Log for #openttdcoop on 11th March 2010:
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00:01:18  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0002BAA9:
00:01:36  <OwenS> @qdb
00:01:37  <Webster> #openttdcoop quotes: latest quotes -
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00:14:44  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> wow
00:14:57  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> there are 46 trains
00:15:21  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and half of them are just copies in TYs  depot
00:16:20  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0000ABD9:
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00:21:35  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ok
00:21:52  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> time to add some trains!
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00:24:56  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> V.: Can you found Glass Works ear MS3?
00:25:05  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Or i should do it?
00:26:10  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> V453000: Can you found GlassWorks near MS3? Or i should do it?
00:26:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> on it
00:27:03  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> great. Preparing to release first trains with sand
00:27:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> k
00:27:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> ready
00:28:33  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> sand got only one drop?
00:29:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes I think
00:30:21  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> long way around
00:30:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> see !!! CARGO BOARD
00:30:55  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> but hey it's offitial! We got first train running
00:31:15  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ok
00:31:22  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0000B5DC:
00:31:59  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> here you are
00:32:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> it will help us
00:32:02  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i lost here
00:32:10  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i lost him
00:32:13  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> rain
00:32:15  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ...
00:32:27  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i lost him. One train in so hudhe network
00:32:33  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ...
00:32:38  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i cant type..
00:32:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> Druham
00:32:48  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i know
00:32:59  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> it is already at the drop
00:33:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> i see
00:33:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> just dropd
00:33:19  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> almost empty cos i skipped order in this one
00:35:12  <V453000> :)
00:41:19  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> 3 more trains in the system :)
00:41:23  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> 6 total
00:43:06  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> why glassworks do not produce anything?
00:43:28  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> wait
00:43:29  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ok
00:43:32  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> it does
00:43:46  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> so why not put some packaging and part trains?
00:44:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> they do
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00:44:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh
00:44:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> sure why not
00:44:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> careful, packaging goes to many areas
00:44:54  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i know...
00:45:00  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> checking where exactly
00:45:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> pls check these out and write it on the cargo board
00:45:09  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ok
00:45:32  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i will make full list and then create orders for TY trains
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00:46:24  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0000BFC6:
00:53:26  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> General Store takes: Food and goods right?
00:53:40  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> got Polish version and want to be sure
00:55:26  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ohw big should supply transfer stations be?
00:55:29  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> *how
00:58:18  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Cement plant Also uses Sand!
00:58:37  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> Thorinbur: how big should supplies transfer stations be?
00:58:42  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> is two tracks enough?
00:58:45  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i don't know
00:58:57  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hm
00:59:01  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> V453000: still there?
00:59:07  <V453000> kind of
00:59:12  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> :)
00:59:17  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> read my question?
00:59:18  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> :)
00:59:26  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Cement plant also accepts sand
00:59:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> 2 shall suffice
00:59:47  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i think the sunner we create full list and example orders for trains in TY
00:59:49  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> the better
01:00:09  <V453000> the cargolist will help
01:00:31  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> it is incomplete
01:00:54  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> create Cement plant in the meantime
01:01:26  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0000B8CA:
01:01:27  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i will try to find other ind accepting packaging
01:03:52  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> i didn't follow - did you find any solution for RV stations?
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01:06:25  <gr00vy> !password
01:06:25  <PublicServer> gr00vy: racier
01:06:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> cement plant ready
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01:06:49  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hm still grey
01:06:50  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> :(
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01:07:55  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> I hope there is at least one of each ind on map
01:08:21  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> so packaging got 5 drops
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01:16:28  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0000BECA:
01:20:30  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> V453000: you said you're able to build RV buildings?
01:20:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> yea
01:20:49  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> would you mind building some for me?
01:20:51  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> SLH01
01:21:07  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> Punfingbridge
01:22:21  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> you need another for livestock and wool
01:23:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> well no :)
01:23:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is wrong
01:23:48  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> oh
01:23:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> you need drops for farms
01:23:50  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> lol
01:23:51  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> yeah
01:23:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> not for cargos
01:23:54  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> muahah
01:24:10  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> so one drop at livestock station should be enough
01:24:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> if it covers only one farm
01:24:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> each farm must have its own
01:24:29  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> no it covers all three in the end
01:24:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> that cannot
01:24:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> because only one will accept it
01:24:49  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ok
01:24:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> and the others will not
01:24:52  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hm
01:24:59  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> then it wasn too wrong
01:25:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> so you need to cover only one farm with each
01:25:11  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> because milk, fruit and wool station are seperate farms
01:25:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> pls build separate RV stations
01:25:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> you dont have to join them with the pickups
01:26:17  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> seems to be the shortest way anyway
01:26:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> sure
01:29:08  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> V453000: like this?
01:31:30  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0000A9D9:
01:32:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
01:33:11  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hm to less space for loop at dairy
01:33:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> np
01:33:26  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hm ok+
01:34:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> just walk it from there
01:34:16  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> couldn't you just merge it to the train station?
01:34:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
01:34:24  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> should be possible
01:34:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> why
01:34:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> you dont need to merge it
01:34:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> there is no reason for that
01:34:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> at least you can name the stations properly
01:35:06  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> doesnt make a difference to walk it to the farm directly or connect it to the station
01:35:07  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ok
01:35:13  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> thats an argument :)
01:35:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> this way is cleaner
01:36:11  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> how do you name it?
01:36:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> anyhow
01:36:20  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ok
01:36:24  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> should be ok then
01:36:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
01:38:06  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ok thank you
01:38:16  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> perhaps you could have a look at the stations
01:38:21  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> if everything's ok
01:38:27  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> i'll start building some trains then
01:38:49  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> watch for the cargo  list as it is unfinished
01:39:03  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i am sure only packaging is complete
01:40:44  <PeterT> !date
01:40:44  <PublicServer> PeterT: 11 May 2300
01:40:55  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> are there any depot centers already?
01:41:21  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> just build yourself small injection
01:41:26  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ok
01:43:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> ;)
01:46:32  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0002D16B:
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01:57:29  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> is CL 2 big problem at SL before station?
01:57:52  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> nah
01:58:26  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i am making both CL and single bridge
01:59:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
02:01:34  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0002D559:
02:05:28  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> Primaries drive back empty?
02:05:33  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> or are there any special orders?
02:09:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> back from drop empty
02:09:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> or?...
02:09:31  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> dont know if you have any other great ideas :D
02:09:38  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> because of the long distances
02:09:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> nono
02:10:00  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> so normal full load <-> drop all and leave empty orders?
02:10:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
02:10:11  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> fine
02:10:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> and if there are more drops, then just go back to the pickup and drop at the next drop ... and so on
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02:14:55  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol
02:15:02  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Hahahaha
02:15:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> ?
02:15:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> got insane?
02:15:23  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> New Diary and what can you see at the picture of new ind?
02:15:32  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> sign: Diary somewhere nearby
02:15:47  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ?
02:16:04  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> well above should be the meat packer or not?
02:16:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> whatswrong
02:16:17  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> its funny
02:16:28  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ah lol
02:16:33  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> i built the diary ;)
02:16:36  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 000346A2:
02:16:47  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ah...  that explains everything
02:16:48  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> you thought it just showed up?
02:16:50  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> :D
02:16:53  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ok
02:16:54  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> yeah
02:16:55  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ^^
02:16:58  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> heh....
02:17:03  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> that would have been great indeed
02:17:07  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> but V453000 is still ingame
02:17:16  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> when i was building MSH01
02:17:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes he is somewhere here
02:17:18  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> and you know of the split nature of V453000 and industries
02:17:23  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> that would be to easy
02:17:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
02:17:41  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i placed 2 signgs: Station 1 here
02:17:45  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Station 2 here
02:18:11  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and when i was back to finish it under both signs there were new industries...
02:18:24  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> one of them Exactly! at the sign
02:18:31  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and other two tiles of
02:22:12  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ok
02:22:20  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> 4 trains for every cargo for now
02:22:28  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> have to go to bed
02:22:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
02:22:44  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> if you want you can add the supply trains/rv's
02:22:50  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> that is missing for now
02:23:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> nah I am here just for chat mostly
02:23:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> got stuff 2 do
02:25:30  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> n8 guys
02:25:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> cya
02:25:36  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> night
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02:26:35  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> haha
02:26:38  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> finished!
02:26:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
02:27:01  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> how do you like it?
02:27:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
02:31:38  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0002CE27:
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02:47:19  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> added trains to my area
02:47:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> kk
02:47:44  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and added 5 trains to deliver packaging
02:49:13  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol...
02:49:58  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and those packs will go areud and around until they will reach destination with Existing! industry
02:52:38  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> 176 trains
02:52:56  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> at last something is moving
02:53:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> isnt it 74?
02:53:16  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol
02:53:21  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> psg 178
02:53:30  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> 1. i messed numbers
02:53:39  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> 2.  i remembered it wrong...
02:53:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> I see
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02:54:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> hey
02:54:18  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> hiya
02:54:24  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> wow - people actually playing at this hour?
02:54:31  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ^^
02:54:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
02:55:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> how do you like the progress Thraxian? :)
02:56:10  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> looking not too shabby
02:56:15  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> are we connecting primaries now?
02:56:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah
03:01:43  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0002D63C:
03:02:00  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> any construction currently happening?
03:02:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> not from me
03:02:17  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> well i am finishing roads
03:03:13  <PeterT> !password
03:03:13  <PublicServer> PeterT: peeved
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03:03:35  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ??
03:03:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> wtf
03:03:38  <PeterT> What
03:03:55  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> they're probably working on a bot that can place signs in-game
03:03:56  <PeterT> Sorry, leftover from testing before
03:04:03  <PeterT> No, Thraxian
03:04:08  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol
03:04:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> they are just making a bot to annoy people by joining and leaving ^^
03:04:58  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> then it sounds like I'm out of a job :)
03:05:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
03:05:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> you annoy people?
03:05:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> I thought that is Chris Booths job :D at least he said so
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03:05:41  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> I only annoy people with my comings and goings
03:05:53  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> but not with my staying
03:05:59  <PeterT> There, fixed
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03:06:19  <PeterT> !players
03:06:21  <PublicServer> PeterT: Client 1026 (Orange) is Thraxian, in company 1 (#openttdcoop PSG 178)
03:06:21  <PublicServer> PeterT: Client 1023 (Orange) is Thorinbur, in company 1 (#openttdcoop PSG 178)
03:06:21  <PublicServer> PeterT: Client 1029 is Peter, a spectator
03:06:21  <PublicServer> PeterT: Client 1017 (Orange) is V453000, in company 1 (#openttdcoop PSG 178)
03:06:39  <PeterT> There, I have now logged out of SSH
03:06:52  <PeterT> !revision
03:06:53  <PublicServer> PeterT: Game version is r19253
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03:09:36  <PeterT> Good night
03:10:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> I am off
03:10:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> cya folks
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03:12:11  <PeterT> It's a chain reaction
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03:29:56  <ra0ceq> Всем привет
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08:40:49  <Giddorah> G'morning :)
08:41:05  <Giddorah> Finally getting some help with my internet
08:41:11  <Giddorah> Might jump in and out alot today
08:43:19  <gr00vy> !password
08:43:19  <PublicServer> gr00vy: vaults
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08:51:13  <Giddorah> !password
08:51:13  <PublicServer> Giddorah: hinges
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08:51:57  <Giddorah> Does the password-list follow a pattern? Or is there some way to auto-login?
