two plans and recomputing totals 14:51:50 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> dropping the last two plans, and recalculating puts Booth first, Combuster 2nd, and Thraxian 3rd 14:52:42 * OwenS does a cascade 14:52:46 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> doh - still doing math wrong 14:56:32 <OwenS> Hmm 14:56:44 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> I think we just need more votes :) 14:56:49 <OwenS> Cascade fail: After doing one elimination (Which removes mrcool & roboboy) I get a 3 way tie :p 14:57:09 <^Spike^> :) 14:57:10 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> really? I get Thraxian: 19, Combuster: 18, Booth: 17 14:57:34 <Progman> or simply use the one with the most votes ;) 14:57:36 <OwenS> Thraxian: I'm doing cascading votes. I.E, eliminate the bottom contender, then redistribute their votes 14:57:44 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> yeah - I did that too 14:57:56 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> ( I think) 14:58:28 <OwenS> Both mrcool & roboboy get 1 5, so get discarded. Each of the people who voted for them's 4s are now counted, adding a vote each for CB & Combuster, bringing all 3 up to 3 votes for :p 14:58:53 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> I didn't do that, then :) 14:59:15 * OwenS experiments where the votes are weighted 15:00:01 <OwenS> then thraxian wins by a point :p 15:03:21 *** Condac- has quit IRC 15:03:23 <ostannard> !password 15:03:23 <PublicServer> ostannard: waiter 15:03:35 <PublicServer> *** ostannard joined the game 15:07:23 *** dutchlisa has joined #openttdcoop 15:09:37 <PublicServer> *** Thraxian has joined spectators 15:09:57 <PublicServer> *** ostannard has left the game (leaving) 15:10:23 <PeterT> Hello dutchlisa 15:10:26 <PeterT> again :-) 15:10:31 <PublicServer> *** Owen has joined spectators 15:10:44 <dutchlisa> Hi Peter! ^^ 15:11:43 *** mixrin_ has joined #openttdcoop 15:13:58 *** Intexon has joined #openttdcoop 15:14:06 <dutchlisa> Peter! ^^ 15:14:51 <PublicServer> *** Intexon joined the game 15:15:55 <PublicServer> *** Intexon has joined company #1 15:17:38 <PublicServer> *** Intexon has joined spectators 15:18:58 <V453000> !password 15:18:58 <PublicServer> V453000: minced 15:19:37 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 15:19:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> wow even 15:21:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> is it allowed to change my vote? 15:22:59 <PublicServer> <Owen> V453000: If you're going to do it, change the totals at the same tiem 15:23:03 <jondisti> i did earlier :P 15:23:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> right 15:23:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> thx 15:23:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> Thraxian wins! :D 15:23:34 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 15:23:46 <PublicServer> *** Owen has joined company #1 15:24:21 <PublicServer> * Owen spys a tie :p 15:26:22 <V453000> !screen 15:26:24 <PublicServer> *** V453000 made screenshot at 00005C58: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00005C58.png 15:28:25 *** Bluelight has joined #openttdcoop 15:37:43 <PublicServer> *** Progman joined the game 15:40:41 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> Combuster, you around? 15:41:45 <PublicServer> *** Progman has left the game (leaving) 15:42:08 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000142C5: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000142C5.png 15:45:26 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop 15:46:29 <Chris_Booth> !password 15:46:29 <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: barber 15:46:41 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 15:46:45 <Progman> so Thraxians plan won? 15:46:59 <PeterT> !screen 15:47:02 <PublicServer> *** PeterT made screenshot at 00004864: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00004864.png 15:47:49 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i dont think so 15:47:52 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> its a draw ATM 15:48:17 <PublicServer> *** Amm1er joined the game 15:48:50 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> Amm1er: you going to vote? 15:49:10 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> don't think so... 15:49:15 <PublicServer> *** Peter joined the game 15:49:28 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> realy? why not, we need another vote to stop the draw 15:50:04 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> I was wondering if my plan would work in tandem with Combusters? 15:50:13 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> mine for cargo, ihs for pax 15:50:39 <PublicServer> <Spike> so 2 long trains networks? 15:50:47 <PublicServer> <Spike> risk is.. more focus on one 15:50:48 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> I don't have an outer ring, so we're not fighting each other for real estate out there 15:50:49 <PublicServer> <Spike> then the other 15:50:51 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> Thraxian: i dont know if it would, game where we have transported pax and cargo havent been that great 15:51:00 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> my point exactly 15:51:01 <jondisti> space could be a problem.. 15:51:30 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> Thraxian hasn't voted 15:52:34 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i am amazed the my plan is only 2 points off Thraxians, and Combusters plans 15:52:59 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> no trainset? 15:53:16 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> by the looks of it no 15:53:43 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> Thraxian: quite a lot signs to read ;-) 15:53:52 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> heh - you know me :) 15:54:06 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> give you votes based on sign numbers 15:55:03 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> big TL game? 15:55:08 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> why is that? 15:55:19 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> says on the message board 15:55:51 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> popular demand, lol 15:55:58 <V453000> sox- 15:56:03 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> are V453000 and jondisti the same person? or is jondisti copying V? 15:56:13 <V453000> CB: ? 15:56:16 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i didnt demand it, not sure who did 15:56:17 <V453000> the points? 15:56:44 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> doesn't matter, it is decided, I just wonder about the reason. 15:56:45 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yeah, jondisti gave same score as you lol 15:56:51 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> 1 person after you 15:57:04 <V453000> Ammler: probably none :| someone just wanted 15:57:10 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000605A: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000605A.png 15:57:18 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> V, I guess, so :-) 15:59:54 <PublicServer> <Peter> where is the .void station? 16:00:01 <PublicServer> <Peter> wait, let me load station grf gui 16:00:03 <PublicServer> *** Peter has left the game (leaving) 16:00:27 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> § 16:01:29 <PublicServer> *** Peter joined the game 16:01:29 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> Chris Booth: i'm not copying anyone, that's just my opinion :P 16:01:45 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i was only messing 16:01:48 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> :D 16:05:23 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (connection lost) 16:05:41 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (connection lost) 16:06:05 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (connection lost) 16:07:13 *** Bluelight has quit IRC 16:08:27 <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (leaving) 16:09:40 *** zerpa has joined #openttdcoop 16:09:54 <zerpa> !password 16:09:54 <PublicServer> zerpa: tanner 16:10:20 <PublicServer> *** Player joined the game 16:10:20 <Webster> Player, please change your in game nick 16:12:12 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00010E9D: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00010E9D.png 16:12:42 *** ziza has joined #openttdcoop 16:12:59 <ziza> !password 16:12:59 <PublicServer> ziza: tattle 16:13:15 *** mixrin_ has quit IRC 16:13:39 <PublicServer> *** ZiZa joined the game 16:15:37 <PublicServer> *** ZiZa has left the game (leaving) 16:21:24 <PublicServer> *** jond1sti has left the game (leaving) 16:21:30 <PublicServer> *** Peter has left the game (leaving) 16:21:34 <PeterT> !playercount 16:21:35 <PublicServer> PeterT: Number of players: 8 16:22:27 <Progman> !players 16:22:28 <PublicServer> Progman: Client 196 (Orange) is mrcool, in company 1 (Sonhill Transport) 