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00:01:30 <PeterT> V453000: what modules do you use for your BNC? 00:01:51 <V453000> modules? 00:02:01 <V453000> bnc stands for bouncer client I suppose 00:02:11 * PeterT sighs 00:02:21 <PeterT> Do you even know how to navigate the webpanel? 00:02:27 <PeterT> Do you have a webpanel? 00:02:37 <PeterT> salieri.openttdcoop.org:6667 00:02:42 <thomashauk> !password 00:02:42 <PublicServer> thomashauk: somber 00:02:55 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 00:02:56 <leg3nd> should Stage not be set to voting ? 00:02:57 <PublicServer> *** thomashauk joined the game 00:02:58 <leg3nd> Btw 00:03:08 <PeterT> @stage Planning and Voting 00:03:09 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #180 (r19523) | STAGE: Planning and Voting | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart & !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | Welcome to the depths of insanity" 00:03:10 <V453000> ah now I know what you talking about 00:03:21 <leg3nd> thanks peter. 00:03:21 <PeterT> do you use any modules? 00:03:47 <V453000> away chansaver keepnick aaand flood 00:04:04 <PeterT> Floood? 00:04:10 <KenjiE20> @undo 00:04:10 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #180 (r19523) | STAGE: Planning | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart & !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | Welcome to the depths of insanity" 00:04:14 <KenjiE20> who made you a member? 00:04:16 <V453000> ctcpflood 00:04:21 <PeterT> ah 00:04:55 <V453000> Kenji: I would have done it if he didnt 00:05:03 <V453000> this time he is right 00:05:08 <KenjiE20> doesn't matter 00:05:20 <V453000> hmm 00:05:21 <V453000> okay 00:05:29 <V453000> @stage Planning and Voting 00:05:29 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #180 (r19523) | STAGE: Planning and Voting | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart & !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | Welcome to the depths of insanity" 00:05:29 <PeterT> Kenji just likes the pride of doing it himself...I don't blame him 00:06:03 <PublicServer> *** thomashauk has left the game (leaving) 00:06:03 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 00:06:04 <PeterT> but if it is planning and voting time, who cares who sets it. I mean really 00:06:12 <PeterT> also... 00:06:14 <PeterT> @seen Chris* 00:06:14 <Webster> PeterT: Chris* could be Chris_Booth (2 hours, 44 minutes, and 20 seconds ago), Chris_Booth_ (3 weeks, 0 days, 23 hours, 3 minutes, and 28 seconds ago), Chris_Booth{Bored} (6 weeks, 0 days, 21 hours, 26 minutes, and 37 seconds ago), or ChrisHC (45 weeks, 6 days, 10 hours, 10 minutes, and 41 seconds ago) 00:06:22 <KenjiE20> the ONLY reason topic module isn't locked down, is some members aren't registered with webster, and don't currently need to 00:06:29 <KenjiE20> don't ruin it 00:07:11 <KenjiE20> who cares who sets it <-- pretty much every op 00:07:54 <PeterT> :-P 00:08:38 <KenjiE20> @kban PeterT 600 seriously 00:08:38 *** Webster sets mode: +b *!~PeterT@rdlbnc.com 00:08:39 *** PeterT was kicked by Webster (seriously) 00:08:45 <KenjiE20> uch 00:09:49 <KenjiE20> I know he doesn't mean to it, but I'm getting bored of it 00:10:37 <V453000> I know 00:11:21 <V453000> he just behaves ... well ... as he does :/ 00:17:22 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 00:18:38 *** Webster sets mode: -b *!~PeterT@rdlbnc.com 00:18:39 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop 00:19:23 <PeterT> V453000: what client do you use? 00:20:24 <PeterT> apparently one that doesn't have proper highlights 00:21:24 <Ammler> good night all 00:21:41 <PeterT> Enjoy sleeping times, Ammler 00:22:49 <leg3nd> why is it that when ever i decide to go sleep i end up on oenttdcoop.org 00:22:54 <leg3nd> and cant sleep.. 00:25:46 *** Benom has joined #openttdcoop 00:26:20 <PeterT> good night 00:30:05 *** Benko has quit IRC 00:41:57 *** Zuu has quit IRC 00:43:12 *** leg3n has joined #openttdcoop 00:44:59 *** V4530000 has joined #openttdcoop 00:45:25 *** Hirundo has quit IRC 00:45:25 *** V453000 has quit IRC 00:45:25 *** V4530000 is now known as V453000 00:45:29 *** Hirundo has joined #openttdcoop 00:45:33 *** planetmaker has quit IRC 00:46:07 *** pm has joined #openttdcoop 00:46:07 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o pm 00:47:44 *** leg has joined #openttdcoop 00:50:15 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 00:50:50 *** leg3nd has quit IRC 00:50:59 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 00:53:20 *** leg3n has quit IRC 01:03:00 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 01:20:13 *** Benko has joined #openttdcoop 01:22:45 *** Fuco has quit IRC 01:26:55 *** Benom has quit IRC 01:32:04 *** RockerTimmy has quit IRC 01:44:01 *** thomashauk has left #openttdcoop 01:48:29 <Pirate87> !password 01:48:29 <PublicServer> Pirate87: summit 01:49:44 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 01:49:46 <PublicServer> *** Pirate87 joined the game 01:50:45 <PublicServer> *** Pirate87 has left the game (leaving) 01:50:45 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 01:54:06 *** roboboy has joined #openttdcoop 01:55:26 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000059C2: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000059C2.png 02:18:02 *** Dred_furst has quit IRC 02:31:52 *** Pirate87 has quit IRC 02:40:24 *** Phazorx has left #openttdcoop 02:46:03 *** roboboy has quit IRC 03:03:45 *** streetb has quit IRC 03:05:40 *** gr00vy has quit IRC 03:05:55 *** gr00vy has joined #openttdcoop 03:16:45 *** roboboy has joined #openttdcoop 03:33:39 <PublicServer> *** Giddorah has left the game (connection lost) 03:41:52 *** Benom has joined #openttdcoop 03:47:05 *** Benko has quit IRC 03:58:13 *** roboboy has quit IRC 04:09:00 *** roboboy has joined #openttdcoop 04:31:23 *** sparr has quit IRC 04:42:13 *** sparr has joined #openttdcoop 04:48:46 *** roboboy has quit IRC 04:50:34 *** roboboy has joined #openttdcoop 05:21:17 *** sparr has quit IRC 05:30:59 *** sparr has joined #openttdcoop 05:33:53 *** roboboy has quit IRC 05:38:13 *** devilsadvocate_ has quit IRC 05:39:12 *** Intexon has joined #openttdcoop 05:39:30 <PublicServer> *** Intexon joined the game 05:50:47 *** devilsadvocate has joined #openttdcoop 05:53:02 *** sunkan has joined #openttdcoop 06:01:58 <PublicServer> *** Intexon has left the game (connection lost) 06:04:47 *** Kolbur has joined #openttdcoop 06:12:49 *** Benko has joined #openttdcoop 06:16:55 *** Benom has quit IRC 06:29:17 *** Intexon has quit IRC 06:31:50 *** pm is now known as planetmaker 06:35:04 *** ^Spike^ has joined #openttdcoop 06:35:04 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ^Spike^ 07:05:00 *** Mitcian has joined #openttdcoop 07:10:46 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 07:15:54 *** Ryt0n has joined #openttdcoop 07:16:45 <Ryt0n> cool, a new game :-) 07:16:49 <Ryt0n> !screen 07:16:49 <PublicServer> *** Ryt0n liked to make screenshot of last action, but nobody was working since. (http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png) 07:18:04 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop 07:18:04 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 07:22:39 *** Headshot119 has joined #openttdcoop 07:22:47 <Headshot119> !password 07:22:47 <PublicServer> Headshot119: clasps 07:23:03 <PublicServer> *** headshot119 joined the game 07:23:33 <PublicServer> *** headshot119 has left the game (leaving) 07:23:36 *** Headshot119 has quit IRC 07:40:05 *** Benom has joined #openttdcoop 07:46:35 *** Benko has quit IRC 07:47:19 <Ryt0n> is it possible to add signs when the game is pauzed? 07:48:23 <Ryt0n> the wiki says yes 07:48:29 <Ryt0n> but I cannot activate it in-game 07:54:55 *** Benko has joined #openttdcoop 08:00:25 *** Benom has quit IRC 08:09:56 *** pugi has quit IRC 08:17:58 <planetmaker> Ryt0n, you need to be in the company, not as specatator. 08:18:17 <planetmaker> otherwise the usual sign placement tool works for me... (at least a few days ago) 08:39:12 <Ryt0n> ok, that could be the reason :-) 08:39:42 <Ryt0n> I thought the building tool was disabled in offline mode, but probably that (treebuilding/sign choice) is available as a player 08:41:09 *** Phazorx has joined #openttdcoop 08:41:09 *** Webster sets mode: +o Phazorx 08:44:38 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 08:49:16 *** Intexon has joined #openttdcoop 08:49:42 <PublicServer> *** Intexon joined the game 08:50:26 <PublicServer> *** Intexon has left the game (connection lost) 09:25:05 *** ODM has quit IRC 09:35:12 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 09:50:29 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 09:51:09 *** Intexon has quit IRC 10:00:47 *** NeosaD has joined #openttdcoop 10:01:32 *** Pirate87 has joined #openttdcoop 10:07:48 *** Intexon has joined #openttdcoop 10:21:33 *** devilsadvocate has quit IRC 10:27:43 *** NeosaD has quit IRC 10:32:47 *** Kolbur has left #openttdcoop 10:33:36 *** jondisti has joined #openttdcoop 10:34:16 *** NeosaD has joined #openttdcoop 10:34:50 <V453000> !password 10:34:50 <PublicServer> V453000: esteem 10:35:02 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 10:35:24 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 10:36:45 *** stonde has joined #openttdcoop 10:36:57 *** stonde has quit IRC 10:38:16 <PublicServer> *** jond1sti joined the game 10:38:54 *** roboboy has joined #openttdcoop 10:40:29 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00005DB3: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00005DB3.png 10:42:25 *** Intexon has quit IRC 10:45:06 <PublicServer> *** jond1sti has left the game (leaving) 10:47:40 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 10:55:32 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00019939: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00019939.png 10:57:10 *** devilsadvocate has joined #openttdcoop 11:02:12 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 11:02:12 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 11:07:51 *** Razmir has left #openttdcoop 11:11:00 *** Phazorx has quit IRC 11:14:32 *** Razmir has joined #openttdcoop 11:16:53 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 11:22:16 *** xarx has joined #openttdcoop 11:23:12 <xarx> !help 11:23:12 <PublicServer> xarx: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands 11:24:01 <xarx> !download 11:24:01 <PublicServer> xarx: !download autostart|autottd|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x 11:24:14 <xarx> !download win32 11:24:14 <PublicServer> xarx: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19523/openttd-trunk-r19523-windows-win32.zip 11:31:26 <V453000> welcome xarx :) 11:31:32 <V453000> @quickstart 11:31:34 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 11:31:36 <V453000> ^see this 11:32:17 *** xarx has quit IRC 11:32:22 *** VictorOfSweden has joined #openttdcoop 11:33:12 *** roboboy has quit IRC 11:38:57 <Pirate87> !screen 11:38:57 <PublicServer> *** Pirate87 liked to make screenshot of last action, but nobody was working since. (http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png) 11:43:36 <Ryt0n> can I vote too? :p 11:43:53 <Giddorah> !password 11:43:53 <PublicServer> Giddorah: frayed 11:44:01 <PublicServer> *** Giddorah joined the game 11:45:21 <V453000> sure you can 11:57:22 *** Phazorx has joined #openttdcoop 11:57:22 *** Webster sets mode: +o Phazorx 12:01:11 *** Benom has joined #openttdcoop 12:03:38 <gr00vy> !password 12:03:38 <PublicServer> gr00vy: grumpy 12:03:43 <Ryt0n> I'll have a fresh look on things :p 12:03:53 <Ryt0n> cause i'm really a freshman :p 12:03:54 <PublicServer> *** gr00vaLisTic has left the game (connection lost) 12:04:11 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 12:04:13 <PublicServer> *** gr00vaLisTic joined the game 12:08:00 *** Benko has quit IRC 12:11:49 *** OwenS`Phone has joined #openttdcoop 12:11:50 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v OwenS`Phone 12:16:28 *** Kolbur has joined #openttdcoop 12:19:29 <PublicServer> *** gr00vaLisTic has left the game (leaving) 12:19:30 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 12:21:11 *** Razmir has left #openttdcoop 12:24:08 <Pirate87> !screen 12:24:09 <PublicServer> *** Pirate87 liked to make screenshot of last action, but nobody was working since. 