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08:52:26  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hi
08:52:31  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Howdy :)
08:53:49  <Giddorah> Hmmm... Trains are running with cargo but no industries to accept them?
08:54:06  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> forexample?
08:54:33  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Well... Brewery+Bakery
08:55:42  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Machine Shop's missing
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09:00:06  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hm, cant build brewery there
09:00:19  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Are we supposed to place industries?
09:00:40  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> as far as i know yes
09:01:02  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> otherwise it wouldnt have made many sense to place the stations already all over the map
09:01:11  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> without knowing where the industries will show up
09:01:40  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Hmmm
09:01:48  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0003DD2E:
09:01:48  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hmmm
09:01:50  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> What if Great Brunnford is considered a city?
09:01:53  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> it didn't let me... :(
09:02:04  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> :>
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09:02:50  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Nice :)
09:05:00  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ok
09:07:13  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Remember that the Brewery only have to be connected to Brewery Grain Delivery station
09:07:22  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> And bakery to Bakery Grain Delivery :)
09:07:53  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> and to brewery/bakery drop
09:07:58  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> because of fruit/vegetables
09:08:11  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> its just that grain trains have to get transfer order instead of unload
09:08:19  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Ah, aight
09:08:53  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> don't know where to get food to
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10:01:12  <CommieSi> !password
10:01:13  <PublicServer> CommieSi: smocks
10:01:19  <CommieSi> smocks
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10:01:36  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> morning guys
10:01:56  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0001FD59:
10:01:56  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hiho
10:03:08  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> just seen sum1 has plopped industries at me sation :-)
10:03:15  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> where?
10:03:24  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> ML04
10:03:28  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hm yeah
10:04:20  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> shame that  plastics plant was put there...
10:04:51  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> perhaps it showed up all alone?
10:04:57  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> there shouldn't be one anyway
10:05:11  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> should be @ 03
10:05:36  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> so just ignore it :D
10:06:00  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> what you're doing?
10:06:11  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> station walking to gake sure the drop works
10:06:23  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> for which industry?
10:06:49  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> ewrm
10:06:50  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> CommieSi: Why not use CTRL+ Build Station? :)
10:07:02  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> i keep meaning to, just never di
10:07:06  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> it'll come in time
10:07:34  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> and i just realised my biiig mistake
10:07:48  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> Plastics plan was just created no1 added it i think
10:07:53  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> yeah
10:07:59  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> it is not used @ 04
10:08:05  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> is supposed to be @ 03
10:08:50  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> I'll drop the  paper mill in there then
10:08:53  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> get it sorted
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10:11:06  <jondisti> !password
10:11:06  <PublicServer> jondisti: outran
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10:11:22  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> hello
10:11:29  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> morning
10:11:38  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hi jond1sti
10:12:14  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> wohoo trains
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10:12:25  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> yup
10:12:41  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> MS04 is complete
10:12:58  <Drunkzilla> hi
10:13:05  <Drunkzilla> !password
10:13:05  <PublicServer> Drunkzilla: outran
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10:13:36  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> someone can tell me where sawmill and aluminium plant should go @ MSH07?
10:13:58  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> V453000 only built stations for metal foundry and raffinery
10:14:18  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Thorinbur Area?
10:14:30  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> you se there are 1 MSHs
10:14:31  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> 2
10:14:33  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> :P
10:14:40  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> oh lol :D
10:15:00  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> should be MSH07B
10:15:05  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> A already existes
10:15:09  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> yes
10:15:14  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ok
10:15:15  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> :D
10:15:16  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> thx
10:16:28  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> we do still seem to have the issue with RVs
10:16:42  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> V453000 was able to built them
10:16:45  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> i'm not
10:16:49  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> why issue?
10:16:55  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> cant build RV buildings
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10:17:05  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> only streets/bridges
10:17:16  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> you mean depot?
10:17:20  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> yeah any of them
10:17:25  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> i can
10:17:30  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I can't
10:17:32  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> no "vehicle-producing" stations
10:17:37  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hm
10:17:47  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> No Depot, no stations and not one-way roads
10:18:31  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> Yea we know some people can
10:18:40  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> trying to work out why others cannot
10:18:45  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> is game giving error message or what?
10:18:54  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Buttons are just greyed out
10:18:57  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> nope just greyed out boxes
10:19:34  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> might be a bug of some king
10:19:56  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I think it's a queen-bug
10:20:08  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> advanced settings->interface->"show building tools when no suitable vehicles are available"
10:20:11  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> do you have that set as
10:20:14  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> 'on'?
10:20:43  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> :-P
10:20:44  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> heh i meant kind, not king :P
10:20:50  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> why thankyou!
10:21:09  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> you can now?
10:21:19  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> yea
10:21:20  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> yeah worked
10:21:21  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> thx
10:21:42  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> but its definitely a bug since there are vehicles available
10:21:56  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> possibly not
10:22:06  <PublicServer> <Drunkzilla> I see a deadlock
10:22:13  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> as technically there are no suitable vehicles
10:22:24  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Deadlock?
10:22:25  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> CommieSi: hows that?
10:22:33  <PublicServer> <Drunkzilla> Station: Punfingbridge Waste
10:22:38  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> it is the default vehicles
10:22:43  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> but this is FIRs
10:22:50  <PublicServer> <Drunkzilla> Not sure if deadlock is correct word.. but ... dunno :)
10:23:02  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> so none of the industries can be serviced by RVs anyway
10:23:28  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> no waut i am being v v dumb
10:23:35  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> ignore the rambling s
10:23:58  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> 'too many vehicles in game'
10:24:03  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> That's weird
10:24:11  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> someone set limit to 0
10:24:12  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> It shouldn't deadlock... Should it?
10:24:23  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oh
10:24:23  <PublicServer> <Drunkzilla> one piece of rail is missing
10:24:34  <PublicServer> <Drunkzilla> yeah..
10:24:37  <PublicServer> <Drunkzilla> now its ok
10:25:13  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> re
10:25:16  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> what did i forget there?
10:25:23  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> just noticed you fixed something
10:25:34  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> piece of track missing?
10:25:35  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> That piece of track
10:25:41  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ok great
10:25:41  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> thx
10:25:45  <PublicServer> <Drunkzilla> np :)
10:25:56  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> 2 people for such a masterpiece of fixing :D
10:26:02  <PublicServer> <Drunkzilla> :D
10:26:11  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ridiculous
10:26:12  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Can't really take all credit for all that work :)
10:26:13  <PublicServer> <Drunkzilla> Took us whole night of thinking :d
10:26:20  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> yeah
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10:27:25  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> are we already producing farm supplies somewhere?
10:27:58  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> we have industries and stations but no trains using it :(
10:29:22  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> trains' orders @ trainyard need updating
10:30:23  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> is there a shortcut for street multitool?
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10:30:31  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> like for the train tracks?
10:30:46  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> haven't found one
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10:32:23  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Dunno any shortcut
10:32:33  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Ctrl+Auto-road works for removing them though
10:32:44  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> So you don't have to change tools that often
10:33:20  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> And you know the terraforming-tools right?
10:33:33  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Q-W-E
10:34:07  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> year train ones are clear i think
10:34:08  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> hhmm we need to place a machine shop
10:34:09  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> at least for me :D
10:35:27  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> What about general store?
10:37:17  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hm who can fix too many vehicle problem? :)
10:37:27  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> a member
10:37:28  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> We got too many vehicles??!
10:37:41  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> yes, at least RVs
10:37:44  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> We only got like 105
10:37:46  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oh
10:37:48  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I see
10:38:00  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> allowed: 0 :D
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10:44:03  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> jond1sti wahts with you farm supplies?
10:44:14  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> i need some too :D
10:44:31  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> although they don't help anyway as long as we don't have RVs
10:45:04  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> CommieSi: no farm supplies before we have fuel oil, chemicals and goods :P
10:45:37  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> who was building alu trains?
10:46:01  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> they are still waiting at depot
10:46:02  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> :D
10:46:19  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> me for a second
10:46:33  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> should i start them?
10:46:38  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> they have orders already
10:46:41  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> seem to be ready to go
10:47:02  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0002CAA6:
10:47:42  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> i let them go...trains 98 + 191
10:47:43  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> 101
10:48:03  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> just checking, just one Machine shop for the whole map?
10:50:58  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> @jonnd1sti, is there a reason for your Farm Supply Pickup station?
10:51:40  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> how are we handling primaries that have 2 drops?
10:51:47  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> like wood (papermill + sawmill)
10:51:58  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> orders like load -> sec1 -> load ->sec2?
10:52:06  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> 1. go pickup 2. go drop #1 3. go pickup 4. go drop #2
10:52:14  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ok
10:52:47  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> i'm updating trainyard trains' orders as i am adding new ones
10:53:22  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> i've just updated alu trains
10:53:40  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> also is the alu train too long?
10:53:45  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> remember to add 'unload and leave empty' for drop order
10:53:56  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> (done)
10:54:05  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> check the pickup
10:54:11  <^Spike^> !info
10:54:11  <PublicServer> ^Spike^: #:1(Orange) Company Name: '#openttdcoop PSG 178'  Year Founded: 1970  Money: 3896974299  Loan: 0  Value: 3929243755  (T:110, R:0, P:8, S:0) unprotected
10:54:30  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> pickup?
10:54:39  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> aluminium pickup
10:54:46  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> the trains seem too long
10:54:47  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> hmm
10:54:56  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> 3large + 1 small
10:54:58  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> ?
10:55:32  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> fixed :)
10:55:41  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> order was 'near end' not 'far end'
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10:55:48  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> so it wasn't a problem
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10:55:56  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> ahhh
10:56:03  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> just "looks" too long
10:56:15  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> looks it's not using whole platform
10:57:12  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> i hope we could remove voting board :P
10:57:49  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> hahah, theres no bauxite mines
10:58:08  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> so let's prospect a few
10:58:55  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> oh
10:58:58  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> jond1sti: did you fix orders @ trainyard?
10:59:11  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> not all
10:59:19  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> just a few actually
10:59:20  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> what orders do give them?
10:59:22  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> just none?
10:59:33  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> drop order
10:59:34  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> or orders containg the drops
10:59:35  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ?