16:22:28 <PublicServer> Progman: Client 79 is roboboy, a spectator 16:22:28 <PublicServer> Progman: Client 198 is Thraxian, a spectator 16:22:28 <PublicServer> Progman: Client 216 (Orange) is Combuster, in company 1 (Sonhill Transport) 16:22:28 <PublicServer> Progman: Client 218 (Orange) is Owen, in company 1 (Sonhill Transport) 16:22:30 <PublicServer> Progman: Client 225 is Intexon, a spectator 16:22:30 <PublicServer> Progman: Client 240 is Player, a spectator 16:22:32 <PublicServer> Progman: Client 230 (Orange) is Amm1er, in company 1 (Sonhill Transport) 16:23:32 <PeterT> /msg PublicServer !players 16:24:49 *** PeterT_ has joined #openttdcoop 16:27:02 *** PeterT_ has quit IRC 16:28:10 <Ammler> PeterT: stop moderating members :-P 16:31:53 <PublicServer> <Owen> w00t £100mil 16:32:37 *** callcolor has joined #openttdcoop 16:33:15 <callcolor> !dl win32 16:33:15 <PublicServer> callcolor: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19163/openttd-trunk-r19163-windows-win32.zip 16:37:17 <PublicServer> * Owen wishes the vote would finish sooner, lol 16:37:49 <PublicServer> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 16:37:50 *** PeterT_ has joined #openttdcoop 16:39:21 <Progman> the votes should be hold on a website so during the game N the vote for game N+1 could be take place ;) 16:39:44 *** PeterT_ has quit IRC 16:39:51 <Progman> and after game N you immediately start with game N+1 and vote for plans for game N+2 16:40:02 <OwenS> Progman: How would the plans be designed? 16:40:28 <Progman> savegames 16:41:26 <Progman> like 1-2 days for map settings, than a savegame is generated, users dl and check the games, create a screenshot of their plans, uploads them for vote 16:41:50 <Progman> whole process will take ~5 days, parallel to the current running game 16:43:46 <Progman> and if the current game is finished you can start directly with the next one ;) 16:45:53 <gleeb> While I like that it would preserve plans, I hate that it's so terribly different. 16:47:05 <Progman> it would allow some forum-like discussions about the plans 16:48:57 <V453000> Progman: cool idea 16:49:02 <KenjiE20> sounds terribly long-winded and confusing 16:49:24 <callcolor> !password 16:49:24 <PublicServer> callcolor: retina 16:49:53 <PublicServer> *** callcolor joined the game 16:50:18 *** Pirate87 has joined #openttdcoop 16:50:24 <PublicServer> <Combuster> Also, planners will not know if they around at the start of next game... 16:50:41 <Pirate87> !password 16:50:42 <PublicServer> Pirate87: retina 16:51:25 *** mixrin has joined #openttdcoop 16:51:40 <PeterT> @dict raving 16:51:40 <PublicServer> *** Pirate87 joined the game 16:51:41 <Webster> PeterT: wn: raving adj : talking or behaving irrationally; "a raving lunatic" [syn: {raving mad}, {wild}] n : declaiming wildly; "the raving of maniacs" adv : in a raving manner; "raving mad" [syn: {ravingly}] 16:51:56 <PublicServer> *** Pirate87 has joined company #1 16:52:30 <PublicServer> <callcolor> its my first time here. i'll try not to mess anything up. 16:52:42 <KenjiE20> @quickstart 16:52:44 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 16:52:46 <KenjiE20> ^ callcolor 16:52:54 <KenjiE20> try the link at the end 16:52:54 <PublicServer> <callcolor> already there 16:53:07 <OwenS> Does Webster not have an @tell to join AP's !tell? 16:53:16 <KenjiE20> yes 16:53:18 <Phazorx> Progman: actually that has been suggested before, unfortunately no one liked my proposal 16:53:27 <PeterT> @tell PeterT testing 16:53:30 <KenjiE20> but Webster config means it's on /query only 16:53:51 <PublicServer> <Owen> 12 Votes: Thrax/44 CB/43 Comb/46 Mrc/26 Robo/21 16:57:15 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00005C5C: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00005C5C.png 16:57:47 <PeterT> Hmm, interesting shot 16:57:53 <gleeb> nice screen 16:57:58 <[com]buster> lol 16:58:21 <[com]buster> not even cactii... 16:58:41 <PublicServer> *** callcolor has joined company #1 16:59:55 *** mixrin has quit IRC 17:02:55 <callcolor> so far this is great fun :) 17:03:07 <PublicServer> <Owen> Voting is the most boring part :P 17:03:10 <PublicServer> <Owen> By a large margin 17:03:16 <PublicServer> <Combuster> the vote's rather exciting today 17:03:34 <PublicServer> <callcolor> are we waiting for someone's vote? 17:03:54 <PublicServer> <Combuster> Some of the members will have to declare a winner 17:04:02 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> you really don't want me to vote.... 17:04:17 <PublicServer> <Owen> Thraxian: No, I don't :-P 17:04:33 <PublicServer> <Combuster> Thrax: I can change my 5 into a 1 ;) 17:04:36 <V453000> Thraxian: if you vote for yourself, I want :D 17:04:54 <PublicServer> *** Spike joined the game 17:04:57 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> I tend not to vote for myself - it shows bias :) 17:05:09 <PublicServer> <Combuster> TBH, everybody else did 17:05:16 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> Combuster didn't 17:05:23 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> hehe :) 17:05:26 <PublicServer> <Spike> the 5 points shouldn't go to your own plan imo 17:05:34 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> that's what I meant, Spike 17:05:41 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> ok, I'll vote 17:05:48 <PublicServer> *** Thraxian has joined company #1 17:06:10 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> I won't give myself a 5 - but a 4 I'll do 17:06:19 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> my other favorite plan is ..... 17:06:24 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> Booths :) 17:06:35 <PublicServer> <Spike> 5 should go to the plan you think is the best that ISN'T your own in my opinion.. :) 17:06:38 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> not really in a pax mood (sorry Combuster), so I'll do 17:07:04 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> vote cast :) 17:07:05 <PublicServer> <Owen> 48/48/48/29/22 lol 17:07:17 <V453000> ^lol 17:07:22 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> told you that yuo didn't want me to vote :) 17:07:54 <PublicServer> <Combuster> There's one thing in there that absolutely not correct 17:07:55 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> makes the decision ALL that much harder to make 17:08:33 <PublicServer> *** Pirate87 has left the game (connection lost) 17:09:05 <PublicServer> <Owen> 48/47/48/29/23 17:09:12 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> who changed their vote? 17:09:15 <PublicServer> <Combuster> I did 17:09:24 <PublicServer> <Combuster> like I said, one thing is terribly wrong 17:09:34 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> elaborate? 17:10:07 <PublicServer> <Combuster> CB leading 17:10:09 <PublicServer> <Combuster> :) 17:10:24 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> what happens if we ignore the votes of the plan makers? 17:10:48 <PublicServer> <Combuster> good question 17:11:02 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> Combuster wins 17:11:07 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> 30/30/33/?/? 17:11:51 <PublicServer> <callcolor> i vote we mix things up this time and build the plan with the least votes 17:12:02 <PublicServer> <Combuster> you don't want that 17:12:06 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> yegosh, no :) 17:12:17 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00006A5B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00006A5B.png 17:12:19 <PublicServer> <Owen> Least votes tends to be for a reason ;-) 17:12:48 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> I'm not going to be around as much this weekend as I'd like, and I really like my plan this time, BUT I'm considering withdrawing it for the good of the community.... 17:12:49 <PublicServer> <callcolor> ouch 17:12:57 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> how would that screw the votes up? 17:13:04 <PublicServer> <Combuster> er, revoting? 17:13:23 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> if we redistribute votes, ignoring votes for my plan - what's the score? 17:14:51 <PublicServer> <callcolor> maybe someone could set up a system to send an email when the voting is complete? 17:15:18 <OwenS> callcolor: Too much overhead 17:15:29 <KenjiE20> just lurk 17:15:36 <KenjiE20> it what evenyone else does :P 17:15:40 <KenjiE20> everyone* 17:15:40 <PublicServer> <callcolor> i can tell you guys don't like complex systems :) 17:15:49 <KenjiE20> also; twitter 17:15:52 <KenjiE20> if we remember 17:15:53 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> without me, votes are 40/42/27/21 17:15:53 <PublicServer> <Owen> callcolor: Outside the game we don't :p 17:16:08 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> Kenji, care to vote? 17:16:09 *** Pirate87 has quit IRC 17:16:14 <KenjiE20> not really 17:16:28 <KenjiE20> Last time I looked none of the plans caught my eye tbh 17:16:30 <PublicServer> <Combuster> Thrax, same results here 17:19:02 * [com]buster prods ODM and Ammler 17:19:17 <[com]buster> we need a tie breaker... 