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00:02:22 *** ^Spike^ has quit IRC 00:02:24 <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (leaving) 00:11:33 *** Phazorx has left #openttdcoop 00:14:24 *** pugi has quit IRC 00:15:44 *** mixrin has quit IRC 00:25:55 *** Polygon has quit IRC 00:27:36 *** Kenix has quit IRC 00:30:30 *** Zulan has joined #openttdcoop 00:35:25 *** Progman has quit IRC 00:36:14 *** Nebri has joined #openttdcoop 00:36:31 <Nebri> Hello all 00:36:54 <Nebri> !download 00:36:54 <PublicServer> Nebri: !download autostart|autottd|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x 00:37:04 <Nebri> !download lin64 00:37:04 <PublicServer> Nebri: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19253/openttd-trunk-r19253-linux-generic-amd64.tar.bz2 00:37:56 <Nebri> hmm that link appears to be dead. 00:38:47 <Nebri> oops nvm 00:45:58 *** roboboy has joined #openttdcoop 00:48:30 *** Polygon has joined #openttdcoop 00:51:54 *** Nebri has left #openttdcoop 00:53:18 <Thorinbur> !players 00:53:19 <PublicServer> Thorinbur: There are currently no clients connected to the server 00:53:42 <Thorinbur> Thats what i thought. Ok going sleep see you. 00:55:13 *** Thorinbur has quit IRC 01:06:55 <Ammler> @man dos 01:06:57 <Webster> Search results - OpenTTD - http://wiki.openttd.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=dos 01:07:15 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 01:08:22 *** Chris_Booth is now known as Guest542 01:08:25 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop 01:10:23 <PublicServer> *** Thraxian joined the game 01:12:12 <PublicServer> *** Thraxian has left the game (connection lost) 01:14:54 *** Guest542 has quit IRC 01:21:34 *** Zorni has joined #openttdcoop 01:29:13 *** Zorn has quit IRC 02:10:41 *** VictorOfSweden has quit IRC 02:16:19 *** Chillosophy^ has quit IRC 02:24:06 *** OwenS has quit IRC 03:19:59 *** Polygon has quit IRC 03:36:15 *** Fuco has quit IRC 03:45:14 *** Giddorah has joined #openttdcoop 03:45:22 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 03:47:55 *** Hirundo has quit IRC 03:47:55 *** Guest537 has quit IRC 03:48:19 *** Ammler has quit IRC 03:48:30 *** Giddorah_ has quit IRC 03:51:40 *** Ammler has joined #openttdcoop 03:51:40 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Ammler 03:52:01 *** Hirundo has joined #openttdcoop 03:53:02 *** V453000 has joined #openttdcoop 03:53:02 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o V453000 04:05:55 *** gr00vy has quit IRC 04:08:20 *** gr00vy has joined #openttdcoop 04:10:19 *** Nebri has joined #openttdcoop 04:10:38 <Nebri> !download win64 04:10:38 <PublicServer> Nebri: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19253/openttd-trunk-r19253-windows-win64.zip 04:15:26 <Nebri> !password 04:15:26 <PublicServer> Nebri: bluffs 04:15:40 <PublicServer> *** Nebri joined the game 04:19:05 <PublicServer> *** Nebri has left the game (leaving) 04:25:30 *** roboboy has quit IRC 04:46:39 *** Razaekel has quit IRC 04:50:29 *** Razaekel has joined #openttdcoop 05:04:27 *** roboboy has joined #openttdcoop 05:07:48 *** Nebri has left #openttdcoop 05:32:14 *** roboboy has quit IRC 05:58:07 *** roboboy has joined #openttdcoop 06:37:17 *** roboboy has quit IRC 06:49:44 *** roboboy has joined #openttdcoop 07:10:44 *** mixrin has joined #openttdcoop 07:35:24 *** ^Spike^ has joined #openttdcoop 07:35:24 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ^Spike^ 07:36:02 *** roboboy has quit IRC 07:38:33 *** roboboy has joined #openttdcoop 07:42:44 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 07:46:41 *** Giddorah_ has joined #openttdcoop 07:50:05 *** Giddorah has quit IRC 07:52:07 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop 07:52:07 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 08:12:19 *** einKarl has joined #openttdcoop 08:41:35 *** Phazorx has joined #openttdcoop 08:41:35 *** Webster sets mode: +o Phazorx 08:43:34 *** Intexon has joined #openttdcoop 08:59:05 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop 08:59:15 *** roboboy has quit IRC 09:00:27 *** Seberoth2 has joined #openttdcoop 09:01:23 *** roboboy has joined #openttdcoop 09:08:00 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 09:22:12 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 09:27:17 <Giddorah_> !players 09:27:19 <PublicServer> Giddorah_: There are currently no clients connected to the server 09:38:22 *** pugi has quit IRC 09:49:00 *** roboboy has quit IRC 09:54:37 *** Pirate87 has joined #openttdcoop 09:54:58 <Pirate87> !screen 09:54:58 <PublicServer> *** Pirate87 liked to make screenshot of last action, but nobody was working since. (http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png) 10:03:17 *** Benom has joined #openttdcoop 10:11:47 *** virtual has joined #openttdcoop 10:22:04 <Pirate87> !playercount 10:22:04 <PublicServer> Pirate87: Number of players: 0 10:39:44 *** Benom has quit IRC 10:40:59 *** Benom has joined #openttdcoop 10:44:14 <Pirate87> !password 10:44:15 <PublicServer> Pirate87: libels 10:44:55 <PublicServer> *** Pirate87 joined the game 10:47:57 <PublicServer> *** Pirate87 has left the game (leaving) 10:52:52 <virtual> !download win32 10:52:52 <PublicServer> virtual: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19253/openttd-trunk-r19253-windows-win32.zip 10:54:55 *** tuinn has joined #openttdcoop 10:55:51 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001BF69: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001BF69.png 11:00:50 *** roboboy has joined #openttdcoop 11:05:32 <virtual> !password 11:05:32 <PublicServer> virtual: swills 11:05:55 <PublicServer> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 11:06:17 <PublicServer> *** Player joined the game 11:06:17 <Webster> Player, please change your in game nick 11:06:46 <Giddorah_> !players 11:06:48 <PublicServer> Giddorah_: Client 574 is Player, a spectator 11:11:36 *** Polygon has joined #openttdcoop 11:17:48 <^Spike^> !players 11:17:50 <PublicServer> ^Spike^: Client 574 is Player, a spectator 11:17:58 <^Spike^> virtual could you change your nick? 11:18:01 <^Spike^> in-game that is 11:20:04 <PublicServer> *** Player has changed his/her name to virtual 11:23:40 *** Phazorx has left #openttdcoop 11:23:42 <Pirate87> !password 11:23:42 <PublicServer> Pirate87: berets 11:24:09 <PublicServer> *** Pirate87 joined the game 11:31:44 <Pirate87> if someone joins please highlight me 11:38:35 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 11:38:35 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 11:42:58 *** OwenS has joined #openttdcoop 11:42:58 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v OwenS 11:48:09 *** Giddorah has joined #openttdcoop 11:51:32 *** Giddorah_ has quit IRC 11:55:12 <Giddorah> !players 11:55:13 <PublicServer> Giddorah: Client 574 is virtual, a spectator 11:55:13 <PublicServer> Giddorah: Client 576 (Orange) is Pirate87, in company 1 (New Hendtown Transport) 11:55:47 <Giddorah> !password 11:55:47 <PublicServer> Giddorah: signer 11:55:52 <PublicServer> *** Giddorah has left the game (connection lost) 11:56:00 *** Ryt0n has joined #openttdcoop 11:56:00 <PublicServer> *** Giddorah has left the game (connection lost) 11:56:08 <Ryt0n> !password 11:56:08 <PublicServer> Ryt0n: gravel 11:56:12 <Giddorah> Bah 11:56:23 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 11:56:24 <PublicServer> *** Giddorah joined the game 11:56:27 <Giddorah> Pirate87 11:56:48 *** Nickman_87 has quit IRC 11:56:54 <PublicServer> *** Ryt0n joined the game 11:56:59 <PublicServer> *** Ryt0n has changed his/her name to Ryton 12:04:27 *** roboboy has quit IRC 12:04:50 *** thgergo has joined #openttdcoop 12:07:30 <PublicServer> <Ryton> i'm finally starting to grasp the logic behind the BBH's & some of the MSH's ! 12:07:49 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> There's logic? 12:08:07 <PublicServer> *** virtual has left the game (leaving) 12:08:36 <PublicServer> <Ryton> it might be that I start to understand the insanity of it 12:08:51 <PublicServer> <Ryton> but its becoming clearer anyway :-) in the beginning it did look like spaghetti 12:09:24 <PublicServer> <Ryton> now I see itsmore like lasagna: well build, layer after layer 12:15:24 <Pirate87> sorry, i was watching a movie fullscreen 12:15:37 <Pirate87> and my player blocks everthing else 12:15:48 <OwenS> Mmmmhhh, Lasagna 12:16:03 <Pirate87> i just got hungry 12:16:26 <PublicServer> <Ryton> btw, MSH10, shouldnt that be BBH10? 12:16:30 *** tuinn has quit IRC 12:16:37 <PublicServer> <Ryton> probably I am still missing some important point ;-) 12:17:43 <PublicServer> <Ryton> or its also possible to make side hubs from the NW to SE backbone, not just from the NE to SW backbones? 12:18:22 <PublicServer> <Ryton> (if this all makes some sense to anyone :p) 12:18:58 *** Nickman87 has joined #openttdcoop 12:19:26 <PublicServer> *** tneo joined the game 12:24:21 <PublicServer> *** tneo has left the game (leaving) 12:25:53 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000A0E1: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000A0E1.png 12:26:58 *** Zulan has joined #openttdcoop 12:27:41 <Pirate87> @wiki MSH 12:27:44 <Webster> MSH - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Special:Search?go=Go&search=MSH 12:27:55 <Pirate87> Ryt0n, check this out 12:29:35 <Ryt0n> will do, ty 12:30:01 <PublicServer> <Ryton> I did read it a while ago, but theory is far from reality sometimes :p 12:30:08 <PublicServer> <Ryton> so it could be usefull to reread it 12:31:00 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> it's just that BBH connect one ML to another 12:31:13 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> and MSH connect a main station to the ML 12:31:29 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> so why would u like to call MSH10 a BBH > 12:31:30 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> ? 12:32:11 <PublicServer> <Ryton> because... i was wrong :pp 12:32:14 <PublicServer> *** Pirate87 has left the game (connection lost) 12:32:15 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 12:32:35 <PublicServer> <Ryton> I was mixing up MSH and SLH 12:32:43 <Pirate87> !password 12:32:44 <PublicServer> Pirate87: aisles 12:32:57 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 12:32:58 <PublicServer> *** Pirate87 joined the game 12:33:40 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> somethings wrong with this version 12:33:50 <Ryt0n> in other words: it looked like a sideline buildup to me 12:34:16 <Ryt0n> you get disconnected? 12:34:53 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> once every hour 12:35:01 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> aproximatle 12:39:22 <V453000> ok my IRC is operational once again :D 12:39:41 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Wasn't OTTD the problematic thing? 12:40:20 <V453000> yesterday I werent able to connect to the game ... but in the evening I couldnt join the IRC bouncer 12:40:39 <V453000> because my connection somehow failed but I somehow stayed logged in :D 12:40:55 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00030C6B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00030C6B.png 12:41:24 <V453000> !players 12:41:26 <PublicServer> V453000: Client 589 (Orange) is Pirate87, in company 1 (New Hendtown Transport) 12:41:26 <PublicServer> V453000: Client 582 (Orange) is Giddorah, in company 1 (New Hendtown Transport) 12:41:26 <PublicServer> V453000: Client 584 is Ryton, a spectator 12:41:28 <V453000> !password 12:41:28 <PublicServer> V453000: cupped 12:41:45 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 12:42:02 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> good to see you V 12:42:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 12:42:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> any new? 12:42:32 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> new what ? 12:42:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> anything :) 12:42:51 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> don't know 12:42:54 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> just got here 12:43:07 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> and i wasn't here yesterday 12:45:47 <V453000> :) 12:47:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> wha 12:47:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> brb 12:47:44 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has joined spectators 12:47:51 <Ryt0n> aha, found something to back up my logic (in mistaking MSH and SLH): http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2009/06/14/re-introducing-main-station-hubs/ 12:53:42 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 12:55:57 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000330A6: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000330A6.png 13:03:14 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Where are you building Pirate? 13:03:23 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> near MSH02 13:03:28 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Aight 13:03:35 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> trying to build a drop 13:03:59 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Hmmm... Crowded place :P 13:04:11 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> yep 13:06:20 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Haha 13:10:22 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 13:10:37 *** roboboy has joined #openttdcoop 13:11:00 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00032BAC: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00032BAC.png 13:11:27 *** TinoM has joined #openttdcoop 13:13:58 *** Fuco has joined #openttdcoop 13:14:02 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Fuco 13:17:46 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Hehe 13:17:49 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> When did you wake up? 13:18:09 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop 13:26:02 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00031E9B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00031E9B.png 13:27:03 <Ryt0n> out of here. back later. CU all 13:27:15 <PublicServer> *** Ryton has changed his/her name to {Ryton\afk} 13:27:39 <Pirate87> @away 13:27:39 <Webster> No away nicks/messages please (http://sackheads.org/~bnaylor/spew/away_msgs.html) 13:28:15 <Ryt0n> point taken :-) 13:28:20 <PublicServer> *** {Ryton\afk} has changed his/her name to Ryton 13:32:42 *** roboboy has quit IRC 13:37:51 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> Giddorah: building anything ? 13:37:59 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Nope 13:38:11 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Just browsing around :) 13:38:14 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> just finished that stations 13:38:21 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yeah :) I saw 13:38:26 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Good use of limited space 13:38:42 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Would rock of those industries died right now :P 13:38:43 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> thx 13:39:04 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> but i think i could have been done better 13:39:12 <PublicServer> *** Intexon joined the game 13:39:18 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Perhaps... With less industries around 13:39:43 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Shouldn't doublebridge the exits though? 