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00:00:28 <Phazorx> KenjiE20: are you quoting things correctly? 00:00:39 <Phazorx> and that does not look like something sensible in perl 00:00:54 <Phazorx> you rarely look up position of something in strings 00:01:00 <KenjiE20> so it seems, the actual code chunk is something like http://codepad.org/ARbbQPMh 00:01:01 <Webster> Title: Perl code- 8 lines - codepad (at codepad.org) 00:01:23 <Phazorx> KenjiE20: what are you trying to do? 00:01:39 <Phazorx> this sounds like a job for formatted print 00:01:45 <KenjiE20> figure out what the biggest 'server#channel' is 00:02:08 *** elmz has quit IRC 00:02:21 <PeterT> FreeNode, #ubuntu 00:03:03 <Phazorx> biggest in which way? 00:03:12 <KenjiE20> longest string 00:03:16 <PeterT> oh 00:03:59 <Phazorx> how about just sort and push? 00:04:31 <KenjiE20> how would I sort on a string? 00:04:42 <Phazorx> you feed list of strings it seems 00:04:50 <Ammler> PeterT: what are those for? 00:04:53 <KenjiE20> yes, in a chronological order 00:05:00 <PeterT> To make ap+ join and part channels, Ammler 00:05:13 <PeterT> via !join and !part :-) 00:05:22 <Phazorx> just sort @bar_lines; print shift @bar_lins could give you what yu want 00:05:23 <Ammler> and why should we need that? 00:05:30 <OwenS> KenjiE20, I assume you're excluding things like [2001:610:6b1:0:a8cc:ff:fe10:105]#openttdcoop.devzone? :p 00:05:47 <Ammler> @kick PublicServer 00:05:47 *** PublicServer was kicked by Webster (Ammler) 00:05:48 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 00:05:48 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 00:05:50 <PeterT> Ammler: I don't know 00:05:52 <KenjiE20> I wouldn't get it in that format for one thing :P 00:06:11 *** Vypus has joined #openttdcoop 00:06:13 <KenjiE20> server is the internal name for whatever server 00:06:15 <Phazorx> KenjiE20: it sounds like you are parsing logfiles 00:06:23 <OwenS> aww :( 00:06:38 <Phazorx> and it sounds like you need to performs some string magic on the list of strings 00:06:38 <KenjiE20> Phazorx: similar, parsing live chat 00:06:50 <Vypus> !password 00:06:50 <PublicServer> Vypus: ensued 00:06:56 <Phazorx> KenjiE20: most application would not know difference between chat and file :) 00:07:03 <Phazorx> since both are pipes on system level 00:07:07 <KenjiE20> quite 00:07:11 <KenjiE20> this is a script 00:07:17 *** KyleS has left #openttdcoop 00:07:21 <Ammler> PeterT: sorry, I don't see the need, but feel free to post those commands on the tracker... 00:07:28 <PeterT> issue? 00:07:29 <PeterT> sure 00:07:30 <PeterT> sure 00:07:37 <PeterT> I will do that now 00:07:38 <PublicServer> *** Vypus joined the game 00:07:42 <Phazorx> so you run it itteratively, aalyzing something line by line on continuous basis? 00:07:59 <KenjiE20> semi, it only triggers when there's a new entry 00:08:01 <Phazorx> rather than analyze whole thing at once, correct? 00:08:05 <Ammler> PeterT: tracker patch or feature 00:08:21 <PeterT> isn't feature a feature request? 00:08:27 <PeterT> it would be more suitible as patch 00:08:44 <Ammler> oki :-) 00:08:51 <KenjiE20> new line appears -> hook triggers script -> script does stuff -> script hands to output formatter -> this bit breaks 00:09:27 <Phazorx> could you provide an example of lines which are at trigger level 00:09:38 <Phazorx> and what is expected to happen with it? 00:09:44 <KenjiE20> yes, look are IRC RFC :P 00:09:47 <KenjiE20> at* 00:09:55 <Phazorx> i'm familiar with it :) 00:10:20 <Phazorx> but i'm not sure what exactly you want to do :) 00:10:22 <KenjiE20> http://codepad.org/ARbbQPMh <-- has the example of what @bar_lines contains a list of 00:10:23 <Webster> Title: Perl code- 8 lines - codepad (at codepad.org) 00:10:49 <Phazorx> yes, and that is one line 00:11:06 <KenjiE20> so it loops @bar_lines searching for the longest instance of server#channel 00:11:10 <Phazorx> and i can guess what you want to find where pipe chatr is in it 00:11:20 <KenjiE20> yup 00:11:37 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00013651: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00013651.png 00:11:42 <Phazorx> and you want #channel part from it 00:11:48 <Phazorx> and it's length? 00:12:11 <KenjiE20> the elength of everything before " | " 00:12:31 <Phazorx> so server#channel together? 00:12:42 <KenjiE20> I've fed lines that are "just text | <nick> some text" 00:12:46 <KenjiE20> and they work fine 00:13:08 <Phazorx> index can be funky in some cases 00:13:17 <KenjiE20> so it seems 00:13:27 <Phazorx> and forone you might want to use single quotes when you deal with strings in perl 00:13:54 <Phazorx> double quotes are something completely different in terms of how it handles the content 00:14:10 <KenjiE20> urg 00:14:29 <Phazorx> also index will give you number for LAST string you look for or -1 for none 00:14:46 <Phazorx> so if there is mroe than one pipe - the output would be rather strange 00:15:19 <KenjiE20> "It returns the position of the first occurrence of SUBSTR in STR at or after POSITION" <-- according to perldoc 00:15:22 <Phazorx> it also can counts none printable characters such as beggining of string or whitespaces 00:15:50 <Phazorx> KenjiE20: hmm... i stand corrected then 00:16:22 <KenjiE20> anyway, seems like I'll have to do some string sanitising 00:16:33 <PublicServer> *** Vypus has left the game (connection lost) 00:16:39 *** Vypus has quit IRC 00:16:46 <KenjiE20> but now would be a bad time 00:16:50 *** mrruben5 has quit IRC 00:16:50 <Phazorx> you can try to use regexp for that 00:16:59 <KenjiE20> yea, I might do 00:17:25 <KenjiE20> for now, I think I'll sleep on it :) 00:17:45 <KenjiE20> cheers for the directional prod 00:18:06 <Phazorx> like /^(.+\#.+) \| / 00:18:27 <Phazorx> and then length 00:18:40 * OwenS feels more glad that he has avoided Perl 00:18:55 <Phazorx> perl is great :) 00:19:03 <KenjiE20> perl is quite nice 00:19:07 <OwenS> Nah. Perl isn't even possible to parse :p 00:19:10 <Phazorx> especially in it's quirkines 00:19:25 <Phazorx> OwenS: well that depends 00:19:31 <KenjiE20> though I might not use perl for big multi file creations :P 00:19:40 <Phazorx> but it has very good context based logic 00:20:01 <OwenS> Phazorx, no, Perl is provably impossible to parse 00:20:11 <KenjiE20> stop reading /. 00:20:13 <KenjiE20> :P 00:20:27 <OwenS> Actually, I was reading perl.org :p 00:20:34 <OwenS> (via lambda the ultimate) 00:20:38 <Phazorx> i had no trouble adapting to perl after c/java 00:20:51 <OwenS> http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=663393 00:20:51 <Phazorx> and it open my eyes into few things 00:20:54 <Webster> Title: Perl Cannot Be Parsed: A Formal Proof (at www.perlmonks.org) 00:21:06 <KenjiE20> I love perl for inline regexping stuff 00:21:06 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> :-D 00:21:44 <OwenS> Parsing Perl involves solving the Halting Problem. We haven't yet solved that one ;-) 00:21:50 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> :-D 00:21:53 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> impressive 00:22:06 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> is the proof readable? 00:22:10 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> by non-experts :-p 00:22:12 <OwenS> Yes 00:22:12 *** mikk36 has quit IRC 00:22:13 <Phazorx> KenjiE20: try length /^(.+\#.+) \| / =~ foreach(@bar_lines); 00:22:20 <KenjiE20> on the flip side, I love python for try: stuff except: dead stuff 00:22:27 *** heffer has quit IRC 00:22:45 * OwenS is a fan of Python and Javascript. And is intending to learn Scheme 00:23:03 <KenjiE20> Phazorx: one problem, might not always be .+\#.+ 00:23:16 <Phazorx> KenjiE20: is there apattern? 00:23:29 <Phazorx> you can split on | 00:23:36 <Phazorx> and then length 1st 00:23:41 <KenjiE20> yea 00:23:49 <KenjiE20> this was my next thing to try I think 00:24:11 * OwenS just sees some line noise and regexp. Wait, regexp is line noise too. 00:24:15 <Phazorx> length split /\|/ for (@bar_lines) 00:24:49 <KenjiE20> anyway, sleeps, my brain is frazzling 00:24:52 <Phazorx> heh 00:24:53 <Phazorx> night 00:25:09 <KenjiE20> I'll grep the logs tomorrow, so if you think of stuff, dump it :) 00:25:24 <Phazorx> i'm thinking of heading to bed actually 00:25:30 <Phazorx> 4.25 here 00:25:33 <KenjiE20> probably wise :) 00:25:49 <KenjiE20> o7 00:26:00 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 00:26:18 *** Phazorx has left #openttdcoop 00:26:39 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000028BF: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000028BF.png 00:41:19 <Chris_Booth> evening all 00:41:28 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> hello CB 00:41:38 <PeterT> hi Chris_Booth 00:41:41 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003832B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0003832B.png 00:41:41 <Chris_Booth> how many beers SmatZ? 00:43:07 <Chris_Booth> hi PeterT how are you these days? 00:43:16 <PeterT> I'm good 00:43:23 <PeterT> are you good Chris? 00:43:26 <PeterT> how is uni? 00:43:36 <Chris_Booth> long time since i have been in IRC properly 00:43:43 <PeterT> indeed 00:43:45 <Chris_Booth> uni is almost over for 2nd year 00:43:55 <Chris_Booth> only 4 essays to finish in 2 weeks 00:44:04 <Chris_Booth> but 90% of them are done 00:44:08 <PeterT> oh, that's good 00:44:08 <Chris_Booth> some not much work 00:44:11 <PeterT> get em done early 00:44:18 <PeterT> then you wont' have to worry about them 00:45:18 <Chris_Booth> not realy only one of them is an issue 00:45:54 <Chris_Booth> which I have to link an SQL oracle DB to JDBC + Java/Android 00:46:23 <Chris_Booth> the JDBC link is being a red neck bitch AR 00:46:28 *** KyleS[1] has joined #openttdcoop 00:46:31 <Chris_Booth> s/AR/ATM 00:46:34 <KyleS[1]> !dl win32 00:46:34 <PublicServer> KyleS[1]: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19611/openttd-trunk-r19611-windows-win32.zip 00:47:02 <Chris_Booth> KyleS[1]: you need any help? 00:47:19 <Chris_Booth> you should change you nick to KyleS 00:49:56 <KyleS[1]> hmm 00:50:01 <KyleS[1]> i think i'm fine 00:50:07 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> great :) 00:50:12 <KyleS[1]> just trying a different computer to see how it runs game 181 00:50:17 <KyleS[1]> my laptop is crippled by it :( 00:50:43 <KyleS[1]> i'll try to change my nick in a bit, srry :S 00:51:33 <PeterT> this is a nice client-side patch: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=32964 :-) 00:51:35 <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums • View topic - Patch: Vehicle+town+industry console commands v20 for r19627 (at www.tt-forums.net) 00:54:36 <KyleS[1]> !password 00:54:36 <PublicServer> KyleS[1]: wilier 00:54:47 <PublicServer> *** KyleS joined the game 00:55:08 <PublicServer> *** KyleS has left the game (connection lost) 00:55:11 <KyleS[1]> zzz 00:55:27 <PeterT> SmatZ: Why is timed-reset of the same map not in ottd? 00:56:43 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000130BE: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000130BE.png 00:57:30 <KyleS[1]> brb 00:57:31 *** KyleS[1] has quit IRC 00:59:21 <Chris_Booth> nice patch post PeterT i will try it 00:59:26 <PeterT> yeah 00:59:31 <PeterT> I have it for 1.0.0 00:59:36 <PeterT> along with watch gui 00:59:44 <PeterT> I use it for the server that I host 00:59:57 <Chris_Booth> only 1.0.0 patch is have ATM is jams/signals patch 01:00:18 <PeterT> yeah, that's useful 01:00:18 <Chris_Booth> which is the best patch IMO 01:00:23 <PeterT> Bilbo is updating his patchpack 01:00:31 <PeterT> to 1.0.0 01:00:42 <Chris_Booth> that patch is amazing in current PS gam 01:01:03 <PeterT> thank Eddi|zuHause in #openttd 01:04:25 *** KyleSt has joined #openttdcoop 01:04:27 <Chris_Booth> na why thank people for what they love its just laim 01:04:31 <Chris_Booth> lame 01:04:53 <Chris_Booth> if you thanked everyone who made a patch or contribution to this game 01:05:06 <Chris_Booth> the forum would be endless with players thanks 01:05:14 <PeterT> Only thank people that made a patch that you liked 01:05:25 <PeterT> thanking people for bad patches... baad 01:05:54 <Chris_Booth> Eddi|zuHause is good but i am sure he gets enough thanks 01:06:15 <Chris_Booth> since he is an Openttd Dev anyway 01:06:21 <PeterT> He is not 01:06:55 <Chris_Booth> realy i thoight they where 01:07:12 <Chris_Booth> i dont look st #openttd chan list but that is just me 01:07:12 <PeterT> nope, he just helps out a bunch in the IRC channel 01:07:23 <Chris_Booth> i always assumed they where 01:08:02 <Chris_Booth> well it is 2am here 01:08:10 <Chris_Booth> and it is my bed time 01:08:15 <Chris_Booth> night night all 01:08:16 <PeterT> good night Chris_Booth 01:08:24 <Chris_Booth> SmatZ and PeterT 01:08:32 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 01:08:34 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> good night, Chris 01:11:45 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000162D3: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000162D3.png 01:12:28 *** KyleSt has quit IRC 01:26:47 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000162C3: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000162C3.png 01:28:55 *** KyleSt has joined #openttdcoop 01:29:00 <KyleSt> !password 01:29:00 <PublicServer> KyleSt: refill 01:29:29 <PublicServer> *** KyleS joined the game 01:32:23 *** OwenS has quit IRC 01:32:49 <PublicServer> *** KyleS has left the game (connection lost) 01:36:18 <PublicServer> *** KyleS joined the game 01:41:49 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002BCFC: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002BCFC.png 01:56:46 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ has left the game (connection lost) 01:56:51 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001AEEC: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001AEEC.png 01:58:24 <PublicServer> *** KyleS has left the game (leaving) 01:58:24 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 01:58:30 *** KyleSt has quit IRC 02:00:36 <SmatZ> "If you can parse Perl, you can solve the Halting Problem. " 02:00:49 <SmatZ> yay, I should try to write a (static) perl parser 8-) 02:01:04 *** SmatZ_ has quit IRC 02:12:53 *** roboboy has joined #openttdcoop 02:52:59 *** KyleS has joined #openttdcoop 02:53:19 <KyleS> @wiki IRC commands 02:53:21 <Webster> IRC Commands - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Special:Search?go=Go&search=IRC%20commands 02:53:52 <KyleS> !playercount 02:53:52 <PublicServer> KyleS: Number of players: 1 02:53:55 <KyleS> !password 02:53:55 <PublicServer> KyleS: brisks 02:54:32 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 02:54:33 <PublicServer> *** KyleS joined the game 02:54:59 <PublicServer> *** KyleS has left the game (connection lost) 