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Log for #openttdcoop on 11th April 2010:
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00:33:14  <dashing> im trying to make a station that picks up x and delivers it to a nearby station
00:33:27  <dashing> when the trains reach the drop off station they just pick everything up again and go back to the first
00:33:30  <dashing> how do i prevent that ?
00:34:02  <V453000> ?
00:34:27  <V453000> I dont understand what you are doing
00:35:33  <dashing> i want to pick up coal at station A and drop it off at station B
00:35:40  <dashing> then other trains take the coal from B to C
00:35:58  <dashing> but when trains load up at A and drop the coal off at B, they just pick up the coal they dropped off and go back to A
00:36:16  <dashing> its called a "feeder" in the tutorial map
00:41:47  <V453000> ahh
00:41:49  <V453000> orders
00:41:57  <V453000> "transfer and leave empty"f
00:43:22  <dashing> aha
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01:29:56  <dashing> is there a way to automatically upgrade trains ?
01:30:07  <dashing> like a "go upgrade" command
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03:27:00  * mrruben5 wonders if game 180 needed a compressor: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Compressor
04:16:03  <FiCE> !info
04:16:03  <PublicServer> FiCE: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'planetmaker's World'  Year Founded: 1950  Money: 39773747  Loan: 0  Value: 40215640  (T:1, R:0, P:11, S:0) unprotected
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04:33:29  <KyleS> !password
04:33:29  <PublicServer> KyleS: aboded
04:34:14  <KyleS> !dl win32
04:34:14  <PublicServer> KyleS: http://nl.binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19594/openttd-trunk-r19594-windows-win32.zip
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06:51:19  <nighthawkcm> mornin folks
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08:42:38  <ODM> !password
08:42:38  <PublicServer> ODM: rubbed
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08:43:19  <baeda> morning!password
08:43:23  <ODM> almost mate
08:43:25  <baeda> ..
08:43:31  <ODM> you can reuse my password
08:43:36  <baeda> here goes nothing -.-
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08:44:00  <baeda> !password
08:44:00  <PublicServer> baeda: soften
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08:44:09  <baeda> yea good idea.
08:44:21  <PublicServer> <0DM> heh it changed:p
08:45:13  <baeda> i shouldnt touch that lappy just after crowling out of bed :/
08:46:07  <Absurd-Mind> !password
08:46:07  <PublicServer> Absurd-Mind: soften
08:46:19  <baeda> and crowling supposed to be crawling actually. oh my. where's the espresso bar when you need one
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08:47:01  <PublicServer> <0DM> i should add a plan
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08:48:13  <PublicServer> <baeda> btw... what's nantditch in /tneo's plan mean?
08:48:24  <PublicServer> <0DM> the name of the town where its at
08:48:46  <Lukeus_Maximus> great!
08:48:58  <Lukeus_Maximus> the server is on version 19594
08:49:09  <Lukeus_Maximus> and the current nightly is 19598!
08:49:20  <Lukeus_Maximus> how am I supposed to download a version?
08:49:45  <ODM> !download win32
08:49:45  <PublicServer> ODM: http://nl.binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19594/openttd-trunk-r19594-windows-win32.zip
08:49:57  <Lukeus_Maximus> thank you!
08:49:58  <ODM> assuming you are on win32
08:50:08  <Lukeus_Maximus> I'm 32bit win7
08:50:22  <ODM> same i think
08:50:42  <Lukeus_Maximus> should I just paste the contents over the previous nightly?
08:51:08  <Lukeus_Maximus> or will that fail hard?
08:51:30  <ODM> no that should work
08:51:42  <Lukeus_Maximus> gdgd
08:51:49  <baeda> ODM: okay. now that's embarrassing -.-
08:52:23  <PublicServer> <0DM> what?
08:52:31  <Lukeus_Maximus> !password
08:52:31  <PublicServer> Lukeus_Maximus: soften
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09:05:57  <baeda> ODM: you want to drop your plan? so i'll stay logged in (going to be away for few hours)
09:06:07  <PublicServer> <0DM> working on it
09:06:10  <PublicServer> <0DM> ill let you know when done
09:10:12  <baeda> organic network? meaning what?
09:10:32  <planetmaker> build to need
09:10:36  <baeda> extened where needs to be?
09:10:41  <PublicServer> <0DM> what he said
09:11:33  <baeda> right. just asking ;)
09:11:42  <PublicServer> <0DM> questions dont hurt
09:12:19  <baeda> naaaah who knows. some people asked too many questions never saw daylight again :P
09:12:27  <PublicServer> <0DM> lol
09:12:35  <PublicServer> <0DM> examplegame for me is 75, except one network instead of 3
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09:13:34  <PublicServer> <0DM> you can quit or spec baeda
09:13:39  <baeda> okay, going to look at it later. got to go now. you need me to stay logged in to finish your plan?
09:13:45  <baeda> ah :P
09:13:55  <baeda> till later then!
09:13:57  <PublicServer> <0DM> hehe
09:13:58  <PublicServer> <0DM> take care
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09:23:40  <avdg> !players
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09:46:43  <pugi> !dl win32
09:46:43  <PublicServer> pugi: http://nl.binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19594/openttd-trunk-r19594-windows-win32.zip
09:48:25  <pugi> !password
09:48:25  <PublicServer> pugi: weaken
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09:48:53  <pugi> omg
09:48:55  <pugi> my eyes hurt
09:49:23  <avdg> !password
09:49:23  <PublicServer> avdg: weaken
09:49:24  <avdg> :p
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09:52:56  <PublicServer> <avdg> hey
09:53:32  <PublicServer> <tneo> hello
09:54:23  <tneo> @seen kommer
09:54:23  <Webster> tneo: kommer was last seen in #openttdcoop 11 hours, 42 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: <Kommer> !password
09:54:34  <mo0069> heya
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10:01:37  <avdg> !password
10:01:37  <PublicServer> avdg: toxins
10:01:40  <avdg> whoops
10:01:44  <avdg> !screen
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10:01:57  <avdg> hmm
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10:13:04  <ODM> btw, ogfx hurts the eyes less in this game
10:18:12  <FS1063> imho, TTM is still the only possible way to play toyland w/o getting seizures
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10:21:27  <Ammler> FS1063: still? so you tried with opengfx?
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10:28:38  <FS1063> i see the screenshots :)
10:28:55  <FS1063> and it kept me away from joining few days ago
10:29:19  <Ammler> ok :-o
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10:35:43  <nighthawkcm> can anyone describe me how to create a overflow depot at a station entrance?
10:35:55  <V453000> depends how you want to make it
10:36:03  <V453000> if you want it conditional or forced
10:36:12  <V453000> the conditional type is in my blog article
10:36:38  <V453000> th other ... you just put a depot in front of a station and make sure there is no other way than through the depot
10:37:21  <V453000> ODM: you win for me :)
10:37:42  <V453000> !password
10:37:42  <PublicServer> V453000: falcon
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10:38:04  <V453000> lol you voted for me too :D
10:38:05  <V453000> omg
10:39:25  <Phazorx> nighthawkcm: are you doing it in solo game or here?
10:39:49  <V453000> he isnt in game ... but join and I can show you!
10:40:11  <Phazorx> V453000: my point was that generaly we dont have these aside of special case networking
10:40:32  <V453000> ah
10:40:35  <V453000> well depends
10:40:39  <nighthawkcm> solo game - I have a couple of coal mines that tremendously vary in output, creating a backwards jam onto the SL which jams into the ML
10:40:45  <V453000> he conditional overflow never hurts
10:40:54  <V453000> forced sux
10:41:08  <nighthawkcm> I have to do forced here I think
10:41:24  <Phazorx> V453000: havin trains waitin in depot instead of doing sometihng usefull is not so nice of a method
10:41:33  <V453000> well no
10:41:37  <Phazorx> i aim for all trains moving at all times
10:41:37  <V453000> they dont have to wait there
10:41:40  <V453000> and they shouldnt
10:41:43  <V453000> it is just conditional
10:42:00  <V453000> it fits only for secondaries
10:42:06  <Phazorx> i mean you should have as many trains as station needs
10:42:12  <V453000> yes sure
10:42:13  <Phazorx> if not enough - add if too many - remove
10:42:20  <V453000> but if production  changes ...
10:42:33  <Phazorx> so should number of trains servicing the route :)
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10:43:02  <V453000> well yeah but thats annoying
10:43:05  <Phazorx> considring that in most cases we use tiered industries that is either a lot of depoted trains or need of management
10:43:06  <V453000> if not impossible ;)
10:43:09  <Phazorx> and i lean towards second
10:43:15  <Phazorx> heh true
10:43:18  <V453000> yes sure
10:43:19  <Phazorx> but we have the manpower :)
10:43:23  <nighthawkcm> http://de.tinypic.com/r/35b5k7n/5
10:43:24  <Webster> Title: Image - TinyPic - Kostenlose Bild- und Videospeicherung und gemeinsame Nutzung von Fotos (at de.tinypic.com)
10:43:26  <V453000> I know what you are talking about ;) and I partially agree
10:43:59  <V453000> that is very slow hawk
10:44:00  <nighthawkcm> problem is the micromanagement of adding and subtracting trains which I can't handle manually solo .. and it is not a SRNW
10:44:09  <V453000> yes sure
10:44:11  <Phazorx> nighthawkcm: consider this - depot should be used only in case if there are too many trains
10:44:16  <V453000> ^
10:44:33  <nighthawkcm> Well I have too many at times, but as soon as Mine Production boosts I have too few :-/
10:44:43  <Phazorx> also trains ging to depot should not affect other trains
10:44:44  <V453000> btw. nice to see DB set <3
10:45:18  <Phazorx> so conditions are - trains enetering/exiting  depot should not interfere with trains getting to station
10:45:33  <Phazorx> i'd suggest a queue of one train in front of station
10:45:41  <Phazorx> followed by presignal
10:45:59  <Phazorx> er
10:46:19  <Phazorx> preceeded by presignal exit after a fork to depot
10:46:44  <V453000> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/images/a/a6/ConditionalOverflow01.png
10:46:45  <Phazorx> so rains would go to depot only in case if there is already one train waiting to enter the station
10:47:01  <Phazorx> tha one isbulky ad complex :)
10:47:03  <Phazorx> bt nice
10:47:04  <V453000> you can modify that as you want :)
10:47:20  <V453000> no Phazorx :) it is fairly ok for a secondary pickup
10:47:40  <V453000> if course for primary it is kinda too much ... but I just wanted to show the basis how it works
10:47:49  <V453000> I dont want him to copy :p
10:50:21  <nighthawkcm> http://de.tinypic.com/r/2i1h4eg/5
10:50:23  <Webster> Title: Image - TinyPic - Kostenlose Bild- und Videospeicherung und gemeinsame Nutzung von Fotos (at de.tinypic.com)
10:50:40  <pugi> btw, who chose toyland? <.<
10:50:49  <V453000> thats better hawk :)
10:50:52  <nighthawkcm> I tried this, but trains don't choose the depot path if the main path is full ....
10:51:08  <V453000> pugi: I made the map but I wasnt the only who suggested that :)
10:51:14  <pugi> hmm
10:51:18  <pugi> still eyehurt :D
10:51:24  <V453000> nighthawk: come in game on public server
10:51:28  <KenjiE20> oh shutup
10:51:33  <KenjiE20> toyland ftw
10:51:37  <V453000> ya
10:51:39  <V453000> ^
10:51:50  <V453000> btw. I dont use opengfx :D
10:52:00  <KenjiE20> neither do I
10:52:42  <nighthawkcm> !password
10:52:42  <PublicServer> nighthawkcm: wholes
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10:53:25  <PublicServer> <nighthawk_c_m> Here I am
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10:54:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> welcome
10:55:25  <PublicServer> <Kenji> mmmm, liquorice trees omnomnom
10:55:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> this would probably be the option of you
10:55:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
10:55:57  <nighthawkcm> Interesting, I still don't understand why some signals have to be two way ...
10:56:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> because trains are dumb
10:56:13  <PublicServer> <Kenji> technically you could put signals in the 1TL space to speed tranistions
10:56:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> so the first 2ways should enforce that they agree with goin thru the depot
10:56:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> well
10:56:36  <nighthawkcm> and the first exit on the main line shouldn't that ne a combo signal due to a following exit signal?
10:57:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> now it also works as prio
10:57:17  <nighthawkcm> ahhh .... ok
10:57:25  <PublicServer> <Kenji> there's not much point in the double track btw
10:57:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> lets get it moving
10:57:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> doesnt hurt
10:57:46  <PublicServer> <Kenji> it'd only be useful for PBS
10:57:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> but yes, its pointless
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11:00:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> wa
11:00:52  <PublicServer> <Kenji> lol
11:01:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> o_O
11:01:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh lol
11:01:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> no orders ...
11:01:40  <PublicServer> <avdg> ahh that explains the background sound :p
11:01:46  <PublicServer> <avdg> trains :)
11:02:14  <nighthawkcm> Ok nI get the image on how it should be done - gonna switch clients and check it in my game
11:02:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> well this is kind of it, nighthawk :)
11:02:30  <nighthawkcm> and I made myself a screene to keep for later times untill I am used to it
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11:03:33  <PublicServer> <avdg> :p
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11:05:18  <PublicServer> <avdg> don't use mass destruction if you remove rails :(
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11:05:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> lazy
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11:18:50  <nighthawkcm> what type of signal did you place at the split to the depot after the exit signal?
11:18:57  <ODM> !password
11:18:58  <PublicServer> ODM: scopes
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11:20:40  <nighthawkcm> what type of signal did you place after the exit signal at the depot split
11:20:47  <ODM> uh
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11:21:17  <V453000> :)
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11:22:12  <nighthawkcm> ok, figured its pbs - but why point the wrong way?
11:22:47  <ODM> oh that one
11:22:50  <ODM> it counts as a penalty
11:23:01  <nighthawkcm> penalty?
11:23:02  <ODM> so trains try to avoid taking that route
11:23:11  <ODM> yes, a high penalty value for the pathfinder
11:23:16  <nighthawkcm> ah ok
11:23:42  <nighthawkcm> so that should be used on depots at the ML toot o avoid them takinga "shortcut"
11:24:32  <ODM> depots on the ml are generally on a seperate track, without the ability to pass through without entering the depot
11:24:37  <ODM> the depot itself is the penalty then
11:25:15  <V453000> ye
11:25:30  <V453000> I just added it because it failed ... but the PBSes shouldnt be needed
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11:25:59  <Xarx> lo
11:26:02  <Xarx> !download
11:26:02  <PublicServer> Xarx: !download autostart|autottd|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x
11:26:04  <V453000> y
11:26:07  <ODM> well in your case you lure them into it with the single station tile on the left
11:26:09  <ODM> so you need it
11:26:11  <Xarx> !download win32
11:26:12  <PublicServer> Xarx: http://nl.binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19594/openttd-trunk-r19594-windows-win32.zip
11:26:51  <PublicServer> <0DM> if you turn trees off, its actually just temperate:P
11:27:14  <PublicServer> <0DM> also, if you zoom out with ogfx, the drop trees look like missing sprites
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11:28:35  <leg3nd^> !password
11:28:41  <leg3nd^> _Z
11:28:44  <V453000> :D
11:28:51  <ODM> timing is key
11:28:53  <leg3nd^> perfect timing :>
11:29:29  <ODM> "woops"
11:29:56  <Ammler> lol
11:30:09  <Ammler> sorry, stopped wrong server will be up soon
11:30:11  <ODM> no worries mate:p
11:30:30  <V453000> :)
11:30:46  * V453000 is glad someone else did something wrong
11:30:50  <V453000> :PPP
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11:31:00  <ODM> we do that all the time
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11:31:09  <ODM> atleast you didnt lose a savegame:P
11:31:12  <V453000> but not that frequent as me :P
11:31:24  <ODM> !password
11:31:24  <PublicServer> ODM: guffaw
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11:31:37  <nighthawkcm> now it works, too many PBS mkes the penalty too high and totally prevents them from entering
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11:32:14  <ODM> yes
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11:32:31  <ODM> at some point it overrules the penaly of a full station
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11:32:52  <V453000> :)
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11:33:14  <nighthawkcm> do only pBS have a penalty, or is that the reason why two way signals are used so often
11:33:30  <ODM> everything has a penalty, its just the value thats different
11:33:58  <ODM> so a train on the rails, a station, normal signals, a road crossing even
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11:35:01  <nighthawkcm> ah ok ... and a suggestion, someone should make a wikki article on why exactly sometimes you need two way signals instead of one way, I haven#t understood that so far
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11:36:03  <Guest2055> !dl win64
11:36:03  <PublicServer> Guest2055: http://nl.binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19594/openttd-trunk-r19594-windows-win64.zip
11:36:38  <ODM> hm there isnt an article about that?
11:36:50  <ODM> its quite tricky to use them properly for sure
11:37:25  <V453000> o_O
11:37:31  <V453000> true
11:37:37  <V453000> I also dont know about any
11:37:43  <ODM> i will write one later today alright?
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11:37:57  <nighthawkcm> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Signalling
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11:38:11  <ODM> thanks for pointing it out
11:38:34  <nighthawkcm> thats whats on the wikki - and I figure more and more problems out in my network, mainly because of signals .. but unsure how to solve them
11:39:15  <ODM> ill send you a notice when ive done it ok?
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11:39:49  <nighthawkcm> Cool yepp
11:40:03  <theholyduck> !dl win64
11:40:03  <PublicServer> theholyduck: http://nl.binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19594/openttd-trunk-r19594-windows-win64.zip
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11:41:22  <PublicServer> theholyduck: guffaw
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11:41:40  <theholyduck> hmm, oops
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11:43:55  <mrruben5> hmm, was wondering
11:44:03  <mrruben5> If I have a drop roro and a pickup roro, both with the same overflow, can I give trains that want to unload stuff in the drop roro prio over trains that want to load stuff?
11:44:03  <mrruben5> or do I need to make a second overflow?
11:44:20  <mrruben5> Or is it better to just combine both stations
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11:44:41  <ODM> i advise against combining stations
11:45:32  <nighthawkcm> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Presignal_Bypass_Station would be the only combined system I#d ever use because you still divide the trains and tracks
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11:46:09  <ODM> and you can easily make it 2 stations;)
11:48:00  <nighthawkcm> yeah but the presignal bypass station looks cool and fancy ^
11:48:08  <V453000> :/
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11:49:00  <V453000> psb doesnt do much useful
11:49:20  <V453000> once a long time ago I was improving it with logic ... but the station got a bit overgrown :-D
11:50:16  <nighthawkcm> well, I assume when you have a large amount of trains running it begins to caus eproblems, but as an example for a large Feeder it works awesome as far as I figured out using it
11:50:27  <theholyduck> so V453000 about your planthingy, can't this result in some parts of the track being massivly overused due to the pathfinder deciding them shorter?
11:50:48  <V453000> no
11:50:53  <V453000> there is penalty
11:51:02  <V453000> oh planthingy
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11:51:10  <V453000> no, we should force the right paths
11:51:36  <V453000> and when you look how it looks on the map, the paths should be fine
11:51:43  <theholyduck> V453000, well i just remember a older game i played that called for a bypass somewhere to aliviate traffic, but then every train decided to pick the bypass
11:51:45  <V453000> the scheme doesnt show that very well I admit
11:51:56  <V453000> hehe
11:51:57  <theholyduck> creating more problems than it solved
11:52:07  <V453000> that shouldnt happen here
11:52:08  <nighthawkcm> I know that problem
11:53:15  <mrruben5> hmm but with a PSB station, are trains allowed to enter all tracks?
11:53:48  <mrruben5> if you have RR then a train will only see 50% of the station
11:54:25  <mrruben5> or maybe I need to balance my RR before the station :)
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11:55:58  <theholyduck> dont you just make your LL_RR into a L_R_R_L with some balancing for a PSB station?
11:56:56  <theholyduck> or rather, you could?