13:39:59 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> maybe 13:40:10 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I think there's gonna be whining about that :P 13:40:15 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> i'll try 13:40:18 <Ammler> afk is done with switch to spec 13:41:04 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00032DA1: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00032DA1.png 13:41:36 <Ammler> anyway, the @away was made for irc, we don't really care that much about ingame nicks... 13:42:04 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> oups, didn't notice that :P 13:42:13 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> :) 13:42:26 <Ammler> the reason for irc is that you might be joined to more than one channel... 13:43:23 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Hmmm 13:43:45 <planetmaker> who isn't? ;-) 13:47:31 <V453000> !password 13:47:31 <PublicServer> V453000: flasks 13:47:52 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 13:47:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> back :) 13:49:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> why does MSH08 need a rebuild? 13:49:08 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 13:49:09 <Ammler> V453000: you should alert if irc.openttdcoop.org is down :-P 13:49:24 <Giddorah> Sigh... Lost my password for the main-forum :( 13:49:25 <V453000> okay :) I tried to 13:49:32 <V453000> but I wasnt sure if it isnt my issue 13:49:40 <V453000> !password 13:49:40 <PublicServer> V453000: flasks 13:50:09 <V453000> Ammler: my internet connection is able to do really weird things 13:50:32 <KenjiE20> V453000: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ 13:50:32 <V453000> for example sometimes it is unable to connect to ICQ but connects to meebo-ICQ with no problems 13:50:33 <Webster> Title: Down for everyone or just me? (at downforeveryoneorjustme.com) 13:50:34 <KenjiE20> :P 13:50:37 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 13:50:45 <Ammler> well, I will add monitor script to it, maybe run it as service... 13:50:49 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 13:51:11 <Ammler> but currently, if the server reboots, it needs manual start... 13:51:39 <V453000> right :) 13:51:44 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 13:51:56 <KenjiE20> does it not have a check script / pid file? 13:52:55 <Ammler> KenjiE20: no idea... 13:53:02 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 13:53:02 <KenjiE20> lol 13:53:04 <Ammler> it has a pid file 13:53:26 <KenjiE20> then you could probably cron a simple bash check 13:53:39 <Ammler> yes, that might be the monitor script 13:53:56 <Ammler> but maybe you can do it simpler by just start it every 5 mins. 13:54:26 <Ammler> like znc 13:54:34 <V453000> !password 13:54:34 <PublicServer> V453000: flasks 13:55:06 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 13:55:14 <V453000> :{ 13:55:40 <V453000> this starts to be serious 13:55:55 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 13:56:06 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000334A4: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000334A4.png 13:56:31 <Ammler> !rcon frame_freq 13:56:31 <PublicServer> Ammler: ERROR: command not found 13:58:10 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 13:58:48 <V453000> !password 13:58:48 <PublicServer> V453000: sensed 13:58:50 <Chris_Booth> !password 13:58:50 <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: sensed 13:58:58 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 13:59:06 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 13:59:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> hey CB 13:59:15 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> hello 14:02:36 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 14:03:14 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 14:09:17 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 14:09:23 <V453000> !password 14:09:23 <PublicServer> V453000: sensed 14:09:40 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 14:10:28 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 14:10:32 <V453000> OMG 14:10:35 <V453000> !password 14:10:35 <PublicServer> V453000: sensed 14:10:50 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 14:10:55 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> having fun V453000 14:10:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> ya rly 14:11:08 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003DB52: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0003DB52.png 14:12:26 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ok my MSH is finshed 14:12:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 14:12:56 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 14:13:07 <V453000> !password 14:13:07 <PublicServer> V453000: nutted 14:13:20 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 14:13:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> :( 14:17:00 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Wondering about the station-area around MSH05 14:17:06 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Why does it have 2 entrances and one exit? 14:17:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> isnt it WIP? 14:17:26 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> No WIP-flag 14:17:34 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> But the station isn't placed so... :P 14:17:45 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> There's no WIP-flag on the MSH05 though 14:18:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> I think it is quite obvious that it isnt finished 14:23:15 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 14:23:19 <V453000> !password 14:23:19 <PublicServer> V453000: nutted 14:23:38 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 14:24:51 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 14:26:10 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003D741: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0003D741.png 14:26:23 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Uhm... You're the one behind the Brewery-stations V? :) 14:26:43 <V453000> !password 14:26:43 <PublicServer> V453000: donkey 14:26:59 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 14:27:36 *** lomba has joined #openttdcoop 14:28:30 <PublicServer> *** lomba joined the game 14:28:42 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 14:28:51 <V453000> !password 14:28:51 <PublicServer> V453000: donkey 14:29:07 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 14:29:17 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (connection lost) 14:30:29 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 14:30:36 <V453000> ok 14:30:39 <V453000> I cannot 14:30:49 <V453000> feel free to finish MSH 03 pls 14:31:14 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 14:34:18 <Ammler> !rcon net_frame_freq 14:34:18 <PublicServer> Ammler: Current value for 'frame_freq' is: '0' (min: 0, max: 100) 14:34:21 <Ammler> !rcon net_frame_freq 4 14:34:48 <PublicServer> *** lomba has left the game (leaving) 14:37:53 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> V453000: building anything ? 14:37:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> no 14:38:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> finished beer drop 14:38:06 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I'm just trying something at MSH03 14:38:18 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> But... Dunno how good it'll be 14:38:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> where does that go? 14:38:59 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Down the exit-track just above 14:39:02 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> That's not good? 14:39:30 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yes 14:39:43 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (connection lost) 14:39:46 <Ammler> of course, the czech is working on beer drop ;-) 14:39:48 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I'm very new to all this complex network-building 14:39:53 *** Thorinbur has joined #openttdcoop 14:40:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> Ammler: :P already dedicated it to smatz 14:40:06 <Ammler> I guess, SmatZ did the pickup? 14:40:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> noo :D 14:40:13 <Ammler> :-) 14:40:22 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Well... I was thinking of connection the 1 track to the other track 14:40:22 <Thorinbur> Hi. According to the webcam something interesting is happening at the server 14:40:30 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> And 2 track to that track 14:40:33 <Thorinbur> !screenshot 14:40:38 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 14:40:43 <Thorinbur> !screen 14:40:45 <PublicServer> *** Thorinbur made screenshot at 00022A60: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00022A60.png 14:40:46 <V453000> omfg 14:40:53 <V453000> !password 14:40:53 <PublicServer> V453000: donkey 14:41:02 <Ammler> don't drink and play :-P 14:41:08 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 14:41:08 <V453000> :| 14:41:10 <Thorinbur> Brewery pickup! 14:41:12 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00023C67: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00023C67.png 14:41:12 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Was thinking of connection 1 to A and 2 to B 14:41:27 <Thorinbur> Damn i can't connect now... 14:41:31 <Thorinbur> or... 14:41:36 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> orrr :P 14:41:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> hmm 14:41:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> well there isnt any space for balancing 14:41:54 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I know :( 14:41:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> lets just say it will be fine 14:42:08 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> We can see how it works under load 14:42:52 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Hmmm 14:43:25 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Ah 14:43:27 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Smart :) 14:43:48 *** VictorOfSweden has joined #openttdcoop 14:43:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> still it is pretty hard to do anything there :D 14:44:14 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Hmmm 14:44:31 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Gotto redraw 1 a bit 14:45:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> ok 14:45:31 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> That should work... Shouldn't it? 14:45:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> now we need to go to the east from there 14:45:53 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Down by the Arable Farm? 14:46:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> down to the sand pit 14:46:48 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> MSH10? 14:46:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> ??? 14:46:58 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Haha 14:46:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> there is no 10 14:47:10 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oh? 14:47:18 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I'm... Kind of looking at it right now 14:47:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> )WTF 14:47:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> what is that doing there? 14:47:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> Thorinbur? 14:47:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> what is that meant to be? 14:48:07 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Read notes on Fleningville 14:48:17 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> we should ask the author propably :) 14:48:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> unacceptable 14:49:39 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 14:49:39 <Thorinbur> :] 14:49:45 <V453000> !password 14:49:45 <PublicServer> V453000: clinch 14:49:58 <Thorinbur> I decided to move B here 14:50:05 <V453000> you decided? 14:50:06 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 14:50:07 <Thorinbur> a lot more space 14:50:24 <Thorinbur> well i ask some guys and if it is a problem you can demolish it 14:50:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes but it has completely wrong position in the network 14:50:42 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I was here when it was discussed and I agreed 14:50:48 <Thorinbur> And Victor 14:50:50 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> With Thor that is 14:51:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> sorry, but no. 14:51:13 <Thorinbur> ok 14:51:16 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> But we also said that it could easily be demolished :) 14:51:22 <Thorinbur> it may stay as SLH 14:51:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> ok 14:51:53 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Awh... Had already placed the dynamite 14:52:39 <Thorinbur> on the other hand 14:52:48 <Thorinbur> ML 1 pickups Goods 14:53:01 <Thorinbur> I mean inds thre produce it 14:53:05 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 14:53:05 <Thorinbur> so drop so close? 14:53:09 <PublicServer> *** VictorOfSweden joined the game 14:53:13 <V453000> yes 14:53:17 <V453000> that is the point 14:53:23 <V453000> and it should not be changed 14:53:24 <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> hi all 14:53:26 <V453000> !password 14:53:26 <PublicServer> V453000: clinch 14:53:36 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Still can't get in Thor? 14:53:37 <V453000> hi 14:53:41 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 14:54:45 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 14:55:01 <PublicServer> *** VictorOfSweden has joined company #1 14:55:05 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 14:55:11 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> How can your connection be this bad V? 14:55:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> you dont know my provider 14:55:27 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I'm whining when I get disconnected every 4 hours... But you... Got 30 seconds :S 14:55:28 <KenjiE20> easy, most countries are still backwards 14:55:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> :D 14:55:37 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Where are you from? 14:55:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> hey Kenji that was mean :D 14:55:49 <KenjiE20> hey, BT are backwards too 14:55:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> Czech Rep. 14:55:59 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oh, aight 14:56:14 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003B0D6: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0003B0D6.png 14:56:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> I just live in a fuckup location 14:56:35 *** lomba has quit IRC 14:56:48 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Should be illegal to sell such crappy services... No matter in which country you live 14:57:04 <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> hey V., what do you way about MSH08? 14:57:13 <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> can it stay left hand drive? 14:57:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> the company has in this area has a monopol 14:57:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> I see no reason to rebuild it 14:57:33 <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> the i'll remove the sign 14:57:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> additionally the LHD is better then 14:57:39 <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> *then 14:57:42 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Ah... Monopol-situations suck no matter what 14:57:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> you placed it that it should need full rebuild? 