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Log for #openttdcoop on 10th March 2010:
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00:01:30  <Pirate87> !screen
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00:01:49  <Pirate87> !playercount
00:01:49  <PublicServer> Pirate87: Number of players: 6
00:03:22  <Pirate87> how r we doing in there ?
00:03:30  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Slowly
00:04:06  <Pirate87> any closer than yesterday ?
00:04:10  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Much
00:04:43  <Pirate87> to releasing trains of course
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00:05:44  <Pirate87> !password
00:05:44  <PublicServer> Pirate87: knacks
00:06:05  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> virtual: you're still trying that SLH?
00:06:22  <PublicServer> <virtual> yes.  it will probably be wrong anyway lol
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00:06:37  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> yes
00:06:40  <PublicServer> <virtual> because i have NO IDEA what i'm doing
00:06:47  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> it is hudge btw
00:06:48  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> so then you shouldn't do
00:06:53  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> you should read wiki
00:07:09  <PublicServer> <virtual> i read a lot of it
00:07:35  <PublicServer> <virtual> but it's too much information, i can't keep track of it all at once
00:07:38  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> download some of previous saves so you get a clue what SLH is
00:08:08  <PublicServer> <virtual> it's where side line joins main line right?
00:08:13  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> yes
00:08:23  <PublicServer> <virtual> so what exactly am i doing wrong?
00:08:32  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> it's huge
00:08:45  <PublicServer> <virtual> well show me how to do it better
00:08:48  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> no acces from both ML tracks
00:08:50  <PublicServer> <virtual> not allowed to terraform
00:08:53  <PublicServer> <virtual> yes there is
00:08:59  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> no there isn't
00:09:02  <PublicServer> <virtual> or will be if i can figure out a way to tie the loose ends
00:09:11  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Virtual :) There are some SLH's you can look at to get the general idea
00:09:21  <Pirate87> virtual, check PSG #175
00:09:32  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> virtual: look at SLH03
00:09:33  <PublicServer> <virtual> ok.  i'm going to go grab it now
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00:09:45  <Pirate87> it's pretty much textbook :)
00:12:42  <virtual> @help
00:12:42  <Webster> virtual: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
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00:17:46  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> My god!
00:17:56  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> this is fun! ^^
00:17:58  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> :P
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00:19:17  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> Pirate87: why are you doing that?
00:19:46  <Pirate87> just found some sign i wanted to correct
00:20:04  <Pirate87> and then i realized i made a mistake myself
00:20:20  <Pirate87> so i corrected it
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00:24:18  <virtual> hmm.  so a sideline is allowed to be only 1 track
00:24:36  <virtual> but every track of the sideline must be able to join every track of the mainline at an SLH
00:25:08  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> SL and ML size depends on the plan we use
00:25:17  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> but basicly yes
00:25:55  <virtual> ah.  i was confused because the game i was looking at before, #176, had every track at least double
00:26:15  <jondisti> we always start sidelines with 1 track
00:26:36  <jondisti> and expand if needed (which is rare and not so nice)
00:27:49  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> and build stations for industries that exist already, not other way :P
00:29:02  <virtual> well someone else said earlier that the plan this time was to not use any existing industries
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00:30:07  <VictorOfSweden> question: why are all the airports located offshore?
00:30:39  <virtual> aah i have just discovered something called the Tutorial Savegame...i shall look at this
00:31:44  <jondisti> virtual: that's what we do with main stations
00:31:48  <VictorOfSweden> all the new ones, at least
00:32:16  <jondisti> saving space for the main thing
00:32:19  <jondisti> trains :)
00:33:00  <VictorOfSweden> looks kinda funny, though
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00:38:01  <AnnaBanz> http://imgnow.info/DSC-1268181481.jpg do my boobs look small?
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00:41:37  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol Giddorah
00:41:46  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> You are still observing?
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00:42:03  <KenjiE20> It's Banz time
00:42:12  <KenjiE20> oh poo
00:42:16  <KenjiE20> lol
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00:46:39  <virtual> ah.  so sidelines generally go off existing industries?
00:47:46  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Somewhat :P
00:48:03  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Was watching the latest episode of house
00:48:09  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> And my computer chair SUCKS!
00:48:14  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> there is new one?
00:48:17  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> owesome
00:48:21  <virtual> another question about sidelines...do they split from and join back with the mainline at the same point?
00:48:29  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> s06e14
00:48:29  <V453000> Kenji: ?
00:48:32  <V453000> oh
00:48:33  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Quite good
00:48:36  <V453000> that fucker is back
00:50:51  <virtual> !password
00:50:51  <PublicServer> virtual: dumbed
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00:54:32  <OwenS> @seen ^Spike^
00:54:32  <Webster> OwenS: ^Spike^ was last seen in #openttdcoop 2 days, 13 hours, 36 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: <^Spike^> in-game that is
00:54:47  <OwenS> @seen *buster
00:54:47  <Webster> OwenS: *buster could be [com]buster (6 days, 5 hours, 21 minutes, and 41 seconds ago), combuster (1 week, 2 days, 12 hours, 38 minutes, and 7 seconds ago), [alt]buster (2 weeks, 5 days, 9 hours, 57 minutes, and 3 seconds ago), [sleep]buster (25 weeks, 4 days, 23 hours, 40 minutes, and 22 seconds ago), [other]buster (33 weeks, 3 days, 8 hours, 56 minutes, and 51 seconds ago), [com2]buster (1 more message)
00:58:02  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lool
00:58:12  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i f... it up
00:58:40  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Not much space left :P
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01:07:53  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I could move the station one cell south
01:08:14  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> hmmm
01:08:29  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i will try to build like it would be moved
01:08:47  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Well... It's smart to move it either way
01:08:55  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> So I'll just do it while you build, okay?
01:09:06  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> 2 tiles
01:09:15  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Aight
01:11:41  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol
01:11:57  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Bleh
01:12:55  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Crap
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01:15:57  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Hmm
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01:23:27  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> it needs rebuild anyway
01:23:39  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Ya... Just wanna solve this one once :P
01:23:54  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i will demolish it later:P
01:24:02  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I know :P
01:24:44  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Ah! Feels good :)
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01:30:05  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> So close... And yet so far :P
01:30:28  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> I am not sure if it will work...
01:30:41  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Well.. It's 2:30AM
01:30:46  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Not supposed to work
01:30:47  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i know
01:31:00  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> can't leave it like that
01:32:07  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Everyone's sleeping while we're roughnecking :P
01:34:30  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Wait wait
01:34:36  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Hold on
01:34:40  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> That's an entrance
01:36:17  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Tunnels need adjustment
01:36:42  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> but small one
01:36:59  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> ?
01:37:00  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i think it will fit:P
01:37:12  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ehy?
01:37:19  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> why?
01:37:22  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yeah :) But the tunnel is the wrong way :P
01:37:23  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> oh
01:37:41  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Did you know the Ctrl+Click signs to delete them?
01:37:44  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Even better
01:38:12  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yeah :) One cell on the right side :D Good for us
01:38:59  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Hmmm... The tunnels on the ML is weirdly signalled
01:39:52  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Holy!
01:40:01  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> what?
01:40:02  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> That better be you Thor or I'll kill someone
01:40:03  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> :P
01:40:04  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> lol
01:40:15  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> But yeah
01:40:20  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Probably better to start over
01:40:39  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Crap
01:40:43  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Found another buggy tunnel
01:42:43  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Someone should seriously disable your nuke-button :P
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01:51:09  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Wait
01:52:14  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> XD
01:52:17  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Nice :D
01:55:46  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> @gap
01:55:51  <Giddorah_> @gap
01:55:51  <Webster> Giddorah_: (gap <trainlength> [<split>]) -- Returns minimum and maximum signal gap sizes for 2,3 and 4 linesplits with <trainlength>. If <spilt> is given it will return the the gap sizes for <split> (+/-) 1.
01:56:07  <Giddorah_> @gap 3
01:56:07  <Webster> Giddorah_: For Trainlength of 3: < 9 needs 2, 10 - 14 needs 3, 15 - 19 needs 4.
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01:59:45  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> We can make tunnels 1 cell shorter?
01:59:53  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Wait... Maybe not
02:04:02  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> this just a draft
02:04:07  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Haha
02:04:11  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yeah :) I understood that
02:05:00  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Can I delete the exit-signs?
02:05:09  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> yeah
02:06:01  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Hmmm
02:06:11  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> We have 4 entrances and 3 exits?
02:06:22  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> yeah
02:06:27  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Aight
02:07:05  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> there was no way to both connect them to all 4 exits nor to mix them below
02:07:16  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yeah :) I saw that :P
02:08:48  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> space recycling
02:08:54  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Haha
02:10:58  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Bad corner at the end though
02:11:16  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> where?
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02:18:12  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> f...
02:18:21  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> ?
02:18:41  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> missed one conection
02:18:45  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> ???
02:18:48  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Which one??
02:21:22  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Hmm
02:21:32  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> If we lower the three tunnels
02:21:35  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> We get another cell
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02:22:12  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> 2 cels
02:22:39  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Haha
02:22:40  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol
02:23:29  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> many cels
02:23:33  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yeah
02:23:37  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> That was good :)
02:23:47  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Excellent!
02:28:21  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> X is to sync tunel
02:28:37  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I know... But... Trains will get stuck in that 90 deg. turn
02:28:38  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Right?
02:28:45  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> fuck
02:28:48  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Wait
02:28:51  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I got an idea
02:29:15  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Crap
02:29:16  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Nevermind
02:29:18  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol
02:29:28  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> idiots
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02:30:01  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> LOL
02:30:11  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Hahaha!