02:54:59 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 02:55:07 <KyleS> =_= 03:01:30 *** gr00vy has quit IRC 03:05:46 *** gr00vy has joined #openttdcoop 03:53:20 *** roboboy has quit IRC 04:41:03 *** mixrin has joined #openttdcoop 05:19:49 *** elmz has joined #openttdcoop 06:01:56 *** Tray has joined #openttdcoop 06:02:23 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop 06:02:23 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 06:16:11 *** roboboy has joined #openttdcoop 06:21:35 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Hub 11 is looking alot cleaner :) 06:22:46 <ODM> !password 06:22:46 <PublicServer> ODM: snails 06:22:51 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 06:22:52 <PublicServer> *** 0DM joined the game 06:23:12 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 06:23:50 <PublicServer> <0DM> 1350 trains, not bad 06:25:02 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Hehe... As soon as the game got unpaused, my gpu-fans started speeding up :P 06:26:10 <ODM> lol 06:28:28 <planetmaker> moin 06:28:44 <planetmaker> Giddorah: are you sure it's not the _C_PU fan? 06:30:29 <PublicServer> <0DM> hey pm 06:30:55 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> planetmaker: Yes, actually :) 06:31:22 <planetmaker> heya ODM 06:31:29 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> My gpu is very overclocked and the fans are running really slow when there is no load... So even the slightest load-increase on the gpu speeds up the gpu-fans a little bit :) 06:34:26 <PublicServer> <0DM> well let me turn your fan off then:P 06:34:49 <PublicServer> *** 0DM has left the game (leaving) 06:34:50 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 06:35:01 <ODM> woo i have remote powers 06:35:18 *** ^Spike^ has joined #openttdcoop 06:35:18 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ^Spike^ 06:35:47 *** mixrin has quit IRC 06:37:18 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Haha 06:37:22 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> It really turned off 06:37:27 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> And I wasn't even watching the window :D 06:44:55 *** einKarl has joined #openttdcoop 06:50:02 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 06:52:29 *** roboboy has quit IRC 07:00:04 *** roboboy has joined #openttdcoop 07:20:43 <Giddorah> !ip 07:20:44 <PublicServer> Giddorah: ps.openttdcoop.org 07:20:51 <dihedral> server is still up \o/ 07:20:52 <Giddorah> Stupid ISP... 07:20:56 <dihedral> i am so happy !! 07:21:06 <planetmaker> .-) 07:21:10 <planetmaker> salut dihedral 07:21:10 <Giddorah> Crashed DNS-servers.... 07:21:39 <dihedral> hello pm 07:21:52 <dihedral> 91.198.87.142 <- Giddorah 07:21:53 <planetmaker> dihedral: the old mac you own: is it ppc or intel? 07:21:58 <dihedral> ppc 07:22:03 <planetmaker> and 10.5? 07:22:11 <dihedral> 10.4 07:22:13 <planetmaker> ah 07:22:16 <dihedral> :-P 07:22:27 <Giddorah> Can't ping it... 07:22:28 <dihedral> i hardly use it :-S 07:22:35 <planetmaker> nothing bad about that. I'd do a " :-P " if it'd be 10.3 :-P 07:22:39 <Giddorah> Ping request could not find host 91.198.876.142. Please check the name and try a 07:22:39 <Giddorah> gain. 07:22:59 * planetmaker wishes to be (again) able to compile universal binaries 07:23:06 <dihedral> ^^ 07:23:14 <dihedral> Giddorah: there is nothing we can do about that ;-) 07:23:21 <planetmaker> but there's so many libs which don't support that atm... 07:23:25 <Giddorah> No no! That's not why I'm complaining :P 07:23:33 <dihedral> the network issue is most likely somewhere between you and your isp 07:23:49 <dihedral> it's a good idea to try to call your isp's tech support 07:23:56 <dihedral> perhps there is a peering issue? 07:24:28 <dihedral> planetmaker: i do know how the old universal bins were made? 07:24:38 <dihedral> they had a bin for 10.5 one for 10.4 .... 07:24:51 <dihedral> just all in one download ^^ 07:25:32 <dihedral> Giddorah: can you ping blog.openttdcoop.org ? 07:26:14 <Giddorah> Nope 07:26:27 <Giddorah> Nothing... Not a single IP or adress :( 07:26:38 <dihedral> :-P 07:26:44 <Giddorah> Sigh... Up until about one month ago my connection dropped every 4 hours 07:26:52 <dihedral> let me guess - ping seems disabled and may not go through your fw 07:27:03 <ODM> my connection drops whenever it wants to:P 07:27:08 <dihedral> "your fw" stands for any firewall between you and any other server 07:27:18 <Giddorah> No fw's 07:27:25 <dihedral> Giddorah: there are 07:27:25 <Giddorah> Not at my place 07:27:32 <dihedral> lattest at your isp ;-) 07:27:36 <Giddorah> Maybe ISP fw's 07:27:40 <Giddorah> Yeah 07:27:52 <dihedral> can you access http://blog.openttdcoop.org ? 07:28:17 *** mrruben5 has joined #openttdcoop 07:28:37 <Giddorah> Nope 07:28:39 <Giddorah> Nothing 07:28:58 <dihedral> then i do not get how on earth you can be connected to irc ;-) 07:29:11 <Giddorah> I know :) 07:29:18 <Giddorah> Let me try another server 07:29:27 <dihedral> try google.com ^^ 07:29:31 <Giddorah> Nope 07:29:31 <dihedral> or google.se rather :-P 07:29:45 <dihedral> you say dns is down? 07:29:48 <Giddorah> Cant connect to any other servers either 07:30:07 <dihedral> try this dns server: 208.67.222.222 07:30:09 <Giddorah> Seems like connections I've already made are still around 07:30:16 <dihedral> aye 07:30:23 <Giddorah> I can ping that 07:30:32 <dihedral> enter that as a dns server ;-) 07:30:56 <dihedral> fyi: that's one of the OpenDNS dns servers 07:31:04 <Giddorah> Are they fast? 07:31:41 <dihedral> .... 07:32:35 <dihedral> dns is fast enough for you ;-) 07:33:17 <planetmaker> dihedral: the universals were made as universal binaries. And that works afaik by compiling it as such: a universal binary linked against SDK-10.4u 07:33:54 <planetmaker> and that still'd work, if my libraries were linked as such. 07:34:00 <Giddorah> Can't get it to work :( 07:34:21 <planetmaker> but in order to faciliate that, I'd need to tell macports to use the 10.4u SDK as the default one. Which might not be the best option either. 07:34:43 <planetmaker> as I might then loose my 64bit ones... which would be bad, too ;-) 07:35:56 <dihedral> Giddorah: linux windows mac? 07:36:12 <dihedral> pm: :-P 07:36:23 <Giddorah> w7 07:40:18 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 07:46:07 *** KyleS has left #openttdcoop 07:48:50 <PublicServer> *** Giddorah has left the game (connection lost) 07:50:39 *** Tray has quit IRC 07:54:52 *** Giddorah has quit IRC 07:56:13 <dihedral> hehe 07:56:54 <dihedral> lol Giddorah understood 'pm: :-P' in an interesting way.... he sent me a .... 'pm' :-P 07:56:57 <dihedral> lol 07:58:13 <ODM> haha 07:58:14 <ODM> nice:P 07:59:02 <ODM> anyway bb 07:59:53 *** ODM has quit IRC 08:01:45 <planetmaker> haha :-) 08:04:45 <PublicServer> *** MrRuben joined the game 08:04:55 *** Giddorah has joined #openttdcoop 08:05:23 <Giddorah> After a quick call to the ISP and a reboot of the "port" at ISP-level my connection is back and working :) 08:05:26 <Giddorah> !password 08:05:26 <PublicServer> Giddorah: gummed 08:05:32 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 08:05:32 <PublicServer> *** Giddorah joined the game 08:06:26 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I think HUB11 needs some prio-work 08:11:19 * dihedral wonders how one wants to 'reboot' a 'port' ^^ 08:11:54 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001CB0F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001CB0F.png 08:14:51 <PublicServer> *** MrRuben has left the game (leaving) 08:14:51 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 08:17:33 *** roboboy has quit IRC 08:20:28 *** Phazorx has joined #openttdcoop 08:20:28 *** Webster sets mode: +o Phazorx 08:21:13 *** roboboy has joined #openttdcoop 08:23:56 *** Mazur has joined #openttdcoop 08:24:11 <Mazur> !help 08:24:11 <PublicServer> Mazur: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands 08:24:31 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 08:25:39 <Mazur> !revision 08:25:39 <PublicServer> Mazur: Game version is r19611 08:26:59 <Mazur> Then why did the link to download point me to 19630? Oh well, never mind. 08:28:10 <Mazur> !svn 08:28:10 <PublicServer> Mazur: svn update -r19611 && make && ./bin/openttd -n ps.openttdcoop.org#1 -p cashed 08:28:10 <PublicServer> Mazur: svn checkout -r19611 svn://svn.openttd.org/trunk openttdcoop && cd openttdcoop && ./configure && make 08:28:58 <pugi> !password 08:28:58 <PublicServer> pugi: cashed 08:29:24 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 08:29:25 <PublicServer> *** pugi joined the game 08:30:13 *** Doorslammer has joined #openttdcoop 08:32:06 *** Tray has joined #openttdcoop 08:36:35 *** devilsadvocate has joined #openttdcoop 08:40:38 <PublicServer> <pugi> ... 08:41:56 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002225F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002225F.png 08:43:21 <PublicServer> <pugi> omg... 08:43:40 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> ? 08:43:41 <PublicServer> <pugi> the pbs paths a train right into a crashed train 08:43:49 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Where? 08:43:50 <PublicServer> <pugi> and the next train crashes 08:43:54 <PublicServer> <pugi> dadingbury north 08:44:17 <Tray> !password 08:44:17 <PublicServer> Tray: cached 08:44:20 <PublicServer> <pugi> it crashed when i made a breaking space 08:44:26 <PublicServer> *** Tray joined the game 08:44:30 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Cool :) 08:44:44 <PublicServer> *** Tray has left the game (connection lost) 08:44:58 <PublicServer> <pugi> and when they finally disappeared, as soon as the pbs was free the next train got pathed right into the wreck <.< 08:52:28 <dihedral> make a bug report! 08:52:51 <pugi> where? 08:55:24 <Ammler> pugi: first try to reproduce on simple local game 08:55:36 <pugi> mmh 08:56:00 <Ammler> !screen 08:56:03 <PublicServer> *** Ammler made screenshot at 00021E5E: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00021E5E.png 08:56:26 <Ammler> could you place a sign? 08:56:30 <pugi> trainlimit :P 08:56:38 <pugi> i did 08:56:42 <Ammler> !screen 08:56:42 <PublicServer> *** Ammler liked to make screenshot of last action, but nobody was working since. (http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png) 08:56:45 <pugi> op lane 08:57:01 <Ammler> could you do something there for a screen :-P 08:57:34 <Ammler> (that is why I asked for sign) 08:59:26 <Ammler> !screen 08:59:26 <PublicServer> *** Ammler liked to make screenshot of last action, but nobody was working since. (http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png) 08:59:36 <Ammler> oh well 08:59:54 <pugi> well, what should i describe more? 09:00:30 <pugi> i made a mistake while adding breaking space in front of the terminus stations 09:00:42 <pugi> so two trains crashed in the north platform 09:00:53 <pugi> and then when the trains got slowly removed 09:01:15 <pugi> as soon as the tile with the pbs was free, the next train behind that got pathed into the wreckage from the old train 09:02:29 <Ammler> pugi: if you can't reproduce, maybe a autosave helps? 09:02:31 *** grim45932 has quit IRC 09:02:37 *** grim45932 has joined #openttdcoop 09:02:41 <pugi> i didn't try to reproduce :P 09:03:13 <Ammler> http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/save/autosave/?C=M;O=D 09:03:43 *** nighthawk_c_m has joined #openttdcoop 09:03:55 <pugi> wow... that autosave folder must be huge :D 09:07:21 <pugi> okay 09:07:37 <pugi> load this savegame: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/save/autosave/dmp_cmds_1efaab30_000c8180.sav 09:08:16 <pugi> and 2 seconds after loading the crashed train is in the top left of the screen is getting removed and the train behind it pathes into it 09:08:39 <pugi> okay, not even 1 second after loading it ^^ 09:09:04 <pugi> http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/save/autosave/dmp_cmds_1efaab30_000c8160.sav <-- or dl this and wait a few minutes, already crashed there 09:10:30 <PublicServer> *** Amm1er has left the game (connection lost) 09:10:42 <pugi> ah, i can replace them... 09:11:02 *** roboboy has quit IRC 09:11:52 <Ammler> where is top left? 09:11:58 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00021A67: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00021A67.png 09:12:01 <pugi> dadingbury north station 09:12:20 <pugi> everytime i load the savegame it is the station top left of the screen... 09:12:44 <pugi> or pause immediatly after loading it 09:12:52 <pugi> and go to dadingbury north 09:13:10 <Ammler> I see, strange 09:13:11 <pugi> it is northwest of sweets drop 09:13:42 <Ammler> looks like patch isn't reserved anymoreb because of the crash? 09:13:47 <Ammler> path* 09:13:56 <pugi> yes 09:15:22 <Ammler> the 2nd train doesn't crash anymore 09:16:06 <PublicServer> *** Amm1er joined the game 09:16:17 <Ammler> !rcon pwd 09:16:17 <PublicServer> Ammler: /home/openttd/svn-public/autopilot/save/autosave/ 09:16:34 <Ammler> !rcon load dmp_cmds_1efaab30_000c8160.sav 09:16:45 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 09:16:58 <PublicServer> *** Amm1er joined the game 09:17:30 <pugi> !password 09:17:30 <PublicServer> pugi: hooted 09:17:50 <Ammler> sometimes, reload is strange 09:17:59 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 09:18:00 <PublicServer> *** pugi joined the game 09:19:36 <pugi> and crash again 09:19:55 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> yes, but next train doesn't crash anymore 09:20:02 <pugi> yes 09:20:13 <pugi> but that didn't crash before either 09:21:19 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> so it lost reserved path because you were building something 09:22:02 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> so you can't reproduce, I assume? 09:22:09 <PublicServer> <pugi> i could try loading a savegame before the first crash and try to reproduce 09:22:41 <PublicServer> <pugi> one train was trapped in north platform 09:23:08 <PublicServer> <pugi> the tile directly in front of the platform was still missing 09:23:35 <PublicServer> <pugi> and one train was pathed by pbs straight 09:23:44 <PublicServer> <pugi> so both were moving back and forth all the time 09:23:52 <PublicServer> <pugi> i placed the missing tile - they crashed 09:26:13 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> I crashed again 2 09:27:00 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00022E81: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00022E81.png 09:29:51 <PublicServer> *** Amm1er has left the game (connection lost) 09:29:52 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 09:32:11 <pugi> weird... 