11:57:40  <V453000> I think psb isnt very good
11:57:46  <V453000> takes much space and works the same as normal signals
11:57:48  <V453000> almost
11:59:31  <mrruben5> my main stations are preferably all to all roro
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12:01:06  <theholyduck> V453000, these days with a bit of penalty and pbs, you could do the same thing without the spacing
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12:01:13  <theholyduck> pretty much atleast
12:01:42  <V453000> these days :)
12:02:00  <theholyduck> well yeah, the PSB was designed and implemented before pbs signals right?
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12:02:31  <V453000> I think yes
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12:05:28  <ODM> someone poke me when we start please^^
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12:06:33  <snc> good morning!
12:06:36  <pugi> ODM, we will twitter ;)
12:07:12  <mrruben5> hmm, two stations, so two overflows and 2 waypoints?
12:07:32  <ODM> which i wont follow:P
12:07:48  <pugi> :P
12:08:24  <PublicServer> <sonic> remember 'KISS'?
12:08:43  <V453000> shortcut for "kiss my ass"
12:08:54  <V453000> ok ... it is Keep it simple, stupid
12:08:58  <PublicServer> <sonic> :D
12:09:22  <valhallasw> make love, not war!
12:09:29  <pugi> all you need is love...
12:09:41  <pugi> !password
12:09:41  <PublicServer> pugi: milder
12:09:43  <valhallasw> and a computer to play coop.
12:09:54  <V453000> :D
12:09:57  <theholyduck> V453000, can we label your plan something like "The crazy super-colider" or something to that effect?
12:10:05  <V453000> grrr
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12:10:11  <V453000> it isnt complicated
12:10:17  <theholyduck> V453000, well, i did vote for it
12:10:20  <V453000> :)
12:10:22  <theholyduck> it looks nice and weird.
12:10:24  <V453000> thats enough for me :)
12:10:36  <V453000> it looks weird because I find it difficult to scratch this
12:10:44  <V453000> but on the map it looks sweet
12:11:18  <theholyduck> V453000, basicly, 1 line through every island thingy?
12:11:23  <theholyduck> is how it seems to me :P
12:11:55  <V453000> basically yes
12:12:00  <V453000> but on some spots it is bypassed
12:12:22  <theholyduck> got to be some pretty damn compact bbh's though,
12:12:27  <theholyduck> if you want to have that many of them
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12:12:40  <nighthawkcm> If I want to go from a LLL5RRR ML to a LL_RR SL it is best to create a BBH with a following 3-> Merge?
12:12:43  <V453000> LL_RR hub can be very small
12:12:44  <Barbaar> hey everyone
12:12:56  <nighthawkcm> depends on TL
12:13:12  <V453000> LL_RR with CL3 is fine
12:13:14  <pugi> his TL is 8 :P
12:13:19  <V453000> but CL is 3
12:13:23  <Barbaar> !password
12:13:24  <PublicServer> Barbaar: milder
12:13:24  <V453000> that is a huge advantage
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12:13:42  <PublicServer> <sonic> is that because of the 4 engines?
12:13:44  <nighthawkcm> but why 3 - speed penalty?
12:14:00  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> its 2x doublesided engines
12:14:26  <V453000> maximum speed is 152
12:14:34  <V453000> CL3 allows 160
12:14:35  <nighthawkcm> ah ok
12:14:42  <V453000> and that rocks
12:15:04  <theholyduck> well yeah, then you can have pretty compact bbh's just from few lines and short cl
12:15:16  <V453000> ye
12:15:21  <V453000> thas the point
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12:17:00  <theholyduck> hmm, i'm unsure if i like ODM's plan moar than V453000 's or not
12:17:03  <nighthawkcm> is it possible to create a logic at a split to make every first train choose path 1 and every second train path 2?
12:17:07  <PublicServer> <sonic> me too
12:17:18  <V453000> they are very similar
12:17:18  <PublicServer> <sonic> see PSG 180 :)
12:17:18  <ODM> heh
12:17:38  <theholyduck> nighthawkcm, i'
12:17:39  <PublicServer> <sonic> you wont miss it :D
12:17:42  <theholyduck> ve seen it done
12:17:44  <V453000> nighthawk: see psg 175, V453000 playground
12:20:44  <pugi> [14:17:03] <nighthawkcm> is it possible to create a logic at a split to make every first train choose path 1 and every second train path 2? <-- yes
12:20:48  <pugi> a simple flipflop
12:20:58  <Barbaar> "simple"
12:21:02  <pugi> :P
12:21:34  <pugi> http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2010/03/25/advanced-building-revue-02-splits/
12:21:35  <pugi> see here
12:21:48  <pugi> almost all the way down
12:22:48  <V453000> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/images/9/98/Psg175_flipflop1.png this one
12:23:01  <V453000> if you want it 1:2
12:23:08  <V453000> if 1:1 then the very first one :)
12:23:16  <pugi> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/images/1/10/SPLITS_06_flipflop.png
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12:24:25  <V453000> yes
12:24:32  <nighthawkcm> but the first in the fail safe version - what kind of train do i use int he logic?
12:25:14  <V453000> that is the kind we used int the last game
12:25:27  <V453000> if there is space at the waiting bay, train is forced to go there
12:29:39  <theholyduck> V453000, i changed my vote to potentially speed things up
12:29:44  <theholyduck> ;(
12:29:53  <KenjiE20> bad duck
12:29:55  <V453000> you bitch!
12:29:57  <V453000> :P
12:30:06  <snc> :)
12:30:07  <theholyduck> well odm had the same amount of votes as you with me voting for you :P
12:30:07  <KenjiE20> :)
12:30:20  <theholyduck> by switching, odm now has 5 and the others have 3
12:30:26  <V453000> hehe
12:30:34  <ODM> how cheat
12:30:36  <KenjiE20> voting to 'start the game' is bad
12:30:40  <theholyduck> ;(
12:30:45  <theholyduck> well i liked both plans about equal
12:31:03  <theholyduck> not to mention, they're pretty simelar :P
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12:31:17  <ODM> still, dont vote to get started;)
12:31:23  <ODM> im warcrafting atm^^
12:31:29  <V453000> W3? :)
12:31:43  * V453000 likes
12:31:51  <KenjiE20> meh Warcraft
12:32:00  <pugi> probably wowing <.<
12:32:06  <ODM> w3
12:32:07  <KenjiE20> lets take everything everybody else has thought of, and make a really generic universe
12:32:11  <pugi> ah ok :)
12:32:14  <ODM> bayus best cafe
12:33:31  <ODM> lvl 12, but well probably die at 18P
12:33:36  <nighthawkcm> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/images/1/10/SPLITS_06_flipflop.png this splits 1:1 right?
12:33:54  <PublicServer> <sonic> yes
12:33:54  <pugi> yes
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12:39:41  <V453000> !password
12:39:41  <PublicServer> V453000: podium
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12:40:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeey airports with smileys D:
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12:42:09  <ODM> aw come on, that wins
12:42:11  <ODM> you have to admit:P
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12:52:31  <mrruben5> !password
12:52:31  <PublicServer> mrruben5: brides
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12:52:51  <mrruben5> are they virgins too :D?
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12:53:16  <ODM> lol
12:55:33  * mrruben5 wonders if trains coming from an overflow and going to a pickup station should have prio
12:56:45  <ODM> no normal have prio
12:56:52  <ODM> imo
12:58:28  <KenjiE20> yes
12:58:41  <mrruben5> http://img.openttdcoop.org/?v=schermafbe.png
12:58:46  <KenjiE20> if the overflow had prio, you'd end up with all the trains going to the overflow
12:58:53  <mrruben5> place a depot on the overflow track?
12:59:43  <KenjiE20> depends how many trains you expect there to be
12:59:48  <KenjiE20> yes to be safe
13:00:05  <ODM> oh that kind of overflow
13:00:08  <ODM> with a depot id say no
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13:12:49  <pugi> no overflow
13:12:50  <pugi> here too
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13:13:51  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm, didnt we ban chaos? :P
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13:19:34  <ODM> i unbanned it.
13:23:38  <XeryusTC> tssk
13:26:13  <pugi> ^^
13:29:31  <theholyduck> how come the last game i played before i left was a toyland game
13:29:33  <baeda> hey there everyone ;)
13:29:36  <theholyduck> and the first i play now is one?
13:29:43  <theholyduck> toyland != easy on the eyes
13:29:54  <theholyduck> though its easier with opengfx i guess
13:30:38  <PeterT> That's because OpenGFX broke the purity of Toyland
13:30:52  <baeda> !password
13:30:52  <PublicServer> baeda: oldens
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13:31:06  <theholyduck> PeterT, you mean the headache inducement dont you?
13:31:16  <ODM> duck, i blame you, we never play toyland:P
13:31:18  <PeterT> yes, theholyduck
13:31:39  <theholyduck> ODM, you have in now 2 of the games i've been in
13:31:42  <theholyduck> bastards!
13:32:08  <hylje> Toyland!
13:32:24  <ODM> we do it just to annoy you
13:34:10  <theholyduck> heck, this is like, the 4th game i've been in
13:34:22  <Vitus> !password
13:34:22  <PublicServer> Vitus: shafts
13:34:33  <theholyduck> PublicServer, stiff, long shafts?
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13:35:03  <theholyduck> ODM, :O you're winning by a landslide now
13:35:19  <PeterT> !tell theholyduck !password
13:35:20  <PublicServer> theholyduck: shafts
13:35:47  <theholyduck> 7 vs 3 vs 2 vs 1 vs 0 votes :P
13:36:37  <ODM> landslide?
13:36:39  <ODM> what happened?:O
13:37:08  <theholyduck> well, more people voted for you..
13:37:23  <baeda> ODM: it happened that you dropped a few lines of text a few hours ago and noe seem to win the big pot :P
13:37:28  <ODM> lol
13:37:32  <theholyduck> now you got 8 people voting for you
13:37:39  <ODM> you guys better work well, if it fails, we have to reban chaos!
13:37:44  <ODM> a lot is riding on this!
13:37:57  <theholyduck> i think this is some sort of peer presure
13:38:02  <theholyduck> everyone else is doing it!
13:38:09  <ODM> thats no good
13:38:18  <baeda> you better drop a nice bunch of notes on the building sites ODM :P
13:38:39  <theholyduck> ODM, well, research shows that say, in a 3 man group
13:38:53  <theholyduck> if 2 people answer a question in a manner thats plainly wrong
13:39:02  <theholyduck> the last person will agree with them, just to fit in
13:39:10  <theholyduck> quite alot of the time atleast :p
13:39:18  <ODM> ahyeah
13:39:19  <ODM> thats bad
13:39:42  <theholyduck> ODM, well its called being human
13:40:12  <baeda> just remember of the lemmings...
13:40:27  <theholyduck> baeda, apparently, lemmings dont do ritualistic suicides
13:40:34  <theholyduck> *mass
13:40:40  <baeda> no. they just look cute.
13:40:47  <ODM> youre right duck
13:40:56  <ODM> im on lvl 29 btw will be in the game in a min
13:42:04  <XeryusTC> it is true that loads of people vote for the plan which has been voted on the most :o
13:42:20  <XeryusTC> we should have some kind of anonymous voting system :P
13:42:35  <hylje> voting web
13:42:45  <hylje> no peeking at the ballot
13:42:54  <XeryusTC> let's have general elections and campaigning!
13:43:28  <ODM> hehe
13:43:31  <ODM> i vote palin!
13:44:43  <Vitus> Hmmm... V453000 and ODM have both good plans. But I don't like TL>5, so my vote went to ODM
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13:45:35  <ODM> his tl isnt a problem here really
13:45:48  <Vitus> I haven't said it is
13:45:52  <ODM> ah true;)
13:45:55  <ODM> preference i guess
13:46:13  <XeryusTC> my plan would've worked better on the previous map
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13:46:44  <XeryusTC> and i put it up on there, but it is pointless to make a plan if someone else makes a plan with something experimental which just has been blogged about xD
13:47:00  <ODM> which is that?
13:47:14  <Vitus> I think PSG180 was huge success
13:47:31  <ODM> oh wait last game
13:47:39  <baeda> the no-orders one?
13:47:43  <Vitus> Yup
13:48:05  <baeda> couldn't follow that one... was on vacancy :D
13:48:55  <theholyduck> i was thinking of starting a bit earlier, came in and saw the psg180 game wich was O_O
13:48:59  <theholyduck> so i decided to wait
13:49:28  <theholyduck> hmm, i havent played with this in a while, but why does a train with empty wagons have such trouble reaching its top speed?
13:49:31  <ODM> where were you anyway^^
13:49:43  <theholyduck> ODM, doing other things than openttd :P
13:50:04  <theholyduck> then at tg i played some with friends
13:50:15  <theholyduck> and i remembered that coop games can be fun
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13:53:20  <ODM> true
13:53:23  <ODM> tg?
13:53:34  <theholyduck> the gathering,
13:53:41  <theholyduck> huge norwegian computer party
13:54:09  <XeryusTC> founders of gothic metal
13:54:54  <ODM> aaah
13:54:58  <ODM> never been:P
13:55:02  <theholyduck> http://www.gathering.org/tg08/gallery/albums/brukerbilder/Thomas_Gruber-aka-qip_Virusmaster-1206109913.jpg ODM
13:55:10  <theholyduck> a nice panorama of it
13:55:16  <theholyduck> from 2 years ago
13:55:38  <ODM> fancy
13:55:49  <ODM> i think id prefer campzone
13:59:45  <Ammler> !playercount
13:59:45  <PublicServer> Ammler: Number of players: 8
14:00:06  <ODM> yeahyeah almost there:P
14:00:17  <ODM> last bosslevel^^
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14:06:08  <ODM> gogo webster go
14:06:42  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> if we had a PAX plan i could play "the passenger" all day long
14:06:51  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> its such a great song
14:06:56  <ODM> hm
14:07:48  <ODM> great, bsod
14:08:22  <Vitus> I love BSOD.. oh, wait.
14:09:02  <baeda> who built that circle of trains there with 305out of 321km/h?
14:09:06  <Webster> Latest update from blog: Logging and statistics <http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2010/04/11/logging-and-statistics/>
14:09:11  <Vitus> Me
14:09:30  <Vitus> I can get rid of it, if you want
14:09:38  <theholyduck> well its easy to get rid off
14:09:41  <baeda> so this would be because of TL1 diagonal = 1.5TL length?
14:09:42  <theholyduck> just hit stop on 1 of the trains :P
14:09:53  <baeda> nah i dont care :P
14:09:57  <Vitus> Yeah, right. That's not really clear solution :D
14:10:16  <Vitus> They don't have max speed because they weight 95 tones
14:10:23  <theholyduck> those trains seemed to hate going top speed aswell.
14:10:35  <baeda> they wont go top speed at all?
14:10:38  <theholyduck> they will
14:10:38  <baeda> sec
14:10:40  <theholyduck> just not easily
14:10:50  <theholyduck> i tried hooking up 5 wagons + 2 of those engines
14:10:59  <theholyduck> and still only hit 305 km/h
14:11:13  <ODM> !password
14:11:13  <PublicServer> ODM: afield
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14:11:22  <Vitus> I said it, they are just too fat :D
14:11:36  <PublicServer> <baeda> lets see downhill accel
14:11:37  <theholyduck> 2 engines and no wagons will hit 325 though
14:11:39  <PublicServer> <0DM> ellow
14:11:49  <theholyduck> on flat land
14:11:53  <PublicServer> <baeda> 319 top downhill...
14:12:14  <PublicServer> <0DM> are we watching slow monorail?:p
14:12:24  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Yeah :D
14:12:35  <PublicServer> <0DM> lol
14:12:46  <PublicServer> <baeda> hypnotizing more people to vote for your plan ODM :P
14:12:53  <PublicServer> <0DM> heh
14:12:55  <PublicServer> <Vitus> :D
14:12:56  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> hmm, level 2 engine ones hit 321
14:12:57  <PublicServer> <0DM> maglev is only in 2030 or so
14:13:16  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> level ground 2 engine that is
14:13:22  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> level ground 1 wont :P
14:13:32  <PublicServer> <0DM> if monorail is so slow, that wont work:p
14:14:09  <PublicServer> <baeda> btw ODM what magley engines you want to use? lev3 2 engines?
14:14:18  <PublicServer> <0DM> lev3? youre optimistic
14:14:18  <baeda> maglev*
14:14:26  <PublicServer> <0DM> this is toyland!
14:14:40  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> either way, i think ODM is the winnar
14:14:47  <PublicServer> <0DM> i guess
14:15:08  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hmm... this maglev train has just 5000hp, compared to 9000hp of X2001
14:15:15  <PublicServer> <Vitus> I meant..
14:15:17  <PublicServer> <Vitus> monorail
14:15:28  <PublicServer> <0DM> the maglev has 10khp
14:16:13  <PublicServer> <0DM> im in a bit of a tight spot: start with slow monorail, then change later (as plan says), or change the date to 2025
14:16:15  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Do you think we'll need double engines?
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14:16:47  <PublicServer> <0DM> yes
14:16:52  <V453000> is there a !pause command for a certain amount of time?
14:16:59  <ODM> no idea
14:17:05  <XeryusTC> ODM: you should use monorail :P
14:17:07  <V453000> not just here, in general
14:17:11  <XeryusTC> the engine has a bit less speed, but more power
14:17:17  <XeryusTC> thus better traction
14:17:20  <PublicServer> <0DM> uh no, it hasnt
14:17:28  <XeryusTC> the traction on the maglev engine is very poor :P
14:17:44  <Lukeus_Maximus> !password
14:17:44  <PublicServer> Lukeus_Maximus: papacy
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14:18:01  <PublicServer> <0DM> traction is not my thing:p
14:18:18  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> reminds me of that manga that has some guy powersliding a tram
14:18:19  <XeryusTC> it helps keeping your trains on speed though
14:18:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> can I declare ODM a winner? :)
14:18:26  <XeryusTC> and prevents you from building huge prios :P
14:18:34  <XeryusTC> V453000: sure
14:18:36  <PublicServer> <0DM> hehe
14:18:42  <PublicServer> <0DM> im saving the game a bit to do some tests, brb
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14:19:01  <V453000> @stage building
14:19:01  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #181 (r19594) | STAGE: building | http://openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart & !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | Welcome to the depths of insanity"
14:20:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> omg
14:20:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> the monorail is so weak
14:20:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> SO
14:20:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> :(
14:20:20  <Lukeus_Maximus> nevermind
14:20:23  <theholyduck> http://resources.bplondon.org/images/antiinspiration/multi-track-drifting.jpg
14:20:26  <theholyduck> what i was talking about
14:20:27  <ODM> k im changing date
14:20:32  <theholyduck> MULTI TRACK DRIFTING!
14:20:35  <ODM> maglev > monorail
14:20:41  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Indeed.
14:20:53  <baeda> theholyduck: fancy.
14:21:00  <theholyduck> because traction is overrated
14:21:05  <XeryusTC> old :P
14:21:12  <theholyduck> XeryusTC, yeah
14:21:16  <theholyduck> i just remembered it
14:21:20  <XeryusTC> !info
14:21:20  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'planetmaker's World'  Year Founded: 1950  Money: 57251820  Loan: 0  Value: 58032656  (T:9, R:0, P:12, S:0) unprotected
14:21:31  <XeryusTC> what year is it in game?
14:21:37  <baeda> 2004
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14:21:43  <ODM> i changed it to 2024
14:21:44  <ODM> uploading
14:22:12  <XeryusTC> ODM: if it starts to desync and whatnot it is your fault ;)
14:22:20  <ODM> why should it desync?:(
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14:22:28  <XeryusTC> you'd never know :P
14:22:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> lol :)
14:22:36  <XeryusTC> maybe cheating has that effect!
14:22:37  <ODM> ill blame some coder then
14:22:48  <ODM> you want me to fast forward it?:P
14:22:55  <baeda> if it is we're getting rid of toyland? :P
14:23:19  <ODM> !rcon load 2
14:23:24  <ODM> hm:P
14:23:28  <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players)
14:23:33  <baeda> !password
14:23:33  <PublicServer> baeda: papacy
14:23:36  <Lukeus_Maximus> !password
14:23:36  <PublicServer> Lukeus_Maximus: papacy
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14:23:46  <ODM> did it work?
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14:23:50  <baeda> worked.
