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00:01:18 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002BAA9: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002BAA9.png 00:01:36 <OwenS> @qdb 00:01:37 <Webster> #openttdcoop quotes: latest quotes - http://hyru.ath.cx:60080/~kenji/ottdcoop/quotes/ 00:03:22 *** ^Spike^ has quit IRC 00:08:19 *** CommieSi has quit IRC 00:12:05 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 00:14:44 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> wow 00:14:57 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> there are 46 trains 00:15:21 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and half of them are just copies in TYs depot 00:16:20 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000ABD9: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000ABD9.png 00:19:28 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 00:21:35 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ok 00:21:52 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> time to add some trains! 00:24:04 *** thgergo has quit IRC 00:24:56 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> V.: Can you found Glass Works ear MS3? 00:25:05 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Or i should do it? 00:26:10 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> V453000: Can you found GlassWorks near MS3? Or i should do it? 00:26:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> on it 00:27:03 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> great. Preparing to release first trains with sand 00:27:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> k 00:27:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> ready 00:28:33 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> sand got only one drop? 00:29:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes I think 00:30:21 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> long way around 00:30:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> see !!! CARGO BOARD 00:30:55 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> but hey it's offitial! We got first train running 00:31:15 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ok 00:31:22 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000B5DC: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000B5DC.png 00:31:59 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> here you are 00:32:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> it will help us 00:32:02 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i lost here 00:32:10 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i lost him 00:32:13 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> rain 00:32:15 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ... 00:32:27 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i lost him. One train in so hudhe network 00:32:33 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ... 00:32:38 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i cant type.. 00:32:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> Druham 00:32:48 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i know 00:32:59 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> it is already at the drop 00:33:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> i see 00:33:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> just dropd 00:33:19 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> almost empty cos i skipped order in this one 00:35:12 <V453000> :) 00:41:19 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> 3 more trains in the system :) 00:41:23 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> 6 total 00:43:06 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> why glassworks do not produce anything? 00:43:28 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> wait 00:43:29 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ok 00:43:32 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> it does 00:43:46 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> so why not put some packaging and part trains? 00:44:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> they do 00:44:26 *** VictorOfSweden has quit IRC 00:44:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh 00:44:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> sure why not 00:44:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> careful, packaging goes to many areas 00:44:54 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i know... 00:45:00 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> checking where exactly 00:45:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> pls check these out and write it on the cargo board 00:45:09 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ok 00:45:32 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i will make full list and then create orders for TY trains 00:46:21 *** OwenS has quit IRC 00:46:24 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000BFC6: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000BFC6.png 00:53:26 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> General Store takes: Food and goods right? 00:53:40 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> got Polish version and want to be sure 00:55:26 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ohw big should supply transfer stations be? 00:55:29 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> *how 00:58:18 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Cement plant Also uses Sand! 00:58:37 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> Thorinbur: how big should supplies transfer stations be? 00:58:42 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> is two tracks enough? 00:58:45 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i don't know 00:58:57 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hm 00:59:01 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> V453000: still there? 00:59:07 <V453000> kind of 00:59:12 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> :) 00:59:17 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> read my question? 00:59:18 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> :) 00:59:26 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Cement plant also accepts sand 00:59:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> 2 shall suffice 00:59:47 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i think the sunner we create full list and example orders for trains in TY 00:59:49 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> the better 01:00:09 <V453000> the cargolist will help 01:00:31 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> it is incomplete 01:00:54 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> create Cement plant in the meantime 01:01:26 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000B8CA: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000B8CA.png 01:01:27 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i will try to find other ind accepting packaging 01:03:52 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> i didn't follow - did you find any solution for RV stations? 01:06:18 <PublicServer> *** gr00vaLisTic has left the game (leaving) 01:06:25 <gr00vy> !password 01:06:25 <PublicServer> gr00vy: racier 01:06:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> cement plant ready 01:06:35 <PublicServer> *** gr00vaLisTic joined the game 01:06:49 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hm still grey 01:06:50 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> :( 01:07:43 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 01:07:55 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> I hope there is at least one of each ind on map 01:08:21 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> so packaging got 5 drops 01:08:39 *** Fuco has quit IRC 01:15:38 *** themroc has quit IRC 01:16:28 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000BECA: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000BECA.png 01:20:30 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> V453000: you said you're able to build RV buildings? 01:20:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> yea 01:20:49 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> would you mind building some for me? 01:20:51 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> SLH01 01:21:07 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> Punfingbridge 01:22:21 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> you need another for livestock and wool 01:23:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> well no :) 01:23:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> it is wrong 01:23:48 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> oh 01:23:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> you need drops for farms 01:23:50 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> lol 01:23:51 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> yeah 01:23:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> not for cargos 01:23:54 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> muahah 01:24:10 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> so one drop at livestock station should be enough 01:24:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> if it covers only one farm 01:24:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> each farm must have its own 01:24:29 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> no it covers all three in the end 01:24:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> that cannot 01:24:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> because only one will accept it 01:24:49 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ok 01:24:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> and the others will not 01:24:52 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hm 01:24:59 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> then it wasn too wrong 01:25:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> so you need to cover only one farm with each 01:25:11 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> because milk, fruit and wool station are seperate farms 01:25:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> pls build separate RV stations 01:25:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> you dont have to join them with the pickups 01:26:17 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> seems to be the shortest way anyway 01:26:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> sure 01:29:08 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> V453000: like this? 01:31:30 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000A9D9: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000A9D9.png 01:32:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 01:33:11 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hm to less space for loop at dairy 01:33:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> np 01:33:26 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hm ok+ 01:34:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> just walk it from there 01:34:16 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> couldn't you just merge it to the train station? 01:34:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> no 01:34:24 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> should be possible 01:34:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> why 01:34:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> you dont need to merge it 01:34:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> there is no reason for that 01:34:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> at least you can name the stations properly 01:35:06 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> doesnt make a difference to walk it to the farm directly or connect it to the station 01:35:07 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ok 01:35:13 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> thats an argument :) 01:35:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> this way is cleaner 01:36:11 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> how do you name it? 01:36:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> anyhow 01:36:20 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ok 01:36:24 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> should be ok then 01:36:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 01:38:06 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ok thank you 01:38:16 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> perhaps you could have a look at the stations 01:38:21 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> if everything's ok 01:38:27 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> i'll start building some trains then 01:38:49 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> watch for the cargo list as it is unfinished 01:39:03 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i am sure only packaging is complete 01:40:44 <PeterT> !date 01:40:44 <PublicServer> PeterT: 11 May 2300 01:40:55 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> are there any depot centers already? 01:41:21 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> just build yourself small injection 01:41:26 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ok 01:43:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> ;) 01:46:32 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002D16B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002D16B.png 01:52:43 <PublicServer> *** Giddorah has left the game (connection lost) 01:52:58 *** PeterT_ has joined #openttdcoop 01:53:42 *** PeterT_ has quit IRC 01:57:14 *** Giddorah_ has quit IRC 01:57:29 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> is CL 2 big problem at SL before station? 01:57:52 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> nah 01:58:26 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i am making both CL and single bridge 01:59:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 02:01:34 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002D559: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002D559.png 02:05:28 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> Primaries drive back empty? 02:05:33 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> or are there any special orders? 02:09:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> back from drop empty 02:09:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> or?... 02:09:31 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> dont know if you have any other great ideas :D 02:09:38 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> because of the long distances 02:09:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> nono 02:10:00 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> so normal full load <-> drop all and leave empty orders? 02:10:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 02:10:11 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> fine 02:10:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> and if there are more drops, then just go back to the pickup and drop at the next drop ... and so on 02:11:55 *** roboboy has joined #openttdcoop 02:14:55 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol 02:15:02 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Hahahaha 02:15:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> ? 02:15:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> got insane? 02:15:23 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> New Diary and what can you see at the picture of new ind? 02:15:32 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> sign: Diary somewhere nearby 02:15:47 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ? 02:16:04 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> well above should be the meat packer or not? 02:16:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> whatswrong 02:16:17 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> its funny 02:16:28 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ah lol 02:16:33 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> i built the diary ;) 02:16:36 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000346A2: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000346A2.png 02:16:47 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ah... that explains everything 02:16:48 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> you thought it just showed up? 02:16:50 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> :D 02:16:53 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ok 02:16:54 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> yeah 02:16:55 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ^^ 02:16:58 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> heh.... 02:17:03 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> that would have been great indeed 02:17:07 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> but V453000 is still ingame 02:17:16 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> when i was building MSH01 02:17:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes he is somewhere here 02:17:18 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> and you know of the split nature of V453000 and industries 02:17:23 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> that would be to easy 02:17:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> :D 02:17:41 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i placed 2 signgs: Station 1 here 02:17:45 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Station 2 here 02:18:11 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and when i was back to finish it under both signs there were new industries... 