09:32:18 <pugi> train is stopping now 09:32:29 <pugi> and waiting for crashed trains to disappear 09:33:36 <pugi> okay, can't reproduce 09:33:57 <pugi> although i let them crash at the same place again 09:34:06 <pugi> while doing the same 09:34:59 <pugi> maybe i would be able to reproduce, if they were in the right place/direction when i was placing the missing tile 09:35:15 <PublicServer> *** pugi has left the game (leaving) 09:42:02 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop 09:42:03 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00022A7F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00022A7F.png 09:50:49 *** pugi has quit IRC 09:56:47 *** Devedse has joined #openttdcoop 09:57:17 *** Tray has quit IRC 09:58:13 <Devedse> !password 09:58:13 <PublicServer> Devedse: summon 09:59:36 <PublicServer> *** Devedse joined the game 10:01:46 <Devedse> O_O the game is paused :( 10:05:52 <PublicServer> *** Devedse has left the game (leaving) 10:13:59 *** Devedse has quit IRC 10:44:43 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 10:44:44 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 11:08:02 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop 11:08:02 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 11:20:11 *** owenshep has joined #openttdcoop 11:20:24 *** owenshep is now known as OwenS 11:23:16 *** Fuco has joined #openttdcoop 11:23:20 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Fuco 11:31:30 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 11:32:29 <Mazur> !p 11:32:33 <Mazur> !password 11:32:33 <PublicServer> Mazur: impure 11:32:48 <PublicServer> *** Player joined the game 11:32:48 <Webster> Player, please change your in game nick 11:38:14 <PublicServer> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 11:42:25 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ joined the game 11:47:34 <dihedral> SmatZ: you do know there is a 'name' command :-P 11:47:44 <dihedral> or was that Mazur? 11:47:45 <dihedral> :-P 11:49:58 <Mazur> That was me. 11:50:02 <SmatZ> :-p 11:50:15 <Mazur> Sorry, just having a first look, still learning all the ropes. 11:51:08 <Mazur> Now I'm trying to find out how to set it before even joining. 11:52:09 <V453000> in the lobby window 11:52:16 <V453000> where you find servers 11:52:52 <V453000> but if you write in the console "name <your desired name>" now, then you dont need to set it later 11:53:00 <V453000> it should automatically remember 11:56:57 *** Phazorx has quit IRC 12:00:19 *** Tray has joined #openttdcoop 12:05:46 *** VictorOfSweden has joined #openttdcoop 12:08:55 <Mazur> Why does it insist on reading language packs that aren;t there, when I want to use English anyway? 12:13:57 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> Mazur: come to play ;) 12:18:07 <ODM> !password 12:18:07 <PublicServer> ODM: covets 12:18:22 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 12:18:24 <PublicServer> *** 0DM joined the game 12:20:38 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> hello ODM :-) 12:20:41 <PublicServer> <0DM> ellow 12:20:47 <PublicServer> <0DM> did you check the wiki bit? 12:26:22 <SmatZ> !rcon set rail_firstred_twoway_eol 12:26:22 <PublicServer> SmatZ: 'rail_firstred_twoway_eol' is an unknown setting. 12:26:26 <SmatZ> !rcon set yapf.rail_firstred_twoway_eol 12:26:26 <PublicServer> SmatZ: Current value for 'yapf.rail_firstred_twoway_eol' is: 'on' (min: 0, max: 1) 12:26:40 <SmatZ> ODM: ^^^ for some reason, the yapf. prefix isn needed 12:26:55 <ODM> fair point 12:27:05 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00022A7B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00022A7B.png 12:27:21 <PublicServer> *** MrRuben joined the game 12:30:46 <PublicServer> <0DM> heya ruben 12:31:10 <PublicServer> <0DM> cl3 is awesome because you can make those fancy turning circles 12:31:11 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> hey 12:31:36 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> cl3? where :) 12:32:01 <PublicServer> <0DM> everywhere? 12:32:50 <PublicServer> <0DM> bbiab 12:32:50 *** Tray has quit IRC 12:32:53 <PublicServer> *** 0DM has left the game (connection lost) 12:33:03 *** Tray has joined #openttdcoop 12:34:54 <dihedral> \o/ 12:34:59 <dihedral> found a new vps host ^^ 12:35:01 <dihedral> Osai: ? 12:35:26 <dihedral> gnah 12:35:27 <Paul2> dihedral: who you going for? 12:35:47 <dihedral> clano-it.com 12:36:48 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> jam :( 12:36:58 <Ammler> and why you think, it is any better? 12:37:43 <planetmaker> cheaper probably ;-) 12:37:52 <dihedral> nope 12:38:01 <Ammler> well, it is 12:38:03 <dihedral> i can cancle the contract monthly 12:38:04 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> my roundabout is jammed :( 12:38:10 <dihedral> i get 8 ip's with no extra cost 12:38:16 <planetmaker> 8? 12:38:20 <dihedral> i get 4 cores 12:38:22 <OwenS> dihedral, who is it? 12:38:23 <dihedral> 3GB RAM 12:38:26 <dihedral> 100GB hdd 12:38:27 <planetmaker> for a dedicated or a vserver? 12:38:28 <Osai> dihedral: Yes?? 12:38:37 <dihedral> vserver 12:38:38 <planetmaker> it only reads 4 IPs here, dihedral 12:38:40 <dihedral> Osai :-) 12:38:49 <dihedral> yep - i just was on the phone with them ^^ 12:39:01 <dihedral> Osai: http://www.clano-it.com/services/vserver/ 12:39:03 <dihedral> XL 12:39:14 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game 12:39:15 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hello 12:39:21 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> hey mate 12:39:26 <dihedral> if i send in the contract today, i get the vm tomorrow morning 12:39:31 <OwenS> Gyah, german company... 12:39:37 <dihedral> :-P 12:39:41 <ODM> aaha germans! 12:39:43 <ODM> theyre invading! 12:39:47 <Osai> I'll have a look at it 12:39:59 <OwenS> Not an issue with germany in particular, more with german :p 12:40:03 <ODM> Osai, how did the tournament go? 12:40:08 <Osai> but I at work right now 12:40:19 <dihedral> Osai: i might get it anyway ^^ 12:40:22 <dihedral> regardless :-D 12:40:31 <dihedral> but: it's not 50 eur / month 12:40:33 <dihedral> and no setup costs 12:40:37 <Osai> ODM: we lost vs finland :/ 12:40:55 <ODM> :( but you became 2nd? 12:41:01 <Osai> g2g again 12:41:03 <ODM> tc 12:41:13 <Osai> ODM: no :( 12:41:19 <dihedral> Osai: does the bnc forward messages to your phone? 12:41:26 <ODM> :( to bad 12:41:27 <Osai> yes 12:41:29 <dihedral> good 12:41:32 <dihedral> :-P 12:41:38 <dihedral> just so i know 12:41:42 <Osai> thats Why i was here 12:41:47 <dihedral> \o/ 12:41:53 <Osai> cya guys 12:41:54 <dihedral> next time i'll send you the entire line then 12:41:59 <Osai> kk 12:42:07 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000194F5: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000194F5.png 12:42:14 <Osai> Best Way is a quer 12:42:15 <Osai> y 12:43:41 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm, east exit of hub8 isn't joining that well 12:43:55 <dihedral> k, i'll remember that sir 12:44:31 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> why are there bubbles/cola trains going through my roundabout at slh 01? 12:44:46 <Ammler> dihedral: did you ask for special vserver limits 12:44:50 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> they seem to use it to turn around :S 12:44:59 <Ammler> like openfiles, kmemsize etc.? 12:45:46 * OwenS wonders why people don't just get Xen VMs where you don't have to worry about the host screwing up the config 12:46:05 <Ammler> OwenS: where? 12:46:08 <dihedral> Ammler: no, they don't use virtuozo 12:46:10 <dihedral> or OpenVZ 12:46:20 <Ammler> dihedral: so no such limits at all? 12:46:23 <OwenS> What do they use? 12:46:33 <dihedral> some own gobble de gook 12:46:46 <OwenS> Sounds unlikely. More like they don't want to say ;-) 12:46:55 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has left the game (connection lost) 12:48:27 <dihedral> OwenS: no kidding ;-) 12:48:33 <dihedral> i'll find out once i am on that box 12:48:48 <dihedral> and i can cancle the contract every month, a week before the billing date 12:48:51 <OwenS> :) 12:49:03 <OwenS> Hopefully Xen. Hopefully not User Mode Linux. Definitely avoid Linux/VServer 12:49:51 <OwenS> If it seems to be a stock x86/x86_64 kernel, its probably KVM or VMWare ESX 12:50:44 <dihedral> aparently i can instal whatever i want 12:50:50 <dihedral> i asked for ubuntu 10.04 :-P 12:50:58 <OwenS> Heh 12:51:04 <OwenS> I run 9.04 LTS 12:51:40 <dihedral> 9.04 is no lts ;-) 12:51:46 <OwenS> Is it 9.10 thats LTS? 12:51:54 <dihedral> 8.04 and 10.04 12:52:03 <dihedral> those 2 are lts 12:52:08 <OwenS> Hmm... Perhaps Im on 9.10. I forget 12:52:30 <OwenS> Aah no, Hardy 8.04 12:52:55 <OwenS> 08:52:46 up 102 days, 10:07, 2 users, load average: 0.05, 0.02, 0.00 ^^ 12:53:09 <OwenS> 2 users? Did I leave the console logged in? :S 12:53:29 <dihedral> hehe 12:53:31 <dihedral> using screen? 12:53:51 <OwenS> No. I mean I probably left /dev/tty0 logged in 12:54:35 <dihedral> uh - if you ever want to sudo to another user and use a screen session that user started 12:54:40 <dihedral> chmod 777 your tty :-D 12:54:42 <dihedral> or pts 12:54:43 <dihedral> :-P 12:54:48 <dihedral> then sudo 12:54:50 <dihedral> then screen -x 12:55:23 <Ammler> ah, nice hint 12:55:24 <OwenS> Hm... I should probably change my mirrors from us. to uk. since I had my VPS shipped to London a few months back... 12:56:13 <Ammler> dihedral: do they have suse? 12:56:53 <dihedral> yarp 12:56:55 <dihedral> ^^ 12:57:02 <OwenS> Who wants SuSE? :p 12:57:08 <Ammler> nobody 12:57:09 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001850A: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001850A.png 12:57:31 <Ammler> but I would want suse :-) 12:57:39 <Ammler> or SUSE 12:58:31 <Ammler> the best distro for openttd :-) 12:58:41 <OwenS> "The following packages have been kept back: bind9-host". Why is bind9 even installed? I use PowerDNS! 12:59:14 <OwenS> * Stopping MySQL database server mysqld [fail] <-- WHAT?! 12:59:35 <dihedral> 14:57 < OwenS> Who wants SuSE? :p <- hihi 12:59:40 *** mixrin has joined #openttdcoop 12:59:55 <Progman> I got this all the time if I shutdown my pc ;) 13:00:03 <dihedral> LOL 13:00:27 * OwenS just attacked with "kill 3203" :) 13:01:25 * OwenS updates nginx 13:03:03 * OwenS loves how quickly nginx compiles 13:03:12 <hylje> it's russian efficiency 13:03:23 <dihedral> ... 13:04:34 *** Icetray has joined #openttdcoop 13:05:02 *** Tray has quit IRC 13:08:50 <ODM> russian? 13:09:33 *** Icetray has quit IRC 13:09:34 *** Icetray has joined #openttdcoop 13:09:40 <OwenS> ODM, nginx is russian 13:09:43 <ODM> fancy 13:09:47 <ODM> does it work on wodka? 13:10:20 <Ammler> seems better to work as on whiskey 13:10:27 <Ammler> like apache does :-) 13:12:11 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000178BE: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000178BE.png 13:13:07 <Giddorah> !password 13:13:07 <PublicServer> Giddorah: ledges 13:13:16 <PublicServer> *** Giddorah joined the game 13:13:57 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Whats the 182-gameplans? 13:14:10 <theholyduck> how is the game going? 13:14:21 <theholyduck> :O 13:14:28 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Fine it seems 13:14:58 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> there's some stuff going on between 12 and 02 13:17:54 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Why not do presignals instead of PBS? 13:20:01 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Cola Drop seems to be close to max capacity 13:20:06 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> yeah :( 13:20:12 *** Mucht has quit IRC 13:22:23 <ODM> tbh i think the game wont go on for too much longer 13:22:36 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game 13:22:42 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> I hope 13:22:45 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> hmmm 13:22:45 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> :( 13:22:46 <XeryusTC> we should do a game analisys on the blog :o 13:22:47 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> I like it :) 13:22:54 <PublicServer> * MrRuben wonders if we will reach 2k trains 13:23:08 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Not with limit set to 1350 :P 13:23:11 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> yes I can see why smatz likes it :P 13:23:12 <ODM> feel free to xeryus:P 13:23:35 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> We're at max capacity right now 13:23:44 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Adding more trains would make no sense 13:23:47 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> lol pugi was border again :D 13:24:00 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> I know giddorah, but you can always upgrade :) 13:24:15 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Sure :P 13:24:15 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> but yeah 13:24:18 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i dont feel like hacking around in this network anymore 13:24:22 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> get's rather complicated now even 13:24:35 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> everything which jams is basicly slow joining because of prios 13:24:37 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> You wanna start with adding 2 more "mainlines" and I'll add more trains? :) 13:25:13 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> It's a fun network... But it's grown out of proportion :P 13:27:13 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000B6A2: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000B6A2.png 13:27:16 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> this game should have more then 1 screenshot for the game archive imho :P 13:27:28 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> candy mountain ftw 13:27:33 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Make a huge one :) 13:27:49 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> hahaha smatz 13:27:50 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> X: Know 182-plans? 13:28:07 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> lets delete all non liquirice trees 13:28:19 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> D: 13:28:20 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> :D 13:28:40 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> wtf, complaining about CL in station entries xD 13:28:56 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> like it matters, trains stop a few tiles later anyway xD 13:29:26 *** ODM has quit IRC 13:29:31 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> that drop needs extending 13:30:00 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> true 13:30:23 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i could've guessed that 12 platforms werent going to hold up 13:30:43 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> there is other part of the drop on the top of the hill :) 13:30:49 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> but it's not used as much as it used to 13:31:08 <Ammler> looks like the map is going to become a nice planned chaos? 