17:19:33 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> @coin 17:19:50 <OwenS> @coin 17:19:50 <Webster> OwenS: heads 17:20:00 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> who was heads? 17:20:04 <[com]buster> :) 17:20:05 <V453000> head one two or three? :D 17:20:07 <PeterT> PublicServer? 17:20:15 <PeterT> how many plans are there? 17:20:20 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> Heads, I win. Tails, you lose. 17:20:38 <[com]buster> not a chance 17:20:46 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> not unless you're me :) 17:20:51 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> then, the chance is very good 17:21:01 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> ideal, I'd have to say 17:22:01 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> for the good of the game, I'm willing to make a sacrifice 17:22:14 *** dutchlisa has quit IRC 17:22:49 <V453000> :) 17:24:06 <[com]buster> I can't declare a winner for the obvious reason 17:24:36 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> somebody !screen for the out-of-gamers? 17:24:48 <OwenS> !screen 17:24:50 <PublicServer> *** OwenS made screenshot at 00004C5A: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00004C5A.png 17:25:04 <OwenS> Missed the middle :-( 17:26:31 <PublicServer> <Combuster> ? 17:27:19 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00006267: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00006267.png 17:27:45 <PeterT> how many plans are there? 17:27:50 <OwenS> 5 17:27:52 <PublicServer> <Combuster> 5 17:27:54 <PeterT> @dice 5d8 17:27:54 <Webster> PeterT: 5, 8, 6, 2, and 5 17:27:58 <PeterT> Ok 17:28:07 <PeterT> @dice 1d8 17:28:07 <Webster> PeterT: 2 17:28:12 <PeterT> Plan 2 wins 17:28:24 <PeterT> wait... 17:28:28 <PeterT> @dice 1d5 17:28:28 <Webster> PeterT: 4 17:28:32 <PeterT> @help dice 17:28:32 <Webster> PeterT: (dice <dice>d<sides>) -- Rolls a die with <sides> number of sides <dice> times. For example, 2d6 will roll 2 six-sided dice; 10d10 will roll 10 ten-sided dice. 17:28:36 * [com]buster slaps PeterT around a bit with a large trout 17:28:46 <PeterT> @do slap [com]buster 17:29:39 <[com]buster> luckily for you, this client doesn't support /slap 17:33:33 <[com]buster> well, let's get over with the pope elections 17:34:05 <PublicServer> <Owen> The scores currently stand at the grand totals of 45/47/51/29/23 17:39:31 <[com]buster> If I convert the table to classic voting, the result would be 4/3/6/0/0 17:39:50 <[com]buster> (assuming Thraxian's original vote) 17:40:16 <[com]buster> but as I said, I can't declare a winner 17:40:37 <jondisti> !screen 17:40:39 *** ODM has quit IRC 17:40:39 <PublicServer> *** jondisti made screenshot at 00003CB7: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00003CB7.png 17:41:55 <jondisti> !password 17:41:55 <PublicServer> jondisti: dabble 17:42:00 <PublicServer> *** jond1sti joined the game 17:42:21 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000052BA: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000052BA.png 17:43:14 <[com]buster> V453000, KenjiE20 ? 17:43:21 <KenjiE20> mm? 17:43:23 <V453000> ya? 17:43:30 <[com]buster> [19:41] <[com]buster> but as I said, I can't declare a winner 17:43:53 <KenjiE20> 4 to 6 seems fairly close run 17:44:39 <V453000> 4 6 declares the winner imo 17:45:01 *** Kenix has joined #openttdcoop 17:45:25 <PublicServer> *** Zerpa has left the game (connection lost) 17:45:35 <zerpa> !password 17:45:35 <PublicServer> zerpa: wirier 17:45:47 <PublicServer> *** Zerpa joined the game 17:45:52 <PublicServer> *** Kenix joined the game 17:47:15 *** mucht_home has quit IRC 17:47:33 *** mixrin has joined #openttdcoop 17:47:40 *** mucht_home has joined #openttdcoop 17:49:34 <[com]buster> hmmz, this is not working 17:49:48 * [com]buster goes elsewhere until there's a winner 17:51:01 *** valhallasw has joined #openttdcoop 17:57:23 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000625F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000625F.png 17:58:31 <gleeb> Now that is a plan I can get behind. 17:58:41 <PublicServer> <Zerpa> callcolors? 17:58:49 <jondisti> whic one? 17:59:05 <zerpa> screenshot :) 17:59:37 <PublicServer> <Zerpa> new lead in the vote 18:00:53 <jondisti> hah 18:12:25 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00003E63: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00003E63.png 18:16:06 *** sietse has joined #openttdcoop 18:16:15 <sietse> !dl lin 18:16:15 <PublicServer> sietse: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19163/openttd-trunk-r19163-linux-generic-i686.tar.bz2 18:18:13 *** ccfreak2k has quit IRC 18:18:33 *** ccfreak2k has joined #openttdcoop 18:18:53 <PublicServer> <Owen> rofl who's fault is it that we are at a 3 way tie again? :P 18:20:09 <sietse> !password 18:20:09 <PublicServer> sietse: cynics 18:20:23 <PublicServer> *** Sietse joined the game 18:21:53 <PublicServer> *** Sietse has joined company #1 18:23:21 <PublicServer> *** Sietse has joined spectators 18:24:22 <mitooo> !password 18:24:22 <PublicServer> mitooo: cynics 18:24:37 <PublicServer> *** Mitooo joined the game 18:25:13 <KenjiE20> ATTN: Flash Poll: Are Plans in-game a necessity for Stage: Building? 18:25:13 <mitooo> voting ended? 18:25:44 <OwenS> Nope 18:25:48 <PublicServer> <Sietse> I just casted my vote 18:26:21 <PublicServer> <Sietse> Resulting in one running ahead 18:26:50 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> Thraxian: you don't like your plan? 18:27:04 <PublicServer> <Owen> Amm1er: He voted aaginst it to end a tie :p 18:27:27 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00006267: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00006267.png 18:28:10 <PublicServer> <Owen> If we expand the voting board any further, were gonna need to move some stuff from Thrax' plan :p 18:29:37 <PublicServer> <Owen> TBH, the multiple point votes seems to have just caused lots of vote shifting 18:30:05 <sietse> just delete it :0 18:34:55 *** valhallasw has quit IRC 18:38:48 <Razaekel> !password 18:38:48 <PublicServer> Razaekel: busily 18:38:56 <PublicServer> *** Razaekel joined the game 18:40:47 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> another small map 18:41:27 <V453000> small? 18:41:40 <V453000> 512 ^2 is quite normal 18:42:00 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> it looks small 18:42:29 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00006C60: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00006C60.png 18:44:04 <PublicServer> <callcolor> would anyone be against open play until the voting is completed. then delete everything and start over. 18:44:13 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> denied 18:47:16 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> thrax's has 70 votes now 18:47:17 *** callcolor has quit IRC 18:47:20 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> CB is at 66 18:47:25 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> the rest dont count 18:48:09 <PublicServer> *** Razaekel has left the game (leaving) 18:49:20 <PublicServer> *** Owen has left the game (leaving) 18:53:06 *** Zulan has joined #openttdcoop 18:56:17 <PublicServer> *** Thraxian has joined spectators 18:57:31 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00006A5B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00006A5B.png 19:02:33 *** ziza has quit IRC 19:05:14 <PublicServer> <callcolor> oh i see my plan wasn't good enough for someone 19:07:31 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> we have a winner now? 19:08:38 *** Pirate87 has joined #openttdcoop 19:09:59 <Pirate87> !password 19:09:59 <PublicServer> Pirate87: welted 19:10:07 <PublicServer> *** Pirate87 joined the game 19:11:18 <Pirate87> is it allowed to change vote ? 19:11:28 <[com]buster> why not 19:11:33 <[com]buster> you can in normal voting 19:11:57 <PublicServer> *** Pirate87 has joined company #1 19:12:33 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000068BF: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000068BF.png 19:13:15 <PublicServer> *** callcolor has joined spectators 19:13:20 <Pirate87> there's one problem with this kind of voting 19:13:28 <PublicServer> <Combuster> yea 19:13:42 <PublicServer> <Combuster> people tend to balance voting out for the sake of it 19:13:50 <Pirate87> right 19:14:28 <PublicServer> <callcolor> what if you had 5 votes but you could give everyone 1 vote or give all 5 to one plan 19:14:47 <PublicServer> <callcolor> it would be a mix between old and new 19:15:39 <PublicServer> <Combuster> the thing is 19:15:50 <PublicServer> <Combuster> classic voting points out a different winner 19:16:47 <Pirate87> votes shouldn't be visible until voting is closed 19:16:47 <PublicServer> <Combuster> 6/4/8/0/0 atm 19:17:40 <Pirate87> and the results too 19:17:41 <PublicServer> <callcolor> well, combuster is using monorails, so he wins 19:17:43 <PublicServer> *** callcolor has left the game (leaving) 19:18:19 <[com]buster> well 19:18:25 <[com]buster> this can take a *very* long time :( 19:19:14 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> it's a while since this many people have voted 19:20:01 <PublicServer> *** Pirate87 has left the game (leaving) 19:20:06 <Pirate87> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_paradox 19:20:07 <Webster> Title: Voting paradox - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) 19:20:16 <PublicServer> *** Amm1er has left the game (connection lost) 19:28:35 <OwenS> !password 19:28:35 <PublicServer> OwenS: ushers 19:28:40 <PublicServer> *** Owen joined the game 19:30:13 <OwenS> Still voting? Grrrr 19:30:24 <PublicServer> <Combuster> agreed :( 19:30:52 <PublicServer> <Combuster> and some people found it interesting to tie the votes again 19:31:29 <Chris_Booth> again? 