14:58:17 <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> after someone else said it, yes 14:58:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> so you did not think it but you did :D lol 14:59:32 <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> pretty much, yes :/ 14:59:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> should I comment that ? :) 14:59:53 <Thorinbur> actually i said that after he said that he want to convert it to right hand driving 15:00:03 <Thorinbur> and i said that to do that it would need full rebuild 15:00:13 <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> just want to say that the station wasn't built yet by then 15:00:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> lol 15:00:15 <Thorinbur> but i dont think it needfs to be converted 15:00:24 <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> at brunnford 15:00:29 <Thorinbur> and i DONT think it needs full rebuild 15:00:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> k ... lets forget it and just say it is ok 15:00:59 <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> agreed 15:02:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> what 15:03:04 <Thorinbur> !password 15:03:04 <PublicServer> Thorinbur: placid 15:03:22 <PublicServer> *** Player joined the game 15:03:22 <Webster> Player, please change your in game nick 15:03:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> what was that sign? 15:03:34 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> nvm 15:03:38 <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> that sign? 15:03:47 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> There was a sign saying "Sign" :) 15:03:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> whatever 15:04:02 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> wanted to ask whats being built here 15:04:12 <PublicServer> <Player> .. 15:04:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> town drop I guss 15:04:13 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> General Store... Or whatever it's called :) 15:04:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> y 15:04:21 <PublicServer> <Player> I know it doesnt to be doubled 15:04:27 <PublicServer> <Player> Player? 15:04:28 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Please, change nick 15:04:59 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 15:05:03 <PublicServer> *** Player has changed his/her name to Thorinbur 15:05:04 <V453000> !password 15:05:04 <PublicServer> V453000: placid 15:05:08 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Hey man :D 15:05:16 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Sorry not my account 15:05:19 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 15:05:23 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> So i lost settings 15:06:31 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> wow! 15:06:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> quite useless advice :) 15:06:48 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> i guess :P 15:07:16 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 15:07:21 <V453000> !password 15:07:21 <PublicServer> V453000: placid 15:07:23 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> interesting station 15:07:45 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 15:07:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> quite ordinary 15:08:14 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> not gate... 15:08:24 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> transfer in food pickup 15:08:34 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> yeah typica 15:08:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> hmmm 15:09:05 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> dont get it what is what 15:09:07 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Ohg 15:09:08 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ok 15:09:19 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> transfer is at drop 15:09:31 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and than its dividedd by that two trains 15:09:35 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> get it now 15:09:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> WTF IS THIS? 15:09:53 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> last thing why not gate 15:09:54 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Ahemm 15:10:11 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> It's me just waking up... 15:10:50 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and dont you like our double tuneled terminus station? 15:10:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> 1 thing: better not ever help me unless I ask for it 15:11:04 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Gotcha captain 15:11:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> it is quite ok but there is completely no reason for 2 tunnels :) 15:11:16 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000397E1: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000397E1.png 15:11:47 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> I know, but i wanted it to have them, and there was plenty of space 15:11:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> lol. 15:12:12 <PublicServer> <V453000> you wanted to have them even though they are totally unnecessary? :D 15:12:27 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> We liked it, so we built it :) 15:12:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> well I can not understand that but whatever :) it will work 15:17:42 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> we are closer to putting some Trains into system 15:18:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> all MSHs and stations done first 15:18:27 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> we're about halfway there :) 15:18:31 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i know but we are almost done 15:18:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> ye 15:18:41 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> that's far from almost :P 15:18:58 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> We're closer we've been before 15:19:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> not that far 15:19:04 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> *You're 15:22:02 *** Doomah has joined #openttdcoop 15:22:15 <Doomah> hallokiedokie! =D 15:22:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> wtf. 15:22:46 <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> there's a greeting i've never heard before 15:23:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> Doomah: drunk/high? 15:24:56 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> how about: Kaltxì as greeting? 15:25:42 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> :P 15:25:50 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> City council not cooperating? 15:25:54 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Xd 15:26:18 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00039CC5: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00039CC5.png 15:26:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> now there isnt that too low space, is it? 15:27:01 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> yeah nice solution. 15:27:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> next time try to solve, not to replan it 15:28:05 <Doomah> i'm not drunken, not high 15:28:07 <Doomah> just happy 15:28:14 <Doomah> the sun is shining! 15:28:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> ok :) thats the same 15:28:37 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Aren't those bridges below desynched? 15:28:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> cant see any 15:28:55 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> well... I took into consideration, that My MSH10 could be demolished or converrtd to SLH 15:28:58 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Aight, my bad then :) 15:29:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> Thorinbur: that is kinda bad consideration :) 15:29:42 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Why? You were not around so i could ask you 15:30:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> well if you build something and know that it is bad ... then it is a but weird :p 15:33:33 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i dont get why there is that timer 15:33:51 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> near food pickup in Brevery 15:34:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> not to release trains from oveflow that often? 15:34:09 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> I suppose that when stations are full train makes a loop 15:34:39 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and why there is road to that station? 15:34:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> ROAD? 15:34:55 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> from the loop 15:34:58 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> track 15:35:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> I dont get you 15:35:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> you mean the PF trap? 15:35:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 15:35:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> that is PF trap 15:35:49 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> PF? 15:35:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> I used this station in the last PSG, in the PSG before it, and another 3 times 15:35:55 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Pathfinder? 15:35:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 15:36:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> it might not be needed here but it is an insurance 15:36:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> that it will work 15:37:05 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> still don't get it... 15:37:08 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Gonna be interesting to see it workk 15:37:09 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> work 15:37:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> as I said ... I am using it often 15:37:32 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> why it is there 15:37:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> mh? 15:37:54 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> that staion... 15:37:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> why not 15:38:16 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Maybe it's tricking the trains in the loop to stay in the loop until they can reach the other station? 15:38:25 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Or rather the pathfinder 15:38:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> if all platforms are full, they get into the depot 15:38:39 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ok get it now... 15:38:57 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> pathfinder finds another platform 15:39:04 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> 90degree turns turned off? 15:39:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> of course 15:39:19 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> And the timer prevents them from exiting the depot 15:39:24 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Until the timer allows them 15:39:28 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> I know what timer dous 15:39:30 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Clever :) 15:39:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> one of my own designs :) 15:40:12 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> As I said... I'm not used to these more advanced things yet... I hardly managed to make a good and small SLH... :P 15:40:34 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i know now 15:40:49 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> trains cant get past that rectangle 15:41:03 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> i know 15:41:21 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003D352: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0003D352.png 15:41:25 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> it triks pathfinder so trains takes loop 15:41:37 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and dont wait in front of station 15:41:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> no they cant 15:41:50 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> That was my question :) 15:41:51 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Thanks 15:41:52 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> woul 15:42:07 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> wouldn't they take the loop without it ? 15:42:14 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i think it is not necesery 15:42:20 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> propably they would 15:42:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> probably is the key workd 15:42:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> word 15:42:39 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Wouldn't they wait at the entrance? 15:42:45 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Maybe not 15:43:07 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Hmm 15:43:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> lol 15:43:20 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Good thing you tested :P 15:43:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> WTF 15:43:30 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol 15:43:34 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Maybe make a sharper turn? 15:43:40 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> LOL 15:43:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> this always worked 15:44:00 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> this is exactly the thing i was worried about :) 15:44:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> bullshit 15:44:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> it worked many times before 15:45:17 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> shouldnt signals be reversed? 