13:31:11 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> that drop is only used for trains comming from the east and west ML 13:31:17 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> planned? :) 13:31:30 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> The plan is basically: Use maglevs 13:31:34 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> :) 13:31:45 <Ammler> well, but nice :-P 13:31:52 *** murr4y has joined #openttdcoop 13:32:15 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> X: You could use it to relieve the 12 other platforms of some stress 13:32:29 <Ammler> another idea is to start a game like b2b and add a planned network later 13:33:04 <XeryusTC> this game can teach us quite a few things 13:33:10 <XeryusTC> like spreading your main stations 13:34:47 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> X: See my proposed change 13:35:21 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> quite possible 13:35:33 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Want to try it? 13:35:39 <XeryusTC> sure 13:35:54 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I will 13:36:29 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Atleast a little better... I think it will be 13:36:56 <XeryusTC> yoda approve does 13:37:11 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Speaking funny we are 13:39:01 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Well... It cleared one entrance-lane :) 13:39:24 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> nice 13:39:55 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> no traffic anymore 13:40:10 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Not as much atleast 13:40:41 *** Icetray has quit IRC 13:40:54 *** Tray has joined #openttdcoop 13:41:15 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Big jam at Teningville Woods 13:42:15 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000FCC8: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000FCC8.png 13:42:35 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> so where is the tomatosauce 13:42:39 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> sorry, I'm hungry 13:42:48 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> and my favorite food is italian :D 13:43:57 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Hmmm 13:44:04 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I'm having a bad feeling 13:44:10 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> why? 13:44:26 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Nvm... Looked like Cola Drop was running out of trains 13:44:42 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> never! 13:45:40 <gleeb> Good news, everyone! 13:45:53 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Youre pregnant? 13:46:02 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> have you invented a device that makes us read your messages in your voice? 13:46:12 <KenjiE20> you taught the toaster to feel love? 13:46:19 <gleeb> I could be playing OpenTTD again soon. More crappy plans you shouldn't vote for but do anyway! 13:46:40 <gleeb> I'm fixing my PC as we speak :) 13:46:41 <KenjiE20> SmatZ: :) 13:46:48 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> ooooh 13:46:55 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> 12 new names for lowlands :D 13:47:00 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> hello Kenji 13:48:18 <OwenS> gleeb, heh. And they *finally* shipped my replacement HDD :P 13:48:27 <PublicServer> * SmatZ loves {ctrl+click on center_view_on_vehicle} 13:48:39 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> watching train go to drop and back 13:48:44 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> I don't 13:48:46 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> :) 13:49:07 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> I always get by 1 or more jams XD 13:49:32 <gleeb> OwenS: Huzzah! 13:51:38 <OwenS> Turned out I'd accidentally ordered an out of stock model -_- 13:51:47 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> HUB05 is awesomeness :-p 13:52:16 <gleeb> ¬_¬ 13:52:25 <gleeb> SmatZ: Screenie? :d 13:52:29 <gleeb> :3 * 13:52:33 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ has left the game (connection lost) 13:52:46 <SmatZ> wut 13:52:55 <KenjiE20> that was giant wasn't it? 13:53:25 <SmatZ> I switched resolution to 1600x1200 so it fits on the screen 13:53:30 <SmatZ> but it failed 13:53:44 <gleeb> haha 13:53:51 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ joined the game 13:55:21 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ has left the game (leaving) 13:55:44 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ joined the game 13:56:45 <SmatZ> gleeb: http://devs.openttd.org/~smatz/hub05.png 13:57:11 <SmatZ> parts of network are one big hub 13:57:17 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00016CD0: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00016CD0.png 13:57:50 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> like, HUB05+12+09 13:57:53 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> err 13:58:08 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> 01-5-12 13:58:09 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> 05+12+02+SLH12 13:59:51 <XeryusTC> slh 12? 14:00:07 <dihedral> could smatz not also write a patch that macks a 'screenshot' of the entire minimap? ^^ 14:00:16 <dihedral> *makes 14:00:25 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Sweets pickup need an improvement 14:00:27 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Badly 14:00:48 *** Tray has joined #openttdcoop 14:01:08 <SmatZ> dihedral: it's already implemented :) 14:01:10 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> I smell global warming 14:01:21 <SmatZ> but it will literaly kill your PC 14:01:23 <SmatZ> most likely 14:01:24 <SmatZ> :-p 14:01:28 <dihedral> why is that? 14:01:43 <dihedral> i did not mean the gian screen shot ^^ 14:01:47 <dihedral> *giant 14:01:48 <SmatZ> I did 14:01:56 <dihedral> i mean, the minimap :-P 14:02:06 <SmatZ> there's a patch for that :) 14:02:16 *** roboboy has joined #openttdcoop 14:03:19 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has left the game (leaving) 14:03:31 <SmatZ> hmm 14:03:40 <SmatZ> why I can't take zoomed-out giant screenshot 14:04:01 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> it crashes for me as well 14:04:06 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> :D 14:04:17 <XeryusTC> mrruben5: it doesn't crash, it just takes a long time 14:04:35 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yeah... Takes a couple of seconds 14:04:36 <mrruben5> hmm :) 14:04:40 <PublicServer> *** MrRuben has left the game (connection lost) 14:05:23 *** smoovi has joined #openttdcoop 14:05:53 <dihedral> 'seconds' ? 14:06:04 <dihedral> i once did a giant screen shot on a server 14:06:22 <dihedral> in those days where you deliberately had to set a res on dedicateded servers (i.e. 0,0) 14:09:30 <dihedral> was a 1.5GB file ^^ 14:09:35 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> :D 14:09:41 <dihedral> i crashed my workstation when trying to open it :-D 14:09:42 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> was it a BMP? 14:09:44 <dihedral> hihi 14:09:45 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> 1,5gb? :O Mine was 40MB PNG 14:10:18 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I guess it has alot to do with RAM 14:10:34 *** Icetray has joined #openttdcoop 14:11:28 *** Intexon has joined #openttdcoop 14:11:36 <mrruben5> lol screenshot of 150mb for me :) 14:12:01 <PublicServer> *** Intexon joined the game 14:12:08 <PublicServer> <Intexon> hi 14:12:19 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00038E96: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00038E96.png 14:12:25 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> hello Intexon 14:12:40 <PublicServer> <Intexon> ugh 14:12:48 <PublicServer> <Intexon> need to switch to opengfx 14:12:51 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> brb 14:12:52 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ has left the game (leaving) 14:12:53 <Ammler> btw. SmatZ, it might be easy for you :-) 14:12:53 <PublicServer> *** Intexon has left the game (leaving) 14:12:54 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 14:13:05 <Ammler> a console command to change zoom level 14:13:19 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Awh :( 14:13:31 <PublicServer> *** Intexon joined the game 14:13:38 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 14:17:33 *** Tray has quit IRC 14:19:07 <PublicServer> *** VictorOfSweden joined the game 14:19:30 *** Icetray has quit IRC 14:19:31 *** Yexo has quit IRC 14:19:47 *** Yexo has joined #openttdcoop 14:21:21 <OwenS> For those interested: Bigfix progsigs release out 14:21:53 <gleeb> progsigs seems interesting. 14:22:11 <PublicServer> *** MrRuben joined the game 14:22:23 <OwenS> Whoo, two patch downloads already 14:25:19 *** phatmatt has joined #openttdcoop 14:26:40 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I miss regular railroads :( 14:27:22 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001030C: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001030C.png 14:27:36 <nighthawk_c_m> what is bigfix progsis? 14:28:31 <PublicServer> *** VictorOfSweden has left the game (connection lost) 14:31:57 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ joined the game 14:32:45 <OwenS> nighthawk_c_m, a bugfix release of ProgSigs 14:33:24 <mrruben5> programmable signals? 14:35:55 <nighthawk_c_m> I whonder how those will influence the level of complexity a network can have. 14:39:31 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ has left the game (leaving) 14:42:24 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000170E4: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000170E4.png 14:43:28 *** Phazorx has joined #openttdcoop 14:43:28 *** Webster sets mode: +o Phazorx 14:45:37 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ joined the game 14:46:06 <PublicServer> *** Giddorah has left the game (connection lost) 14:50:48 <OwenS> mrruben5, nighthawk_c_m, http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=47690 14:50:50 <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums • View topic - ProgSigs - Programmable Signals patch (at www.tt-forums.net) 14:51:06 <mrruben5> Owens: yes, I googled :) 14:51:17 <mrruben5> would be nice to have a PS game with them turned on 14:51:32 <OwenS> Patches aren't allowed in PS games 14:52:35 <KenjiE20> despite the fact we tend to heavily patch both clients and servers :P 14:52:58 <V453000> @clcalc mono 305 14:52:58 <Webster> V453000: Required CL for monorail at 305km/h is 5 (8 half tiles) or TL 14:56:46 <XeryusTC> hmm 14:56:50 <XeryusTC> 8 half tiles != a corner 14:57:26 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00031E66: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00031E66.png 14:57:33 <KenjiE20> it might if you're doing weird wiggles 14:57:39 <nighthawk_c_m> @clcalc mono 600 14:57:39 <Webster> nighthawk_c_m: Required CL for monorail at 600km/h is 7 (13 half tiles) or TL 14:58:03 <KenjiE20> but you're right 8 isn't, but 8 IS the min needed for that speed 14:58:05 <nighthawk_c_m> whats the command for calcing bridges / tunnels? 14:58:21 <KenjiE20> try 'tunnels' 14:58:25 <mrruben5> I believe @tunnel? 14:58:30 <mrruben5> @tunnel 14:58:30 <Webster> mrruben5: (tunnel <trainlength> [<split>]) -- Returns minimum and maximum signal gap sizes for 2,3 and 4 linesplits with <trainlength>. If <spilt> is given it will return the the gap sizes for <split> (+/-) 1. 14:58:30 <XeryusTC> @gap 14:58:31 <Webster> XeryusTC: (gap <trainlength> [<split>]) -- Returns minimum and maximum signal gap sizes for 2,3 and 4 linesplits with <trainlength>. If <spilt> is given it will return the the gap sizes for <split> (+/-) 1. 14:58:55 <mrruben5> aka @tunnel is an alias for @gap 14:58:57 <KenjiE20> tunnel(s) gap(s) and I think something else too 14:59:08 <mrruben5> @bridge 14:59:10 <mrruben5> ? 14:59:14 <mrruben5> nope :) 14:59:14 <nighthawk_c_m> lol 14:59:17 <nighthawk_c_m> ^^ 14:59:18 <XeryusTC> KenjiE20: !gap? :P 14:59:21 <XeryusTC> !gap 14:59:21 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: !gap <trainlength> <gap>: Returns amount of tunnels/bridges needed. Formula: (<gap>+<trainlength>-2)/(<trainlength>+2) 14:59:33 <KenjiE20> that's not webster though is it? 14:59:47 <Absurd-Mind> !tunnel 6 14:59:47 <PublicServer> Absurd-Mind: !tunnel <trainlength> <gap>: Returns amount of tunnels/bridges needed. Formula: (<gap>+<trainlength>-2)/(<trainlength>+2) 14:59:51 <Absurd-Mind> !tunnel 6 2 14:59:51 <PublicServer> Absurd-Mind: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 6 and gap 2. 15:00:06 <Absurd-Mind> 6 = amount of wagons, not tiles, right? 15:00:09 <nighthawk_c_m> Is gap in this concern the tunnel length? 15:00:10 <XeryusTC> KenjiE20: true, but afaik those are the only two 15:00:22 <Absurd-Mind> !tunnel 8 2 15:00:22 <PublicServer> Absurd-Mind: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 8 and gap 2. 15:00:23 <XeryusTC> Absurd-Mind: gaps are always in tiles 15:00:24 <KenjiE20> │Channel Monitor 15:00:30 <XeryusTC> gap = amount of tiles without signals 15:00:30 <KenjiE20> grr 15:00:35 <KenjiE20> silly putty 15:00:38 <KenjiE20> tunnels = tunnel = gaps = split = splits = gap 15:00:43 <KenjiE20> ^ there we are 15:00:44 <nighthawk_c_m> so gap = tunnel/bridge length 15:00:58 <XeryusTC> yes 15:01:00 <XeryusTC> !split 15:01:02 <XeryusTC> @split 15:01:02 <Webster> XeryusTC: (split <trainlength> [<split>]) -- Returns minimum and maximum signal gap sizes for 2,3 and 4 linesplits with <trainlength>. If <spilt> is given it will return the the gap sizes for <split> (+/-) 1. 15:01:08 <KenjiE20> + pre-signals if applicatble 15:01:11 <mrruben5> trainlength is always tracklength * 2 if trainlength is an even number 15:01:27 <nighthawk_c_m> !tunnel 6 4 15:01:27 <PublicServer> nighthawk_c_m: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 6 and gap 4. 15:01:30 <KenjiE20> no 15:01:34 <XeryusTC> mrruben5: trainlength is in tiles 15:01:40 <mrruben5> really? 15:01:45 <XeryusTC> yes 15:01:56 <KenjiE20> and depot trainlegth still isn't "*tiles 15:01:57 <nighthawk_c_m> so is the trainlength in tiles or as the number shown behind the train when having it in a depot? 