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"if incoming_train_load_type = wood then signal = red" or something like that :D 16:38:21 <PublicServer> *** VictorOfSweden joined the game 16:38:48 <pugi> but signals only are affected by trains/signals behind them 16:39:49 <PublicServer> *** VictorOfSweden has left the game (leaving) 16:45:29 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game 16:50:45 <OwenS> pugi: As said, signals don't work like that 16:52:52 <PublicServer> *** RockerTimmy has left the game (connection lost) 16:53:26 <RockerTimmy> !password 16:53:26 <PublicServer> RockerTimmy: revues 16:53:36 <XeryusTC> OwenS: then it's time to change that :P 16:53:40 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 16:53:41 <PublicServer> *** RockerTimmy joined the game 16:53:56 <XeryusTC> pbs is able to make signals red unless there is a reservable path to the destination behind it 16:59:06 *** pugi has quit IRC 16:59:27 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has left the game (leaving) 16:59:28 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 17:01:42 <Lukeus_Maximus> !PASSWORD 17:01:46 <Lukeus_Maximus> !password 17:01:46 <PublicServer> Lukeus_Maximus: rubies 17:01:57 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 17:01:58 <PublicServer> *** Lukeus_Maximus joined the game 17:03:37 <Lukeus_Maximus> somehow I think V453000's plan is going to go through 17:04:48 <RockerTimmy> what does he mean with SRNW? 17:05:23 <thomashauk> Self-Regulating-Net-Work 17:05:52 <OwenS> @srnw 17:05:53 <Webster> srnw: Self-regulating Network, see also: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/SRNW 17:06:30 *** Pirate87 has quit IRC 17:06:30 <RockerTimmy> thanks 17:07:04 <Lukeus_Maximus> his idea is very simple, yet effective 17:07:28 <RockerTimmy> although the wiki page does seem complicated 17:07:33 <Lukeus_Maximus> no orders for the trains means less work for us 17:07:36 <Lukeus_Maximus> (marginally) 17:07:57 <thomashauk> Of course we then have an out of control mass of trains 17:08:04 <RockerTimmy> not one order? 17:08:31 <thomashauk> The drop station and that's it 17:11:25 <RockerTimmy> i'm going to take a look at some older games with srnw 17:11:34 <RockerTimmy> sounds very interesting 17:11:40 <PublicServer> *** RockerTimmy has left the game (leaving) 17:11:41 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 17:11:43 <thomashauk> !password 17:11:43 <PublicServer> thomashauk: vagues 17:12:15 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 17:12:16 <PublicServer> *** thomashauk joined the game 17:15:14 <V453000> trains without orders acually require lots of work 17:15:24 <V453000> because they are really ridiculously dumb 17:17:14 <OwenS> V453000: Or, in english, can only operatr in one mode: Follow this line of one way signals :p 17:17:29 <OwenS> Come to a branch? Pick at random! 17:17:38 <OwenS> Even if one is green and one is red, still pick at random! 17:18:47 <RockerTimmy> is it ever done before? 17:20:12 <RockerTimmy> i'm looking at game 172 now, but trains have orders in that game 17:20:42 <thomashauk> Note that the pickup station isn't specified 17:22:01 <thomashauk> The drop station will be one order 17:22:17 <PublicServer> *** gr00vaLisTic has left the game (connection lost) 17:23:25 *** devilsadvocate has joined #openttdcoop 17:24:19 <thomashauk> I've put a small basic example in the game 17:25:35 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000D9F4: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000D9F4.png 17:26:24 <PublicServer> *** Robi-Wan has left the game (connection lost) 17:27:12 *** Progman has quit IRC 17:30:46 <Lukeus_Maximus> perhaps simply have 2 orders, one goto for each drop? 17:31:14 *** Phazorx has joined #openttdcoop 17:31:14 *** Webster sets mode: +o Phazorx 17:31:32 <thomashauk> Try will probably be two sets of trains I'm geussing 17:32:02 <Lukeus_Maximus> no no 17:32:15 <Lukeus_Maximus> he specifically said one integrated network 17:32:36 <Lukeus_Maximus> if you look at the plan carefully, you'll see that each train does a figure of 8 17:33:13 <thomashauk> Oh wait, he's using splitters, so the trains have no orders 17:33:14 <Lukeus_Maximus> north drop -> pickup x -> south drop -> pickup y -> repeat for infinity 17:33:23 <Lukeus_Maximus> must look up splitters 17:33:34 <thomashauk> If you read the signs you'll see that isn't the case 17:35:41 <RockerTimmy> !password 17:35:41 <PublicServer> RockerTimmy: hastes 17:35:52 <PublicServer> *** RockerTimmy joined the game 17:37:21 <RockerTimmy> I understand the plan finally :D 17:37:26 <Lukeus_Maximus> good 17:37:30 <Lukeus_Maximus> I have a new concept 17:37:44 <tneo> has a plan been chosen 17:37:45 <tneo> ? 17:37:57 <Lukeus_Maximus> but it is comparable to the "goto" statements you have in programming languages (ie. megahax 17:37:59 <Lukeus_Maximus> ) 17:38:03 <thomashauk> It seems so 17:38:16 <Lukeus_Maximus> after a train finishes a run, it is automatically sold in a epot 17:38:19 <Lukeus_Maximus> *depot 17:38:30 *** Intexon has quit IRC 17:38:34 <thomashauk> V453000 seems to have won 17:38:38 <Lukeus_Maximus> and remade at the beginning of the run in a different depot 17:38:42 <Lukeus_Maximus> indeed he has 17:38:44 <Lukeus_Maximus> but 17:38:48 <Lukeus_Maximus> it was inevitable 17:38:55 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 17:39:34 *** Polygon has joined #openttdcoop 17:40:14 <tneo> again? 17:40:21 <tneo> is V453000 the new mark? :-/ 17:40:37 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000E9F4: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000E9F4.png 17:40:58 <V453000> that would dishonor Mark 17:41:20 <Lukeus_Maximus> who is mark? 17:41:26 <tneo> well you both seem to be able to get plans chosen successively 17:41:37 <V453000> !password 17:41:37 <PublicServer> V453000: wields 17:41:37 <tneo> a talented member :-) 17:41:47 <V453000> Mark is god 17:41:47 <tneo> currently residing in Aussie 17:41:48 <V453000> almost 17:42:07 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 17:42:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi ingamers 17:42:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> wow 17:42:47 <thomashauk> It was a bit of a run away 17:43:34 <PublicServer> *** tneo joined the game 17:45:16 <PublicServer> *** tneo has left the game (leaving) 17:45:55 *** Razmir has joined #openttdcoop 17:46:53 <PublicServer> *** VictorOfSweden joined the game 17:47:16 <Lukeus_Maximus> what runaway? 17:48:53 <PublicServer> *** Razmir joined the game 17:48:59 <thomashauk> 73% of the vote, 4 times the next person 17:50:27 *** Kolbur has left #openttdcoop 17:50:32 <PublicServer> *** VictorOfSweden has joined spectators 17:54:07 *** De_Ghosty has quit IRC 17:55:36 *** Ryt0n has joined #openttdcoop 17:55:39 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000E9F5: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000E9F5.png 17:58:02 *** De_Ghosty has joined #openttdcoop 17:58:44 *** deghosty has joined #openttdcoop 17:58:47 *** De_Ghosty has quit IRC 18:05:15 <RockerTimmy> When does construction start? 18:06:18 <Lukeus_Maximus> soon I hope 18:06:57 *** smoovi has quit IRC 18:07:11 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 18:07:54 <RockerTimmy> i can't wait 18:13:28 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> so, has a member officially declared V453000 as the winner? 18:13:44 <V453000> V453000 doesnt want to declare himself 18:13:57 <XeryusTC> i think you can say he quite clearly won 18:13:59 *** jondisti has quit IRC 18:14:17 <XeryusTC> i knew it was futile to make a plan while someone else makes a plan involving something which was posted on the blog just before 18:14:42 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> I never voted, but I probably would have gone for tneo's plan 18:14:49 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> (one of the few that transports all cargo types) 18:15:19 <thomashauk> Though I choose not to transport oil since we only have wells 18:15:23 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> Xeryus, yours wasn't bad, but I didn't see the need for 4*L_4*R on the east side of the map 18:15:35 <thomashauk> No offshore platforms 18:15:53 *** Phoenix_the_II has quit IRC 18:16:19 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> thomashauk: true, but with a few creatively placed lakes, we could have made room for some rigs 18:16:33 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> do they have to be near the map edge, or anywhere a body of water exists? 18:16:41 <Lukeus_Maximus> edge of map 18:17:25 <Lukeus_Maximus> and it's probably silly to aim for something that there isn't abundant of 18:17:56 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> funny you should say that....there's an abundance of industries when we start the map, but by the time we start buildilng, over 50% have shut down 18:18:41 <Lukeus_Maximus> perhaps we need some sort of locking system, that locks all industry until we aren't planning / voting 18:18:59 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> there have been thoughts along those lines 18:19:23 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> like saving the initial state of the game, and after voting, reload the initial game state, cheat some money in, copy the plan, and then build 18:19:38 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> (and advance the date, if necessary) 18:19:44 <Lukeus_Maximus> hmm 18:22:24 <V453000> lets byld? 18:22:28 <XeryusTC> thraxian: i have a one way ML, but I guess that ML can slim down the more it comes to the east 18:23:54 <thomashauk> Yeah let get laying some track! 