02:18:24 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> one of them Exactly! at the sign 02:18:31 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and other two tiles of 02:22:12 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ok 02:22:20 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> 4 trains for every cargo for now 02:22:28 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> have to go to bed 02:22:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 02:22:44 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> if you want you can add the supply trains/rv's 02:22:50 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> that is missing for now 02:23:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> nah I am here just for chat mostly 02:23:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> got stuff 2 do 02:25:30 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> n8 guys 02:25:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> cya 02:25:36 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> night 02:25:39 <PublicServer> *** gr00vaLisTic has left the game (leaving) 02:26:35 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> haha 02:26:38 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> finished! 02:26:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 02:27:01 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> how do you like it? 02:27:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 02:31:38 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002CE27: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002CE27.png 02:46:41 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00029B39: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00029B39.png 02:47:19 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> added trains to my area 02:47:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> kk 02:47:44 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and added 5 trains to deliver packaging 02:49:13 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol... 02:49:58 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and those packs will go areud and around until they will reach destination with Existing! industry 02:52:38 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> 176 trains 02:52:56 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> at last something is moving 02:53:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> isnt it 74? 02:53:16 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol 02:53:21 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> psg 178 02:53:30 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> 1. i messed numbers 02:53:39 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> 2. i remembered it wrong... 02:53:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> I see 02:54:09 <PublicServer> *** Thraxian joined the game 02:54:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> hey 02:54:18 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> hiya 02:54:24 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> wow - people actually playing at this hour? 02:54:31 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ^^ 02:54:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> :D 02:55:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> how do you like the progress Thraxian? :) 02:56:10 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> looking not too shabby 02:56:15 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> are we connecting primaries now? 02:56:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah 03:01:43 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002D63C: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002D63C.png 03:02:00 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> any construction currently happening? 03:02:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> not from me 03:02:17 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> well i am finishing roads 03:03:13 <PeterT> !password 03:03:13 <PublicServer> PeterT: peeved 03:03:27 <PublicServer> *** ottd-bot joined the game 03:03:33 <PublicServer> *** ottd-bot has left the game (leaving) 03:03:35 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ?? 03:03:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> wtf 03:03:38 <PeterT> What 03:03:55 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> they're probably working on a bot that can place signs in-game 03:03:56 <PeterT> Sorry, leftover from testing before 03:04:03 <PeterT> No, Thraxian 03:04:08 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol 03:04:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> they are just making a bot to annoy people by joining and leaving ^^ 03:04:58 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> then it sounds like I'm out of a job :) 03:05:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 03:05:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> you annoy people? 03:05:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> I thought that is Chris Booths job :D at least he said so 03:05:38 <PublicServer> *** Peter joined the game 03:05:41 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> I only annoy people with my comings and goings 03:05:53 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> but not with my staying 03:05:59 <PeterT> There, fixed 03:06:07 <PublicServer> *** Peter has left the game (leaving) 03:06:18 <PublicServer> *** Peter joined the game 03:06:19 <PeterT> !players 03:06:21 <PublicServer> PeterT: Client 1026 (Orange) is Thraxian, in company 1 (#openttdcoop PSG 178) 03:06:21 <PublicServer> PeterT: Client 1023 (Orange) is Thorinbur, in company 1 (#openttdcoop PSG 178) 03:06:21 <PublicServer> PeterT: Client 1029 is Peter, a spectator 03:06:21 <PublicServer> PeterT: Client 1017 (Orange) is V453000, in company 1 (#openttdcoop PSG 178) 03:06:39 <PeterT> There, I have now logged out of SSH 03:06:52 <PeterT> !revision 03:06:53 <PublicServer> PeterT: Game version is r19253 03:07:42 <PublicServer> *** Peter #1 joined the game 03:08:32 <PublicServer> *** Peter has left the game (leaving) 03:09:01 <PublicServer> *** Peter #1 has changed his/her name to Peter 03:09:29 <PublicServer> *** Peter has left the game (leaving) 03:09:36 <PeterT> Good night 03:10:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> I am off 03:10:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> cya folks 03:11:03 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 03:12:00 <PublicServer> *** Thraxian has left the game (leaving) 03:12:01 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 03:12:10 <PublicServer> *** Thorinbur has left the game (leaving) 03:12:11 <PeterT> It's a chain reaction 03:16:45 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002D229: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002D229.png 03:26:13 *** reebok has joined #openttdcoop 03:29:54 *** ra0ceq has joined #openttdcoop 03:29:56 <ra0ceq> Всем привет 03:30:37 *** reebok has quit IRC 03:55:48 *** mixrin has quit IRC 04:05:59 *** gr00vy has quit IRC 04:06:04 *** gr00vy has joined #openttdcoop 04:27:50 *** Thorinbur has quit IRC 05:39:50 *** Drunkzilla has joined #openttdcoop 05:49:48 *** CommieSi has joined #openttdcoop 06:02:00 *** einKarl has joined #openttdcoop 06:25:34 *** Drunkzilla has quit IRC 06:48:57 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop 06:48:57 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 07:35:25 *** ^Spike^ has joined #openttdcoop 07:35:25 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ^Spike^ 08:05:38 *** ra0ceq has quit IRC 08:06:33 *** Paul2_ has joined #openttdcoop 08:07:06 *** Paul2 has quit IRC 08:19:10 *** Phazorx has joined #openttdcoop 08:19:10 *** Webster sets mode: +o Phazorx 08:30:02 *** OwenS has joined #openttdcoop 08:30:02 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v OwenS 08:30:12 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 08:31:18 *** Fuco has joined #openttdcoop 08:31:22 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Fuco 08:34:30 *** ODM has quit IRC 08:40:44 *** Giddorah has joined #openttdcoop 08:40:49 <Giddorah> G'morning :) 08:41:05 <Giddorah> Finally getting some help with my internet 08:41:11 <Giddorah> Might jump in and out alot today 08:43:19 <gr00vy> !password 08:43:19 <PublicServer> gr00vy: vaults 08:43:35 <PublicServer> *** gr00vaLisTic joined the game 08:49:02 <PublicServer> *** gr00vaLisTic has left the game (leaving) 08:51:13 <Giddorah> !password 08:51:13 <PublicServer> Giddorah: hinges 08:51:38 <PublicServer> *** Giddorah joined the game 08:51:57 <Giddorah> Does the password-list follow a pattern? Or is there some way to auto-login? 08:52:08 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 08:52:09 <PublicServer> *** gr00vaLisTic joined the game 08:52:26 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hi 08:52:31 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Howdy :) 08:53:49 <Giddorah> Hmmm... Trains are running with cargo but no industries to accept them? 08:54:06 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> forexample? 08:54:33 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Well... Brewery+Bakery 08:55:42 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Machine Shop's missing 08:59:08 *** Fuco has quit IRC 09:00:06 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hm, cant build brewery there 09:00:19 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Are we supposed to place industries? 09:00:40 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> as far as i know yes 09:01:02 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> otherwise it wouldnt have made many sense to place the stations already all over the map 09:01:11 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> without knowing where the industries will show up 09:01:40 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Hmmm 09:01:48 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003DD2E: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0003DD2E.png 09:01:48 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hmmm 09:01:50 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> What if Great Brunnford is considered a city? 09:01:53 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> it didn't let me... :( 09:02:04 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> :> 09:02:40 *** Paul2_ is now known as Paul2 09:02:50 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Nice :) 09:05:00 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ok 09:07:13 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Remember that the Brewery only have to be connected to Brewery Grain Delivery station 09:07:22 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> And bakery to Bakery Grain Delivery :) 09:07:53 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> and to brewery/bakery drop 09:07:58 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> because of fruit/vegetables 09:08:11 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> its just that grain trains have to get transfer order instead of unload 09:08:19 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Ah, aight 09:08:53 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> don't know where to get food to 09:16:50 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000C9B4: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000C9B4.png 09:31:52 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000B48E: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000B48E.png 09:46:54 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000C3BC: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000C3BC.png 09:52:47 *** Phazorx has left #openttdcoop 10:01:12 <CommieSi> !password 10:01:13 <PublicServer> CommieSi: smocks 10:01:19 <CommieSi> smocks 10:01:31 <PublicServer> *** CommieSi joined the game 10:01:36 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> morning guys 10:01:56 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001FD59: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001FD59.png 10:01:56 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hiho 10:03:08 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> just seen sum1 has plopped industries at me sation :-) 10:03:15 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> where? 10:03:24 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> ML04 10:03:28 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hm yeah 10:04:20 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> shame that plastics plant was put there... 10:04:51 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> perhaps it showed up all alone? 10:04:57 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> there shouldn't be one anyway 10:05:11 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> should be @ 03 10:05:36 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> so just ignore it :D 10:06:00 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> what you're doing? 10:06:11 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> station walking to gake sure the drop works 10:06:23 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> for which industry? 10:06:49 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> ewrm 10:06:50 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> CommieSi: Why not use CTRL+ Build Station? :) 10:07:02 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> i keep meaning to, just never di 10:07:06 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> it'll come in time 10:07:34 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> and i just realised my biiig mistake 10:07:48 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> Plastics plan was just created no1 added it i think 10:07:53 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> yeah 10:07:59 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> it is not used @ 04 10:08:05 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> is supposed to be @ 03 10:08:50 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> I'll drop the paper mill in there then 10:08:53 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> get it sorted 10:10:27 *** jondisti has joined #openttdcoop 10:11:06 <jondisti> !password 10:11:06 <PublicServer> jondisti: outran 10:11:11 <PublicServer> *** jond1sti joined the game 10:11:22 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> hello 10:11:29 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> morning 10:11:38 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hi jond1sti 10:12:14 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> wohoo trains 10:12:25 *** Drunkzilla has joined #openttdcoop 10:12:25 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> yup 10:12:41 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> MS04 is complete 10:12:58 <Drunkzilla> hi 10:13:05 <Drunkzilla> !password 10:13:05 <PublicServer> Drunkzilla: outran 10:13:26 <PublicServer> *** Drunkzilla joined the game 10:13:36 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> someone can tell me where sawmill and aluminium plant should go @ MSH07? 10:13:58 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> V453000 only built stations for metal foundry and raffinery 10:14:18 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Thorinbur Area? 10:14:30 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> you se there are 1 MSHs 10:14:31 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> 2 10:14:33 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> :P 10:14:40 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> oh lol :D 10:15:00 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> should be MSH07B 10:15:05 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> A already existes 10:15:09 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> yes 10:15:14 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ok 10:15:15 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> :D 10:15:16 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> thx 10:16:28 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> we do still seem to have the issue with RVs 10:16:42 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> V453000 was able to built them 10:16:45 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> i'm not 10:16:49 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> why issue? 10:16:55 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> cant build RV buildings 10:16:58 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000078B7: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000078B7.png 10:17:05 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> only streets/bridges 10:17:16 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> you mean depot? 