15:02:00 <KenjiE20> 2*tiles* 15:02:06 <KenjiE20> tiles 15:02:10 <KenjiE20> always tiles 15:02:26 <XeryusTC> TL is in tiles 15:02:30 <KenjiE20> the number in depot is halftiles rounded up for grfs not quite half a tile long 15:02:38 <XeryusTC> depot number is the amount of half tiles a train is long 15:02:52 <KenjiE20> think, well... every newgrf trainset ever 15:03:10 <mrruben5> tracklenght = ceil(trainlenght /2) then? 15:03:35 <KenjiE20> TL is in tiles <-----!! 15:03:41 <XeryusTC> trainlength = ceil (depotlength/2) 15:03:47 <nighthawk_c_m> !gap 3 12 15:03:47 <PublicServer> nighthawk_c_m: You need 3 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 3 and gap 12. 15:03:59 <XeryusTC> TL = trainlength = length of train in full tiles 15:04:01 <nighthawk_c_m> that can't be right 15:04:13 <planetmaker> that's exactly right 15:04:17 <KenjiE20> @gap 3 15:04:17 <Webster> KenjiE20: For Trainlength of 3: < 9 needs 2, 10 - 14 needs 3, 15 - 19 needs 4. 15:04:22 <mrruben5> ah, I thought TL meant track length. 15:04:27 <nighthawk_c_m> if I play with a TL of 3 I'd need more then 3 Bridges to keep the network run mooth 15:04:36 <KenjiE20> @tl 15:04:36 <Webster> tl: TrainLength. Indicating the amount of tiles a train occupies, see also: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/User:Tim/Tilelength 15:05:25 <nighthawk_c_m> hmm.. interesting 15:06:17 <Absurd-Mind> @split 3 15:06:18 <Webster> Absurd-Mind: For Trainlength of 3: < 9 needs 2, 10 - 14 needs 3, 15 - 19 needs 4. 15:09:31 <Absurd-Mind> !help 15:09:31 <PublicServer> Absurd-Mind: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands 15:10:41 <Absurd-Mind> !info 15:10:41 <PublicServer> Absurd-Mind: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Jamming United' Year Founded: 1950 Money: 25063281640 Loan: 0 Value: 25067342390 (T:1349, R:4, P:0, S:0) unprotected 15:10:54 <Ammler> that Tim article isn't true 15:11:07 <Ammler> else it wouldn't be in the userspace btw. :-) 15:11:18 <Ammler> 4 is better imo 15:12:03 <XeryusTC> but that's when only looking at jams, not running networks 15:12:07 <XeryusTC> which we usually have ;) 15:12:17 <nighthawk_c_m> Well his article focuse on the situation of a jam - there he is right as trains occupie the most spoace - what he did not talk is the running situation 15:12:28 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003730E: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0003730E.png 15:12:31 <nighthawk_c_m> TL 4 is better? 15:12:51 <nighthawk_c_m> i always thought 3 and 5 were the ones to aim for 15:13:17 <OwenS> Bigger TL is more efficient 15:13:27 *** roboboy has quit IRC 15:14:44 <nighthawk_c_m> depends on space available I guess due to CL length 15:22:07 *** roboboy has joined #openttdcoop 15:22:33 <nighthawk_c_m> Anyome have a rule of thumb on how to determin needed amount of plattforms per line at a goods drop? 15:23:00 <KenjiE20> is "enough" too vague? :P 15:23:11 <nighthawk_c_m> :-P 15:23:15 <gleeb> nighthawk_c_m: When you have queuing, you have too few. 15:23:16 <nighthawk_c_m> Yes, very vague 15:23:26 <nighthawk_c_m> *facepalm* 15:23:28 <KenjiE20> depends on so many things 15:23:49 <KenjiE20> tl, expected traffic, cargotype/newgrfs, etc. 15:24:07 <nighthawk_c_m> hmmm 15:24:43 <nighthawk_c_m> Hmm ok .. lets say ( plattforms per track with the option to expand into 16 Plattforms? 15:24:50 <nighthawk_c_m> ( = 8 15:25:38 <KenjiE20> wouldn't that be * not (, surely ( = 9 15:25:40 <KenjiE20> :P 15:25:59 <nighthawk_c_m> ^^ 15:26:05 <Ammler> 3 or 5 might be better for netowrks wich react as parking lot, but 4 or other even lengths are better fro flow 15:26:11 <Ammler> maybe it doesn't matter at all :-) 15:27:00 <nighthawk_c_m> Well, The ML is supposed to be LLLL10RRRR and go through the Main Station at a city to drop off goods 15:27:17 <nighthawk_c_m> Or at least have BBH's thet then lead into the ML 15:27:20 <V453000> parking lot ... 15:27:23 * V453000 is silent 15:27:30 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00038F38: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00038F38.png 15:27:36 <Ammler> yes, like "your" log game :-P 15:27:40 <Ammler> last* 15:27:45 <V453000> ;) 15:28:09 <nighthawk_c_m> the last one has some nice things - I liek the development throughout them ... 15:29:22 <V453000> @records 15:29:22 <Webster> #openttdcoop Records: Clients: 24 | Trains: 2000 (PSG#131) - 2522 (PZG#5) | Single cargo output: 100,983 (PSG#176) | World Pop: 3,075,319 (PSG#101) 15:29:30 <V453000> Should we count psg 180 into records? :) 15:29:56 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> what record? 15:30:26 <V453000> about 3000 trains? 15:30:31 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> nice :) 15:30:42 <V453000> about 700 were logic though :P 15:30:42 <KenjiE20> how many were moving? 15:30:52 <V453000> I will check it Kenji 15:31:04 <KenjiE20> could add one more, for SR trains 15:31:09 <KenjiE20> but then it gets messy 15:31:16 <KenjiE20> messier* 15:31:37 <V453000> 2200 were just wood trains 15:31:43 <V453000> many dummies, many logics 15:31:55 <V453000> but also some of the wood trains didnt move 15:32:01 <V453000> hard to count really 15:32:56 <V453000> ... PSG 131 had also some logic ... even though just a minor mart - the compressors 15:33:16 <KenjiE20> about what 8? 15:33:20 <V453000> yes :D 15:33:54 <nighthawk_c_m> Think its hardest to beat the Pop record 15:33:58 <KenjiE20> that was just a thing though, not a full blown SRNW 15:34:25 <V453000> yes 15:34:26 <V453000> I kno 15:36:22 <V453000> well 15:36:39 <V453000> whatever :) but 2200 were there for sure ... some are always stopped in stations :P 15:36:48 <V453000> here they waited in front of them 15:40:44 <KenjiE20> @records 15:40:44 <Webster> #openttdcoop Records: Clients: 24 | Trains: 2000 (PSG#131) - 2522 (PZG#5) - ( [3000 (PSG#180)] logic net)| Single cargo type output: 100,983 (PSG#176) | World Pop: 3,075,319 (PSG#101) 15:40:50 <KenjiE20> happy? 15:42:13 <V453000> very 15:42:20 <V453000> thanks :) 15:42:27 <SmatZ> !trains 1450 15:42:27 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ has set max_trains to 1450 15:42:32 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00036D34: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00036D34.png 15:42:35 <V453000> SmatZ: going nuts more and more? :P 15:43:51 <PublicServer> *** Amm1er joined the game 15:44:21 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> evil SmatZ deleted my only station :'-( 15:45:02 <Mazur> !password 15:45:02 <PublicServer> Mazur: dozing 15:45:34 *** thgergo has joined #openttdcoop 15:45:42 *** devilsadvocate has quit IRC 15:45:54 <PublicServer> *** Mazur joined the game 15:46:06 <Mazur> He did. 15:46:16 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> added !blocks 15:46:27 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> 2 trains don't fit there 15:47:48 <Mazur> The bastard. 15:51:35 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> Sweets drop does jam and you rise the limit? 15:51:53 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> it does? 15:51:56 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> oh THAT jam 15:52:18 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> yeah, I am adding toys trains only 15:52:33 <SmatZ> !trains 1350 15:52:33 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ has set max_trains to 1350 15:52:35 <PublicServer> *** Amm1er has left the game (leaving) 15:52:44 <XeryusTC> SmatZ: toy drop is on the brink of breakdown too 15:52:44 <SmatZ> Ammler: what your station? 15:53:01 <gr00vy> !password 15:53:01 <PublicServer> gr00vy: dozing 15:53:03 <Ammler> SmatZ: it isn't anymore :-P 15:53:11 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> how do you know it was me? 15:53:14 <Ammler> it _was_ my station :-D 15:53:22 <Ammler> because you signed it 15:53:27 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> damn 15:53:28 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> :D 15:53:48 <Ammler> my only constribution to this game :'-( 15:53:55 <Ammler> -s 15:53:55 <PublicServer> *** gr00vaLisTic joined the game 15:53:59 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hiho 15:54:00 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> where was that station? 15:54:03 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> hello gr00vaLisTic 15:54:11 <XeryusTC> Ammler: hopefully it will stay as that :P 15:54:28 <XeryusTC> one deleted station is more than enough from you :P 15:54:31 <Ammler> XeryusTC: yeah, SmatZ teached me to keep my finger out 15:54:37 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> :( 15:54:44 <PublicServer> * SmatZ bites Ammler 15:55:29 <Ammler> SmatZ: I made the station but the the vehicle limit was reached, so I wasn't able to add trains for 15:55:37 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> oh 15:55:40 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> THAT station! 15:55:45 <Ammler> :-D 15:55:51 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> that with several CL2 curves 15:55:56 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> one platform 15:56:05 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> and long stationwalk 15:56:07 <XeryusTC> zomfg 15:56:13 <Ammler> well, I thought, I improve it with traffic 15:56:15 <XeryusTC> why did we ever member Ammler? :( 15:56:22 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> Ammler <3 15:56:35 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> CL1 even 15:57:01 <Ammler> XeryusTC: didn't you suggest me? 15:57:26 <XeryusTC> i regret that now 15:57:34 <Ammler> :-) 15:57:53 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> so... 15:58:06 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> who wants to upgrade sweets drop 15:58:10 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> that southern part 15:58:13 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game 15:58:15 <XeryusTC> I'm bored of my balls 15:58:23 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> SmatZ: you? 15:58:30 <Ammler> I would but your high limit doesn't allow me connected that long 15:58:39 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> I don't want to play alobe :~ 15:58:51 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> alone 15:58:58 <Ammler> maybe the stuck trains patch 15:59:15 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> stuck trains patch? 15:59:20 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> the SRO pickup is odd 15:59:24 <Ammler> the patch from eddi 15:59:30 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> production is now 1872/1071/1360 15:59:56 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> while usually the first was the lowest and one of the latter two was 2200+ while the other was ~800 :o 15:59:57 <Ammler> http://dev.openttdcoop.org:81/projects/clientpatches/wiki#Stuck-Trains 16:00:14 <XeryusTC> it works on the current revision? 16:00:23 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> SmatZ: which part should be changed @ Sweets Drop? 16:00:36 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ah 16:00:41 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> i think i found it :D 16:01:07 <Ammler> XeryusTC: yes, it needed an update 16:01:43 *** roboboy has quit IRC 16:01:52 <XeryusTC> needed or needs? 16:02:33 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> should i try to fix the station entrace sweets drop south? 16:02:40 *** mixrin has quit IRC 16:03:26 <XeryusTC> dinner tiems 16:05:47 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop 16:05:47 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 16:07:04 <Ammler> I neeeded an update of stuck trains to get it running with recent nightlies 16:12:22 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> who is working at sweets drop south? 16:12:34 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002902B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002902B.png 16:12:38 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> I am trying to clear the space 16:12:44 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> so you have space to build 16:12:52 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ok great 16:13:24 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> what you think...half station for each track or full choice? 16:13:49 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> I think full choice is not needed 16:13:58 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> there can be done balancer before the station if needed 16:14:09 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> do we need this tunnel under the station? 16:14:22 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> so we could enlarge it 16:14:47 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> you can move the station two tiles to the south 16:14:53 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> so the line can be placed there 16:15:56 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> lol cant build station...damn town 16:15:57 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> :D 16:16:14 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> don't build new station 16:16:20 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> join it to current 16:16:26 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> thats what i wanted to do 16:16:29 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> can place building :) 16:16:37 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> sttrange 16:16:43 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> now 16:16:46 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> needed some trees :) 16:18:16 <ODM> hey guys 16:18:18 <ODM> hows the game? 16:18:22 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> hello ODM 16:18:23 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> great 16:18:29 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> jammed as usual 16:19:33 <ODM> !trains 16:19:33 <PublicServer> ODM: !trains <integer>: set value of max_trains 16:19:40 <ODM> ugh !rcon set max_trains 16:19:48 <ODM> !rcon set max_trains 16:19:48 <PublicServer> ODM: Current value for 'max_trains' is: '1350' (min: 0, max: 5000) 16:19:58 <ODM> really, no more trains but now its jammed?:P 16:20:25 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> gr00vaLisTic: is rebuilding south SWEET DROP 16:20:34 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> so all trains are taking other parts of the drop 16:20:36 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> => jams 16:20:36 <gleeb> !dl 16:20:36 <PublicServer> gleeb: !dl autostart|autottd|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x 16:20:38 <ODM> ah that explains 16:20:41 <ODM> but thats a valid reason 16:20:50 <gleeb> !dl lin 16:20:50 <PublicServer> gleeb: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19611/openttd-trunk-r19611-linux-generic-i686.tar.bz2 16:20:55 <gleeb> ty, PublicServer. 