02:30:14  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> We are retarded
02:33:29  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> oh
02:33:59  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> You do know that we've been working on this for 13,5 hours... Right?
02:34:06  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> :]
02:34:13  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and it can fail:P
02:34:23  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Very sad, but very true :P
02:36:01  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I think it'd be easier to tunnel that last entrance
02:36:28  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Instead of the bridges
02:39:02  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> man
02:39:07  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> It's perfect... Except for one thing
02:39:19  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> One last challenge
02:39:22  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> That entrance we just did
02:39:56  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> no
02:40:00  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> No?
02:40:14  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> right to right left to left
02:40:25  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> cl
02:40:28  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oh well :)
02:40:31  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Where?
02:40:31  * Razaekel comes to find errors
02:40:39  <Razaekel> omg, the whole thing is a FLOP!
02:40:40  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> well
02:40:51  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> there are many
02:41:10  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i mean this is tricky and might not work
02:44:00  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> it has inherited errors
02:44:09  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Where?
02:44:29  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> some tricks, but developed by me so possibly wrong
02:44:35  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Haha
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02:44:49  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> overaly it is bad
02:44:56  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> but actually may work:P
02:44:58  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Let's just name the area and get some rest... We can perfect it tomorrow
02:47:03  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> hmm..
02:47:25  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Was a good run :D
02:49:00  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> tomorow i will test it localy
02:49:07  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Do so :)
02:49:18  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I'm off to bed... Don't think I'll have any trouble falling asleep
02:49:24  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> See you tomorrow man
02:49:25  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> This is so far most complicated thing i ever build
02:49:28  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Haha
02:49:37  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> One thing I do love
02:49:46  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> We started with having everything crunched together in the middle
02:49:49  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Look at it now
02:50:00  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> The middle is the most spacious area :P
02:50:15  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> cos it was not build by me...
02:50:26  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> True :)
02:50:26  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> well now it is
02:50:45  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Maybe do a little tweak to the outer exit tomorrow
02:50:50  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Dunno... We'll see
02:50:55  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> but i stick everything in the coorners and then demolish and rebuild
02:51:17  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> prios left
02:51:26  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Tomorrow man
02:51:33  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> yeah
02:51:35  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> night
02:51:40  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> G'night!
02:51:54  <Thorinbur> !screen
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02:51:59  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Eywa
02:52:06  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Be with you :)
02:52:17  <Thorinbur> !screen
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02:52:28  <Thorinbur> Eywa ngahu ma tsmukan
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02:53:19  <Thorinbur> that was.. hardcore....
02:53:25  <Giddorah_> Sick
02:54:05  <Thorinbur> Kiyevame ma 'eylan ulte Eywa ngahu.
02:54:21  <Thorinbur> ^^
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09:38:36  <jondisti> !password
09:38:36  <PublicServer> jondisti: cleats
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09:44:19  <Drunkzilla> @cl
09:44:19  <Webster> cl: Curve Length, mostly used to describe how big a curve must be to let pass trains with a certain TL at full speed, see also: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Max_Curve_Speed
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10:24:40  <Gleeb> ...that's some serious banning.
10:26:00  <planetmaker> spam bots
10:26:04  <planetmaker> from all of that range
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10:48:00  <Gleeb> ah *
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10:53:01  <Simon> !password
10:53:01  <PublicServer> Simon: frugal
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10:55:49  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> erm...just wondering about the large lack of trains
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10:58:36  <CommieSi> what happened to the public game...
10:59:25  <CommieSi> Rail Union on strike?
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11:00:53  <planetmaker> !info
11:00:54  <PublicServer> planetmaker: #:1(Orange) Company Name: '#openttdcoop PSG 178'  Year Founded: 1970  Money: 3230849816  Loan: 0  Value: 3231231454  (T:32, R:0, P:8, S:0) unprotected
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11:36:58  <Sander_Buruma> !download win32
11:36:58  <PublicServer> Sander_Buruma: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19253/openttd-trunk-r19253-windows-win32.zip
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11:37:44  <Sander_Buruma> !sfx
11:37:51  <Pirate87> !screen
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11:38:09  <Pirate87> !password
11:38:09  <PublicServer> Pirate87: ordain
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11:41:40  <Sander_Buruma> !grf
11:41:40  <PublicServer> Sander_Buruma: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/GRF (Version 7.3)
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11:52:53  <Thorinbur> !info
11:52:53  <PublicServer> Thorinbur: #:1(Orange) Company Name: '#openttdcoop PSG 178'  Year Founded: 1970  Money: 3240897450  Loan: 0  Value: 3241254350  (T:32, R:0, P:8, S:0) unprotected
11:53:02  <Thorinbur> Iplayercount
11:53:11  <Thorinbur> !playercount
11:53:11  <PublicServer> Thorinbur: Number of players: 3
11:53:18  <Thorinbur> !password
11:53:19  <PublicServer> Thorinbur: boxers
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11:54:06  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> baxk to signaling
11:54:25  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> pretty nice hub Thorinbur
11:54:59  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> hope it will work. Thanks
11:55:14  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> going to finish it now and test locally finished version
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12:00:10  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> oh Pirate. i see you finished prios
12:00:18  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> thanks
12:00:27  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> np
12:00:48  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> i thought u won't be here for a while
12:01:06  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> nah i need to finish it!
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12:05:39  <Thorinbur> ok i think that's all
12:10:51  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> Thorinbur: just noticed there are some inconsitencies in your hub
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12:12:23  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> where exactly/
12:12:25  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ?
12:12:30  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> maybe i know about thaem:P
12:12:44  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> i'm putting up some signs
12:13:44  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> 2->4 split it splits exit to west and east
12:14:16  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> saved some space on the top of the hill spliting it here
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12:15:02  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> how to explain that
12:15:15  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> 2 tracks from the pickup
12:15:39  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i know wont produce more than 2 tracks to the exit
12:15:42  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> don't have to split in 4
12:16:18  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> 2 of this 4 tracks could be used to handle the trains from the drop
12:16:21  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i would have to spliti it 4 at the end
12:17:03  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i know i was thinking about that to connect drop exit here
12:17:11  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> \
12:17:19  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> so why didn't u ?
12:17:26  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> no space
12:17:45  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> espetially that when i was building that
12:17:56  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> there was still old entrance
12:18:15  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> i'll send u a savegame in a while
12:18:27  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> now it is completely rebuild so there is a little more space
12:18:36  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> how long will u be here ?
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12:29:17  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> some time
12:29:34  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> more than hour for sure...
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12:33:13  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> F...
12:33:34  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> some smal parts of track were build by Giddorah...
12:33:41  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> they are not electrificated...
12:39:11  <Pirate87> just convert them
12:39:16  <Pirate87> !password
12:39:17  <PublicServer> Pirate87: roofed
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12:41:06  <Pirate87> http://rapidshare.com/files/361479803/_openttdcoop_PSG_178__21st_Sep_2256.sav
12:41:17  <Pirate87> Thorinbur, check out that save
12:41:36  <Pirate87> i made some improvements to your hub
12:41:36  <Thorinbur> k
12:43:05  <Thorinbur> not really
12:43:28  <Thorinbur> 2 most right lanes were going east on tme ML
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12:45:36  <Ryton> whats the link to the last Screenshot?
12:45:50  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> type !screen
12:46:00  <KenjiE20> screenshot.png
12:46:07  <KenjiE20> or visit the site
12:46:21  <KenjiE20> you know, the one you're on?
12:46:56  <Ryton> yeah lol
12:47:02  <Ryton> didnt remember the exact location
12:47:20  <Ryton> but its in the root dir, that makes sense  :-)
12:47:28  <Ryton> !screen
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12:47:45  <Ammler> !url is best
12:47:45  <PublicServer> Ammler: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/
12:48:12  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> Thorinbur: we'll see how it works
12:48:15  <KenjiE20> or visit the site <--
12:48:27  <Ryton> thx, its a lot more informative, indeed :-)
12:48:39  <KenjiE20> just click on the latest shot link, shadowbox auto pulls the latest every time
12:48:43  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> cause if it doesn't you'll have a lot to rebuild :P
12:48:48  <KenjiE20> regardless of last refresh
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12:54:22  <Ryton> so, its almost ready for train flooding?
12:54:29  <Ryton> 38 trains active, I see?
12:54:43  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> only some test train i think
12:55:04  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> and the trainyard
12:56:36  <Thorinbur> ok added so many trains that fast forward don't work anymore:P
12:57:04  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> lol
12:57:23  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> drop plus pickup exit doing good evenly filling both lanes of ML with packed stream of trains
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12:59:56  <Ryton> !screen
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13:00:00  <Ryton> got to see that :p
13:00:13  <Ryton> !screen
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13:00:54  <Thorinbur> nah
13:00:56  <Thorinbur> locally
13:01:03  <Thorinbur> testing my MSH
13:01:05  <Ryton> yeah
13:01:13  <Ryton> I just saw it tought so :-)
13:01:17  <Pirate87> Thorinbur, what I wanted to say from the start is that your MSH is overcomplicated
13:01:24  <Ryton> your 13 hours straight work? ;-)
13:01:31  <Pirate87> couldn't find that word :P
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13:02:30  <Thorinbur> i will send you save with my BBH filing both lines of ML without cloging.