19:31:31 <Chris_Booth> grrr 19:31:47 <PublicServer> *** Peter has left the game (connection lost) 19:31:48 <[com]buster> IMO we should've ended the voting when there was that >5 lead 19:31:53 <Chris_Booth> why not just have a H2H again the 2/3 Best plans 19:31:58 <PublicServer> *** Peter joined the game 19:32:02 <[com]buster> CB: agreed 19:32:04 <[com]buster> I win 19:32:06 <[com]buster> yay 19:32:06 <mitooo> why not... 19:32:14 <[com]buster> just count the leading votes ;) 19:32:33 <PublicServer> <Peter> who is number 18? 19:32:37 <[com]buster> nobody... 19:32:41 <PublicServer> <Owen> It's an empty slot 19:32:50 <mitooo> anyway, 2 voted 1 for your plan 19:33:28 <PeterT> why the hell did someone skip over it? 19:33:36 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> there was someone who removed his vote 19:33:43 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> quite simple? 19:34:09 <OwenS> mitooo: Quite a few of the votes have been allocated in order to give maximum chance of the wanted plan winning. In other words, counting 1s is meaningless 19:35:27 <OwenS> Thats the flaw in this voting system: 5 goes to the preference, then 4321 get assigned in order to maximize that preference's chance rather than by the plan's merits 19:36:46 <mitooo> so you prefer the "normal" voting system if i recall exactly? 19:36:48 <PublicServer> <Owen> Combuster: Any reasson to go mono over mag? :p 19:36:48 <Chris_Booth> !password 19:36:48 <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: ushers 19:37:06 <[com]buster> Owen: because I can :) 19:37:08 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 19:37:11 <OwenS> mitooo: I prefer "First past the post" or "Cascading vote" 19:37:18 <mitooo> maglev too fast for TGV realism :p 19:37:33 <[com]buster> monorail is the only type not supported by GRFs 19:37:40 <PublicServer> <Owen> Also, the "signal trains" are disabled =( 19:37:53 <PublicServer> *** Peter has left the game (leaving) 19:38:12 <mitooo> signal trains? 19:38:13 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> well Combuster wins 19:38:31 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> as his plan had the most high numbers out of the 3 highest scoring plans 19:38:34 <PublicServer> <Combuster> did you mean eyecandy empty engines? 19:38:45 <PublicServer> <Owen> Combuster: No, the supersonic logic trains :p 19:39:00 <PublicServer> <Combuster> cycle wasters :p 19:42:03 <PublicServer> <Owen> Combuster: With TL15, how many engines? :p 19:42:35 <[com]buster> Three pairs? 19:42:35 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00005C8B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00005C8B.png 19:42:53 <PublicServer> <Owen> Seems reasonable, though always looks somewhat silly :p 19:43:30 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> you might want to change the acceleration pattern 19:43:35 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> to realistic 19:43:41 <[com]buster> !defaults 19:43:43 <[com]buster> er 19:43:46 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 19:43:49 <Combuster> !setdef 19:43:50 <PublicServer> *** Combuster has disabled wait_for_pbs_path, wait_twoway_signal, wait_oneway_signal, ai_in_multiplayer; enabled no_servicing_if_no_breakdowns, extra_dynamite, mod_road_rebuild, forbid_90_deg, rail_firstred_twoway_eol and set path_backoff_interval to 1, train_acceleration_model to 1 19:43:53 <PeterT> Combuster: !setdef 19:44:00 <Combuster> way ahead of you 19:44:02 <Combuster> :) 19:44:03 <PeterT> :-) 19:44:35 <PublicServer> * Owen likes scary {OMG IT'S GONNA CRASH} reversing loops :p 19:44:36 <PublicServer> *** mrcool has joined spectators 19:45:09 <PublicServer> *** mrcool has left the game (leaving) 19:45:21 <PublicServer> <Combuster> hmm, acceleration stinks :( 19:45:35 <PublicServer> <Owen> Monorail accel always does :P 19:45:40 <PublicServer> <Owen> Even Lev4s are faster 19:45:49 <PublicServer> <Combuster> you mean 'Lev1 19:46:07 <PublicServer> <Owen> No, Lev4s have pathetic acceleration for their top speed. And nobody uses anything but Lev4 :p 19:46:37 <PublicServer> <Owen> Consider that a Lev4 has 20khp over two engines at ~500km/h 19:46:55 <PublicServer> <Owen> Vs a Lev1 which has 10khp/engine at 400km/h 19:46:55 <mrcool> !password 19:46:55 <PublicServer> mrcool: haring 19:47:05 <PublicServer> *** mrcool joined the game 19:48:08 <PublicServer> <Owen> Hang on... does the maglev actually intersect itself? XD 19:48:23 <PublicServer> <Combuster> its longer than the other one 19:48:38 <PublicServer> <Combuster> I thought it had 4 wagons between the locs 19:49:04 <PublicServer> <Owen> Heh, it has 5 19:49:16 <PublicServer> <Combuster> correction: 3 19:49:51 <PublicServer> <Owen> Huh? The lev has 5 between locos, while it should have 4 19:50:08 <PublicServer> <Combuster> The mono has 3 between locos 19:50:16 <PublicServer> <Combuster> while that's not an even TL 19:50:27 <PublicServer> <Combuster> anyway 19:50:37 <PublicServer> <Owen> Monorail is 15 trains 7.5 tiles... 19:50:46 <PublicServer> <Combuster> lev3 = faster, same running cost 19:50:57 <PublicServer> <Owen> Whats not to like ? :P 19:51:08 <PublicServer> <Owen> Other than the inevitable hatred when it comes to upgrade to Lev4 :p 19:51:44 <PublicServer> <Combuster> depends, how much does the accel speed increase with Lev4? 19:52:12 <PublicServer> <Owen> Lev4 has 20khp but remember that it's dual headed 19:52:30 <PublicServer> <Combuster> I know 19:52:31 <PublicServer> <Owen> ...And we'll have it before this vote is over >_< 19:52:47 <PublicServer> <Combuster> THB 19:52:51 <PublicServer> <Combuster> *TBH 19:53:02 <PublicServer> *** Progman joined the game 19:53:06 <PublicServer> <Combuster> I dislike Maglev because you can't properly see the construction of crossings 19:53:37 <PublicServer> <Owen> It's difficult but not impossible 19:53:46 <PublicServer> <Combuster> it gets in the way 19:53:50 <gleeb> I can read original-gfx maglev easy 19:54:04 <PublicServer> <Combuster> just as you'll have a hard time reading out the reserved paths with maglev 19:54:05 <PublicServer> *** Progman has left the game (leaving) 19:54:12 <PublicServer> <Owen> I just hate monortail's patheticness 19:54:15 <Progman> still not decided? 19:54:37 <OwenS> no 19:55:16 <Combuster> unless you think its better to go back to original voting 19:57:37 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000529C: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000529C.png 19:57:55 <OwenS> Ammler, since you seem to be around, any comments on voting methadology? :P 20:01:01 <OwenS> <Evidently not around but not set away. useful.> 20:01:34 <Combuster> Other thing 20:01:48 *** devilsadvocate has quit IRC 20:01:59 <Combuster> Both Thraxian and Chris Booth wanted to resign to force the end of voting 20:02:23 <gleeb> Voting seems complex. 20:02:38 <PublicServer> <Owen> Whoeever decided to change the voting system has made it so 20:02:49 <KenjiE20> +1 Combuster 20:03:05 *** devilsadvocate has joined #openttdcoop 20:03:31 <KenjiE20> if it'll get things rolling again 20:03:45 <PublicServer> *** Zerpa has left the game (leaving) 20:03:56 * KenjiE20 wander of the the TV 20:03:58 <KenjiE20> off* 20:07:05 <PublicServer> *** Kenix has left the game (leaving) 20:07:28 *** PeterT_ has joined #openttdcoop 20:07:53 *** PeterT_ has quit IRC 20:08:42 <Combuster> Looks like we got 4½ members agreeing on a winner 20:09:17 <Combuster> er 20:09:31 <PeterT> ½? 20:09:37 <Combuster> Chris Booth 20:09:58 <Combuster> he behaves like one for half the time ;) 20:12:23 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (connection lost) 20:12:39 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00006E68: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00006E68.png 20:12:41 <Combuster> OwenS: if you think its enough, you can declare a winner 20:13:51 <V453000> whats the vote? 20:14:13 <PublicServer> <Combuster> 67/63/64/46/30 with the new system 20:14:18 <PublicServer> <Combuster> 6/4/8/0/0 with the old system 20:14:24 <V453000> right 20:14:36 <V453000> and the 4,5 ? 