10:59:39  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ok
10:59:48  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> especially the ones that have multiple
11:00:43  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> like that? look at wood train
11:01:19  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> like that
11:01:43  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ah ok
11:01:55  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Hmmm
11:01:58  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> wasnt sure wether adding pickups for primaries is doing that much sense :D
11:02:04  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0002E391:
11:02:10  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Should I start the grainsplitter at brewery/bakery?
11:02:26  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> is grain arriving?
11:02:31  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yes ma'am
11:02:33  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> yes
11:02:41  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> well then start it
11:02:42  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> :D
11:02:47  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Started :)
11:03:06  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> where is food and goods supposed to be brought to?
11:03:13  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Wonder how I have NEVER thought of that idea before? (The splitter)
11:03:35  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Hmmm... Game laggy for anyone else?
11:03:40  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> sometimes
11:03:41  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> station named 'food & goods drop'
11:03:42  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> but not too often
11:03:46  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> oh lol :D
11:03:55  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> tooooo easy to think of :D
11:04:00  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> and actually farm supply depot needs goods too
11:05:10  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> so i build some food pickup trains for brewery/bakery
11:05:27  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> ok
11:05:49  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Isn't there a way to see loading-status even though visibility is turned down?
11:05:54  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> maybe double orders for them by now and maybe there could be 2 groups of goods trains later
11:06:11  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> Giddorah: click on train and then on "information" or "capacity" button
11:06:24  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> there you should see what is actually loaded
11:06:43  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Thanks... :P
11:06:47  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I meant the %-graph :P
11:06:55  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hm...
11:07:03  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> just enable the setting? :)
11:07:12  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Wont show if visibility is turned off
11:07:18  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> X-button
11:07:25  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> visibility of what?
11:07:34  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Items? :D
11:07:57  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hm
11:07:58  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> no idea :D
11:08:24  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> Food & Goods Drop is final station or transfer?
11:08:40  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Everything but grain is final
11:08:44  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ok
11:11:48  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> from now on the supply transfer stations are named: " SL?? Supply transfer"
11:11:55  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> notice the space in beginning
11:12:01  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ok
11:12:18  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Any order on the numbers or just grab them as they are available?
11:12:59  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> same as SLH
11:13:04  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> we need more grain :D
11:13:09  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> bakery is not doing anything
11:13:15  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ^
11:14:07  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> i can't even find bakery
11:14:15  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> now
11:14:16  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> brewerey
11:14:19  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> is nearby
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11:17:56  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> do trainyard trains share orders with trains that only go between two secondarys?
11:18:04  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> yes
11:18:05  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> for example b+b <-> food drop
11:18:25  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> k
11:18:29  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> we do need 2 types of farm supply trains
11:18:38  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> since there are 2 pickups
11:19:14  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> well have to leave
11:19:16  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> cya later
11:19:19  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> bye
11:19:20  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hf
11:20:29  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hm jond1sti
11:20:38  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> look at SL01 Supply Transfer
11:21:09  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> how is Punfingbridge Scrapmetal / Waste supposed to get supplies?
11:21:16  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> by RV never the less?
11:21:23  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> because of the distance i'm asking
11:21:36  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> or train-based feeder?
11:22:17  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> that's up to V but i guess it doesn't matter even it was a TL2 train or something..
11:22:32  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> yeah thats what i think
11:22:37  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ill ask him later
11:23:34  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ok so now bye :D
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11:57:39  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> scrap metal trains' orders need updating
12:01:33  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> so what do you listen to whilst playing?
12:01:42  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> silence
12:01:59  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> no music at all?
12:02:13  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00001FD8:
12:02:20  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> yep
12:03:08  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> fair nuff
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12:07:32  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> we need some oil connected too
12:07:54  <Thorinbur> comming for help!
12:07:59  <Thorinbur> !passsword
12:08:03  <Thorinbur> !password
12:08:03  <PublicServer> Thorinbur: hobbit
12:08:21  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> wohoo
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12:09:08  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> damn... still acnt build RVs
12:09:30  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> i'm off for now
12:09:31  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> bye
12:09:35  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> laters
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12:09:45  <gr00vy> !password
12:09:45  <PublicServer> gr00vy: hobbit
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12:10:01  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> re
12:11:46  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> why do you add "non-stop" to orders for scrap-metal trains for example?
12:12:20  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> non-stop means that if there is another station on the way train would pass it without stopping
12:12:27  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> it is somewhere on wiki
12:12:34  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> just stops it from stopping at an unintened station
12:12:48  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> exactly
12:13:04  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and simce stations are sometimes used as panelty...
12:13:15  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> so we should use it for any trains here?
12:13:16  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> you can set in advanced settings
12:13:18  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> or when a train gets lost :-s
12:13:29  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> so every new order would be non-stop by defoult
12:13:56  <KenjiE20> @quickstart
12:13:58  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki -
12:14:00  <KenjiE20> ^ should be in there
12:14:05  <Ammler> or you could read our guides...
12:14:12  <KenjiE20> :D
12:14:14  <Ammler> yeah, :-P
12:14:32  <Ammler> iirc, it is bold...
12:14:50  <Ammler> !rules
12:14:50  <PublicServer> Ammler:
12:16:20  <Thorinbur> KenjiE20: Why noone except V, van build buildings for RVs?
12:16:30  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> we can
12:16:50  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> you just have to enable the option that buildings are available even if no vehicles are available for it
12:17:05  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> it's because no vehicles are allowed -> RV setting = 0
12:17:11  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> max vehicles
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12:17:32  <KenjiE20> ^ what he said
12:17:36  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> would be great if someone was possible to change that
12:18:10  <gr00vy> in the game max road vehicles is set to = 0
12:18:14  <Thorinbur> hmm... i was thinking about that, but didn't expect serer limit will grey-out button too
12:18:28  <KenjiE20> Thorinbur: read what he said
12:18:33  <KenjiE20> it's an option you can toggle
12:18:37  <gr00vy> could any of you fix that?
12:18:49  <KenjiE20> !rcon set max_roadveh 100
12:18:49  <gr00vy> as RV buildings without vehicles are lame
12:18:49  <Thorinbur> We need RVs KenjiE20, so could you set limit a little higher?
12:18:49  <gr00vy> :>
12:18:57  <gr00vy> thx
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12:22:49  <KenjiE20> !playercount
12:22:49  <PublicServer> KenjiE20: Number of players: 5
12:22:53  <KenjiE20> hm
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12:57:24  <Giddorah_> !password
12:57:24  <PublicServer> Giddorah_: oddity
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12:58:26  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Oel ngati kameie Giddorah
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13:00:51  <ziza> !password
13:00:51  <PublicServer> ziza: oddity
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13:10:02  <Pirate87> !screen
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13:10:27  <dih> @sean timm*
13:10:30  <dih> @seen timm*
13:10:30  <Webster> dih: Timmaexx was last seen in #openttdcoop 4 days, 14 hours, 11 minutes, and 45 seconds ago: <Timmaexx> the transrapid
13:10:40  <dih> gnah
13:10:43  <dih> hello ladies :-P
13:10:59  <Pirate87> !password
13:10:59  <PublicServer> Pirate87: pantry
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13:11:20  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol
13:11:23  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Pirate...
13:11:32  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> heh
13:11:54  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> hi
13:11:57  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> hi
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13:12:24  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> i see we have some trains
13:16:07  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Bridges to Flarnpool aren't split... Does it matter much?
13:16:32  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> At SLH03
13:17:23  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0003359E:
13:17:27  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> not much
13:17:39  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> but i try to double them when i can
13:17:40  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> do we have only one food drop ?
13:18:03  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> hmmm not sure
13:18:35  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> looks like it
13:18:53  <V453000> yes one food drop only
13:18:56  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> nope
13:19:02  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> no!
13:19:06  <V453000> lol?
13:19:08  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> General Store
13:19:10  <V453000> B and?
13:19:15  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> so A
13:19:19  <V453000> no
13:19:26  <V453000> Brewery produces food
13:19:30  <V453000> along with bakery
13:19:36  <V453000> only the town there accepts food
13:19:43  <V453000> B only
13:20:01  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> B is brewery and Bakery
13:20:21  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> it Produces food!
13:20:25  <V453000> ok vice versa
13:20:35  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> so B is not a dorp
13:20:38  <V453000> OMG
13:20:40  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> A only
13:20:44  <V453000> good
13:21:02  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ok
13:21:04  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ...
13:21:09  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> B General Store
13:21:20  <V453000> loll :)
13:21:27  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Sorry thought general store was
13:21:28  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> A
13:21:58  <V453000> well it doensnt matter in the end
13:22:02  <V453000> one food drop. period
13:22:08  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Wait
13:22:14  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Commie is here
13:22:29  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> ?
13:22:34  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> yea
13:22:41  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oh haha
13:22:48  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Noticed u were online
13:23:20  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> hey!
13:23:25  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> we have RV!
13:23:32  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Nice :)
13:23:55  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Yet another SLH Done
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13:32:07  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol... i think cat's like technology. in the past they were sleeping behing furnances.
13:32:25  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00032C9B:
13:32:35  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> now my cat is sleeping near my laptop where there is exhaust of graphic card...
13:32:56  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> your laptop gets warm plaing OpenTTD ?
13:33:05  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> not that warm
13:33:13  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> not hot
13:33:33  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> maybe you should clean it
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13:33:42  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> it's normal
13:33:49  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> it will always produce heat
13:34:28  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> did it always get a little hot ? even when it was new ?
13:34:37  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> because then it's normal
13:34:54  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> otherwise u should consider cleaning the radiator
13:34:59  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> it doesnt need cleaning
13:35:03  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> trust me
13:35:11  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> ok
13:36:27  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> At last...
13:36:41  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> what ?
13:36:59  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> SLH06 and nearby industries
13:37:04  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i finished west part
13:37:23  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> whatever i did i always lacked one tile
13:37:40  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> ain't that a bitch :)
13:38:00  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> exactly
13:39:54  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> now i have to check my GC temp as my cat partially clogged exhaust...
13:40:45  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> i had a cat who liked sleeping behind my pc
13:40:57  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> or on top of it :)
13:41:07  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> on on CRT:P
13:41:25  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> now with all those LCDs cat's are poor :P
13:41:38  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> everything becames so small you can't climb on it!
13:42:45  <KenjiE20> Thorinbur: I bet it does
13:43:00  <KenjiE20> I always find dog hairs on the fan spindles
13:43:06  <KenjiE20> lord knows how they got there
13:43:21  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> from the air i suppose
13:43:33  <CommieSi> i have to dust mine out once every 3months or so
13:43:57  <CommieSi> apparaently stockings over the fan make a good filter
13:44:16  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> Giddorah: can i build a SL near your 'Testing Grounds' ?
13:44:47  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Aight... It's funny how looks and brains aren't connected most of the time :)
13:44:57  <KenjiE20> I'd have to put the entire laptop in one
13:44:59  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Me and my girlfriend laughed about someone on TV not knowing who Nelson Mandela is
13:44:59  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> heh... cats ear now covers part of the chat...