15:45:20 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Won't it just go into the station now? 15:45:26 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> i admit i saw this overflow stations work, but i've never seen a PF trap like this 15:45:57 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Maybe stop the timer while testing? :) 15:46:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> lol 15:46:17 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> fail 15:46:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> something is wrong 15:46:32 <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> obviously :P 15:46:49 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> reverse signals there 15:46:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> bullshit 15:47:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> it has to work 15:47:38 <PublicServer> *** Pirate87 has left the game (connection lost) 15:48:04 <PublicServer> *** Giddorah has left the game (connection lost) 15:48:06 <Pirate87> !password 15:48:06 <PublicServer> Pirate87: motels 15:48:20 <PublicServer> *** Pirate87 joined the game 15:49:36 *** Giddorah_ has joined #openttdcoop 15:49:45 <Giddorah_> !password 15:49:46 <PublicServer> Giddorah_: motels 15:49:52 <PublicServer> *** Giddorah joined the game 15:49:58 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Did I miss the fix? 15:50:06 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oh... "Good" 15:50:07 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> not yet 15:50:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> something is wrong with the config 15:51:11 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> i'll be going guys 15:51:13 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Why would it prefer that track? It's not even a station there 15:51:19 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> See you later Pirate 15:51:20 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> cya later or tomorrow 15:51:36 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> good luck with that station 15:51:41 <PublicServer> *** Pirate87 has left the game (leaving) 15:51:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> ok I got no idea 15:51:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> the config is weird though 15:52:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> besides that trains turn back from signals after a while 15:52:25 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> this is normal 15:52:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> no this isnt 15:52:39 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> well this is 15:52:41 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> They usually do that on regular servers, don't they? 15:52:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> what is regular 15:52:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> are we regular? 15:52:53 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i always had that localy 15:53:02 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> at all build 15:53:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> unacceptable for openttdcoop 15:53:14 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Regular = Just starting a game on a fresh installation 15:53:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> we always have it off 15:53:23 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> well i'd like to know that how to prevent that 15:53:24 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Can't you turn it off? 15:53:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> I can 15:54:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> it is one of the config values wait for signal 15:54:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> where should be value ... 255 if I remember well 15:55:30 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Hmmm... It did something else this time 15:55:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> good job 15:55:55 *** Giddorah has quit IRC 15:55:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> idiots :) 15:56:06 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Wait 15:56:17 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Isn't there supposed to be PBS-signals between the entrances? 15:56:20 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> that was not me 15:56:23 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003DB54: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0003DB54.png 15:56:27 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Me neither... I wouldn't dare 15:56:33 <V453000> I am callinig the trains idiots, not you lol :D 15:56:39 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> :P 15:56:40 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oh :D 15:56:54 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> last time i touched skip signal i crashed trains 15:57:07 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> later the same game i did exactly the same... 15:57:22 <PublicServer> *** VictorOfSweden has joined spectators 15:57:24 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Shouldn't those be PBS? 15:57:24 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> now i don't touch that option nowhere else than local 15:57:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> no they shouldnt 15:57:36 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Aight 15:57:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> that would be MUCH worse :) 15:57:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> it slows 15:58:14 <V453000> !rcon set wait_oneway_signal = 255 15:58:14 <PublicServer> V453000: - Change setting for all clients. Usage: 'setting <name> [<value>]' 15:58:14 <PublicServer> V453000: - Omitting <value> will print out the current value of the setting. 15:58:22 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> PBS-signals wasn't around when I used to play, so I'm not really familiar to them :P 15:58:36 <V453000> !rcon set wait_twoway_signal = 255 15:58:37 <PublicServer> V453000: - Change setting for all clients. Usage: 'setting <name> [<value>]' 15:58:37 <PublicServer> V453000: - Omitting <value> will print out the current value of the setting. 15:58:47 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> What about making the entrance to the pf-trap a 90 degree turn? 15:58:53 <Thorinbur> no equal mark 15:58:54 <PeterT> V453000: !rcon set "wait_twoway_signal 255" 15:59:04 <V453000> oh 15:59:11 <V453000> !rcon set "wait_twoway_signal 255" 15:59:11 <PublicServer> V453000: 'wait_twoway_signal 255' is an unknown setting. 15:59:16 <V453000> unknown 15:59:32 <V453000> oh I see 15:59:37 <Thorinbur> V: !rcon set wait_twoway_signal 255 15:59:41 <V453000> !rcon set wait_oneway_signal 255 15:59:44 <V453000> yes yes 15:59:45 <Thorinbur> :] 15:59:51 <V453000> I just copied it from config with the = 16:00:05 <V453000> !rcon set wait_twoway_signal 255 16:00:19 <V453000> !rcon set wait_for_pbs_path 255 16:00:34 <V453000> !rcon set reserve_paths false 16:00:36 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> What about the 90 degree turn idea? :P 16:00:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> completely wrong :) 16:00:52 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Aight :) 16:01:12 <PublicServer> <V453000> this has to work 16:01:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> it always did 16:01:35 <Ammler> what about !setdef? 16:01:49 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> There we go 16:01:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> good idea 16:01:50 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> :) 16:02:10 <V453000> just !setdef? 16:02:16 <V453000> is the command? 16:02:21 <V453000> anyways it works now :) 16:02:28 <Ammler> run it 16:02:33 <V453000> !setdef 16:02:33 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has disabled wait_for_pbs_path, wait_twoway_signal, wait_oneway_signal, ai_in_multiplayer; enabled no_servicing_if_no_breakdowns, extra_dynamite, mod_road_rebuild, forbid_90_deg, rail_firstred_twoway_eol and set path_backoff_interval to 1, train_acceleration_model to 1 16:03:01 <V453000> yes I know that already :) just did it manually ... thx anyways :) something could have been not-yet-set 16:03:02 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Disabled wait_twoway_signal ? 16:03:19 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> It's not supposed to wait at all? :P 16:03:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> ok guys test is over, can I depot the trains? 16:03:34 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> By all means 16:03:34 <Ammler> you didn't set path_backoff_interval 16:03:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> right 16:03:53 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Off to the stores... See you all later 16:04:01 <Thorinbur> extra_dynamite ?? 16:04:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> cya 16:05:20 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Connection seems better now btw V :) 16:05:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah 16:05:45 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> ISP got tired of pushing the red Disconnect OTTD-button 16:06:31 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> what did you changed (other than config?) 16:06:40 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> nothing? Config repaired this? 16:06:43 *** Sasakura has joined #openttdcoop 16:07:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> I told you this works 16:08:08 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> welll left hand drive on purpose if well... 16:08:15 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> that was mistake :P 16:08:20 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> not really on purpose 16:08:23 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> :] 16:08:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> who cares about that 16:08:37 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Victor:P 16:08:46 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> started rebuild yestrerday 16:09:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> lol then 16:09:05 <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> i'm ok with it 16:09:09 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> :] 16:09:33 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> yeah right. Thats why i had to rebuild part of it :P 16:10:19 <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> well, now i am 16:11:25 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002277F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002277F.png 16:16:41 <Chris_Booth> !password 16:16:41 <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: delves 16:16:50 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 16:16:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi CB 16:17:00 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> hi V and everyone 16:19:40 *** Mucht has joined #openttdcoop 16:19:40 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Mucht 16:21:22 *** Fuco is now known as `Fuco` 16:21:24 *** Doomah has quit IRC 16:21:38 *** `Fuco` is now known as Fuco 16:22:55 *** Mucht has quit IRC 16:22:59 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Bcak 16:23:03 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Back 16:23:07 <PeterT> @away 16:23:07 <Webster> No away nicks/messages please (http://sackheads.org/~bnaylor/spew/away_msgs.html) 16:23:34 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Hmm... Yes? 16:26:27 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001A476: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001A476.png 16:26:35 *** Polygon has quit IRC 16:26:52 *** Fuco is now known as `Fuco` 16:27:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> CB: why almost no grfs for stations? :( 16:27:23 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> there are enough? 16:27:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> there is not industrial renewal nor freight stations 16:27:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> the most important industrial 16:28:03 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> oops 16:28:30 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i am going to leave with embarasment 16:28:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 16:30:18 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ok so this desync is ok? 16:30:29 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> or i am missing something? 16:30:30 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> in a pickup station yes 16:30:38 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ok 16:31:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> well in some drops too - when there more than 1 types of cargo dropped 16:32:07 *** Mucht has joined #openttdcoop 16:32:07 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Mucht 16:32:33 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> not everything needs to be synced 16:32:42 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> only realy ML bridges 16:32:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 16:32:49 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and BBH and MSH bridges 16:33:03 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i never sync my SLHs 16:33:14 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and only very busy drops the only drop 1 cargo 16:34:39 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> What are you doing at Great Fleningville Heights station? 16:34:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> just a trainyard 16:35:15 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> For showing the different trains? 16:36:53 <`Fuco`> !dl win64 16:36:53 <PublicServer> `Fuco`: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19253/openttd-trunk-r19253-windows-win64.zip 16:37:30 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i am not a fan of making big stations on hills 16:37:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> who is :) 16:37:47 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> Mark was 16:38:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> didnt know that :) 16:38:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> well ... in hills ... this might be a bit extreme 16:41:29 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003D7E1: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0003D7E1.png 16:47:27 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> only pickup? And drop where? 16:47:50 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> to be built its WIP 16:48:04 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but all workers are on strike 16:48:40 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> my workers always go on strike 16:48:46 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> half way into the project 16:51:03 *** Radicalimero has joined #openttdcoop 16:51:37 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Strike in progres? 16:51:38 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> :P 16:53:01 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yeah strike in progress 16:53:06 <Radicalimero> !password 16:53:06 <PublicServer> Radicalimero: barley 16:53:11 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> we are currently in talks with unions 16:53:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> CB lazy? :D 16:53:18 <PublicServer> *** Radicalimero joined the game 16:53:18 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but it isnt looking good 16:53:26 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 16:53:31 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> V453000: what are you talking about? 16:53:35 <V453000> :) 16:53:37 <V453000> !passworx 16:53:40 <V453000> !password 16:53:40 <PublicServer> V453000: barley 16:53:55 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> this is the second strike in as many major projects for me 16:53:59 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> my PZ strike 16:54:05 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> now my strike on here 16:54:14 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 16:54:15 <V453000> lol 16:54:15 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> looks like i needs a new labour force 16:54:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> u need beer 16:54:45 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no at the moment 16:54:50 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i am on a detox 16:54:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> o_O 16:56:31 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003CFE1: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0003CFE1.png 16:57:00 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i am rebuilding the PZ cities with Total Towns 16:57:05 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> to stop the lag 16:57:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh 16:57:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> wow 16:57:30 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Total towns? 