18:23:56 <Lukeus_Maximus> If I declare V453000 the winner, can we build? 18:24:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> you cant declare me a winner 18:24:17 <Lukeus_Maximus> who can 18:24:20 <Lukeus_Maximus> ? 18:24:24 <V453000> members 18:24:38 <thomashauk> Apparently only members are can count 18:25:41 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00010016: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00010016.png 18:26:00 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> I will make that declaration, unless anyone objects 18:26:12 <RockerTimmy> I can't believe there is just one person on earth, who is not able to see that V453000 is the winner 18:26:16 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> tneo was on earlier, and from what he said, it appears he is in agreement 18:26:47 <Lukeus_Maximus> then we can proceed? 18:26:53 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> I can't get into IRC, so please make sure the stage is updated there 18:26:53 <XeryusTC> i agree with making V453000 a member too 18:27:00 <XeryusTC> @stage Building 18:27:00 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #180 (r19523) | STAGE: Building | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart & !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | Welcome to the depths of insanity" 18:27:04 <XeryusTC> thraxian: done 18:27:07 <Lukeus_Maximus> sorry: Motion for an indicative vote to proceed 18:27:13 <Lukeus_Maximus> woot 18:27:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> ok 18:27:34 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> point of order: there has been no motion made to ask for motions from the floor 18:27:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> lets set outer ML first 18:27:47 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> hehe 18:27:56 <PublicServer> <Lukeus_Maximus> house cleaning, remove unused plans 18:28:44 <Lukeus_Maximus> because they'll get in the way 18:29:15 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> V: will you make a sample station showing how to let a train into a SRNW station and ensure a full load? 18:29:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> sure 18:29:38 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> or, if one is available on the wiki, maybe put a sign on the message board to point to that article? 18:30:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> I will be here a lot during the building because many things will be inregular 18:30:02 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> we have a number of new faces that may not be as familiar with SRNW, and I'm a bit rusty myself 18:30:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> sure 18:30:13 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> like your spelling of irregular? hehe 18:30:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> these stations will be needed later 18:30:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> :D ye 18:30:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> thx 18:30:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> for correction 18:31:44 <Lukeus_Maximus> rail type: maglev or electric? 18:31:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> mlev 18:31:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> it is in the plan 18:32:06 <PublicServer> <thomashauk> How far in from the edge to build|? 18:32:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> go with 10 tiles 18:32:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> no spaces between lines 18:35:02 <pugi> ah 18:35:04 <Webster> Latest update from dznews: OpenGFX - OpenGFX 0.2.2 released <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/news/28> || OpenMSX - OpenMSX 0.2.1 released <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/news/27> || OpenSFX - OpenSFX 0.2.2 <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/news/26> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - First public release: FIRS 0.1.0 <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/news/25> 18:35:05 <pugi> building has begun 18:35:09 <pugi> !password 18:35:09 <PublicServer> pugi: champs 18:35:26 <PublicServer> *** pugi joined the game 18:35:48 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> can someone tweet that building has started? 18:35:52 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> or do we use tweet for that? 18:36:15 <pugi> !tweet building phase has begun in PSG 180 :D 18:36:17 <pugi> :P 18:36:18 <PublicServer> pugi: Tweet sent: http://twitter.com/openttdcoop 18:36:21 <pugi> what :O 18:36:24 <pugi> everybody can? 18:36:45 <PublicServer> *** Lukeus_Maximus has left the game (leaving) 18:36:55 <pugi> i just sent tweet, thraxian 18:36:56 <Ammler> pugi: shht ;-) 18:37:08 <pugi> you should change it ;) 18:37:12 <Ammler> why? 18:37:15 <pugi> and i won't tell :) 18:37:26 <pugi> well... anyone in this channel can make bad things with it :x 18:37:32 <pugi> but hopefully they won't 18:37:36 <Ammler> do we care? 18:37:46 <pugi> well... you can't remove tweets 18:37:49 <Ammler> it is "just" twitter 18:37:57 <pugi> okay ^^ 18:37:58 <Ammler> you can... 18:38:01 <pugi> and just 14 followers... 18:38:05 <pugi> you can? 18:38:06 <pugi> hm 18:38:06 <OwenS> Anyone can change the channel topic too. I imagine that would be more annoying 18:38:07 <Ammler> hmm, _we_ can 18:38:10 <Ammler> you can't 18:38:16 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> but it's also displayed on the portal, isn't it? 18:38:30 <pugi> chanmode +t prevents topic change from anyone except ops 18:38:39 <Ammler> you should tweet more often... 18:38:45 <pugi> :/ 18:38:55 <OwenS> @topic 18:38:55 <Webster> OwenS: Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #180 (r19523) | STAGE: Building | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart & !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | Welcome to the depths of insanity 18:38:56 <Ammler> you can't change topic 18:39:02 *** V453000 has left #openttdcoop 18:39:02 *** V453000 has joined #openttdcoop 18:39:02 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o V453000 18:39:08 <OwenS> Ammler: 18:39:12 <Ammler> you can only change stage 18:39:38 <pugi> you could automatically tweet when stage is changed in topic 18:39:49 <OwenS> @topic 2 s/180/181/ 18:39:49 <Webster> OwenS: (topic [<channel>]) -- Returns the topic for <channel>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself. 18:39:50 <KenjiE20> only ops can change topic 18:39:54 <KenjiE20> but webster is an op 18:39:56 <OwenS> @topic 2 change s/180/181/ 18:39:56 <Webster> OwenS: (topic [<channel>]) -- Returns the topic for <channel>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself. 18:39:57 <KenjiE20> so yea.... 18:40:05 <OwenS> Hmm... Worked in .dev... 18:40:14 <KenjiE20> backwards command 18:40:17 <KenjiE20> and don't try it 18:40:37 <KenjiE20> join .bots if you rally have to try it 18:40:40 <KenjiE20> really* 18:40:43 <Ammler> OwenS: you have +v 18:40:44 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00002DA3: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00002DA3.png 18:40:49 <OwenS> Ammler: Not in .dev 18:41:10 <Ammler> well, again feel free to tweet :-) 18:41:20 <Ammler> we set it up for a reason... 18:41:28 <PublicServer> <pugi> what is with the depots in the network plan? :) 18:41:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> overflows 18:41:50 <PublicServer> <pugi> ah okay 18:41:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> should look more like this 18:42:35 <PublicServer> <thomashauk> Is the centre LLLLLL_RRRRRR or L_R_L_R... 18:42:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> the first 18:42:52 <PublicServer> <pugi> or LLLL_RRRR__LLLL_RRRR? 18:43:01 <PublicServer> <pugi> wait, just 6 18:43:10 <PublicServer> <pugi> but okay ^^ 18:43:27 *** Kolo has joined #openttdcoop 18:43:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> the inner ML can wiat now 18:43:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> wait 18:50:46 <PublicServer> *** Kolo joined the game 18:51:45 <PublicServer> <pugi> i would call it 1:1 flipflop... 18:51:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> or 1->2 18:52:10 <PublicServer> <pugi> hmm... i don't get the 1->2 part but whatever :D 18:52:17 <PublicServer> <pugi> 1 input -> 2 outputs? 18:52:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> does it really matter? 18:52:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> but yes 18:52:50 * OwenS wishes pkg(7) would be less hoggy of disk IO 18:53:25 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> is that CL ok? 18:53:28 <PublicServer> <pugi> well i just thought you could also make 1:2 flipflops or whatever where 1/3 go right and 2/3 go left 18:53:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> how would that help 18:53:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> I need to split into 3 18:54:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> no it isnt thrax :) 18:54:04 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> looks like you have CL2 there - is CL2 sufficient for TL3 maglev? 18:54:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> nah 18:54:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> mistake 18:55:46 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000072E1: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000072E1.png 18:56:02 <PublicServer> <thomashauk> This looks hideously complex 18:56:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> this will be at every SL-> ML join 18:56:21 <PublicServer> <thomashauk> It's making me wish for copy/paste 18:57:50 <PublicServer> <pugi> i just hope you have enough space to the north, would be annoying to do the whole thing again :D 18:59:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> nah I am safe 18:59:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> ok ... now 18:59:51 <PublicServer> <Razmir> We are watching you :) 18:59:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> lets give you some work ;) 19:00:04 <pugi> i guess i would annoy you even more if i ask what pf means... so i am better checking the page/wiki myself :x 19:00:07 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> still need to connect your first PF trap 19:00:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> extend the ML where I wrote "does not end here" 19:00:11 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> on the eastern track 19:00:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> I know Thrax but thanks 19:00:24 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> kk 19:00:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> and at the extended ML make the Drops 19:00:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> that should be relatively easy 19:00:45 <KenjiE20> define: pf 19:00:45 <Webster> pf: PathFinder 19:00:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> by that time I will finish this 19:01:49 <leg> !password 19:01:49 <PublicServer> leg: snakes 19:02:27 <PublicServer> *** leg3nd joined the game 19:02:34 <PublicServer> <leg3nd> hello lads 19:02:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 19:03:02 <KenjiE20> that was a slightly unfortunate password :P 19:03:13 <V453000> :) 19:03:20 <PublicServer> <leg3nd> hehe :> 19:04:51 *** PeterT_ has joined #openttdcoop 19:05:08 <thomashauk> Will there be splitters on the drops? 