20:15:11 <Combuster> Thraxian, KenjiE20, OwenS, yours truly, and CB for half 20:16:02 <V453000> but for who? 20:16:29 <Combuster> my plan 20:16:32 <V453000> kk 20:16:36 <V453000> I agree 20:16:41 <PublicServer> *** planetm4ker joined the game 20:16:41 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> hi 20:16:47 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> so who needs a vote? ;-) 20:16:48 <PublicServer> <Combuster> hi pm 20:16:51 <PublicServer> <mrcool> hi 20:17:14 <PublicServer> <Owen> planetm4ker: Give combuster 5 and make the two vote totals agree :P 20:17:16 <PublicServer> <Combuster> the new voting system keeps getting tied due to social effects 20:17:25 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> hm.... so much for "clear" winner with this voting scheme 20:19:40 <PublicServer> <Owen> pm: Theres a space in slot 18 :P 20:19:41 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> so, I gave points in 2 decrements 20:19:50 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> oh, I missed that :-) Thanks 20:20:02 <PublicServer> <Owen> Also, you have to give out one of each decrement :p 20:20:13 <^Spike^> hmmm.. Combuster me is not a member? :) 20:20:25 * ^Spike^ starts to wonder why he voted again.. ;) 20:20:47 <Combuster> You didn't state your intent of calling a winner 20:20:53 <^Spike^> i wasn't asked.. 20:20:57 <^Spike^> was busy on PZ :) 20:21:45 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> 72 vs. 64 is clear ;-) 20:22:00 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> 13% difference 20:22:15 <PublicServer> <Mitooo> not if i change my vote :p 20:22:21 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> :-P 20:22:36 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> what does the * mean 20:22:42 <PublicServer> <Mitooo> lead vote 20:22:55 <PublicServer> <Owen> planetm4ker: That person's highest vote for a plan which has a possibility of winning :p 20:22:56 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> aye 20:23:50 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> Mitooo: where's your vote anyway? 20:23:58 <Combuster> pm: learn 1337speak 20:24:12 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> oh oh. I see 20:24:34 <Combuster> also, the *s mark the votes that would have been cast in the original voting system 20:25:04 <Combuster> (including the rule not to vote for yourself) 20:26:06 <PublicServer> <Owen> I vote that we never use this stupid voting system again :p 20:26:06 <planetmaker> gosh. It's getting complicated ;-) 20:26:17 * planetmaker agrees 20:26:28 <V453000> :) 20:26:51 *** einKarl has quit IRC 20:27:02 <planetmaker> an eternity is long. especially towards the end :-P 20:27:11 <V453000> :D 20:27:13 <planetmaker> let's see *how* long. 20:27:14 <V453000> nice 20:27:41 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000566B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000566B.png 20:28:04 *** PeterT_ has joined #openttdcoop 20:28:08 <mitooo> i agree with owen and pm 20:29:11 *** Kenix has quit IRC 20:29:12 *** Pirate_87 has joined #openttdcoop 20:29:22 *** Kenix has joined #openttdcoop 20:29:37 <PublicServer> <Owen> Now, we just need to agree to the result of this one >_< 20:32:38 <Pirate_87> !password 20:32:38 <PublicServer> Pirate_87: tanker 20:32:50 <PublicServer> *** Pirate87 joined the game 20:32:55 <PublicServer> <Owen> ZzZzZzZ 20:33:14 * Combuster plays sawmill 20:34:22 <Pirate_87> !help 20:34:22 <PublicServer> Pirate_87: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands 20:35:42 <PublicServer> *** Pirate87 has left the game (connection lost) 20:35:48 <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (leaving) 20:36:15 *** Pirate87 has quit IRC 20:37:49 <Pirate_87> @8ball will the voting end today ? 20:37:49 <Webster> Pirate_87: It shall be. 20:38:14 <^Spike^> @8ball are you an 8ball 20:38:14 <Webster> ^Spike^: In your dreams. 20:38:20 <^Spike^> there.. don't believe it 20:38:32 <Combuster> Good thing Pirate didn't specify what day 20:38:56 <Combuster> it might be the period of one day on mercury 20:39:13 <OwenS> Luna would work too 20:39:21 <Pirate_87> i think 'today' is specific enough :P 20:39:50 <OwenS> Pirate_87: There are 26 (IIRC) definitions of today on this planet :P 20:40:03 <Pirate_87> forgot to specify the time zone :( 20:41:45 <^Spike^> let's say australia.. 20:41:52 <^Spike^> so... we still got 20 hours left 20:42:16 *** PeterT_ has quit IRC 20:42:17 <OwenS> Would someone just call the end of the vote please?! 20:42:43 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00005650: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00005650.png 20:44:28 <Pirate_87> how can i change my nick ? 20:44:40 <OwenS> Pirate_87: Where? 20:44:50 <Pirate_87> here ? 20:44:57 <Pirate_87> brb 20:44:58 <OwenS> /nick newnick 20:47:23 <PeterT> /nick <NewNick> 20:57:19 <OwenS> >___< 20:57:29 *** Pirate_87 is now known as Pirate87 20:57:45 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00004849: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00004849.png 20:58:07 <OwenS> Haha it captured the notice :p 20:58:19 <PeterT> @seen SmatZ 20:58:19 <Webster> PeterT: SmatZ was last seen in #openttdcoop 1 day, 20 hours, 40 minutes, and 7 seconds ago: <SmatZ> V453000: thanks, rats on cocaine just killed my firefox 20:58:32 <V453000> :D 20:58:36 <Pirate87> a bit earlier today it captured the entire voting board 20:58:46 <V453000> nice quote 21:00:20 *** TinoM has quit IRC 21:01:19 <mitooo> when can we start building? 21:01:37 <Combuster> when the lunar day ends 21:01:48 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop 21:01:48 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 21:01:57 <Combuster> Hi ODM 21:02:08 <mitooo> hi odm :) 21:02:11 <Combuster> When I create a scenario for you, please do make a plan :) 21:02:35 <mitooo> which "you"? 21:02:36 <ODM> dont really have time this weekend, sorry 21:03:28 <mitooo> or at least you may vote :) 21:06:57 *** grim|away has joined #openttdcoop 21:06:57 *** grim4593 has quit IRC 21:08:34 <PeterT> @channelstats 21:08:34 <Webster> PeterT: On #openttdcoop there have been 391483 messages, containing 12219173 characters, 2112627 words, 34023 smileys, and 9707 frowns; 1242 of those messages were ACTIONs. There have been 24582 joins, 1160 parts, 23301 quits, 63 kicks, 12277 mode changes, and 542 topic changes. 21:15:55 *** Kenix has quit IRC 21:16:27 <V453000> ok back :) 21:20:06 *** Kolo has joined #openttdcoop 21:20:59 <PublicServer> *** Kolo joined the game 21:22:44 <mrcool> What time do you have there you are? 21:24:31 <V453000> [22:22] <mrcool> What time do you have there you are? 21:25:18 <mrcool> 22:22? 21:25:22 *** Intexon_ has joined #openttdcoop 21:26:46 <V453000> yes 21:26:59 <mrcool> what country are you people from? 21:27:16 <V453000> Czech republic ... you can check that on users at wiki ;) 21:27:30 <V453000> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Community:Members 21:27:48 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001046C: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001046C.png 21:28:34 <mrcool> okey 21:28:46 <mrcool> not so many from norway, I see :p 21:29:07 <mitooo> you are the only one? 21:29:28 *** ed__ has joined #openttdcoop 21:29:42 <mrcool> i'm not a registered member, but yeah.. 21:29:42 <mrcool> :p 21:30:09 <hylje> or an usual suspect 21:31:08 <V453000> :) 21:31:18 <mitooo> i'm also an only one :p 21:31:27 <mrcool> haha, sweet ;D 21:32:08 <mitooo> but i see there's so much dutch people :p 21:32:18 <mrcool> is long time to the building starts? why wait, when it looks like there are an winner? 21:32:42 <hylje> because it's almost midnight 21:32:57 <hylje> dutch social networks took over here, you do the same ;-) 21:33:35 <V453000> :) 21:33:56 <Combuster> there's still an hour and a half before midnight< 21:34:03 <Combuster> there's just a voting crisis :( 21:35:37 <ed__> !password 21:35:37 <PublicServer> ed__: salted 21:35:50 <PublicServer> *** ed__ joined the game 21:36:38 <mrcool> combusters plan have most votes, it's an hour and a half before midnight, so i vote for start building :p 21:39:31 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> I voted for that about 3 hours ago :) 21:40:09 <PublicServer> <Combuster> well then, lets remove pm's wrong vote and get this over with 21:40:21 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> of course, I also suggested running both my plan (cargo) and Combuster's plan (pax) at the same time, but that was declined also 21:40:33 <PublicServer> <Combuster> unless you still want your plan to participate 21:40:44 <PublicServer> <Combuster> in which case we still have a winner, but a different one 21:40:52 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> well, I still think my plan rocks, but I'd like to see something built...maybe today 21:41:25 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> and I'm willing to give up my plan if it means the game will actually happen 21:41:32 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> maybe I'll build my plan offline, or in a future PZ game :) 21:42:05 <PublicServer> <Combuster> the problem is planetmaker 's half-baked vote :( 21:42:28 <PublicServer> <mrcool> well, is it to much using combusters plan with pax, and combine with cargo transport also? 21:42:29 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> ok... how shall I improve? 