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13:02:33  <Pirate87> i tried to fix it locally, but i'd have to rebuid it almost from scratch to show my point
13:02:35  <Thorinbur> can't be better
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13:02:52  <Thorinbur> maybe it is overcomplicated
13:03:18  <Thorinbur> but who cares lok at jond1sti's MSH
13:03:24  <Pirate87> i'd love to see the savegame
13:03:44  <Pirate87> i've seen it
13:04:12  <Pirate87> it's complicated
13:04:28  <Pirate87> but it can't be simpler
13:04:31  <Pirate87> yours can
13:05:10  <Pirate87> this 4 tracks made it much harder to build
13:05:34  <Thorinbur> http://rapidshare.com/files/361486873/_openttdcoop_PSG_178__12-03-2256.sav.html
13:06:44  <Thorinbur> it's only 150 trains but on short loop so they most of the time fill ML completely
13:07:15  <Pirate87> try sending them in all directions
13:08:02  <Pirate87> not only to this one pickup, but also to the other and to the drop
13:09:37  <Pirate87> ohh there are some going to other stations
13:09:41  <Pirate87> sorry
13:09:53  <Thorinbur> well ML is one way
13:10:04  <Thorinbur> so they all try to go that way
13:10:34  <Thorinbur> if they go other way they would back up so almost never they would chose this station
13:10:45  <Thorinbur> increased drop Train count to 130
13:10:55  <Pirate87> build them a waypoint then
13:11:19  <Thorinbur> we will in real game if needed
13:12:17  <Thorinbur> found signal gap:P
13:12:37  <Pirate87> where ?
13:13:00  <Pirate87> i meant for the test
13:13:11  <Pirate87> make them go the other way
13:13:19  <Pirate87> at least some of them
13:14:36  <Thorinbur> ok it clogged
13:14:41  <Thorinbur> ML capacity reached:P
13:14:50  <Pirate87> at how many trains ??
13:14:57  <Pirate87> 130 ?
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13:15:09  <Thorinbur> 200
13:15:12  <Thorinbur> But i said
13:15:16  <Pirate87> impossible
13:15:17  <Thorinbur> ML capacity reached
13:15:54  <Pirate87> ok, not impossible
13:15:56  <Pirate87> but strange
13:16:08  <Pirate87> i'll be going
13:16:16  <Pirate87> got a date today
13:16:25  <Pirate87> have to get ready ;)
13:17:08  <Thorinbur> hmmm...
13:17:16  <Thorinbur> ok found one improvement and one cl
13:17:22  <Thorinbur> Cl easy to fix
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13:24:33  <Thorinbur> Hi Chris. I hope you wont say MSH suck and blow it up:P
13:24:46  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no in a blowing up mood atm
13:24:49  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Just tested it and it's doing ok
13:25:02  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i just blew alot of stuff on the PZ server
13:25:22  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> so i could put a 4 track LL_RR ML and 3 way BBH in a city centre
13:25:38  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol
13:25:51  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and what about that said local authorities
13:25:58  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> not too happy
13:26:09  <OwenS`Phone> Magic bulldozer
13:26:14  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ^^
13:26:41  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yeah
13:26:49  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> plus it was only suburbs mainly
13:26:57  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and i gave them a new sbahn
13:27:08  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and new faster link to local cities
13:27:19  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> Owen my city is now 99% finished
13:27:28  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> hey!
13:27:32  <OwenS`Phone> Also, if his las are like mine in Takazaki, then nothing you can do will budge them from outstanding
13:28:02  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> why someone changed PBS's to presignals at the bridge?
13:28:15  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> PBS uses a bit more CPU
13:28:20  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and every little helps
13:28:25  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> (it wasnt me)
13:28:28  <OwenS`Phone> Cb: Then wextend the conurbation northwards
13:28:48  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yeah
13:29:01  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and turn it into a megaopalis
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13:29:28  <OwenS`Phone> Taz is a huge conurbation also :p
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13:29:42  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yeah but doesnt look as cool
13:29:47  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and only has 1 station
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13:30:04  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> also owen i had a great idea to boodt TAZ's main station capactiy
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13:30:07  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> by 25%
13:30:21  <OwenS`Phone> How? =D
13:30:29  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i am testing it at HRI atm
13:30:51  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i got 5 platforms into that space the old TL9 3 platforms took up
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13:31:30  <OwenS`Phone> Aah, stack them :)
13:31:51  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yeah and bank 1 has a reverse PBS pen
13:31:56  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and bank 2 doesnt
13:32:08  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> so that trains wont block looking for a plat
13:32:33  <OwenS`Phone> I did similar in the last psg, except i made the space :p
13:32:47  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i thound signal gap at Vs lakeRider while testing my MSH ^^
13:33:02  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> *found
13:33:27  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> you fixed it>
13:33:54  <OwenS`Phone> If I can pack in enough capacity ill probably add 2 new sbahns
13:34:46  <Thorinbur> yeah i was sure it was not on purpose
13:34:51  <Thorinbur> so no need for leaving it
13:35:21  <Thorinbur> It stopped half of ML on my locall server
13:39:09  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> :(
13:39:12  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> boom happened
13:39:28  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Chris is that you?
13:39:32  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> nope
13:39:36  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> me
13:39:51  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> jond1sti: why? didn't like pirates prios?
13:39:53  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> Thorinbur: i dont blow everything up
13:39:54  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> :P
13:40:02  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> Thorinbur: i didn't touch prios
13:40:09  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> i didn't like desynced bridges :P
13:40:57  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> if only someone finished MSH 04
13:41:04  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> then we could get some trains going
13:41:15  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> oh you are right they were desynced
13:41:30  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> thanks
13:42:03  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> not me i got enough
13:42:20  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i will stick to SLHs and connecting primaries now
13:42:24  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> not me i am being lazy
13:42:31  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> Thorinbur: don't connect primaries
13:42:32  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i got 2 big MSHs here
13:42:42  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> plan says not until every main station is ready
13:42:43  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i am talking about future not now
13:43:03  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i will wait till someone finishes last MSH
13:43:06  <jondisti> <Thorinbur> i will stick to SLHs and connecting primaries now
13:43:13  <jondisti> looks like 'now' there :P
13:43:15  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and THAN stick to it
13:43:26  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> now like from now on
13:43:41  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> *Then
13:44:50  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> now we need someone who is ready to finish last station
13:44:57  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> V! Where are you!
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13:45:28  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> still 4 desynced double bridges/tunnels there :P
13:46:20  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> oh, 5
13:47:16  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> to your sign: yes
13:47:39  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> all 3 signs: yes
13:48:33  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> if it isnt built when i get bk i will build it
13:48:40  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but that doesnt mean leave it to me
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13:53:30  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> may i ask: what's the point of !this line anyway?
13:53:55  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> original design:P
13:54:09  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> goes to one half of a drop
13:54:24  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> but other line from that direction doesn't have access to both
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13:54:42  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> maybe that will do no harm if i let it stay there :P
13:55:31  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> well you are right... this is propably inherited error
13:55:33  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> :P
13:55:43  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> but additional line won't harm
13:55:54  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> it's lack of connection that hurts
13:55:55  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> but it will be rarely used i think
13:56:52  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> it would be pro
13:56:55  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol?
13:56:57  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> wait
13:57:11  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> oh no...
13:57:14  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> what?
13:57:18  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i got lost
13:57:43  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> oh ok...
13:57:44  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> now i got it
13:57:45  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> hmmm
13:57:53  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> other line from east doesn't have connection do drop
13:57:54  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> to*
13:58:02  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> yeah
13:58:34  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> but drop is big enough for each line so part of a drop for line would be enough
13:58:59  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> you know why it isn't?
13:59:46  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> let's say there is SLH on northern part of ML loop for example
14:00:05  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> where a train pickups and then goes to your drop
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14:00:30  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> it can't choose the other ML track because lack of connection
14:00:42  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> that messes up balanced network
14:01:02  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> hmm shouldnt all SLH have choice?
14:01:09  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> yes
14:01:14  <Chris_Booth> but what about your station?
14:01:44  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> it has 6 drop platforms for ML line
14:01:53  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> should be enough
14:01:56  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> which all ML lines can't access
14:02:01  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> that's the point
14:02:02  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ...
14:02:15  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Outer ML can acces all 12
14:02:24  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> inner it's own six...
14:02:32  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> train coming from east
14:02:36  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> outer ML track
14:02:39  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> can't access drop?
14:02:49  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> you got it?
14:03:16  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> they can
14:03:42  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> from easy
14:03:43  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> look again
14:03:45  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> wait
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14:07:59  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> hmmm
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14:15:41  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol
14:15:42  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> wait
14:15:56  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> we got 2 solutions:P
14:16:42  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> there we go
14:17:08  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> now that 1 line is gone but it wasn't neccessary
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14:17:24  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> no
14:17:37  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> well somehow yes
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14:17:44  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> what yes?
14:17:49  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> but it could stay
14:18:06  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> without it there would be no connection
14:18:08  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> never mind
14:18:13  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> you have right
14:18:19  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> there are all neccessary connections
14:18:22  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> you *are right
14:18:34  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> but look how easily it can be built back if needed
14:18:41  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> see sign?
14:18:54  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> and there
14:18:59  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> haha
14:19:20  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> but i'd rather leave it out for now
14:19:27  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> and build mixing there if needed
14:19:32  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> yeah
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14:22:30  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> oh
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14:22:43  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> i'll go walk my dog
14:22:47  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> one CL fixed
14:22:52  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> two more left
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15:20:39  <PublicServer> <SmatZ> afternoon cooper
15:20:40  <PublicServer> <SmatZ> s
15:21:26  <PublicServer> <SmatZ> "waste production decreases"
15:21:43  <PublicServer> <SmatZ> who wants industry with its primary production being "waste"
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15:24:41  <PublicServer> <SmatZ> what part of ML needs finishing?