13:45:09  <KenjiE20> there's no real intake on it
13:45:10  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> And I saw her laughing but being a bit unsure herself
13:45:17  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> So I asked: You do know who Nelson Mandela is, right?
13:45:28  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> And she responds: Yeah! That Indian dude right?
13:45:36  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> And I thought for a while: Mahatma Ghandi?
13:45:41  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> And she says: Maybe not
13:45:53  <KenjiE20> -_-
13:46:24  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> The whole situation is just hilarious :) Writing it in text doesn't do it justice :P
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13:47:32  <Chris_Booth> have you 3 been to bed?
13:47:40  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Who?
13:47:53  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> I was
13:48:13  <Chris_Booth> CommieSi, Thorinbur and who else was on when i loged off
13:48:21  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> V.
13:48:25  <Chris_Booth> grooy wanst it
13:48:34  <Chris_Booth> ooh and V
13:48:36  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> lol yea
13:48:39  <Chris_Booth> but V isnt here
13:49:12  <Chris_Booth> !info
13:49:12  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: #:1(Orange) Company Name: '#openttdcoop PSG 178'  Year Founded: 1970  Money: 3967214202  Loan: 0  Value: 4005701085  (T:172, R:19, P:8, S:0) unprotected
13:49:57  <V453000> whats going on?
13:50:19  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> ?
13:50:24  <V453000> nvm
13:50:24  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ^^
13:50:29  <Chris_Booth> we are conspireing to kill you V
13:50:35  <V453000> okay
13:50:38  <V453000> agreed
13:51:05  <Chris_Booth> tell me the typing V doesnt highlioght you
13:51:10  <V453000> I hope the instrument will be either alcohol overload or music volume destruction
13:51:21  <V453000> sure it doesnt
13:51:38  <Chris_Booth> !password
13:51:38  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: nobler
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13:51:54  <V453000> noobler? :)
13:52:23  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> i hate u guys for those slow bridges
13:52:29  <Chris_Booth> no I am noble
13:52:32  <V453000> :D
13:52:42  <Chris_Booth> and i am more noble than the last person to join
13:52:47  <Chris_Booth> so I am nobler
13:52:55  *** KenjiE20 sets mode: +b *!*Emzzzz*@*
13:53:07  <V453000> emzz? :D
13:53:15  <KenjiE20> #openttd
13:53:54  <KenjiE20> oh you're not there
13:53:58  <KenjiE20> spambot
13:54:05  <Chris_Booth> aah i see
13:54:21  <Chris_Booth> i left openttd channel as i never spoke in it
13:54:34  <Chris_Booth> and was jut one of those annoying people that sat there allday
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13:54:42  <KenjiE20> I was refering to V, but whatever
13:54:50  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> yeah!
13:54:54  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> prio works!
13:54:54  <V453000> ? :D
13:55:04  <KenjiE20> @V453000 | emzz? :D
13:55:07  <KenjiE20> that
13:55:18  <V453000> is that a nick or .. ?
13:55:19  <V453000> :)
13:55:29  <V453000> in Czech we call so UFO and aliens :D
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14:01:04  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> this game is going to be screwed later on
14:01:17  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> why?
14:01:33  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> trains slow to 190km/h on a 1 tile climb
14:01:55  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> we have some very steep climbs where trains slow to arround 150 km/h
14:02:01  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> that will cause jams
14:02:14  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> unless you guys start to build crawler lanes
14:02:29  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0003452A:
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14:06:07  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> You said you need oil so Rafinery won't die
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14:09:04  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> Chris Booth: guess we'll have too
14:09:10  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> *to
14:09:21  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i think we will
14:09:30  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> or have massivly wide network
14:09:44  <Thorinbur> @wiki crawler
14:09:46  <Webster> Search results for "crawler" - #openttdcoop Wiki -
14:10:02  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> this only apllies to full trains
14:10:09  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> Thorinbur: there will not be a wiki on crawler lanes
14:10:17  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> we have never used them befor
14:10:17  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> hmm...what create bauxite in this set?
14:10:18  <Thorinbur> No examples on wiki
14:10:19  <KenjiE20> @wikipedia "crawler lane"
14:10:20  <Webster> Climbing lane - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia -
14:10:25  <KenjiE20> :)
14:12:06  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> hmmm so additional line or some kind of serpentine?
14:12:15  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> additional line
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14:12:43  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> only on up hill sections
14:12:51  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> they would need to be synced
14:12:56  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> oh my god...
14:13:07  <PublicServer> *** CommieSi has left the game (connection lost)
14:13:25  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> hmmm on the other hand...
14:13:27  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and split 5 tiles befor the climb
14:13:38  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and then merge when trains reach fullspeed again
14:13:50  <CommieSi> !password
14:13:50  <PublicServer> CommieSi: panged
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14:16:28  <CommieSi> Guys, why is there no bauxite mine in this set we're using?
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14:19:06  <V453000> comieSi: firs is still under development and this is quite old version
14:19:44  <CommieSi> oh dear
14:20:24  <CommieSi> as we kind of need it
14:20:47  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> added first goods trains ^^
14:20:56  <CommieSi> but we'll just have to do with deeing the alu plant with scrap metal
14:21:09  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> added first oil train
14:21:26  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> hate OTTD...
14:21:35  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Wastes so much of my precious time
14:21:48  <V453000> lol
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14:22:36  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> Thorinbur: there are 2 drops for goods
14:22:52  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> where else?
14:23:10  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> fert.plant + fsd drop
14:23:18  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> there is only one on the cargo board...
14:24:04  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> there reads 'if cargo isnt here then add it'
14:24:30  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> not so easy to find all drops
14:24:35  <Giddorah> !password
14:24:35  <PublicServer> Giddorah: fifths
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14:25:57  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ok i see you changed orders already
14:26:01  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> yes
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14:33:18  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> hmmm
14:38:40  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol...
14:40:48  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol...
14:40:53  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> you drowned it
14:40:54  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> what just happened to the steel mill....
14:41:34  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> i drowned it
14:42:21  <V453000> lol
14:42:28  <V453000> you drowned an industry? :D
14:42:38  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> not me
14:42:43  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> don't know who:P
14:42:46  <V453000> I see it
14:42:51  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> it was too far from drop :(
14:42:52  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> where ?
14:43:02  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> but now we're happy with the new one
14:43:17  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> ok inbound coal to that now
14:43:36  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> my...
14:43:45  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> exactly at my sign...
14:43:53  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> stupid stupid factory
14:45:10  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i have an idea for OTTD: Setting where you set what ind can spawn (primaries, secondaries, both, none)
14:45:49  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> I am now playing interesting single player game:
14:46:01  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> I started with NO industries
14:46:22  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> than i fast forwarded to first secondry spawn
14:46:53  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and connected poping primaries
14:47:12  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> now we have steel trains running
14:47:16  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> when second secondary of the same type spawned
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14:47:22  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i magic buldozed it
14:47:35  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00031836:
14:47:53  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> when i get bored i spawn lacking primary via searching
14:48:14  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> got really nice layout already
14:48:29  <V453000> :)
14:48:32  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> some lanes became MLs,
14:48:43  <V453000> care to share some of your savegames? :)
14:48:46  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> actually how many industries we have producing goods?
14:48:56  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> this is hmmm... Back to the roots gametype?
14:49:04  <V453000> any
14:49:11  <KenjiE20> thor no
14:49:16  <gr00vy> you should fine some help on i think
14:49:18  <Webster> Title: TT Foundry: Pixel Creations for Open Transport Tycoon (at
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14:49:33  <KenjiE20> @b2b this isn't
14:49:33  <Webster> KenjiE20: (b2b <no arguments>) -- Returns full name and reference url (if defined)
14:49:35  <gr00vy> @ Thorinbur
14:49:38  <KenjiE20> bleh
14:49:40  <KenjiE20> @b2b
14:49:40  <Webster> b2b: Back To Basics gamestyle, see also:
14:49:52  <jondisti> which economy this is?
14:50:04  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Yeah thats what i was looking for, Back to Basics
14:50:04  <Chris_Booth> standard
14:50:29  <Chris_Booth> jondisti: no parms loaded
14:50:55  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i will post save somewhere on my wiki page later
14:51:15  <V453000> k I will check
14:51:19  <V453000> always interested :)
14:51:48  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I've got some savegames too :)
14:52:11  <V453000> I am interested in everyone
14:52:15  <KenjiE20> Thorinbur: <-- that way you don't have to whine at an admin for removal
14:52:16  <Webster> Title: Dropbox - You're invited to join Dropbox! - Online backup, file sync and sharing made easy. (at
14:53:11  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> we need a lot of trains for engineering supplies
14:53:49  <Thorinbur> hmmm.. I wanted to past it on my shared server, and post only link on viki
14:53:52  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> I am going to prospect some iron ore as we have one in a aterrible place
14:54:06  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> i'm off again for a while
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14:56:58  <KenjiE20> that would work
14:57:07  <KenjiE20> @thor
14:57:12  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Train running costs are still higher than income :P
14:57:46  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> does supplying engineering /farm supplies increase output?
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15:02:37  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0003483B:
15:02:58  <Ammler> something bad about dropbox, no KDE support
15:03:20  <Ammler> or no suse and no src.rpm
15:03:50  <Ammler> but the idea is nice
15:04:09  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> Is anyone worling on SL08?
15:04:46  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> yes they are
15:06:05  <Ammler> KenjiE20: at least you get another 250 MB ;-)
15:06:14  <KenjiE20> heh
15:06:38  <KenjiE20> you can use the command line on though
15:06:51  <KenjiE20> there's a whole slew of user tricks in the wiki
15:09:19  <Ammler> well, I have my webspace, was just wondering...
15:09:57  <Thorinbur>
15:10:04  <Thorinbur>
15:10:05  <Webster> Title: Index of /OTTD/Saves (at
15:10:09  <Thorinbur> for now
15:10:15  <Thorinbur> This is that game
15:10:22  <Thorinbur> I will link it on wiki later
15:11:16  <Ammler> he, it does automatically detect timezone: US Alaska :-o
15:11:19  <Thorinbur> Still very early stage, but i like how naturally Secondaries spreded and hills created great tracks layout
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15:15:43  <PublicServer> Thorinbur: pigpen
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15:17:40  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 000257AE:
15:19:29  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> wooah who started builidng by me..
15:19:33  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> me
15:19:46  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i am the one who placed feel free to finish :P
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15:19:54  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> :-)
15:20:01  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> just connecting iron ore mine
15:20:36  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> if some track is making problems -> remove:P
15:21:29  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> i want to nuke dronding hall but will resist
15:22:01  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> try now
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15:22:17  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> leave it i'll build round
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15:22:49  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i was just enabling city building demolishing:P
15:23:01  <jondisti> V453000: we have 3 pickups for goods and 2 places accepting them. how to order trains?