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14:24:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> ya
14:24:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> good
14:24:20  <PublicServer> <Vitus> It's the time machine!
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14:24:32  <PublicServer> <0DM> alright, ill place some markers
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14:24:39  <theholyduck> !password
14:24:39  <PublicServer> theholyduck: papacy
14:24:42  <V453000> now command the chaos ODM :)
14:24:46  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i feel like stopping one of those trains :P
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14:24:55  <PublicServer> <0DM> ill give it a go V
14:25:13  <baeda> XeryusTC: I got the finger on the trigger for 15 mins now :P
14:25:21  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Much better now.
14:25:52  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> and the maglev train easily reaches its top speed, even while towing
14:26:05  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> unlike these silly monorails
14:26:08  <PublicServer> <0DM> hehe
14:26:17  <PublicServer> <0DM> try to find out if we need double heads
14:26:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes we do
14:26:34  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Yeah, it has same horse power as two monorails, and weights just 120 tones - unlike 2x95
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14:26:56  <PublicServer> <0DM> marking drop locations
14:27:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> es we do :)
14:27:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> 2 heads are barely ok
14:27:41  <PublicServer> <0DM> aw all industries have gonerd:p
14:27:48  <PublicServer> <baeda> ha. V cheated on the Winner's declared-year aswell.
14:27:50  <Absurd-Mind> !dl linuc
14:27:50  <PublicServer> Absurd-Mind: unknown option "linuc"
14:27:52  <Absurd-Mind> !dl linux
14:27:52  <PublicServer> Absurd-Mind: unknown option "linux"
14:27:54  <Absurd-Mind> !dl
14:27:54  <PublicServer> Absurd-Mind: !dl autostart|autottd|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x
14:27:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> lol
14:28:02  <Absurd-Mind> !dl lin
14:28:02  <PublicServer> Absurd-Mind: http://nl.binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19594/openttd-trunk-r19594-linux-generic-i686.tar.bz2
14:28:04  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> well, i guess its time to make our own then?
14:28:42  <Absurd-Mind> !password
14:28:42  <PublicServer> Absurd-Mind: papacy
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14:29:14  <Webster> Player, please change your in game nick
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14:29:46  <PublicServer> <0DM> aight i marked 6 drop locations
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14:30:09  <PublicServer> <SmatZ> hello
14:30:12  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey
14:30:13  <PublicServer> <0DM> oh only 5* sorry
14:30:15  <PublicServer> <0DM> hey smatz
14:30:15  <V453000> hi
14:30:19  <PublicServer> <baeda> hey
14:30:26  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> hmm, double headed is only about  1 trainlenght slower back and forth on my testroute
14:30:26  <PublicServer> <SmatZ> hello ODM :)
14:30:29  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> than single headed
14:30:42  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> ofcourse, it adds up
14:30:43  <PublicServer> <0DM> as unholy ruler i declare doubleheaded
14:30:47  <PublicServer> <0DM> for, they look awesome
14:30:54  <PublicServer> <baeda> word!
14:31:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> how do we want the drops to look like?
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14:31:23  <PublicServer> <0DM> we want them to look nice
14:31:24  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Yeah, doubleheaded will be needed. If you take in account you do test with empty wagons...
14:31:27  <PublicServer> <0DM> or did you have more in mind?
14:31:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> ghe ... if we want to make some kinda ML
14:31:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> so where to direct them
14:31:55  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i thought the point of chaos was that a mainline would emerge eventually?
14:32:01  <PublicServer> <0DM> what duck said
14:32:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> this is semichaos! :D
14:32:14  <PublicServer> <0DM> thats only because i said where to drop;)
14:32:28  <PublicServer> <0DM> anyway guys, good luck
14:32:31  <PublicServer> <0DM> dont forget, clean building!
14:32:34  <PublicServer> <0DM> or itll be trashed
14:32:44  <PublicServer> <0DM> sortof:p
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14:33:01  <Lukeus_Maximus> somone change the phase to "building"
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14:33:09  <PublicServer> <0DM> any line should be LR, if you cross a line, make a junction
14:33:15  <PublicServer> <0DM> if it jams, make it bigger
14:33:30  <PublicServer> <0DM> and thats it
14:33:47  <theholyduck> Lukeus_Maximus, somebody allready did
14:33:47  <PublicServer> <0DM> any questions?
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14:34:02  <PublicServer> <0DM> oh and sign your work ofcourse
14:34:13  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Build maglev
14:34:15  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Not monorail
14:34:16  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> odm have you marked your drops? :P
14:34:20  <Lukeus_Maximus> Why are we using MONORAIL?
14:34:22  <PublicServer> <0DM> yes theyre in the sign list
14:34:28  <pugi> oh, building already <.<
14:34:31  <PublicServer> <baeda> MAGLEV.
14:34:32  <PublicServer> <0DM> its easier to see during building maybe
14:34:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> baeda: smartass
14:34:56  <PublicServer> <0DM> i will start with the sweet factory
14:35:04  <pugi> !tweet Building phase has begun in PSG #181
14:35:06  <PublicServer> pugi: Tweet sent: http://twitter.com/openttdcoop
14:35:09  <PublicServer> <baeda> yea sure. he asked. again!
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14:35:32  <pugi> !password
14:35:32  <PublicServer> pugi: cigars
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14:35:48  <PublicServer> <0DM> i smell an old station design
14:35:49  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> how much terraforming is allowed?
14:35:50  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> free?
14:36:03  <Absurd-Mind> why monorail?
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14:36:12  <PublicServer> <0DM> uh not free
14:36:15  <PublicServer> <0DM> its only CL3 trains
14:36:30  <PublicServer> <pugi> tl3 or cl3? :P
14:36:33  <PublicServer> <0DM> yes
14:36:43  <PublicServer> <0DM> unless thats an exclusive or
14:37:26  <pugi> dunno ^^
14:37:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> ready to use
14:37:58  <PublicServer> <0DM> medium terra
14:38:12  <PublicServer> <0DM> nice^^
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14:42:06  <PublicServer> <0DM> you can start running trains immediately btw
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14:42:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> why do you terraform so much
14:42:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> whoever it is
14:42:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> at the cola wells
14:43:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> OMG
14:43:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> WHO
14:44:01  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> ...
14:44:08  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> why is there trees everywhere?
14:44:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> that is very far from bold building
14:44:22  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> like, covering every square cm?
14:44:33  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> or does it just look that way?
14:44:37  <PublicServer> <0DM> really mate, you need to start better than that
14:44:48  <PublicServer> * theholyduck is just playing around for now
14:44:58  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> relearning station building :P
14:45:29  <PublicServer> <0DM> lukeus, medium terraform is not change the mountain;)
14:45:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> I will bomb it, ok?
14:45:35  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> sure
14:45:48  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> if its mine you're talking abotu :p
14:45:56  <PublicServer> <0DM> dont think it was
14:45:58  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i'll go play around somewhere non critical :P
14:46:09  <PublicServer> <0DM> ah come on duck, you can do it
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14:47:07  <PublicServer> <0DM> hm been a while since i tried this:D
14:47:34  <PublicServer> <baeda> V?
14:47:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> hm?
14:48:10  <PublicServer> <baeda> your fizzy drop going to be 2way entry/exit or enter E leave W?
14:48:29  <V453000> as I can see for now it is entered from S, exitted N
14:48:30  <PublicServer> <sonic> you know, that you can turn visibility of trees off?
14:48:35  <V453000> can be added more parts
14:49:01  <PublicServer> <baeda> uhm S/N i meant.
14:49:04  <PublicServer> <baeda> kay
14:50:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> not sure if this is proper chaos :D
14:51:08  <PublicServer> <0DM> what you think we should start more basic?
14:51:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
14:51:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> that we built the cola wells station right onto "ml" :)
14:51:46  <PublicServer> <0DM> yeah thats not the way to go
14:51:47  <PublicServer> <0DM> bad!
14:52:00  <PublicServer> <0DM> you only build line if youre going somewhere!
14:52:18  <PublicServer> <0DM> thats it, im going basic!:p
14:52:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> ?
14:52:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> lol
14:53:53  <PublicServer> <0DM> thats better
14:53:57  <PublicServer> <0DM> i present the sweets drop:p
14:54:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
14:54:06  <PublicServer> <sonic> lol
14:54:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> first cola delivered!
14:54:20  <PublicServer> <0DM> nice
14:54:34  <PublicServer> <0DM> but really guys, no ML! and dont make unnecesary connections
14:54:45  <PublicServer> <0DM> it needs to look great, not straight!
14:54:48  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> anyone feel like commenting on towndrop so far?
14:55:08  <PublicServer> <0DM> i like your creativity.
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14:55:35  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i figure 9 platforms ought to be enough for now, or?
14:56:18  <PublicServer> <0DM> right, now we need some sweets
14:56:25  <PublicServer> <0DM> i see a candyfloss forest!
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14:56:48  <PublicServer> <0DM> also, try to keep the two tracks together
14:57:20  <Lukeus_Maximus> why is cola and bubbles drop entrance signal half way down th ML?
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15:00:22  <PublicServer> <0DM> first candyfloss trains running
15:00:43  <PublicServer> <0DM> should give you an idea of what we are looking for:)
15:01:14  <PublicServer> <0DM> you dont need to rename pickups btw:)
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15:03:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> I guess we cold at least group trains
15:03:26  <PublicServer> <0DM> we definately should
15:03:38  <PublicServer> <0DM> by cargo
15:05:20  <PublicServer> <0DM> we miss one more drop, for toy shop
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15:05:58  <Webster> Welcome back, Peter!
15:06:14  <Barbaar> !password
15:06:14  <PublicServer> Barbaar: rudest
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15:06:42  <PublicServer> <0DM> dont all focus on one industry btw:)
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15:09:37  <PublicServer> <0DM> anyone need any help?
15:09:48  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> was thinking the same :)
15:09:59  <Phazorx> well if you both are not occupied
15:10:00  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i need some help hooking my stuff up to something else
15:10:08  <PublicServer> <0DM> whats your stuff?
15:10:11  <Phazorx> i need my dishes washed and office vacumed
15:10:12  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> town drop
15:10:17  <PublicServer> <baeda> uhm you want toys => toy drop and any other (sweets lemonade) => town
15:10:18  <PublicServer> <0DM> aah
15:10:21  <PublicServer> <0DM> you want some of my sweets?
15:10:24  <PublicServer> <0DM> which also sounds wrong
15:10:30  <PublicServer> <0DM> yes baeda
15:10:32  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i guess :P
15:10:39  <PublicServer> <0DM> toys go to a toy shop, in a town
15:10:42  <PublicServer> <baeda> k nice
15:10:55  <PublicServer> <0DM> ill build a line then duck
15:12:43  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> for now , the only entrance/exits to towndrop is the north side
15:12:46  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> atleast i think this is north
15:12:53  <PublicServer> <0DM> ill be coming from the south then
15:12:56  <Vitus> !password
15:12:56  <PublicServer> Vitus: rudest
15:13:18  <PublicServer> <0DM> V can i suggest making the first thing you build a terminus?
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15:13:28  <PublicServer> <0DM> makes it a bit more neat
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15:13:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> no matter :)
15:14:09  <PublicServer> <0DM> please sign your work everyone:)
15:14:17  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> allready have
15:14:31  <PublicServer> <0DM> just saying
15:14:45  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> shall i make the toy shop station?
15:14:50  <PublicServer> <0DM> go for it!
15:14:56  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> roger
15:16:00  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> hmm, i might as well start making the line from you odm myself
15:16:13  <PublicServer> <0DM> yes
15:16:24  <PublicServer> <0DM> if you go from the drop, and i from sweets, we meet somewhere
15:16:27  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0000C106: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000C106.png
15:16:54  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> if you branch at the "branch here sign"
15:16:58  <PublicServer> <0DM> yes
15:17:00  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> and go westish
15:17:07  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> you''ll hit me easily enough
15:17:10  <PublicServer> <0DM> thats the plan:)
15:18:22  <Lukeus_Maximus> ther are two stations at dadingbury heights / woods
15:18:27  <Lukeus_Maximus> is this a mistake?
15:18:39  <PublicServer> <0DM> heh yeah, forgot to join them:)
15:18:40  <PublicServer> <0DM> thanks
15:18:48  <Lukeus_Maximus> you're welcome
15:19:28  <PublicServer> <Absurd-Mind> why not PBS at SWEETS PICKUP?
15:19:37  <PublicServer> <0DM> i like this more:)
15:19:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> there is no reason for pbs
15:19:57  <PublicServer> <Absurd-Mind> so no technical reason, just for cuteness?
15:20:08  <PublicServer> <0DM> well technically its faster
15:20:17  <PublicServer> <0DM> PBS still has some delays i think
15:20:40  <mrruben5> !password
15:20:40  <PublicServer> mrruben5: utters
15:20:45  <PublicServer> <0DM> but i still prefer block signals:)
15:20:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> indeed
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15:20:56  <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> ah you've started
15:20:57  <PublicServer> <baeda> so Barbaar i'm going to connect to you or too early?
15:21:04  <PublicServer> <0DM> the toy factory needs some primaries to get it going guys
15:21:16  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> yeah think so baeda
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15:22:08  <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> guess I get what I wanted all along: toyland + chaos
15:22:13  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> odm, i'm doing the south east side of that island
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15:22:17  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> so you need to cross it somewhere
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15:22:21  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> "island"
15:22:31  <PublicServer> <0DM> im confused:p
15:22:36  <avdg> state?
15:22:40  <avdg> !players
15:22:42  <PublicServer> avdg: Client 45 (Orange) is Lukeus_Maximus, in company 1 (planetmaker's World)
15:22:42  <PublicServer> avdg: Client 68 (Orange) is sonic, in company 1 (planetmaker's World)
15:22:42  <PublicServer> avdg: Client 76 (Orange) is MrRuben5, in company 1 (planetmaker's World)
15:22:42  <PublicServer> avdg: Client 56 (Orange) is theholyduck, in company 1 (planetmaker's World)
15:22:42  <PublicServer> avdg: Client 58 (Orange) is baeda, in company 1 (planetmaker's World)
15:22:42  <PublicServer> avdg: Client 48 (Orange) is V453000, in company 1 (planetmaker's World)
15:22:42  <PublicServer> avdg: Client 72 (Orange) is Barbaar, in company 1 (planetmaker's World)
15:22:44  <PublicServer> avdg: Client 50 is phatmatt, a spectator
15:22:44  <PublicServer> avdg: Client 70 (Orange) is pugi, in company 1 (planetmaker's World)
15:22:46  <PublicServer> avdg: Client 54 (Orange) is 0DM, in company 1 (planetmaker's World)
15:22:46  <PublicServer> avdg: Client 64 is Absurd-Mind, a spectator
15:22:48  <PublicServer> <0DM> pensyllvania
15:22:54  <avdg> !password
15:22:54  <PublicServer> avdg: utters
15:22:58  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> see the MEEET HERE sign?
15:23:02  <PublicServer> <0DM> yes?
15:23:08  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> we'll cross the island there
15:23:08  <PublicServer> <0DM> sure:p
15:23:18  <Intexon> hello
15:23:22  <PublicServer> *** avdg joined the game
15:23:23  <PublicServer> <0DM> hello
15:23:27  <PublicServer> <avdg> wich plan won?
15:23:31  <PublicServer> <avdg> :D
15:23:36  <PublicServer> <0DM> see the map.
15:23:52  <PublicServer> <avdg> again, everybody followed me
15:23:56  <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> chaos!
15:24:01  <PublicServer> <0DM> youre a trendsetter
15:24:04  <PublicServer> <avdg> :p
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15:24:20  <PublicServer> <0DM> theres tons to do avdg:)!
15:24:23  <PublicServer> <Intexon> oh noes
15:24:31  <PublicServer> <avdg> no, you're plan was the perfect mix between tneo and V453000's one
15:24:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> wan
15:24:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> what does it have to do with tneo
15:24:56  <PublicServer> <avdg> simplicity of the plan
15:25:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh lol
15:25:08  <PublicServer> <0DM> true, his was simple
15:25:20  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> now all i need to do is signal my station
15:25:21  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> and wee
15:25:37  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> looking at it, i could actually just use a couple of pbs signals
15:25:39  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> to make it work
15:25:46  <PublicServer> <0DM> im not stopping you
15:25:47  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> should i lazy out?
15:25:53  <PublicServer> <0DM> your station mate
15:26:02  <PublicServer> * theholyduck makes a PBS due to lazy sign
15:26:02  <PublicServer> <avdg> brb
15:26:22  <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> there's two cotton candy thingies near the toy shop, can I use the lines from the toy shop to connect them to somewhere?
15:26:48  <PublicServer> <0DM> yes
15:26:49  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> sure
15:26:54  <PublicServer> <0DM> everything will connect up later on
15:26:56  <gr00vy> !password
15:26:56  <PublicServer> gr00vy: utters
15:27:11  <PublicServer> <0DM> so if you connect a primary industry, make sure it can reach its destination and come back
15:27:16  <Intexon> guys, have some grf to make toyland temperate? :P
15:27:23  <PublicServer> <0DM> thats opengfx
15:27:28  <PublicServer> <0DM> with trees off
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15:28:29  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> there, station should be signaled in a working way
15:28:34  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> hopefully
15:28:51  <PublicServer> <Absurd-Mind> why reverse PBS at station entry?
15:28:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> added
15:28:55  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> penalty
15:29:02  <PublicServer> <Absurd-Mind> ah!
15:29:07  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> make trains not pick those tracks unless others are full
15:29:07  <PublicServer> <0DM> make them take the outer ones
15:29:20  <PublicServer> <0DM> duck, can i suggest a signal in the middle lane?
15:29:44  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i guess that would work
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15:30:06  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> it would free up the long pbs route a bit earlier
15:30:07  <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> barbaar, where is your toy station track going to connect to?
15:30:28  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i just figured at this speed, the added what,, 2 half tile delay wasnt worth it :P
15:30:37  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> i was thinking at about !B:here
15:31:05  <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> hmm
15:31:08  <PublicServer> <Intexon> thanks ODM
15:31:10  <PublicServer> <0DM> people! dont forget to group your trains in the train overview!
15:31:12  <PublicServer> <Intexon> that's better
15:31:17  <PublicServer> <0DM> np
15:31:19  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> bit of a detour for that candy floss i guess
15:31:30  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 000098BB: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000098BB.png
15:31:36  <PublicServer> <0DM> detours are fine.
15:31:37  <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> but I could also make a direct line to the  sweets fact
15:31:38  <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> yeah
15:31:53  <PublicServer> <0DM> but ruben, if you want a line to the sweet factory, build it
15:31:57  <PublicServer> <0DM> thats the idea:)
15:32:06  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> chaos \o/
15:32:10  <PublicServer> <0DM> semi
15:32:13  <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> woohoo :P
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15:32:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> semi is just the marketing mark
15:32:52  <PublicServer> <avdg> back
15:32:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> but it is total chaos
15:32:58  <PublicServer> <avdg> :)
15:33:07  <PublicServer> <0DM> dont say that
15:33:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
15:33:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> but its true
15:33:18  <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> brb
15:33:25  <PublicServer> <avdg> I like chaos anyway, so long its structured
15:33:37  <PublicServer> * Spike remembers something with NO CHAOS
15:33:40  <PublicServer> <avdg> I saw chaos games (monorail) wich had too much tracks
15:33:41  <PublicServer> <Spike> but that could be me
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15:34:11  <PublicServer> <0DM> woops
15:34:32  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i see sweets train!
15:34:39  <PublicServer> <0DM> woot
15:34:52  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> odm, our line is long :p
15:35:00  <PublicServer> <0DM> yes:P
15:35:33  <PublicServer> <avdg> what do you think about a connection from !A to !B?
15:35:47  <PublicServer> <0DM> oh thats where B was for
15:35:48  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i made 2 more sweets train
15:35:49  <PublicServer> <0DM> i deleted it:p
15:35:52  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> *trains
15:36:29  <PublicServer> <0DM> feel free to build it:)
15:36:36  <PublicServer> <0DM> if theres a reason for it
15:36:43  <PublicServer> <avdg> its for later
15:36:55  <PublicServer> <0DM> then no^^
15:37:02  <PublicServer> <baeda> ODM? a rather small toy's pickup will be sufficient for starters?