15:24:53  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> MSH04 and stations
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15:25:08  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> paper mill and recycling plant
15:25:23  <PublicServer> <SmatZ> :)
15:28:00  <Ammler> lol SmatZ
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15:28:11  <SmatZ> hello Ammler :)
15:28:15  <SmatZ> the map looks so dead
15:28:23  <jondisti> why's that?
15:28:24  <Ammler> because?
15:28:25  <SmatZ> with just 32 trains on that network
15:28:41  <SmatZ> actually, not on that network :-p
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15:28:48  <Ammler> not possible to have some running already?
15:28:50  <PublicServer> <Intexon> hello
15:29:14  <SmatZ> I thought so, yeah :)
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15:40:22  <Thorinbur> !password
15:40:22  <PublicServer> Thorinbur: azures
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15:43:48  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> MSH 4 left
15:43:58  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and main stations
15:45:48  <Giddorah_> There really should be a shortcut-link to the IRC-Channel directly from the .org homepage
15:46:47  <gleeb> an irc:// link?
15:47:35  <Thorinbur> Giddorah_: Oel ngati kame.
15:48:00  <Thorinbur> Next time when you build make sure that you use electrificated railll
15:48:13  <Giddorah_> Oh! I didn't? :O
15:48:22  <Thorinbur> not everywhere
15:48:32  <Giddorah_> Wtf? I did in some places?? :O
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15:48:40  <Thorinbur> i don't know
15:48:44  <Giddorah_> !password
15:48:44  <PublicServer> Giddorah_: duking
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15:48:49  <Thorinbur> i am just sure that when testing
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15:49:00  <Thorinbur> trains were omiting some paths
15:49:24  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Ah! I see why... I've inactivated the electrified rail graphics
15:49:46  <Thorinbur> and when i forced them to use them they were stoping without the reason...
15:50:14  <Thorinbur> i am it also deactivated so didn't noticed it at the begining
15:50:24  <Thorinbur> took me a while to figure thet out...
15:50:46  <Thorinbur> It works ok now.
15:50:57  <Thorinbur> one CL left and two desync bridges
15:50:57  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Hmmm... Where do you activate it?
15:51:45  <Thorinbur> ctrl + x
15:52:01  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Ah! Gotcha :)
15:52:03  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Thanks
15:52:12  <Thorinbur> it is already fixed
15:52:27  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Hmmm... Those tunnels aren't desynced... Are they?
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15:53:38  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> they are
15:53:45  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oh?
15:54:14  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> or...
15:54:21  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> hard to say
15:54:28  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> How did it look locally?
15:54:37  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> And did your exit above Pickup #2 work out? :)
15:54:44  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> yeah
15:54:48  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Awesome
15:54:55  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Our 13 hours were well spent then :P
15:54:55  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> filled ML:]
15:55:08  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> so what now?
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15:55:11  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ML 04?
15:55:12  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> :P
15:55:14  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Fix the CL first
15:55:19  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> no way
15:55:27  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> this line will be barely used
15:55:30  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> hmmm
15:55:31  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Should be an easy fix, don't you think?
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15:55:51  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Bridges are desynced too
15:55:53  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol
15:55:56  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> LOL
15:56:02  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> It was the wrong way!?
15:56:04  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> but theye were doing good
15:56:22  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Flag it as tested locally maybe?
15:56:25  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ah! I mved it
15:57:07  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I think that was jond1sti that flagged that desync, right?
15:57:13  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> yeah
15:57:16  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> yes
15:57:22  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Thought so :)
15:57:37  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> wait
15:57:47  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> i've got solution
15:57:49  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Didn't even see that it was
15:58:05  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol i though you were spectating
15:58:32  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> hmm
15:59:28  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Bridge it?
15:59:30  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Should be easier
15:59:33  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> no\
15:59:34  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> nope
15:59:41  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> No?
15:59:42  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> bridges must be length 5+
15:59:48  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> tunels dont
15:59:56  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I meant bridge the mainline
16:00:10  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol
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16:00:20  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> but no need
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16:00:25  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> True
16:00:29  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> but actually it would be easier
16:01:22  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> yes it would have been :P
16:01:32  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Easy aint always cool :P
16:02:00  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> And cool always owns easy :P
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16:02:08  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> yes
16:04:06  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> heh
16:04:07  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Thor or jond building now?
16:04:22  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> Thorinbur: watch
16:04:35  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> it is sure desynced?
16:04:41  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol
16:04:44  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> now it is syncd
16:06:03  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> nnope
16:06:16  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> can't get signals there
16:06:17  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> why not?
16:06:21  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> oh
16:06:25  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Exit
16:06:30  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Err... Exits
16:07:38  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> look
16:07:47  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ll
16:08:35  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> XD
16:08:52  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Aight
16:08:55  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> We done with thata area?
16:09:20  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i guess
16:09:26  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> at least for now
16:09:37  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Hehe
16:09:40  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Aight... Next?
16:09:56  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Giddorah: http://rapidshare.com/files/361486873/_openttdcoop_PSG_178__12-03-2256.sav.html
16:09:59  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> heh no one likes to build MSH04 + stations
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16:10:04  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> without fixes
16:10:17  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> not me... give me a breake...
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16:10:43  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> *break
16:11:16  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> 1 entrance 2 exits?
16:11:38  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> entrance is already mixed
16:11:51  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> merge before split
16:12:17  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> oh
16:12:22  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> it is not eve mixed
16:12:25  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> just merged
16:13:25  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> jond: Work your magic and let me and Thor watch :) We were here until 4AM trying to fix that last one :P
16:13:57  <jondisti> it would take too much my precious time
16:13:59  <jondisti> :P
16:14:02  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> HAH
16:14:09  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Bleh! Time is the last thing we run out of
16:15:06  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> hmm
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16:15:36  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> a lot of space here
16:16:33  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> you checked that sav?
16:16:33  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> if i would build it, i'd have to rebuild those mergers and i'm not in the mood for that
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16:18:09  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> now i'm off for a while
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16:29:40  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> MSH04 and MS04 is what's left to build?
16:30:07  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> yes
16:30:14  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and then we can connect primaries
16:30:41  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Aight
16:30:46  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Hope someone builds it then (a)
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16:37:46  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> hmmm i think i already saw that episode...
16:37:52  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> House)
16:38:05  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol...
16:38:18  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> tried to scroll web page by holding RMB
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16:39:39  <seandasheep> !dl win32
16:39:39  <PublicServer> seandasheep: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19253/openttd-trunk-r19253-windows-win32.zip
16:41:47  <seandasheep> !password
16:41:47  <PublicServer> seandasheep: whacks
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17:17:44  <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players)
17:19:52  <Thorinbur> Giddorah_: You checked the save?
17:20:33  <Thorinbur> !password
17:20:33  <PublicServer> Thorinbur: foible
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17:31:34  <CommieSi> !password
17:31:34  <PublicServer> CommieSi: wafted
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17:31:55  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> hey
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17:36:11  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> hi
17:36:22  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> so whats happening with this game?
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17:39:05  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> well we are finishing last MSH
17:39:13  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and that we are ready to connect primaries
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17:39:38  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> sorry about my slow answers, but i am working over something else right now
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17:39:47  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> thats no worries
17:40:07  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> jus trying to get back into coop after a few years out
17:40:12  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> MS 04 left to be build
17:40:17  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Finish MS04 :P
17:40:25  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> :P
17:40:37  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> we can't find volonteur for that.
17:40:53  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> those hubs here are pretty big
17:41:00  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> as you can see
17:41:08  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and  i already build 2
17:41:13  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> i can see
17:41:26  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> i think "at the deep end" comes to mind
17:41:27  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> considering i am quite new here than it's enough for me
17:42:07  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> this is third game i take part in, In the first one i build just small SLH and conected some primaries
17:42:46  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> in the second I build one of the ICE stations, and feeders loop
17:42:50  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> what exactly needs doing at MSH04?
17:42:57  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> MS04
17:43:00  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> The stations
17:43:13  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> now 2 Main stations and big hubs
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17:43:24  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> At MSH 04:
17:43:33  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Paper Mill and Recycling plant
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17:43:43  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> so stations for those two industries
17:43:50  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> in the  moutains...low tf i guess?
17:44:05  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> coop terraforming
17:44:06  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i think
17:44:21  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> just dont flatten whole mountine because it is easier:P
17:44:35  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> *whistle*
17:44:45  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> of course not...the terrian looks like it was done for a challenge :-P
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17:47:20  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> ok gonna get a coffee and have a look at it
17:47:35  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I'll take a look too... Just for fun
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17:57:51  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> so this statin is gonna need about 8-12 plats for drop/pickup each?
18:00:12  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> hehe i love how this game resizes
18:00:22  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> I can watch house
18:00:27  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0001C350: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001C350.png
18:00:33  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and have a conversation
18:00:50  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Thor: I know... I love it :)
18:01:12  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Well so about your question
18:01:21  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> there are two lines comming
18:01:38  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> so 12 platforms
18:01:45  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> would be enough
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18:02:42  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> so thats a total of up to 48 plats for both industry drop and pick?