10:17:20 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> yeah any of them 10:17:25 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> i can 10:17:30 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I can't 10:17:32 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> no "vehicle-producing" stations 10:17:37 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hm 10:17:47 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> No Depot, no stations and not one-way roads 10:18:31 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> Yea we know some people can 10:18:40 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> trying to work out why others cannot 10:18:45 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> is game giving error message or what? 10:18:54 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Buttons are just greyed out 10:18:57 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> nope just greyed out boxes 10:19:34 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> might be a bug of some king 10:19:56 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I think it's a queen-bug 10:20:08 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> advanced settings->interface->"show building tools when no suitable vehicles are available" 10:20:11 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> do you have that set as 10:20:14 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> 'on'? 10:20:43 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> :-P 10:20:44 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> heh i meant kind, not king :P 10:20:50 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> why thankyou! 10:21:09 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> you can now? 10:21:19 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> yea 10:21:20 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> yeah worked 10:21:21 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> thx 10:21:42 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> but its definitely a bug since there are vehicles available 10:21:56 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> possibly not 10:22:06 <PublicServer> <Drunkzilla> I see a deadlock 10:22:13 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> as technically there are no suitable vehicles 10:22:24 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Deadlock? 10:22:25 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> CommieSi: hows that? 10:22:33 <PublicServer> <Drunkzilla> Station: Punfingbridge Waste 10:22:38 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> it is the default vehicles 10:22:43 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> but this is FIRs 10:22:50 <PublicServer> <Drunkzilla> Not sure if deadlock is correct word.. but ... dunno :) 10:23:02 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> so none of the industries can be serviced by RVs anyway 10:23:28 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> no waut i am being v v dumb 10:23:35 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> ignore the rambling s 10:23:58 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> 'too many vehicles in game' 10:24:03 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> That's weird 10:24:11 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> someone set limit to 0 10:24:12 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> It shouldn't deadlock... Should it? 10:24:23 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oh 10:24:23 <PublicServer> <Drunkzilla> one piece of rail is missing 10:24:34 <PublicServer> <Drunkzilla> yeah.. 10:24:37 <PublicServer> <Drunkzilla> now its ok 10:25:13 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> re 10:25:16 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> what did i forget there? 10:25:23 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> just noticed you fixed something 10:25:34 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> piece of track missing? 10:25:35 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> That piece of track 10:25:41 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ok great 10:25:41 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> thx 10:25:45 <PublicServer> <Drunkzilla> np :) 10:25:56 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> 2 people for such a masterpiece of fixing :D 10:26:02 <PublicServer> <Drunkzilla> :D 10:26:11 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ridiculous 10:26:12 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Can't really take all credit for all that work :) 10:26:13 <PublicServer> <Drunkzilla> Took us whole night of thinking :d 10:26:20 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> yeah 10:27:15 *** OwenS has quit IRC 10:27:25 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> are we already producing farm supplies somewhere? 10:27:58 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> we have industries and stations but no trains using it :( 10:29:22 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> trains' orders @ trainyard need updating 10:30:23 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> is there a shortcut for street multitool? 10:30:25 *** fonsinchen_ has joined #openttdcoop 10:30:31 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> like for the train tracks? 10:30:46 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> haven't found one 10:32:00 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000A6CF: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000A6CF.png 10:32:23 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Dunno any shortcut 10:32:33 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Ctrl+Auto-road works for removing them though 10:32:44 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> So you don't have to change tools that often 10:33:20 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> And you know the terraforming-tools right? 10:33:33 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Q-W-E 10:34:07 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> year train ones are clear i think 10:34:08 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> hhmm we need to place a machine shop 10:34:09 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> at least for me :D 10:35:27 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> What about general store? 10:37:17 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hm who can fix too many vehicle problem? :) 10:37:27 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> a member 10:37:28 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> We got too many vehicles??! 10:37:41 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> yes, at least RVs 10:37:44 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> We only got like 105 10:37:46 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oh 10:37:48 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I see 10:38:00 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> allowed: 0 :D 10:38:19 *** fonsinchen_ is now known as fonsinchen 10:40:51 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 10:41:33 *** Phoenix_the_II has quit IRC 10:41:40 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 10:44:03 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> jond1sti wahts with you farm supplies? 10:44:14 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> i need some too :D 10:44:31 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> although they don't help anyway as long as we don't have RVs 10:45:04 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> CommieSi: no farm supplies before we have fuel oil, chemicals and goods :P 10:45:37 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> who was building alu trains? 10:46:01 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> they are still waiting at depot 10:46:02 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> :D 10:46:19 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> me for a second 10:46:33 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> should i start them? 10:46:38 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> they have orders already 10:46:41 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> seem to be ready to go 10:47:02 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002CAA6: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002CAA6.png 10:47:42 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> i let them go...trains 98 + 191 10:47:43 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> 101 10:48:03 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> just checking, just one Machine shop for the whole map? 10:50:58 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> @jonnd1sti, is there a reason for your Farm Supply Pickup station? 10:51:40 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> how are we handling primaries that have 2 drops? 10:51:47 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> like wood (papermill + sawmill) 10:51:58 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> orders like load -> sec1 -> load ->sec2? 10:52:06 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> 1. go pickup 2. go drop #1 3. go pickup 4. go drop #2 10:52:14 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ok 10:52:47 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> i'm updating trainyard trains' orders as i am adding new ones 10:53:22 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> i've just updated alu trains 10:53:40 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> also is the alu train too long? 10:53:45 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> remember to add 'unload and leave empty' for drop order 10:53:56 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> (done) 10:54:05 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> check the pickup 10:54:11 <^Spike^> !info 10:54:11 <PublicServer> ^Spike^: #:1(Orange) Company Name: '#openttdcoop PSG 178' Year Founded: 1970 Money: 3896974299 Loan: 0 Value: 3929243755 (T:110, R:0, P:8, S:0) unprotected 10:54:30 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> pickup? 10:54:39 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> aluminium pickup 10:54:46 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> the trains seem too long 10:54:47 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> hmm 10:54:56 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> 3large + 1 small 10:54:58 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> ? 10:55:32 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> fixed :) 10:55:41 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> order was 'near end' not 'far end' 10:55:47 *** Fuco has joined #openttdcoop 10:55:48 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> so it wasn't a problem 10:55:51 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Fuco 10:55:56 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> ahhh 10:56:03 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> just "looks" too long 10:56:15 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> looks it's not using whole platform 10:57:12 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> i hope we could remove voting board :P 10:57:49 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> hahah, theres no bauxite mines 10:58:08 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> so let's prospect a few 10:58:55 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> oh 10:58:58 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> jond1sti: did you fix orders @ trainyard? 10:59:11 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> not all 10:59:19 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> just a few actually 10:59:20 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> what orders do give them? 10:59:22 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> just none? 10:59:33 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> drop order 10:59:34 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> or orders containg the drops 10:59:35 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ? 10:59:39 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ok 10:59:48 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> especially the ones that have multiple 11:00:43 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> like that? look at wood train 11:01:19 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> like that 11:01:43 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ah ok 11:01:55 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Hmmm 11:01:58 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> wasnt sure wether adding pickups for primaries is doing that much sense :D 11:02:04 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002E391: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002E391.png 11:02:10 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Should I start the grainsplitter at brewery/bakery? 11:02:26 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> is grain arriving? 11:02:31 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yes ma'am 11:02:33 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> yes 11:02:41 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> well then start it 11:02:42 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> :D 11:02:47 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Started :) 11:03:06 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> where is food and goods supposed to be brought to? 11:03:13 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Wonder how I have NEVER thought of that idea before? (The splitter) 11:03:35 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Hmmm... Game laggy for anyone else? 11:03:40 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> sometimes 11:03:41 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> station named 'food & goods drop' 11:03:42 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> but not too often 11:03:46 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> oh lol :D 11:03:55 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> tooooo easy to think of :D 11:04:00 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> and actually farm supply depot needs goods too 11:05:10 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> so i build some food pickup trains for brewery/bakery 11:05:27 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> ok 11:05:49 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Isn't there a way to see loading-status even though visibility is turned down? 11:05:54 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> maybe double orders for them by now and maybe there could be 2 groups of goods trains later 11:06:11 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> Giddorah: click on train and then on "information" or "capacity" button 11:06:24 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> there you should see what is actually loaded 11:06:43 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Thanks... :P 11:06:47 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I meant the %-graph :P 11:06:55 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hm... 11:07:03 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> just enable the setting? :) 11:07:12 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Wont show if visibility is turned off 11:07:18 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> X-button 11:07:25 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> visibility of what? 11:07:34 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Items? :D 11:07:57 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hm 11:07:58 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> no idea :D 11:08:24 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> Food & Goods Drop is final station or transfer? 11:08:40 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Everything but grain is final 11:08:44 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ok 11:11:48 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> from now on the supply transfer stations are named: " SL?? Supply transfer" 11:11:55 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> notice the space in beginning 11:12:01 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ok 11:12:18 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Any order on the numbers or just grab them as they are available? 11:12:59 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> same as SLH 11:13:04 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> we need more grain :D 11:13:09 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> bakery is not doing anything 11:13:15 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ^ 11:14:07 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> i can't even find bakery 11:14:15 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> now 11:14:16 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> brewerey 11:14:19 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> is nearby 11:17:07 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002F584: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002F584.png 11:17:56 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> do trainyard trains share orders with trains that only go between two secondarys? 