15:37:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> fizzy drinks for sale!
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15:37:18  <PublicServer> <0DM> yeah will be fine
15:37:44  <PublicServer> <0DM> lukeus, please have seperate stations for seperate industries
15:37:46  <PublicServer> <0DM> at suthwaite
15:38:09  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> hmm, i think its time for me and go pretend to be useful
15:38:21  <PublicServer> <0DM> only pretend?^^
15:38:21  <PublicServer> <baeda> :)
15:39:04  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> like hook the fizzy drink system up to our sweets system
15:39:14  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> so that we can start sending more trains to meeee
15:39:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> I am connecting near Chohall
15:39:54  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> hmm, me sees no signs of it :P
15:40:33  <PublicServer> <0DM> was anyone working on the candyfloss at toy drop?
15:40:33  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> but now i do :P
15:41:22  <nighthawkcm> quick one, what is more effective, a classic junction SLH or a SML followed by a SLH to the outermost lane.
15:41:51  <PublicServer> <0DM> if build right i think the junction
15:41:52  <Phazorx> depends
15:42:13  <Phazorx> nighthawkcm: in order for sml to work you need rest of network to be sml
15:42:18  <Phazorx> it works only as a whole
15:42:22  <nighthawkcm> ah ok
15:42:55  <^Spike^> what Phazorx said
15:42:55  <Phazorx> you can not mix regular balanced slhs and sml exit-shifter-merger
15:43:10  <^Spike^> cause you'l end up with all traffic on 1 line
15:45:31  <PublicServer> <pugi> whoops
15:45:33  <PublicServer> <0DM> lol
15:45:41  <PublicServer> <pugi> <.<
15:45:47  <PublicServer> <0DM> people! group your trains!
15:45:51  <PublicServer> <avdg> crash?
15:45:55  <Razaekel> !info
15:45:55  <PublicServer> Razaekel: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'planetmaker's World'  Year Founded: 1950  Money: 37209061  Loan: 0  Value: 44285353  (T:49, R:0, P:12, S:0) unprotected
15:45:59  <PublicServer> <avdg> where?
15:46:00  <Razaekel> new game?
15:46:06  <PublicServer> <avdg> yeah
15:46:09  <PublicServer> <avdg> buzy
15:46:09  <PublicServer> <pugi> i won't say <.<
15:46:10  <PublicServer> <0DM> lukeus, please group your trains
15:46:32  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00013754: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00013754.png
15:46:32  <PublicServer> <avdg> :)
15:46:40  <PublicServer> <avdg> its chaos :)
15:46:40  <Razaekel> !password
15:46:41  <PublicServer> Razaekel: bender
15:46:43  <PublicServer> <avdg> rebuild
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15:46:58  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> oh god, toyland
15:47:07  <PublicServer> <avdg> thats a good thing, right?
15:47:11  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> hell no
15:47:17  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> use sunglasses
15:47:31  <PublicServer> <avdg> :)
15:47:47  <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> back
15:47:54  <PublicServer> <avdg> wb
15:48:10  <PublicServer> <0DM> lukeus, are you reading this?
15:48:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> awsom
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15:49:26  <PublicServer> <pugi> crashed trains are back :D
15:49:42  <PublicServer> <avdg> nice
15:50:48  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> err..
15:50:55  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> who the hell used 257km/h bridges??
15:51:04  <Lukeus_Maximus> look at train 25
15:51:05  <PublicServer> <0DM> lol where?
15:51:15  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i think lukeus did
15:51:15  <Lukeus_Maximus> its going through the wrong place!
15:51:36  <PublicServer> <0DM> then theres something wrong with the route
15:51:49  <PublicServer> <avdg> hmmm
15:51:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes there is
15:51:55  <PublicServer> <avdg> I hate these drops
15:52:09  <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> where's the depot to add trains?
15:52:22  <PublicServer> <avdg> they should have a some track before the station, to keep the junction free
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15:52:52  <^Spike^> V453000/ODM is that that cola/bubbles drop thingie or pickup?
15:53:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> ?
15:53:12  <^Spike^> if yes... then you missed a choice @ exit there.. which forces it to go trhough station
15:53:19  <^Spike^> the wrong route thingie
15:53:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> I know
15:53:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> I already fixed
15:53:37  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> er...
15:53:38  <PublicServer> <0DM> i have no idea what youre talking about
15:53:39  <^Spike^> oki :)
15:53:40  <PublicServer> *** Spike joined the game
15:53:46  <^Spike^> V453000 does ;')
15:54:40  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i think we fixed most of the issues around lukeus's place
15:54:51  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> hmm,
15:54:57  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> oh yeah, still brdige problem
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15:56:13  <PublicServer> <0DM> dont forget your trains ruben:)
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15:58:11  <PublicServer> <0DM> first sugar underway
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15:59:53  <PublicServer> <avdg> ?
15:59:57  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> heh, did the toy factory disappear baeda?
16:00:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> wtf are you doing
16:00:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh
16:00:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> sry :D
16:00:11  <PublicServer> <0DM> uh?
16:00:14  <PublicServer> <0DM> bad V!
16:00:17  <PublicServer> <baeda> was too close to the little pickups there
16:00:18  <PublicServer> <avdg> :p
16:00:27  <PublicServer> <avdg> thats better then my idea :)
16:00:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
16:00:43  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> :o traffic to my station
16:00:49  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> who would have though
16:00:54  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> *thought
16:00:55  <PublicServer> <0DM> <-
16:01:04  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> also, i noticed how we're 20 million down from when we started
16:01:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> <- not
16:01:08  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> we're good at bklowing off money
16:01:19  <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> the juncteon between toy shop and sweets factory might need a better juncteon there
16:01:19  <Lukeus_Maximus> should a sweet factory at the sweets drop be created?
16:01:34  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00010563: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00010563.png
16:01:36  <PublicServer> <0DM> its there
16:01:48  <PublicServer> <avdg> nice roundabout btw :)
16:01:54  <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> afk eating
16:01:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> potential mess :P
16:02:02  <Lukeus_Maximus> oh yes
16:02:04  <PublicServer> <0DM> "potential"?
16:02:05  <PublicServer> <avdg> :)
16:02:06  <Lukeus_Maximus> I see it now
16:02:52  <PublicServer> <0DM> bb, foods
16:02:54  <PublicServer> <0DM> be good!:p
16:03:20  <PublicServer> *** 0DM has left the game (connection lost)
16:03:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> hes gone! lets screw up
16:04:33  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> hmm, theres some bad signaling at beer pickup
16:04:40  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> whoever did that
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16:04:45  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> v?
16:04:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> no there isnt
16:05:05  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> well, they're sort of loading up the wrong tracks
16:05:19  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> not that it really matters or anything
16:05:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> there used to be penalties
16:05:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> but it is ok
16:05:30  <SmatZ> beer pickup? that game sounds interesting for me :)
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16:05:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
16:05:43  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> well yeah, it wont cause a jam
16:05:46  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> it just looks wrong
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16:08:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> is toy factory able to accept crap?
16:08:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> nooo
16:09:09  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> baeda apparently insist on doing pickup before drop
16:09:47  <PublicServer> <baeda> hey i'm not insisting on anything oO
16:09:56  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> well just looking at how it is atm
16:10:10  <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving)
16:10:20  <V453000> !password
16:10:20  <PublicServer> V453000: wryest
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16:16:36  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00010B4D: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00010B4D.png
16:16:50  <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost)
16:18:08  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> barbar you there?
16:21:53  <PublicServer> *** sonic has left the game (leaving)
16:21:55  <PublicServer> <baeda> plastics and batteries accepted now.
16:22:08  <PublicServer> <baeda> and btw just tell me if i'm doing something crappy...
16:23:03  <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> are roro's preferred for primary's?
16:23:06  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> train 81 went through sweets pickup
16:23:15  <PublicServer> <pugi> i know... i forgot entry
16:23:16  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> its a cola train
16:23:18  <PublicServer> <pugi> fixed it
16:23:26  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> ah cool =)
16:23:40  <PublicServer> <pugi> i followed it... and it passed the entry :D
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16:24:40  <KyleS> !password
16:24:40  <PublicServer> KyleS: thorny
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16:25:16  <PublicServer> <KyleS> hello
16:28:18  <Phazorx> hi
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16:28:43  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> yo
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16:31:04  <PublicServer> <KyleS> sorry about that, i meant to do the open grf settings for toyland...otherwise the eyes hurt :/
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16:31:38  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0002744E: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002744E.png
16:32:41  <PublicServer> * theholyduck goes away for a while
16:32:50  <PublicServer> *** Player joined the game
16:32:50  <Webster> Player, please change your in game nick
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16:34:26  <PublicServer> <pugi> how lame, flattening a whole area before building a station...
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16:35:37  <Ammler> SmatZ: we need possibilty to change zoom level via console ;-)
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16:36:21  <Ammler> zoomed out screens are quite ugly
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16:37:05  <Phazorx> Ammler: still better than zoomed in for toyland
16:37:06  <PublicServer> <KyleS> sorry, going to rejoin again, somehow i got set to spectator -_-
16:37:15  <ODM> ugh, 90 euros for a stupid book:P
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16:37:26  <Phazorx> KyleS: you can switch to company
16:37:55  <KyleS> Phazorx: I tried...just going to rejoin instead :D
16:38:10  <KyleS> !password
16:38:10  <PublicServer> KyleS: fasten
16:38:13  <Ammler> Phazorx: we know, you do not like toyland :-)
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16:38:26  <Phazorx> Ammler: do you know someone who does?
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16:38:31  <ODM> really? i dont think its been mentioned
16:38:35  <KyleS> i'm so excited to be able to play the game!  PS game 180 lagged my computer so bad
16:38:41  <Ammler> Phazorx: everyone else, you are the only one :-P
16:39:08  <PublicServer> <0DM> what did i miss?
16:39:22  <Phazorx> could everyone whole likes toyland as much as ammler says they do raise their hands please?
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16:39:34  <PublicServer> <0DM> *raises hand*
16:39:41  <Ammler> Phazorx: well, that isn't fair
16:39:47  <Ammler> I like it quite much.
16:39:49  <PublicServer> * MrRuben5 raises hand
16:39:50  <PublicServer> <KyleS> i don't mind it...looks a lot better with the OpenGFX set
16:39:57  <PublicServer> <avdg> *doesn't care*
16:40:04  <Ammler> :-D
16:40:34  <nighthawk_c_m> !password
16:40:35  <PublicServer> nighthawk_c_m: fasten
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16:42:14  <PublicServer> <nighthawk_c_m> whre do you need me guys?
16:42:21  <PublicServer> <0DM> everywhere^^
16:42:27  <PublicServer> <0DM> we need to connect up some more primaries
16:42:44  <Radicalimero> !password
16:42:45  <PublicServer> Radicalimero: fasten
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16:42:53  <PublicServer> <KyleS> should i just look in the industries for ones with 0% transported?
16:43:02  <Ammler> now, everyone rises the hand who doesn't like toyland like Phazorx
16:43:03  <PublicServer> <0DM> yeah thats a nice way to do it:)
16:43:08  * Ammler holds ban button
16:43:15  <PublicServer> <KyleS> D:
16:43:24  <PublicServer> <0DM> dont forget to make sure the trains can travel both ways
16:43:46  <PublicServer> <nighthawk_c_m> which primaries are needed at the moment?
16:43:47  <PublicServer> <KyleS> ok
16:44:03  <PublicServer> <0DM> the train list might give you an indication of the number of trains per cargo
16:44:19  <PublicServer> <0DM> so toffee and plastic are neededmost
16:44:29  <PublicServer> <KyleS> o
16:44:32  <PublicServer> <baeda> *coughs* batteries *coughs*
16:44:37  <PublicServer> <KyleS> i'll work on the Gresness quarries
16:44:45  <PublicServer> <0DM> oh and batteries
16:45:00  <PublicServer> <0DM> which should be spelled b2res
16:45:04  <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm
16:45:06  <nighthawk_c_m> ok, I'll take up the plastic - where does it have to be delivered?
16:45:17  <PublicServer> <0DM> toy factory
16:45:32  <PublicServer> <KyleS> haha i'm not very familiar with what industries go where in toyland
16:45:46  <PublicServer> <avdg> im maybe doing to much worry, but shouldn't the town drop actually be the other way?
16:46:00  <PublicServer> <0DM> how so?
16:46:07  <PublicServer> <avdg> drop then return
16:46:14  <PublicServer> <0DM> yes, you worry too much:p
16:46:15  <PublicServer> <avdg> instead of turn and drop
16:46:23  <PublicServer> <baeda> first toys arrive at toy shop :)
16:46:31  <PublicServer> <0DM> its better yes... but much better...no
16:46:36  <nighthawk_c_m> how much terraforming is allowed?
16:46:40  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00037902: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00037902.png
16:46:40  <PublicServer> <avdg> its just cleaner
16:46:41  <PublicServer> <0DM> medium
16:47:12  <PublicServer> <avdg> check toy pickup, that line is a killer
16:47:35  <PublicServer> <0DM> hehe
16:47:44  <PublicServer> <0DM> well, feel free to improve things
16:47:46  <PublicServer> <0DM> that's the idea
16:47:47  <PublicServer> <avdg> that line should be a ml
16:48:27  <nighthawk_c_m> whats cl ?
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16:48:30  <PublicServer> <0DM> 3
16:48:33  <nighthawk_c_m> i mean how many tiles?
16:48:37  <nighthawk_c_m> kk
16:49:34  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> and back from dinner
16:49:42  <PublicServer> <0DM> wb
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16:50:43  <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> gah
16:50:51  <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> everywhere to everywhere :P
16:51:17  <PublicServer> <0DM> nice
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16:51:28  <dashing> !pw
16:51:29  <PublicServer> <0DM> ruben, you forgot to group two trains;)
16:51:48  <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> oi :P
16:52:05  <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> better?
16:52:10  <PublicServer> <0DM> yes thanks
16:52:52  <dashing> !password
16:52:53  <PublicServer> dashing: reload
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16:53:08  <PublicServer> <avdg> hey
16:53:20  <PublicServer> <dashing> hi
16:53:21  <PublicServer> <0DM> hi?
16:53:51  <PublicServer> <avdg> shortcut finished
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16:53:53  <KyleS1> !password
16:53:54  <PublicServer> KyleS1: reload
16:54:14  <KyleS1> internet dc'd :(
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16:55:47  <PublicServer> <0DM> be gentle on prios by the way:) dont really need them here i think
16:55:52  <nighthawk_c_m> could people talk less in signs?
16:56:10  <PublicServer> <0DM> signs are the PM of the game^^
16:56:47  <PublicServer> <avdg> :)
16:57:39  <theholyduck> there, i'm back
16:57:45  <PublicServer> <0DM> wb
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16:57:51  <DJNekkid> is it still the 2500+ train game running?
16:57:51  <nighthawk_c_m> yeah, but people write signals while I work
16:57:54  <theholyduck> family techsuport ;(
16:57:55  <DJNekkid> or are there a new one?
16:57:59  <nighthawk_c_m> that is kinda annoying
16:58:04  <theholyduck> !password
16:58:04  <PublicServer> theholyduck: reload
16:58:28  <KyleS1> !oasswird
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16:58:55  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> hmm, is it just me
16:59:00  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> or has the network hardly changed while i was away?
16:59:03  <PublicServer> <baeda> avdg: now trains are shortcutting through the toy factory drop :P
16:59:19  <PublicServer> <0DM> go change it then ducky
16:59:23  <DJNekkid> !download win64
16:59:23  <PublicServer> DJNekkid: http://nl.binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19594/openttd-trunk-r19594-windows-win64.zip
16:59:24  <PublicServer> <0DM> we're working on it:p
17:00:08  <nighthawk_c_m> And seriously I have no idea what people want from me
17:00:26  <PublicServer> <KyleS> nor do i, i'm just working on two industries tho :)
17:00:37  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> :o seems like my town drop is being popular
17:00:41  <PublicServer> <0DM> i think avdg wants you to evaluate the line
17:00:42  <nighthawk_c_m> I have no clue who wrote those signs so ..
17:00:59  <PublicServer> <0DM> basically, the line shouldnt be there in the first place
17:01:07  <PublicServer> <avdg> yep
17:01:12  <nighthawk_c_m> What line?
17:01:23  <PublicServer> <0DM> the one you were changing the connection of
17:01:28  <nighthawk_c_m> I need thet to get my plastic trains moved in a circle
17:01:42  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 000209A7: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000209A7.png
17:01:46  <PublicServer> <avdg> simply connect to the closest ml
17:01:56  <PublicServer> <avdg> i upgraded a line to ml
17:02:01  <nighthawk_c_m> well Hellride is not a goodf place to connect
17:02:23  <PublicServer> <0DM> also, ml is a big word! theres no ml yet:P
17:02:33  <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> ffs
17:02:36  <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> damn presignals
17:03:36  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> who built some merge here without labeling it?
17:03:46  <PublicServer> <0DM> here?
17:03:46  <PublicServer> <avdg> that new ml?
17:03:53  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> naw, somewhere without bridge doubling
17:03:58  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> fixing it now
17:04:01  <PublicServer> <avdg> happy now?
17:04:08  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> yes :p
17:04:12  <PublicServer> <0DM> guys, not everything without a double bridge is bad...
17:04:27  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> well this one sees quite a bit of trafix though
17:04:31  <DJNekkid> !password
17:04:32  <PublicServer> DJNekkid: sunken
17:04:38  <PublicServer> <avdg> odm: clean :)
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17:04:47  <PublicServer> <0DM> clean?
17:05:05  <PublicServer> <avdg> to follo the rules
17:05:14  <PublicServer> <0DM> the rules are not to double every bridge
17:05:26  <pugi> and tunnels!
17:05:51  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> well, i think its needed here :P
17:06:05  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> atleast for 1 of the bridges here
17:06:07  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> did need it
17:06:26  <PublicServer> <0DM> then feel free to change it;) but dont do it everywhere because somewhere possibly 100 years from now its needed
17:06:41  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> well, i just did it cause i noticed 2 trains snagging at the place
17:06:44  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> and no label on it
17:07:02  <PublicServer> <0DM> then theres a reason to fix^^
17:07:52  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i also fixed a merge into a 3 way junction
17:07:55  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> for sanity reasons
17:08:06  <PublicServer> <0DM> sanity is overrated
17:08:11  <PublicServer> <KyleS> lol
17:08:17  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> well, the toyshop one
17:08:31  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i didnt feel like sending my sugar train all the way around
17:08:42  <PublicServer> <KyleS> do i sign the stations i made?
17:08:48  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> yeah
17:08:49  <PublicServer> <0DM> go for it kyle
17:08:56  <PublicServer> <KyleS> ok
17:09:04  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> sign anything you made that might do anything in the future
17:09:08  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> as i understand
17:09:19  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> woops
17:09:20  <PublicServer> <KyleS> ok
17:09:20  <PublicServer> <0DM> lol
17:09:21  <PublicServer> <0DM> thats 2
17:09:24  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> station, junctions, etc
17:10:30  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> hmm, so my line extension turned into a mainline while i wasnt looking?
17:10:40  <PublicServer> <KyleS> sorry barbaar, going to move that depot a little
17:10:50  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> chaos is nice and cool
17:10:52  <PublicServer> <pugi> are there 10 platforms on 2 seperate stations for the cola pickup at Breeway East / Suthwaite Woods?
17:10:57  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> no problem kyle
17:11:03  <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> lol, crash at geawich woods
17:11:27  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> give sign?
17:11:54  <PublicServer> <0DM> one is cola, one is bubbles
17:12:03  <PublicServer> <0DM> but the bubbles died:p
17:12:08  <PublicServer> <pugi> ah
17:12:11  <PublicServer> <pugi> now i get it :D
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17:13:16  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> hmm, so far, this chaos thing is actually pretty neat
17:13:42  <PublicServer> <baeda> uhm who dropped the !hellride sign for me?