18:03:09  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> drop is shared. Most likely
18:03:22  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> good point
18:03:34  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol at House
18:03:39  <bobstay> !download lin
18:03:39  <PublicServer> bobstay: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19253/openttd-trunk-r19253-linux-generic-i686.tar.bz2
18:03:40  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> exactly at Wilson
18:03:55  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> who watched last episode know what i am talking about
18:04:00  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> don't want to Spoil
18:04:03  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> but
18:04:05  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> HAHahahaha
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18:08:32  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Damn i hate that partial translation
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18:09:41  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Ok
18:09:47  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> so basicly:
18:11:01  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Drop isL Wood, Engineering Supplies, Waste
18:11:39  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Pickups: packaging , scrap metal, goods
18:13:23  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> I wonder if there shouldn't be 3 pickups
18:15:06  <bobstay> !password
18:15:06  <PublicServer> bobstay: meekly
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18:15:37  <bobstay> ... fail
18:15:39  <bobstay> !password
18:15:39  <PublicServer> bobstay: tissue
18:15:42  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ??
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18:17:11  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Tl 3
18:17:22  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> oops i counted 4
18:17:24  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> ta
18:17:49  <PublicServer> *** Player joined the game
18:17:49  <Webster> Player, please change your in game nick
18:20:43  <PublicServer> <Player> about time to archive this game? :P
18:20:51  <PublicServer> *** Player has changed his/her name to Zerpa
18:21:09  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Yeah right...
18:21:36  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> its been a week, with no trains :(
18:22:03  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> today
18:22:10  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> there will be a train
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18:22:46  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> there will be trains
18:23:11  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> tomorow most
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18:25:51  <Thorinbur> !password
18:25:51  <PublicServer> Thorinbur: tissue
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18:26:13  * bobstay looks at plan, scratches head
18:26:21  <bobstay> you made... a giant roundabout?
18:26:40  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> we made a giant empty network:P
18:26:57  <bobstay> but it only goes one way round the coast, right?
18:27:02  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> yeah
18:28:18  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> who is building MSH04
18:28:20  * bobstay tries to get his head round this
18:28:23  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> me
18:28:26  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and
18:28:29  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> me again :P
18:28:32  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> :]
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18:32:52  <Ryt0n> !password
18:32:52  <PublicServer> Ryt0n: movers
18:32:55  <Ryt0n> small q:
18:33:01  <Ryt0n> where can i find the IP adress for this server?
18:33:21  <KenjiE20> !ip
18:33:21  <PublicServer> KenjiE20: ps.openttdcoop.org
18:33:28  <Ryt0n> i see the url, but I'd like an ip NUMBE , so i can start it in using a master program
18:33:30  <Ryt0n> number*
18:33:36  <Ryt0n> I can always ping it
18:33:44  <Ryt0n> but it probably changes from time to time?
18:33:46  <KenjiE20> yea, that would be the way
18:33:53  <Thorinbur> you answered yourself
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18:34:11  <Ryt0n> sorry
18:34:20  <Ryt0n> should have thought before asking :-)
18:34:59  <KenjiE20> surely every language can do some from of ip_resolv
18:36:00  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> are we going to transport Scrap metal?
18:36:15  <bobstay> There's a train for it in the trainyard...
18:36:23  <planetmaker> ou, still the FIRS game? :-)
18:36:33  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> still the same
18:36:36  <planetmaker> !info
18:36:36  <PublicServer> planetmaker: #:1(Orange) Company Name: '#openttdcoop PSG 178'  Year Founded: 1970  Money: 3502962718  Loan: 0  Value: 3503171202  (T:32, R:0, P:8, S:0) unprotected
18:36:38  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> still no trains:P
18:36:46  <planetmaker> he :-P
18:36:51  <planetmaker> lazy folks here :-P
18:36:53  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> but.. soon
18:37:00  <Thraxian|Work> I think next FIRS game (there will inevitably be one) should be a bit more organic in nature
18:37:02  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> last  MS is being build!
18:37:20  <planetmaker> The next FIRS game should foremost use a newer version of FIRS ;-)
18:37:31  <planetmaker> I uploaded r600 to bananas few hours ago...
18:37:48  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> is it better?
18:38:02  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> oh than lets start over with this new one!
18:38:03  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> XD
18:38:08  <planetmaker> different and more advanced :-)
18:38:28  <Thraxian|Work> what does the more updated FIRS have?
18:38:29  <bobstay> I get the feeling this isn't an ideal game to cut my teeth on :P
18:38:32  <Thraxian|Work> more station types?
18:38:32  <planetmaker> Probably has better cargo handling and processing
18:38:35  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> one pick up for everything?
18:38:45  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i don't think thats good idea...
18:39:14  <KenjiE20> bobstay: probably not
18:39:18  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> at least do this packaging pickap from both ind's
18:39:26  <bobstay> I'll watch this one then :)
18:39:38  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and build two more, for scrap metal and goods
18:39:59  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> 2 pickups
18:40:04  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> both industries have its own
18:40:11  <planetmaker> yeah.... no insane production values. Output of secondaries relates to input
18:40:17  <bobstay> what's the purpose of the airports? to grow towns?
18:40:28  <Thraxian|Work> income
18:40:39  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Not only income
18:40:42  <Thraxian|Work> long plane trips make money so we can build this giant network
18:40:43  <planetmaker> http://paste.openttd.org/225208 <-- those who want the whole story of changes ;-)
18:40:55  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> it is in plan
18:41:06  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> that we transfer pax trought air
18:41:12  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> so it's not only moneymaking
18:42:08  <Thorinbur> need help with translation of FIRS? I hate mixed Polish, english translation cos i don't know what to search for...
18:42:18  <bobstay> right
18:42:25  <Thorinbur> there is for example paper mill in the plan
18:42:40  <Thorinbur> but i have to search for "zakład papierniczy"
18:43:16  <planetmaker> Thorinbur, sure, such translations are always helpful. But I'm not entirely sure whether it's already the time to supply an update... it's still a bit in a flow
18:43:26  <planetmaker> That's why it's not yet really a released NewGRF :-)
18:43:39  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ok tell me wen it is stable enought to translate ^^
18:43:43  <planetmaker> Things change - thus strings also change and non of the FIRS devs speaks polish
18:44:01  <planetmaker> I sure will happily do so then :-)
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18:49:59  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol
18:50:08  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> dont flatten whole mountine:P
18:50:20  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> trying not to :P
18:50:24  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> :]
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18:51:59  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> you eralize how much sand workers had to move from there?
18:52:01  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> :P
18:52:14  <bobstay> where is this mountain-flattening occurring?
18:52:15  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> no wonder Chrises worker went on strike
18:52:18  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> they should be happy they have a job
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18:52:33  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> This is just moving it a little
18:52:38  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> MS 04
18:52:59  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> last piece of network left to be build
18:53:00  <PublicServer> <bobstay> aha, I see :)
18:53:21  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> not too steep?
18:53:25  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> 2 up
18:53:35  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> in a row?
18:53:38  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> trains using that are going to be empty
18:53:41  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> so shouldn't matter
18:54:03  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> hmm...
18:54:08  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ok
18:54:16  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> we will see
18:54:44  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> V said he tested it
18:54:47  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> with empty trains
18:54:52  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Ok than
18:55:00  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> is V said so
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18:55:03  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> :P
18:55:26  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> i don't like using this much TF
18:55:33  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> but it would be nice to get some trains in this game too
18:56:12  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> it's about time
18:59:59  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> heh i wish this whole building could be fastforwarded
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19:00:53  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> another split?
19:01:14  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> wow spliting and mixing and spliting
19:01:42  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> no mixing :(
19:02:33  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ah i see left with left, right with right
19:02:45  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and splited to drops
19:02:59  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> yes
19:03:22  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> so now they split into 1 drop and 2 pickups
19:03:27  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> that's my job done for today :)
19:03:31  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> heh.. When Ben finished this MSH he said (Qoute) I don't understand why other MSHs are so complicated
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19:03:46  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> there might be the reason :P
19:04:01  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> I said: There is still a lot of spiting and mixing to be done
19:04:08  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> heh here is an example
19:04:23  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> there would have been other style for this game too
19:04:44  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> start with small constructions and expand where needed
19:05:19  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> but i'm off again
19:05:20  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> bye
19:05:25  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Cu
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19:07:05  <SmatZ> Client #1000  name: 'Ryton' ! You are 1000th client in this game, plase click http://xkcd.com/570/ this link for your prize
19:07:06  <Webster> Title: xkcd: New Car (at xkcd.com)
19:08:34  <Thorinbur> xkcd – komiks internetowy tworzony przez Randalla Munroe'a, absolwenta Christopher Newport University, który pracował jako kontrahent dla NASA. ...\
19:08:49  <Thorinbur> ^^
19:10:25  <SmatZ> :)
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19:15:00  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> come on finish this!
19:15:04  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> someone...
19:15:07  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> anyone?
19:15:20  <Thorinbur> ...
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19:15:42  <Thorinbur> just realized i send you definition from Polish! wiki...
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19:26:40  <CommieSi> sry just on phone
19:28:14  <KenjiE20> !playercount
19:28:14  <PublicServer> KenjiE20: Number of players: 5
19:28:16  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> last pick up left
19:28:19  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and exits
19:28:52  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> entrance is done (thanks to jond1sti
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19:35:46  <Giddorah> !password
19:35:47  <PublicServer> Giddorah: typhus
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19:37:30  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> thats not fair...
19:37:42  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> with such merge it's too easy!
19:37:44  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> "{
19:37:47  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> :P
19:38:32  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> my staion exit is terrible tho
19:38:41  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> i'm gonna look at it a bit more
19:38:44  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> one more statin to be build!