11:18:04 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> yes 11:18:05 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> for example b+b <-> food drop 11:18:25 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> k 11:18:29 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> we do need 2 types of farm supply trains 11:18:38 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> since there are 2 pickups 11:19:14 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> well have to leave 11:19:16 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> cya later 11:19:19 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> bye 11:19:20 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hf 11:20:29 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hm jond1sti 11:20:38 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> look at SL01 Supply Transfer 11:21:09 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> how is Punfingbridge Scrapmetal / Waste supposed to get supplies? 11:21:16 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> by RV never the less? 11:21:23 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> because of the distance i'm asking 11:21:36 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> or train-based feeder? 11:22:17 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> that's up to V but i guess it doesn't matter even it was a TL2 train or something.. 11:22:32 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> yeah thats what i think 11:22:37 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ill ask him later 11:23:34 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ok so now bye :D 11:23:38 <PublicServer> *** gr00vaLisTic has left the game (leaving) 11:24:02 <PublicServer> *** Drunkzilla has left the game (leaving) 11:26:00 *** Drunkzilla has quit IRC 11:32:09 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002F178: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002F178.png 11:47:11 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000017AB: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000017AB.png 11:57:39 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> scrap metal trains' orders need updating 12:01:33 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> so what do you listen to whilst playing? 12:01:42 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> silence 12:01:59 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> no music at all? 12:02:13 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00001FD8: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00001FD8.png 12:02:20 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> yep 12:03:08 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> fair nuff 12:04:11 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 12:04:11 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 12:07:32 *** Thorinbur has joined #openttdcoop 12:07:32 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> we need some oil connected too 12:07:54 <Thorinbur> comming for help! 12:07:59 <Thorinbur> !passsword 12:08:03 <Thorinbur> !password 12:08:03 <PublicServer> Thorinbur: hobbit 12:08:21 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> wohoo 12:08:25 <PublicServer> *** Thorinbur joined the game 12:09:08 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> damn... still acnt build RVs 12:09:30 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> i'm off for now 12:09:31 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> bye 12:09:35 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> laters 12:09:38 <PublicServer> *** jond1sti has joined spectators 12:09:45 <gr00vy> !password 12:09:45 <PublicServer> gr00vy: hobbit 12:09:59 <PublicServer> *** gr00vaLisTic joined the game 12:10:01 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> re 12:11:46 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> why do you add "non-stop" to orders for scrap-metal trains for example? 12:12:20 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> non-stop means that if there is another station on the way train would pass it without stopping 12:12:27 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> it is somewhere on wiki 12:12:34 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> just stops it from stopping at an unintened station 12:12:48 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> exactly 12:13:04 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and simce stations are sometimes used as panelty... 12:13:15 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> so we should use it for any trains here? 12:13:16 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> you can set in advanced settings 12:13:18 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> or when a train gets lost :-s 12:13:29 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> so every new order would be non-stop by defoult 12:13:56 <KenjiE20> @quickstart 12:13:58 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 12:14:00 <KenjiE20> ^ should be in there 12:14:05 <Ammler> or you could read our guides... 12:14:12 <KenjiE20> :D 12:14:14 <Ammler> yeah, :-P 12:14:32 <Ammler> iirc, it is bold... 12:14:50 <Ammler> !rules 12:14:50 <PublicServer> Ammler: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Ruleset 12:16:20 <Thorinbur> KenjiE20: Why noone except V, van build buildings for RVs? 12:16:30 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> we can 12:16:50 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> you just have to enable the option that buildings are available even if no vehicles are available for it 12:17:05 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> it's because no vehicles are allowed -> RV setting = 0 12:17:11 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> max vehicles 12:17:15 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002F07B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002F07B.png 12:17:32 <KenjiE20> ^ what he said 12:17:36 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> would be great if someone was possible to change that 12:18:10 <gr00vy> in the game max road vehicles is set to = 0 12:18:14 <Thorinbur> hmm... i was thinking about that, but didn't expect serer limit will grey-out button too 12:18:28 <KenjiE20> Thorinbur: read what he said 12:18:33 <KenjiE20> it's an option you can toggle 12:18:37 <gr00vy> could any of you fix that? 12:18:49 <KenjiE20> !rcon set max_roadveh 100 12:18:49 <gr00vy> as RV buildings without vehicles are lame 12:18:49 <Thorinbur> We need RVs KenjiE20, so could you set limit a little higher? 12:18:49 <gr00vy> :> 12:18:57 <gr00vy> thx 12:20:52 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop 12:20:52 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 12:22:49 <KenjiE20> !playercount 12:22:49 <PublicServer> KenjiE20: Number of players: 5 12:22:53 <KenjiE20> hm 12:31:43 <PublicServer> *** gr00vaLisTic has left the game (leaving) 12:32:17 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00024FD4: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00024FD4.png 12:37:17 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 12:43:52 *** Pirate87 has joined #openttdcoop 12:47:19 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000257CD: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000257CD.png 12:48:46 <PublicServer> *** Giddorah has left the game (connection lost) 12:50:31 *** Giddorah_ has joined #openttdcoop 12:54:39 *** Giddorah has quit IRC 12:57:24 <Giddorah_> !password 12:57:24 <PublicServer> Giddorah_: oddity 12:57:37 <PublicServer> *** Giddorah joined the game 12:58:26 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Oel ngati kameie Giddorah 13:00:47 *** ziza has joined #openttdcoop 13:00:51 <ziza> !password 13:00:51 <PublicServer> ziza: oddity 13:01:15 <PublicServer> *** ZiZa joined the game 13:02:21 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000263D7: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000263D7.png 13:05:04 *** Pirate87 has quit IRC 13:06:44 *** Phazorx has joined #openttdcoop 13:06:44 *** Webster sets mode: +o Phazorx 13:08:44 *** Pirate87 has joined #openttdcoop 13:10:02 <Pirate87> !screen 13:10:05 <PublicServer> *** Pirate87 made screenshot at 000197C4: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000197C4.png 13:10:22 *** dih has joined #openttdcoop 13:10:27 <dih> @sean timm* 13:10:30 <dih> @seen timm* 13:10:30 <Webster> dih: Timmaexx was last seen in #openttdcoop 4 days, 14 hours, 11 minutes, and 45 seconds ago: <Timmaexx> the transrapid 13:10:40 <dih> gnah 13:10:43 <dih> hello ladies :-P 13:10:59 <Pirate87> !password 13:10:59 <PublicServer> Pirate87: pantry 13:11:10 <PublicServer> *** Pirate87 joined the game 13:11:20 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol 13:11:23 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Pirate... 13:11:32 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> heh 13:11:54 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> hi 13:11:57 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> hi 13:12:07 *** dih has left #openttdcoop 13:12:24 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> i see we have some trains 13:16:07 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Bridges to Flarnpool aren't split... Does it matter much? 13:16:32 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> At SLH03 13:17:23 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003359E: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0003359E.png 13:17:27 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> not much 13:17:39 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> but i try to double them when i can 13:17:40 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> do we have only one food drop ? 13:18:03 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> hmmm not sure 13:18:35 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> looks like it 13:18:53 <V453000> yes one food drop only 13:18:56 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> nope 13:19:02 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> no! 13:19:06 <V453000> lol? 13:19:08 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> General Store 13:19:10 <V453000> B and? 13:19:15 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> so A 13:19:19 <V453000> no 13:19:26 <V453000> Brewery produces food 13:19:30 <V453000> along with bakery 13:19:36 <V453000> only the town there accepts food 13:19:43 <V453000> B only 13:20:01 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> B is brewery and Bakery 13:20:21 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> it Produces food! 13:20:25 <V453000> ok vice versa 13:20:35 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> so B is not a dorp 13:20:38 <V453000> OMG 13:20:40 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> A only 13:20:44 <V453000> good 13:21:02 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ok 13:21:04 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ... 13:21:09 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> B General Store 13:21:20 <V453000> loll :) 13:21:27 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Sorry thought general store was 13:21:28 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> A 13:21:58 <V453000> well it doensnt matter in the end 13:22:02 <V453000> one food drop. period 13:22:08 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Wait 13:22:14 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Commie is here 13:22:29 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> ? 13:22:34 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> yea 13:22:41 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oh haha 13:22:48 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Noticed u were online 13:23:20 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> hey! 13:23:25 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> we have RV! 13:23:32 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Nice :) 13:23:55 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Yet another SLH Done 13:30:12 *** OwenS`Phone has joined #openttdcoop 13:30:13 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v OwenS`Phone 13:32:07 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol... i think cat's like technology. in the past they were sleeping behing furnances. 13:32:25 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00032C9B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00032C9B.png 13:32:35 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> now my cat is sleeping near my laptop where there is exhaust of graphic card... 13:32:56 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> your laptop gets warm plaing OpenTTD ? 13:33:05 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> not that warm 13:33:13 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> not hot 13:33:33 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> maybe you should clean it 13:33:35 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop 13:33:42 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> it's normal 13:33:49 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> it will always produce heat 13:34:28 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> did it always get a little hot ? even when it was new ? 13:34:37 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> because then it's normal 13:34:54 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> otherwise u should consider cleaning the radiator 13:34:59 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> it doesnt need cleaning 13:35:03 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> trust me 13:35:11 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> ok 13:36:27 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> At last... 13:36:41 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> what ? 13:36:59 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> SLH06 and nearby industries 13:37:04 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i finished west part 13:37:23 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> whatever i did i always lacked one tile 13:37:40 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> ain't that a bitch :) 13:38:00 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> exactly 13:39:54 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> now i have to check my GC temp as my cat partially clogged exhaust... 13:40:45 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> i had a cat who liked sleeping behind my pc 13:40:57 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> or on top of it :) 13:41:07 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> on on CRT:P 13:41:25 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> now with all those LCDs cat's are poor :P 13:41:38 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> everything becames so small you can't climb on it! 13:42:45 <KenjiE20> Thorinbur: I bet it does 13:43:00 <KenjiE20> I always find dog hairs on the fan spindles 13:43:06 <KenjiE20> lord knows how they got there 13:43:21 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> from the air i suppose 13:43:33 <CommieSi> i have to dust mine out once every 3months or so 13:43:57 <CommieSi> apparaently stockings over the fan make a good filter 13:44:16 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> Giddorah: can i build a SL near your 'Testing Grounds' ? 13:44:47 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Aight... It's funny how looks and brains aren't connected most of the time :) 13:44:57 <KenjiE20> I'd have to put the entire laptop in one 13:44:59 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Me and my girlfriend laughed about someone on TV not knowing who Nelson Mandela is 13:44:59 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> heh... cats ear now covers part of the chat... 13:45:09 <KenjiE20> there's no real intake on it 13:45:10 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> And I saw her laughing but being a bit unsure herself 13:45:17 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> So I asked: You do know who Nelson Mandela is, right? 13:45:28 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> And she responds: Yeah! That Indian dude right? 13:45:36 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> And I thought for a while: Mahatma Ghandi? 13:45:41 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> And she says: Maybe not 13:45:53 <KenjiE20> -_- 13:46:24 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> The whole situation is just hilarious :) Writing it in text doesn't do it justice :P 13:47:27 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000250D5: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000250D5.png 13:47:32 <Chris_Booth> have you 3 been to bed? 13:47:40 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Who? 13:47:53 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> I was 13:48:13 <Chris_Booth> CommieSi, Thorinbur and who else was on when i loged off 13:48:21 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> V. 13:48:25 <Chris_Booth> grooy wanst it 13:48:34 <Chris_Booth> ooh and V 13:48:36 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> lol yea 13:48:39 <Chris_Booth> but V isnt here 13:49:12 <Chris_Booth> !info 13:49:12 <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: #:1(Orange) Company Name: '#openttdcoop PSG 178' Year Founded: 1970 Money: 3967214202 Loan: 0 Value: 4005701085 (T:172, R:19, P:8, S:0) unprotected 13:49:57 <V453000> whats going on? 13:50:19 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> ? 