19:05:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> no 19:08:11 *** Ryt0n has quit IRC 19:08:59 <Phazorx> are we still planning? 19:09:03 *** PeterT has quit IRC 19:09:03 *** cifvts_ has quit IRC 19:09:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> no 19:09:28 <Phazorx> topic didnt update for me :/ 19:09:38 <V453000> it is updated though 19:10:13 <Phazorx> pugi i guess i would annoy you even more if i ask what pf means... so i am better checking the page/wiki myself :x << PF pathfinder? 19:10:22 <pugi> yeah... 19:10:36 <OwenS> Or try @asking Webster :p 19:10:41 <KenjiE20> -_- 19:10:44 <Phazorx> kenji did 19:10:45 <pugi> but i wasn't sure what was meant with the pf trap... 19:10:48 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00004ED2: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00004ED2.png 19:10:52 <Phazorx> i just didnt scroll down enough 19:11:06 <Phazorx> pugi: its a a visible shortcut for PF 19:11:11 <Phazorx> to force it take certain way 19:11:15 <OwenS> (sunstudio12u1 is a huge bloody package...) 19:11:18 <Phazorx> which actualy isnt accessible 19:11:23 *** cifvts_ has joined #openttdcoop 19:11:43 <Phazorx> so PF guide trains passed the split point between several routes based on availability of target presented by PF trap 19:12:06 <Phazorx> but at same time as train gets there the direct way to target becomes unavailable 19:12:24 <Phazorx> so essentially it is PF information trap - a way to force track selection 19:16:13 *** Headshot119 has joined #openttdcoop 19:16:36 <Headshot119> !password 19:16:36 <PublicServer> Headshot119: agiler 19:17:06 <PublicServer> *** headshot119 joined the game 19:17:28 <PublicServer> <pugi> 10 clients :O 19:17:37 <PublicServer> <pugi> all watching V453000 :D 19:17:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> :| 19:17:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> I need you to make this at every single SLH 19:17:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> or something similar 19:19:16 <Headshot119> Tips for a new player like me? What should I do watch? 19:19:52 <PublicServer> <pugi> look for sign " SLH N 03" and watch your mind getting blown away or just getting hurt :D 19:20:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> :( 19:20:18 <Headshot119> Watching that, My head hurts, can it be summed up easily? 19:20:35 <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> don't like an audience, V.? :) 19:20:56 <PublicServer> <pugi> one trains enters from south and gets send to one of the 6 outer lanes 19:21:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> I seriously need 14 of these around the map 19:21:08 <PublicServer> <pugi> equally distributed 19:21:12 <PublicServer> <leg3nd> defining the laws of the higs. i think. 19:22:10 <PublicServer> <pugi> how about just using 4 lanes? :P 19:22:21 <PublicServer> <pugi> i suspect not that much traffic with only wood... :/ 19:22:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> haha 19:22:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> you funny 19:23:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> ok this is it 19:23:30 <PublicServer> <RockerTimmy> i'm going to try copy your hub 19:23:33 <Headshot119> Wiw 19:23:35 <Headshot119> *wow 19:23:48 <OwenS> V453000: Not going for the impossible option: One bank of central flipflops all hubs connect to? :P 19:23:52 <PublicServer> <pugi> may i ask the reason of the crossings after the double bridges? :) 19:24:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> :D OwenS: next time :P 19:24:05 *** Dred_furst has joined #openttdcoop 19:24:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> the whole center line is for now going to be covered with splitters 19:24:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> pugi: prio 19:25:19 <PublicServer> <pugi> ah so one of the bridges has priority 19:25:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> no 19:25:25 <Phazorx> pugi regular track tile seens by PF as base cost of 100 19:25:33 <Phazorx> red light - 300 19:25:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> both of the bridges have priority and the joining ones give way 19:25:38 <Phazorx> road crossing 500 19:25:50 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00009732: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00009732.png 19:25:59 <Phazorx> station 1000 (default, 5000 for coop often) 19:26:07 <Headshot119> Can someone explain the purpose of a flip flop (New player) 19:26:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> see blog 19:26:24 <pugi> http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2010/03/25/advanced-building-revue-02-splits/ 19:26:25 <Phazorx> each platform tile the station is short for train - 500 19:26:25 <pugi> here 19:26:30 <Headshot119> thanks 19:26:34 *** Polygon has quit IRC 19:26:34 *** thgergo has quit IRC 19:26:34 *** Lukeus_Maximus has quit IRC 19:26:34 *** thomashauk has quit IRC 19:26:34 *** OwenS`Phone has quit IRC 19:26:34 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 19:26:34 *** NeosaD has quit IRC 19:26:34 *** ccfreak2k has quit IRC 19:26:34 *** Condac- has quit IRC 19:26:34 *** bartavelle has quit IRC 19:26:34 *** Seppel has quit IRC 19:26:34 *** Aali has quit IRC 19:26:35 *** Sasakura has quit IRC 19:26:35 *** PierreW has quit IRC 19:26:37 *** Polygon has joined #openttdcoop 19:26:37 *** thomashauk has joined #openttdcoop 19:26:37 *** thgergo has joined #openttdcoop 19:26:37 *** Lukeus_Maximus has joined #openttdcoop 19:26:37 *** OwenS`Phone has joined #openttdcoop 19:26:37 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 19:26:37 *** NeosaD has joined #openttdcoop 19:26:37 *** ccfreak2k has joined #openttdcoop 19:26:37 *** Condac- has joined #openttdcoop 19:26:37 *** bartavelle has joined #openttdcoop 19:26:37 *** Seppel has joined #openttdcoop 19:26:37 *** Aali has joined #openttdcoop 19:26:37 *** Sasakura has joined #openttdcoop 19:26:37 *** PierreW has joined #openttdcoop 19:26:37 *** kinetic.oftc.net sets mode: +vo OwenS`Phone KenjiE20 19:26:49 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v KenjiE20 19:27:04 <PublicServer> <pugi> phazor, i think you are talking about normal prios... 19:27:06 <KenjiE20> well, that explains the non-response 19:28:11 <PublicServer> <leg3nd> regular tracks right ? 19:28:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> what is regular? 19:28:25 <PublicServer> <leg3nd> electro 19:28:28 <PublicServer> <pugi> electric, always 19:28:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> maglev 19:28:30 *** Dred_furst has quit IRC 19:28:51 <PublicServer> <leg3nd> hmm dont have that GRF 19:28:59 <PublicServer> <leg3nd> looks like normal tracks for me :> 19:29:01 <PublicServer> <pugi> maglev is just not available 19:29:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> it is narrow gauge 19:29:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> which looks much better than maglev 19:29:32 <PublicServer> <pugi> ah it already is maglev? <.< 19:29:57 <Lukeus_Maximus> !password 19:29:57 <PublicServer> Lukeus_Maximus: deaden 19:30:16 <pugi> Phazorx, are you on the server? 19:30:17 <PublicServer> *** Lukeus_Maximus joined the game 19:32:37 *** Progman has quit IRC 19:33:32 *** LG has joined #openttdcoop 19:33:41 <LG> !dl win32 19:33:41 <PublicServer> LG: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19523/openttd-trunk-r19523-windows-win32.zip 19:34:03 <PublicServer> <RockerTimmy> are they supposed to move at 3500 km/h? 19:34:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 19:34:09 <Phazorx> pugi... i'm not playing openttd atm 19:34:12 <PublicServer> <thomashauk> I've build I nicer merge if you want to take a look 19:34:26 <PublicServer> <thomashauk> At SLH S 03 19:34:28 <pugi> okay... 19:34:30 <Phazorx> and no i am not talking about prio 19:34:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> I see 19:34:35 <Phazorx> i was talking about PF trap 19:34:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> the merge doesnt matter 19:34:44 <pugi> okay... i was not :D 19:34:45 <Phazorx> which is an anri-prio 19:35:05 <V453000> !grf 19:35:05 <PublicServer> V453000: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/GRF (Version 7.3) 19:35:09 <V453000> LG ^ 19:35:14 <Phazorx> but your second question was about crossroad 19:35:32 <Phazorx> i could be wrong but coopers only used crossroads as a minor penalty once in a blue moon 19:35:39 <LG> danke 19:35:44 <V453000> np 19:35:48 <Phazorx> RV nets are prohibited from crossing RR nets on purpose 19:36:27 <OwenS> Phazorx: Its a very effective penalty though 19:36:28 <pugi> making screen for you :P 19:36:56 <OwenS> Phazorx: Though PeterT moans at you because of the racket 19:36:57 <Phazorx> OwenS: in case of minor track length - it is quite okay 19:37:15 <Phazorx> he can moan all he wants 19:37:16 <OwenS> Phazorx: Or right in front of a station. PSB efficiency with PBS 19:37:20 <Phazorx> just keep the green coming :) 19:37:22 <KenjiE20> LCs are about half penalty of backwards signals 19:37:30 <KenjiE20> so it makes for nice gradualisation 19:37:32 <OwenS> KenjiE20: Significantly less IIRC 19:37:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> leg: you cant stuff there the signal 19:37:46 <Phazorx> LC ? 19:37:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> that is the point 19:37:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> you have wrong rails 19:38:08 <PublicServer> <leg3nd> arr :> 19:38:13 <LG> !password 19:38:13 <PublicServer> LG: deaden 19:38:16 *** PeterT_ is now known as PeterT 19:38:18 <KenjiE20> OwenS: yea probably, but it's how we use them :P 19:38:22 <PublicServer> *** Player joined the game 19:38:22 <Webster> Player, please change your in game nick 19:38:25 <Phazorx> define: lc 19:38:33 <KenjiE20> level crossing 19:38:42 <Phazorx> as in ramp? 19:38:42 <PublicServer> *** Player has changed his/her name to LordG 19:38:45 <KenjiE20> I should add that 19:38:58 <PublicServer> *** LordG has changed his/her name to LG 19:39:05 *** Ryt0n has joined #openttdcoop 19:39:06 <KenjiE20> no as in, ding ding, train coming, move your car, level crossing 19:39:13 <Ryt0n> !pass 19:39:15 <Ryt0n> !password 19:39:15 <PublicServer> Ryt0n: deaden 19:39:19 <Phazorx> road crossing you mean? 19:39:28 <OwenS> KenjiE20: If they were half a PBS, they would be far less useful at stations. 