16:20:57 <ODM> !password 16:20:57 <PublicServer> ODM: culled 16:21:11 <PublicServer> *** 0DM joined the game 16:21:27 <PublicServer> <0DM> wow thats a massive terminus^^ 16:21:56 <PublicServer> <0DM> gl^^ 16:21:58 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hi, ODM. 16:22:02 <PublicServer> <0DM> heya 16:22:39 <PublicServer> <Mazur> I is watching. 16:22:39 <XeryusTC> back 16:22:49 <PublicServer> <0DM> i is not building:p 16:22:52 <PublicServer> <0DM> wb mate 16:23:18 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> ty 16:25:08 *** NoobCp has joined #openttdcoop 16:25:23 *** jondisti has joined #openttdcoop 16:26:15 <jondisti> !password 16:26:16 <PublicServer> jondisti: culled 16:27:23 <PublicServer> *** jond1sti joined the game 16:27:36 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00029427: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00029427.png 16:27:41 *** devilsadvocate has joined #openttdcoop 16:28:17 <Ammler> ps is reaching server limits :-) 16:28:28 <Ammler> 50% 16:28:31 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> :) 16:28:33 <PublicServer> *** jond1sti has joined spectators 16:28:54 <Ammler> and stable is at 30% 16:29:19 <Ammler> it has a load avg. > 3 16:30:52 <Ammler> ps on 60% 16:31:02 <Ammler> so together they use 100% 16:31:19 <planetmaker> he? 16:31:19 <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (connection lost) 16:31:22 <Ammler> almost :-P 16:31:26 <Ammler> 80% 16:31:27 <planetmaker> top displayes usage for each core 16:31:43 <planetmaker> so 30% means 30% of the core it runs on. 16:31:47 <Ammler> hmm, it is single core, isn't? 16:31:48 <dihedral> it's dual core ^^ 16:31:55 <planetmaker> n*100% is max for a n core chip 16:32:00 <dihedral> ;-) 16:32:00 <planetmaker> and yes, it's dual core 16:32:01 <dihedral> yarp 16:32:02 <Ammler> ah, indeed, 2 cores :-P 16:32:06 <planetmaker> C2D 6600 16:32:36 <dihedral> my new vm will be on a dual quad core system 16:32:43 <planetmaker> :-D 16:32:44 <dihedral> as far as i know i get 4 cores :-P 16:32:55 <dihedral> already signed the contract :-P 16:32:57 <Ammler> dihedral: I am looking forward for your review 16:33:05 <dihedral> yes me too 16:33:19 * planetmaker , too :-) 16:33:24 <dihedral> :P 16:33:26 <Mazur> dual quad, nice. 16:33:33 <dihedral> 26 eur / month aint that bad for what it looks like 16:33:43 <dihedral> Mazur, yes, but saadly not a dual i7 system 16:33:49 <dihedral> dual nehalem is whopping 16:33:49 <Ammler> yeah, it looks damn cheap 16:34:02 <dihedral> they aparently put max 10 vm's on one host 16:34:03 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> can trains from sweets drop go north from every line? 16:34:20 *** NoobCp has left #openttdcoop 16:34:33 <PublicServer> <0DM> yes 16:34:58 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> why did i just see 671 use slh7 to turna round then? 16:34:59 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> atrain arrived at southern part...lol 16:35:07 <Ammler> also the min ram you get, 3 GB is awesome 16:35:13 <PublicServer> <0DM> mightve been busy:P 16:35:16 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> surprisingly, network is not THAT jammed 16:35:23 *** phatmatt has quit IRC 16:35:35 <Ammler> traffic limit is unreachable 16:35:54 <Ammler> I wonder, how they can be that cheap... 16:35:54 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> ooch 16:36:23 <Ammler> somewhere needs to be a heck 16:36:24 <PublicServer> <0DM> no service or uptime guarantees at all? 16:37:00 <PublicServer> *** 0DM has left the game (leaving) 16:37:05 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> fixed a join before split at sweets drop :P 16:37:16 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i wish we had tab complete for stations 16:37:23 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i need to complete stations more often than towns 16:37:58 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hub 8 jams 16:38:01 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> rom the west 16:38:18 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> east you mean? 16:38:22 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> I just fixed it 16:38:28 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yes, i meant that 16:38:30 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> it could solve itself 16:38:40 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> the problem is only 1 lane to south 16:38:53 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> it's not that much used under normal conditions 16:39:02 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> but now, all the sweets traffic goes there 16:39:07 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, still rebuilding then? 16:39:13 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> yes 16:39:43 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> my girlfriend has me distracted :D 16:39:48 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> :-x 16:39:56 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> xD 16:40:01 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> you have computer in kitchen? 16:40:19 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> :D 16:40:30 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hrhr,no, but chain is long enough to reach it :) 16:40:31 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> brb 16:40:34 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ has left the game (leaving) 16:40:34 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> SmatZ is made of win :D 16:40:36 <SmatZ> :-D 16:41:00 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 16:41:47 <ODM> hmm 16:41:58 <ODM> netherlands is a bit like this ottd game 16:42:00 <ODM> no planes. 16:42:01 <pugi> hmm, still no new map? 16:42:17 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> odm: the entirety of europe is atm ;) 16:42:38 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00023829: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00023829.png 16:42:48 <ODM> i thought only some parts 16:43:26 <pugi> !password 16:43:26 <PublicServer> pugi: easies 16:43:32 <pugi> no, europe wide 16:43:39 <ODM> fancy 16:43:47 <PublicServer> *** PUGl joined the game 16:43:53 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> JamieLei is stranded in Sweden :( 16:43:53 <ODM> it dosent happen often that all planes are grounded 16:43:58 <ODM> i bet some runways are filled up 16:44:06 <ODM> who? 16:44:51 <PublicServer> * PUGl votes for next map 16:45:04 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> fortunately this isn't a democracy 16:45:11 <PublicServer> <PUGl> :/ 16:45:23 <ODM> actually it is, just not for non-members:P 16:45:51 <PublicServer> <PUGl> i think i am a member :D 16:45:54 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> we almost never vote about anything, we sometimes ask for a second opinion :P 16:46:08 <ODM> there will be a new game sometime, but if people are still having fun with this theres not much need t change 16:46:13 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v ODM 16:46:13 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Phazorx 16:46:13 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v OwenS 16:46:13 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v KenjiE20 16:46:13 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v ^Spike^ 16:46:13 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v planetmaker 16:46:13 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v XeryusTC 16:46:13 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v SmatZ 16:46:13 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tneo 16:46:13 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Osai 16:46:13 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Kommer 16:46:13 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Webster 16:46:13 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Ammler 16:46:13 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v V453000 16:46:13 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v hylje 16:46:17 <ODM> boom 16:46:36 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> did someone call for an explosion? 16:46:47 <ODM> es 16:46:48 <ODM> yes 16:47:08 <KenjiE20> okay, who was being inappropriate with chanserv again? :P 16:47:21 <XeryusTC> oh, it was an irc boom :o 16:47:31 * XeryusTC cuddles chanserv 16:48:04 <KenjiE20> aha 16:48:09 * KenjiE20 points accusingly 16:48:20 * pugi slaps ChanServ 16:48:26 <PublicServer> *** Intexon has left the game (connection lost) 16:48:28 <XeryusTC> i just thanked it for giving me a voice 16:48:47 <PublicServer> *** jond1sti has left the game (leaving) 16:51:14 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> candy mountain has been refilled 16:51:30 *** phatmatt has joined #openttdcoop 16:51:35 <phatmatt> !password 16:51:35 <PublicServer> phatmatt: easies 16:51:49 <PublicServer> *** phatmatt joined the game 16:53:08 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh great 16:53:08 <PublicServer> *** PUGl has left the game (connection lost) 16:53:19 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> see train 414 16:53:23 <pugi> okay... i'm out until finally a new map is started 16:53:29 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it wants to join a full line because it needs to go to a station 16:53:41 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and thus blocking that entire northern line again 16:53:45 <planetmaker> !info 16:53:45 <PublicServer> planetmaker: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Jamming United' Year Founded: 1950 Money: 25964611519 Loan: 0 Value: 25970081482 (T:1361, R:4, P:0, S:0) unprotected 16:53:49 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> just after i made a choice to unjam it xD 16:53:53 <planetmaker> uh... seems like I'm out, too ;-) 16:54:03 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> (fixed already btw) 16:57:34 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> zomfg 16:57:41 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002A02A: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002A02A.png 16:59:36 *** nighthawk_c_m has quit IRC 17:00:13 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i've reconnected the south ML for a part 17:00:32 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> to allow trains to go to Nudfield :o 17:01:04 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> brb 17:04:25 *** Polygon has joined #openttdcoop 17:08:33 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has left the game (connection lost) 17:12:43 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002A032: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002A032.png 17:14:39 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> why are trains entering now? 17:15:16 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 17:18:12 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> terminus XD 17:18:57 <PublicServer> *** phatmatt has left the game (connection lost) 17:21:02 <PublicServer> *** sonic joined the game 17:23:37 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ok 17:23:42 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> think i've finished 17:24:15 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> hmm 17:24:27 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> is it me or is that a new toy drop? 17:25:15 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ joined the game 17:25:18 *** jondisti has quit IRC 17:26:58 <PublicServer> *** sonic has left the game (connection lost) 17:27:45 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000230DC: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000230DC.png 17:31:16 <pugi> wow 17:31:25 <pugi> that looks stupid with trees :D 17:33:40 <theholyduck> !password 17:33:40 <PublicServer> theholyduck: beagle 17:33:48 <PublicServer> *** theholyduck joined the game 17:34:04 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> hmm, toyland IS alot more pleasing with opengfx 17:34:11 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> because my eyes arent bleeding anymore 17:34:30 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> :) 17:34:35 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> my biggest problem with the opengfx set, is the menu icons, that all look horribly wrong 17:34:48 <PublicServer> *** MrRuben has left the game (connection lost) 17:34:50 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i'd love to do opengfx toyland replacement terrain 17:34:54 <PublicServer> *** MrRuben has left the game (leaving) 17:35:00 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> with old style menu icons 17:35:23 <PublicServer> *** MrRuben joined the game 17:35:40 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> lol original graphics look indeed very crap 17:35:43 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> oh noes, somebody removed the high speed express 17:35:55 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> also, loljam 17:36:04 <PublicServer> * MrRuben views candy mountain in original GRF 17:36:19 <Ammler> [19:34] <PublicServer> <theholyduck> my biggest problem with the opengfx set, is the menu icons, that all look horribly wrong <-- same here 17:36:30 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> take a look at 17:36:31 <Ammler> but now it is the opposite, when I use ttd 17:36:43 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> and then see the lenght of the jam it causes 17:36:55 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> actually I'm quite used to the menu icons in OGRF 17:37:03 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> OFX* 17:37:10 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> OGFX* 17:37:15 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> godver :P 17:37:23 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> looka t that jam? 17:37:24 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> its literally. 