13:50:24 <V453000> nvm 13:50:24 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ^^ 13:50:29 <Chris_Booth> we are conspireing to kill you V 13:50:35 <V453000> okay 13:50:38 <V453000> agreed 13:51:05 <Chris_Booth> tell me the typing V doesnt highlioght you 13:51:10 <V453000> I hope the instrument will be either alcohol overload or music volume destruction 13:51:21 <V453000> sure it doesnt 13:51:38 <Chris_Booth> !password 13:51:38 <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: nobler 13:51:48 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 13:51:54 <V453000> noobler? :) 13:52:23 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> i hate u guys for those slow bridges 13:52:29 <Chris_Booth> no I am noble 13:52:32 <V453000> :D 13:52:42 <Chris_Booth> and i am more noble than the last person to join 13:52:47 <Chris_Booth> so I am nobler 13:52:55 *** KenjiE20 sets mode: +b *!*Emzzzz*@* 13:53:07 <V453000> emzz? :D 13:53:15 <KenjiE20> #openttd 13:53:54 <KenjiE20> oh you're not there 13:53:58 <KenjiE20> spambot 13:54:05 <Chris_Booth> aah i see 13:54:21 <Chris_Booth> i left openttd channel as i never spoke in it 13:54:34 <Chris_Booth> and was jut one of those annoying people that sat there allday 13:54:39 <PublicServer> *** Giddorah has left the game (connection lost) 13:54:42 <KenjiE20> I was refering to V, but whatever 13:54:50 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> yeah! 13:54:54 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> prio works! 13:54:54 <V453000> ? :D 13:55:04 <KenjiE20> @V453000 | emzz? :D 13:55:07 <KenjiE20> that 13:55:18 <V453000> is that a nick or .. ? 13:55:19 <V453000> :) 13:55:29 <V453000> in Czech we call so UFO and aliens :D 13:58:34 *** Giddorah_ has quit IRC 14:01:04 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> this game is going to be screwed later on 14:01:17 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> why? 14:01:33 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> trains slow to 190km/h on a 1 tile climb 14:01:55 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> we have some very steep climbs where trains slow to arround 150 km/h 14:02:01 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> that will cause jams 14:02:14 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> unless you guys start to build crawler lanes 14:02:29 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003452A: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0003452A.png 14:04:40 *** Giddorah has joined #openttdcoop 14:06:07 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> You said you need oil so Rafinery won't die 14:08:21 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 14:09:04 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> Chris Booth: guess we'll have too 14:09:10 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> *to 14:09:21 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i think we will 14:09:30 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> or have massivly wide network 14:09:44 <Thorinbur> @wiki crawler 14:09:46 <Webster> Search results for "crawler" - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Special:Search?go=Go&search=crawler 14:10:02 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> this only apllies to full trains 14:10:09 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> Thorinbur: there will not be a wiki on crawler lanes 14:10:17 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> we have never used them befor 14:10:17 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> hmm...what create bauxite in this set? 14:10:18 <Thorinbur> No examples on wiki 14:10:19 <KenjiE20> @wikipedia "crawler lane" 14:10:20 <Webster> Climbing lane - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=crawler%20lane 14:10:25 <KenjiE20> :) 14:12:06 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> hmmm so additional line or some kind of serpentine? 14:12:15 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> additional line 14:12:41 <PublicServer> *** ZiZa has left the game (leaving) 14:12:43 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> only on up hill sections 14:12:51 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> they would need to be synced 14:12:56 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> oh my god... 14:13:07 <PublicServer> *** CommieSi has left the game (connection lost) 14:13:25 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> hmmm on the other hand... 14:13:27 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and split 5 tiles befor the climb 14:13:38 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and then merge when trains reach fullspeed again 14:13:50 <CommieSi> !password 14:13:50 <PublicServer> CommieSi: panged 14:14:06 <PublicServer> *** CommieSi joined the game 14:16:28 <CommieSi> Guys, why is there no bauxite mine in this set we're using? 14:17:31 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00034C36: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00034C36.png 14:19:06 <V453000> comieSi: firs is still under development and this is quite old version 14:19:44 <CommieSi> oh dear 14:20:24 <CommieSi> as we kind of need it 14:20:47 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> added first goods trains ^^ 14:20:56 <CommieSi> but we'll just have to do with deeing the alu plant with scrap metal 14:21:09 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> added first oil train 14:21:26 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> hate OTTD... 14:21:35 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Wastes so much of my precious time 14:21:48 <V453000> lol 14:22:12 <PublicServer> *** jond1sti has joined company #1 14:22:36 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> Thorinbur: there are 2 drops for goods 14:22:52 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> where else? 14:23:10 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> fert.plant + fsd drop 14:23:18 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> there is only one on the cargo board... 14:24:04 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> there reads 'if cargo isnt here then add it' 14:24:30 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> not so easy to find all drops 14:24:35 <Giddorah> !password 14:24:35 <PublicServer> Giddorah: fifths 14:24:46 <PublicServer> * Chris Booth is off noe 14:24:47 <PublicServer> *** Giddorah joined the game 14:24:49 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (leaving) 14:25:57 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ok i see you changed orders already 14:26:01 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> yes 14:31:44 *** Intexon has joined #openttdcoop 14:32:33 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00004C57: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00004C57.png 14:33:18 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> hmmm 14:38:40 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol... 14:40:48 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol... 14:40:53 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> you drowned it 14:40:54 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> what just happened to the steel mill.... 14:41:34 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> i drowned it 14:42:21 <V453000> lol 14:42:28 <V453000> you drowned an industry? :D 14:42:38 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> not me 14:42:43 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> don't know who:P 14:42:46 <V453000> I see it 14:42:51 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> it was too far from drop :( 14:42:52 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> where ? 14:43:02 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> but now we're happy with the new one 14:43:17 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> ok inbound coal to that now 14:43:36 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> my... 14:43:45 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> exactly at my sign... 14:43:53 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> stupid stupid factory 14:45:10 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i have an idea for OTTD: Setting where you set what ind can spawn (primaries, secondaries, both, none) 14:45:49 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> I am now playing interesting single player game: 14:46:01 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> I started with NO industries 14:46:22 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> than i fast forwarded to first secondry spawn 14:46:53 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and connected poping primaries 14:47:12 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> now we have steel trains running 14:47:16 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> when second secondary of the same type spawned 14:47:18 <PublicServer> *** Intexon joined the game 14:47:22 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i magic buldozed it 14:47:35 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00031836: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00031836.png 14:47:53 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> when i get bored i spawn lacking primary via searching 14:48:14 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> got really nice layout already 14:48:29 <V453000> :) 14:48:32 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> some lanes became MLs, 14:48:43 <V453000> care to share some of your savegames? :) 14:48:46 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> actually how many industries we have producing goods? 14:48:56 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> this is hmmm... Back to the roots gametype? 14:49:04 <V453000> any 14:49:11 <KenjiE20> thor no 14:49:16 <gr00vy> you should fine some help on http://tt-foundry.com/sets/FIRS/schema/industries i think 14:49:18 <Webster> Title: TT Foundry: Pixel Creations for Open Transport Tycoon (at tt-foundry.com) 14:49:24 *** mixrin has joined #openttdcoop 14:49:33 <KenjiE20> @b2b this isn't 14:49:33 <Webster> KenjiE20: (b2b <no arguments>) -- Returns full name and reference url (if defined) 14:49:35 <gr00vy> @ Thorinbur 14:49:38 <KenjiE20> bleh 14:49:40 <KenjiE20> @b2b 14:49:40 <Webster> b2b: Back To Basics gamestyle, see also: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Gametype:Back_to_Basics 14:49:52 <jondisti> which economy this is? 14:50:04 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Yeah thats what i was looking for, Back to Basics 14:50:04 <Chris_Booth> standard 14:50:29 <Chris_Booth> jondisti: no parms loaded 14:50:55 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i will post save somewhere on my wiki page later 14:51:15 <V453000> k I will check 14:51:19 <V453000> always interested :) 14:51:48 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I've got some savegames too :) 14:52:11 <V453000> I am interested in everyone 14:52:15 <KenjiE20> Thorinbur: https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTUwMTUwMjk <-- that way you don't have to whine at an admin for removal 14:52:16 <Webster> Title: Dropbox - You're invited to join Dropbox! - Online backup, file sync and sharing made easy. (at www.dropbox.com) 14:53:11 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> we need a lot of trains for engineering supplies 14:53:49 <Thorinbur> hmmm.. I wanted to past it on my shared server, and post only link on viki 14:53:52 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> I am going to prospect some iron ore as we have one in a aterrible place 14:54:06 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> i'm off again for a while 14:54:13 <PublicServer> *** jond1sti has joined spectators 14:56:58 <KenjiE20> that would work 14:57:07 <KenjiE20> @thor 14:57:12 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Train running costs are still higher than income :P 14:57:46 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> does supplying engineering /farm supplies increase output? 14:58:29 <PublicServer> *** Thorinbur has left the game (leaving) 15:02:37 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003483B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0003483B.png 15:02:58 <Ammler> something bad about dropbox, no KDE support 15:03:20 <Ammler> or no suse and no src.rpm 15:03:50 <Ammler> but the idea is nice 15:04:09 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> Is anyone worling on SL08? 15:04:46 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> yes they are 15:06:05 <Ammler> KenjiE20: at least you get another 250 MB ;-) 15:06:14 <KenjiE20> heh 15:06:38 <KenjiE20> you can use the command line on though 15:06:51 <KenjiE20> there's a whole slew of user tricks in the wiki 15:09:19 <Ammler> well, I have my webspace, was just wondering... 15:09:57 <Thorinbur> karczma.vipserv.org/OTTD/Saves 15:10:04 <Thorinbur> http://karczma.vipserv.org/OTTD/Saves 15:10:05 <Webster> Title: Index of /OTTD/Saves (at karczma.vipserv.org) 15:10:09 <Thorinbur> for now 15:10:15 <Thorinbur> This is that game 15:10:22 <Thorinbur> I will link it on wiki later 15:11:16 <Ammler> he, it does automatically detect timezone: US Alaska :-o 15:11:19 <Thorinbur> Still very early stage, but i like how naturally Secondaries spreded and hills created great tracks layout 15:14:18 *** pugi has quit IRC 15:15:43 <Thorinbur> !password 15:15:43 <PublicServer> Thorinbur: pigpen 15:16:00 <PublicServer> *** Thorinbur joined the game 15:17:12 <PublicServer> *** Pirate87 has joined spectators 15:17:33 *** V453000 has quit IRC 15:17:33 *** Ammler has quit IRC 15:17:33 *** Hirundo has quit IRC 15:17:34 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 15:17:40 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000257AE: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000257AE.png 15:19:29 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> wooah who started builidng by me.. 15:19:33 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> me 15:19:46 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i am the one who placed feel free to finish :P 15:19:47 <PublicServer> *** jond1sti has joined company #1 15:19:54 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> :-) 15:20:01 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> just connecting iron ore mine 15:20:36 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> if some track is making problems -> remove:P 15:21:29 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> i want to nuke dronding hall but will resist 15:22:01 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> try now 15:22:02 *** Hirundo has joined #openttdcoop 15:22:17 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> leave it i'll build round 15:22:32 *** V453000 has joined #openttdcoop 15:22:32 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o V453000 15:22:49 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i was just enabling city building demolishing:P 15:23:01 <jondisti> V453000: we have 3 pickups for goods and 2 places accepting them. how to order trains? 15:23:43 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i think each pickup got own fleet witch drops to both drops 15:24:02 *** Ammler has joined #openttdcoop 15:24:02 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Ammler 15:25:01 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Do we build statues in cities? (a) 15:25:08 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> no 15:25:22 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> they are undemolshable :P 15:25:40 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> want to bride city council: 15:25:51 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> demolish nearby treas and replant them 15:25:56 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Well... They make the stations more efficient? :) 15:25:57 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> *trees 15:26:16 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> statues? 15:26:25 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Thor: Yes 15:26:38 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> first time hearing that 15:26:53 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> That way you can get stations to 100% (atleast 99%) raitng 15:26:56 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> rating 15:27:37 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> Giddorah: ratings aren't that important 15:27:44 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oh? 15:27:55 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Thought they had big effects on industry production? 15:28:26 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> might be but main thing is to get nice network here :) 15:28:45 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> do we have some enginnering suplies prodused already? 15:29:02 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> *produced 15:29:22 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> yes 15:29:31 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> how do we connect them? 15:29:48 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> we make 2-3 trains for each area and send to pickup? 