17:13:43  <PublicServer> <avdg> it needs to be tidied
17:13:51  <PublicServer> <avdg> me
17:13:51  <PublicServer> <0DM> what he said
17:13:57  <PublicServer> <avdg> its too long
17:14:07  <PublicServer> <0DM> the toy area and fizzy area need a tidy
17:14:08  <PublicServer> <dashing> the fort avonville mines station doesnt seem to be working
17:14:25  <PublicServer> <pugi> that overkill cola pickup station can be reduced to 3 platforms i guess
17:14:27  <PublicServer> <baeda> yea i know it was built way before the other lines there actually so feel free to bomb away
17:14:36  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> yeah, looking into that dash
17:14:42  <PublicServer> <0DM> missing track
17:14:48  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> oh lol, thanks
17:14:57  <PublicServer> <dashing> it only allows 1 train so its a signal issue i think
17:15:02  <PublicServer> <dashing> seems fixed now
17:15:05  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> stupid maglev
17:15:09  <PublicServer> <0DM> nah there was missing track^^
17:15:50  <PublicServer> <0DM> hellride can be removed now i think
17:16:12  <PublicServer> <avdg> 3
17:16:13  <PublicServer> <KyleS> done with Gresness industries =)
17:16:13  <PublicServer> <avdg> 2
17:16:15  <PublicServer> <avdg> 1
17:16:40  <PublicServer> <dashing> why is mainline bridging over sideline track ? shouldnt it be other way around ?
17:16:44  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0001D360: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001D360.png
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17:17:20  <PublicServer> <0DM> we need more toffee, batteries and plastic still
17:17:34  <KyleS1> !password
17:17:34  <PublicServer> KyleS1: pigged
17:17:46  <PublicServer> <baeda> fist coop game and already infamous :) this is awesome ;)
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17:17:55  <nighthawk_c_m> I am working on the plastic, where can I add trains?
17:18:01  <nighthawk_c_m> I mean where is a depot?
17:18:21  <PublicServer> <0DM> you make one:)
17:18:27  <PublicServer> <0DM> just make sure its entry only
17:18:45  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> *exit only?
17:18:45  <nighthawk_c_m> what?
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17:18:56  <PublicServer> <0DM> well entry onto the line/exit from the depot
17:19:01  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> hmm, who is fixing lukeus's broken cola station?
17:19:08  <KyleS1> i keep dropping -.-
17:19:11  <PublicServer> <0DM> depends which one?
17:19:17  <PublicServer> <0DM> oh not that one
17:19:18  <PublicServer> <pugi> i was trying abit
17:19:20  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> the one in the middle of the new main line
17:19:33  <PublicServer> <pugi> still thinking :P
17:19:41  <PublicServer> <0DM> am i the only one finding it new how lines form?
17:19:58  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> well, this is very much like my original building style
17:20:04  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> just with a million people doing it
17:20:12  <PublicServer> <baeda> hehe
17:20:17  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> back in the olden days, all my games looked like this
17:20:44  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> slooow connect is slow
17:20:46  <PublicServer> <avdg> is this game so big?
17:20:49  <theholyduck> no
17:20:51  <theholyduck> 500kb
17:20:52  <PublicServer> <0DM> someone is failing
17:21:04  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> and hard
17:21:09  <nighthawk_c_m> whoever connected Brudnoer Tal totally blew my plan :-/
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17:21:16  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> this is like,
17:21:19  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> slower than modem
17:21:26  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> atleast 56k
17:21:35  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> ah well, back to studying i guess :(
17:21:46  <PublicServer> <avdg> I get only max 26kbps from a 56k connection
17:22:02  <PublicServer> <pugi> that was probably your mom wanting to get you to study :D
17:22:11  <PublicServer> <avdg> and with some connections, I don't get even 1kbps
17:22:21  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> weee
17:22:24  <PublicServer> <avdg> :)
17:22:35  <PublicServer> <0DM> sorry kyle, but it paused the game
17:22:37  <nighthawk_c_m> avdg - I made a connection to your ML crossing thingy - my connection is of intermediate to low quality, maybe check it later if it could be done better
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17:22:58  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> so i noticed something
17:23:08  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> this is starting to look a bit like v's plan
17:23:14  <PublicServer> <pugi> ...
17:23:14  <PublicServer> <0DM> hehe
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17:23:16  <PublicServer> <avdg> ...
17:23:25  <PublicServer> <0DM> well only a little
17:23:40  <PublicServer> <0DM> as in we follow the islands aswell
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17:23:56  <PublicServer> <KyleS> i really like this map
17:24:11  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> the map is pretty well suited to this style of gameplay
17:24:13  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> and a low TL
17:24:17  <PublicServer> <0DM> yup
17:24:53  <PublicServer> <avdg> cleaned a bit of ml
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17:25:29  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i see a potential issue in toydrop
17:25:36  <PublicServer> <0DM> hm?
17:25:37  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> the bypass at the end
17:25:49  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> if the lines overload, wouldnt you rather have trains wait?
17:25:55  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> than spew out into the system, trying to get back?
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17:26:14  <PublicServer> <0DM> i miss what youre talking about
17:26:22  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> the line going out the back of it
17:26:30  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> hmm
17:26:31  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> wait
17:26:31  <PublicServer> <0DM> is also a platform
17:26:33  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> theres a station there
17:26:35  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> silly brain
17:26:35  <PublicServer> <0DM> gj mate:)
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17:26:58  <PublicServer> <avdg> ...
17:27:05  <PublicServer> <avdg> too many players connecting
17:27:06  <nighthawk_c_m> brb need a smoke
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17:27:20  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> ello
17:27:24  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> hey
17:27:26  <PublicServer> <KyleS> hi
17:27:28  <PublicServer> <0DM> oioi
17:27:49  <PublicServer> <pugi> finally the station is back to normal :P
17:27:51  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> seems like my simple/lazy pbs station is working
17:27:53  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> TL&CL=3?
17:27:56  <PublicServer> <0DM> yes
17:28:01  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> and working well
17:28:05  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> theholyduck: pbs stations are ugly
17:28:11  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> especially if they're main station
17:28:19  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> take a look at town drop
17:28:28  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> is it really that bad?
17:28:55  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> well,t here it isnt that bad
17:29:08  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> in some ways its better than a presignal station of that design
17:29:09  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i just prefer that people wouldnt use pbs at station xd
17:29:14  <PublicServer> <0DM> hehe
17:29:24  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> atleast i think this one with pbs has higher throughput
17:29:30  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> sure if i designed it diffrently
17:29:35  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> it would be diffrent
17:29:56  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> why isn't there a line from !from here !via here !to here?
17:30:17  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it doesnt matter that much with that design imo
17:30:19  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> if you want it, build it?
17:30:25  <PublicServer> <avdg> check !a to !b
17:30:42  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> train will block each other in exactly the same way
17:31:30  <PublicServer> <0DM> and thats 3:p
17:31:46  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 000144AD: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000144AD.png
17:31:53  <PublicServer> <avdg> its possible :p
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17:31:55  <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> hmm, the two cotton candy thingies in the south, 1 or 2 stations?
17:32:03  <PublicServer> <0DM> id say 1
17:32:20  <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> but more then 2 bays then
17:32:34  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it's a chaos game and good practice dies right away :s
17:32:37  <PublicServer> <avdg> that 4way cross should be splitted up
17:32:54  <KyleS> !PASSWORD
17:32:57  <KyleS> oops caps
17:33:00  <KyleS> !password
17:33:00  <PublicServer> KyleS: dodged
17:33:07  <KyleS> srry
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17:33:15  <PublicServer> <0DM> i love how everyone goes... i can improve this! and then gets to work
17:34:18  <PublicServer> <0DM> killing the mm by the way, its only a fraction compared to the train income
17:34:29  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> mm?
17:34:31  <PublicServer> <0DM> moneymaker
17:34:34  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> ah yeah
17:34:50  <PublicServer> <pugi> well, it is 1/7th :P
17:35:03  <PublicServer> <0DM> meh
17:35:07  <PublicServer> <0DM> just connect more trains:p
17:35:20  <PublicServer> <pugi> ^
17:35:20  <PublicServer> <0DM> and 1/7th is still a fraction.
17:35:20  <PublicServer> <pugi> ^^
17:35:23  <PublicServer> <KyleS> so is 1/1th
17:35:25  <PublicServer> <KyleS> :o
17:35:27  <PublicServer> <0DM> true.
17:35:56  <PublicServer> <0DM> hm can someone explain what happened at whithaven common woods?^^
17:36:00  <PublicServer> <0DM> i am confused
17:36:25  <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> should I delete it again?
17:36:38  <PublicServer> <0DM> im trying to see the reasoning:P
17:36:46  <PublicServer> <0DM> mind if i work on it a little?
17:36:54  <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> not at all, go ahead
17:36:59  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> what are you talking about?
17:37:20  <PublicServer> <0DM> read up:P
17:37:32  <PublicServer> <pugi> xery, you wanted to make the tunnels out of sync :O
17:38:07  <PublicServer> <avdg> who was that complainer about that new ml?
17:38:11  <PublicServer> <avdg> come here and help :p
17:38:14  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> also, start naming hubs already please
17:38:33  <PublicServer> <pugi> what, we have a ml? :D
17:38:40  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> no, but it is easier :P
17:38:48  <PublicServer> <0DM> good answer;)
17:38:56  <PublicServer> <0DM> feel free to start a naming scheme
17:39:03  <PublicServer> <0DM> like HUB01 ;)
17:39:06  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i just started with hub1
17:39:13  <PublicServer> <0DM> what you said.
17:39:16  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> HUB 01 that is :P
17:39:17  <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> PMH?
17:39:20  <PublicServer> <avdg> don't forget the spacing in front :)
17:39:22  <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> planetmakerhub?
17:39:33  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> just hub will be fine
17:39:33  <PublicServer> <avdg> call it pmhub :p
17:40:15  <PublicServer> <pugi> CHUB, like chaos hub
17:40:16  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm, i dont even mind toyland that much
17:40:21  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> until i see a piece of coast xD
17:40:22  <PublicServer> <0DM> we have a converted.
17:40:33  <PublicServer> <0DM> oh true thats not nice
17:40:42  <PublicServer> <pugi> well, i'm off to dinner :D
17:40:44  <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> I hate the trees
17:40:50  <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> luckily there is X!
17:40:52  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> you can turn trees of :P
17:40:53  <PublicServer> <0DM> lets start a kill all trees project:p
17:40:58  <PublicServer> <baeda> group trains please
17:41:12  <PublicServer> <0DM> what he said
17:41:32  <PublicServer> <0DM> i claim hub 02
17:41:38  <PublicServer> <KyleS> yeah the trees look ugly...not so bad with OpenGFX and trees invis though =)
17:41:43  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> can i claim hub 1337?
17:41:49  <PublicServer> <0DM> no:p
17:41:54  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> hub42?
17:41:55  <PublicServer> <avdg> hehe, keep some names for me :)
17:42:09  <PublicServer> <0DM> i can live with 42:p
17:42:09  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> if you do construction work on a hub just claim it as your own from now on
17:42:14  <nighthawk_c_m> Holyduck .. please .. I tried to connect my 3rd plastic thingy .. how the hell
17:42:15  <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> ok, gonna name my junction HUB 666 then
17:42:17  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> unless you dont want to be associated with it :P
17:42:24  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> ;( who is augmenting my awesome build?
17:43:15  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> time for some dinner
17:43:32  <PublicServer> <0DM> cya
17:43:37  <PublicServer> <baeda> yep me too.
17:43:46  <PublicServer> <baeda> later guys
17:43:51  <PublicServer> <KyleS> later
17:44:27  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> whats with all the ungrouped trains?
17:44:35  <PublicServer> <0DM> some people are being bad
17:44:39  <PublicServer> <KyleS> four of them are my bad :(
17:44:41  <PublicServer> <KyleS> i'll group them tho
17:44:50  <PublicServer> <0DM> good
17:45:04  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> nighthawk, is it you who did the thing at WRY?
17:45:05  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> :P
17:45:06  <PublicServer> <0DM> lukeus, group your trains
17:45:25  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> back
17:45:26  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> with dinner :D
17:45:32  <PublicServer> <0DM> lol
17:45:34  <PublicServer> <0DM> whatcha having?
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17:45:35  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> hax
17:45:39  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> the house is full of my sister's friends so there is no space for me at the dinner table
17:45:41  <nighthawk_c_m> yes, because its hard to inject into your line without rebuilding parts ...
17:45:50  <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> mwhaha I love this game already
17:45:56  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> rice, some vegetables, and cow meat :D
17:46:30  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> MrRuben5: just wait till we have more traffic :P
17:46:41  <PublicServer> <0DM> itll be mad i promise
17:46:44  <XeryusTC> !rcon patch raw_industry_construction
17:46:44  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Current value for 'raw_industry_construction' is: '2' (min: 0, max: 2)
17:46:49  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0003C748: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0003C748.png
17:47:09  <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> do we need plastic for anything?
17:47:15  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> toys
17:47:20  <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> ah ofc
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17:47:29  <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> lots of bubbles here as well
17:47:34  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> my god, i know some of the industry chain by heart xD
17:47:54  <PublicServer> <baeda> grouped ungrouped trains. off for dinner now ;) brb
17:47:55  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, loads of toffee here
17:49:34  <snc> !password
17:49:35  <PublicServer> snc: spunks
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17:50:04  <KyleS> zzz
17:50:16  <KyleS> <- fail connection
17:50:19  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm
17:50:23  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> primaries with SRO
17:50:34  <KyleS> i'm going to go get lunch then i'll try again :p
17:50:41  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> the first person who says i cant is going to recieve a ban :P
17:50:41  <PublicServer> <0DM> you sure its not that someone forgot the order?
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17:54:06  <PublicServer> <0DM> oh thats annoying, toffee quarry almost doesnt show up while see-through
17:54:38  <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> what's wrong with CL at avonberg bay woods?
17:54:55  <PublicServer> <avdg> ok, whole east line is builded
17:55:03  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> place a sign? i dont like using town finder
17:55:05  <PublicServer> <0DM> nice
17:55:12  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> ah, there
17:55:15  <PublicServer> <avdg> i know its hacky
17:55:21  <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> duck, southern most station
17:55:47  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> it didnt NEED to be hacky though
17:55:55  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> theres space there to make the turns right
17:55:57  <PublicServer> <avdg> clean it up then :)
17:55:58  <PublicServer> <0DM> tada
17:56:03  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> yeah
17:56:06  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> odm just did what i ment
17:56:12  <PublicServer> <avdg> I can't clean up and build in once
17:56:14  <PublicServer> <0DM> i have mindbending powers
17:56:22  <PublicServer> <avdg> I have to separate those 2
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17:56:51  <KyleS> !password
17:56:51  <PublicServer> KyleS: spunks
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17:57:10  <PublicServer> <0DM> ya the bubbles aswell
17:57:22  <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> ah that way
17:57:25  <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> alright
17:57:32  <PublicServer> <0DM> ruben, i changed your hub a bit:p
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17:57:50  <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> oh that looks a lot nicer indeed
17:57:58  <PublicServer> <0DM> you should always try to kepe stations out of the junction itself
17:58:01  <KyleS> :/
17:58:46  <PublicServer> <0DM> i see ungrouped trains!
17:58:49  <nighthawk_c_m> if trains have a shared plan, how can I take a train off the shared group?
17:58:57  <PublicServer> <avdg> cool, we have almost a 9 cell grid
17:59:05  <PublicServer> <0DM> click the shared order and press delete
17:59:08  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> see near Tadale City
17:59:44  <PublicServer> <0DM> lol
17:59:45  <PublicServer> <0DM> seriously
17:59:50  <PublicServer> * avdg checks map
17:59:56  <PublicServer> <avdg> nah
18:00:05  <PublicServer> <avdg> it looks more like circles
18:00:13  <PublicServer> <0DM> circles are good
18:00:18  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> circles ftw :P
18:00:25  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> connecting clients ftl
18:00:27  <PublicServer> <avdg> we misses a south west connection
18:00:28  <PublicServer> *** KyleS joined the game
18:00:37  <PublicServer> <0DM> working on it:p
18:00:37  <PublicServer> <KyleS> :(
18:00:43  <PublicServer> <avdg> badale -> ayonberg
18:01:10  <PublicServer> <avdg> then we have a clean network, altrough these lines aren't used that much :p
18:01:51  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0000DFE9: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000DFE9.png
18:02:34  <PublicServer> <avdg> dinningdon green is a mess on the map :p
18:02:43  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> :o i just added like 5 more sweets trains
18:02:47  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> and even that didnt really help
18:02:58  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> we're producing alot of it :P
18:03:07  <Absurd-Mind> !password
18:03:07  <PublicServer> Absurd-Mind: deport
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18:03:17  <PublicServer> <avdg> theholyduck: be carefull, adding few too much will result in jams
18:03:35  <PublicServer> <avdg> and many loading trains
18:03:37  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> sure,
18:03:40  <V453000> !password
18:03:40  <PublicServer> V453000: deport
18:03:45  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> but we'rep roducing way to much sweets at the moment
18:03:48  <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game
18:03:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> hy
18:03:53  <PublicServer> <avdg> hey
18:03:56  <PublicServer> <avdg> check map
18:03:57  <PublicServer> <KyleS> hi
18:04:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> filling up :)
18:04:19  <PublicServer> <0DM> does the station need an overhaul?
18:04:23  <PublicServer> <avdg> check ml's :)
18:04:56  <PublicServer> <pugi> so now we have mainlines?
18:04:58  <PublicServer> <avdg> its actually close to your plan :)
18:05:08  <PublicServer> <avdg> pugi: check map
18:05:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> sure it is
18:05:11  <PublicServer> <avdg> you see them
18:05:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> because it copies terrain
18:05:23  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> who forgot to group trains again?
18:05:24  <PublicServer> <pugi> wtf o0
18:05:31  <PublicServer> <pugi> look at !wtf :D
18:05:32  <PublicServer> <KyleS> i'm having trouble figuring out to connect this industry..
18:05:34  <PublicServer> <pugi> who did this?
18:05:42  <PublicServer> <0DM> lol?
18:05:56  <PublicServer> <avdg> lol?
18:06:03  <PublicServer> <avdg> thats madness
18:06:11  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i lolled
18:06:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> I just brought it to at least working state
18:06:19  <PublicServer> <pugi> finish station, then add trains next time :P
18:06:30  <PublicServer> <avdg> :D hihihihiiiii :)
18:06:30  <nighthawk_c_m> why - no stress
18:06:46  <nighthawk_c_m> stop messing withj stuff while someone still works
18:07:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> when there were trains ...
18:07:06  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> created hub 4 :)
18:07:23  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> so, we're over 200 trains now
18:07:28  <PublicServer> <pugi> well, at least the station is compact ;)
18:07:35  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> though, like 20 of them are silly ones
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18:08:02  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> avdg, want me to fix your hacky desynched junction?
18:08:19  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> well, fix the desync at any rate
18:08:26  <PublicServer> <0DM> i love these little compact junctions btw
18:08:33  <nighthawk_c_m> pugi: yea, no need for smooth flow, production is so low
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18:09:08  <Vitus> !password
18:09:08  <PublicServer> Vitus: deport
18:09:08  <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> hmm
18:09:17  <PublicServer> *** dashing has left the game (leaving)
18:09:24  <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> trying to join a line which already has a join
18:09:25  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> we might need some more toy trains
18:09:26  <PublicServer> <KyleS> hey could someone look at /KyleS / in progress?
18:09:29  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> maybe
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18:09:32  <PublicServer> <KyleS> i'm having trouble deciding where to put a bridge
18:09:36  <PublicServer> <KyleS> :/
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18:09:44  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> want some help?
18:09:49  <PublicServer> <KyleS> yes pls =)
18:10:03  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> well, i'd do it this way
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18:10:49  <PublicServer> <KyleS> oh ya
18:10:57  <snc> in psg 180 how did you make the maglev tracks look like rail tracks?
18:11:01  <PublicServer> <KyleS> i wasn't thinking about using tunnels ... but that works very well
18:11:14  <PublicServer> <0DM> tunnels > bridges
18:11:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> snc: narrow gauge rail set, parameters 4 1
18:11:15  <PublicServer> <Intexon> snc: narrow gauge grf
18:11:25  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> you can finish it from there
18:11:27  <snc> thanks!