21:42:43 <PublicServer> <Combuster> make sure you use 1..5 21:42:50 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000E060: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000E060.png 21:42:51 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> (including 2 and 4) 21:42:56 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> better? 21:43:03 <PublicServer> <Combuster> good enough 21:43:06 <PublicServer> <Combuster> plan part two 21:43:25 <Razaekel> combining thrax and combuster's might work, as long as the networks are kept seperate 21:43:27 *** Condac has joined #openttdcoop 21:43:35 <Razaekel> and the cargo gets priority over pax 21:43:45 <PublicServer> <Combuster> cargo doesn't need prio 21:43:47 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> we might consider rotating Combuster's plan 90 degrees then 21:43:54 <PublicServer> <Combuster> ...lol? 21:43:55 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> the spokes from the loop can go between the different regions 21:44:25 <V453000> Thraxian: I really like your plan too ... would be nice for a PZ if it wasnt used in this PS ... wanna do it too :) 21:44:35 <Razaekel> i meant in terms of bridgebuilding 21:44:46 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> that's fine by me - mine on PZ, Combuster's here 21:44:51 <Razaekel> in cases where pax and cargo lines cross, the pax should go on bridges 21:45:07 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> but we'll wait on doing mine on PZ until after this PSG, so there's no conflict of interest 21:45:17 <mrcool> that sounds okey. 21:45:24 <Combuster> Fine with me 21:45:39 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> are those in response to Raz's comments or mine? 21:45:42 <mrcool> can i remove my plan now? : ) 21:46:10 <Chris_Booth> Combuster & Thraxian: there is currently a game on PZ 21:46:21 <Chris_Booth> cant it wait until that game is finished? 21:46:29 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> only 41 industiries left in this game :) 21:46:30 <Combuster> <Thraxian> but we'll wait on doing mine on PZ until after this PSG 21:46:41 <Combuster> ;) 21:46:45 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> thanks Combuster 21:46:55 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> wasn't in IRC - and OpenTTD doesn't allow copy/paste from chat :) 21:47:04 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> I should get an IRC client for my home PC 21:47:24 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> someone make sure to save the current game state for loading on the PZ 21:47:35 <Progman> !save 21:47:35 <PublicServer> Saving game... 21:47:36 <PublicServer> *** Thraxian has joined company #1 21:47:48 <Chris_Booth> Combuster: that doesnt answer my quesetion, i asked if you could wait until PZ 12 is finished 21:48:05 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> and use a special name for that save, so it doesn't get overwritten 21:48:08 <mitooo> "PSG winner"; i love this expression :p 21:48:09 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> I have a local copy, just in case 21:48:22 <PublicServer> <Combuster> I'll make sure to do the same 21:48:27 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> if PZ12 is still going on when this PSG ends, we'll wait 21:48:48 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> after PZ12 and PSG 177 have BOTH ended, we'll load this game next 21:48:48 <PublicServer> *** planetm4ker has left the game (leaving) 21:49:02 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> if that happens to be PZ 13 or PZ27, it doesn't matter :) 21:49:18 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> so...Combuster officially wins the vote? 21:49:25 <PublicServer> <Mitooo> normally yes 21:49:36 <planetmaker> [22:46] <PublicServer> <Thraxian> wasn't in IRC - and OpenTTD doesn't allow copy/paste from chat :) <-- did you actually try? It *should* work AFAIK 21:49:44 *** Intexon_ has quit IRC 21:50:03 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> pm: how do you copy and paste text from a box that doesn't allow selecting the text? 21:50:31 <PublicServer> <Owen> lkj 21:50:34 <planetmaker> I thought you meant copy _into_ OpenTTD? 21:50:36 <PublicServer> <Owen> woops lol 21:50:57 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> no - I meant copying something I wrote a few minutes ago in chat and pasting it back into chat 21:51:02 <Combuster> @Stage building 21:51:02 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #177 (r19163) | STAGE: building | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart & !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | Welcome to the depths of insanity" 21:51:04 <planetmaker> he... you mean OpenTTD chat? Ah :) 21:51:12 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> Owen: time to change that password...lkj is no longer safe! 21:51:12 <planetmaker> That's difficult :-) 21:51:53 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> last time I tried using my scissors on the monitor, I had to buy a new one - but the glue messed up the new one, so I had to buy a 3rd 21:52:01 <PeterT> !password 21:52:01 <PublicServer> PeterT: gloats 21:52:03 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> teach me to cut and paste the screen:) 21:52:09 <PublicServer> *** Server joined the game 21:52:15 <PublicServer> <mrcool> haha 21:52:16 <PublicServer> *** Server has changed his/her name to Peter 21:52:19 <PublicServer> <Peter> oops :-) 21:52:20 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> say bye-bye to Thrax's plan.... 21:52:59 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> sign list is now half as long :) 21:53:00 <PublicServer> <Owen> Combuster: How wide should the gap between the lines be? 21:53:11 <PublicServer> <Peter> we need filter sign list patch 21:53:12 <PublicServer> <Combuster> see plan? :) 21:53:16 <PublicServer> <Combuster> L_R 21:53:18 <PublicServer> <Owen> Just one? 21:53:19 <PublicServer> <Peter> 221 signs 21:53:31 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> inner loop north of neningville? 21:53:32 <PublicServer> *** ostannard joined the game 21:53:43 <PublicServer> <Owen> For the outer loop, should we roughly follow the towns? 21:53:45 *** Intexon_ has joined #openttdcoop 21:53:45 <PublicServer> <Peter> also, what are those maglevs and monos? 21:53:54 <V453000> who won? 21:53:58 <PublicServer> <Peter> can I delete CB's signs? 21:54:02 <PublicServer> <Peter> Combuster 21:54:04 <PublicServer> <Combuster> V453000: Both 21:54:05 <PublicServer> <Peter> won 21:54:05 <V453000> kk 21:54:08 <V453000> nice 21:54:16 <PublicServer> <Combuster> see prozone topic 21:54:21 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> see my "inner loop here?" signs and let me know.... 21:54:33 <PublicServer> <Combuster> looks fine 21:55:03 *** Intexon_ has quit IRC 21:55:20 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> I thought outer loop would be on map edge 21:55:28 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> or very close to it 21:55:33 <PublicServer> <Combuster> what thrax said 21:55:59 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> are those spokes on the plan exact, or for illustrative purposes? 21:56:00 <PublicServer> <Owen> Perhaps slightly further in for junction space 21:56:17 <PublicServer> <Combuster> keep like 20 tiles from edge 21:56:31 <PublicServer> * Owen starts 21:56:33 <PublicServer> <Combuster> everything is illustrative 21:56:40 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> kk 21:56:51 <PublicServer> <Combuster> spokes and hubs are added on demand 21:57:03 <PublicServer> <Combuster> hubs only T's 21:57:33 <PeterT> @wiki TGV 21:57:36 <Webster> Search results for "TGV" - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Special:Search?go=Go&search=TGV 21:57:42 <PeterT> @wiki Gametype:TGV 21:57:45 <Webster> Search results for "Gametype:TGV" - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Special:Search?go=Go&search=Gametype%3ATGV 21:57:52 <Combuster> wrong 21:57:52 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000A99B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000A99B.png 21:58:07 <PeterT> @wiki Gametype:TGV-ng 21:58:09 <Webster> Search results for "Gametype:TGV-ng" - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Special:Search?go=Go&search=Gametype%3ATGV-ng 21:58:11 <Combuster> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Gametype:TGV_NG 21:58:28 <PeterT> thanks 22:00:20 *** Condac has quit IRC 22:00:42 <Pirate87> !password 22:00:43 <PublicServer> Pirate87: candid 22:01:06 <PublicServer> *** Pirate87 joined the game 22:01:28 *** Polygon has quit IRC 22:01:48 <PublicServer> <Peter> what is an example of a "t-hub"? 22:01:55 <hylje> 3 way 22:02:09 <PublicServer> <Peter> Ok 22:03:19 <Ammler> oh no, TGV game won? 22:03:32 <PublicServer> <Owen> Yes 22:03:37 <PublicServer> <Combuster> any problems with that? 22:03:41 <Ammler> :-P 22:05:15 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 22:05:54 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> i should avoid diagonal tracks 22:05:57 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> right ? 