15:29:55 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> nope 15:30:07 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> (this would flood pickup 15:30:08 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> 1 group of trains 15:31:13 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> or add our area to order list 15:31:14 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> of existing trains 15:31:14 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> i think FIRs doesn't work by just chucking a plan at it :-P 15:31:35 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ?? 15:31:54 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> why Farm suplies trains doesn't have Full Load order? 15:32:02 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> first we need to find out how many main industries need engineering supplies 15:32:21 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> you mean secondaries? 15:32:24 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> yes 15:32:42 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000256BB: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000256BB.png 15:32:51 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> so maybe create two groups? 15:33:06 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> for secondaries, and primaries transfers 15:33:28 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> i think 1 would be enough 15:33:39 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 15:33:44 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> because we have 1 pickup 15:35:04 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i don't know: My idea is: You created a area, got nice transfer station for supplies: go to the Farm/Engineering suplies group and add your new transfer station at the end of the orders list 15:35:23 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> yes 15:35:40 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> so why not full load? 15:35:49 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Aight... 1 up 1 flat doesn't work on loaded trains 15:35:56 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> who said not full load? 15:35:57 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> If you hadn't already noticed 15:36:01 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> .... 15:36:06 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> look back at irc 15:36:29 <Thorinbur> why Farm suplies trains doesn't have Full Load order? 15:36:33 <Thorinbur> <jond1sti> first we need to find out how many main industries need engineering supplies 15:36:41 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> that wasn't answer to your question :P 15:36:59 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol... 15:37:07 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> so no full load is a mistake 15:37:13 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> as i thought 15:37:14 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> yes 15:37:33 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> we need also two groups of farm supplies 15:37:51 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> one for primaries, one for secondaries? 15:38:12 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> we have 2 different industries producing them 15:38:20 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> oh 15:39:20 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> ok... msh07b doesn't need engineering supplies 15:40:12 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Hmmm... Is positive income something you want to achieve? 15:40:13 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> neither MSH05 15:40:26 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> Giddorah: depends who you ask 15:40:33 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> You? 15:40:36 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> i don't care about that :P 15:40:39 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Aight :) 15:40:52 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> i think money in this game is totally irrelevant 15:40:57 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> We've put ourselves against the wall here as FIRs encourages gradual growth 15:41:03 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Would be fun to stop all airline-traffic once train-building starts and try to make the company not go bankrupt :) 15:42:50 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> So... Do we rebuild to fix all climb-issues? 15:43:01 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> how bad is it? 15:43:16 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> 140km/h full load train 15:43:32 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> So atleast rebuild climbs where trains are loaded 15:43:59 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Well... If that matters :) I assume trains are gonna start stockpiling at climbs and start a deadlock 15:44:37 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> i'm trying to figure out how to distribute engineering supplies... 15:44:54 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I'll be back in a sec... Gotto go pick up some stuff on the store 15:45:06 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Then I can fix some climb-issues (If someone doesn't beat me to it) 15:45:29 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Slows down to 98km/h even 15:47:29 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol 15:47:39 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> those RV's are avesome! 15:47:44 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002569E: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002569E.png 15:49:21 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol 15:49:24 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> leave it 15:49:33 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> let it pickupfirst 15:49:37 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> one thing is funny 15:50:02 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Why is a bulldozer pulling wagons? 15:50:06 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> can they crash into itself? 15:50:23 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> no 15:50:24 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> there's no straight connection from engineering supplies pickup to glass works drop 15:50:32 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol 15:50:44 <V453000> bypass 15:53:07 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> SLH06 doesn't have supply transfer? 15:53:37 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> now it has 15:58:22 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 15:58:56 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> There was one mistake made: 15:59:07 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> ? 15:59:24 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> when we were founding secondaries person who found one should write down what it accepts at the Cargo Board 15:59:43 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> now we are not sure if it is complete 16:00:11 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> and we have multiple industries producing some cargos 16:00:19 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> that should be added on that board too 16:00:38 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> this is not the problem 16:00:51 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> well maybe it is 16:00:54 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> but smaller one 16:01:04 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> we do have one problem now :P 16:01:21 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> farm supplies pickup MS CP is too far from machine shop 16:01:42 <jondisti> someone please give us magic bulldozer! 16:02:11 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> btw, now we have engineering supplies being distributed 16:02:46 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002589E: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002589E.png 16:03:24 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> almost 250 trains they are visible:P 16:03:33 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> something is moving at last 16:03:47 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop 16:05:16 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> we need to focus on the engineering supplies chain atm 16:06:33 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> what about farm supplies? 16:07:40 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i know 16:07:40 <gr00vy> !password 16:07:40 <PublicServer> gr00vy: fusses 16:07:53 <PublicServer> *** gr00vaLisTic joined the game 16:10:18 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> no 16:10:23 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> build a exit 16:10:30 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> not entrance 16:10:43 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> who are you talking to? 16:11:24 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Himself obviously 16:11:30 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Thor... Maybe it's time you took a timeout? 16:11:51 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i was talking to someone who was building nearby] 16:12:02 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> we need 2 stations there 16:12:33 *** ziza has quit IRC 16:13:29 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> fuck it 16:13:34 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> full trains slow down on any slope 16:14:55 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> fuel oil pickup is jammed 16:15:02 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> need more oli for the raffinery 16:15:03 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> now it's not 16:15:08 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> no* 16:15:17 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> that's no jam :P 16:15:34 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hmm...ok 16:15:48 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> then call it "looking busy without doing anything" 16:15:50 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> :> 16:16:09 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> but anyways the trains are standing still there :) 16:16:41 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> gr00vaLisTic: Do you know full load order? 16:16:48 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> i just flooded trains there 16:16:53 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> there will be more production one day 16:17:32 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> no ships allowed? 16:17:45 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> indeed... 16:17:46 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> nice 16:17:48 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001BE55: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001BE55.png 16:17:49 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ^ 16:17:57 <gr00vy> V453000 16:17:58 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> there are ships.. 16:18:05 <gr00vy> hm 16:18:08 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Go to Advanced settings 16:18:09 <V453000> hm? 16:18:11 <gr00vy> max ships = 0 16:18:12 <gr00vy> ^^ 16:18:14 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> interface 16:18:17 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ah 16:18:23 <V453000> ??? what do you need ships for 16:18:28 <gr00vy> more oil :) 16:18:41 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> just station walk 16:18:44 <V453000> ^ 16:18:51 <gr00vy> lol 16:18:52 <gr00vy> cheating! 16:18:52 <gr00vy> ^^ 16:19:13 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> so i put a station in the middle of a sea?:D 16:19:40 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> 1 tile of station 16:19:45 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> sure 16:20:23 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ugly anyway :D 16:20:27 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> but ok 16:24:09 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 16:24:19 <PublicServer> *** gr00vaLisTic has left the game (leaving) 16:27:03 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop 16:28:17 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Whoever Create that orders: USE Full load at Pickup 16:28:34 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> where? 16:28:48 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> I think that was CommieSi 16:29:12 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Drononghall Milk and Droninghall Livestock 16:29:15 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> does any secondary industry require farm supplies 16:29:44 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> already fixed orders 16:29:49 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> but it's not first time 16:29:53 <PublicServer> <CommieSi> sorry i cocked it 16:32:50 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00022F52: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00022F52.png 16:33:52 *** OwenS has joined #openttdcoop 16:33:52 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v OwenS 16:37:03 <^Spike^> !info 16:37:03 <PublicServer> ^Spike^: #:1(Orange) Company Name: '#openttdcoop PSG 178' Year Founded: 1970 Money: 3998113584 Loan: 0 Value: 4055399105 (T:266, R:20, P:8, S:0) unprotected 16:37:22 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> ok now we have farm supplies running from FSD 16:38:56 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> who made SL02 supply transfer? 16:40:56 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> Thorinbur: there's no need for separated farm supply transfer 16:44:51 <jondisti> ^Spike^: can you turn magic bulldozer on for a sec? 16:45:21 *** Zulan has joined #openttdcoop 16:47:02 <PublicServer> *** CommieSi has left the game (leaving) 16:47:52 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00023B54: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00023B54.png 16:49:53 *** Drunkzilla has joined #openttdcoop 16:50:02 <Drunkzilla> !password 16:50:02 <PublicServer> Drunkzilla: falter 16:50:39 <PublicServer> *** Drunkzilla joined the game 16:51:15 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> I know there is no need for that 16:51:23 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> but thought it would be better 16:51:56 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> because of the distance between industries 16:52:03 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> no 16:52:15 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> it just making things more complicated 16:59:11 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Wow! Free public beta of Ruse! 16:59:50 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> hmmm i wonder if i would be able to stay in game 16:59:55 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> while downloading beta 17:00:41 *** thgergo has joined #openttdcoop 17:00:55 <PublicServer> *** jond1sti has joined spectators 17:02:54 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00024197: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00024197.png 17:03:36 *** whitequark has joined #openttdcoop 17:08:24 *** CommieSi has quit IRC 17:12:33 <PublicServer> *** jond1sti has joined company #1 17:17:56 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001EE62: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001EE62.png 17:20:16 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> we don't have train for parts 17:21:50 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> wha??? 17:22:12 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Why there are 4500 Pax waiting at Brewery food pickup?? 17:22:31 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> o lol! 17:22:34 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i know why 17:22:37 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> hahahahahaha 17:23:21 <PublicServer> *** Pirate87 has left the game (connection lost) 17:25:46 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> bah i don't have time 17:26:11 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> needs to be discovered how many groups of parts trains we need 17:26:18 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> multiple pickups and drops 17:26:25 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> same with packaging... 17:26:30 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> bye 17:26:33 <PublicServer> *** jond1sti has joined spectators 17:26:41 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> all drops are listed for packafging 17:27:06 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> that wasn't my point you know :P 17:27:09 <bobstay> !password 17:27:09 <PublicServer> bobstay: napkin 17:27:17 <PublicServer> *** bobstay joined the game 17:27:21 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> I know... 17:27:35 <bobstay> yay, trains! 