19:38:55  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> at MS04?
19:39:07  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> yeah only Drop can be combined
19:39:14  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> lol
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19:49:11  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> now where to pput tjis last station...
19:49:25  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> *apologies for typos :-P
19:50:14  <Paul2> !password
19:50:14  <PublicServer> Paul2: groggy
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19:52:44  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> theres a farm right in my way...
19:53:04  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> maybe terminus
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19:54:16  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and your exit has no mixing
19:54:56  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and i found CL
19:55:06  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> CL?
19:55:15  <KenjiE20> @cl
19:55:15  <Webster> cl: Curve Length, mostly used to describe how big a curve must be to let pass trains with a certain TL at full speed, see also: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Max_Curve_Speed
19:55:18  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> curve length
19:55:29  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> ofc
19:57:53  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> i think that solves it after tunnel
19:59:20  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> reversed signal
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19:59:32  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> fixed
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20:09:20  <bobstay> Do you think we'll get trains tonight?
20:10:21  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol
20:10:28  <bobstay> I'll take that as a no... :P
20:10:29  <KenjiE20> @quote get 1
20:10:29  <Webster> KenjiE20: Quote #1: "<+PublicServer> <vhab> the lack of trains is intentional I assume? <@Mark> no we play without trains <@Mark> new game style <+PublicServer> *** vhab has left the game (leaving)" (added by KenjiE20 at 11:00 AM, June 19, 2009)
20:10:41  <bobstay> hah
20:10:54  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> bugger...
20:11:31  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> terminus?
20:11:40  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> it'll fit...
20:11:42  <bobstay> damned sheep.
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20:12:02  <bobstay> *carve* that mountain
20:12:53  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> but i am afraid exit would need redoing
20:13:42  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> drp exit on only one ML lane each direction, and first pick up exit's on other lane
20:13:57  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> both should have access to both
20:15:16  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> hmm..
20:15:27  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> they both mix on hilltop
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20:15:51  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> when they split
20:17:35  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> not really
20:18:06  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> dey just choivce whever to go east or west
20:18:17  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> ic
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20:21:12  <PublicServer> <bobstay> how many platforms are you planning there? (and how do you decide?)
20:21:53  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> 12 -splitting for to groups of 6
20:21:56  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> he plans a lot, co they fit:P more than needed for sure
20:22:25  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> so scrap 2 go for 10?
20:22:41  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> nah there is plenty of space
20:22:50  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> its a challenge :-P
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20:25:40  <bobstay> !password
20:25:40  <PublicServer> bobstay: ponies
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20:26:28  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> now to merge 6 lanes someghow on a mountainside
20:26:45  <PublicServer> <bobstay> :D
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20:31:28  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> i am going insane...
20:32:25  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Me and Thor was up 13 hours straight until 4AM to finish MSH and MS07
20:32:44  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> sod it i'm unemployed...i got nothing to wak eupfor
20:32:53  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> See? :D There's light in the tunnel!
20:33:46  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> You done btw?
20:33:47  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> :P
20:34:01  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> *twitches*
20:39:42  <PublicServer> <bobstay> Am I right in thinking that the aim of this construction is to get the 6 lines out of the stations and onto the two exit lines such that any of the 6 lines can end up on either of the exit lines?
20:39:56  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yep
20:40:03  <PublicServer> <bobstay> *scratches head*
20:40:39  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Trains need to be able to choose whatever line regardless of starting track and end up on the track that is shortest to it's goal
20:41:01  <PublicServer> <bobstay> Yep. Got the goal. Scratching head over implementation :D
20:41:24  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Implementations are always tougher than goals :P
20:41:39  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> the lack of a TL$ fast bridge is really getting to me
20:41:44  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> L4
20:42:02  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I bet
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20:47:06  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> You know you can hold down CTRL while you have the auto-track tool selected to erase tracks? :)
20:47:31  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> i am rusty...
20:47:35  <KenjiE20> or push r
20:47:36  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> :-)
20:47:49  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Or what Kenji said :)
20:48:59  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> also doing this whilst having a fag
20:49:40  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> I have studies i do have what to wake up for... Doesn't mean i do(wake up at time)
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20:52:14  <OwenS> @seen Ben Totterdell
20:52:15  <Webster> OwenS: (seen [<channel>] <nick>) -- Returns the last time <nick> was seen and what <nick> was last seen saying. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself.
20:52:20  <OwenS> @seen Ben
20:52:20  <Webster> OwenS: I have not seen Ben.
20:52:22  <OwenS> @seen Ben*
20:52:22  <Webster> OwenS: Ben* could be Ben_Totterdell (1 day, 1 hour, 46 minutes, and 22 seconds ago), Benny (2 weeks, 1 day, 6 hours, 32 minutes, and 38 seconds ago), Benny_ (2 weeks, 1 day, 6 hours, 44 minutes, and 13 seconds ago), Benko (2 weeks, 5 days, 21 hours, 51 minutes, and 24 seconds ago), Benom (2 weeks, 6 days, 21 hours, 33 minutes, and 33 seconds ago), benj (39 weeks, 2 days, 14 hours, 5 (1 more message)
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20:55:53  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> ok thats the easy 1/2 done
20:56:20  <PublicServer> <bobstay> Not a lot of mountain left for the other half...
20:57:08  <PublicServer> <bobstay> oh, other side of the valley, I guess...
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21:01:23  <PublicServer> <bobstay> You didn't forget that one track that ends up near the plastic plant, did you?
21:01:45  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> damn!
21:01:49  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Hehe
21:02:10  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Good call Bobstay :) Easier to fix now than under load ;)
21:02:11  <PublicServer> <bobstay> Lol, I was debating about it, but thought "nah, he knows what he's doing..."
21:02:25  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> its getting very confusing..
21:02:33  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> One question too many is preferrable to the opposite :P
21:09:17  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> hmmm
21:09:24  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> maybe left iit splited?
21:09:33  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Well...
21:09:49  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> You've got ALOT of trains going down that path
21:10:00  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Might be easier to merge atleast some tracks there already?
21:10:15  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i mean the entrans
21:10:20  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> not exit
21:10:23  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oh
21:10:37  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I see no reason to merge anything there :)
21:10:43  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> But hey
21:10:53  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> This is my FIRST coop game... So don't rely too heavily on my advice :P
21:12:00  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Who are working on the signals?
21:12:07  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Thor? :P
21:12:31  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i am wondering if its beter to use pre signals or PBS
21:12:38  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> pre are more CPU-friendly
21:12:58  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> It aint really our job to save the server, is it? :P
21:13:09  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> actually it is
21:13:13  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oh?
21:13:20  <KenjiE20> Giddorah: would you like to join at end-game?
21:13:22  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> What kind of server is it running on?
21:13:24  <KenjiE20> if so, then yes
21:13:35  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> you should build so both network will make it
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21:13:46  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and server will make it
21:13:54  <KenjiE20> Server has no issues running the game
21:13:57  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> you want to drop like V.
21:13:59  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Have you crashed a server yet?
21:14:00  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ?
21:14:03  <KenjiE20> it's the network joins that won't cope
21:14:07  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oh, yeah?
21:14:18  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Bad network stack in OTTD?
21:14:19  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> yeah you will desunc and drop
21:14:27  <KenjiE20> no
21:14:49  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Maybe that's why it's lagging while you build then
21:15:18  <KenjiE20> when you join, you get a save, followed by all the changes since, and OTTD runs on turbo to resync, if you don't make it before the time out, too bad, you get dropped
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21:15:58  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> ok gota retrace...
21:16:12  <KenjiE20> so the more cpu friendly the game is, the less work needed to do to 'turbo up' to current
21:16:38  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Aight
21:16:38  <KenjiE20> the more likely it is you sync up before the time out
21:16:48  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> How long is the timeout, and can you set it?
21:17:07  <KenjiE20> 3 days, iirc about 70~ ticks
21:17:27  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> What's that? 3 seconds?
21:17:29  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Wait
21:17:31  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> 10?
21:17:40  <KenjiE20> around that
21:17:46  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Aight
21:18:19  <KenjiE20> if the game gets really heavy, we can help things by adding pause_on_join
21:18:36  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> it is actually already on
21:18:36  <KenjiE20> but if your processor chokes while starting all the trains up, you've had it too
21:18:39  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> It pauses until someone pushes play?
21:19:00  <KenjiE20> pause_on_join pauses while someone joins... oddly enough
21:19:02  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> And... You can't change the timeout time?
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21:19:33  <ZiZa> !password
21:19:33  <PublicServer> ZiZa: infest
21:20:20  <Phazorx> Giddorah: there is n point
21:20:27  <KenjiE20> ^
21:20:31  <Phazorx> it pauses unill plyer has successfully joined
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21:20:42  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> see
21:20:43  <PublicServer> <bobstay> like that
21:20:43  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> :P
21:21:18  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> first game i took part in was dropping me even if the save was running ok
21:21:19  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yeah... But I mean... Can you change the time it takes to timeout someone? Should do a difference on high-load games
21:21:34  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> so it is worth to save the cpu
21:21:37  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Giving the server more time to turbo it
21:21:39  <KenjiE20> not really, since we use pause_on_join
21:21:46  <Phazorx> Giddorah: dont really see how it can help with pause on join
21:22:03  <KenjiE20> and the server doesn't have to turbo it
21:22:08  <KenjiE20> the server's IS current
21:22:37  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Aight
21:23:07  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> well resyncing ith server and sending all the changes are alone enough to make you drop when game is intense enought
21:23:28  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Aight
21:24:04  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> That's a big merge :P
21:24:15  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> haha i wish i had so much space
21:24:16  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> :P
21:24:23  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> but why you merge 6->2
21:24:30  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> it should be 6->4
21:24:38  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> sorry i tell you this so late:P
21:24:46  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> but i was working at the entrance
21:24:46  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> It's now we tell him we've reversed the hubs? :P
21:25:08  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> thats not too hard to solve..