17:37:31 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> like half the damn map 17:37:34 <Ammler> ogfx isn't wrong, just needs a bit time to get familiar 17:37:50 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> guise 17:37:53 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> we need some fixing 17:37:57 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> wait 17:38:04 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> i had to change something at sweets drop 17:38:11 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> had a block for a short while 17:38:17 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> well, sweets drop isnt causing this 17:38:21 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> a prio that never merges is 17:38:31 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ok 17:38:32 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> causing trains 80 miles back to back up 17:38:48 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> just south of cola 17:39:14 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> the jam is clearing up, a BIT 17:39:18 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> but its still pretty large 17:39:41 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> wee, somebody is trying to fix this injustice 17:40:13 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> hmm, so back when we had 1k trains, we earned about 140million a year 17:40:29 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> now with 1361, we earn 168 17:40:36 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i dont sense linear growth 17:40:47 <PublicServer> * theholyduck blams jams 17:41:00 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hm? 17:41:03 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> ?? we are earning 337m a year 17:41:04 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> why 168? 17:41:14 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> mrn not in gbp 17:41:24 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> use euro's! :P 17:41:32 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> dont make me use NOK's 17:41:51 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> my point was, incomes has not gone up in proportion with number of trains 17:41:57 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> right back to OGFX 17:42:02 <PublicServer> *** MrRuben has left the game (leaving) 17:42:14 *** Mazur has left #openttdcoop 17:42:27 <PublicServer> *** MrRuben joined the game 17:42:47 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000DADB: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000DADB.png 17:45:33 <PublicServer> *** MrRuben has left the game (leaving) 17:46:07 *** mrruben5 has quit IRC 17:46:15 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 17:46:37 *** Doorslammer has quit IRC 17:49:18 *** Doorslammer has joined #openttdcoop 17:50:39 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> ooops :P 17:50:42 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> lol :D 17:55:41 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> so, when are we going to switch to a hopefully more aestetically pleasing psg 182? :P 17:55:49 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> :D 17:55:50 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> when we manage to make this stop jamming? 17:56:05 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> yeah thats what i suppose 17:56:34 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> or do you want to have jammy savegame archived? 17:56:47 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> well, the problem lately has been prio/merge related jams 17:57:01 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> like in hub11 17:57:12 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> well, removing the jams from this game seems impossibly :p 17:57:17 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> you kill one, and 4 more pops up 17:57:24 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hehe yeah 17:57:45 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> need bigger MLs everywhere hrhr ;P 17:57:49 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002902B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002902B.png 17:57:51 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> and parts of the network is just to congested 17:58:04 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> yeah, we needs ome LLLL_RRRR in places 17:58:05 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> almost 17:58:29 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> somehow it is funny to see...especially in overview, when you don't notice the jams 17:58:32 <pugi> hey, is there a way to see the server settings or what grfs are used if i want to play for myself a game with the commonly used openttdcoop settings? :D 17:59:17 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> when clicking the multiplayer button in main menu and selecting the ottdcoop server in the list 17:59:22 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> you should see a newgrf button 17:59:28 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> well this game doesnt have any 17:59:33 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> i think there you should see what grf's are active 17:59:42 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> seeing as its toyland 17:59:57 <pugi> hm 18:07:37 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop 18:08:15 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 18:10:21 *** xpac has joined #openttdcoop 18:10:44 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop 18:12:03 *** xpac has quit IRC 18:12:48 *** mixrin has joined #openttdcoop 18:12:52 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00028639: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00028639.png 18:27:54 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002882C: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002882C.png 18:28:00 *** phatmatt has quit IRC 18:42:56 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002A632: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002A632.png 18:45:18 <PublicServer> *** gr00vaLisTic has left the game (leaving) 18:46:46 <PublicServer> *** VictorOfSweden joined the game 18:47:23 <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> hi 18:47:30 <PublicServer> *** VictorOfSweden has joined company #1 18:49:07 <theholyduck> hmm, how could you join without doing the whole !password thing? 18:49:23 <KenjiE20> magic 18:49:49 <VictorOfSweden> yes, *magic* 18:49:53 <VictorOfSweden> irc magic 18:49:57 <theholyduck> pm magic! 18:50:01 *** KyleS1 has joined #openttdcoop 18:50:03 <theholyduck> i guess 18:50:09 <KyleS1> !password 18:50:09 <PublicServer> KyleS1: buzzes 18:50:14 <theholyduck> yeah, pm works 18:50:22 <theholyduck> /msg rather :p 18:50:27 <theholyduck> i wonder if it responds to /notice 18:50:28 * planetmaker knows another way, but keeps rather silent 18:50:44 <PublicServer> *** KyleS joined the game 18:50:44 <theholyduck> does not ;( 18:50:59 <planetmaker> also you remind us that we should disable the query for passwords via private message. 18:51:07 <planetmaker> :-) 18:51:24 <theholyduck> you should but you havent 18:51:36 <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> hm.. 18:51:49 <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> accidental crash 18:52:27 * planetmaker feels unfortunately reminded of some other *duck* person who was once around 18:52:37 * planetmaker also wonders whether you're the same ;-) 18:57:27 <Kommer> hey all 18:57:29 *** A3aan has joined #openttdcoop 18:57:30 <Kommer> good evening 18:57:33 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> hello Kommer 18:57:43 <planetmaker> good day Kommer 18:57:58 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002CC34: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002CC34.png 18:58:03 <planetmaker> and SmatZ , too :-) 18:58:21 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> hello planetmaker :) 18:58:30 <A3aan> good evening :-) 18:58:39 <A3aan> havent been around in a while 18:58:41 <planetmaker> hello A3aan 18:58:47 <planetmaker> true that ;-) 18:59:07 <A3aan> :-) 18:59:32 <A3aan> just figured there was a 1.0 release of openttd lol 18:59:57 *** Pe1erT has joined #openttdcoop 19:00:49 *** Pe1erT has quit IRC 19:01:49 <A3aan> !players 19:01:50 <PublicServer> A3aan: Client 533 (Orange) is theholyduck, in company 1 (Jamming United) 19:01:50 <PublicServer> A3aan: Client 539 (Orange) is VictorOfSweden, in company 1 (Jamming United) 19:01:50 <PublicServer> A3aan: Client 529 (Orange) is SmatZ, in company 1 (Jamming United) 19:01:51 <PublicServer> A3aan: Client 541 (Orange) is KyleS, in company 1 (Jamming United) 19:02:06 <Ammler> welcome back A3aan :-) 19:02:13 <A3aan> ty :-) 19:02:22 <A3aan> i see a lot of new names lol 19:03:37 <A3aan> !password 19:03:38 <PublicServer> A3aan: gnomes 19:03:47 <PublicServer> *** A3aan joined the game 19:04:57 <PublicServer> *** A3aan has left the game (connection lost) 19:05:03 <planetmaker> :-D 19:05:05 <planetmaker> !info 19:05:05 <PublicServer> planetmaker: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Jamming United' Year Founded: 1950 Money: 27192914017 Loan: 0 Value: 27197405073 (T:1361, R:4, P:0, S:0) unprotected 19:05:07 <Ammler> havy game... 19:05:12 <planetmaker> ^ quite advanced game, yes 19:05:37 <PublicServer> *** VictorOfSweden has joined spectators 19:05:40 <A3aan> not even playable for me.. lags like hell :-( 19:06:30 <Ammler> @stage bring it to a end 19:06:31 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #181 (r19611) | STAGE: bring it to a end | http://openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart & !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | Welcome to the depths of insanity" 19:06:41 <PublicServer> *** VictorOfSweden has left the game (leaving) 19:07:01 <Ammler> !tweet Please help to finalize our biggest Toyland game ever. 19:07:04 <PublicServer> Ammler: Tweet sent: http://twitter.com/openttdcoop 19:08:26 <A3aan> lol, openttdcoop also on twitter?? 19:10:57 <planetmaker> yup 19:13:01 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003911C: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0003911C.png 19:16:54 *** avdg1 has joined #openttdcoop 19:16:57 <avdg1> hey 19:17:00 *** avdg1 is now known as avdg 19:17:26 <avdg> !players 19:17:28 <PublicServer> avdg: Client 533 (Orange) is theholyduck, in company 1 (Jamming United) 19:17:28 <PublicServer> avdg: Client 529 (Orange) is SmatZ, in company 1 (Jamming United) 19:17:28 <PublicServer> avdg: Client 541 (Orange) is KyleS, in company 1 (Jamming United) 19:17:41 <Kommer> !password 19:17:42 <PublicServer> Kommer: ruffed 19:17:48 <PublicServer> *** Kommer joined the game 19:18:02 <PublicServer> <Kommer> wow. BiG jam 19:18:53 <avdg> are the trains making a jam party? 19:18:57 <PublicServer> <Kommer> yes 19:19:12 <avdg> srr, I can't go online atm :) 19:22:12 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 19:23:21 <PublicServer> *** Intexon joined the game 19:23:22 *** avdg has quit IRC 19:23:33 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 19:23:41 <PublicServer> <Kommer> will be hard to fix it all 19:23:46 <PublicServer> <Kommer> almost the whole network IMHO 19:23:49 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> what is broken? 19:24:03 <PublicServer> <Kommer> parts of the network are jammes 19:24:04 <PublicServer> <Kommer> jammed 19:24:12 <PublicServer> <Kommer> but the jam moves from one part to another one 19:24:28 <PublicServer> <Kommer> but it looks now better 19:24:54 <PublicServer> <KyleS> zz 19:24:56 <PublicServer> <KyleS> crash 19:25:01 <PublicServer> <KyleS> :( 19:25:53 <PublicServer> *** Intexon has left the game (leaving) 19:25:55 *** Doorslammer has quit IRC 19:26:09 <planetmaker> <PublicServer> <Kommer> but it looks now better 19:26:09 <planetmaker> <PublicServer> <KyleS> crash <-- hehe. Not to be read out-of-context 19:26:31 <PublicServer> <Kommer> lol 19:26:47 <KyleS1> lol 19:27:24 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game 19:28:03 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00016729: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00016729.png 19:38:00 *** mib_km08uc has joined #openttdcoop 19:40:29 *** Dred_furst has joined #openttdcoop 19:43:05 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001219E: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001219E.png 19:43:19 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop 19:48:49 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> can we post-humously label this PSG-181-jam? 19:48:55 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> or something? 19:48:56 <PublicServer> <Kommer> nah :) 19:49:07 <PublicServer> <Kommer> am working hard to remove jams :) 19:52:38 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> :o 1278000 litres of plastic 19:52:39 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> :P 19:52:48 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> thats a nice number 19:53:19 <KenjiE20> New Game type, "Make everynumber possible 453000" 19:53:30 <PublicServer> <Kommer> ahh, cola is removed 19:53:31 <KenjiE20> :P 19:53:35 <PublicServer> <Kommer> thats why I see those jams :) 19:53:35 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> you know, these jams are sometimes so long 19:53:42 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> its hard to see where they come from 19:54:32 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> take a look at !JAM 19:54:39 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> and how far back it goes 19:55:04 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> /slap 19:55:07 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> stupid me 19:55:24 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> caused by a train waiting infinitly for free path 19:55:28 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> need help finding out why 19:55:35 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> at !WHY? 19:55:39 <OwenS> Incidentally, whos plan is being played in this game? 19:55:47 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> hmm 19:55:48 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> rather 19:55:54 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> why do trains waiting all the way up there 19:55:58 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> cause the hub to ham shut? 19:56:06 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> we need some extra line up there 19:56:09 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> or something 19:56:31 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> ... 19:56:38 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> this jam is jammiing itself 19:56:39 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> ... 