22:06:30 <PublicServer> <Owen> Pirate87: They're less of an issue than they were 22:06:49 <hylje> you can put bridges over diagonal 22:06:55 <hylje> just no diagonal bridges yet 22:09:45 <PublicServer> <Owen> TL15 means HUUUGE stations :p 22:12:39 <PublicServer> <Combuster> We don't need CL15 though 22:12:54 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00027F51: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00027F51.png 22:13:11 <PublicServer> *** Progman has left the game (connection lost) 22:14:03 <PublicServer> *** Progman joined the game 22:14:13 <PublicServer> <Combuster> CL=6 22:15:12 <^Spike^> who won? 22:15:17 <^Spike^> after 50 hours of discussion 22:15:18 <PublicServer> <Combuster> Both 22:15:24 <^Spike^> which means 22:15:34 <PublicServer> <Combuster> See prozone topic :) 22:16:04 <PublicServer> *** Progman has left the game (leaving) 22:16:12 <^Spike^> which means.. which plan we play there next game? 22:16:30 <PublicServer> <Combuster> Thraxian's 22:16:43 <^Spike^> ah 22:17:03 <^Spike^> so long TL prozone game.. and PS game.. 22:17:04 <^Spike^> cool :) 22:17:11 <^Spike^> atleast cargo next on pz :) 22:17:30 <PublicServer> <Peter> are we doing CL in this game? 22:17:33 <PublicServer> <Owen> 6 22:17:55 <PeterT> Ok 22:18:26 <zerpa> !password 22:18:26 <PublicServer> zerpa: stride 22:18:36 <PublicServer> *** Zerpa joined the game 22:18:56 <^Spike^> let's see... 22:19:39 <PublicServer> *** Spike joined the game 22:19:53 <PeterT> @coin 22:19:53 <Webster> PeterT: tails 22:20:11 <PublicServer> <Owen> I suppose it classifies as an MSH :p 22:20:38 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> what's the prio lenght ? 22:20:51 <PublicServer> <Owen> I've gone for 4 blocks 22:21:27 <PublicServer> <Spike> combuster no mail cars? 22:21:40 <PublicServer> <Mitooo> as it's TGV no 22:21:59 <PublicServer> <Spike> i'm asking cause wiki said engine 3 pax 2 mail 3 pax engine 22:22:00 <PublicServer> <mrcool> wow 22:22:09 <PublicServer> <mrcool> my best friend was on that plane :s 22:22:10 <PublicServer> *** Intexon has joined company #1 22:22:32 <PublicServer> <Combuster> this trainset doesn't have TGVs either ;) 22:22:49 <PublicServer> * Spike was just asking :) 22:25:53 <PublicServer> * Owen builds an inner-outer link 22:27:22 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> terminus statinos ? 22:27:23 <PublicServer> *** ostannard has left the game (leaving) 22:27:29 <PublicServer> <Owen> Use whatever you want 22:27:42 <Phazorx> !password 22:27:43 <PublicServer> Phazorx: stride 22:27:48 <PublicServer> *** Phazorx joined the game 22:27:56 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000364F7: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000364F7.png 22:28:07 <PublicServer> <Phazorx> oh boy i need mrhunt's mono to play this 22:28:40 <PublicServer> <Owen> Hmm... Should the inner-outer links be L_R or LR? 22:29:02 *** ostannard has quit IRC 22:29:03 <PublicServer> <Phazorx> LR kinda makes it more usual 22:29:11 <PublicServer> <Owen> but the MLs are L_R :P 22:29:20 <PublicServer> <Combuster> LR is fine 22:29:37 <PublicServer> <Phazorx> a pax game? 22:29:40 <PublicServer> <Phazorx> hmm 22:29:48 <PublicServer> <Phazorx> are we only doing few station 22:29:51 <PublicServer> <Phazorx> s? 22:30:16 <PublicServer> <Spike> Phazorx: you have 2 choices of pax games.. :) 22:30:19 <PublicServer> <Spike> pz or ps :) 22:30:35 <PublicServer> <Combuster> One TGV station per town 22:30:38 <PublicServer> <Phazorx> i'm not a big fan of pimp da city games 22:30:52 <PublicServer> <Combuster> key difference between TGV and ICE-SBahn 22:31:12 <PublicServer> <Phazorx> err... so no shuttles? 22:31:27 <PublicServer> <Owen> Hmm... I should probably double my BBH's bridges :p 22:33:43 <PublicServer> <Spike> i always wonder why ppl need to TF so much on a flat map... 22:34:44 *** Condac has joined #openttdcoop 22:38:07 <PublicServer> <Peter> that looks ugly. 22:38:15 <PublicServer> <Owen> What looks ugly? 22:38:23 <PublicServer> <Peter> one of the bbhs 22:38:30 <PublicServer> <Owen> Which? They're labeled 22:39:20 <V453000> !password 22:39:20 <PublicServer> V453000: pureed 22:39:36 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 22:39:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> evening 22:39:42 <PublicServer> <Owen> Eve 22:39:48 <PublicServer> <Peter> Don't delete it Mitoo 22:39:56 <PublicServer> * Owen builds Central Water distribution center for central regions 22:40:01 <PublicServer> <Mitooo> i don't touch it :) 22:41:42 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> hmm, u're right 22:41:57 <PublicServer> <Combuster> there's a better looking alternative 22:42:04 <PublicServer> <Combuster> but it requires moving the ML 22:42:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> OwenS: u got a bad CL at MSH02 ... I will fix it right? 22:42:58 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00014FC9: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00014FC9.png 22:44:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> how long prios? 22:44:31 <PublicServer> <Combuster> ~20 22:44:36 <PublicServer> <Phazorx> heh anyone tesed? 22:44:43 <PeterT> ~20? jesus.. 22:44:48 <PublicServer> <Phazorx> prios are rarely less than 2TLs 22:44:51 <PublicServer> <Combuster> probably more 22:45:04 <PublicServer> <Phazorx> unaccelereated usualy between 2.5 TL and 3TL 22:45:22 <PublicServer> <Combuster> depends 22:45:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> depends on train accelerations 22:45:33 <PublicServer> <Combuster> last game we had TL11 prios for TL7 trains 22:46:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> why Lev4? 22:46:28 <PublicServer> <Owen> Because I fancied it :p 22:46:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> :O 22:46:36 <PublicServer> <Peter> i didn't build it, but why not? 22:46:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> suckage acceleration 22:46:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> Lev3 is godly 22:46:59 <PublicServer> <Owen> It's only TL5, on a private network :p 22:47:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> kk 22:47:09 <PublicServer> <Owen> A network not intended to make money but to make cities :p 22:47:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> "only" TL5 :D 22:47:25 <PublicServer> <Owen> Combuster: Can we do some PAX between MSH01 and 02? 22:47:34 <PublicServer> <Combuster> Life support is mostly chaos style 22:47:40 <PublicServer> <Combuster> Owen: sure 22:49:04 <PublicServer> <Owen> These trains are INSANE 22:49:12 <PublicServer> <Peter> which? 22:49:15 <PublicServer> <Phazorx> as well as the plan 22:49:25 <PublicServer> <Combuster> aren't we all? :) 22:50:03 <PublicServer> <Owen> Trains released 22:52:06 <PublicServer> <Mitooo> done a station too :) 22:52:22 <PublicServer> <Zerpa> did you decide a prio length? 22:52:27 <PublicServer> <Phazorx> measure it 22:52:28 <PublicServer> <Mitooo> no 22:52:53 <PublicServer> <Owen> 1230 pax/train loool 22:53:05 <PublicServer> <Owen> Thats half the town's inhabitants :p 22:53:45 <PublicServer> * Owen does a little water prospecting 22:54:00 <PublicServer> <Combuster> nice 22:54:13 <PublicServer> <Peter> a "little"? 22:54:25 <PublicServer> <Owen> I pressed the button ~5 times, we have the cash 22:54:49 <ed__> bbh03 doesn't have anything connected on the outer loop 22:56:26 <PublicServer> *** Progman joined the game 22:56:41 *** Kenix has joined #openttdcoop 22:57:15 <PublicServer> *** Intexon has joined spectators 22:57:27 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> @clcalc maglev 482 22:57:34 <PublicServer> <Peter> in IRC... 22:57:41 <PeterT> @clcalc maglev 482 22:57:41 <Webster> PeterT: Required CL for maglev at 482km/h is 7 (13 half tiles) or TL 22:57:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> 482? 22:57:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh 22:58:00 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003B8AC: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0003B8AC.png 22:58:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> thats Lev3 :) 22:58:09 <PeterT> @clcalc maglev 337 22:58:09 <Webster> PeterT: Required CL for maglev at 337km/h is 4 (6 half tiles) or TL 22:58:56 <PublicServer> <Owen> Combuster, NDF station is too short 22:59:19 <PublicServer> <Peter> what is the prio? 22:59:32 <PublicServer> <Owen> TL 20 22:59:39 <PublicServer> <Peter> wow 23:00:03 <PublicServer> <Phazorx> i doubt that's enough 23:00:25 <PublicServer> *** Sietse has joined company #1 23:00:34 <Kenix> !password 23:00:35 <PublicServer> Kenix: enemas 23:00:37 <PublicServer> *** Progman has left the game (leaving) 23:01:14 <PublicServer> *** Kenix joined the game 23:01:26 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 23:04:05 <PublicServer> <Phazorx> CL7 or 6 ? 23:04:08 <PublicServer> <Combuster> CL6 23:04:10 <PublicServer> <Peter> 6 23:04:12 <PublicServer> <Phazorx> k 23:04:12 <PublicServer> <Combuster> is sufficient 23:04:23 <PublicServer> <Phazorx> 11 half tiles or 12? 