18:11:31  <PublicServer> <KyleS> ok, thanks for the help
18:11:32  <PublicServer> <KyleS> =D
18:11:43  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> actually
18:11:45  <Lukeus_Maximus> Beer Pickup isn't doing very well
18:11:47  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> there should be a prio there
18:11:49  <PublicServer> *** KyleS has left the game (connection lost)
18:11:55  <PublicServer> <0DM> who made teningville east?
18:11:58  <KyleS> that's what i was thinking too
18:12:01  * SmatZ is a beer pickup
18:12:02  <Lukeus_Maximus> the signals choose platforms with trains in when there are free platforms
18:12:03  <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> hmm, how do I do 2 + 2 + 2 > 2?
18:12:07  <SmatZ> nom nom nom
18:12:08  <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> at !here :)
18:12:16  <KyleS> perhaps you could move the outgoing line to the shorelin?
18:12:20  <KyleS> shoreline*
18:12:26  <KyleS> !password
18:12:26  <PublicServer> KyleS: deport
18:12:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> Lukeus: really?
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18:13:32  <PublicServer> <KyleS> thanks again :D
18:14:04  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> well, you could have done that with a tiiny bit of TF and a bridge aswell
18:14:09  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> tunel was just easier
18:14:13  <Lukeus_Maximus> well, it worked
18:14:17  <PublicServer> <KyleS> for sure
18:14:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> first ask when you resignal
18:14:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> or say how
18:15:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> but dont fuck up others stuff
18:15:35  <PublicServer> <avdg> new ml south west is opened
18:15:54  <PublicServer> <0DM> and probably not that useful
18:15:56  <PublicServer> <0DM> but ok^^
18:16:11  <PublicServer> <avdg> its just for a proper network :p
18:16:28  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, no newgrfs loaded at all :(
18:16:39  <PublicServer> <avdg> good for me :)
18:16:46  <PublicServer> <0DM> still some ungrouped trains
18:16:47  <PublicServer> <avdg> zlib is broken here
18:16:49  <Ammler> XeryusTC: toyland is like a big newgrf :-)
18:16:53  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 000042B7: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000042B7.png
18:17:08  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> avdg: what has zlib to do with newgrfs?
18:17:16  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> they aren't compressed at all afaik
18:17:30  <PublicServer> <avdg> well if you grab them from bananas
18:18:06  <PublicServer> <DJ Nekkid> hey kyle...
18:18:07  <PublicServer> <0DM> i am quite impressed sofar.
18:18:18  <PublicServer> <avdg> about what?
18:18:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> progress
18:18:26  <PublicServer> <DJ Nekkid> why not just connect it to the sideline thats already there
18:18:28  <PublicServer> <0DM> the game
18:19:18  <PublicServer> <0DM> i am starting the ml north.,
18:19:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> the bubble carriages look just awesome with OFGFX
18:19:23  <PublicServer> <0DM> northwest*
18:19:24  <PublicServer> <avdg> im helping
18:19:29  <PublicServer> <0DM> aah nice you alreayd started
18:19:47  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> seems like somebody finally fixed how my station  was hooked straight to the "mainline"
18:19:59  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> ofcourse, back when i hooked it up
18:20:01  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> it was the end of the line
18:20:09  <PublicServer> <0DM> hehe
18:20:24  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm, i should probably make some logic which sends all trains to a depot if there is a train loading at every station
18:20:32  <PublicServer> <KyleS> theholyduck, feel free to sign that junction, it was all you =)
18:20:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> XeryusTC: that should be fairly easy
18:21:06  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> provided i can find it
18:21:10  <PublicServer> <KyleS> lol
18:21:14  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> ah, there
18:21:18  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> V453000: i know
18:21:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> where
18:21:27  <PublicServer> <KyleS> yeah i can only find stuff by using the signs
18:21:32  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> Tadale City:
18:21:33  <PublicServer> <KyleS> 512x512 is too big otherwise
18:21:39  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> ah, somebody allready changed it
18:22:01  <Ammler> is there a toyland newgrf, btw.?
18:22:16  <Ammler> )except mars)
18:22:19  <PublicServer> <KyleS> Ammler: there is the OpenGFX version of toyland
18:22:29  <PublicServer> <KyleS> not rly a newgrf tho
18:22:32  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> we need more sweet trains
18:22:33  <PublicServer> <DJ Nekkid> someone started to make some brick-world...
18:22:34  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> seriously
18:22:36  <PublicServer> <DJ Nekkid> wolf-something
18:22:44  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> look at sweets pickup
18:22:52  <Ammler> KyleS: opengfx isn't a newgrf :-)
18:22:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> DJNekkid: that thread is dead for 2 years already
18:23:00  <PublicServer> <DJ Nekkid> KyleS: i modded the entry to St. Pitport Woods
18:23:22  <PublicServer> * theholyduck added more sweets trains
18:23:35  <PublicServer> <KyleS> thanks DJ :D
18:23:39  <PublicServer> <0DM> can someone tell me when i need to expand the station?
18:23:40  <PublicServer> <KyleS> looks great
18:23:47  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> well theres no problem with platforms
18:23:49  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> not really
18:23:51  <PublicServer> <0DM> aight
18:23:57  <PublicServer> <0DM> im surprised how long its lasting
18:24:10  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> the problem is more how much sweets we produces vs how many trains carrying it away
18:24:12  <PublicServer> <0DM> the pickup is now a design i really like btw:D
18:24:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> food time
18:24:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> cya
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18:25:12  <PublicServer> <0DM> heh, theres suddenly a station there avdg:p
18:25:24  <KenjiE20> why's the server zoomed out?
18:25:42  <PublicServer> <avdg> who placed it? :)
18:25:48  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> odm, you have a station that doesnt always have trains waiting at it :P
18:25:50  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Cuncombe Forest? I can move it if you wish
18:25:55  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> 2 infact
18:25:58  <PublicServer> <avdg> odm: keep at the coast
18:26:00  <PublicServer> <0DM> add trains!
18:26:07  <PublicServer> <0DM> k
18:26:08  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> well, the trains are gone
18:26:12  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i need to wait for some to come back
18:26:22  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i just noticed 2 with stuff piling up
18:26:26  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> and no trains picking them uop
18:26:44  <PublicServer> * theholyduck adds more train to both when i can
18:27:30  <Ammler> KenjiE20: did someone reload?
18:27:36  <Ammler> cheat something?
18:27:39  <PublicServer> <0DM> yes<--
18:27:45  <PublicServer> <0DM> so i probably forgot;)
18:28:00  <Ammler> well, we need a console command to set zoom level :-)
18:28:16  <PublicServer> <DJ Nekkid> where do battery go?
18:28:22  <PublicServer> <0DM> toy factory
18:28:37  <PublicServer> <DJ Nekkid> where is the toy factory? :P
18:28:43  <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> chaos!! everybody is adding everything everywhere!!
18:29:01  <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> nekkid: sign list :)
18:29:31  <PublicServer> <DJ Nekkid> or stationlist :)
18:29:48  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> the network is working suprisingly well
18:29:51  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> so far
18:30:21  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> theres is a fair bit of unsigned stations though
18:30:37  <PublicServer> <0DM> right, im gonna tackle the round thing
18:31:35  <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm running trains on the new line :p
18:31:45  <PublicServer> <0DM> nice
18:31:55  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0001FFF9: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001FFF9.png
18:32:04  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> can we say that so far, this is chaos; gone well?
18:32:23  <PublicServer> <avdg> well, we have enough people who keeps the structure in
18:32:26  <PublicServer> <avdg> thats good
18:32:31  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh crap, depots are combo signals too :(
18:32:38  <PublicServer> <0DM> they are xeryus
18:32:40  <PublicServer> <0DM> you should know:p
18:32:44  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i know
18:32:53  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i only realised it after i build this monstrocity :P
18:32:55  <PublicServer> <0DM> lol
18:33:05  <PublicServer> <0DM> should we rename that to xeryus playground?
18:33:17  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> where?
18:33:19  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Right..
18:34:14  <PublicServer> <KyleS> that is very confusing
18:34:16  <PublicServer> <avdg> :)
18:34:22  <PublicServer> <0DM> then succes.
18:34:26  <PublicServer> <KyleS> lol
18:34:29  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> where?
18:34:36  <PublicServer> <KyleS> sign says "SRO primary pickup"
18:34:45  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> added a ! in front
18:34:53  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> oh gawd
18:34:54  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm
18:35:00  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> looks like 2 balls and a stick!
18:35:01  <PublicServer> <KyleS> mostly confusing because i don't understand logic gates / logic trains
18:35:02  <PublicServer> <avdg> our ml is good
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18:35:08  <Qanael> Hey everyone
18:35:14  <PublicServer> <avdg> nice network
18:35:23  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> very much hmm :s
18:35:24  <PublicServer> <avdg> now cleaning stuff
18:36:10  <PublicServer> <avdg> well V453000
18:36:14  <Lukeus_Maximus> somebody needs to fix beer pickup
18:36:14  <PublicServer> <avdg> what do you think
18:36:26  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> its not actually broken
18:36:27  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> lukeus
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18:36:35  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> sure its not terribly efficient
18:36:40  <Qanael> !dl win64
18:36:40  <PublicServer> Qanael: http://nl.binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19594/openttd-trunk-r19594-windows-win64.zip
18:36:41  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> but theres always trains loading
18:36:43  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> that should do it
18:36:52  <PublicServer> <sonic> what prio length do you use?
18:36:55  <Kommer> hi
18:37:01  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> yo
18:37:03  <PublicServer> <avdg> hey kommer
18:37:05  <Kommer> !password
18:37:05  <PublicServer> Kommer: raping
18:37:06  <PublicServer> <pugi> well... rightmost station is never used
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18:37:18  <Kommer> hows life here?
18:37:23  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> sure, but it doesnt NEED to be
18:37:23  <Lukeus_Maximus> well, trains are directed to platforms that are in use instead of platforms that are free
18:37:29  <Lukeus_Maximus> just watch it and see
18:37:41  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> yes, but not more trains extra
18:37:44  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> than it can handle
18:38:01  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i spotted that issue a while back
18:38:05  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> but in reality, its a non issue
18:38:14  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> trains are always loading,
18:38:15  <Lukeus_Maximus> I'm ok with that then
18:38:28  <PublicServer> <KyleS> nooo a city's local authority is appaled
18:38:30  <PublicServer> <KyleS> =/
18:38:34  <PublicServer> <0DM> it hates you
18:38:38  <PublicServer> <KyleS> D:
18:38:40  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> build it some treees
18:38:48  <PublicServer> <0DM> V, mind if i change the fizzy drink factory area?
18:38:48  <PublicServer> <KyleS> ok
18:38:49  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> now this should all be working
18:38:57  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but it has a slow not gate :(
18:40:09  <PublicServer> <KyleS> up to very poor =)
18:40:17  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> you're doing it wrong then
18:40:24  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> you can get good by the tree trick
18:40:25  <PublicServer> <KyleS> :(
18:40:27  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> delete enough treees
18:40:29  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> then build a ton
18:40:34  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> well rather
18:40:34  <PublicServer> <baeda> semi-back ;)
18:40:36  <PublicServer> <KyleS> oh all right
18:40:39  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> build 1 drag over the empty area
18:41:07  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> who built this massivly overengineerd bit on the south western corner?
18:41:14  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> with like no trains on it?
18:41:17  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, transported rate is very good :D
18:42:11  <PublicServer> <KyleS> -_-
18:42:12  <PublicServer> <KyleS> ya i fail
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18:43:16  <nighthawk_c_m> hmmm... do I do it right or wrong, I'm working in the east on a couple of industries
18:43:16  <PublicServer> <avdg> can anyone who had build something take the time to add there name at the !! BUILDINGS BOARD !!
18:43:18  <PublicServer> <avdg> thanks
18:43:42  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> avdg: if you couldn't put it on top next time
18:43:44  <PublicServer> <avdg> :p
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18:43:49  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> kyle
18:43:50  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> now do it
18:43:59  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> someone only needs to look at it once and never look at it for the rest of the name
18:44:00  <PublicServer> <KyleS> ok, thank you
18:44:06  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> so no reason to push the network plan and hubs down
18:44:37  <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> where was the toy factory again?
18:44:46  <PublicServer> <0DM> check the station list ruben
18:44:52  <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> ofc
18:44:56  <PublicServer> <0DM> should be on top somewhere
18:45:33  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> kyle
18:45:39  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> you might want to make the hookup further down
18:45:46  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> or with a huge prio
18:45:54  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> and use a terminus station
18:45:59  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> theres not really room for a roro
18:46:09  <PublicServer> <KyleS> hmm
18:46:21  <PublicServer> <KyleS> i was thinking of
18:46:24  <PublicServer> <KyleS> something like this
18:46:32  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i got a better idea
18:46:33  <PublicServer> <KyleS> with a prio for the outgoing trains
18:46:34  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> where are you building?
18:46:37  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> a bit of stationwalking
18:46:52  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> take a look at !SPACE
18:46:57  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0002E50C: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002E50C.png
18:46:57  <PublicServer> <KyleS> the local authority is appaled again
18:47:01  <PublicServer> <KyleS> D:
18:47:06  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> somebody did some tf in the ocean
18:47:13  <PublicServer> <avdg> :) north-west route gets a lot of new stations
18:47:14  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh wow
18:47:19  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> build the station north of the town
18:47:22  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and go around it :P
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18:47:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> back
18:47:33  <PublicServer> <sonic> XeryusTC:  why do you have transfer orders in your  sro network?
18:47:36  <PublicServer> <avdg> wb V453000
18:47:37  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> figured
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18:48:15  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> yeah, wouldnt the sro work better with no unload orders?
18:48:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
18:48:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
18:49:08  <PublicServer> <avdg> what yes V453000?
18:49:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> sro with transfer is pointless
18:49:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> and it stack trains in waves
18:49:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> well maybe not
18:50:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> it has cons and pros
18:50:19  <PublicServer> <sonic> what are the pros?
18:50:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> if there are 2 loading trains, one transfers to another
18:50:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> so one gets fuller
18:50:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> and can have 100% sooner
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18:51:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> but the time is very high
18:51:28  <KyleS> !password
18:51:29  <PublicServer> KyleS: shrine
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18:52:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> whats wrong there ODM?
18:52:25  <PublicServer> <0DM> im just playing around a bit
18:52:34  <PublicServer> <0DM> i want to properize the roundabout^^
18:52:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> okay :)
18:54:21  <PublicServer> <0DM> trying to fit something creative into that area^^
18:54:43  <PublicServer> <0DM> uh no, i was talking to V:p
18:54:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> beer area
18:54:56  <PublicServer> <avdg> mmm
18:55:20  <PublicServer> <0DM> hope you dont mind me messing around a bit
18:55:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
18:55:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> go on :)
18:55:27  <XeryusTC> hmm
18:55:28  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> whos not grouping their trains again?
18:55:32  <XeryusTC> you might be right about the no unload order
18:55:34  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> Vitus!
18:55:41  <XeryusTC> you probably are
18:55:53  <XeryusTC> it is faster
18:56:00  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Sorry, I forgot to put them in group
18:56:01  <PublicServer> <Vitus> My bad
18:56:04  <PublicServer> <KyleS> thx again theholyduck, it looks nice =)
18:56:21  <PublicServer> <DJ Nekkid> anyone feels like adding some trains to some stations?
18:56:29  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> it needs to be done yeah
18:56:33  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i've been doing it here and there
18:56:36  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> when i spot issues
18:56:48  <PublicServer> <Kommer> too many vehicles
18:56:57  <XeryusTC> !rcon patch max_trains
18:56:57  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Current value for 'max_trains' is: '300' (min: 0, max: 5000)
18:56:58  <PublicServer> <0DM> kommer?
18:56:58  <PublicServer> <KyleS> Vitus mind if I add a route to the candy factory by the Gresness plastics you built?
18:56:59  <PublicServer> <0DM> what the hell
18:57:01  <XeryusTC> !trains 750
18:57:01  <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has set max_trains to 750
18:57:05  <PublicServer> <Kommer> yes?
18:57:07  <PublicServer> <Kommer> what?
18:57:12  <PublicServer> <0DM> we havent seen you in like...
18:57:13  <PublicServer> <0DM> well
18:57:16  <PublicServer> <Kommer> i know
18:57:17  <PublicServer> <Vitus> It's OK
18:57:20  <PublicServer> <Kommer> yesterday I joined again
18:57:22  <PublicServer> <KyleS> ok thx
18:57:25  <PublicServer> <0DM> you alright?:)
18:57:27  <PublicServer> <Kommer> started playing again since 1.0.0
18:57:32  <XeryusTC> hey Kommer :)
18:57:34  <PublicServer> <Kommer> saw it on some forum and though, what the heck :)
18:57:37  <PublicServer> <Kommer> yepp :)
18:57:38  <PublicServer> <0DM> hehe
18:57:40  <PublicServer> <Kommer> hey Xeryus :)
18:57:41  <PublicServer> <0DM> welcome back then
18:57:56  <PublicServer> <Kommer> have been working a lot, got married, got a new house, had to renovate it completely etc :)
18:57:59  <PublicServer> <Kommer> so busy time
18:58:02  <PublicServer> <Kommer> thanks :)
18:58:10  <PublicServer> <0DM> yeah you disappeared after getting married:P
18:58:13  <PublicServer> <Kommer> game still feels addictive ;)
18:58:15  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> hmm
18:58:17  <PublicServer> <Kommer> but not much time to play :)
18:58:21  <PublicServer> <Kommer> yepp i know :(
18:58:27  <PublicServer> <Kommer> busy time
18:58:35  <KenjiE20> holy hell its a Kommer
18:58:39  <PublicServer> <Kommer> yep
18:58:41  <PublicServer> <0DM> what he said
18:59:00  <PublicServer> <Kommer> still feel bad that I didnt join in more, but it just was too busy.
18:59:12  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> so, we're over 300 trains now, have anyone even seen any jams?
18:59:13  <KenjiE20> you should lurk more
18:59:14  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> hmm,
18:59:16  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i found one
18:59:34  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> take a look at !jamming
18:59:34  <PublicServer> <Kommer> gf, errr. wife, is now pregnant so on evenings I have some time to play :)
18:59:35  <PublicServer> <0DM> fix it!
18:59:42  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i'm not sure how
18:59:43  <KenjiE20> lol
18:59:47  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> its sometimes too much trains going in
18:59:53  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> and it all crawls to a halt
18:59:58  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i think it might needs a extra line
19:00:16  <PublicServer> <Kommer> jam at !JAM
19:00:19  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> sometimes it works fine, and other times, it all crawls to a halt
19:00:26  <PublicServer> <Kommer> maybe make a second line until the 'HUB' ?
19:00:27  <PublicServer> <avdg> join before split
19:00:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> ye
19:01:32  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i think that transfer works better in this case
19:01:32  <PublicServer> <Kommer> but how's life here?
19:01:42  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> as all trains take a few laps to fill completely
19:01:43  <KenjiE20> busy
19:01:54  <KenjiE20> what with the 1.0 stuff going on
19:01:58  <XeryusTC> !rcon patch gradual_loading 0
19:01:59  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00015B2F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00015B2F.png
19:01:59  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: players
19:01:59  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: server_info
19:01:59  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: clients
19:01:59  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: echo doneclientcount
19:02:01  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: ERROR: This command/variable is not available during network games.
19:02:08  <XeryusTC> broken :s
19:02:14  <KenjiE20> timing :)
19:02:15  <XeryusTC> what O_o
19:02:24  <PublicServer> <avdg> yep x is bad
19:02:28  <XeryusTC> you can't change gradual_loading anymore in network games? :(
19:02:52  <KenjiE20> so it would seem
19:03:10  <XeryusTC> how odd
19:03:20  <XeryusTC> it never led to desyncs or anything
19:03:33  <XeryusTC> and it would lead to faster loading times on this game
19:03:50  <PublicServer> <KyleS> hmm... i wasn't thinking
19:04:08  <PublicServer> <KyleS> thought this candy factory was a primary...oops
19:04:11  <XeryusTC> does anyone feel up to changing it in SP (and load logic trains)
19:04:18  <PublicServer> <KyleS> (not the main candy factory, some random one
19:04:21  <XeryusTC> lol
19:04:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> I doubt logic trains work for toyland
19:04:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> ... am I wrong?