21:26:48  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> You missed
21:26:50  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> HAH!
21:26:58  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> aaah
21:27:03  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> whats goin on
21:27:08  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> :P
21:27:10  <KenjiE20> the worst thing would be a spontaneous TL change
21:27:12  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> If things explode = Thor
21:27:22  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> or Chri
21:27:23  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> That's what I was thinking of Kenji :P
21:27:24  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> s
21:27:36  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lets make TL 5
21:28:07  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> basicly avery hub/stations will have to be blown up and rebuild
21:28:08  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Who's "the best" networker on here?
21:28:26  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Every station would have to be blown up for sure
21:28:38  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Some hubs might do with a major edit :P
21:29:18  <devilsadvocate> that sounds like fun
21:29:46  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yeah... Let's do that when there's only one MS left and it's almost complete :P
21:30:32  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Why does Great Fleningville have two airports btw?
21:30:58  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00021392: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00021392.png
21:34:55  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Wonder why it refuses to keep my Currency Unit?
21:38:26  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> hate you OTTD...
21:38:50  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> how to know you are playing too much OTTD:
21:38:51  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> 1.
21:39:03  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> you try to scroll web pages with RMB
21:39:09  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> 2.
21:39:34  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> when you try to close some programs you press delete
21:39:37  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> 3. you doodle station layouts...
21:39:50  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> both happened to me
21:39:53  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> both today
21:40:09  <KenjiE20> I always try to interact with screenshots
21:40:40  <KenjiE20> ooh, what's over... oh right
21:40:46  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I try to find the nuke-button on annoying MSN-people
21:41:08  <KenjiE20> don't add them then
21:41:10  <KenjiE20> :P
21:41:31  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Too late for that... A very annoying canadian who always calls me by first name like he's known me for his whole life :P
21:44:54  <PublicServer> *** bobstay has left the game (connection lost)
21:45:10  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> bob"stay" has left :) An Oxymoron :)
21:45:18  <bobstay> god dammit
21:45:26  * bobstay gives up for tonight
21:45:44  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I think you might be welcome back tomorrow :)
21:46:00  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00021094: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00021094.png
21:47:11  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Think you might have missed a mix
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21:52:12  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Triple-slope
21:52:22  <Chris_Booth> !password
21:52:22  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: taints
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21:52:40  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Howdy CB
21:52:56  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> howdy all
21:54:11  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Hehe
21:54:19  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Doubleslopes will haunt you to death :P
21:56:16  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> that climb at rp + pm is way to steep
21:56:18  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> can't see the isse with the this...here
21:56:48  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> That track can't really get to the outer tracks, can it?
21:56:59  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> follow it..
21:57:10  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> ooh the outer outer
21:57:35  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yeah, sorry :) I meant Outer Outer :)
21:57:41  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> that may be overkill..
21:58:17  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> CB: V tested it... It's okay with empty trains
21:58:28  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> what about full trains?
21:58:35  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> Marc Riley just got me thru that construction
21:58:36  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> use a crawler lane to make sure
21:59:07  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> You mean at the Drop CB?
22:00:54  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> nope
22:00:57  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> You sure CB?
22:01:02  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0001D979: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001D979.png
22:01:16  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> well
22:01:19  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> its drop
22:01:36  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> so trains are full
22:01:38  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Exit is marked too
22:02:15  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> one up one straight is also too steep?
22:07:03  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ??
22:07:20  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> are you finishing it? thinking?
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22:08:23  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> there is a error in mixing
22:08:28  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yeah
22:08:29  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> He knows
22:08:38  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Inner to outer
22:08:42  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ??
22:09:03  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Inner track to outer track?
22:09:35  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> there is station that mixes only to west
22:11:36  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> True
22:11:41  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Two errors in mixing
22:11:41  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> we are so close
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22:12:59  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> That's important too right?
22:13:00  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> nor line mixed both
22:13:17  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> So it's not important?
22:13:37  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> well it should but...
22:13:56  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> we can always try to add mixing at MSH itself
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22:15:08  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> there is a lot of space there so if it will be problem it will be fixable
22:15:17  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> biger problem is the line i marked
22:15:46  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> but i think it can be fixed relatively easy
22:15:57  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> CommieSi: Still here?
22:16:04  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00020D7B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00020D7B.png
22:16:43  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> fixed:P
22:16:48  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oh
22:16:50  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Good :D
22:17:38  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> so if we agree with no mixing
22:17:42  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> than its basicly done
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22:19:50  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Ok lets signal it
22:20:01  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> CommieSi seams to be AFK
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22:20:25  <Ben_Totterdell> !password
22:20:25  <PublicServer> Ben_Totterdell: legume
22:20:46  <gr00vy> hiho
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22:21:19  <gr00vy> !password
22:21:19  <PublicServer> gr00vy: legume
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22:22:03  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hiho
22:22:09  <PublicServer> <Ben Totterdell> hi
22:23:05  <Chris_Booth> hi Ben_Totterdell
22:23:07  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> is there something i could do?
22:23:13  <Chris_Booth> you should try PZ again
22:23:19  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> nothing too complicated, though :D
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22:23:52  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> we may soon be able to start connecting primaries
22:23:57  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> oh ok
22:25:47  <CommieSi> sorry just got called away
22:26:03  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> fixed one bad merge and conected
22:26:11  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> signaled
22:26:15  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> check it out
22:26:20  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> thanks :-)
22:26:47  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> mixing can be added in MSH itself
22:26:54  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> we will see haw this would do
22:27:05  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> all i gotta do now is a staion walk
22:27:16  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> why?
22:27:18  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ah
22:27:21  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> station walk
22:27:22  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> is there any SLH i could start building?
22:27:30  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> man
22:27:41  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i thought you want to move some stations
22:27:43  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol?
22:27:46  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> dont need
22:27:51  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> hey
22:27:54  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> W
22:27:58  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> WAIT
22:28:03  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Man
22:28:04  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ...
22:28:24  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ... Don't you know CTRL + click station buildiing?
22:28:27  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ...
22:28:42  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> saves rebuilding...
22:28:47  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> it's faster
22:29:21  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> heh...
22:29:25  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Are you reading this?
22:29:26  <PeterT> Talking to yourself, eh?
22:29:35  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> yea
22:31:06  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0001EE6E: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001EE6E.png
22:31:08  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ok is there anyone capable of claiming: Main station building pahase is over?
22:31:34  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Nope... But I could do it anyways?
22:31:40  <Thorinbur> ^^
22:31:54  <Thorinbur> V453000: Are you around?
22:32:03  <V453000> somewhere here exactly
22:32:07  <Thorinbur> We finished last station.
22:32:16  <V453000> awsum
22:32:17  <Thorinbur> Maybe exit isn't perfect but...
22:32:27  <V453000> I am coming in
22:32:27  <V453000> sec.
22:32:31  <Thorinbur> great
22:32:42  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ok found someone capable:P
22:33:07  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> well...
22:33:20  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> no ISR :-(
22:33:26  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ISR?
22:33:45  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> Industrial Stations Renewal
22:33:48  <V453000> !password
22:33:48  <PublicServer> V453000: births
22:33:52  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> don't put my credit i just put qouple of missing signals
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22:34:12  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> or you me to take responsibility for messed signals:P
22:34:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> heya
22:34:37  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Hi.
22:34:52  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> exit climbing will be funny :)
22:34:54  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> @ MSH04
22:35:08  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> take a look at MS 04 and say if it will do
22:35:21  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> if so, then we are ready for second phase
22:36:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> lets get it on
22:36:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> SLHs
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22:36:22  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Yeah!
22:36:25  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> at last
22:36:55  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> damn it's late... but now there is something to build... heh... i do wan't to go tomorow for classes...
22:37:01  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> I really do!
22:40:43  <CommieSi> u in uk?
22:41:05  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Any plans for SLHs?
22:41:14  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> just where you want them
22:41:22  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> or just where industries are and there is no SLH nearby
22:41:23  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but only on bysecting MLs
22:41:41  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> bysecting=
22:41:44  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ?
22:41:51  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> @dict bysecting
22:42:03  <Thorinbur> @dick bysecting
22:42:14  <KenjiE20> nice typo
22:42:16  <Thorinbur> @wiki bysecting
22:42:17  <gr00vy> @dict bysecting
22:42:19  <Webster> gr00vy: No definition for "bysecting" could be found in wn
22:42:20  <Webster> Search results for "bysecting" - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Special:Search?go=Go&search=bysecting
22:42:34  <gr00vy> hm
22:42:35  <gr00vy> nothing
22:42:36  <gr00vy> :D
22:42:47  <KenjiE20> yea, using booth's spelling's is never good
22:42:52  <KenjiE20> @wiki bisecting
22:42:54  <Webster> Search results for "bisecting" - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Special:Search?go=Go&search=bisecting
22:42:57  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ssssh
22:42:58  <KenjiE20> @dict bisecting
22:43:00  <Webster> KenjiE20: No definition for "bisecting" could be found in wn
22:43:05  * KenjiE20 rolls eyes
22:43:07  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol
22:43:14  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> bisecting
22:43:21  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> yeah asked google for it
22:43:39  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hm
22:43:40  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> ditto
22:43:42  <Chris_Booth> http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=5BV&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-GB%3Aofficial&q=define%3A+bisecting&btnG=Search&meta=&aq=f&oq=
22:43:43  <Webster> Title: define: bisecting - Google Search (at www.google.co.uk)
22:43:43  <Thorinbur> in geometry, dividing something into two equal parts
22:43:45  <KenjiE20> dict probably doesn't like -ing
22:43:51  <KenjiE20> @dict bisect
22:43:52  <Webster> KenjiE20: wn: bisect v : cut in half or cut in two; "bisect a line"
22:44:17  <Thorinbur> so you mean those LL_RR MLs
22:44:27  <Thorinbur> not outer LL
22:44:33  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yes
22:44:37  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> the biseting lines
22:44:46  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> bisecting
22:44:46  <Thorinbur> couldn't you say that?