17:27:37 <PublicServer> *** Thorinbur has left the game (leaving) 17:31:02 *** Pirate87 has quit IRC 17:32:41 *** Dred_furst has joined #openttdcoop 17:32:59 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003D655: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0003D655.png 17:33:51 <Chris_Booth> aternoon all 17:35:16 <Chris_Booth> !password 17:35:16 <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: hugest 17:35:25 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 17:39:09 <PublicServer> *** bobstay has left the game (leaving) 17:41:15 *** Dred_furst has quit IRC 17:43:49 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (connection lost) 17:43:49 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 17:45:44 <gr00vy> !players 17:45:46 <PublicServer> gr00vy: Client 1061 is Drunkzilla, a spectator 17:45:46 <PublicServer> gr00vy: Client 1054 (Orange) is Giddorah, in company 1 (#openttdcoop PSG 178) 17:45:46 <PublicServer> gr00vy: Client 1038 is jond1sti, a spectator 17:45:46 <PublicServer> gr00vy: Client 1056 is Intexon, a spectator 17:45:52 <gr00vy> !password 17:45:52 <PublicServer> gr00vy: hugest 17:46:05 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 17:46:05 <PublicServer> *** gr00vaLisTic joined the game 17:47:31 <PublicServer> *** Drunkzilla has left the game (leaving) 17:48:01 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001F3B0: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001F3B0.png 17:59:54 *** Doomah has joined #openttdcoop 18:03:03 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000B8B1: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000B8B1.png 18:04:44 <PublicServer> *** Giddorah has left the game (connection lost) 18:04:45 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 18:06:06 <PublicServer> *** gr00vaLisTic has left the game (leaving) 18:06:25 *** Giddorah_ has joined #openttdcoop 18:08:57 *** Pirate87 has joined #openttdcoop 18:09:04 *** Giddorah has quit IRC 18:09:41 <Pirate87> !password 18:09:41 <PublicServer> Pirate87: toured 18:09:52 <PublicServer> *** Pirate87 joined the game 18:18:05 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000B1B6: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000B1B6.png 18:22:26 <XeryusTC> !password 18:22:26 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: haggle 18:22:35 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game 18:23:45 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has left the game (connection lost) 18:47:23 *** welterde has quit IRC 18:47:49 *** welterde has joined #openttdcoop 18:48:11 <Drunkzilla> Hi, can someone please tell me how many trains can 'classic' SLH handle? I have LLRR ML and LR SL.. got ~125 trains going from SL to ML and I am getting jams often.. there are no trains coming straight throught ML (there were ~130 trains, but I had to make separate lines for them). 18:48:37 <KenjiE20> short answer; no 18:49:19 <Ammler> but 130 isn't much 18:49:23 <Drunkzilla> I could just assume, that SLH can handle ~100 trains without jams.. but I know that my SLH might not be built well or there.. so I just wanted to know how many trains are passing throught your SLHs 18:49:49 <Drunkzilla> KenjiE20: It's not yes/no question I guess :) 18:49:58 <Ammler> around 200 trains per line 18:50:07 <KenjiE20> sure it is, Can is a yes/no question 18:50:27 <Drunkzilla> Ah.. sorry.. of course.. from that point of view.. you are right :) 18:50:55 <KenjiE20> and the short answer to that is no, since there's not enough info 18:51:06 <Drunkzilla> Ammler: so when you have ie. LLRR ml and LR sl .. you can have 800+400 trains going through SLH? 18:51:06 <KenjiE20> ^ being the slightly longer answer 18:51:21 <Ammler> so a slh should be able to handle (2+2+1+1)*200 18:51:54 <Ammler> Drunkzilla: yep :-) 18:52:03 <Drunkzilla> Hm... well.. than I have to have some hard fails in my layout :d 18:52:27 <Ammler> you forget something :-P 18:52:36 <Drunkzilla> TL is 4 ? 18:52:41 <XeryusTC> throughput of your SLH totally depends on how good your joiners are 18:52:49 <Ammler> that too, but mostly the time frame 18:53:00 <XeryusTC> the main bottleneck in any point of the network is were lines mix 18:53:28 <XeryusTC> unless you manage to time every single train so that it does not need to wait for other trains when it joins a line 18:54:04 <XeryusTC> so basicly you need to build good joiners 18:54:25 <XeryusTC> and have trains which accelerate quite fast so hold ups are very uncommon 18:54:40 <Drunkzilla> well.. it's my first SLH.. built by image from wiki in basic networking section... and I built it on mountain... so it's really badly built I guess. 18:55:02 <Drunkzilla> XeryusTC: ah.. ok.. so it won't be as easy as I thought :d 18:55:33 <Ammler> easiest is to join our ps and build the hub there 18:55:40 <XeryusTC> which kind of train are you using? (the chimera is a very bad engine for once) 18:55:45 <Ammler> then you can see, how it works and you get feedback 18:55:49 <XeryusTC> starters* 18:56:10 <KenjiE20> or grab games from the archive, and see what's been built before 18:56:24 <Drunkzilla> XeryusTC: Turner Turbo, TL4 18:57:11 <Drunkzilla> Ammler: I am watching your games, reading wiki and all I can find.. but I didn't want to join your games and start building because I don't feel good enough to play with you :) 18:57:30 <XeryusTC> Ammler: btw, on the month old topic of the wiki rewrite, maybe we should have something more along the lines of the openttd wiki :P 18:58:33 <XeryusTC> Turbo should do fine btw :o 18:58:54 <XeryusTC> havent played with vanilla ttd trains in tropic or arctic for a long time though 18:59:20 <Chris_Booth> Drunkzilla: if you join the server games and build people will help you 18:59:20 <Thorinbur> Drunkzilla: its on single player game? 18:59:26 <Chris_Booth> and then you will get better 18:59:27 <Drunkzilla> XeryusTC: how can I see which train has better acceleration.. I know that more power = more capacity (vagons) while keeping maximum speed... but I haven't found any exact explanation about it... like how to count power, acceleration, tl together... 18:59:54 <XeryusTC> TE is basicly which involves acceleration the most 18:59:59 <Chris_Booth> Drunkzilla: accleration depends on a few factors 19:00:06 <Drunkzilla> Thorinbur: yes, I started it on multi, but It ended already I think.. so I continue in single 19:00:12 <Chris_Booth> tractive effort, HP wieght and drag 19:00:35 <Chris_Booth> the hight the TE the faster the acceleration 19:00:39 <Thorinbur> you can share save game i would be happy to look at you SLH. Maybe i will find something 19:00:45 <Chris_Booth> the high the HP the high the top speed 19:00:56 <Chris_Booth> wieght a drag slow the trains down 19:01:11 <Drunkzilla> Chris_Booth: well.. I will join your games soon I hope.. I found that V453000 is Czech too.. so I already talked to him and he might help me 19:01:40 <Drunkzilla> Thorinbur: ok, i will upload it.. 19:01:41 <Chris_Booth> V453000: will turn you insane with his made designs 19:01:50 <Thorinbur> We all are happy to help. Don't be afraid to came 19:02:15 <Chris_Booth> Thorinbur: *We all are happy to help. Don't be afraid to ask 19:02:44 <V453000> Chris Booth: he shouldn't have been told that :D 19:02:44 <Drunkzilla> Chris_Booth: yes thats what I thought.. but I didn't know any 'exact equations' .. I was just like.. 'well.. more power = better = handling more cargo faster) 19:02:52 <V453000> awww 19:02:57 <V453000> :D 19:03:00 <Drunkzilla> V453000: hi :) 19:03:04 <V453000> hey there 19:03:36 <Thorinbur> to come in 19:03:40 <Chris_Booth> Drunkzilla: for pax more power = better 19:03:53 <Chris_Booth> but for heavy traind you need a high TE + high power 19:04:10 <Drunkzilla> Chris_Booth: ah...ok, thank you 19:04:10 <Chris_Booth> otherwise trains will be painfuly slow to accelerate 19:04:40 <Chris_Booth> ok dinner time 19:04:42 <Chris_Booth> bbl all 19:04:44 <V453000> cya 19:04:47 <Drunkzilla> cya 19:05:14 <Drunkzilla> Thorinbur: http://www.dampe.cz/desert01, 2020-10-27.sav 19:05:37 <Drunkzilla> eh.. well.. I didn't rename it.. so you will have to copy paste it :) 19:06:20 <Thorinbur> is there easy way of replacing trains, or i have to stop every single one in depot, build newer loco, clone orders, and tranfser carts 19:06:50 <XeryusTC> use autoreplace 19:07:04 <Drunkzilla> Btw: there are no prios... I tried to build them in another savegame... but then rewrite it.. and I didn't built them again..They are not needed now anyway, because I made separate rails for ML tracks (goods) 19:07:08 <XeryusTC> accessible from the train list :P 19:08:06 <Drunkzilla> Thorinbur: And the SLH is quite messy now, because I was trying to add more tracks to avoid jams... 19:08:29 <Thorinbur> There are a lot of CL's there 19:08:53 <Thorinbur> you should avoid tight 90deg turns 19:08:58 <Drunkzilla> It's built on mountain.. so it was quite complicated.. I tried to do it without TF 19:08:58 <Thorinbur> @cl 19:08:58 <Webster> cl: Curve Length, mostly used to describe how big a curve must be to let pass trains with a certain TL at full speed, see also: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Max_Curve_Speed 19:09:27 <Drunkzilla> but I guess that I just took more than I can do as a beginner :) 19:09:48 <Thorinbur> hmmm... some tunnels need doubling 19:10:23 <Thorinbur> for example that loooong tunnel? 19:10:30 <Thorinbur> it makes hudge signal gap 19:10:52 <Thorinbur> So trains wait until another one will leave tunel on the other side 19:10:54 <Drunkzilla> I also think, that I might reduce jams if I make the west merge later... 19:11:04 <Drunkzilla> merge at sl.. 19:11:16 <Thorinbur> there are way more important problems 19:11:26 <Thorinbur> whole thing needs complete rebuild 19:11:28 <Thorinbur> 1. CL 19:11:29 <Drunkzilla> yeah.. that long tunnel is last addition... it's like 2nd 'additional' way to avoid jams... 19:11:39 <Thorinbur> 2. double the tunells/ bridges 19:11:52 <Thorinbur> @gap 4 19:11:52 <Webster> Thorinbur: For Trainlength of 4: < 10 needs 2, 11 - 16 needs 3, 17 - 22 needs 4. 19:12:08 <OwenS> !password 19:12:09 <PublicServer> OwenS: lobbed 19:12:35 <PublicServer> *** Owen joined the game 19:12:50 <PublicServer> *** Owen has left the game (leaving) 19:12:58 <OwenS> Wait... you're not talking about stuff in game O_o 19:13:02 <Drunkzilla> Thorinbur: ok, I guess that I will clear that mountain and start building that SLH from scratch 19:13:05 <Thorinbur> other thing that muuuulti tunel west form SLH is desynced 19:13:21 <Drunkzilla> OwenS: right.. he's watching my singlegame save :d 19:13:25 <Thorinbur> make it multiplayer server and give me IP :P 19:13:51 <Thorinbur> So i could watch and point out CL's and possible problems 19:14:03 <Drunkzilla> It won't work I guess.. I am at my university's dormitory and we have blocked too much stuff.. you won't be able to join me 19:14:17 <Drunkzilla> But I can try of course (when I will find how) :d 19:14:43 <Thorinbur> hmm... 19:14:48 <Thorinbur> than you join me:P 19:15:00 <Thorinbur> and than i will send you save game when you finish 19:15:17 <Drunkzilla> just a sec... 19:15:22 <Drunkzilla> First we try it 19:15:48 <OwenS> http://s0.2mdn.net/viewad/2675424/728x90_02_blk.gif <-- Oh dear god... political adverts on The Register 19:15:52 <Drunkzilla> should I just use my classic IP from ipconfig or there is some special info in ttd? 19:16:29 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 19:16:48 <Drunkzilla> Haven't ever made server in TT.. so I absolutely don't know :) 19:16:57 <Thorinbur> i think IP itself would do unless you are behind router and you are not forwarded 19:17:25 <Drunkzilla> I am.. 19:17:38 <Drunkzilla> So it won't work.. As I though :x 19:17:38 <Thorinbur> let's give it a try 19:17:41 <Drunkzilla> ok.. 19:32:29 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 19:37:05 <V453000> @sml 19:37:05 <Webster> sml: Shift Main Line, see also: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Shift_Mainlines 19:43:58 <Chris_Booth> mmh bk 19:44:26 <Thorinbur> @cl 19:44:26 <Webster> cl: Curve Length, mostly used to describe how big a curve must be to let pass trains with a certain TL at full speed, see also: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Max_Curve_Speed 19:44:39 <Thorinbur> how to check Cl for given Tl and speed 19:44:50 <Thorinbur> i think there was a command for that 19:45:01 <Chris_Booth> @calcl 19:45:15 <Chris_Booth> @clcalc 19:45:15 <Webster> Chris_Booth: (clcalc <railtype> [<tilt>] <cl|km/h>) -- For a number <30 this calculates the speed for <cl> on <railtype>. For any other numbers, this calculates the CL required for <railtype> travelling at <km/h>, assuming TL is small enough. [<tilt>] will apply tilt bonuses to the calculation. 19:45:23 <Chris_Booth> that one Thorinbur 19:45:58 <Thorinbur> @clcalc erail 160 19:45:58 <Webster> Thorinbur: Required CL for rail at 160km/h is 3 (5 half tiles) or TL 19:46:24 <Drunkzilla> so if TL is > 3, than CL should = TL ? 19:46:32 <Chris_Booth> yes 19:46:41 <Drunkzilla> ok 19:47:26 <Chris_Booth> !password 19:47:26 <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: accost 19:47:37 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 19:55:08 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (leaving) 20:00:52 *** Intexon has quit IRC 20:12:39 *** Zuu has joined #openttdcoop 20:14:02 *** einKarl has quit IRC 20:14:13 *** ziza has joined #openttdcoop 20:14:16 <ziza> !password 20:14:17 <PublicServer> ziza: flecks 20:14:39 <PublicServer> *** ZiZa joined the game 20:15:18 <Thorinbur> @gap 4 20:15:19 <Webster> Thorinbur: For Trainlength of 4: < 10 needs 2, 11 - 16 needs 3, 17 - 22 needs 4. 20:25:38 <bobstay> is that... signal spacings? 20:28:15 <bobstay> @gap 20:28:15 <Webster> bobstay: (gap <trainlength> [<split>]) -- Returns minimum and maximum signal gap sizes for 2,3 and 4 linesplits with <trainlength>. If <spilt> is given it will return the the gap sizes for <split> (+/-) 1. 20:28:24 <bobstay> ah, thought so 20:28:40 <Phazorx> bobstay: standard signal spacing is one tile (number 2 in settings) 20:28:51 <bobstay> right 20:28:53 <Phazorx> but if for some reasons it can not be maintained on one lane 20:29:02 <Phazorx> you need to add extra lanes to compensate 20:29:29 <bobstay> like with bridges and tunnels? 20:29:31 <KenjiE20> other way around isn't it? 20:29:39 <Phazorx> bobstay: yup 20:29:41 <KenjiE20> gap of 1, spacing of 2 (ui) 20:30:06 <Phazorx> that;s hat i typed KenjiE20 isnt it ? 20:30:30 <KenjiE20> "signal spacing is one tile" <- not quite 20:31:26 <KenjiE20> !playercount 20:31:26 <PublicServer> KenjiE20: Number of players: 4 20:31:31 <KenjiE20> !players 20:31:32 <PublicServer> KenjiE20: Client 1067 is Pirate87, a spectator 20:31:33 <PublicServer> KenjiE20: Client 1073 is ZiZa, a spectator 20:31:33 <PublicServer> KenjiE20: Client 1038 is jond1sti, a spectator 20:31:33 <PublicServer> KenjiE20: Client 1056 is Intexon, a spectator 20:31:36 <KenjiE20> hmmm 20:31:42 <KenjiE20> anyone mind if I do an update? 20:31:54 <bobstay> so... when it says "<10 needs 2", that means if you split your line into two, you can have signal gap of up to 10 tiles? 20:32:07 <KenjiE20> up to and including 20:32:20 <KenjiE20> 10 is the theshold value 20:32:33 <KenjiE20> and is probably debatable which side it lands on 20:33:05 <bobstay> sure 20:33:27 <KenjiE20> 'and including' is the normal read though 20:34:19 <KenjiE20> but clearly if the line is low yield, you might not need as (m)any splits 20:36:07 <KenjiE20> what was I doing? 20:36:10 <KenjiE20> oh right, update 20:42:42 <PublicServer> *** ZiZa has left the game (leaving) 20:43:32 <PublicServer> Saving game... 20:43:35 <PublicServer> Server closed down by admin 20:43:38 <PublicServer> Server has exited 20:43:39 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 20:44:17 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 20:44:17 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 20:44:17 <PublicServer> Loading default savegame 20:44:17 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 20:44:17 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #178 (r19386) | STAGE: Building | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart & !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | Welcome to the depths of insanity" 20:44:23 <KenjiE20> !info 20:44:31 <PublicServer> KenjiE20: server_pw besets 20:44:31 <PublicServer> KenjiE20: alias ap_cmd "%+ ; echo donecapture" 20:44:31 <PublicServer> KenjiE20: debug_level "0" 20:44:31 <PublicServer> KenjiE20: server_info 20:44:31 <PublicServer> KenjiE20: dbg: [net] [core] starting network... 20:44:31 <PublicServer> KenjiE20: dbg: [net] [udp] initializing listeners 20:44:31 <PublicServer> KenjiE20: dbg: [net] [core] network online, multiplayer available 20:44:33 <PublicServer> KenjiE20: dbg: [net] Detected broadcast addresses: 20:44:33 <PublicServer> KenjiE20: dbg: [net] 0) 91.198.87.255 20:44:35 <PublicServer> KenjiE20: dbg: [net] 1) 10.0.0.255 20:44:35 <PublicServer> KenjiE20: dbg: [net] [udp] closed listeners 20:44:37 <PublicServer> KenjiE20: dbg: [net] [udp] initializing listeners 20:44:37 <PublicServer> KenjiE20: dbg: [net] [tcp] listening on IPv4 port 91.198.87.142:3979 (IPv4) 20:44:38 <KenjiE20> grr 20:44:39 <PublicServer> KenjiE20: dbg: [net] [udp] listening on IPv4 port 91.198.87.142:3979 (IPv4) 20:44:39 <PublicServer> KenjiE20: dbg: [net] [udp] advertising to master server 20:44:41 <PublicServer> KenjiE20: dbg: [net] [udp] listening on IPv4 port 91.198.87.142:0 (IPv4) 20:44:41 <PublicServer> KenjiE20: dbg: [net] [udp] queried from 89.176.6.73 20:44:43 <PublicServer> KenjiE20: dbg: [net] [udp] received new session key from master server (IPv4) 20:44:43 <PublicServer> KenjiE20: *** Game paused (not enough players) 20:44:45 <PublicServer> KenjiE20: Current/maximum clients: 0/255 20:44:45 <PublicServer> KenjiE20: Current/maximum companies: 1/ 1 20:44:47 <PublicServer> KenjiE20: Current/maximum spectators: 0/10 20:44:47 <PublicServer> KenjiE20: #:1(Orange) Company Name: '#openttdcoop PSG 178' Year Founded: 1970 Money: 4032685911 Loan: 0 Value: 4071274606 (T:289, R:22, P:8, S:0) unprotected 20:44:59 <KenjiE20> slow start up is slow 20:45:17 <Ammler> :-) 20:48:51 <KenjiE20> we now return to our regularly scheduled insanity 20:48:59 * KenjiE20 fwibbles off 20:51:13 *** Intexon has joined #openttdcoop 20:54:08 <hylje> fwibble 20:54:11 <hylje> blubber 20:54:20 <^Spike^> who forgot to give kenji his pills... 