3 back-PBS in a row causes the entry PBS to go into stupid "I'll wait for a less expensive route" mode 19:39:38 <KenjiE20> they're called levelcrossings here 19:39:46 <pugi> Phazorx: http://i41.tinypic.com/2u4322d.jpg 19:39:47 <PublicServer> *** Ryton joined the game 19:39:55 <Phazorx> OwenS: actually reverse pbs confuse PF more than penaltises 19:40:02 <PublicServer> <leg3nd> i give up :> 19:40:04 <pugi> the straight crossing before the last bridges of lanes 4-6 19:40:08 <Phazorx> i seen cases when pf coud not path through too man reverse PBS 19:40:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> you can copy it tile by tile 19:40:28 <PublicServer> <leg3nd> think thats what i did :> 19:40:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> no 19:40:35 <Phazorx> pugi that's a lot of rails 19:40:40 <OwenS> Phazorx: It can. The same issue happens with stations: The path finder waits for a better route because it's given up on that one as too expensive 19:40:51 <pugi> should i mark them? :P 19:40:52 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000AF3A: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000AF3A.png 19:40:55 <KenjiE20> !setdef 19:40:55 <PublicServer> *** KenjiE20 has disabled wait_for_pbs_path, wait_twoway_signal, wait_oneway_signal, ai_in_multiplayer; enabled no_servicing_if_no_breakdowns, extra_dynamite, mod_road_rebuild, forbid_90_deg, rail_firstred_twoway_eol and set path_backoff_interval to 1, train_acceleration_model to 1 19:40:55 <PublicServer> *** VictorOfSweden has left the game (leaving) 19:41:06 <Lukeus_Maximus> someone remind me what the benefits are of having 2 engines per train? 19:41:11 <KenjiE20> ah, doesn't mod that 19:41:13 <pugi> more traction 19:41:20 <pugi> and powe 19:41:21 <pugi> r 19:41:35 <KenjiE20> OwenS: yea, crossings are 300, backsignals are 1500 19:41:39 <Lukeus_Maximus> cool 19:41:41 <Lukeus_Maximus> ty 19:41:48 <PublicServer> *** leg3nd has joined spectators 19:42:47 <OwenS> And after about ~3000-4500 YaPF gives up on the route if its found better ones and marks it as a dead end to that destination 19:42:58 <Lukeus_Maximus> anybody object if I bridge the gaps accordingly at SLH S 03? 19:43:20 <PublicServer> <RockerTimmy> I think there is a signal missing in one of your pf traps in SLH N 03 19:43:55 <pugi> Phazorx: http://i40.tinypic.com/290rekk.jpg 19:43:58 <pugi> just for you :P 19:44:15 <KenjiE20> pugi: +PublicServer | *** made screenshot at 0000AF3A: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000AF3A.png <--- 19:44:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes was missing 19:44:35 <KenjiE20> all you have to do is ask the server for one 19:44:39 <KenjiE20> :) 19:44:44 <Headshot119> Guys can someone look at SLHS03 at the connect sign??? 19:44:52 <pugi> i tried using !screen ingame 19:44:54 <pugi> didn't work 19:45:09 <Headshot119> I think the track there should be connected although im not sure 19:45:15 *** VictorOfSweden has quit IRC 19:45:20 <PublicServer> <pugi> no connection 19:45:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> done 19:45:27 <Headshot119> Thanks 19:45:33 *** VictorOfSweden has joined #openttdcoop 19:45:35 <PublicServer> <pugi> trains come from the middle and move to the edges 19:45:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> I see 19:45:45 <PublicServer> <pugi> as you can see in network plan 19:45:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> but these priorities dont work 19:45:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> you will need this: 19:45:58 <PublicServer> *** VictorOfSweden joined the game 19:46:16 <pugi> KenjiE20 19:46:17 <PublicServer> *** LG has left the game (connection lost) 19:46:20 <pugi> [21:44:52] <pugi> i tried using !screen ingame 19:46:20 <pugi> [21:44:54] <pugi> didn't work 19:46:31 <KenjiE20> yea, petty sure it doesn't 19:46:38 <KenjiE20> pretty* 19:46:43 <LG> !password 19:46:43 <PublicServer> LG: creeks 19:46:50 <pugi> wrong command? 19:46:53 <PublicServer> *** LG joined the game 19:46:54 <KenjiE20> nope 19:46:59 <KenjiE20> !screen 19:47:01 <PublicServer> *** KenjiE20 made screenshot at 00009738: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00009738.png 19:47:28 <pugi> usage from ingame is wrong? 19:47:42 <KenjiE20> oog only afaik 19:48:02 <pugi> oog? o0 19:48:07 <KenjiE20> out of game 19:48:08 <pugi> stop messing with my head :D 19:48:11 <pugi> hm okay 19:48:20 <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> i'm gonna try and copy V.'s hub 19:48:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> go on 19:48:33 <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> at SLH N 05 19:48:38 <pugi> so it uses the viewport of the person with the same ingame nick as the irc nick? 19:48:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> lets name the hubs by locations 19:49:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> so like SLH N 300 19:49:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> will be best 19:49:13 <KenjiE20> pugi: nope, I'm not even in game 19:49:18 <KenjiE20> uses last command 19:49:27 <OwenS> pugi: !screen goes to the tile of the last DoCommand 19:49:33 <pugi> ah 19:49:35 <pugi> okay... 19:49:52 <pugi> so you have to make sure the others are not doing anything or just be extremely quick? :P 19:50:11 <KenjiE20> bit of both 19:55:54 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000366F6: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000366F6.png 19:56:04 <PublicServer> <pugi> not gate trains are stopped at basics area :( 19:56:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> ! BASICS AREA is to show the used elements 19:59:53 <PublicServer> <pugi> do you use 7 waypoints for each slh to get an even splitting ratio from mainline? 20:00:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> waypoints? ? 20:00:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> trains have no orders 20:00:23 <PublicServer> <pugi> yeah, right... 20:01:05 <PublicServer> <pugi> so they choose at random to leave mainline and go to a loading station? 20:01:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> what do you mean 20:01:37 <PublicServer> <pugi> or is the example splitter a timer? 20:01:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> the split from the inner ML? 20:01:43 <PublicServer> <pugi> yes 20:01:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> the train enters there if there is free space 20:01:57 <PublicServer> <pugi> ah, just 1 train allowed? 20:02:03 <PublicServer> <pugi> okay 20:02:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> ye 20:02:15 <PublicServer> <pugi> now i get it :) 20:02:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> good 20:03:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> anyone bored and having nothing to build? :) 20:03:16 <PublicServer> <pugi> otherwise you could use the 6:1, 5:1, 4:1, ... flipflops to split them evenly ;) 20:03:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> there are two big stations to do 20:03:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes you could 20:03:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> but why 20:03:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> and it isnt a good idea to make a flipflop in more than 1->3 20:03:56 <PublicServer> <pugi> it isn't more than 1->3 20:04:05 <OwenS> V453000: I'm bored. :-( 20:04:12 <PublicServer> <V453000> this is best ... or you can use first 1->3 and then 3x 1->2 20:04:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> then build something :p 20:04:33 <OwenS> V453000: I'm also stuck on an Atom again 20:04:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> Atom? 20:04:40 <PublicServer> <pugi> it is still 1->2 in your way of notation, it is just 1 train gets to the station, 6/5/4... trains continue forwards 20:04:44 <OwenS> V453000: Intel Atom 20:04:49 <V453000> ah 20:04:53 <V453000> I thought it is a drug 20:05:07 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 20:05:08 <OwenS> What kind of a person do you take me for?! :P 20:05:58 <OwenS> Anyone wanna take bets on whether pkg(7) will successfully update this OpenSolaris install? Precedent shows it has failed 7 times 20:07:23 <pugi> V453000, care to explain the reason of these crossings? :) http://i40.tinypic.com/290rekk.jpg 20:07:58 <KenjiE20> see the signals after it 20:08:20 <pugi> sure i noticed 2 different ones... 20:08:36 <KenjiE20> ones a two way, ones a two way pre exit 20:09:38 <pugi> is it the same kind of main line prio like the top 3 lanes? 20:09:57 <KenjiE20> yes, only extended over the bridge 20:10:09 <pugi> hm... okay 20:10:12 <V453000> thx Kenji 20:10:17 <pugi> i just have never seen that before 20:10:17 <V453000> my connection failed :/ 20:10:30 <KenjiE20> technically you can bounce them even further by using a third line 20:10:39 <V453000> !password 20:10:39 <PublicServer> V453000: affirm 20:10:44 <KenjiE20> or loops, or stuff 20:10:56 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00007600: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00007600.png 20:10:57 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 20:11:12 <KenjiE20> also, line 4 is missing an entry in that pic 20:11:14 <KenjiE20> V453000: ^ 20:11:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> ? 20:11:40 <KenjiE20> follow the track for 4 up to the prio-over-bridge 20:12:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> still cant see anything ronk 20:14:41 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 20:14:46 <PublicServer> <Lukeus_Maximus> who is removing bridges, putting them back again and why? 20:14:53 <V453000> am I here? anyone hear me? 20:15:01 <KenjiE20> @ping 20:15:01 <Webster> pong 20:15:04 <PublicServer> <Lukeus_Maximus> I can read your text 20:16:46 <PublicServer> *** Ryton has joined spectators 20:16:49 <PublicServer> *** Ryton has left the game (connection lost) 20:19:16 *** LG has quit IRC 20:20:24 *** Ryt0n has quit IRC 20:20:36 *** LG has joined #openttdcoop 20:22:43 *** Intexon has joined #openttdcoop 20:23:55 <PublicServer> *** Intexon joined the game 20:25:58 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000356DE: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000356DE.png 20:30:15 <PublicServer> *** LG has left the game (connection lost) 20:31:18 <PublicServer> *** Intexon has left the game (leaving) 20:35:49 *** Intexon has quit IRC 20:41:00 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00008619: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00008619.png 20:43:36 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 20:48:13 <PublicServer> *** tneo joined the game 20:50:02 <PublicServer> *** tneo has left the game (leaving) 20:50:30 <PeterT> OMG THOSE SIGNALS LOOK UGLY 20:50:42 <PeterT> ogfx thick signals look....bleh 20:51:30 *** Giddorah has quit IRC 20:51:35 <V453000> god damn internet 20:51:54 <V453000> !password 20:51:55 <PublicServer> V453000: infirm 20:52:04 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 20:56:02 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000356E5: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000356E5.png 20:56:45 <PublicServer> *** Thraxian has left the game (leaving) 21:00:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> who is at SLH S 300? 