22:44:50  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no
22:44:55  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> need to use big words
22:44:58  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> so any MLs between East and South BBHs
22:45:21  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> = BBHXa/b
22:45:30  <Thorinbur> hmmm what about some ind's that are out of the outer ring?
22:45:31  <Chris_Booth> yes
22:45:39  <Chris_Booth> you could read the plan you know to wokr this out
22:45:55  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> connect to closest SLH
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22:46:18  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> please read the plan to clear this up
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22:46:50  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> SLs go only on one-hand side of the ML?
22:47:04  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> because in the plan there would be no SL in between the to MLs
22:47:18  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> *two
22:47:33  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> in the square in between station A / B
22:47:38  <OwenS> gr00vy: What it means is that you don't connect the SL to both MLs
22:47:48  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> yeah sure
22:47:59  <OwenS> Because then trains use it as a shortcut and it gets clogged and aaaargh bad things :P
22:48:06  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> but any "square" surrounded by MLs should have a SL going through, right?
22:48:11  <OwenS> Yes
22:48:11  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> SLHs are only to be built between a BBHxa + BBHxb
22:48:15  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> not on outer ring
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22:48:20  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> yeah
22:48:25  <OwenS> Chris_Booth: I thought it was the other way round?
22:48:27  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ok, then i got it right :D
22:48:30  <OwenS> (Course, I haven't been in in a while)
22:48:44  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> its as i said it is Owen
22:48:45  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> each SL has transfer for Engineering/Farm suplies from there delivered by RVs to the primaries
22:49:07  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yes
22:49:08  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i ahave a fealling it is all around...
22:49:21  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i am 99% sure it isnt
22:49:22  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> oh
22:49:25  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ok
22:49:38  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Engineering suplies are accepted by primaries
22:49:43  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yes
22:49:46  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> didn't use to FIRS
22:49:52  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and so are farm supplies
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22:50:59  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> my god... it's still hell amount  of work left
22:51:15  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> so we should start, right? :)
22:51:42  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i hoped for simple: "Now we connect something, put some trains move on to the next one" - style
22:52:10  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> right lets go crazy on the SLHs
22:52:32  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> do we only start building the SLHs or whole SL already?
22:53:04  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> this FIRs thing is gonna get messy
22:53:18  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> SLH + SLs
22:53:23  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> you can now run trains on the MLs
22:54:12  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> what about whose SLHs alrady build on LL ML
22:54:15  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> is there an overview what buildings are primaries in FIRS?
22:54:28  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> i'm overwhelmed by the number of different industries
22:54:36  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> they are wrong
22:54:43  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and should be moved / removed
22:56:56  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> SLs only LR right?
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23:00:28  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> SL should be less busy than ML
23:00:38  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but some will endup looking like BBHs
23:00:40  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> trust me
23:00:41  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> k
23:00:48  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> so, anyone started building yet?
23:00:50  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but start small
23:00:59  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> nope i am just supervising
23:01:00  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> yeah
23:01:02  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i did
23:01:03  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> okay
23:01:10  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0002F836: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002F836.png
23:01:21  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hm do you stationwalk nearby farms for example?
23:01:33  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> like @ BBH04b
23:01:39  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> if its efficient yes
23:01:39  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> there are three mixed farms
23:01:44  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> that could use one station i think
23:02:05  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i agree
23:02:32  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ok, i would give it a try if it's okay for you guys
23:02:33  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ^
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23:05:40  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hm, Chris Booth, where would the sheep farm on  the other side of the ML be supposed to be connected...station walk to the other side?
23:05:43  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> waait...supply drops in areas then supplied by RV?
23:06:01  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> yeah thats what the plan said
23:06:06  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> jeeees
23:06:57  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> who is working on SLH03?
23:07:02  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> me
23:07:24  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> i think it is one of the SLHs that should be removed
23:07:30  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> because it's on outer ML
23:07:34  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> ah ok
23:07:43  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> plan suggests that inner ML only
23:07:50  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but dont quote me on it
23:07:53  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ask V tomoz
23:07:56  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> :)
23:08:15  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> just how V has signed it
23:08:17  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and drawn it
23:08:22  <Thorinbur> V. is somewhere around
23:08:53  <Thorinbur> V453000: Are SLH on outer ML acceptable?
23:08:58  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> is there one transfer for both, engineering and farm supplies?
23:09:05  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> or seperate?
23:09:10  <V453000> yes they are
23:09:15  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> see
23:09:21  <V453000> CB: not only
23:09:22  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Thanks V.
23:10:16  <Chris_Booth> V453000: i thought it was between BBHs only
23:10:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
23:10:22  <Chris_Booth> but thanks for clearing that up
23:10:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> possible everywhere
23:10:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> it would be barely possible to make enough SLHs there
23:10:47  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> would be more fun
23:10:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> I admit it is quite unclear there :)
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23:11:30  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> just addded to plan to illustrate that
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23:12:48  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> heh it is SO easier to build SLH on outer ML
23:13:02  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i regret i started mine on LL_RR
23:14:19  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> what is CL here? 3?
23:14:28  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yes
23:14:31  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> k
23:14:54  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i should have left the old MSH 04 in place as an SLH
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23:15:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> well there is the msh now
23:15:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> but true that it could go around :)
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23:16:12  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> soddig bridge length!
23:18:06  <CommieSi> that is really gonna bug me now
23:18:46  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> these hills are crazy when willing to keep TF low :)
23:19:03  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> at least i'm not creative enough :D
23:19:04  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> it seems
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23:23:50  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> why are RV stations greyed out?
23:24:31  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol no RVs?
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23:24:54  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> RVs but no staions
23:25:02  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> *stations
23:25:58  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> if sheep, mixed and dairy farm are near each other -> same station or seperate ones?
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23:26:18  <PublicServer> Giddorah_: bribed
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23:29:38  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> Chris Booth? V453000?
23:29:45  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> Thorinbur?
23:29:49  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ??
23:29:50  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yes
23:30:13  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> just shouting random names?
23:30:20  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> had asked about the station when diary, sheep and mixed farm are close to each other
23:30:26  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> seperate stations or one mixed?
23:30:45  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> 1 station for 1 cargo type picked up
23:31:00  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ok
23:31:10  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> so they can share livestock
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23:33:10  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i am off t'bed
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23:33:49  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> V.: look at BBH02a
23:41:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> wazzup there
23:41:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh
23:41:52  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> hmm proper way would be to merge at here 1
23:41:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> wtf is that
23:42:00  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> but ...
23:42:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> you cant merge BBH and SLH
23:42:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> that will make problems
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23:43:07  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> hey V, we do not have any access to RVs...
23:43:13  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> this could be a problem
23:43:33  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> cant bypas like that?
23:43:57  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Buuu that i thik i will blow this up and build SLH on LL ML :P
23:44:06  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> or leave it to someone else...
23:44:59  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> can i or cant bypass (of course with proper prios and so on)
23:46:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> access ti RVs?
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23:46:18  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> you cant build rv stations
23:46:27  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> thats the one
23:46:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> I can
23:46:41  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i am holding the triger to blow it up...
23:46:51  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> boom or not boom?
23:46:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> Thorinbur: not the bbh pls
23:46:57  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> for me it is grayed out
23:47:00  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> and for CommieSi
23:47:02  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> too
23:47:17  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> If i would blow up than Slh....
23:47:44  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> screw this
23:47:47  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> boom!
23:49:53  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and about RVs
23:50:05  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i also cannot access RV related building
23:50:06  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> s
23:50:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> I have no idea why
23:50:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> what exactly you cant build
23:50:40  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> any rv building
23:50:52  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> stations, one way and depot all grey ed out
23:51:06  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> also bulldozer
23:51:07  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> one way you can when you chose roaf
23:51:27  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> (no as in one way road markings)
23:51:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> Oo
23:51:45  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> but there is no way of activating depot nor stations
23:52:39  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> btw: same with ports...
23:52:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> no idea here
23:53:06  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> no shipyards nor ports
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23:53:53  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> I'm gonna call it a nite due to the various issues
23:54:02  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> V453000: have a look at SLH01 Livestock Pickup
23:54:03  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> + i'm tired
23:54:07  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> okay like that?
23:54:12  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> laters ppl
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23:54:18  <Thorinbur> !password
23:54:18  <PublicServer> Thorinbur: warmly
23:54:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> fine
23:54:34  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> CL2 at entry is ok though?
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23:54:43  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> for first track?
23:54:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
23:55:08  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> oh and i cant build  tram roads...
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23:55:24  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i mean tram tracks
23:55:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> that is normal
23:56:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> there is no tram set
23:56:18  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> but road stations is not normal
23:56:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> :/

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