16:57:42 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> a town set 16:57:57 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 17:02:19 <PublicServer> *** VictorOfSweden has left the game (leaving) 17:03:41 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> What's everyone up to? 17:03:52 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> You building anything Thor? 17:04:04 *** Ben_Totterdell has joined #openttdcoop 17:04:14 <Ben_Totterdell> !password 17:04:14 <PublicServer> Ben_Totterdell: nooned 17:04:22 <PublicServer> *** Ben Totterdell joined the game 17:04:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> heyy Ben 17:05:33 <PublicServer> <Ben Totterdell> hi 17:05:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> your stations require some love :p 17:06:09 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 17:06:10 <PublicServer> <Ben Totterdell> i removed her 17:06:16 <V453000> !password 17:06:16 <PublicServer> V453000: nooned 17:06:21 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> I don't 17:06:23 <PeterT> we should update, that way we can play with realistic accel 17:06:35 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Update? 17:06:42 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> it's off? 17:06:44 <V453000> Peter: ? 17:07:03 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 17:07:10 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> It's on 17:07:23 <V453000> omg 17:07:25 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> V's connection messing up again? 17:07:27 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 17:07:53 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Is there anywhere where you can see server info? 17:07:55 <PublicServer> <Ben Totterdell> anything much need doing? 17:08:10 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> MSH05 17:09:07 <PublicServer> <Ben Totterdell> it only needs one more merger 17:09:15 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> And the station :P 17:09:16 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 17:09:30 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> V: Aren't there any internet cafe's around or something? 17:09:37 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 17:09:44 <V453000> !password 17:09:44 <PublicServer> V453000: nooned 17:10:04 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 17:10:08 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> V: Is the stations around MSH03 ready? 17:10:12 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> *done 17:10:20 <KenjiE20> Giddorah_: http://www.openttdcoop.org/servers/ps 17:10:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> these two should be 17:10:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> why 17:10:35 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Just wondering about those signs you put there about finishing them if you couldn't 17:10:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> well there is also the other side 17:11:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> where are supposed to be another two 17:11:05 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> What stations gonna be there? :) 17:11:12 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 17:11:21 <V453000> read it up 17:11:30 <V453000> at the ! industry areas 17:11:35 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000072A9: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000072A9.png 17:11:40 <V453000> I will come back later 17:11:55 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Glas works Plastic plannt 17:12:34 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ok acordint to Industry list: 17:12:43 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Cement, Machine, Glass and Plastics? 17:13:23 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Glass and Plastics left then? Or am I reading the list wrong? 17:13:59 <planetmaker> ".../old.icaps/pfc052006/auswertung/flug1_13/23.05.2006_parabola13_over 17:13:59 <planetmaker> view_frame00267_T05922001.bmp: file name too long to be stored in a GNU 17:13:59 <planetmaker> multivolume header, truncated 17:13:59 <planetmaker> " <--- grr... I hate to see such messages from my backup script... 17:14:22 <V453000> whats that? 17:15:02 <planetmaker> a tar message 17:15:09 <V453000> hmmm 17:15:50 <PublicServer> *** Ben Totterdell has left the game (leaving) 17:17:40 *** devilsadvocate has joined #openttdcoop 17:17:50 *** ccfreak2k has quit IRC 17:18:33 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> V. Your stations at MSH07 are done right (near lake rider 17:19:02 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> if so i will add info at industry area that area 7 is half done. 17:20:35 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 17:20:37 <planetmaker> @calc 2*54 17:20:37 <Webster> planetmaker: 108 17:20:40 <planetmaker> hm... 17:21:07 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Webster... That reminds me of Band of Brothers 17:21:34 <PublicServer> *** Peter has left the game (connection lost) 17:22:24 <Thorinbur> tell me you were testing script 17:22:36 <Thorinbur> you realy used webster to calculate that? 17:22:45 <Thorinbur> heh we become really lazy. 17:24:34 *** ccfreak2k has joined #openttdcoop 17:24:42 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> hmmm... 4 more station pairs left 17:24:59 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> one is Chris's WIP (SIP) 17:25:02 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> so 3 more left 17:26:26 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> area 5 is connected trough some crazy anonymous MSH 17:26:35 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> area 3 is started by V. 17:26:37 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002B2B9: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002B2B9.png 17:26:39 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> so really one left 17:27:01 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Area 4? 17:27:08 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> area 7, but it's started by Ben 17:27:23 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Ah 17:27:29 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> so nothing left? 17:27:50 <PublicServer> *** Radicalimero has left the game (leaving) 17:27:52 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> or one of those is open to finish? 17:27:52 *** Radicalimero has quit IRC 17:28:03 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> I want to see some trains! 17:28:14 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Shouldn't the MSH05-station be up for grabs since it's unclaimed? 17:28:15 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and i am ready to build some stations to make it happen:] 17:28:55 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> well MSH05 is quite strange so i suppose autor had something in mind here 17:29:39 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and dont have merge to the west 17:30:14 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oh well... Nothing then :P 17:32:21 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Hmmm... Stopped trains cost nothing here? 17:32:29 <Thorinbur> ?? 17:32:35 <Thorinbur> i think they do 17:32:38 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Nope 17:32:41 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Check economy 17:32:49 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Or rather... Click any train in the list that's stopped :P 17:32:55 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> o.O 17:35:36 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> looks like maintance cost is only valid for moving trains 17:35:42 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yeah 17:35:45 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Noticed that too :P 17:36:25 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> What is the "Other" cost in the economy-window that is there every year? 17:38:55 *** Ben_Totterdell has quit IRC 17:40:33 <Thorinbur> I don't know 17:40:37 <Thorinbur> maybe a bug 17:40:45 <Thorinbur> i got this with new company 17:40:49 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Sigh... Bugs that cost money... No good 17:41:24 <Thorinbur> without single building and with payed debt 17:41:47 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Must be wages to the economy assistant that draws those numbers then 17:42:06 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Or it's embezzelment to the retirement fund of the programmers who made all of this possible? 17:42:23 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 17:44:23 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Hmm... Thor... Check !Hmm? 17:48:26 *** Timmaexx has joined #openttdcoop 17:48:55 *** Starn has joined #openttdcoop 17:49:06 <Starn> !revision 17:49:06 <PublicServer> Starn: Game version is r19253 17:52:29 <Starn> !dl win64 17:52:29 <PublicServer> Starn: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19253/openttd-trunk-r19253-windows-win64.zip 17:52:57 <PeterT> !tell Starn autoupdate 17:52:57 <PublicServer> PeterT: unknown command "autoupdate" 17:53:03 <PeterT> !tell Starn !dl autoupdate 17:53:03 <PublicServer> Starn: http://www.openttdcoop.org/winupdater 17:53:13 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ok 17:53:17 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> wait 17:53:40 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol? 17:53:49 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> welll that doesnt hurt but 17:53:52 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> why? 17:53:53 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Sure 17:53:58 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> But... Who and why? :P 17:54:18 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> To what extent are we supposed to save the beautiful trees? : 17:54:20 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> :P 17:54:55 <PublicServer> *** Giddorah has left the game (connection lost) 17:54:57 <planetmaker> more important: use @quickstart 17:55:00 <Starn> !grfs 17:55:02 <planetmaker> @quickstart 17:55:04 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 17:55:05 <planetmaker> ^ Starn 17:55:13 <Ammler> @slowstart 17:55:13 <Webster> Read everything on the wiki, and I mean everything 17:55:22 <planetmaker> ^ The much better version ;-) 17:55:28 <KenjiE20> heh, another migrant from #openttd 17:55:31 <Giddorah_> Sigh... Hit Giant Screenshot instead of "About OpenTTD"... 17:55:40 <PeterT> haha, Giddorah 17:55:42 <Giddorah_> !password 17:55:42 <PublicServer> Giddorah_: ascent 17:55:43 <planetmaker> Might even be that I followed that slowstart when I joined 30 months ago ;-) 17:55:44 <PeterT> Good luck with your hard drive 17:55:54 <PublicServer> *** Giddorah joined the game 17:56:10 <Giddorah_> Where do the screenshots end up? 17:56:13 <Giddorah_> I'm curious 17:56:20 <planetmaker> your openttd data dir 17:56:23 <PeterT> ~/OpenTTD/ 17:56:25 <Giddorah_> Ah, sweet 17:56:33 <PeterT> planetmaker: If you mean /data, no 17:56:33 <Giddorah_> 68 Mb PNG-Image :P 17:56:39 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00032A40: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00032A40.png 17:56:39 <KenjiE20> same place as your config file 17:56:44 <KenjiE20> wherever that happens to be 17:56:44 <planetmaker> PeterT, that dir is sure to not exist, PeterT 17:56:51 <Giddorah_> Let's see it opened 17:56:58 <PeterT> DONT OPEN IT. 17:57:02 <KenjiE20> Giddorah_: 68Mb compressed 17:57:11 <KenjiE20> about 1Gb decompressed 17:57:17 <planetmaker> :-D 17:57:23 <KenjiE20> have fun with that 17:57:26 <Giddorah_> Well... I'm not too worried about that :) It's opened and looking good :) 17:57:38 <Giddorah_> Damn! It really shows everything :O 17:57:45 <PeterT> [12:56:56] <PeterT> DONT OPEN IT. 17:57:49 <Giddorah_> Can zoom in just like in real game :D 17:58:00 <planetmaker> hehe :-) 17:58:13 <planetmaker> yes, a screenshot for the whole map 17:58:23 <planetmaker> nasty albeit nice, too 17:58:24 <Giddorah_> Indeed... Never seen a giant screenshot befoer :) 17:58:29 <Giddorah_> before* 17:58:42 <planetmaker> it just eats disk space like no tomorrow 17:58:48 <planetmaker> *there is 17:59:07 <Giddorah_> Lucky that I've got a raptor-disk so it doesn't take long to open :) 17:59:46 <Giddorah_> I did get kicked out of the game for doing it though 18:00:04 <Giddorah_> Maybe the server didn't like that I wanted to see every bit of detail at the same time? :P 18:00:09 <KenjiE20> you didn't get kciked 18:00:12 <KenjiE20> kicked* 18:00:18 <KenjiE20> you just took too long to save 18:00:23 <Giddorah_> Ah, okay 18:00:27 <PeterT> Giddorah_: You dysynced 18:00:31 <PeterT> *desynced 18:01:07 <Giddorah_> Too bad I can't see how much memory I'm using when browsing the image 18:02:03 <Giddorah_> Crazy detail though 18:02:15 <Giddorah_> Well :) That was fun... Wish I could de-activate that though :P 18:03:05 <Giddorah_> PNG's really don't mess up colors 18:03:08 <Giddorah_> Incredible 18:03:19 <KenjiE20> That's the idea 18:03:22 <Giddorah_> I'm max zoomed in now and I can't see any color saturation at all 18:03:34 <KenjiE20> png's work off palettes iirc 18:03:43 <Giddorah_> Ah, explains it 18:03:52 <KenjiE20> I could be talking out my rear though 18:04:04 <Thorinbur> hmmm you using windows right? 18:04:11 <Giddorah_> W7 yes 18:04:14 * KenjiE20 isn't that interested in that sort of thing 18:04:21 <Thorinbur> ctrl+ shift + esc 18:04:25 <Thorinbur> proceses 18:04:30 <Giddorah_> It does appear a little "foggy" when zoomed out though 18:04:41 <Giddorah_> Thor: It doesn't show how much is used by the image-viewer though 18:04:44 <Thorinbur> and look how much memory your graphic program uses 18:04:50 <KenjiE20> Giddorah_: that should be extected with x000 x x000 images 18:05:00 <KenjiE20> expected* 18:05:04 <Thorinbur> well than add that tab to the list 18:05:15 <Thorinbur> my manager shows memory usage 18:05:26 <Giddorah_> It says that it's using 11Mb 18:05:32 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 18:05:59 <Giddorah_> But I find that quite hard to believe if the uncompressed image is at 1gb 18:06:10 <Giddorah_> OpenTTD is using 17Mb... :P 18:06:26 <Thorinbur> firefox 170... 18:06:32 <Thorinbur> hate firefox... 18:06:35 <Giddorah_> Don't use Fx 18:06:37 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 18:06:43 <Thorinbur> i use chrome 18:06:47 <Giddorah_> My IE uses about 110Mb though with 8 tabs 18:06:55 <Thorinbur> IE? 18:06:57 <Thorinbur> WOW 18:07:07 <PeterT> Giddorah_: noooob 18:07:10 <Thorinbur> someone using IE tells me not to use Firefox? 