21:01:19 <PublicServer> <thomashauk> Spotted that 21:01:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> the PF traps need to end with a signal 21:01:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> other wise they *can* cause jams 21:01:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 21:03:04 <Kolo> all this full trains tracks should be SML - SLH's would be a lot simpler :) 21:03:26 <V453000> this is experimental 21:03:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> and fits into this game :) 21:05:23 *** valhallasw has joined #openttdcoop 21:07:43 <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> there we go 21:07:52 <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> SLH N 500 tracks done 21:08:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 21:09:03 <PublicServer> <RockerTimmy> Oh I forgot to tell, SLH N 200 is ready too. 21:09:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> I just fixed some issues there 21:09:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> you need to have a combo in front of a not gate 21:09:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> for sure 21:09:53 <PublicServer> <Lukeus_Maximus> SLH S 300 need signalling on the prios 21:10:00 <PublicServer> <Lukeus_Maximus> I'll get it wrong if I do it 21:10:03 <PublicServer> <RockerTimmy> I think I still not understand those NOT-gates fully 21:10:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> you will when you see them work 21:10:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> Lukeus: give it a try at least 21:10:36 <PublicServer> <Lukeus_Maximus> ok 21:11:04 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003C6CB: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0003C6CB.png 21:11:05 <PublicServer> <Lukeus_Maximus> like that? 21:11:08 <PublicServer> <leg3nd> im giving up on even trying to make one. 21:11:10 <PublicServer> <leg3nd> : 21:11:20 <PublicServer> <thomashauk> I've built one 21:11:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> besides that combo it is ok 21:11:29 <PublicServer> <thomashauk> It's only taken forever 21:11:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> I converted it to combo from exit 21:11:36 <PublicServer> <leg3nd> those signals are really confusing me 21:12:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> quite exact copy there Victor :D 21:12:26 <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> that was my goal 21:12:36 <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> so i sure hope it is :) 21:12:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) well it is good 21:12:41 *** Giddorah has joined #openttdcoop 21:12:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> it guarantees it is made well ;) 21:12:50 <PublicServer> <RockerTimmy> I forgot prios 21:13:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> big problem Timmy 21:13:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> I think you will have to delete the whole merger 21:13:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> and redo it 21:13:38 <PublicServer> *** leg3nd has joined company #1 21:13:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> not the splitter 21:13:41 <PublicServer> <RockerTimmy> ok, 21:13:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> only the merger 21:13:47 <Giddorah> Sweet... Upgraded the computer... 8gb ram and a Nvidia Geforce 260 :) 21:13:58 <PublicServer> <leg3nd> how importan is it to have the PF trap the same size on both side ? 21:13:59 <PublicServer> <RockerTimmy> What do you mean with proper sync? 21:14:05 <Giddorah> !password 21:14:05 <PublicServer> Giddorah: cadets 21:14:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> size doesnt matter 21:14:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> @sync 21:14:16 <PublicServer> *** Giddorah joined the game 21:14:21 <PublicServer> <leg3nd> so one can be longer then the other ? 21:14:25 <V453000> @wiki sync 21:14:27 <Webster> Search results for "sync" - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Special:Search?go=Go&search=sync 21:14:35 <RockerTimmy> Thank you 21:14:40 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Uh oh... All junctions need those cool not-timer-not-gate-thingies? 21:14:49 <V453000> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Line_sync <- here 21:15:00 <V453000> Giddorah: yes 21:15:06 <V453000> all the SLH ->ML joins 21:15:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> but 21:15:21 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oh... I'll concentrate on other junctions then ;) 21:15:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> if you feel like not doing this, you can make a station 21:15:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> the other junctions will have the "is it space?" splitter 21:15:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> "is there space" 21:15:50 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Hehe! I can do "is it space" :) 21:15:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> or whatever 21:16:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> best would be if you made a station now 21:16:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> a drop 21:16:24 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Have to study the plan 21:16:26 <PublicServer> *** Lukeus_Maximus has left the game (leaving) 21:16:31 <PublicServer> *** headshot119 has left the game (leaving) 21:16:33 <Lukeus_Maximus> see you tomorrow 21:16:34 *** Headshot119 has quit IRC 21:16:35 <PublicServer> *** Razmir has left the game (leaving) 21:16:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> seeya 21:16:46 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> The plan is gone? 21:16:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> see sign? 21:17:15 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Ooooh 21:17:19 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I missed it 21:17:43 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Let's see... The drop-station needs 12 in and out lines? 21:18:00 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Or wait.. 6 in and 6 out 21:18:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> 6 line station 21:18:53 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Aight... And how wide do you want it? 12? 16? 21:18:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> leg: you can press V 21:19:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> to see it and copy 21:19:12 <PublicServer> <leg3nd> Nice thanks. 21:19:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> wide ... well ... 8 per line 21:19:16 <PublicServer> <leg3nd> that did help alot :> 21:19:17 <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> easy on the terraform there leg3nd 21:19:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> 8x6 21:19:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> 48 21:19:29 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Holy hell 21:19:34 <PublicServer> <leg3nd> soz about the TF :< 21:19:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> yea that is needles leg 21:19:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> needless 21:19:50 <PublicServer> <leg3nd> i can make it back 21:19:51 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> And it needs to be those SRNW-stations I read about in the article right? 21:19:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> but whatever 21:19:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> NO 21:20:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> just a normal drop 21:20:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> no balancing 21:20:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> just every line = 6 platforms 21:20:21 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oh! Aight 21:20:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> 8 21:20:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> platforms 21:20:39 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> 8 platforms / line? 21:20:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 21:20:48 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Gotcha! Last question... :P 21:20:53 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Do you want me to do A or B? :P 21:20:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> I dont care 21:21:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> choose 21:21:47 <thomashauk> You can fit 48 platforms into not much room if you don't need balancing 21:21:52 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Doesn't matter as long as it is on the ends of the map right? 21:22:04 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yeah... I'll try making it as space-efficient as possible 21:22:15 *** mixrin has quit IRC 21:22:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> and ... would be good if you kept all platforms per line in sync 21:22:53 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I'll do my best sir 21:22:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 21:22:59 <PublicServer> <thomashauk> Stagger the stations diagonally helps 21:23:06 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yes... That's my plan :) 21:23:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh 21:24:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> you make it wrong:) 21:24:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> wrong place 21:24:06 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oh 21:24:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> plus this wouldnt work 21:24:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> come to the west 21:24:26 <PublicServer> <pugi> oh, i forgot that i am still ingame :D 21:24:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> I will help you 21:24:35 *** Lukeus_Maximus has quit IRC 21:24:36 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I'm furthest west 21:24:48 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I see it 21:24:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> see !exit 21:24:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> there it exits ... the station 21:25:10 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 21:25:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> want me to show you a pattern of a station? 