19:04:52  <PublicServer> <avdg> penalty
19:05:21  <PublicServer> *** sonic has left the game (leaving)
19:05:36  <PublicServer> <avdg> trains ignores bridges, because the climb
19:05:42  <KenjiE20> I do like how we almost never play toyland, and today, two of our servers are toylands :)
19:05:58  <PublicServer> <0DM> more toyland i say
19:06:01  <PublicServer> <0DM> its refreshing
19:06:21  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I'd neve played toyland before, it's funky
19:06:23  <PublicServer> <Qanael> never
19:06:24  <PublicServer> <DJ Nekkid> if trees are set to transparent... sure
19:06:26  <PublicServer> <pugi> sounds are annoying :P
19:06:32  <KenjiE20> more toyland love
19:06:36  <PublicServer> *** Intexon has left the game (leaving)
19:06:40  <PublicServer> <0DM> oh i have no sounds or trees
19:06:48  <PublicServer> *** SmatZ` joined the game
19:06:52  <PublicServer> <SmatZ`> hello
19:06:54  <PublicServer> *** SmatZ` has left the game (leaving)
19:07:03  <PublicServer> *** SmatZ` joined the game
19:07:03  <PublicServer> <avdg> hey
19:07:06  <KenjiE20> puttputtputtzoopWheeBANG
19:07:12  <PublicServer> <avdg> :p
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19:07:46  <PublicServer> <DJ Nekkid> anyone feelslike adding trains to 6 or so primarys? :P
19:07:47  <PublicServer> *** SmatZ` has changed his/her name to SmatZ
19:07:51  <PublicServer> <0DM> no:p
19:07:51  <KenjiE20> *sift*sift*sift* sugar mines :)
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19:08:12  <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost)
19:08:30  <V453000> !password
19:08:30  <PublicServer> V453000: touted
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19:08:53  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Hmm just saw a clump of 3 unconnected primaries that a single station should cover
19:09:01  <PublicServer> <0DM> same tpye?
19:09:04  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Nope
19:09:10  <PublicServer> <0DM> aw
19:09:16  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Yeah, it's a bummer
19:09:24  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I could just make a big station I guess
19:09:34  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> you have to make 3 though :P
19:09:59  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Yeah, I guess you're right
19:10:58  <PublicServer> <SmatZ> 20 clients connected to toyland game!
19:11:00  <KenjiE20> you could build one big complex and just put 3 stations side-by-side
19:11:04  <PublicServer> <0DM> this is mad
19:11:11  <PublicServer> <avdg> cmon everybody!
19:11:15  <PublicServer> <SmatZ> :)
19:11:15  <PublicServer> <avdg> join this server
19:11:31  <PublicServer> <Qanael> TL3, right?
19:11:48  <nighthawk_c_m> its pretty awesome
19:12:18  * KenjiE20 fires 1.4m wider projectiles filled with unsable fusion 70km
19:12:21  <KenjiE20> :P
19:12:57  <Qanael> Yeah I think I'll do that
19:13:36  <PublicServer> <Qanael> What's the TF policy for this map?
19:13:39  <PublicServer> <avdg> jam should be solved
19:13:40  <PublicServer> <0DM> medium
19:13:47  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> coop TF i guess
19:14:02  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> which is basicly don't molest the landscape
19:14:25  <PublicServer> <SmatZ> medium TF
19:14:28  <PublicServer> <pugi> wee need more cola+bubbles
19:14:48  <PublicServer> <pugi> beer pickup has many trains waiting
19:15:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> is ok
19:15:24  <PublicServer> <pugi> hm
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19:15:33  <PublicServer> *** SmatZ has left the game (leaving)
19:15:35  <PublicServer> <pugi> okay, it has reserves :P
19:15:39  <PublicServer> <avdg> :) toy factory is de-joinbeforeplitted
19:16:01  <PublicServer> <Kommer> indeed.
19:16:25  <PublicServer> <avdg> still, it needs optimalisations
19:16:32  <PublicServer> <Kommer> true :)
19:16:48  <PublicServer> <avdg> that traffic is crazy :p
19:16:49  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> weee, somebody is trying to fix !JAMMING
19:17:01  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0000C8E9: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000C8E9.png
19:17:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> somebody was
19:17:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> I am fixing
19:18:33  <PublicServer> <avdg> 1 more join before split :D
19:18:48  <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> jam at hub 01
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19:19:00  <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> at sweets pickup
19:19:15  <planetmaker> welcome Devedse
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19:19:25  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> hmm yeah, seems we have too many sweets trains atm
19:19:25  <PublicServer> <pugi> i like jam :)
19:19:28  <Devedse> hello :)
19:19:30  <PublicServer> *** SmatZ joined the game
19:19:35  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> ODM
19:19:43  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> time to add moar capacity
19:19:55  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> trains are waiting in queue to unload and to load
19:19:56  <PublicServer> <baeda> anyone could look at !baeda
19:20:05  <PublicServer> <baeda> and tell me if CL2 is okay there?
19:20:08  <PublicServer> <0DM> ugh
19:20:13  <PublicServer> <0DM> im already working somewhere else:(
19:20:19  <PublicServer> <0DM> be there in a min
19:20:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> is fine
19:20:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> and why not to connect it to lower traffic line
19:20:55  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> people seem to be a bit TOO obsessed with roro stations
19:21:04  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> for a primaries pickup, its not like you NEED one
19:21:05  <planetmaker> Devedse: @quickstart
19:21:08  <planetmaker> @quickstart
19:21:10  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart
19:21:21  <PublicServer> <0DM> good point
19:21:24  <planetmaker> ^^ reading for those new here :-)
19:21:25  <Devedse> let's read
19:21:27  <Devedse> :)
19:21:28  <PublicServer> <KyleS> sweets pickup starting to get small jams (only one train so far)
19:21:29  <planetmaker> @slowstart
19:21:29  <Webster> Read everything on the wiki, and I mean everything
19:21:31  <PublicServer> <baeda> no but if the CL is okay at primary pick roro was more easy for me
19:21:37  <planetmaker> for those who want to be thorough ;-)
19:21:53  * Devedse quotes: We are maintaining 222 articles!
19:22:02  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> also, joining a game late as a newcomer is hard :P
19:22:05  <PublicServer> * theholyduck knows this
19:22:11  <planetmaker> maybe, I haven't counted, Devedse :-)
19:22:12  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> everything looks like madness
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19:22:34  <Headshot119> !password
19:22:34  <PublicServer> Headshot119: cruxes
19:22:36  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Hmm I wonder if I'll have room to connect this
19:22:38  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Let's see
19:22:53  <PublicServer> <Kommer> somebody can add some trains at sign !!Theese need trains
19:22:54  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i think we need tu upgrade one of our lines
19:22:57  <Devedse> well im used to madness
19:23:05  * Devedse plays together with a friend for 300 years in the same map
19:23:06  <PublicServer> <Kommer> then the jam at the sweets pickup is gone :)
19:23:15  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> one going between sweets and  towndrop
19:23:30  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> needs to be LL_RR towards toy factory
19:23:32  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> me thinks
19:23:41  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> trains cant merge to the line anymore
19:23:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> Devedse: I have 5000 road vehicles from year 2100 so length doesnt really matter ;)
19:24:00  <Devedse> thats a trap :)
19:24:01  <PublicServer> <avdg> brb
19:24:07  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> so, anyone feel up to it?
19:24:13  <PublicServer> *** avdg has joined spectators
19:24:20  <KenjiE20> hmmm, is "AAAAA" still running?
19:24:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> ?
19:24:28  <KenjiE20> that must be at about 10000yes now
19:24:31  <KenjiE20> yrs*
19:25:11  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> take a look at !LOL TRAFFIC
19:25:24  <Devedse> brb :)
19:25:34  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> theres sometimes more than 40-50 secs between a train being allowed to merge onto the line
19:25:39  <Lukeus_Maximus> !version
19:25:39  <PublicServer> Lukeus_Maximus: Autopilot AP+ 3.0 Beta (r740:742M)
19:25:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> I will LL_RR there
19:25:59  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i think we only really need it between toy drop
19:26:02  <planetmaker> !revision
19:26:02  <PublicServer> planetmaker: Game version is r19594
19:26:05  <Lukeus_Maximus> !nostupidimeantheversionofttdthatthepublicserverisusing
19:26:05  <PublicServer> <pugi> lukeus is always using cl1 curves... so bad :/
19:26:08  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> and to the toy fac split
19:26:10  <planetmaker> ^ Lukeus_Maximus
19:26:16  <Devedse> man i hate this build in firefox irc thing, brb gonna get something else
19:26:19  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> either side of those, the traffic is lighter
19:26:30  <Lukeus_Maximus> !andthedownloadlinkforit
19:26:40  <KenjiE20> @quickstart
19:26:41  <pugi> Lukeus_Maximus, look topic
19:26:41  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart
19:26:43  <pugi> or use
19:26:45  <KenjiE20> ^ Lukeus_Maximus
19:26:45  <pugi> !dl win32
19:26:45  <PublicServer> pugi: http://nl.binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19594/openttd-trunk-r19594-windows-win32.zip
19:26:49  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i added signs indicating where its needed
19:26:50  <PublicServer> *** avdg has joined company #1
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19:27:08  <PublicServer> * theholyduck goes to make food
19:27:11  <PublicServer> *** theholyduck has joined spectators
19:28:15  <PublicServer> <0DM> are we doubling something?
19:28:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
19:28:28  <PublicServer> <0DM> which part?
19:28:31  <Headshot119> !password
19:28:31  <PublicServer> Headshot119: cruxes
19:28:38  <PublicServer> <0DM> ok:p
19:28:41  <PublicServer> *** headshot119 joined the game
19:28:44  <PublicServer> <pugi> from "LL__RR start here" to "LL__RR END HERE"
19:28:51  <PublicServer> <pugi> :P
19:29:03  <avdg> !players
19:29:05  <PublicServer> avdg: Client 45 (Orange) is Lukeus_Maximus, in company 1 (planetmaker's World)
19:29:05  <PublicServer> avdg: Client 142 (Orange) is KyleS, in company 1 (planetmaker's World)
19:29:05  <PublicServer> avdg: Client 121 (Orange) is XeryusTC, in company 1 (planetmaker's World)
19:29:05  <PublicServer> avdg: Client 76 (Orange) is MrRuben5, in company 1 (planetmaker's World)
19:29:05  <PublicServer> avdg: Client 148 (Orange) is V453000, in company 1 (planetmaker's World)
19:29:05  <PublicServer> avdg: Client 109 is theholyduck, a spectator
19:29:05  <PublicServer> avdg: Client 111 (Orange) is DJ Nekkid, in company 1 (planetmaker's World)
19:29:07  <PublicServer> avdg: Client 138 (Orange) is Kommer, in company 1 (planetmaker's World)
19:29:07  <PublicServer> avdg: Client 152 (Orange) is headshot119, in company 1 (planetmaker's World)
19:29:09  <PublicServer> avdg: Client 140 (Orange) is Qanael, in company 1 (planetmaker's World)
19:29:09  <PublicServer> avdg: Client 134 (Orange) is Vitus, in company 1 (planetmaker's World)
19:29:11  <PublicServer> avdg: Client 58 (Orange) is baeda, in company 1 (planetmaker's World)
19:29:11  <PublicServer> avdg: Client 98 (Orange) is 0DM, in company 1 (planetmaker's World)
19:29:13  <PublicServer> avdg: Client 72 (Orange) is Barbaar, in company 1 (planetmaker's World)
19:29:13  <PublicServer> avdg: Client 100 (Orange) is nighthawk_c_m, in company 1 (planetmaker's World)
19:29:15  <PublicServer> avdg: Client 70 (Orange) is pugi, in company 1 (planetmaker's World)
19:29:15  <PublicServer> avdg: Client 78 (Orange) is avdg, in company 1 (planetmaker's World)
19:29:17  <PublicServer> avdg: Client 150 (Orange) is SmatZ, in company 1 (planetmaker's World)
19:29:17  <PublicServer> <0DM> sounds like a plan
19:29:19  <V453000> this feature should be banned
19:29:20  <PeterT> /msg PublicServer !players FFS
19:29:32  <planetmaker> aaaaaahh! Each of those ***** lines highlights me!
19:29:42  <avdg> :)
19:29:42  <pugi> :D
19:29:45  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> HUB 05 getting slow too
19:29:46  <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> LOL
19:29:49  <PeterT>  the !players command should ban the person for 24 hours
19:29:59  <avdg> planetmaker, join :)
19:30:03  <PeterT> planetmaker: Change it to planetm4ker's world?
19:30:20  <planetmaker> first shower :-) I have the dirt of cutting ~3 trees on me ;-)
19:30:24  <planetmaker> PeterT: good idea
19:30:29  <PublicServer> <avdg> 18 players :o
19:30:31  <planetmaker> can you do that, if you're ingame?
19:30:39  <planetmaker> !playercount
19:30:39  <PublicServer> planetmaker: Number of players: 18
19:30:46  <PeterT> !companies
19:30:47  <PublicServer> PeterT: Company 1 (Orange): planetm4ker's World
19:30:50  <PeterT> :-D
19:30:52  <avdg> !players
19:30:53  <PublicServer> avdg: Client 45 (Orange) is Lukeus_Maximus, in company 1 (planetm4ker's World)
19:30:53  <PublicServer> avdg: Client 142 (Orange) is KyleS, in company 1 (planetm4ker's World)
19:30:53  <PublicServer> avdg: Client 121 (Orange) is XeryusTC, in company 1 (planetm4ker's World)
19:30:53  <PublicServer> avdg: Client 76 (Orange) is MrRuben5, in company 1 (planetm4ker's World)
19:30:53  <PublicServer> avdg: Client 148 (Orange) is V453000, in company 1 (planetm4ker's World)
19:30:55  <PublicServer> avdg: Client 109 is theholyduck, a spectator
19:30:55  <PublicServer> avdg: Client 111 (Orange) is DJ Nekkid, in company 1 (planetm4ker's World)
19:30:57  <PublicServer> avdg: Client 138 (Orange) is Kommer, in company 1 (planetm4ker's World)
19:30:57  <PublicServer> avdg: Client 152 (Orange) is headshot119, in company 1 (planetm4ker's World)
19:30:58  <avdg> better?
19:30:59  <PublicServer> avdg: Client 140 (Orange) is Qanael, in company 1 (planetm4ker's World)
19:30:59  <PublicServer> avdg: Client 134 (Orange) is Vitus, in company 1 (planetm4ker's World)
19:31:01  <V453000> grrr
19:31:01  <PublicServer> avdg: Client 58 (Orange) is baeda, in company 1 (planetm4ker's World)
19:31:01  <PublicServer> avdg: Client 98 (Orange) is 0DM, in company 1 (planetm4ker's World)
19:31:03  <PublicServer> avdg: Client 72 (Orange) is Barbaar, in company 1 (planetm4ker's World)
19:31:03  <PublicServer> avdg: Client 100 (Orange) is nighthawk_c_m, in company 1 (planetm4ker's World)
19:31:05  <PublicServer> avdg: Client 70 (Orange) is pugi, in company 1 (planetm4ker's World)
19:31:05  <PublicServer> avdg: Client 78 (Orange) is avdg, in company 1 (planetm4ker's World)
19:31:06  <PeterT> V453000: kick him
19:31:07  <mrruben5> lol
19:31:07  <PublicServer> avdg: Client 150 (Orange) is SmatZ, in company 1 (planetm4ker's World)
19:31:07  <planetmaker> avdg: it still hightlights everyone in the game...
19:31:10  <planetmaker> but yes :-)
19:31:11  <PeterT> ban him, rather
19:31:14  <planetmaker> na
19:31:29  <PublicServer> <avdg> it still highlights me if I say something here
19:31:32  <planetmaker> only if he'd do it now again ;-)
19:31:43  <planetmaker> avdg: then change your ingame nick to 4vdg ;-)
19:31:48  <PublicServer> <avdg> :p
19:31:52  <planetmaker> guess why my ingame nick is also planetm4ker ...
19:32:03  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0002353C: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002353C.png
19:32:03  <PublicServer> <avdg> 4\/|)G
19:32:03  <PublicServer> *** SmatZ has left the game (leaving)
19:32:04  <Phazorx> players should just /query or ddcchat the output back
19:32:17  <PublicServer> <avdg> looks nice
19:32:25  <planetmaker> also good idea. PS might answer in private to !players
19:32:38  <PublicServer> *** avdg has changed his/her name to {4\/|)G}
19:32:51  <PublicServer> <pugi> that's actually a good idea :P
19:33:07  <PublicServer> <4\/|)G> who likes my new nick :p
19:33:16  <PublicServer> <0DM> i dont
19:33:23  <PublicServer> <Kommer> lol
19:33:28  <PeterT> Change it back
19:33:33  <PublicServer> *** V453000 has changed his/her name to CompleteRetard
19:33:36  <PeterT> It looks horrid from irc
19:33:38  <PublicServer> <CompleteRetard> who likes mine
19:33:39  <PublicServer> <4\/|)G> :)
19:33:39  <PublicServer> *** MrRuben5 has changed his/her name to MrRr|_|b3n
19:33:44  <KenjiE20> @nickometer 4\/|)G
19:33:44  <Webster> KenjiE20: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "4\/|)G" is 99.8%.
19:33:46  <PublicServer> <4\/|)G> looks beatifull in my irc
19:33:48  <PublicServer> <baeda> nice one.
19:33:49  <PeterT> It's very honest
19:33:52  <PublicServer> <0DM> i havent seen this busy ingame for ages
19:33:53  <PeterT> V453000: ^
19:33:54  <PublicServer> *** DJ Nekkid has left the game (leaving)
19:33:56  <PublicServer> *** {4\/|)G} has changed his/her name to avdg
19:34:13  <PublicServer> *** CompleteRetard has changed his/her name to V453000
19:34:15  <PublicServer> *** MrRr|_|b3n has changed his/her name to MrRr|_|b3n5
19:34:26  *** Devedse has quit IRC
19:34:27  <Phazorx> @nickometer KenjiE20
19:34:27  <Webster> Phazorx: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "KenjiE20" is 27.2%.
19:34:35  *** Devedse has joined #openttdcoop
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19:34:40  <V453000`sWorstNightmare> WHO LIKES ME
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19:34:46  <Phazorx> @nickometer PublicServer
19:34:46  <Webster> Phazorx: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "PublicServer" is 0.0%.
19:34:53  <PeterT> @nickometer PeterT
19:34:53  <Webster> PeterT: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "PeterT" is 0.0%.
19:34:57  <PeterT> :D :D
19:35:06  <avdg> @nickometer |_()|_
19:35:06  <Webster> avdg: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "|_()|_" is 97.0%.
19:35:06  <PublicServer> <baeda> hahaha
19:35:11  <avdg> :(
19:35:33  <nighthawk_c_m> @ nickometer nighthawk_c_m
19:35:33  <Webster> nighthawk_c_m: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "nighthawk_c_m" is 60.9%.
19:35:38  <PublicServer> *** MrRr|_|b3n5 has changed his/her name to rubenv
19:35:41  <nighthawk_c_m> :-/
19:35:43  <PublicServer> <KyleS> should i separate supplier stations if two primaries are next to each other?
19:35:45  <avdg> @nickometer avdg
19:35:45  <Webster> avdg: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "avdg" is 0.0%.
19:35:48  <avdg> :)
19:35:53  <PublicServer> <0DM> yes kyle!
19:35:55  <nighthawk_c_m> ^^
19:36:01  <PublicServer> <KyleS> ok
19:36:36  <snc> @nickometer sonic
19:36:36  <Webster> snc: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "sonic" is 0.0%.
19:36:38  <snc> yay
19:36:43  <snc> @nickometer snc
19:36:43  <Webster> snc: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "snc" is 0.0%.