18:07:13 <Thorinbur> wow! 18:07:24 <Giddorah_> Haha... Nono... You're free to use whatever you like :) 18:07:30 <Thorinbur> IE is program u use to download web browser 18:07:30 <Giddorah_> I find Fx too memory-hungry though 18:07:41 <Thorinbur> I use Chrome now 18:07:50 <Giddorah_> I don't like the design of Chrome :P 18:07:51 <Thorinbur> quick, clear and small 18:08:03 <Thorinbur> i get used to it quite quicly 18:08:11 <Giddorah_> I was gonna use Opera 10.50 if they finally made every tab in a separate process 18:08:20 <Thorinbur> still i have firefox with some nice plugins installed 18:08:27 <Razaekel> chrome does that, i think 18:08:31 <Thorinbur> yeah 18:08:32 <KenjiE20> heh, Firefox 2 was awful for memory 18:08:36 <Giddorah_> Chrome, Fx and IE does that 18:08:37 <Razaekel> but firefox > all 18:08:43 <KenjiE20> I had it eat about 500Mb once 18:08:53 <KenjiE20> yes it was a fair amount of tabs 18:08:53 <Giddorah_> Yeah... Fx 2 was really horrible 18:09:04 <Giddorah_> Fx3 is much better 18:09:09 <Giddorah_> But still not as good as IE :) 18:09:10 <Thorinbur> Well firefox got bug and sometimes it was eating ram 18:09:14 <KenjiE20> I can have the same amount in FF3 and only ever hit 110Mc 18:09:16 <KenjiE20> Mb* 18:09:22 <Thorinbur> It was growing and growing 18:09:37 <Thorinbur> until it reached my Rams capacity 18:09:43 <Giddorah_> Having high hopes on IE9 though 18:09:44 <Thorinbur> hanged comp for some time 18:09:47 <KenjiE20> Thunderbird 3 is a smorgasm of email and feedly goodness now 18:09:49 <Thorinbur> and than drop 18:09:50 <Giddorah_> They've done quite some work on it 18:10:10 <Thorinbur> IE: you browse internet 18:10:15 <Thorinbur> internet browse you 18:10:26 <KenjiE20> cue: soviet russia 18:10:40 <Giddorah_> IE does what I want it to do :) Browse the web for me :) 18:10:58 <Giddorah_> And I always find little things I'm not used to that bugs me in other browsers 18:11:18 <Giddorah_> The power of being lazy :P 18:11:30 <Giddorah_> It's like the OpenGFX-project for OpenTTD 18:11:39 <Giddorah_> It's the same game... But I really can't enjoy it as much 18:11:56 <Thorinbur> I never use IE 18:11:56 <Giddorah_> If the toolbars could be the same I would enjoy it just as much though 18:11:59 <Thorinbur> Funny thing 18:12:04 <Thorinbur> I dont use IE 18:12:10 <Thorinbur> still when i scan for spyware 18:12:30 <Thorinbur> i got plenty of tracking cookie from IE, and couple from FX 18:12:45 <Giddorah_> Well... Cookies are saved in the same location for all browsers, aren't they? 18:12:46 <Giddorah_> :P 18:13:02 <Giddorah_> The giant screenshot was 4Gb unpacked btw 18:13:27 <Giddorah_> Love the memory management in W7 18:14:32 <KenjiE20> quite 18:14:44 <PublicServer> *** Thorinbur has joined spectators 18:15:32 <Thorinbur> I do really have to finally download W7 and reinstal my Vista 18:15:36 <Thorinbur> brrr... 18:15:40 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 18:15:59 <Giddorah_> W7 is the first OS I've payed for since Windows 98... :P 18:16:08 <Thorinbur> Vista, but only original ystem i have at home (if not counting Ubuntu) 18:16:15 <Thorinbur> but ubuntu is on PC 18:16:31 <Thorinbur> and i have no heart to format my laptop 18:16:41 <Thorinbur> and my DVD-RW is broken... 18:16:48 <Giddorah_> I got Ubuntu, Mandriva, Hackintosh and Windows 7 on my computer... Hardly ever boot the others since I installed W7 18:16:57 <Thorinbur> need to buy external drive 18:17:26 <Thorinbur> well by download i mean 18:17:35 <Thorinbur> download with my academic license 18:17:39 <Thorinbur> ^^ 18:17:40 <Giddorah_> Cheater :P 18:17:56 <Giddorah_> Well... Better than legally downloading it from any torrent-tracker :P 18:17:56 <Thorinbur> why it's perfectly legal 18:18:11 <Thorinbur> hate pirates 18:18:20 <Thorinbur> they are killing PCs 18:18:24 <Giddorah_> Yup 18:18:42 <hylje> pirates are curing the cancer that is killing PCs 18:18:43 <Thorinbur> and developers 18:18:52 <Giddorah_> There are two kinds of people that I really hate... People that pirate OS'es and people that disable automatic updates... 18:19:09 <Thorinbur> well i have AU disabled 18:19:09 <hylje> software is trivial to distribute 18:19:11 *** pugi has quit IRC 18:19:24 <hylje> software is *not* trivial to use effectively 18:19:37 <Thorinbur> but still download many updates 18:19:49 <Thorinbur> but manualy not when windows thinks its good time 18:19:55 <Giddorah_> By disabling I mean never updating 18:20:19 <Thorinbur> My system was not ormated for 3 years 18:20:22 <Giddorah_> Then they complain about getting rootkits and viruses and shit... And they're on a Windows XP SP0 IE6-computer 18:20:26 <Thorinbur> and runs preety good 18:20:38 <Giddorah_> Saying it's all Microsoft's fault :P 18:20:59 <Giddorah_> While the blackhat-guys are grinding their computers with adware :P 18:22:04 <Thorinbur> what is this new fashion on YT 18:22:15 <Thorinbur> Did he/she die? 18:23:06 <PublicServer> *** Kenji joined the game 18:23:16 <Thorinbur> almost every single film on YT got this on first page of comments 18:23:49 <PublicServer> <Kenji> why are you paying attention to youtube commenters? 18:23:51 <hylje> viral advertising 18:25:31 <Thorinbur> well sometimes coments makes video even funier 18:26:42 <PublicServer> *** Kenji has left the game (leaving) 18:26:52 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 18:31:28 <PeterT> Thanks for the rewrite, KenjiE20 18:31:33 <PeterT> You saved me a lot of work :-P 18:32:21 <PeterT> "!Though currently, loading anything other than game.sav sends a bad command and may fail to load" 18:32:32 <PeterT> Shouldn't that be reported to #codecubes? 18:57:16 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 19:01:08 *** Zorn has joined #openttdcoop 19:04:05 <PublicServer> *** Thorinbur has left the game (leaving) 19:06:36 *** LA has joined #openttdcoop 19:08:40 *** Zorni has quit IRC 19:10:20 <LA> Guten Abend :) 19:11:29 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i am off now 19:11:32 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (leaving) 19:11:32 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 19:16:25 <PublicServer> *** Giddorah has left the game (leaving) 19:20:35 *** Zorn has quit IRC 19:21:26 *** Razaekel has quit IRC 19:22:48 <V453000> !password 19:22:48 <PublicServer> V453000: helper 19:23:05 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 19:23:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> O_O 19:23:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> no one here in the evening? 19:25:17 <V453000> hmmm 19:26:00 <Giddorah_> I was, but noone was doing anything 19:26:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> wanna join me? 19:26:41 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003D8E5: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0003D8E5.png 19:26:59 <Giddorah_> Sure 19:27:10 <Giddorah_> !password 19:27:10 <PublicServer> Giddorah_: shrimp 19:27:22 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 19:27:22 <PublicServer> *** Giddorah joined the game 19:29:41 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 19:29:41 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 19:29:48 <V453000> !password 19:29:48 <PublicServer> V453000: shrimp 19:30:04 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 19:30:05 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 19:31:52 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Packaging train and goods-train is very very similar :S 19:32:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> well we dont have more wagons 19:32:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> and I am trying to make them different 19:32:29 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Aight :) 19:32:35 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Not much else you can do I guess :) 19:41:43 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003D7EB: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0003D7EB.png 19:43:07 *** Dred_furst has joined #openttdcoop 19:45:41 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 19:45:42 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 19:45:52 <V453000> !password 19:45:52 <PublicServer> V453000: hunger 19:46:26 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 19:46:27 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 19:49:31 <PublicServer> *** Giddorah has left the game (connection lost) 19:49:31 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 19:51:08 *** Giddorah has joined #openttdcoop 19:51:59 <Thorinbur> !password 19:51:59 <PublicServer> Thorinbur: hunger 19:52:07 <Thorinbur> Let me help you :P 19:52:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 19:52:26 <planetmaker> lool 19:52:33 * planetmaker waves hello 19:52:34 <Giddorah> Stupid ISP... 19:52:38 <V453000> hi pm 19:52:40 <Thorinbur> but wait a sec cos this build starst äuite slow 19:53:15 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 19:53:15 <PublicServer> *** Thorinbur joined the game 19:54:20 *** Phazorx has joined #openttdcoop 19:54:20 *** Webster sets mode: +o Phazorx 19:56:38 <Ryt0n> is there any sense to find in the screenshot made around 20:41? 19:56:40 *** devilsadvocate has quit IRC 19:56:45 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003E2EB: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0003E2EB.png 19:56:53 <PeterT> http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/?C=M;O=A 19:57:17 *** Giddorah_ has quit IRC 19:58:18 <Ryt0n> yes, I know its been taken every 15mins 19:58:26 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 19:58:26 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 19:58:27 <Ryt0n> but what is build there, does it make sense? 19:58:30 <V453000> !password 19:58:31 <PublicServer> V453000: molted 19:58:45 <V453000> guess 19:58:45 <Thorinbur> You mean train yard? 19:58:51 <V453000> ž 19:58:52 <V453000> ^ 19:59:09 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 19:59:10 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 19:59:11 <Ryt0n> yeah 19:59:20 <Thorinbur> It makes sense. It is much easier to create new trains since you clone ones from TY 19:59:34 <Ryt0n> ah ok, thats the train yard... sorry :-) 19:59:36 <Thorinbur> and they are automaticaly added to the groups 19:59:47 <Ryt0n> again, difference between theory (the wiki) and reality is quite shocknig :p 20:00:05 <Phazorx> shocking in what way? 20:00:13 <Ryt0n> I thought trains in the yard were ment just to be inside a depot :p 20:00:33 <Thorinbur> they are always exposed 20:00:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> is that a key difference? 20:00:36 <Phazorx> it's easierto clone themlike this 20:00:41 <Ryt0n> I just tought the "yard" would be a depot stuffed in a corner, nothing more 20:00:51 <Ryt0n> oki :-) makes sense now :p :-) 20:00:56 <Ryt0n> thanks for the explanation 20:00:58 <Thorinbur> most of the time simple one near another 20:01:11 <Thorinbur> but V. wants to make an Eye candy 20:01:12 <Ryt0n> so, this means: its cloning time already? 20:01:19 <Ryt0n> arent there some stations to be build, still? 20:01:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> you answered yourself basically 20:02:01 <Thorinbur> no but many stations are WIP so we are waiting for creators to finish 20:02:20 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 20:02:20 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 20:02:33 <V453000> !password 20:02:33 <PublicServer> V453000: molted 20:03:08 <Ryt0n> ok. and then: next phases are building industries & start cloning? 20:03:14 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 20:03:16 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 20:03:19 *** LA has quit IRC 20:03:35 *** mixrin has quit IRC 20:05:31 <Giddorah> !password 20:05:31 <PublicServer> Giddorah: molted 20:05:40 <PublicServer> *** Giddorah joined the game 20:05:45 <PublicServer> <Ryton> brewery drop has become a nice station 20:07:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 20:07:57 *** Dred_furst has quit IRC 20:08:03 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 20:08:11 <V453000> !password 20:08:11 <PublicServer> V453000: molted 20:08:31 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 20:09:22 <Pirate87> !screen 20:09:24 <PublicServer> *** Pirate87 made screenshot at 0003D8E0: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0003D8E0.png 20:11:44 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 20:11:47 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003DADF: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0003DADF.png 20:11:49 <V453000> !password 20:11:49 <PublicServer> V453000: juggle 20:12:47 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 20:13:18 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 20:13:38 *** mixrin has joined #openttdcoop 20:13:41 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 20:14:31 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 20:14:38 <PublicServer> <Ryton> "RV" = road vehicles? is that implemented already? 20:14:40 *** Timmaexx has quit IRC 20:14:45 <V453000> unbelieveable 20:14:50 <V453000> what Ryton? 20:15:06 <PublicServer> <Ryton> your FIRS solution => bring Engineering/ farm supplies by "RV" 20:15:08 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 20:15:15 <PeterT> V453000: LOL http://hyru.ath.cx:60080/~kenji/ottdcoop/quotes/index.php?q=19 20:15:16 <Webster> Title: #openttdcoop quotes: quote #19 (at hyru.ath.cx:60080) 20:15:35 <V453000> :) 20:16:51 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 20:16:57 <V453000> k 20:17:02 <V453000> trainyard is done 20:17:33 *** Timmaexx has joined #openttdcoop 20:17:46 <V453000> Peter: whats funny about that anyways? 20:18:53 <PeterT> it's soooo funny 20:19:17 <PeterT> You said "I haven't played with myself in a long time" 20:19:27 <V453000> hmmm 20:19:38 <Giddorah> It means masturbate 20:19:41 <PeterT> You should've said "I haven't played by myself in a long time" 20:19:43 <PeterT> Right 20:19:48 *** Timmaexx has quit IRC 20:19:54 <V453000> whatever :D 20:20:05 <Giddorah> = "I haven't masturbated in a long time" 20:20:14 <OwenS> Giddorah: You're doing it wrong! You're supposed to keep the inuendo going for longer! 20:20:26 <Giddorah> I know, but I'm getting tired 20:20:30 <Giddorah> Had a bad night's sleep 20:20:40 <PeterT> Giddorah: So go to sleep and let us deal with it! :-P 20:20:48 <Giddorah> Hehe, go ahead 20:20:49 <virtual> !password 20:20:50 <PublicServer> virtual: juggle 20:21:23 <PublicServer> *** virtual joined the game 20:23:42 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 20:24:38 *** `Fuco` has quit IRC 20:25:46 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oooooh! 20:26:27 *** TinoM has quit IRC 20:26:30 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Oooooh?? 20:26:34 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> TL is amount of cells and not amount of wagons? 20:26:36 *** Kolo has joined #openttdcoop 20:26:49 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003D4DD: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0003D4DD.png 20:26:49 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> nice enlighting 20:27:06 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Haha... I'm so slow atm 20:27:15 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> But that's quite good to know... :P 20:27:20 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> :] 20:28:10 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> You can dowload some archive games 20:28:17 *** Fuco has joined #openttdcoop 20:28:21 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Fuco 20:28:42 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yeah I will when I have refueled my energy-levels :P 20:29:19 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> I slept to 2 pm today (i love weekends_ 20:29:38 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and i will be staying to whenever oscars ends:P 20:29:45 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I was awakened by a vacuuming neighbor at 07AM 20:29:50 <Chris_Booth> V453000: you arround? 20:30:01 <V453000> yes 20:30:02 *** Fuco is now known as `Fuco` 20:30:20 <Chris_Booth> good good 20:30:29 <V453000> why? :) 20:30:32 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> So I went to knock on their door... Unfortunately I picked the wrong neighbour and woke up another neighboru 20:33:18 <PublicServer> *** Kolo joined the game 20:35:18 <PublicServer> *** Kolo has left the game (leaving) 20:35:33 <Giddorah> Isn't there a gallery for the "webcam"-pictures? Where you can browse thumbnails and such? 20:36:01 <virtual> I am completely new to openttdcoop and I have a few questions lol 20:36:06 <Chris_Booth> there is an archive Giddorah 20:36:18 <Chris_Booth> virtual: have you read the quickstart guide? 