21:25:15 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oh... Needs to go up the middle... Offcourse :) It's according to plan :P 21:25:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> ... a good one 21:25:20 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I'd love to! 21:25:28 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> ... see that :P 21:26:07 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000089AC: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000089AC.png 21:26:07 <thomashauk> I wouldn't do it like that... 21:26:29 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> That's just beautiful :) 21:26:36 <PublicServer> <pugi> and boring :( 21:26:40 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Haha 21:27:14 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> That's 10 stations though :P 21:27:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 21:27:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> better more 21:27:25 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Aight :) 21:27:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> this design needs not to break 21:27:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> just copy this 21:27:42 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I will do :) 21:27:45 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Who's doing that? 21:28:19 *** Guest718 has joined #openttdcoop 21:28:19 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Well... It's not that good since trains that need to go to the outer platforms will lock upp the inner platforms 21:28:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> better 21:28:38 <PublicServer> <pugi> pbs at entry 21:28:38 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yeah... Can't have 8 platforms on one line :P 21:28:48 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I mean... One entrance-point 21:28:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> pbs doesnt solve anything 21:29:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> but it could be done like this: 21:29:10 <PublicServer> <thomashauk> It doesn't if you don't presignal 21:29:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> this works 21:29:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> no presignals nor pbs 21:30:05 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Well... I'll just go with the lower design :) Feels like it has good flow-capacity 21:30:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> but the long and straight one is working very well 21:30:19 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> So... The others are going away :P 21:30:26 <PublicServer> *** Kolo has left the game (leaving) 21:30:38 *** Kolo has quit IRC 21:30:43 <PublicServer> <pugi> how many of the long ones do you want to make? 21:30:45 <PublicServer> <pugi> 6? 21:30:49 <PublicServer> <pugi> or 3? 21:30:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> ye 21:30:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> 6 21:30:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> why 3 21:31:08 <PublicServer> <pugi> oh... i didn't expect 6 :D 21:31:35 <PublicServer> <pugi> i guess it could be shortened a bit? 21:31:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> could 21:31:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> but this is better 21:31:53 *** Guest718 has quit IRC 21:31:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> so trains join in the exit line in full speed 21:32:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> so they are synced 21:33:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> try to copy also the signalling 21:33:52 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oh 21:34:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> I marked the string to copy from 21:34:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> so you dont get confused :P 21:34:48 <PublicServer> <leg3nd> stupid quastion i, now i have made a stupid mistake with the TF what to do with the hill here ? 21:35:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> where? 21:35:21 <PublicServer> <leg3nd> slh600 21:35:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> ok but where is the hill 21:35:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> level it too 21:36:01 <PublicServer> <leg3nd> K 21:36:11 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 21:36:11 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 21:36:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> done ;) 21:36:49 <PublicServer> <leg3nd> thanks m8 21:37:28 <PublicServer> <pugi> sorry hill :( 21:38:53 *** Kolbur has joined #openttdcoop 21:41:01 <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> that station in the west is going to be massive :P 21:41:09 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00007DA2: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00007DA2.png 21:41:12 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 21:41:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> well ... no 21:41:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> note that it is done 21:41:26 <PublicServer> <pugi> uhm... 21:41:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> complete thing 21:41:32 <PublicServer> <pugi> your signalling is wrong :D 21:41:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> no balancers no mergers no joiners 21:41:46 <PublicServer> <pugi> i guess :P 21:41:48 <PublicServer> *** Thraxian joined the game 21:41:50 <PublicServer> <pugi> fixed 21:41:53 <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> s/going to be // 21:41:59 <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> :) 21:42:16 <PublicServer> <pugi> 2-way after every split? 21:42:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 21:42:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi Thraxian btw :) 21:43:00 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> hidey hi 21:43:54 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Woah... I can't even see the signals anymore... 21:44:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> also a success :D 21:44:41 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I think it's done 21:45:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> I will just go through the signals 21:45:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> well :) now the east 21:45:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> anyhow you want 21:45:26 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> And we need an identical to the east? 21:45:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> no 21:45:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> but it must work ;) 21:45:44 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Haha 21:45:57 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I liked those, so I'll just make another one :) 21:46:02 *** PeterT_ has joined #openttdcoop 21:46:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> :D ok 21:46:12 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> But that should be in the south-east corner... Right? 21:46:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> well this game should be insane so why not two identical 21:46:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> SE 21:46:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> yea 21:47:05 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oh. More hills :P 21:47:22 <PublicServer> <leg3nd> is it combo signals and exit signals we use ? 21:47:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> leg: where 21:48:46 <PublicServer> <leg3nd> think signals should be done by some one else :> 21:48:52 <PublicServer> <leg3nd> this is confusing like H :> 21:49:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> copy 21:49:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> copy 21:49:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> copy 21:49:34 <PublicServer> <pugi> this whole game is copy <.< 21:49:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> doesnt matter 21:49:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> later it will be better 21:49:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> the ML is important 21:50:08 <PublicServer> <leg3nd> is that some sort of hidding feture i dont know if. can i ctrl-c ctrl-v ? 21:50:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> there is a client-patch 21:50:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> that is able to copy things 21:50:34 <PublicServer> <pugi> i like how slh n 500 is an exact complex copy from 300 :D 21:50:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> 600 too 21:51:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> and 200 has the same splitter 21:51:25 <PublicServer> <pugi> yeah, 200 and 600 have same splitter 21:52:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> as long as it work I am happy 21:52:08 <PublicServer> <pugi> btw, isn't your prio on 300 on lane 2 too short or does it extent over bridges? 21:52:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> does extent 21:52:44 <PublicServer> <pugi> hm okay 21:52:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> the same as 4 6 and 6 21:53:28 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> who's building east drop? 21:53:43 <PublicServer> <pugi> move more north 21:53:51 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> also, not enough braking space 21:53:53 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I am 21:54:05 <PublicServer> *** VictorOfSweden has joined spectators 21:54:07 <PublicServer> <pugi> no space for the entry curves 21:54:16 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oh 21:54:17 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Haha 21:54:22 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> On it 21:54:39 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Entrance curve's need to be a minimum of 3 right? 21:54:50 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> also, make the first (westmost) split occur 43 tiles from map edge 21:54:56 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> that mirrors the west drop 21:55:15 *** ODM has quit IRC 21:55:18 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 21:55:19 *** PeterT__ has joined #openttdcoop 21:55:30 <PublicServer> <RockerTimmy> I think the merger on SLH N 200 is okay now... 21:55:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> should be fine 21:55:51 *** ziza has joined #openttdcoop 21:55:56 <ziza> !password 21:55:56 <PublicServer> ziza: purges 21:56:05 <PublicServer> *** ZiZa joined the game 21:56:11 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00004FE3: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00004FE3.png 21:56:14 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Aight 21:56:17 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Thanks for that :) 21:56:33 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> just watch out for town getting in the way though 21:56:42 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> It will 21:56:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> 666 ppl 21:56:46 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> Whitbridge is going to be a problem 21:56:49 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> evil town 21:56:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> raze? 21:56:58 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> destroy it in the name of the light! 