19:36:49  <ODM> @nickometer ODM
19:36:49  <Webster> ODM: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "ODM" is 27.2%.
19:36:51  <ODM> darn.
19:36:57  <jondisti> !password
19:36:57  <PublicServer> jondisti: sloths
19:37:04  <mrruben5> @nickometer rubenv
19:37:04  <Webster> mrruben5: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "rubenv" is 0.0%.
19:37:09  <PublicServer> *** jond1sti joined the game
19:37:10  <avdg> @nickometer snc: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "snc" is 0.0%.
19:37:10  <Webster> avdg: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "snc: The lame nick-o-meter reading for snc is 0.0%." is 99.98%.
19:37:13  <Kommer> @nickometer Kommer
19:37:13  <Webster> Kommer: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "Kommer" is 0.0%.
19:37:18  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> argh
19:37:28  <Kommer> @nickometer V453000
19:37:29  <Webster> Kommer: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "V453000" is 85.2%.
19:37:31  <PublicServer> <rubenv> lol avdg
19:37:33  <Kommer> lol
19:37:39  <Barbaar> @nickometer lame-nick-o-meter
19:37:39  <Webster> Barbaar: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "lame-nick-o-meter" is 96.1%.
19:37:47  <snc> avdg, lol
19:37:48  <PublicServer> <rubenv> ahahaha
19:37:51  <PublicServer> <0DM> owned.
19:37:57  <nighthawk_c_m> totally
19:38:25  <PublicServer> <avdg> pbs is slow at !possible jam here
19:38:42  <PublicServer> *** sonic joined the game
19:40:27  <Devedse> @nickometer Devedse
19:40:28  <Webster> Devedse: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "Devedse" is 0.0%.
19:40:34  <Devedse> :(
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19:40:51  *** Webster sets mode: +o Phazorx
19:41:22  <PublicServer> <rubenv> omg thats some nice stuff v :P
19:41:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> not yet
19:41:48  <PublicServer> <0DM> where?
19:41:56  <PublicServer> <rubenv> chohall
19:42:10  <PublicServer> <0DM> aah fancy
19:42:11  <PublicServer> <avdg> odm? are buzy at the bear factory?
19:42:28  <PublicServer> <0DM> yes
19:42:39  <PublicServer> <sonic> bear factory? oO
19:42:43  <PublicServer> <0DM> im making the roundabout two-way^^
19:42:48  <PublicServer> <avdg> check "all for ..." and "bear"
19:42:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> sweet
19:43:03  <PublicServer> <avdg> looks like a nice hacky connection :)
19:43:14  <PublicServer> <0DM> which of the many?
19:43:20  <PublicServer> <avdg> ?
19:43:28  <PublicServer> <0DM> afaik i made them all proper
19:43:30  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> we have a roundabout?
19:43:37  <PublicServer> <avdg> yeah :D
19:43:38  <PublicServer> <0DM> yes
19:43:41  <PublicServer> <rubenv> at beer factory
19:43:42  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> zomfg
19:43:52  <PublicServer> <0DM> its gonna be awesum
19:43:53  <PublicServer> <avdg> V's plan I thought :p
19:43:53  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> also, my SRO got more complex :D
19:44:01  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> beer factory?
19:44:15  <PublicServer> <avdg> its acutally at the coke stuff, these signs
19:44:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> the only fizzy drink I know
19:44:28  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> xD
19:44:32  <PublicServer> <avdg> :p
19:44:37  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> never had coca cola or fanta then?
19:44:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> wanna kill me?
19:44:57  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> you're polish, you're allowed to be poor :P
19:45:02  <PublicServer> *** KyleS has left the game (connection lost)
19:45:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> ohh
19:45:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> I am Czech
19:45:12  <PublicServer> <0DM> i have to go for a bit
19:45:15  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> why dont !!theese needs trains have trains
19:45:18  <PublicServer> <0DM> can you please leave finishing the roundabout to me?
19:45:20  <KyleS> !password
19:45:20  <PublicServer> KyleS: sloths
19:45:30  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> V453000: well, czech are even poorer
19:45:35  <PublicServer> *** KyleS joined the game
19:45:36  <PublicServer> *** jond1sti has left the game (connection lost)
19:46:06  <PublicServer> *** leg3nd joined the game
19:46:30  <PublicServer> *** leg3nd has joined company #1
19:46:50  <PublicServer> <leg3nd> Hello all
19:46:54  <PublicServer> *** 0DM has left the game (leaving)
19:46:58  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hey
19:47:05  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00024D07: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00024D07.png
19:47:07  <PublicServer> <leg3nd> any easy task to be done ?
19:47:08  <PublicServer> <avdg> hey
19:47:09  <PublicServer> <KyleS> hi
19:47:23  <PublicServer> <avdg> leg3nd: enjoy and improve whats ugly
19:47:23  <PublicServer> <sonic> add trains to !!theese needs trains
19:47:47  <PublicServer> <leg3nd> avdg: my imporiving skill i have left in my other life :<
19:47:52  <PublicServer> <leg3nd> still newbie :>
19:48:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> XeryusTC: at least we have beer
19:48:16  <PublicServer> <leg3nd> who is talking about beer..
19:48:21  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> to drown your sorrows :P
19:48:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
19:48:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> to drown our brains
19:48:35  <PublicServer> <leg3nd> now i have to go get one.
19:48:38  <PublicServer> <rubenv> hmm, better have the juncteon east of chohall LL_RR as well
19:48:41  <PublicServer> <rubenv> ?
19:49:59  <PublicServer> *** nighthawk_c_m has left the game (leaving)
19:50:14  <Absurd-Mind> !password
19:50:14  <PublicServer> Absurd-Mind: forage
19:50:24  <PublicServer> *** Absurd-Mind joined the game
19:50:35  <PublicServer> <leg3nd> hej what a nice network plan we have.
19:50:42  <PublicServer> <avdg> I know
19:50:42  <Lukeus_Maximus> can I... bribe... a local authourtiy
19:50:49  <PublicServer> <leg3nd> my comp is not total fucked this time :>
19:50:51  <Lukeus_Maximus> or are we against that completely
19:50:51  <PublicServer> <KyleS> :D
19:50:52  <PublicServer> <avdg> its actually almost V45300's plan
19:50:55  <PublicServer> <leg3nd> so fare :>
19:50:55  <PublicServer> <KyleS> me either
19:51:05  <SmatZ> Lukeus_Maximus: it's better to plant trees instead
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19:51:38  <PublicServer> *** KyleS has left the game (connection lost)
19:51:56  <KyleS> !password
19:51:56  <PublicServer> KyleS: forage
19:51:57  <Lukeus_Maximus> I've planted all the trees I can!
19:52:07  <PublicServer> *** KyleS has left the game (desync error)
19:52:07  <PublicServer> *** KyleS joined the game
19:52:19  <Phazorx> :/
19:52:23  <Phazorx> desyn?
19:52:25  <PublicServer> <avdg> sweets drop at limit
19:52:25  <KyleS> yeah
19:52:30  <KyleS> i had one earlier today as well
19:52:34  <Phazorx> not good
19:52:36  <PublicServer> *** tneo has left the game (leaving)
19:53:09  <PublicServer> *** theholyduck has joined company #1
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19:54:00  <PublicServer> <Kommer> many people on the server :)
19:54:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> WTF
19:54:12  <PublicServer> <avdg> thats nice :p
19:54:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> "this is so trains dont use
19:54:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> sign
19:54:20  <PublicServer> *** KyleS has left the game (connection lost)
19:54:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> omg?
19:54:21  <PeterT> TFW
19:54:36  <KyleS> uh
19:54:47  <PublicServer> <baeda> one thing to say: coop is real fun i must admit :))
19:54:59  <PublicServer> <avdg> :)
19:55:09  <PublicServer> <leg3nd> :>
19:55:27  <PublicServer> <avdg> this traffic is raising crazy
19:55:38  <Phazorx> yay for teamwork
19:55:42  <PublicServer> *** tneo has left the game (leaving)
19:56:19  <PublicServer> <leg3nd> like the Toy drop. how its build. :>
19:56:27  <Lukeus_Maximus> who deleted the turn around???
19:56:27  <PublicServer> <leg3nd> pretty.
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19:56:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> me
19:56:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> that is not a solution
19:56:44  <Lukeus_Maximus> without it trains go through my station to turn around
19:56:47  <Lukeus_Maximus>  = jams!
19:57:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> that was no solution
19:57:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> we need to find the missing link
19:57:17  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Bah building a big station for these 3 primaries isn't gonna work
19:57:20  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Time to split it
19:57:24  <KyleS1> trying to join again...if it fails i'll probably just go get other work done -_-
19:57:36  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> where is the problem?
19:57:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> plus Lukeus_Maximus: do NOT use CL1
19:57:59  <KyleS1> !password
19:57:59  <PublicServer> KyleS1: forage
19:58:02  <Lukeus_Maximus> the missing link is at chohall woods
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19:58:40  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> why is there so many trains for chohall east?
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20:02:56  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> pugi, why is there no prio on this thing you built?
20:03:14  <pugi> prios are overrated :D
20:03:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> crap
20:03:31  <PublicServer> <theholyduck>  not when you're repeatedly holding up the mainline :P
20:03:38  <PublicServer> <pugi> hm
20:03:39  <PublicServer> <pugi> which?
20:03:59  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> dadingbury west, just south of the sweets drop thingy
20:04:09  <PublicServer> <pugi> hm, yeah
20:04:27  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> every time a train exists, it  holds up a ML train :P
20:04:49  <PublicServer> <leg3nd> sorry i did really not try to Teraform :>
20:05:16  <PublicServer> <pugi> when i built my stations we didn't have any mainlines
20:05:26  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> pugi, same for a couple of mine
20:05:27  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> :P
20:05:28  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> but now we do
20:05:54  <PublicServer> <pugi> i've never built prios, i would have to look how they are made ^
20:05:57  <PublicServer> <pugi> ^^
20:06:43  <PublicServer> <leg3nd> V ?
20:06:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> m?
20:06:55  <Lukeus_Maximus> why don't the trains require servicing?
20:06:57  <PublicServer> <leg3nd> at Hub 05
20:07:03  <Lukeus_Maximus> there seems to be a complete lack of breakdowns
20:07:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok
20:07:31  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> because breakdowns are disabled
20:07:37  <Lukeus_Maximus> nice to know
20:07:38  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> because you cant run a network this large with them
20:07:38  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> that is planned
20:07:45  <PublicServer> *** tneo has left the game (connection lost)
20:07:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> tha makes gap
20:07:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> 2
20:08:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> and you dont need tha connection
20:08:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> heey
20:08:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> you dont
20:08:31  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> where?
20:08:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> nowhere anymore :)
20:08:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> but at H05
20:08:53  <PublicServer> <Kommer> well you need it if another industry is added that goes to the east
20:09:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> there isnt yet
20:09:31  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> why are you adding lines that clearly arent being used?
20:09:40  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> it looks ugly ;(
20:09:53  <PublicServer> <Kommer> who? where?
20:10:08  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> h05 - unnamed hub
20:10:14  <tneo> look who's there :-D
20:10:18  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> doubling up
20:10:25  <tneo> Kommer, how have you been?
20:10:37  <PublicServer> <Kommer> hey tneo. very very fine :)
20:10:39  <PublicServer> <Kommer> and you?
20:10:52  <tneo> not too bad, busy with a master study atm
20:10:57  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> did it really need doubling there?
20:11:03  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> yeah, was slowing down
20:11:10  <Kommer> was gone for very long time. saw 1.0.0 being released and thought to give it another try :)
20:11:16  <Kommer> ah cool :)
20:11:26  <Kommer> still playing ottd a lot?
20:11:58  <tneo> not as much atm, because of study though
20:12:01  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> they're not using your exttra line though :P
20:12:14  <Kommer> ah yes. obvious :)
20:12:33  <PublicServer> <avdg> more load on that slow junction :(
20:12:36  <Kommer> I'm very busy at work, but my wife is pregnant so some time in the evening now while she is asleep :)
20:13:00  <tneo> congrats :-D
20:13:08  <tneo> when is she due?
20:13:16  <planetmaker> :-O Kommer!
20:13:19  <planetmaker> hello :-)
20:13:38  <Kommer> november somewhere so still not very long.
20:13:41  <Kommer> heya pm :)
20:13:45  <PublicServer> <leg3nd> Where it u V that did build the expansion of LR to LLRR ?
20:13:46  <Kommer> hows life ?
20:13:51  <PublicServer> <leg3nd> At Hub 05
20:13:58  <planetmaker> busy and nice :-)
20:14:01  <Kommer> :)
20:14:03  <PublicServer> <avdg> come and join :)
20:14:09  <planetmaker> just read back a few lines: congratz, Kommer :-)
20:14:13  <Kommer> thanks :)
20:14:22  <Kommer> have been too long since ottd playing :)
20:14:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> leg?
20:14:38  <Kommer> good to see that it is still alive here. really a lot of ppl in the server. and no more 10 clients limit :)
20:14:45  <PublicServer> <leg3nd> yeah ?
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20:15:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> what did you ask
20:15:14  <planetmaker> Kommer: I just removed your ssh access a few days ago... due to your long absense :-P
20:15:23  <Kommer> ow no prob man :)
20:15:25  <PublicServer> <leg3nd> just wondering who where expanding the LR to LLRR at hub 05. with me
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20:15:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> me
20:15:35  <PublicServer> <leg3nd> there where a few that did build there :>
20:15:37  <Kommer> yes, absence was very long :P
20:15:37  <tneo> do I still have one then planetmaker ?
20:15:44  <tneo> too long Kommer :-P
20:15:48  <Kommer> too long in my opinion. but really busy :)
20:15:49  <planetmaker> the seen gave me 45 weeks or so
20:15:49  <Headshot119> Is anyone planning to link up Feby cross cola wells?
20:15:57  <tneo> honeymoon and we lost you there :-P
20:15:59  <Kommer> after marriage, it was  a trip for 4 weeks and then very much work.
20:16:06  <PublicServer> <leg3nd> arr okay. then it where u who i got affraid of HEHE
20:16:12  <Kommer> bought a house, had to renovate it completely, so then there is no ottd time :)
20:16:20  <PublicServer> <KyleS> V, why do those x crosses in HUB 05?  i'm just curious, i don't know why -.-
20:16:21  <tneo> hear hear
20:16:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> sync
20:16:45  <Kommer> new heating, electricity, gas, water, etc. :) was busy for 2 months. now we can live in it, but it is still not done ;)
20:16:57  <tneo> hehe
20:17:04  <tneo> old house?
20:17:06  <Kommer> 1935
20:17:10  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 000397DF: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000397DF.png
20:17:19  <Kommer> pretty old :)
20:17:23  <Headshot119> Sonic mind if I link that industry up?
20:17:26  <tneo> yeah
20:17:39  <Kommer> a very old man lived in it who didn't do anything with it. So painting etc was very old
20:17:40  <PublicServer> <sonic> no, go ahead
20:18:00  <Kommer> but made it cheap to buy. Could taker a long time off of work so was able to build it up again :)
20:18:06  <Kommer> kitchen is the last big project :)
20:18:30  <tneo> you still got like 7 months :-P
20:18:43  <PublicServer> <leg3nd> aint it better to X it ?
20:18:44  <Kommer> yepp :P
20:18:52  <Kommer> 6,5 months orso :)
20:19:08  <PublicServer> <avdg> whooo, the incomen
20:19:12  <PublicServer> <avdg> nice trend
20:19:22  <tneo> anyway got to go
20:19:26  <tneo> ttyl
20:19:37  <Kommer> cya later tneo!
20:19:41  <PublicServer> <avdg> bye
20:19:42  <Kommer> nice to speak to you
20:20:18  <tneo> nice talking to you as well, cu :-)
20:20:43  <PublicServer> <avdg> anyone building there at sweets dorp?
20:20:45  <PublicServer> <avdg> *dorp
20:20:49  <PublicServer> <avdg> *drop
20:20:50  <PublicServer> <avdg> grr
20:20:53  <PublicServer> <KyleS> lol
20:21:15  <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has left the game (connection lost)
20:21:28  <PublicServer> <leg3nd> Still u V that is building.. :>
20:21:42  <PublicServer> <leg3nd> would love a feture that allow to see who is building at your screen :>
20:22:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> ?
20:22:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> ah
20:22:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
20:22:08  <PublicServer> <leg3nd> At the jam.
20:22:15  <PublicServer> <leg3nd> that me and some one just fixed.
20:22:23  <PublicServer> <leg3nd> most someone :>
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20:23:28  <Kommer> well guys, gtg also. good night and cya soon ( i hope ;) )
20:23:39  *** Kommer has quit IRC
20:23:41  <PublicServer> <baeda> sleep well
20:23:47  <PublicServer> *** Kommer has left the game (leaving)
20:24:04  <PublicServer> <avdg> gn
20:24:35  <PublicServer> <rubenv> bah, primary dissapeared when I had my station done :S
20:24:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> buy
20:25:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> öh we have prospect :)
20:25:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> where?
20:25:28  <ODM> !password
20:25:28  <PublicServer> ODM: flocks
20:25:33  <PublicServer> *** 0DM joined the game
20:25:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi ODM
20:25:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> hub 05 now has LL_RR too
20:26:17  <PublicServer> <0DM> nice!
20:26:22  <PublicServer> <rubenv> nvm, looked at it wrong
20:26:22  <PublicServer> <0DM> hows the game going?
20:26:28  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> pretty well semingly
20:26:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> pretty fine
20:26:35  <PublicServer> <avdg> buzzy :p
20:26:50  <PublicServer> <avdg> fix, look, oh 1 more thing to fix :p
20:27:14  <PublicServer> <avdg> found yet missing signals :p
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20:28:15  <nighthawk_c_m> CL is decided by TL and max speed, right?
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20:28:23  <PublicServer> <pugi> only max speed
20:28:35  <planetmaker> nighthawk_c_m: basically yes
20:28:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> and every CL is good if it is TL or longer
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20:30:28  <PublicServer> <rubenv> group your trains guys
20:30:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> SmatZ: XeryusTC said our country is poor, now we can beat him
20:30:30  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> somebody has been forgetting grouping their trains again
20:30:47  <PublicServer> * SmatZ```` beats XeryusTC :)
20:30:52  <PublicServer> *** SmatZ```` has changed his/her name to SmatZ
20:31:05  * V453000 joins on beating XeryusTC
20:31:09  <PublicServer> <SmatZ> :D
20:31:22  <PublicServer> <leg3nd> :>
20:31:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> 2v1
20:32:12  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00025627: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00025627.png
20:32:49  * XeryusTC cries :(
20:32:54  <PublicServer> <baeda> uhm fake-stations for primary pickups (nearby) is okay? or rather build an extra station
20:32:57  * V453000 beats him more
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20:33:21  <XeryusTC> they're fine
20:33:26  <XeryusTC> just dont cross half the map with them :P
20:33:43  <PublicServer> <baeda> nah it's in about 10 tile range
20:34:29  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> odm, i think we need to expand your sweets pickup now
20:34:40  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> you cant add more trains because most platforms are always full
20:34:46  <PublicServer> <0DM> isnt that already being doine?
20:34:55  <PublicServer> <0DM> oh the pickup
20:35:00  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> but we need more trains because we have over 1k in non picked up goods
20:35:13  <PublicServer> <0DM> if you wanna have a go, im still working my roundabout
20:35:23  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> :p
20:35:25  <PublicServer> <KyleS> where is that odm?
20:35:26  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i can try
20:35:31  <PublicServer> <0DM> at the fizzy
20:35:48  <PublicServer> <KyleS> oh the ginormous rounadabout? :D
20:36:10  <PublicServer> <avdg> yep
20:36:21  <PublicServer> <avdg> zoom out, you'll find more :p
20:36:23  <PublicServer> <baeda> igrouped ungrouped trains (again)... btw XeryusTC: your SRO logic trains are in Logic group now.
20:36:30  <PublicServer> <baeda> if you dont like it. change it.
20:37:07  <XeryusTC> that's fine
20:37:13  <PublicServer> <0DM> sonic, you might be better off making it 2 drop stations, 8 platforms each
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