15:23:43  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i think each pickup got own fleet witch drops to both drops
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15:25:01  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Do we build statues in cities? (a)
15:25:08  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> no
15:25:22  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> they are undemolshable :P
15:25:40  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> want to bride city council:
15:25:51  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> demolish nearby treas and replant them
15:25:56  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Well... They make the stations more efficient? :)
15:25:57  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> *trees
15:26:16  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> statues?
15:26:25  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Thor: Yes
15:26:38  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> first time hearing that
15:26:53  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> That way you can get stations to 100% (atleast 99%) raitng
15:26:56  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> rating
15:27:37  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> Giddorah: ratings aren't that important
15:27:44  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oh?
15:27:55  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Thought they had big effects on industry production?
15:28:26  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> might be but main thing is to get nice network here :)
15:28:45  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> do we have some enginnering suplies prodused already?
15:29:02  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> *produced
15:29:22  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> yes
15:29:31  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> how do we connect them?
15:29:48  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> we make 2-3 trains for each area and send to pickup?
15:29:55  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> nope
15:30:07  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> (this would flood pickup
15:30:08  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> 1 group of trains
15:31:13  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> or add our area to order list
15:31:14  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> of existing trains
15:31:14  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> i think FIRs doesn't work by just chucking a plan at it :-P
15:31:35  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ??
15:31:54  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> why Farm suplies trains doesn't have Full Load order?
15:32:02  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> first we need to find out  how many main industries need engineering supplies
15:32:21  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> you mean secondaries?
15:32:24  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> yes
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15:32:51  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> so maybe create two groups?
15:33:06  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> for secondaries, and primaries transfers
15:33:28  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> i think 1 would be enough
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15:33:44  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> because we have 1 pickup
15:35:04  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i don't know: My idea is: You created a area, got nice transfer station for supplies: go to the Farm/Engineering suplies group and add your new transfer station at the end of the orders list
15:35:23  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> yes
15:35:40  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> so why not full load?
15:35:49  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Aight... 1 up 1 flat doesn't work on loaded trains
15:35:56  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> who said not full load?
15:35:57  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> If you hadn't already noticed
15:36:01  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ....
15:36:06  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> look back at irc
15:36:29  <Thorinbur> why Farm suplies trains doesn't have Full Load order?
15:36:33  <Thorinbur> <jond1sti> first we need to find out  how many main industries need engineering supplies
15:36:41  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> that wasn't answer to your question :P
15:36:59  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol...
15:37:07  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> so no full load is a mistake
15:37:13  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> as i thought
15:37:14  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> yes
15:37:33  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> we need also two groups of farm supplies
15:37:51  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> one for primaries, one for secondaries?
15:38:12  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> we have 2 different industries producing them
15:38:20  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> oh
15:39:20  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> ok... msh07b doesn't need engineering supplies
15:40:12  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Hmmm... Is positive income something you want to achieve?
15:40:13  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> neither MSH05
15:40:26  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> Giddorah: depends who you ask
15:40:33  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> You?
15:40:36  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> i don't care about that :P
15:40:39  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Aight :)
15:40:52  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> i think money in this game is totally irrelevant
15:40:57  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> We've put ourselves against the wall here as FIRs encourages gradual growth
15:41:03  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Would be fun to stop all airline-traffic once train-building starts and try to make the company not go bankrupt :)
15:42:50  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> So... Do we rebuild to fix all climb-issues?
15:43:01  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> how bad is it?
15:43:16  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> 140km/h full load train
15:43:32  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> So atleast rebuild climbs where trains are loaded
15:43:59  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Well... If that matters :) I assume trains are gonna start stockpiling at climbs and start a deadlock
15:44:37  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> i'm trying to figure out how to distribute engineering supplies...
15:44:54  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I'll be back in a sec... Gotto go pick up some stuff on the store
15:45:06  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Then I can fix some climb-issues (If someone doesn't beat me to it)
15:45:29  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Slows down to 98km/h even
15:47:29  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol
15:47:39  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> those RV's are avesome!
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15:49:21  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol
15:49:24  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> leave it
15:49:33  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> let it pickupfirst
15:49:37  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> one thing is funny
15:50:02  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Why is a bulldozer pulling wagons?
15:50:06  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> can they crash into itself?
15:50:23  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> no
15:50:24  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> there's no straight connection from engineering supplies pickup to glass works drop
15:50:32  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol
15:50:44  <V453000> bypass
15:53:07  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> SLH06 doesn't have supply transfer?
15:53:37  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> now it has
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15:58:56  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> There was one mistake made:
15:59:07  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> ?
15:59:24  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> when we were founding secondaries person who found one should write down what it accepts at the Cargo Board
15:59:43  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> now we are not sure if it is complete
16:00:11  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> and we have multiple industries producing some cargos
16:00:19  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> that should be added on that board too
16:00:38  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> this is not the problem
16:00:51  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> well maybe it is
16:00:54  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> but smaller one
16:01:04  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> we do have one problem now :P
16:01:21  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> farm supplies pickup MS CP is too far from machine shop
16:01:42  <jondisti> someone please give us magic bulldozer!
16:02:11  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> btw, now we have engineering supplies being distributed
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16:03:24  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> almost 250 trains they are visible:P
16:03:33  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> something is moving at last
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16:05:16  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> we need to focus on the engineering supplies chain atm
16:06:33  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> what about farm supplies?
16:07:40  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i know
16:07:40  <gr00vy> !password
16:07:40  <PublicServer> gr00vy: fusses
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16:10:18  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> no
16:10:23  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> build a exit
16:10:30  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> not entrance
16:10:43  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> who are you talking to?
16:11:24  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Himself obviously
16:11:30  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Thor... Maybe it's time you took a timeout?
16:11:51  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i was talking to someone who was building nearby]
16:12:02  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> we need 2 stations there
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16:13:29  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> fuck it
16:13:34  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> full trains slow down on any slope
16:14:55  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> fuel oil pickup is jammed
16:15:02  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> need more oli for the raffinery
16:15:03  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> now it's not
16:15:08  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> no*
16:15:17  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> that's no jam :P
16:15:34  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hmm...ok
16:15:48  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> then call it "looking busy without doing anything"
16:15:50  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> :>
16:16:09  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> but anyways the trains are standing still there :)
16:16:41  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> gr00vaLisTic: Do you know full load order?
16:16:48  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> i just flooded trains there
16:16:53  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> there will be more production one day
16:17:32  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> no ships allowed?
16:17:45  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> indeed...
16:17:46  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> nice
16:17:48  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0001BE55:
16:17:49  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ^
16:17:57  <gr00vy> V453000
16:17:58  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> there are ships..
16:18:05  <gr00vy> hm
16:18:08  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Go to Advanced settings
16:18:09  <V453000> hm?
16:18:11  <gr00vy> max ships = 0
16:18:12  <gr00vy> ^^
16:18:14  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> interface
16:18:17  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ah
16:18:23  <V453000> ??? what do you need ships for
16:18:28  <gr00vy> more oil :)
16:18:41  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> just station walk
16:18:44  <V453000> ^
16:18:51  <gr00vy> lol
16:18:52  <gr00vy> cheating!
16:18:52  <gr00vy> ^^
16:19:13  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> so i put a station in the middle of a sea?:D
16:19:40  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> 1 tile of station
16:19:45  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> sure
16:20:23  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ugly anyway :D
16:20:27  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> but ok
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16:28:17  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Whoever Create that orders: USE Full load at Pickup
16:28:34  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> where?
16:28:48  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> I think that was CommieSi
16:29:12  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Drononghall Milk and Droninghall Livestock
16:29:15  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> does any secondary industry require farm supplies
16:29:44  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> already fixed orders
16:29:49  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> but it's not first time
16:29:53  <PublicServer> <CommieSi> sorry i cocked it
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16:37:03  <^Spike^> !info
16:37:03  <PublicServer> ^Spike^: #:1(Orange) Company Name: '#openttdcoop PSG 178'  Year Founded: 1970  Money: 3998113584  Loan: 0  Value: 4055399105  (T:266, R:20, P:8, S:0) unprotected
16:37:22  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> ok now we have farm supplies running from FSD
16:38:56  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> who made SL02 supply transfer?
16:40:56  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> Thorinbur:  there's no need for separated farm supply transfer
16:44:51  <jondisti> ^Spike^: can you turn magic bulldozer on for a sec?
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16:50:02  <Drunkzilla> !password
16:50:02  <PublicServer> Drunkzilla: falter
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16:51:15  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> I know there is no need for that
16:51:23  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> but thought it would be better
16:51:56  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> because of the distance between industries
16:52:03  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> no
16:52:15  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> it just making things more complicated
16:59:11  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Wow! Free public beta of Ruse!
16:59:50  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> hmmm i wonder if i would be able to stay in game
16:59:55  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> while downloading beta
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17:20:16  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> we don't have train for parts
17:21:50  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> wha???
17:22:12  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Why there are 4500 Pax waiting at Brewery food pickup??
17:22:31  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> o lol!
17:22:34  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i know why
17:22:37  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> hahahahahaha
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17:25:46  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> bah i don't have time
17:26:11  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> needs to be discovered how many groups of parts trains we need
17:26:18  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> multiple pickups and drops
17:26:25  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> same with packaging...
17:26:30  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> bye
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17:26:41  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> all drops are listed for packafging
17:27:06  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> that wasn't my point you know :P
17:27:09  <bobstay> !password
17:27:09  <PublicServer> bobstay: napkin
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17:27:21  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> I know...
17:27:35  <bobstay> yay, trains!
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17:33:51  <Chris_Booth> aternoon all
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17:35:16  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: hugest
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17:45:52  <PublicServer> gr00vy: hugest
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18:22:26  <XeryusTC> !password
18:22:26  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: haggle
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18:48:11  <Drunkzilla> Hi, can someone please tell me how many trains can 'classic' SLH handle? I have LLRR ML and LR SL.. got ~125 trains going from SL to ML and I am getting jams often.. there are no trains coming straight throught ML (there were ~130 trains, but I had to make separate lines for them).
18:48:37  <KenjiE20> short answer; no
18:49:19  <Ammler> but 130 isn't much
18:49:23  <Drunkzilla> I could just assume, that SLH can handle ~100 trains without jams.. but I know that my SLH might not be built well or there.. so I just wanted to know how many trains are passing throught your SLHs
18:49:49  <Drunkzilla> KenjiE20: It's not yes/no question I guess :)
18:49:58  <Ammler> around 200 trains per line
18:50:07  <KenjiE20> sure it is, Can is a yes/no question
18:50:27  <Drunkzilla> Ah.. sorry.. of course.. from that point of view.. you are right :)
18:50:55  <KenjiE20> and the short answer to that is no, since there's not enough info
18:51:06  <Drunkzilla> Ammler: so when you have ie. LLRR ml and LR sl .. you can have 800+400 trains going through SLH?