21:57:04 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Well... 21:57:09 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> That sea needs to go too 21:57:22 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> If we want a complete mirror 21:57:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> I think you might be able to stuff it there 21:57:46 *** PeterT__ has quit IRC 21:57:49 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Can't I move it more east? 21:57:50 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Err 21:57:51 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> South 21:57:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> you can 21:58:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> as much as possible 21:58:43 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I could do it there 21:58:50 *** PeterT_ has quit IRC 22:02:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> waht is that 22:02:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> from 300 to 500 N 22:02:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh 22:02:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> to 600 22:02:37 <PublicServer> <pugi> damn, have to go for a bit :( 22:02:56 <pugi> bbl 22:03:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> cya 22:06:36 *** planetmaker has left #openttdcoop 22:08:04 *** planetmaker has joined #openttdcoop 22:08:04 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o planetmaker 22:08:17 <PublicServer> <leg3nd> Hmm looks good so far right at 600 22:09:40 *** planetmaker has left #openttdcoop 22:10:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 22:11:13 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002D019: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002D019.png 22:11:19 <PublicServer> <leg3nd> just those signals i cant see what is. :> 22:11:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> ah 22:12:15 <PublicServer> <leg3nd> u diong things ? 22:12:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 22:12:22 <PublicServer> <leg3nd> k 22:17:03 <PeterT> KenjiE20: Do you use a bouncer or something to make your hostname an IP number? 22:17:16 *** Kolbur has left #openttdcoop 22:18:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> should be ok 22:19:04 <PublicServer> <leg3nd> will make a copy more at 700 22:19:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 22:19:12 <PublicServer> <leg3nd> will u fix the signals there also 22:19:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> hmm 22:19:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> why not 22:19:41 <PublicServer> <leg3nd> Where thinking i could do as many i can. to get the rutine :> 22:21:22 <PublicServer> *** VictorOfSweden has joined company #1 22:23:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> who is adding the logic trains at N 500? 22:23:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> want advice? 22:24:03 <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> me 22:24:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> see this: 22:24:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> bes way how to do it 22:24:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> you delete the crossing 22:24:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> depot there 22:24:32 <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> 'k.. 22:24:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> add trains 22:24:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> delete depot 22:24:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> and now: 22:24:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> first this 22:24:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> and now release them 22:25:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> so they dont block your finishing of the signals or tracks 22:26:15 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003B665: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0003B665.png 22:28:14 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Aight... East is done... And I've got a mouse-arm... :P 22:28:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> hey 22:28:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> see this 22:28:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> x signal 22:28:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> important 22:28:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> else there are gaps 22:28:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> just fill these in 22:28:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> and it should be fine 22:28:56 *** Headshot119 has joined #openttdcoop 22:28:59 <Headshot119> !password 22:28:59 <PublicServer> Headshot119: awarer 22:29:00 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oooh 22:29:02 <Headshot119> !password 22:29:02 <PublicServer> Headshot119: awarer 22:29:05 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yeah... I was going to... I forgot :) 22:29:20 <PublicServer> *** headshot119 joined the game 22:29:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 22:29:48 <PublicServer> *** headshot119 has left the game (leaving) 22:30:38 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Done :) 22:30:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> ok :) 22:30:52 *** Headshot119 has quit IRC 22:31:06 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Phew :) Good station... But a pain to build :P 22:31:07 *** LG has quit IRC 22:31:19 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> You get lost in all the signals and tracks :P 22:31:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 22:31:33 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> You = I :P 22:31:34 <PublicServer> *** VictorOfSweden has joined spectators 22:36:44 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> What are ! These? for? 22:36:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> prio 22:37:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> see a finished hub to understand 22:37:12 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oki 22:37:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> by this the prio applies to both bridges 22:37:36 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Aaah 22:38:01 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Good thing someone invented pbs-signals... Or that would be a little bit more complicated ;) 22:38:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> you can just add a third prio lane 22:38:28 *** Progman has quit IRC 22:38:31 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Wouldn't look as good ;) 22:38:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 22:38:58 *** valhallasw has quit IRC 22:40:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> ok cool 22:40:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> I am off 22:40:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> too tired 22:40:25 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> G'nite 22:40:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> cya 22:40:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> ... work: needed to finish the SLHs, then needed to extend the inner MLs (drop exits) 22:41:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> if you lenghten them just straight, there will be a gap of 12 between them 22:41:17 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000332E8: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000332E8.png 22:41:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> so if you go around an obstacle, choose the path closer to edge of map 22:41:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> so there is 12 or more 22:41:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> but I expect you to go sleep too :P 22:42:04 <PublicServer> <leg3nd> yeah 22:42:19 <PublicServer> <leg3nd> going work tomorrow. 22:42:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> ya 22:42:34 <PublicServer> <leg3nd> but atleast this SLH did go faster. then the first 22:42:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> so good night guys :) 22:42:47 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 22:45:42 <PublicServer> *** Thraxian has joined spectators 22:48:33 *** deghosty has quit IRC 22:51:05 <PublicServer> *** ZiZa has left the game (leaving) 22:51:07 *** thomashauk has left #openttdcoop 22:51:09 *** ziza has quit IRC 22:51:10 <PublicServer> *** thomashauk has left the game (leaving) 22:53:15 <PublicServer> <pugi> back :) 22:54:27 *** NeosaD has quit IRC 22:56:19 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00035267: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00035267.png 22:56:31 *** Polygon has quit IRC 22:59:07 <PublicServer> *** Player joined the game 22:59:07 <Webster> Player, please change your in game nick 22:59:14 <PublicServer> *** Player has changed his/her name to Razmir 23:00:58 *** ^Spike^ has quit IRC 23:02:08 <PublicServer> *** Razmir has left the game (leaving) 23:02:15 *** planetmaker has joined #openttdcoop 23:02:15 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o planetmaker 23:02:17 <PublicServer> *** leg3nd has left the game (leaving) 23:08:53 *** KenjiE20 is now known as Guest727 23:08:57 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 23:08:57 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 23:11:12 *** Guest727 has quit IRC 23:11:21 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001B7E3: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001B7E3.png 23:13:37 *** KenjiE20 is now known as Guest728 23:13:40 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 23:13:40 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 23:17:17 *** Guest728 has quit IRC 23:18:06 <PublicServer> *** pugi has left the game (leaving) 23:24:30 <PublicServer> <RockerTimmy> Done :D 23:26:23 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003CE70: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0003CE70.png 23:39:20 <RockerTimmy> good nigth 23:39:31 *** RockerTimmy has quit IRC 23:39:42 <PublicServer> *** RockerTimmy has left the game (leaving) 23:39:43 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 23:41:25 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003D271: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0003D271.png 23:47:51 *** OwenS has quit IRC 23:48:16 *** thomashauk has joined #openttdcoop 23:48:22 <thomashauk> !password 23:48:22 <PublicServer> thomashauk: blight 23:48:44 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 23:48:45 <PublicServer> *** thomashauk joined the game 23:56:27 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003BADE: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0003BADE.png 23:58:53 *** pugi has quit IRC 23:59:15 <PublicServer> *** VictorOfSweden has left the game (leaving) 23:59:20 *** VictorOfSweden has quit IRC