20:54:21 * ^Spike^ sighs 20:54:25 <^Spike^> :) 20:54:35 <KenjiE20> fwibble 21:00:05 *** Progman has quit IRC 21:00:27 *** Intexon has quit IRC 21:06:43 *** Intexon has joined #openttdcoop 21:10:26 *** Pirate_87 has joined #openttdcoop 21:13:44 *** Intexon has quit IRC 21:17:34 *** Pirate87 has quit IRC 21:18:20 <Thorinbur> heh Updating as well 21:20:10 <OwenS> Heh... I've taken to pronouncing "www" as "wibble wibble wibble" 21:20:47 <hylje> haha 21:21:08 <bobstay> that will get you some fun looks. 21:21:23 <Thorinbur> !password 21:21:23 <PublicServer> Thorinbur: topped 21:22:58 <Phazorx> what's so good about 19386? 21:23:23 <KenjiE20> it's new 21:23:33 <KenjiE20> also '386' 21:23:38 <KenjiE20> :) 21:23:41 <Phazorx> most new things are new in ways they suck :) 21:25:07 <SmatZ> :) @ 386 21:25:20 <Phazorx> 386 is so welcome back to 1984 21:25:42 <SmatZ> also OTTD needs testing, it was quite unstable lately 21:25:48 <SmatZ> but it should be fixed now 21:27:27 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 21:28:06 *** SmatZ sets mode: +b Chris_Booth!*@* 21:28:08 *** Chris_Booth was kicked by SmatZ (User terminated!) 21:32:37 <PeterT> Did he do something? 21:32:50 <bobstay> !download lin 21:32:50 <PublicServer> bobstay: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19386/openttd-trunk-r19386-linux-generic-i686.tar.bz2 21:33:10 <SmatZ> PeterT: nope, do I need a reason? 21:33:26 <PeterT> I didn't ask for a reason 21:33:56 *** SmatZ sets mode: -b Chris_Booth!*@* 21:33:59 <PeterT> SmatZ: No, banning for fun is err....fun 21:34:21 <SmatZ> don't tell me, PeterT... 21:34:40 <OwenS> PeterT: You should have been in .pro 21:34:49 <OwenS> Which makes me think... QDB-worthy? 21:35:44 <KenjiE20> meh 21:36:16 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop 21:36:28 <bobstay> !password 21:36:28 <PublicServer> bobstay: rebind 21:37:42 *** Yexo has quit IRC 21:37:59 *** Yexo has joined #openttdcoop 21:43:40 <Seberoth> hi all 21:44:17 <PublicServer> *** Thorinbur has left the game (leaving) 21:44:18 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 21:45:15 <KenjiE20> O.o 21:46:04 <KenjiE20> oh great 21:46:09 <KenjiE20> AP+ broke 21:47:49 <OwenS> ? 21:48:50 <bobstay> oops. 21:48:50 <KenjiE20> "can't read "::players": no such variablecan't read "::players": no such variable" .. blah 21:50:44 <bobstay> Newb question: If I want to use FIRS to get the new industries, is there a train set I can use to keep all the standard TT locomotives and rolling stock, but just add the necessary rolling stock for the new cargo types? 21:50:57 <KenjiE20> old wagons, new cargo? 21:52:03 <bobstay> well, keeping it the same as much as possible, just adding what's needed to transport the new cargo types 21:52:16 <KenjiE20> no, "Old Wagons New Cargo" 21:52:26 <bobstay> oh, it's name 21:52:27 <bobstay> sorry :) 21:52:28 <KenjiE20> look at BaNaNaS 21:52:28 <SmatZ> :) 21:52:30 <KenjiE20> :P 21:52:57 <Ammler> SmatZ: any idea, which commit to revert? 21:53:08 <Ammler> if possible at all 21:53:45 <SmatZ> Ammler: what did/does that variable mean? 21:54:03 <PeterT> OwenS: What happened there? 21:54:15 <SmatZ> I can't remember it 21:54:27 <OwenS> PeterT: Frenemies ;-) 21:55:14 <Ammler> players read the console output of players 21:59:03 <Ammler> I guess, it is something else 21:59:03 <SmatZ> well 21:59:08 <SmatZ> it must be bug in ap+ 21:59:13 <SmatZ> "players" still works in OTTD 21:59:16 <Ammler> yes :-) 21:59:31 <OwenS> It's not changed format? 21:59:48 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 21:59:48 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 21:59:48 <PublicServer> Starting new game: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)' 21:59:48 <PublicServer> Landscape: normal 21:59:48 <PublicServer> Dimensions: 512x512 21:59:48 <PublicServer> Starting year: 1980 21:59:48 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 21:59:49 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #178 (r19386) | STAGE: Building | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart & !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | Welcome to the depths of insanity" 22:00:08 <KenjiE20> I blame me 22:00:17 <KenjiE20> I also blame smatz for loading the wrong save 22:00:22 <Ammler> I blame the save 22:00:25 <SmatZ> wut? 22:00:30 <SmatZ> I touched nothing 22:00:30 <PublicServer> Server closed down by admin 22:00:32 <PublicServer> Server has exited 22:00:32 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 22:00:39 <KenjiE20> okay Ammler then 22:00:48 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 22:00:48 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 22:00:48 <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)' 22:00:48 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 22:00:48 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #178 (r19386) | STAGE: Building | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart & !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | Welcome to the depths of insanity" 22:00:49 <KenjiE20> Ammler: maybe my early !info broke it? 22:01:04 <Ammler> !info 22:01:04 <PublicServer> Ammler: #:1(Orange) Company Name: '#openttdcoop PSG 178' Year Founded: 1970 Money: 4032685911 Loan: 0 Value: 4071274606 (T:289, R:22, P:8, S:0) unprotected 22:01:22 <Ammler> yes, no !commands before the company info appears on the console 22:01:24 <KenjiE20> I caught it before it had even started at all 22:01:35 <SmatZ> does still !list_signs break things? 22:01:44 <KenjiE20> we really, need a re-write controller 22:01:45 <Ammler> !rcon list_signs 22:01:45 <PublicServer> Ammler: 00021B64 !! MESSAGE BOARD !! 22:01:45 <PublicServer> Ammler: 00021C65 The Gap 22:01:45 <PublicServer> Ammler: 00021D66 You Need to Bridge the gap 22:01:45 <PublicServer> Ammler: 00021E67 between 2 nations 22:01:45 <PublicServer> Ammler: 00021F68 that have just been at war 22:01:47 <PublicServer> Ammler: 00022069 the following treaty will 22:01:47 <PublicServer> Ammler: 0002216A reward the company that will 22:01:49 <PublicServer> Ammler: 0002226B supply passenger and 22:01:49 <PublicServer> Ammler: 0002236C goods services to the best 22:01:51 <PublicServer> Ammler: 0002246D option. Things to remeber: 22:01:51 <PublicServer> Ammler: you have 515 more messages 22:01:53 * KenjiE20 goes back to code 22:01:56 <SmatZ> :) 22:02:03 <Ammler> worked :-) 22:02:10 <KenjiE20> someone join 22:02:10 <SmatZ> !rcon server_pw 22:02:10 <PublicServer> SmatZ: Current value for 'server_password' is: 'poodle' 22:02:21 <hylje> poodle 22:02:25 <SmatZ> :) 22:02:28 <KenjiE20> pooooooooooooooooooodle 22:02:28 <Ammler> wuh 22:02:35 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ joined the game 22:02:42 <KenjiE20> it works 22:02:47 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> ;-) 22:02:48 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ has left the game (leaving) 22:02:48 <KenjiE20> silly AP 22:02:54 <OwenS> KenjiE20: I thought Avignon was supposed to effectively be a rewrite? :p 22:03:06 <KenjiE20> it's still in tcl though :P 22:03:10 <PublicServer> Server closed down by admin 22:03:12 <PublicServer> Server has exited 22:03:12 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 22:03:14 <OwenS> KenjiE20: And? 22:03:20 * KenjiE20 doesn't get tcl 22:03:38 * KenjiE20 doesn't get python that much either tbh, but more than tcl 22:03:38 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 22:03:38 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 22:03:38 <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)' 22:03:38 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 22:03:38 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #178 (r19386) | STAGE: Building | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart & !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | Welcome to the depths of insanity" 22:04:01 <Seberoth> hi Ammler 22:04:42 <Ammler> Hello Seberoth :-) 22:07:59 *** Giddorah has joined #openttdcoop 22:08:34 *** ODM has quit IRC 22:11:18 *** Giddorah_ has quit IRC 22:11:56 *** IceGuest_75 has joined #openttdcoop 22:12:24 <IceGuest_75> @quickstart 22:12:27 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 22:12:34 <IceGuest_75> !help 22:12:34 <PublicServer> IceGuest_75: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands 22:13:44 <IceGuest_75> !password 22:13:44 <PublicServer> IceGuest_75: pagoda 22:14:59 *** thgergo has quit IRC 22:20:04 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 22:22:48 <PublicServer> *** Wagonmaster General has left the game (connection lost) 22:23:05 <IceGuest_75> !password 22:23:05 <PublicServer> IceGuest_75: rapist 22:23:35 <PublicServer> *** Wagonmaster General joined the game 22:23:35 <KenjiE20> IceGuest_75: you may prefer an nick we can refer to you with 22:31:09 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 22:31:40 *** IceGuest_75 has quit IRC 22:31:47 <PublicServer> *** Wagonmaster General has left the game (leaving) 22:40:00 <KenjiE20> or quit, that works too 22:45:50 <V453000> not very communicative there 22:45:59 <Thorinbur> ^^ 22:46:53 <Thorinbur> To be or not to be... (at tomorows lecture) this is a question! 22:47:48 <Thorinbur> I don't want to wake up at 6am! 22:48:00 <V453000> whoa 22:48:08 <V453000> 6 a.m. is deadly indeed 22:48:19 *** VictorOfSweden has joined #openttdcoop 22:48:20 <PublicServer> *** Zuuu joined the game 22:48:22 <Thorinbur> 1:30h in the bus... 22:48:24 <Thorinbur> one way 22:48:47 <Thorinbur> i would like to have such turbobus like this one at your timer in my city ^^ 22:49:01 <V453000> :) 22:49:06 <PublicServer> <Zuuu> Ammler: See PWKEY :-) 22:49:46 <Thorinbur> !password 22:49:46 <PublicServer> Thorinbur: plazas 22:50:22 <PublicServer> *** Thorinbur joined the game 22:50:46 <PublicServer> *** Zuuu has left the game (leaving) 22:51:11 <Ammler> oi 22:51:21 <Ammler> Zuu: joined without asking for pw? 22:51:29 <Zuu> Yep 22:51:36 <PublicServer> *** VictorOfSweden joined the game 22:51:41 <Zuu> OTTDAU asked for it 22:52:09 <PublicServer> *** Thorinbur has left the game (leaving) 22:52:19 <Zuu> You can give an URL for even company number if you wish (when I release the update) 22:52:51 <PublicServer> *** Thorinbur has left the game (connection lost) 22:53:01 <PublicServer> *** Zuuu has left the game (connection lost) 22:53:58 <Thorinbur> hmmm this is not the public version that automaticaly connects is it? 22:55:43 <Zuu> Yep, this is a development version. When it gets released you will still have to be given an URL from Ammler or someelse that contains the password. 22:56:27 <Zuu> There will be a new place in the edit installation dialog where you can set this URL. 22:56:46 <Thorinbur> great^^ 22:57:38 <PublicServer> *** VictorOfSweden has left the game (leaving) 22:58:39 <Thorinbur> btw: what is the purpose of those shifting passwds? 22:59:46 <KenjiE20> griefer protection amongst others 23:00:02 <Zuu> To stop people from just entering without reading a bit. This keeps away most of the people who's mostly enjoying destroying what others has built. 23:00:43 <Ammler> Thorinbur: join public competive servers with stable versions and you know, what we fear... ;-) 23:01:02 <Thorinbur> hmm... shouldnt than be enought to change passwd like every game? 23:01:21 <Thorinbur> and put in for example wiki? 23:01:23 <Ammler> the password shift is simple to have the possibilty to ban someone 23:01:37 <Zuu> IIRC, one of the reasons was also to get people on IRC for easier communication. 23:01:43 <Thorinbur> ok 23:01:45 <Ammler> Thorinbur: someone joins and sabotage, how you ban him then? 23:01:51 <Thorinbur> this is good reason 23:02:21 <V453000> and by the way now you can see if there is a new password or not when joining - because if there is a new screenshot, also a pw is changed :) at least it worked for me this way so far 23:02:26 <Ammler> and of course, it gets people to read our wiki :-) 23:02:30 <V453000> :) 23:02:46 <PublicServer> *** Zuuu has left the game (connection lost) 23:02:51 <Ammler> yes, webcam is linked to pw change 23:03:00 <Thorinbur> ^^ 23:03:29 <Ammler> and once joined, you can switch to spec 23:03:33 <Ammler> for afk 23:03:44 <V453000> well I often disconnect because of connection lost ;) 23:03:51 <V453000> so I check pw often then :) 23:04:41 <Thorinbur> damn... i forgot I turned off my ruse Download when i was hosting a server... I hoped to test it today see if me laptop will handle it. 23:04:56 <Thorinbur> No i have 20% downloaded only 23:10:09 *** Thorinbur has quit IRC 23:10:18 *** Thorinbur has joined #openttdcoop 23:11:13 *** pugi has quit IRC 23:15:02 <Thorinbur> Do you really use teamspeak? Or it is cos it is? 23:15:36 <V453000> it isnt 23:15:50 <V453000> or ... is there a revival new one? 23:17:04 *** VictorOfSweden has quit IRC 23:17:25 *** grim4593 has joined #openttdcoop 23:17:36 <Thorinbur> I jut found adress (again) on wiki 23:17:53 <Thorinbur> but is seams unlikely that you realy use it much 23:18:03 <Thorinbur> so i asked 23:18:49 *** Zulan has quit IRC 23:19:57 <V453000> I think it is unoperational 23:20:01 <V453000> it is old 23:20:58 <KenjiE20> @wiki teamspeak 23:21:01 <Webster> Teamspeak - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Special:Search?go=Go&search=teamspeak 23:21:05 <KenjiE20> ^ note the tagged page 23:25:16 *** ziza has quit IRC 23:26:36 <OwenS> I remember joining a teamspeak convo, once, back in ~2006? 23:30:30 <Ammler> we sould like to setup something like that again... 23:30:49 <Ammler> but the "someone" doing it is missing :-) 23:30:59 <KenjiE20> yea, because clients don't have enough bandwidth issues already :P 23:31:01 *** Progman has quit IRC 23:31:13 <Ammler> he, indeed 23:31:35 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 23:31:35 <Ammler> well, we used it for the last coopetion map 23:31:53 <Ammler> Yexo: and me 23:32:15 <Ammler> it is easier than writing... 23:32:25 <Ammler> but my English is too bad ;-) 23:32:39 <Yexo> yes, that coopetition game was fun :) 23:33:56 * KenjiE20 would never use voip 23:34:04 <KenjiE20> not on this line anyway 23:34:16 <Thorinbur> Is there a limit for nick identification trials? 23:34:18 <SmatZ> I was using void at 56k modem... 23:34:26 <Thorinbur> ^^ 23:34:32 <SmatZ> *voip 23:35:13 *** Thorinbur has quit IRC 23:35:23 <SmatZ> hahahaahahahahahahaah 23:35:36 <SmatZ> Thorinbur: yes, there is 23:35:39 <Ammler> hehe 23:35:42 *** Thorinbur has joined #openttdcoop 23:35:49 <Thorinbur> yes there is:P 23:35:49 <SmatZ> Thorinbur: yes, there is 23:36:08 <Thorinbur> Just found out myself 23:36:09 <Ammler> Thorinbur: it has send pw function 23:36:28 <Ammler> or recovery 23:37:03 <Thorinbur> I will try to send pw to email I think i missspelled password while registering 23:37:17 <Thorinbur> I hope i didn't do the same with email :P 23:37:45 <Ammler> well, there is #oftc for that matter :-) 23:37:54 <Ammler> case* 23:40:40 <Thorinbur> 1268350760:22E7489D4F52ADDF5013B817E95697B003D82750 OTTDLihuhuupu 23:41:03 <Thorinbur> f... 23:41:06 <Thorinbur> lol... 23:41:11 <SmatZ> nice password 23:41:16 <Thorinbur> now i have to change couple of pass 23:41:21 <SmatZ> :D 23:41:25 <Thorinbur> stupid EOL in ail 23:41:26 <Thorinbur> mail 23:42:44 <Ammler> yeah, I learned to do /msg jobs and such in a private channel ;-) 23:43:12 <Thorinbur> ... 23:43:12 <Thorinbur> l 23:43:16 <Thorinbur> lesson learned 23:43:19 <Thorinbur> but too late:P 23:44:19 <OwenS> Ammler: I can probably offer VOIP hosting for special occasions 23:44:34 <KenjiE20> ^ is why I let KeePass handle my pwd vault, and if I accidently paste one, it's either a single location pwd, or the generic, 'don't care' one 23:46:47 <OwenS> KenjiE20: It was worse when I accidentally typed my server password into Kopete. Cause, y'know, *nix doesn't echo anything to indicate you're typing in the right window 23:47:47 <KenjiE20> pHeRGQBjst6HNdlM2Ref <-- my pwds all look like this these days 23:47:52 <KenjiE20> (that's a new one) 23:48:23 <Thorinbur> I liked my old pass, but new one is even stronger (previous one lacked some numbers ^^) 23:49:03 <Ammler> Thorinbur: don't fool us, we know you still use the old :-P 23:49:10 <OwenS> KenjiE20: Kinda reminds me of my 32-char hex WPA key. Thats awful to type in on a phone which forces you to use the "Alphanumeric" keyboard for it... 23:49:22 <KenjiE20> heh 23:49:29 <Thorinbur> Try to log in ito my account on ottdcoop webpage:P 23:49:42 <KenjiE20> I think my WPA-PSK2 key is 64bit 23:49:54 <Ammler> I use passphrase there 23:50:17 <Ammler> a nice sentence... :-) 23:50:26 <KenjiE20> wibble 23:51:10 <OwenS> Gah Nokia, release v40... 23:52:03 <V453000> u sure it wasnt v45... ? 23:52:58 <OwenS> V453000: 5800XM Firmware v40 23:53:29 <KenjiE20> not v45.3? 23:53:37 <V453000> for example :) 23:53:41 <KenjiE20> :P 23:54:52 <Thorinbur> \j NickServ 23:54:56 <Thorinbur> hmmm 23:55:45 <Thorinbur> how to open priv channel with NickServ? 23:56:11 <KenjiE20> /query 23:56:55 <Thorinbur> ok it works thanks 23:59:49 *** Thorinbur has quit IRC 23:59:54 *** Thorinbur has joined #openttdcoop