18:51:06  <KenjiE20> ^ being the slightly longer answer
18:51:21  <Ammler> so a slh should be able to handle (2+2+1+1)*200
18:51:54  <Ammler> Drunkzilla: yep :-)
18:52:03  <Drunkzilla> Hm... well.. than I have to have some hard fails in my layout :d
18:52:27  <Ammler> you forget something :-P
18:52:36  <Drunkzilla> TL is 4 ?
18:52:41  <XeryusTC> throughput of your SLH totally depends on how good your joiners are
18:52:49  <Ammler> that too, but mostly the time frame
18:53:00  <XeryusTC> the main bottleneck in any point of the network is were lines mix
18:53:28  <XeryusTC> unless you manage to time every single train so that it does not need to wait for other trains when it joins a line
18:54:04  <XeryusTC> so basicly you need to build good joiners
18:54:25  <XeryusTC> and have trains which accelerate quite fast so hold ups are very uncommon
18:54:40  <Drunkzilla> well.. it's my first SLH.. built by image from wiki in basic networking section... and I built it on mountain... so it's really badly built I guess.
18:55:02  <Drunkzilla> XeryusTC:  ah.. ok.. so it won't be as easy as I thought :d
18:55:33  <Ammler> easiest is to join our ps and build the hub there
18:55:40  <XeryusTC> which kind of train are you using? (the chimera is a very bad engine for once)
18:55:45  <Ammler> then you can see, how it works and you get feedback
18:55:49  <XeryusTC> starters*
18:56:10  <KenjiE20> or grab games from the archive, and see what's been built before
18:56:24  <Drunkzilla> XeryusTC: Turner Turbo, TL4
18:57:11  <Drunkzilla> Ammler: I am watching your games, reading wiki and all I can find.. but I didn't want to join your games and start building because I don't feel good enough to play with you :)
18:57:30  <XeryusTC> Ammler: btw, on the month old topic of the wiki rewrite, maybe we should have something more along the lines of the openttd wiki :P
18:58:33  <XeryusTC> Turbo should do fine btw :o
18:58:54  <XeryusTC> havent played with vanilla ttd trains in tropic or arctic for a long time though
18:59:20  <Chris_Booth> Drunkzilla: if you join the server games and build people will help you
18:59:20  <Thorinbur> Drunkzilla: its on single player game?
18:59:26  <Chris_Booth> and then you will get better
18:59:27  <Drunkzilla> XeryusTC:  how can I see which train has better acceleration.. I know that more power = more capacity (vagons) while keeping maximum speed... but I haven't found any exact explanation about it... like how to count power, acceleration, tl together...
18:59:54  <XeryusTC> TE is basicly which involves acceleration the most
18:59:59  <Chris_Booth> Drunkzilla: accleration depends on a few factors
19:00:06  <Drunkzilla> Thorinbur: yes, I started it on multi, but It ended already I think.. so I continue in single
19:00:12  <Chris_Booth> tractive effort, HP wieght and drag
19:00:35  <Chris_Booth> the hight the TE the faster the acceleration
19:00:39  <Thorinbur> you can share save game i would be happy to look at you SLH. Maybe i will find something
19:00:45  <Chris_Booth> the high the HP the high the top speed
19:00:56  <Chris_Booth> wieght a drag slow the trains down
19:01:11  <Drunkzilla> Chris_Booth: well.. I will join your games soon I hope.. I found that V453000 is Czech too.. so I already talked to him and he might help me
19:01:40  <Drunkzilla> Thorinbur: ok, i will upload it..
19:01:41  <Chris_Booth> V453000: will turn you insane with his made designs
19:01:50  <Thorinbur> We all are happy to help. Don't be afraid to came
19:02:15  <Chris_Booth> Thorinbur: *We all are happy to help. Don't be afraid to ask
19:02:44  <V453000> Chris Booth: he shouldn't have been  told that  :D
19:02:44  <Drunkzilla> Chris_Booth: yes thats what I thought.. but I didn't know any 'exact equations' .. I was just like.. 'well.. more power = better = handling more cargo faster)
19:02:52  <V453000> awww
19:02:57  <V453000> :D
19:03:00  <Drunkzilla> V453000: hi :)
19:03:04  <V453000> hey there
19:03:36  <Thorinbur> to come in
19:03:40  <Chris_Booth> Drunkzilla: for pax more power = better
19:03:53  <Chris_Booth> but for heavy traind you need a high TE + high power
19:04:10  <Drunkzilla> Chris_Booth: ah...ok, thank you
19:04:10  <Chris_Booth> otherwise trains will be painfuly slow to accelerate
19:04:40  <Chris_Booth> ok dinner time
19:04:42  <Chris_Booth> bbl all
19:04:44  <V453000> cya
19:04:47  <Drunkzilla> cya
19:05:14  <Drunkzilla> Thorinbur:, 2020-10-27.sav
19:05:37  <Drunkzilla> eh.. well.. I didn't rename it.. so you will have to copy paste it :)
19:06:20  <Thorinbur> is there easy way of replacing trains, or i have to stop every single one in depot, build newer loco, clone orders, and tranfser carts
19:06:50  <XeryusTC> use autoreplace
19:07:04  <Drunkzilla> Btw: there are no prios... I tried to build them in another savegame... but then rewrite it.. and I didn't built them again..They are not needed now anyway, because I made separate rails for ML tracks (goods)
19:07:08  <XeryusTC> accessible from the train list :P
19:08:06  <Drunkzilla> Thorinbur: And the SLH is quite messy now, because I was trying to add more tracks to avoid jams...
19:08:29  <Thorinbur> There are a lot of CL's there
19:08:53  <Thorinbur> you should avoid tight 90deg turns
19:08:58  <Drunkzilla> It's built on mountain.. so it was quite complicated.. I tried to do it without TF
19:08:58  <Thorinbur> @cl
19:08:58  <Webster> cl: Curve Length, mostly used to describe how big a curve must be to let pass trains with a certain TL at full speed, see also:
19:09:27  <Drunkzilla> but I guess that I just took more than I can do as a beginner :)
19:09:48  <Thorinbur> hmmm... some tunnels need doubling
19:10:23  <Thorinbur> for example that loooong tunnel?
19:10:30  <Thorinbur> it makes hudge signal gap
19:10:52  <Thorinbur> So trains wait until another one will leave tunel on the other side
19:10:54  <Drunkzilla> I also think, that I might reduce jams if I make the west merge later...
19:11:04  <Drunkzilla> merge at sl..
19:11:16  <Thorinbur> there are way more important problems
19:11:26  <Thorinbur> whole thing needs complete rebuild
19:11:28  <Thorinbur> 1. CL
19:11:29  <Drunkzilla> yeah.. that long tunnel is last addition... it's like 2nd 'additional' way to avoid jams...
19:11:39  <Thorinbur> 2. double the tunells/ bridges
19:11:52  <Thorinbur> @gap 4
19:11:52  <Webster> Thorinbur: For Trainlength of 4: < 10 needs 2, 11 - 16 needs 3, 17 - 22 needs 4.
19:12:08  <OwenS> !password
19:12:09  <PublicServer> OwenS: lobbed
19:12:35  <PublicServer> *** Owen joined the game
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19:12:58  <OwenS> Wait... you're not talking about stuff in game O_o
19:13:02  <Drunkzilla> Thorinbur: ok, I guess that I will clear that mountain and start building that SLH from scratch
19:13:05  <Thorinbur> other thing that muuuulti tunel west form SLH is desynced
19:13:21  <Drunkzilla> OwenS:  right.. he's watching my singlegame save :d
19:13:25  <Thorinbur> make it multiplayer server and give me IP :P
19:13:51  <Thorinbur> So i could watch and point out CL's and possible problems
19:14:03  <Drunkzilla> It won't work I guess.. I am at my university's dormitory and we have blocked too much stuff.. you won't be able to join me
19:14:17  <Drunkzilla> But I can try of course (when I will find how) :d
19:14:43  <Thorinbur> hmm...
19:14:48  <Thorinbur> than you join me:P
19:15:00  <Thorinbur> and than i will send you save game when you finish
19:15:17  <Drunkzilla> just a sec...
19:15:22  <Drunkzilla> First we try it
19:15:48  <OwenS> <-- Oh dear god... political adverts on The Register
19:15:52  <Drunkzilla> should I just use my classic IP from ipconfig or there is some special info in ttd?
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19:16:48  <Drunkzilla> Haven't ever made server in TT.. so I absolutely don't know :)
19:16:57  <Thorinbur> i think IP itself would do unless you are behind router and you are not forwarded
19:17:25  <Drunkzilla> I am..
19:17:38  <Drunkzilla> So it won't work.. As I though :x
19:17:38  <Thorinbur> let's give it a try
19:17:41  <Drunkzilla> ok..
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19:37:05  <V453000> @sml
19:37:05  <Webster> sml: Shift Main Line, see also:
19:43:58  <Chris_Booth> mmh bk
19:44:26  <Thorinbur> @cl
19:44:26  <Webster> cl: Curve Length, mostly used to describe how big a curve must be to let pass trains with a certain TL at full speed, see also:
19:44:39  <Thorinbur> how to check Cl for given Tl and speed
19:44:50  <Thorinbur> i think there was a command for that
19:45:01  <Chris_Booth> @calcl
19:45:15  <Chris_Booth> @clcalc
19:45:15  <Webster> Chris_Booth: (clcalc <railtype> [<tilt>] <cl|km/h>) -- For a number <30 this calculates the speed for <cl> on <railtype>. For any other numbers, this calculates the CL required for <railtype> travelling at <km/h>, assuming TL is small enough. [<tilt>] will apply tilt bonuses to the calculation.
19:45:23  <Chris_Booth> that one Thorinbur
19:45:58  <Thorinbur> @clcalc erail 160
19:45:58  <Webster> Thorinbur: Required CL for rail at 160km/h is 3 (5 half tiles) or TL
19:46:24  <Drunkzilla> so if TL is > 3, than CL should = TL ?
19:46:32  <Chris_Booth> yes
19:46:41  <Drunkzilla> ok
19:47:26  <Chris_Booth> !password
19:47:26  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: accost
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20:14:16  <ziza> !password
20:14:17  <PublicServer> ziza: flecks
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20:15:18  <Thorinbur> @gap 4
20:15:19  <Webster> Thorinbur: For Trainlength of 4: < 10 needs 2, 11 - 16 needs 3, 17 - 22 needs 4.
20:25:38  <bobstay> is that... signal spacings?
20:28:15  <bobstay> @gap
20:28:15  <Webster> bobstay: (gap <trainlength> [<split>]) -- Returns minimum and maximum signal gap sizes for 2,3 and 4 linesplits with <trainlength>. If <spilt> is given it will return the the gap sizes for <split> (+/-) 1.