20:36:35 <virtual> yes 20:37:13 <Chris_Booth> then fire away with the questions 20:37:15 <Giddorah> Chris_Booth: An archive yeah... But no real gallery... Oh well, no biggie :) 20:38:35 <virtual> the stuff you guys are building looks awfully complicated 20:38:46 <KenjiE20> that's not a question 20:38:48 <virtual> how do you know you won't get a huge crash or traffic jam when you finally put trains on it lol? 20:38:53 <V453000> that isnt a question :P 20:39:10 <KenjiE20> signals too obvious? 20:39:49 <V453000> virtual: if you check the archive you can see mostly no jams or crashes :P 20:39:51 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Do as I did :) Take a few moments to study the network and preferrably try finding someone who is building and watch what they're doing 20:39:58 <virtual> what archive is this? lol 20:40:04 <KenjiE20> !archive 20:40:04 <PublicServer> KenjiE20: http://www.openttdcoop.ORG/wiki/PublicServer:Archive | http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/ProZone:Archive | http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/MemberZone:Archive 20:40:30 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Signals is the key though :P 20:40:31 <Ammler> you can use !getsave :-) 20:40:36 <Ammler> !getsave 20:40:36 <PublicServer> Ammler: !getsave <url>: downloads the save from given <url> 20:40:52 <KenjiE20> ? 20:41:27 <Ammler> to load a save 20:41:37 <KenjiE20> ?? 20:41:42 <Ammler> without ssh :-D 20:41:47 <PeterT> They are talking about archives, Ammler 20:41:52 <KenjiE20> ??? 20:41:52 <Thorinbur> ??? 20:41:55 <PeterT> ??? 20:41:57 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> ??? 20:42:03 <Ammler> and me is talking to V453000 20:42:16 <KenjiE20> wrong channel 20:42:19 <Thorinbur> Lol a lot of confusion 20:42:24 <V453000> what? :D 20:42:27 <Ammler> indeed, sorry 20:42:58 <Thorinbur> Nice sync with the actual topic here 20:43:40 <virtual> is there also a way to get the specific version of OpenTTD used for each game? 20:43:45 <KenjiE20> this is about the only IRC channel, ever to have conversations ON topic :P 20:44:01 <KenjiE20> virtual: re-read quickstart 20:44:02 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> It's in the quickstart :P 20:44:08 <KenjiE20> :D 20:45:00 <Ammler> virtual: the current used version "should" be able to load all games from archive 20:45:17 <V453000> yeah 20:45:19 <Ammler> else please report... 20:45:26 <V453000> only problem is sometimes with old grf 20:45:46 <VictorOfSweden> virtual: just say "!dl" 20:45:47 <Ammler> yes, the time, where grf list aren't saved in the save 20:46:02 <Ammler> but that isn't a issue of openttd, rather of our saves 20:46:07 <PublicServer> *** virtual has left the game (leaving) 20:46:15 <KenjiE20> keep reading :P 20:46:26 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> 4 more years and this game celebrates it's 200 year anniversary :) 20:46:34 <KenjiE20> !info 20:46:35 <PublicServer> KenjiE20: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'New Hendtown Transport' Year Founded: 1970 Money: 2326914568 Loan: 0 Value: 2335076144 (T:27, R:0, P:8, S:0) unprotected 20:46:41 <KenjiE20> and nery a train in sight 20:46:56 <Ammler> :-o 20:46:58 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Several trains at the Trainyard (a) 20:47:00 <Ammler> only 30 trains?= 20:47:10 <KenjiE20> trainyards don't count 20:47:22 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> There's a timer-train (a) 20:47:35 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Four divider-trains 20:47:36 <KenjiE20> trainyards and logic don't count 20:47:37 <V453000> 5 are timer and some transfers 20:47:48 <V453000> the 22 might be trainyard 20:48:17 <PublicServer> *** Ryton has left the game (connection lost) 20:48:28 <Ryt0n> thx for info, later all 20:48:34 *** Ryt0n has left #openttdcoop 20:48:34 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> The divider-trains don't follow the trainyard rules though 20:48:53 <KenjiE20> logic stuff rarely does 20:48:54 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> But I guess they shouldn't have to 20:48:58 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> True 20:49:05 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Seen that in other games too 20:49:08 <PublicServer> *** VictorOfSweden joined the game 20:49:22 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> train yards trains do not have rules yet 20:49:32 <KenjiE20> 8 days and 27 trains >_> 20:49:36 <V453000> lol 20:49:54 <KenjiE20> this game was such a .... yea 20:50:33 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> there will be no time to look at trains 20:50:43 <V453000> Giddorah: well if you know that I built both the trainyard and the transfers, there might be a chanse I have a reason why they are different or a reason why they dont need to be :P 20:50:54 <V453000> Kenji: ? 20:51:07 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> we put trains when everything will be ready 20:51:22 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and than say working good and move to another map:P 20:51:30 <V453000> no 20:51:33 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> :] 20:51:38 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> V: Offcourse :) 20:51:45 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i know connecting primaries 20:51:58 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> working out some issues 20:52:04 <KenjiE20> can we just skip to the end of Thors timeline? :P 20:52:19 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ?? 20:52:28 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Finish the last stations :P 20:52:35 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Thors timeline? 20:52:55 <KenjiE20> the one you said about 1 minute ago 20:53:17 <V453000> u mean "move to another map" ? whats wrong with this one 20:53:32 <PublicServer> *** VictorOfSweden has joined company #1 20:53:37 <Thorinbur> Hey i want to see that network in use! 20:53:48 <Thorinbur> That would be stupid to drop it now! 20:53:52 <KenjiE20> complex industry + complex scenario + complex plan = loooooooong 20:54:09 <V453000> :) 20:54:16 <V453000> the game isnt that long yet 20:54:17 <KenjiE20> Thorinbur: I'm not seriously suggesting it 20:54:21 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> 6 stations left, right? 20:54:47 <KenjiE20> I'm being facetious 20:55:03 <Thorinbur> Hope so you are not. 20:55:18 <Thorinbur> I would really like to put some trains in there 20:55:33 <V453000> @dict facetious 20:55:35 <Webster> V453000: wn: facetious adj : cleverly amusing in tone; "a bantering tone"; "facetious remarks"; "tongue-in-cheek advice" [syn: {bantering}, {tongue-in-cheek}] 20:55:45 <V453000> ohhhh 20:55:54 <V453000> tongue in cheek :D 20:55:56 <KenjiE20> "hope so you are not"? >_> not sure how to interpret that 20:56:09 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> He hopes you're not serious :) 20:56:09 <V453000> dinner time 20:56:10 <Thorinbur> you are not suggesting 20:56:15 <Thorinbur> changing the map 20:56:32 <KenjiE20> ah, I see 20:56:32 <virtual> it's yelling about a train with invalid length and suggests the problem is invalid newgrf's 20:56:33 <Thorinbur> that was a little late answer;] 20:56:51 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000265C2: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000265C2.png 20:56:52 <Thorinbur> Too old savegame i guess 20:56:53 <KenjiE20> virtual: old games will do that 20:56:54 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> virtual: Try the get content online-thingie 20:57:00 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oh 20:57:01 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Nvm 20:57:04 <KenjiE20> :P 20:57:17 <virtual> this is game #176 lol 20:57:35 <KenjiE20> okay, what gid said then 20:57:49 <KenjiE20> also, covered by quickstart, sort of 20:57:49 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> virtual: Try the get content online thingie :D 20:58:02 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Or the grf-pack in the quickstart 20:58:06 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Can't remember which one I did 20:58:18 <virtual> i have the GRF pack and everything or the current server 20:58:19 <KenjiE20> both 20:58:21 <virtual> *for 20:58:31 <KenjiE20> previous games != this game 20:58:41 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yeah... Install the grf-pack and use the get content online thingie 20:58:42 <virtual> well the GRF pack hasn't been changed since 2008 20:58:48 <KenjiE20> load the game, and go to the newgrf options 20:58:48 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> That way you should get all the grf's 20:58:50 <virtual> how do you use get content online with a save game? 20:58:58 <KenjiE20> you'll find a content link ala the server one there 20:59:44 <Thorinbur> And get the newGRF pack from page. Not every newgrf can be downloaded by get content online 21:00:13 <KenjiE20> Thorinbur: though pretty much every game Post-BaNaNaS can be 21:00:33 <uliko> @tunnels 21:00:33 <Webster> uliko: (tunnels <trainlength> [<split>]) -- Returns minimum and maximum signal gap sizes for 2,3 and 4 linesplits with <trainlength>. If <spilt> is given it will return the the gap sizes for <split> (+/-) 1. 21:00:43 <KenjiE20> we pretty much just use bananas now 21:00:52 <uliko> @tunnels 3 21:00:53 <Webster> uliko: For Trainlength of 3: < 9 needs 2, 10 - 14 needs 3, 15 - 19 needs 4. 21:01:46 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Tunnels and bridges need the same, right? 21:01:51 <KenjiE20> yup 21:02:17 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> So the @gap command works great then 21:02:21 <KenjiE20> it's the same for anything that breaks signal distance at all 21:02:25 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> @gap 3 5 21:02:30 <Giddorah> @gap 3 5 21:02:30 <Webster> Giddorah: For Trainlength of 3: 15 - 19 needs 4, 20 - 24 needs 5, 25 - 29 needs 6. 21:02:54 <KenjiE20> gap is just an alias iirc 21:03:01 <Giddorah> Hmmm... It was formatted differently yesterday, right? 21:03:15 <KenjiE20> no, there's two commands 21:03:18 <Giddorah> Saying the exact amount of splits needed for the trainlength provided? 21:03:21 <Giddorah> Oh? 21:03:22 <KenjiE20> one is on webster, one is on AP+ 21:03:43 <Giddorah> Ok 21:04:28 <KenjiE20> the one on @webster is the edge finder, the one on !AP+ is for length finder 21:04:48 *** Kolo has quit IRC 21:04:55 <Giddorah> Okay 21:04:58 <Giddorah> !gap 3 5 21:04:58 <PublicServer> Giddorah: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 3 and gap 5. 21:05:02 <Giddorah> @gap 3 5 21:05:02 <Webster> Giddorah: For Trainlength of 3: 15 - 19 needs 4, 20 - 24 needs 5, 25 - 29 needs 6. 21:05:06 <Giddorah> Cool, gotcha 21:05:16 <Giddorah> !tunnels 3 5 21:05:17 <PublicServer> Giddorah: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 3 and gap 5. 21:05:30 <Giddorah> Oh... Stupid me... It says tunnels/bridges... :P 21:05:39 <KenjiE20> heh 21:06:50 <virtual> there should be a way to download the NewGRF's required for a savegame without loading it first 21:07:25 <virtual> one of these days i'll probably download the source and add it myself 21:07:28 <Ammler> indeed would be a nice a patch 21:07:45 <Ammler> maybe a parameter --autoupdate 21:07:47 <KenjiE20> it would still require 'loading' the save to find out what it needs anyway 21:07:56 <Giddorah> True... The load-game window should show the grf-info as the Multiplayer-game window does 21:08:04 <virtual> yes. exactly, Giddorah 21:08:08 <Giddorah> Reading it like a client reads server info 21:08:23 <KenjiE20> Giddorah: it only does that because the server has already loaded it 21:08:30 <Giddorah> KenjiE20: I know :) 21:08:45 <KenjiE20> the save HAS to be loaded *somewhere* 21:08:56 <Giddorah> But there should be some way of reading the grf-data from a savefile without loading the entire save-file 21:09:01 <KenjiE20> can't doing by just looking at it 21:09:18 <KenjiE20> especially as some saves will be compressed now 21:09:18 <virtual> yeah. it should only have to read the section of the save with the NewGRF info 21:09:40 <Giddorah> When you select the save-file, it reads grf-data from it 21:09:56 <Thorinbur> heh guy on one of the forums asked us to telnet 10.0.0.80 <port> because thats where he runned his program... 21:10:04 <Giddorah> Haha 21:10:28 <Thorinbur> and he is claiming that 10.0.0.80 is his IP 21:10:28 <Giddorah> Tell him to try if 127.0.0.1 responds to his pings 21:10:33 <Thorinbur> :] 21:11:18 <PublicServer> *** VictorOfSweden has left the game (leaving) 21:11:19 <KenjiE20> telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl 21:11:50 <Giddorah> That star wars? 21:11:52 <Thorinbur> I am trying to tell him that it might mbe his IP but in local network, and wont work like he want it to... 21:12:11 <Giddorah> Thorinbur: Just tell him to surf to www.whatismyip.com and copy/paste what it says to you 21:13:13 <Thorinbur> Nah want to have more fun because he is th "I know everything - type of guy, and in any topic he is telling his bullshit claiming this is one and only enlightened truth 21:13:31 <Giddorah> Polish or english? I wanna read :) 21:13:59 <KenjiE20> Giddorah: yes 21:14:10 <Giddorah> KenjiE20: It rocks :) 21:14:35 *** Mucht has quit IRC 21:14:36 <Giddorah> http://www.thewebsiteisdown.com/ 21:14:37 <Webster> Title: The Website Is Down (at www.thewebsiteisdown.com) 21:14:38 <Giddorah> That one rocks too 21:15:03 <Giddorah> Atleast the first episode 21:15:09 <Giddorah> Haven't seen the others 21:15:12 *** Mucht has joined #openttdcoop 21:15:12 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Mucht 21:16:01 <Thorinbur> Giddorah: I know TheWebsiteIsDown 21:17:31 <PublicServer> *** Thorinbur has left the game (leaving) 21:17:32 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 21:17:59 <KenjiE20> god, youtube people are retarded: "There is a hidden StarWars movie in telnet that you can view, Microsoft added" 21:18:03 <virtual> it is still missing ns_spoor.1.0/dutchtrainsw.grf but the online content getter says i already have the Dutch train pack 21:18:18 <Thorinbur> :P 21:18:25 <Thorinbur> Microsoft added ... 21:18:29 <KenjiE20> The video is even quite clearly Linux Backtrack 21:19:17 <KenjiE20> heh, another vid from this guy is called "NSA Hacking Vid" 21:19:29 <KenjiE20> the screengrab of which is suspiciously like Uplink 21:19:30 *** Seberoth2 has quit IRC 21:19:31 <KenjiE20> :) 21:19:40 <Thorinbur> :P 21:19:40 <Giddorah> Uplink!! <3 21:20:11 <Thorinbur> Uplink is fun, but i hate interface it is too graphic... 21:20:17 <Giddorah> Yeah 21:20:21 <Giddorah> Should be more command-line 21:20:35 <Thorinbur> At leas a little comand-line 21:20:50 <Thorinbur> copying files by draging copy program on it... 21:21:20 <Thorinbur> Uplink got really funny when you get to hacking LAN networks 21:21:25 <Giddorah> God I love the website is down! 21:22:01 <Thorinbur> I hate that Haker Evolution is not runing on Vista 21:22:13 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop 21:22:23 <Thorinbur> at least not on every Vista... It slows down to like half FPS after a sec 21:22:52 <V453000> !password 21:22:52 <PublicServer> V453000: umpire 21:23:05 <Thorinbur> and i am talking about originl legal Demo version, so don't tell me that it's because of crappy crack and pirated version. 21:23:12 <PublicServer> *** Intexon has left the game (leaving) 21:23:25 *** Drew has joined #openttdcoop 21:23:35 <Drew> hi 21:23:40 <virtual> good grief, i'm not going to read this 232-page forum thread 21:23:41 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 21:23:41 <V453000> hi 21:23:42 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 21:24:38 <Giddorah> Haha... Arrange by penis 21:25:14 <Drew> sorry @noob question - but how do i get the password for the public server? 