23:04:45 <PublicServer> <Owen> I've not noticed any slowdowns on 11 23:04:50 <PublicServer> <Combuster> 11 halves are ok 23:04:53 <PublicServer> <Phazorx> good 23:04:54 <PublicServer> <Phazorx> thanks 23:05:03 <PublicServer> <Combuster> that's what the speed test were based on 23:05:33 <PublicServer> <Combuster> SED TGV is open 23:05:44 <PublicServer> <Combuster> any unconnected station? 23:05:46 <PublicServer> <Mitooo> FON also is open 23:05:49 <PublicServer> <Zerpa> FWL 23:06:00 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> SON oficialy open 23:06:02 <PublicServer> <Zerpa> FWL is ready for pax 23:06:09 <PublicServer> <Combuster> will take FWL 23:08:06 <PublicServer> <Combuster> who built the wrong trains? 23:08:17 *** Phoenix_the_II has joined #openttdcoop 23:08:17 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Phoenix_the_II 23:08:25 <PublicServer> <Peter> lev2? 23:08:31 <PublicServer> <Peter> check the logs 23:08:38 <PeterT> SmatZ: You there? 23:08:42 <PeterT> @seen SmatZ 23:08:42 <Webster> PeterT: SmatZ was last seen in #openttdcoop 1 day, 22 hours, 50 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: <SmatZ> V453000: thanks, rats on cocaine just killed my firefox 23:08:42 <PublicServer> <Zerpa> which ones? 23:08:48 <PublicServer> <Combuster> there are ML trains with three pairs of locs (wrong) and 4 pairs (right) 23:09:07 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> i cloned from the trainyard 23:09:27 <PublicServer> <Peter> can someone check msh03 and tell me where else I need to add prios? 23:09:52 <PublicServer> <Mitooo> can someone also check FON station? 23:10:03 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> hey, MSH03 is mine ! 23:10:33 <PublicServer> <Peter> Hmm? 23:10:48 <PublicServer> <Peter> well, intexon likes the credit 23:11:00 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> we have 2 MSH03 23:11:15 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> check east 23:11:16 <PublicServer> <Zerpa> fixed 23:12:02 <PublicServer> *** ed__ has joined company #1 23:12:22 <PublicServer> <Peter> no, it's not fixed 23:12:44 <PublicServer> <Peter> Now, fixed 23:12:45 <PublicServer> <Sietse> trains need to be able to leave both ways I guess? 23:13:01 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003B69D: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0003B69D.png 23:13:26 *** Fuco has quit IRC 23:13:33 <PublicServer> <Peter> Ok, so where else does MSH 03 need prios? 23:14:33 <PublicServer> <Peter> thanks 23:15:39 *** ODM has quit IRC 23:15:47 <PublicServer> *** Intexon has left the game (leaving) 23:16:50 <PublicServer> * Peter waits for a train to pass and test his prios 23:17:36 <PublicServer> <Owen> The ones with 3 pairs are my fault, sorry. I didn't know someone had built a trainyard at the time (If they had) 23:18:01 <PublicServer> <Combuster> They've been replaced in the meantime 23:18:07 <PublicServer> <Peter> good 23:19:10 <PublicServer> <ed__> should FON station be split? currently sharing lev & mono 23:19:28 <PublicServer> <Combuster> not required 23:20:01 <PublicServer> <Peter> fuck, if i knew the tl was 15 and not 12, the prios would've been alot easier 23:20:55 <mitooo> going to bed :) 23:20:58 <mitooo> good night :) 23:21:01 *** Intexon has quit IRC 23:21:56 *** mitooo has quit IRC 23:22:00 <PublicServer> *** Mitooo has left the game (leaving) 23:22:45 <PublicServer> *** Kolo has left the game (leaving) 23:22:55 *** Kolo has quit IRC 23:23:43 <PublicServer> <Peter> wow, soo many people 23:23:57 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> they 23:24:01 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> they 23:24:02 <PeterT> !playercount 23:24:02 <PublicServer> PeterT: Number of players: 14 23:24:15 <PeterT> we just need to beat 25 :-) 23:24:15 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> they've been waiting 2 days for this :) 23:24:49 <PublicServer> <Peter> btw, where can i get the .void station grf? 23:24:53 <PublicServer> <Peter> where can I find it, i mean 23:25:09 <PublicServer> <Owen> Hey, um, wrt Fon, who please sign your hub 23:26:01 <PublicServer> <Zerpa> full load? 23:26:05 <PublicServer> <Owen> No 23:28:03 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00035226: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00035226.png 23:30:22 *** Polygon has joined #openttdcoop 23:30:27 <PublicServer> *** Pirate87 has left the game (connection lost) 23:30:43 <Pirate87> !password 23:30:43 <PublicServer> Pirate87: madams 23:30:51 <PublicServer> *** Pirate87 joined the game 23:32:46 <PublicServer> <Phazorx> why dont we have trams? 23:32:51 <PublicServer> <Peter> No grf for it 23:32:59 <PublicServer> <Peter> as to why that is, I don't know 23:33:00 <PublicServer> <Phazorx> i figured that much 23:33:02 <PublicServer> <Phazorx> but why 23:33:07 <PublicServer> <Peter> someone forget to add it 23:33:13 <PublicServer> <Phazorx> for pax game it is a must 23:33:20 <PublicServer> <Phazorx> as well as LV4 23:33:27 <PublicServer> <Combuster> no, and no 23:33:34 <PublicServer> <Combuster> this game is original vehicles :) 23:33:34 <PublicServer> <Phazorx> yes and yes ? 23:33:40 <PublicServer> <Phazorx> i can see that 23:33:45 <PublicServer> <Phazorx> but it doesnt even have gen trams 23:33:58 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> there are no generic trams 23:33:59 *** Progman has quit IRC 23:34:09 <PublicServer> <Phazorx> and pax games are more interesting with trams and with decent RVs 23:34:19 <PublicServer> <Phazorx> Pirate87: there were 2 years ago 23:34:27 <PublicServer> <Phazorx> i dobt they followed path of dinosaurs 23:34:41 <PeterT> <Combuster> this game is original vehicles :) <-- So why do we have Avi8tors aircraft? 23:34:50 <PeterT> :-{ 23:34:54 <PeterT> :-P* 23:35:01 <PublicServer> <Owen> "Generic Tram Set" Yep, definitely exist :p 23:36:00 <PublicServer> <ed__> anyone need a train to stop in a station? i need one for FON 23:36:12 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> GSL maybe ? 23:36:18 <PublicServer> <ed__> ok, GSL it is 23:36:28 <PublicServer> <Owen> Apparently CHT has highest waiting but it has wave issues 23:37:18 <PublicServer> <Owen> "100% transported" (Water pump) impressive! 23:41:51 *** Techinica has quit IRC 23:42:29 <PublicServer> <Owen> =( Water trains are more profitable than express :P 23:43:05 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000127B3: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000127B3.png 23:43:33 <PublicServer> <Phazorx> SAN is ready of anyone eneds trains 23:44:06 <PublicServer> <Owen> Well, it could never hurt CHT, and a bit of diversity would help the wave problem 23:44:23 <PublicServer> <Combuster> NDF also has some spare 23:44:59 *** Kolo has joined #openttdcoop 23:45:17 <PublicServer> <Combuster> meeeeh, bad score 23:45:30 <PublicServer> <Owen> We only started building 10 bloody years ago :p 23:45:32 <PublicServer> *** Kolo joined the game 23:45:43 <PublicServer> <Owen> Stupid controversial voting process 23:47:00 *** Polygon has quit IRC 23:49:49 <PublicServer> <Phazorx> so where a i addint trains from SAN to ? 23:50:04 <PublicServer> <Combuster> NDF? 23:50:17 <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (leaving) 23:50:22 <PublicServer> <Phazorx> NDF is like 50 tiles from it :) 23:50:34 <PublicServer> <Owen> Phazorx: CHT? 23:50:51 <OwenS> Any plans to do a game to celebrate 1.0's final release? :p 23:51:15 <PeterT> @seen Chris_Booth 23:51:15 <Webster> PeterT: Chris_Booth was last seen in #openttdcoop 2 hours, 3 minutes, and 26 seconds ago: <Chris_Booth> Combuster: that doesnt answer my quesetion, i asked if you could wait until PZ 12 is finished 23:53:18 <PublicServer> <ed__> what does CL mean? 23:53:23 <Combuster> @CL 23:53:23 <Webster> cl: Curve Length, mostly used to describe how big a curve must be to let pass trains with a certain TL at full speed, see also: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Max_Curve_Speed 23:53:23 <PublicServer> *** Kenix has left the game (leaving) 23:53:34 <PublicServer> <ed__> thx 23:53:52 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 23:53:57 *** Kenix has quit IRC 23:54:10 <KenjiE20> OwenS: 'stables' don't mean much here :P 23:54:49 <OwenS> KenjiE20: I'm well aware of that, but it would make sens to celebrate finally reaching the holy grail of version numbers :p 23:55:20 <KenjiE20> wake me when it's 4.0 :P 23:55:31 <KenjiE20> nah, it'd probably get a blog post from one of us 23:55:51 <KenjiE20> unless 'someone' has something up their sleeve 23:55:51 <PublicServer> <Combuster> I want a multithreaded pathfinder :( 23:55:52 <OwenS> Meh. How about celebrating r20000 then? :P 23:56:08 <KenjiE20> you got that answer already :P 23:56:24 <OwenS> Which are both coincidentally approaching 23:56:50 <OwenS> It would be fun if r20000 was the update to /branches/1.0 to remove the "RC1" from the title :p 23:57:06 <KenjiE20> *cough* 23:58:07 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00035D24: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00035D24.png 23:59:09 <Pirate87> @tunnels 15 23:59:09 <Webster> Pirate87: For Trainlength of 15: < 21 needs 2, 22 - 38 needs 3, 39 - 55 needs 4. 23:59:26 <OwenS> Combuster: As someone who's working on an app with ~4+2n threads (n = core count), multithreading is not fun :p