20:28:24  <bobstay> ah, thought so
20:28:40  <Phazorx> bobstay: standard signal spacing is one tile (number 2 in settings)
20:28:51  <bobstay> right
20:28:53  <Phazorx> but if for some reasons it can not be maintained on one lane
20:29:02  <Phazorx> you need to add extra lanes to compensate
20:29:29  <bobstay> like with bridges and tunnels?
20:29:31  <KenjiE20> other way around isn't it?
20:29:39  <Phazorx> bobstay: yup
20:29:41  <KenjiE20> gap of 1, spacing of 2 (ui)
20:30:06  <Phazorx> that;s hat i typed KenjiE20 isnt it ?
20:30:30  <KenjiE20> "signal spacing is one tile" <- not quite
20:31:26  <KenjiE20> !playercount
20:31:26  <PublicServer> KenjiE20: Number of players: 4
20:31:31  <KenjiE20> !players
20:31:32  <PublicServer> KenjiE20: Client 1067 is Pirate87, a spectator
20:31:33  <PublicServer> KenjiE20: Client 1073 is ZiZa, a spectator
20:31:33  <PublicServer> KenjiE20: Client 1038 is jond1sti, a spectator
20:31:33  <PublicServer> KenjiE20: Client 1056 is Intexon, a spectator
20:31:36  <KenjiE20> hmmm
20:31:42  <KenjiE20> anyone mind if I do an update?
20:31:54  <bobstay> so... when it says "<10 needs 2", that means if you split your line into two, you can have signal gap of up to 10 tiles?
20:32:07  <KenjiE20> up to and including
20:32:20  <KenjiE20> 10 is the theshold value
20:32:33  <KenjiE20> and is probably debatable which side it lands on
20:33:05  <bobstay> sure
20:33:27  <KenjiE20> 'and including' is the normal read though
20:34:19  <KenjiE20> but clearly if the line is low yield, you might not need as (m)any splits
20:36:07  <KenjiE20> what was I doing?
20:36:10  <KenjiE20> oh right, update
20:42:42  <PublicServer> *** ZiZa has left the game (leaving)
20:43:32  <PublicServer> Saving game...
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20:44:17  <PublicServer> Loading default savegame
20:44:17  *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer
20:44:17  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #178 (r19386) | STAGE: Building | | New players, use @quickstart & !help | Screenshots: | Coopetition ladder: | Welcome to the depths of insanity"
20:44:23  <KenjiE20> !info
20:44:31  <PublicServer> KenjiE20: server_pw besets
20:44:31  <PublicServer> KenjiE20: alias ap_cmd "%+ ; echo donecapture"
20:44:31  <PublicServer> KenjiE20: debug_level "0"
20:44:31  <PublicServer> KenjiE20: server_info
20:44:31  <PublicServer> KenjiE20: dbg: [net] [core] starting network...
20:44:31  <PublicServer> KenjiE20: dbg: [net] [udp] initializing listeners
20:44:31  <PublicServer> KenjiE20: dbg: [net] [core] network online, multiplayer available
20:44:33  <PublicServer> KenjiE20: dbg: [net] Detected broadcast addresses:
20:44:33  <PublicServer> KenjiE20: dbg: [net] 0)
20:44:35  <PublicServer> KenjiE20: dbg: [net] 1)
20:44:35  <PublicServer> KenjiE20: dbg: [net] [udp] closed listeners
20:44:37  <PublicServer> KenjiE20: dbg: [net] [udp] initializing listeners
20:44:37  <PublicServer> KenjiE20: dbg: [net] [tcp] listening on IPv4 port (IPv4)
20:44:38  <KenjiE20> grr
20:44:39  <PublicServer> KenjiE20: dbg: [net] [udp] listening on IPv4 port (IPv4)
20:44:39  <PublicServer> KenjiE20: dbg: [net] [udp] advertising to master server
20:44:41  <PublicServer> KenjiE20: dbg: [net] [udp] listening on IPv4 port (IPv4)
20:44:41  <PublicServer> KenjiE20: dbg: [net] [udp] queried from
20:44:43  <PublicServer> KenjiE20: dbg: [net] [udp] received new session key from master server (IPv4)
20:44:43  <PublicServer> KenjiE20: *** Game paused (not enough players)
20:44:45  <PublicServer> KenjiE20: Current/maximum clients:     0/255
20:44:45  <PublicServer> KenjiE20: Current/maximum companies:   1/ 1
20:44:47  <PublicServer> KenjiE20: Current/maximum spectators:  0/10
20:44:47  <PublicServer> KenjiE20: #:1(Orange) Company Name: '#openttdcoop PSG 178'  Year Founded: 1970  Money: 4032685911  Loan: 0  Value: 4071274606  (T:289, R:22, P:8, S:0) unprotected
20:44:59  <KenjiE20> slow start up is slow
20:45:17  <Ammler> :-)
20:48:51  <KenjiE20> we now return to our regularly scheduled insanity
20:48:59  * KenjiE20 fwibbles off
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20:54:08  <hylje> fwibble
20:54:11  <hylje> blubber
20:54:20  <^Spike^> who forgot to give kenji his pills...
20:54:21  * ^Spike^ sighs
20:54:25  <^Spike^> :)
20:54:35  <KenjiE20> fwibble
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21:18:20  <Thorinbur> heh Updating as well
21:20:10  <OwenS> Heh... I've taken to pronouncing "www" as "wibble wibble wibble"
21:20:47  <hylje> haha
21:21:08  <bobstay> that will get you some fun looks.
21:21:23  <Thorinbur> !password
21:21:23  <PublicServer> Thorinbur: topped
21:22:58  <Phazorx> what's so good about 19386?
21:23:23  <KenjiE20> it's new
21:23:33  <KenjiE20> also '386'
21:23:38  <KenjiE20> :)
21:23:41  <Phazorx> most new things are new in ways they suck :)
21:25:07  <SmatZ> :) @ 386
21:25:20  <Phazorx> 386 is so welcome back to 1984
21:25:42  <SmatZ> also OTTD needs testing, it was quite unstable lately
21:25:48  <SmatZ> but it should be fixed now
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21:28:06  *** SmatZ sets mode: +b Chris_Booth!*@*
21:28:08  *** Chris_Booth was kicked by SmatZ (User terminated!)
21:32:37  <PeterT> Did he do something?
21:32:50  <bobstay> !download lin
21:32:50  <PublicServer> bobstay:
21:33:10  <SmatZ> PeterT: nope, do I need a reason?
21:33:26  <PeterT> I didn't ask for a reason
21:33:56  *** SmatZ sets mode: -b Chris_Booth!*@*
21:33:59  <PeterT> SmatZ: No, banning for fun is
21:34:21  <SmatZ> don't tell me, PeterT...
21:34:40  <OwenS> PeterT: You should have been in .pro
21:34:49  <OwenS> Which makes me think... QDB-worthy?
21:35:44  <KenjiE20> meh
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21:36:28  <bobstay> !password
21:36:28  <PublicServer> bobstay: rebind
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21:43:40  <Seberoth> hi all
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21:45:15  <KenjiE20> O.o
21:46:04  <KenjiE20> oh great
21:46:09  <KenjiE20> AP+ broke
21:47:49  <OwenS> ?
21:48:50  <bobstay> oops.
21:48:50  <KenjiE20> "can't read "::players": no such variablecan't read "::players": no such variable" .. blah
21:50:44  <bobstay> Newb question: If I want to use FIRS to get the new industries, is there a train set I can use to keep all the standard TT locomotives and rolling stock, but just add the necessary rolling stock for the new cargo types?
21:50:57  <KenjiE20> old wagons, new cargo?
21:52:03  <bobstay> well, keeping it the same as much as possible, just adding what's needed to transport the new cargo types
21:52:16  <KenjiE20> no, "Old Wagons New Cargo"
21:52:26  <bobstay> oh, it's name
21:52:27  <bobstay> sorry :)
21:52:28  <KenjiE20> look at BaNaNaS
21:52:28  <SmatZ> :)
21:52:30  <KenjiE20> :P
21:52:57  <Ammler> SmatZ: any idea, which commit to revert?
21:53:08  <Ammler> if possible at all
21:53:45  <SmatZ> Ammler: what did/does that variable mean?
21:54:03  <PeterT> OwenS: What happened there?
21:54:15  <SmatZ> I can't remember it
21:54:27  <OwenS> PeterT: Frenemies ;-)
21:55:14  <Ammler> players read the console output of players
21:59:03  <Ammler> I guess, it is something else
21:59:03  <SmatZ> well
21:59:08  <SmatZ> it must be bug in ap+
21:59:13  <SmatZ> "players" still works in OTTD
21:59:16  <Ammler> yes :-)
21:59:31  <OwenS> It's not changed format?
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21:59:48  <PublicServer> Starting new game: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server ('
21:59:48  <PublicServer> Landscape: normal
21:59:48  <PublicServer> Dimensions: 512x512
21:59:48  <PublicServer> Starting year: 1980
21:59:48  *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer
21:59:49  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #178 (r19386) | STAGE: Building | | New players, use @quickstart & !help | Screenshots: | Coopetition ladder: | Welcome to the depths of insanity"
22:00:08  <KenjiE20> I blame me
22:00:17  <KenjiE20> I also blame smatz for loading the wrong save
22:00:22  <Ammler> I blame the save
22:00:25  <SmatZ> wut?
22:00:30  <SmatZ> I touched nothing
22:00:30  <PublicServer> Server closed down by admin
22:00:32  <PublicServer> Server has exited
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22:00:39  <KenjiE20> okay Ammler then
22:00:48  *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop
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22:00:48  <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server ('
22:00:48  *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer
22:00:48  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #178 (r19386) | STAGE: Building | | New players, use @quickstart & !help | Screenshots: | Coopetition ladder: | Welcome to the depths of insanity"
22:00:49  <KenjiE20> Ammler: maybe my early !info broke it?
22:01:04  <Ammler> !info
22:01:04  <PublicServer> Ammler: #:1(Orange) Company Name: '#openttdcoop PSG 178'  Year Founded: 1970  Money: 4032685911  Loan: 0  Value: 4071274606  (T:289, R:22, P:8, S:0) unprotected
22:01:22  <Ammler> yes, no !commands before the company info appears on the console
22:01:24  <KenjiE20> I caught it before it had even started at all
22:01:35  <SmatZ> does still !list_signs break things?
22:01:44  <KenjiE20> we really, need a re-write controller
22:01:45  <Ammler> !rcon list_signs
22:01:45  <PublicServer> Ammler: 00021B64 !! MESSAGE BOARD !!