21:25:27 <KenjiE20> @quickstart 21:25:27 <V453000> @quickstart 21:25:29 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 21:25:30 <KenjiE20> :D 21:25:31 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 21:25:32 <V453000> hmm 21:25:33 <V453000> :P 21:25:36 <Drew> thx 21:25:54 <KenjiE20> I really should go code that auto-replier :P 21:26:00 <Thorinbur> wow! after 5 or 6 posts when guy was explaining for my : "10.0.0.80 can't be your external IP" that telnet is a program that connects to an IP... (Like he always does, answering about something else, you didn't ask...) he finally admited he made a mistake! 21:26:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> :D 21:26:13 <Thorinbur> and gave as proper IP... 21:26:24 <Thorinbur> that guy is funny... 21:26:35 <Thorinbur> in one of his posts he said that: 21:26:54 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00021E6F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00021E6F.png 21:26:58 <Thorinbur> E=mc^2 means that when you get enough mass it will convert to energy... 21:27:30 <KenjiE20> O.o 21:27:56 <KenjiE20> well.... 21:28:10 <KenjiE20> Enough mass will create a gravity well 21:28:23 <KenjiE20> and that MIGHT lead to fission 21:28:25 <Drew> !password 21:28:25 <PublicServer> Drew: sludge 21:28:32 <KenjiE20> depending on what the conposition is 21:28:35 <KenjiE20> com* 21:28:36 *** Intexon has quit IRC 21:28:47 <KenjiE20> but I fear, that's not what he was thinking of 21:29:36 <KenjiE20> you can't say pile twenty thousand pieces of toast together and compress them, and magically get energy 21:29:57 <Thorinbur> :] 21:30:26 <Thorinbur> 20 000 pieces of toast... I'm getting hungry! 21:30:41 <KenjiE20> toast, could be used to make energy though 21:30:48 <De_Ghosty> lol 21:30:56 <KenjiE20> take a slice of buttered toast, and strap it to a cat 21:30:56 <De_Ghosty> E=mc^2 means that when you get enough mass it will convert to energy... 21:30:58 <De_Ghosty> hahahha 21:30:59 <De_Ghosty> :o 21:31:07 <De_Ghosty> is he like in elementry school? 21:31:10 <KenjiE20> toast always lands butterside up, and cats always land on their feet 21:31:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> lol Kenji .D 21:31:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> :D 21:31:26 <De_Ghosty> link plz 21:31:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> :D 21:31:32 <KenjiE20> these counter each other, the cat/toast will hover 4 feet off the ground and slowly rotate 21:31:33 <De_Ghosty> so i can troll 21:31:34 <KenjiE20> :P 21:31:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> I have a cat :) 21:31:51 <virtual> ah. i see the problem. apparently there is a Dutch TRAIN set and a dutch TRAM set. only the tram set exists in the online content 21:31:53 <hylje> how about strap a magnet onto Newton's body and use him as a induction generator 21:32:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> ^ 21:32:29 <KenjiE20> virtual: anything that isn't on the online, Should be in the grfpack 21:32:30 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 21:32:30 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 21:32:33 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 21:32:34 <PublicServer> *** Drew joined the game 21:32:38 <virtual> well um...it isn't lol 21:32:43 <KenjiE20> if not you may have to hunt it down on grfcrawler 21:33:08 <virtual> i hunted down a copy of it and will install it in a minute 21:33:34 <Thorinbur> KenjiE20: lol @ cat + toast hoverign device 21:33:54 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 21:34:01 <KenjiE20> hmm, that IS weird, the train set vanished 21:34:44 <Thorinbur> !players 21:34:46 <PublicServer> Thorinbur: Client 701 (Orange) is Drew, in company 1 (New Hendtown Transport) 21:34:46 <PublicServer> Thorinbur: Client 683 (Orange) is Giddorah, in company 1 (New Hendtown Transport) 21:34:46 <KenjiE20> it was on bananas under NS Spoor 21:34:47 <virtual> yeah. i am thinking the train set should be on the online content server 21:34:59 <virtual> it seems like a major project with over 4,000 posts in the main thread 21:35:01 <KenjiE20> if it's the game I'm thinking of 21:35:06 <Thorinbur> You build anything? 21:36:12 <KenjiE20> Thorinbur: apparently the conditions are quick specific, normally you end up with an irate cat, butter on the floor and bloody shins 21:36:14 <KenjiE20> :D 21:36:20 <KenjiE20> s/quick/quite/ 21:38:06 <Thorinbur> Well thats propably because of influence of enviroment. But in the vacum... 21:41:56 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00025795: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00025795.png 21:44:21 <PublicServer> *** Drew has left the game (connection lost) 21:44:22 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 21:45:09 <PublicServer> *** Drew has left the game (connection lost) 21:45:43 <PublicServer> *** Drew has left the game (connection lost) 21:45:49 <Drew> !password 21:45:49 <PublicServer> Drew: creams 21:46:03 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 21:46:04 <PublicServer> *** Drew joined the game 21:46:53 <Drew> whats with the trainyard? 21:47:11 <virtual> does anyone know anything about manually installing a GRF? 21:48:29 <Thorinbur> Whats with it? 21:49:01 <virtual> the zip file has a file dutchtrainsw.grf, i made a directory data/ns_spoor.1.0 and put dutchtrainsw.grf in there because the game said it's missing ns_spoor.1.0/dutchtrainsw.grf 21:49:13 <virtual> i reloaded the save and it still says the file is missing 21:50:00 <KenjiE20> you don't really need the dir, but it shouldn't hurt 21:50:11 <Thorinbur> virtual: just put it into data folder, either in the game catalog, or in the my documents -> OTTD/data 21:50:17 <virtual> the md5sum looks ok too 21:50:27 <Thorinbur> maybe this is wrong grf 21:50:28 <Thorinbur> ? 21:50:37 <Ammler> if the dir has a version, it is most likely a bananas grf 21:50:49 <virtual> the wrong grf with the right md5sum? not possible lol 21:51:15 <Thorinbur> how did you get md5sum of required grf? 21:51:32 <PublicServer> *** Giddorah has left the game (leaving) 21:51:33 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 21:51:41 <KenjiE20> 89f47f72bbeeeb3c0f773845d6648c60 <-- md5sum of the one I have 21:51:57 <Thorinbur> I am not saying that grf file is corupted just you get different grf than game expects 21:51:58 <virtual> loaded the save, newgrf options 21:52:30 <KenjiE20> which save was this again? 21:52:33 <OwenS> virtual: Possible, but with a 2^-64 probability of happening 21:52:45 <Thorinbur> Save should load all grf's by itself no need to set them manualy (i am not sure, but you even shouldn't set grf's manually) 21:53:14 <Ammler> yeah, officially 21:53:23 <Ammler> but we can ;-) 21:53:40 <virtual> Kenji -> #176, Owen -> isn't it actually 2^-128? 21:53:41 <PublicServer> *** Drew has left the game (leaving) 21:53:43 <Thorinbur> 2^-64 21:53:53 <Thorinbur> 2^256! 21:53:58 <Thorinbur> 2^-256 21:54:07 <Thorinbur> 32*8 21:54:07 <PublicServer> *** Drew joined the game 21:54:11 <Thorinbur> lol 21:54:17 <OwenS> virtual: No, 2^-64 is the probability. 21:54:20 <Thorinbur> ... 21:54:24 <Thorinbur> 2^-512 21:54:24 <PeterT> @calc 2**-64 21:54:24 <Webster> PeterT: 0 21:54:26 <planetmaker> @calc is your friend 21:54:36 <PeterT> @calc 2**(-64) 21:54:36 <Webster> PeterT: 0 21:54:39 <Thorinbur> 2^-512 final answer 21:54:51 <OwenS> @calc 2**64 21:54:51 <Webster> OwenS: 18446744073709551616 21:54:52 <Thorinbur> 32 chars in md5 sum 21:55:02 <Thorinbur> every character is in hex 21:55:15 <OwenS> Thorinbur: 128 bits, therefore probability is 2^-64 21:55:25 <Thorinbur> 128 bits? 21:55:28 <Thorinbur> sure 21:55:29 <Thorinbur> ? 21:55:49 <OwenS> An MD5Sum is 16 bytes (or 32 hex chars). Thats 128 bits 21:55:50 <KenjiE20> did you restart OpenTTD in between <- virtual 21:55:57 <virtual> oh. good idea lol 21:56:00 <KenjiE20> or press rescan 21:56:05 <Thorinbur> lol 21:56:16 <Thorinbur> facepalm 21:56:18 <planetmaker> wiki is sure about it :-) 21:56:47 <virtual> there we go! lol 21:56:52 <virtual> it crashed on the way out 21:56:55 <PublicServer> *** Drew has left the game (leaving) 21:56:55 <KenjiE20> since openttd scans all the grfs at start, not every tick 21:56:57 <Thorinbur> omg... 21:56:57 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 21:57:02 <Thorinbur> i am ashamed 21:57:05 <virtual> probably got nice and corrupted from trying to load the game without the right grf's 21:57:10 <virtual> my bad lol 21:57:11 <planetmaker> "In 2007 a group of researchers described how to create a pair of files that share the same MD5 checksum.[4] I" 21:57:31 <OwenS> planetmaker: Were assuming no malicious intent 21:57:33 <KenjiE20> and thus started the great security kerfuffle 21:57:48 <planetmaker> OwenS: no? Then you don't know me :-P 21:58:25 <OwenS> Last year some guys created their own proof-of-concept CA by exploiting an MD5 colision 21:58:25 <Thorinbur> @calc 2**9 - 1 21:58:25 <Webster> Thorinbur: 511 21:58:36 <Chris_Booth> OwenS: doesnt every thing have malicious intent? 21:58:43 <virtual> how to create a pair of files with the same MD5 checksum: (1) create 2^128+1 files (2) there are only 2^128 possible md5sums (3) ??? (4) profit! 21:58:45 <KenjiE20> intent? no 21:58:59 <KenjiE20> a malicious use? possible 21:59:11 <Thorinbur> Ok i will leave now , and you will forget everything about i was writing about md5 sum bytes hexes and so ok? 21:59:15 *** Thorinbur has quit IRC 21:59:21 <virtual> alternate method: 21:59:21 <OwenS> virtual: As said, you should get a colision between files after 2^64 files 21:59:28 <virtual> (1) echo hello > file1.txt 21:59:32 *** Thorinbur has joined #openttdcoop 21:59:35 <virtual> (2) cp file1.txt file2.txt 21:59:42 <OwenS> (It's still 2^128 to colide with a predetermined MD5SUM) 21:59:44 <Thorinbur> Hi guys! How is it going today? 21:59:55 <KenjiE20> your md5sum is wrong 21:59:58 <planetmaker> virtual: but it doesn't mean you can by throwing dice come up with another file of a given md5 sum 22:00:08 <planetmaker> 2**128 possibilities are A LOT 22:00:40 * OwenS thinks they should have used SHA-512 :P 22:01:21 <OwenS> Incidentally, the only known production user of MD6 at present is Conficker.B 22:01:33 <virtual> of course! method #1 isn't computationally feasible lol 22:06:24 <KenjiE20> there's a computer in cambridge attempting to do a version of the infinite monkeys thing, so I wouldn't say that 22:07:33 <Chris_Booth> KenjiE20: whats the infinite monkenys thing? 22:07:39 <KenjiE20> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_monkey_theorem 22:07:40 <Webster> Title: Infinite monkey theorem - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) 22:13:29 *** Yexo has quit IRC 22:13:46 <PublicServer> *** Drew has left the game (connection lost) 22:13:54 <Drew> !password 22:13:54 <PublicServer> Drew: perish 22:14:11 <PublicServer> *** Drew joined the game 22:15:37 <PublicServer> *** Drew has left the game (leaving) 22:17:27 <Chris_Booth> KenjiE20: i should have know about that is one of my lectures conducted an experiment in that field, and lectured us about it 2 weeks ago 22:17:53 <KenjiE20> Horizon had a thing on it about that time too 22:18:38 <KenjiE20> http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00qszch <-- chapter 6 for the monkey bit 22:18:40 <Webster> Title: BBC - BBC Two Programmes - Horizon, 2009-2010, To Infinity and Beyond (at www.bbc.co.uk) 22:18:50 <KenjiE20> the whole programme's worth watching though 22:19:01 <KenjiE20> (UK only obv.) 22:19:36 <V453000> !password 22:19:36 <PublicServer> V453000: perish 22:19:50 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 22:22:55 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 22:28:30 *** Dred_furst has joined #openttdcoop 22:29:00 <gr00vy> !password 22:29:00 <PublicServer> gr00vy: barter 22:29:14 <PublicServer> *** gr00vaLisTic joined the game 22:32:46 <PublicServer> *** gr00vaLisTic has left the game (leaving) 22:35:52 *** Thorinbur has quit IRC 22:40:22 *** Nickman87 has quit IRC 22:40:35 *** Nickman87 has joined #openttdcoop 22:42:16 <virtual> !password 22:42:16 <PublicServer> virtual: peered 22:42:39 <PublicServer> *** virtual joined the game 22:45:41 <virtual> question about the network plan. when it says "The Gap Solution" is "crossing LL (RR)/V" what does that mean? lol 22:46:04 <KenjiE20> @ll 22:46:04 <Webster> ll: LL / RR or variations thereof are indicating directions on a main- or sideline 22:48:58 *** einKarl has quit IRC 22:49:50 *** ODM has quit IRC 22:50:49 <virtual> so what does L mean? the track is going toward the left side of the screen? 22:51:05 <KenjiE20> coop drives on the right 22:51:28 <KenjiE20> so LL is two track 'away' 22:51:54 <KenjiE20> sorry, 'toward' 22:52:08 <KenjiE20> RR would be 'away' 22:52:37 <Chris_Booth> LL (RR) means a clockwise loop 22:53:16 <virtual> i understand what a clockwise loop is, but how does LL (RR) translate into that? 22:53:43 *** Razaekel has joined #openttdcoop 22:53:48 <Chris_Booth> i just does 22:53:51 <KenjiE20> that reads as two 'toward' tracks, with two optional away tracks. at least tom e 22:54:02 *** Thorinbur has joined #openttdcoop 22:56:24 <virtual> so if you always drive on the right, doesn't that mean your loops have to be counter-clockwise? 22:59:18 <Chris_Booth> no it doesnt 23:00:00 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 23:03:18 *** Dred_furst has quit IRC 23:04:52 <Thorinbur> Heh you are too much concerned about griving side 23:05:23 <Thorinbur> *driving 23:06:29 <virtual> i'm trying to learn what LL and RR mean 23:07:36 <Chris_Booth> virtual: it doesnt realy matter 23:07:46 <Chris_Booth> just drive on what ever side you want 23:08:10 <Chris_Booth> and when you join one of our game watch what others are doing 23:08:38 <virtual> the game is paused right now lol 23:10:42 <Thorinbur> You are the only one on the server 23:11:56 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop 23:13:04 <virtual> i'm also trying to figure out why sometimes there is a parallel track going nowhere, joined to the main track with a 90 degree turn, and a backwards signal on the parallel track 23:13:22 <V453000> @prio 23:13:22 <Webster> prio: Priority, see also: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Priorities 23:13:26 <V453000> ^ 23:16:36 *** Dred_furst has joined #openttdcoop 23:20:04 <virtual> ah. so a train on section A of track can shut down a signal on section B, and A and B can be far away 23:20:50 <Pirate87> !password 23:20:50 <PublicServer> Pirate87: madcap 23:21:36 <PublicServer> *** Pirate87 joined the game 23:22:20 *** Dred_furst has quit IRC 23:24:55 *** Zulan has quit IRC 23:34:46 *** pugi has quit IRC 23:36:02 *** mixrin has quit IRC 23:36:36 <virtual> I think I like the path signal prio better 23:37:21 <V453000> it doesnt matter which one you use 23:37:49 <V453000> but presignals get less cpu ... the difference is minimal anyway 23:40:31 <virtual> interesting. and it's not obvious (to me at least) that presignals are a win CPU-wise because you need more blocks with the presignal design 23:40:39 *** GodsCrap has joined #openttdcoop 23:40:53 <GodsCrap> !password 23:40:53 <PublicServer> GodsCrap: lambed 23:41:05 <V453000> you dont need more blocks 23:41:10 <V453000> oh you mean this ... 23:41:12 <V453000> well 23:41:29 <V453000> dont know in the end :) 23:41:35 <V453000> but the PBS one is very rare 23:42:43 *** GodsCrap has quit IRC 23:43:59 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 23:45:08 <KenjiE20> PBS has to check for a valid path 23:45:17 <KenjiE20> blocks just check if something is there 23:46:52 *** Starn has quit IRC 23:47:42 <virtual> it has to find a path anyway 23:52:37 *** Giddorah_ has joined #openttdcoop 23:53:42 *** Progman has quit IRC 23:55:33 <PublicServer> *** Pirate87 has left the game (leaving) 23:55:37 *** Giddorah has quit IRC 23:59:35 *** Drunkzilla has joined #openttdcoop