22:01:45  <PublicServer> Ammler: 00021C65 The Gap
22:01:45  <PublicServer> Ammler: 00021D66 You Need to Bridge the gap
22:01:45  <PublicServer> Ammler: 00021E67 between 2 nations
22:01:45  <PublicServer> Ammler: 00021F68 that have just been at war
22:01:47  <PublicServer> Ammler: 00022069 the following treaty will
22:01:47  <PublicServer> Ammler: 0002216A reward the company that will
22:01:49  <PublicServer> Ammler: 0002226B supply passenger and
22:01:49  <PublicServer> Ammler: 0002236C goods services to the best
22:01:51  <PublicServer> Ammler: 0002246D option. Things to remeber:
22:01:51  <PublicServer> Ammler: you have 515 more messages
22:01:53  * KenjiE20 goes back to code
22:01:56  <SmatZ> :)
22:02:03  <Ammler> worked :-)
22:02:10  <KenjiE20> someone join
22:02:10  <SmatZ> !rcon server_pw
22:02:10  <PublicServer> SmatZ: Current value for 'server_password' is: 'poodle'
22:02:21  <hylje> poodle
22:02:25  <SmatZ> :)
22:02:28  <KenjiE20> pooooooooooooooooooodle
22:02:28  <Ammler> wuh
22:02:35  <PublicServer> *** SmatZ joined the game
22:02:42  <KenjiE20> it works
22:02:47  <PublicServer> <SmatZ> ;-)
22:02:48  <PublicServer> *** SmatZ has left the game (leaving)
22:02:48  <KenjiE20> silly AP
22:02:54  <OwenS> KenjiE20: I thought Avignon was supposed to effectively be a rewrite? :p
22:03:06  <KenjiE20> it's still in tcl though :P
22:03:10  <PublicServer> Server closed down by admin
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22:03:14  <OwenS> KenjiE20: And?
22:03:20  * KenjiE20 doesn't get tcl
22:03:38  * KenjiE20 doesn't get python that much either tbh, but more than tcl
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22:03:38  <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server ('
22:03:38  *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer
22:03:38  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #178 (r19386) | STAGE: Building | | New players, use @quickstart & !help | Screenshots: | Coopetition ladder: | Welcome to the depths of insanity"
22:04:01  <Seberoth> hi Ammler
22:04:42  <Ammler> Hello Seberoth :-)
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22:12:24  <IceGuest_75> @quickstart
22:12:27  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki -
22:12:34  <IceGuest_75> !help
22:12:34  <PublicServer> IceGuest_75:
22:13:44  <IceGuest_75> !password
22:13:44  <PublicServer> IceGuest_75: pagoda
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22:23:05  <IceGuest_75> !password
22:23:05  <PublicServer> IceGuest_75: rapist
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22:23:35  <KenjiE20> IceGuest_75: you may prefer an nick we can refer to you with
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22:40:00  <KenjiE20> or quit, that works too
22:45:50  <V453000> not very communicative there
22:45:59  <Thorinbur> ^^
22:46:53  <Thorinbur> To be or not to be... (at tomorows lecture) this is a question!
22:47:48  <Thorinbur> I don't want to wake up at 6am!
22:48:00  <V453000> whoa
22:48:08  <V453000> 6 a.m. is deadly indeed
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22:48:22  <Thorinbur> 1:30h in the bus...
22:48:24  <Thorinbur> one way
22:48:47  <Thorinbur> i would like to have such turbobus like this one at your timer in my city ^^
22:49:01  <V453000> :)
22:49:06  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> Ammler: See PWKEY :-)
22:49:46  <Thorinbur> !password
22:49:46  <PublicServer> Thorinbur: plazas
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22:51:11  <Ammler> oi
22:51:21  <Ammler> Zuu: joined without asking for pw?
22:51:29  <Zuu> Yep
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22:51:41  <Zuu> OTTDAU asked for it
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22:52:19  <Zuu> You can give an URL for even company number if you wish (when I release the update)
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22:53:58  <Thorinbur> hmmm this is not the public version that automaticaly connects is it?
22:55:43  <Zuu> Yep, this is a development version. When it gets released you will still have to be given an URL from Ammler or someelse that contains the password.
22:56:27  <Zuu> There will be a new place in the edit installation dialog where you can set this URL.
22:56:46  <Thorinbur> great^^
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22:58:39  <Thorinbur> btw: what is  the purpose of those shifting passwds?
22:59:46  <KenjiE20> griefer protection amongst others
23:00:02  <Zuu> To stop people from just entering without reading a bit. This keeps away most of the people who's mostly enjoying destroying what others has built.
23:00:43  <Ammler> Thorinbur: join public competive servers with stable versions and you know, what we fear... ;-)
23:01:02  <Thorinbur> hmm... shouldnt than be enought to change passwd like every game?
23:01:21  <Thorinbur> and put in for example wiki?
23:01:23  <Ammler> the password shift is simple to have the possibilty to ban someone
23:01:37  <Zuu> IIRC, one of the reasons was also to get people on IRC for easier communication.
23:01:43  <Thorinbur> ok
23:01:45  <Ammler> Thorinbur: someone joins and sabotage, how you ban him then?
23:01:51  <Thorinbur> this is good reason
23:02:21  <V453000> and by the way now you can see if there is a new password or not when joining - because if there is a new screenshot, also a pw is changed :) at least it worked for me this way so far
23:02:26  <Ammler> and of course, it gets people to read our wiki :-)
23:02:30  <V453000> :)
23:02:46  <PublicServer> *** Zuuu has left the game (connection lost)
23:02:51  <Ammler> yes, webcam is linked to pw change
23:03:00  <Thorinbur> ^^
23:03:29  <Ammler> and once joined, you can switch to spec
23:03:33  <Ammler> for afk
23:03:44  <V453000> well I often disconnect because of connection lost ;)
23:03:51  <V453000> so I check pw often then :)
23:04:41  <Thorinbur> damn... i forgot I turned off my ruse Download when i was hosting a server... I hoped to test it today see if me laptop will handle it.
23:04:56  <Thorinbur> No i have 20% downloaded only
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23:15:02  <Thorinbur> Do you really use teamspeak? Or it is cos it is?
23:15:36  <V453000> it isnt
23:15:50  <V453000> or ... is there a revival new one?
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23:17:36  <Thorinbur> I jut found adress (again) on wiki
23:17:53  <Thorinbur> but is seams unlikely that you realy use it much
23:18:03  <Thorinbur> so i asked
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23:19:57  <V453000> I think it is unoperational
23:20:01  <V453000> it is old
23:20:58  <KenjiE20> @wiki teamspeak
23:21:01  <Webster> Teamspeak - #openttdcoop Wiki -
23:21:05  <KenjiE20> ^ note the tagged page
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23:26:36  <OwenS> I remember joining a teamspeak convo, once, back in ~2006?
23:30:30  <Ammler> we sould like to setup something like that again...
23:30:49  <Ammler> but the "someone" doing it is missing :-)
23:30:59  <KenjiE20> yea, because clients don't have enough bandwidth issues already :P
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23:31:13  <Ammler> he, indeed
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23:31:35  <Ammler> well, we used it for the last coopetion map
23:31:53  <Ammler> Yexo: and me
23:32:15  <Ammler> it is easier than writing...
23:32:25  <Ammler> but my English is too bad ;-)
23:32:39  <Yexo> yes, that coopetition game was fun :)
23:33:56  * KenjiE20 would never use voip
23:34:04  <KenjiE20> not on this line anyway
23:34:16  <Thorinbur> Is there a limit for nick identification trials?
23:34:18  <SmatZ> I was using void at 56k modem...
23:34:26  <Thorinbur> ^^
23:34:32  <SmatZ> *voip
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23:35:23  <SmatZ> hahahaahahahahahahaah
23:35:36  <SmatZ> Thorinbur: yes, there is
23:35:39  <Ammler> hehe
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23:35:49  <Thorinbur> yes there is:P
23:35:49  <SmatZ> Thorinbur: yes, there is
23:36:08  <Thorinbur> Just found out myself
23:36:09  <Ammler> Thorinbur: it has send pw function
23:36:28  <Ammler> or recovery
23:37:03  <Thorinbur> I will try to send pw to email I think i missspelled password while registering
23:37:17  <Thorinbur> I hope i didn't do the same with email :P
23:37:45  <Ammler> well, there is #oftc for that matter :-)
23:37:54  <Ammler> case*
23:40:40  <Thorinbur> 1268350760:22E7489D4F52ADDF5013B817E95697B003D82750 OTTDLihuhuupu
23:41:03  <Thorinbur> f...
23:41:06  <Thorinbur> lol...
23:41:11  <SmatZ> nice password
23:41:16  <Thorinbur> now i have to change couple of pass
23:41:21  <SmatZ> :D
23:41:25  <Thorinbur> stupid EOL in ail
23:41:26  <Thorinbur> mail
23:42:44  <Ammler> yeah, I learned to do /msg jobs and such in a private channel ;-)
23:43:12  <Thorinbur> ...
23:43:12  <Thorinbur> l
23:43:16  <Thorinbur> lesson learned
23:43:19  <Thorinbur> but too late:P
23:44:19  <OwenS> Ammler: I can probably offer VOIP hosting for special occasions
23:44:34  <KenjiE20> ^ is why I let KeePass handle my pwd vault, and if I accidently paste one, it's either a single location pwd, or the generic, 'don't care' one
23:46:47  <OwenS> KenjiE20: It was worse when I accidentally typed my server password into Kopete. Cause, y'know, *nix doesn't echo anything to indicate you're typing in the right window
23:47:47  <KenjiE20> pHeRGQBjst6HNdlM2Ref <-- my pwds all look like this these days
23:47:52  <KenjiE20> (that's a new one)
23:48:23  <Thorinbur> I liked my old pass, but new one is even stronger (previous one lacked some numbers ^^)
23:49:03  <Ammler> Thorinbur: don't fool us, we know you still use the old :-P
23:49:10  <OwenS> KenjiE20: Kinda reminds me of my 32-char hex WPA key. Thats awful to type in on a phone which forces you to use the "Alphanumeric" keyboard for it...
23:49:22  <KenjiE20> heh
23:49:29  <Thorinbur> Try to log in ito my account on ottdcoop webpage:P
23:49:42  <KenjiE20> I think my WPA-PSK2 key is 64bit
23:49:54  <Ammler> I use passphrase there
23:50:17  <Ammler> a nice sentence... :-)
23:50:26  <KenjiE20> wibble
23:51:10  <OwenS> Gah Nokia, release v40...
23:52:03  <V453000> u sure it wasnt v45... ?
23:52:58  <OwenS> V453000: 5800XM Firmware v40
23:53:29  <KenjiE20> not v45.3?
23:53:37  <V453000> for example :)
23:53:41  <KenjiE20> :P
23:54:52  <Thorinbur> \j NickServ
23:54:56  <Thorinbur> hmmm
23:55:45  <Thorinbur> how to open priv channel with NickServ?
23:56:11  <KenjiE20> /query
23:56:55  <Thorinbur> ok it works thanks
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