19:56:45 <KyleS1> lol 19:56:48 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> seriously 19:56:49 <KyleS1> its jams all the way down 19:56:52 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i traced it all the way around 19:56:59 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> the 1 cola drop thingy 19:57:01 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> is jammed 19:57:06 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> because the 1 cola drop thingy is jammed 19:57:08 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> going all the way round 19:57:20 <KyleS1> OwenS: I think it is ODM's plan 19:57:27 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> a jam jamming itself? 19:57:43 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> now, if the new cola station is made 19:57:46 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> the jam might clear up 19:57:50 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> maybe 19:58:06 <OwenS> Whoo, combo breaker :D 19:58:07 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000DAA8: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000DAA8.png 19:58:38 <PublicServer> <Kommer> err. everything is jammed due to cola 19:58:39 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> STOP DELETING THE ENTRY to the gigang huge cola station, tis causing gigant jamaritigs 19:58:44 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> kommer yes 19:58:52 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> the main cola drop is gone, so cola is jamming cola 19:58:56 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> jamming everything 19:59:24 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> its infact, one of the largest jams i've seen in my life 19:59:35 <PublicServer> <Kommer> nah, its not the complete network :D 19:59:58 <KyleS1> lol 20:00:03 <KyleS1> has that happened before? :o 20:00:27 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> now that new cola is done, lets hope it all clears up 20:00:52 <Hirundo> It is a known scientific fact that cola causes blocked arteries ;) 20:01:10 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> by god i think it worked 20:01:21 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> appart from cola/bubble drop entry being sloow 20:01:22 <PublicServer> <KyleS> by Zues! 20:01:28 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> or atleast, overloaded 20:01:56 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> ... 20:01:57 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> CRASH 20:01:58 <PublicServer> <Kommer> oohh noooo 20:01:59 <PublicServer> <Kommer> ... 20:02:12 <PublicServer> <Kommer> (&*@ 20:02:15 <PublicServer> <Kommer> .. 20:02:47 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> so, the biggest problem with the new cola station, seems to be exit 20:02:54 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> atleast the exit is jammed shut a bit 20:02:54 <PublicServer> <Kommer> yes 20:03:00 <PublicServer> <Kommer> 4 entry lines, 2 exit 20:03:18 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> use the power of magic to fix it! 20:03:22 <PublicServer> *** KyleS has joined spectators 20:03:44 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> those are rather two entries 20:03:57 <PublicServer> <Kommer> hmm you are correct 20:04:11 *** mib_km08uc has quit IRC 20:04:15 <PublicServer> <Kommer> :) 20:04:25 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> it still needs a better exit system 20:04:26 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> 12 platforms is fine for 2 lines :) 20:04:31 <PublicServer> <Kommer> yepp 20:04:32 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> the current one is too complex and jams like a mofo 20:04:43 <PublicServer> <Kommer> no jams yet 20:04:45 <PublicServer> <Kommer> just see what it does 20:04:49 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> well it did jam earlier 20:04:55 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> and quite badly aswell 20:05:18 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> lets see how well it works once we get all exits going 20:05:19 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> err 20:05:20 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> entries 20:05:26 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> like now :P 20:05:55 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i think the left side is a bit overkill 20:05:59 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> compared to traffic on it 20:06:08 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> and the right side is a bit underkill. compared 20:06:26 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> as you undoubtetly can see 20:06:53 <PublicServer> <Kommer> gtg sry 20:07:19 <PublicServer> *** Kommer has left the game (connection lost) 20:07:46 *** smoovi has quit IRC 20:09:33 <Ammler> Kommer did hear my call for finalize help? 20:10:18 <theholyduck> soo, our income dropped from 184 to 59 from 2 years ago to last year 20:10:26 <theholyduck> i'm guessing due to jams :P 20:10:32 <theholyduck> *159 20:11:47 *** Mucht has joined #openttdcoop 20:11:47 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Mucht 20:11:59 <PublicServer> *** KyleS has joined company #1 20:13:09 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000D89E: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000D89E.png 20:13:33 *** heffer has joined #openttdcoop 20:14:49 <avdg> ooo long bridges 20:17:49 *** Zulan has joined #openttdcoop 20:17:54 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> theholyduck: can you do the exit? 20:18:09 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i can try atleast :P 20:18:13 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> thanks :) 20:18:33 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has left the game (connection lost) 20:20:31 *** Intexon has quit IRC 20:23:39 *** Dred_furst has quit IRC 20:24:00 *** Dred_furst has joined #openttdcoop 20:24:41 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> KyleS: that is only temporary track anyway 20:24:57 <KyleS1> ah, ok 20:25:03 <KyleS1> i just saw long bridges and i was like ! 20:25:06 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> but please fix it :-p 20:25:32 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> :) 20:26:10 <PublicServer> <KyleS> now it is synced as well :D 20:26:17 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> nice ;) 20:27:13 *** damalix has joined #openttdcoop 20:28:12 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000CE89: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000CE89.png 20:34:50 <PublicServer> *** KyleS has left the game (connection lost) 20:35:16 *** damalix has quit IRC 20:35:48 *** damalix has joined #openttdcoop 20:36:23 <PeterT> Ammler: new south park last night :-) 20:39:12 *** Vypus has joined #openttdcoop 20:40:18 <avdg> !players 20:40:19 <PublicServer> avdg: Client 533 (Orange) is theholyduck, in company 1 (Jamming United) 20:40:19 <PublicServer> avdg: Client 529 (Orange) is SmatZ, in company 1 (Jamming United) 20:40:26 <Vypus> !password 20:40:27 <PublicServer> Vypus: exhort 20:40:50 <PublicServer> *** Vypus joined the game 20:40:58 <PublicServer> *** Giddorah joined the game 20:41:09 <PublicServer> <Vypus> hi 20:41:15 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> hello Vypus 20:41:47 <Giddorah> Aight... Now... Does anyone have time and energy to explain to me how you can get rid of the password-requirement? 20:41:56 <Giddorah> (3rd day in a row I ask) :P 20:42:49 <Ammler> !genkey Giddorah 20:42:50 <PublicServer> Ammler: Key sent to Giddorah 20:43:02 <Giddorah> And what do I do with that? 20:43:14 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000D896: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000D896.png 20:43:19 <avdg> !password 20:43:19 <PublicServer> avdg: timber 20:43:25 <Ammler> add that to http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/ 20:43:33 <PublicServer> *** avdg joined the game 20:43:51 *** damalix has quit IRC 20:43:56 <PublicServer> <avdg> woooooow 20:44:03 <Giddorah> Huh? How? In the server-field? 20:44:20 <PeterT> !genkey 20:44:20 <PublicServer> PeterT: you must be channel op to use !genkey 20:44:22 <Ammler> not in openttd :-) 20:44:26 <PublicServer> <avdg> heuge transformation at the bear drop 20:44:36 <PublicServer> <avdg> uh pickup 20:44:46 <PeterT> http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/keys/the.key.you.got.here 20:44:51 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> huh? 20:44:56 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> nobodys touched pickup in ages 20:45:00 <Ammler> you could use ottdau or autostart for example 20:45:18 <Giddorah> !dl autostart 20:45:19 <PublicServer> Giddorah: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Autostart 20:45:20 <PublicServer> <avdg> well, then I didn't notic it before 20:45:39 <Giddorah> !dl ottdau 20:45:39 <PublicServer> Giddorah: unknown option "ottdau" 20:45:40 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i think we went a bit overkill on the cola&bubbles station 20:45:45 <PublicServer> <avdg> :p 20:45:46 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> hint hint, somebody 20:45:48 <PublicServer> <Vypus> theres a problem at hub 01 20:45:49 <PublicServer> <Vypus> that i can't solve 20:45:53 <Ammler> !dl 20:45:53 <PublicServer> Ammler: !dl autostart|autottd|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x 20:45:58 <Giddorah> !dl autottd 20:45:58 <PublicServer> Giddorah: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/AutoTTD 20:45:58 <Ammler> autottd 20:46:04 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> what is it? 20:46:07 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 20:46:12 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> ahh 20:46:13 <Ammler> or is it autoupdate 20:46:20 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> the trains blocking eachother by accelerating? 20:46:22 *** damalix has joined #openttdcoop 20:46:25 <PublicServer> <avdg> again :( 20:46:41 <PublicServer> <Vypus> ya where they are stopped 20:46:48 <PublicServer> <Vypus> i don't know how to solve that 20:46:54 <PeterT> !dl autottd 20:46:54 <PublicServer> PeterT: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/AutoTTD 20:46:55 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> fixed 20:47:01 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> if it was what i think you was thinking about 20:47:19 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> only temp thouhg 20:47:21 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> due to jams 20:47:32 <PublicServer> *** avdg has joined company #1 20:47:45 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> its sort of ironic that prios designed to stop jams 20:47:47 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> cause jams 20:47:59 <PublicServer> <Vypus> i have a sign under !train problem duck 20:48:06 <PublicServer> <Vypus> thats what i was talking about 20:48:16 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> its nor really a problem though 20:48:19 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> its called a prio 20:48:32 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> its just not long enough for the trains to merge cleanly 20:48:43 <PublicServer> <Vypus> well i sat there and watched it, the main lane was hogging it all 20:48:44 <Giddorah> Ammler: So... In AutoTTD I should add an IP 20:48:48 <Ammler> !dl autoupdate 20:48:48 <PublicServer> Ammler: http://www.openttdcoop.org/winupdater 20:48:54 <PublicServer> <Vypus> it was like for every 10 trains the other tracks would let 1 through 20:49:02 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> thats the POINT 20:49:09 <PublicServer> <avdg> check !slow 20:49:12 <PublicServer> <Vypus> lol, >_< 20:49:13 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> it should only let through trains when theres room for them 20:49:23 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> otherwise, the trains should wait 20:49:58 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> we're working on speeding up that whole area 20:50:11 <Ammler> !dl 20:50:11 <PublicServer> Ammler: !dl autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|win32|win64|win9x 20:50:23 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> with adding more stuff to the gigan awesome psychadelic cola and bubble drop of doom 20:50:24 <PublicServer> <avdg> check !ooo 20:50:32 <Ammler> Giddorah: autottd doesn't support it, it is ottdau 20:50:34 <PublicServer> <avdg> 5k waiting :p 20:50:42 <Giddorah> Oh... Only on linux-systems then :( 20:50:45 <PublicServer> <Vypus> well im kinda new, so all this is like a huge blur to me 20:50:57 <Ammler> ottdau is a windows only tool 20:51:05 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> did you read the slowstart stuff 20:51:08 <Giddorah> !dl ottdau 20:51:08 <PublicServer> Giddorah: http://www.openttdcoop.org/winupdater 20:51:08 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> ? 20:51:21 <PublicServer> <Vypus> i read the quickstart 20:51:28 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> well the slowstart explains prios i think 20:51:41 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> the idea is that the mainline has priority > * 20:51:50 <PublicServer> <Vypus> lol 20:51:55 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> so anything comming onto a mainline is forced to wait until theres room for it 20:52:35 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> if the wait is REALLY LONG, it could indicate the need for a etra line, or something like that 20:52:49 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> brb 20:53:15 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> its alot easier to get into a game when its new 20:53:24 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> later on, everything is just a mess of lines 20:53:42 <PublicServer> <Vypus> oh 20:54:26 *** damalix has quit IRC 20:54:30 <PublicServer> *** Giddorah has left the game (connection lost) 20:54:58 *** damalix has joined #openttdcoop 20:55:11 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i'm still not sure how we're going to connect up the extra entry and exit stuff for bubble/cola drop 20:55:19 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> it needs to be done. i just cant see the space for it 20:55:23 <PublicServer> *** Giddorah joined the game 20:55:55 <damalix> !svn 20:55:55 <PublicServer> damalix: svn update -r19611 && make && ./bin/openttd -n ps.openttdcoop.org#1 -p timber 20:55:55 <PublicServer> damalix: svn checkout -r19611 svn://svn.openttd.org/trunk openttdcoop && cd openttdcoop && ./configure && make 20:56:29 <PublicServer> *** Giddorah #1 joined the game 20:56:30 <PublicServer> *** Giddorah #1 has left the game (leaving) 20:56:37 <PublicServer> *** Damalix joined the game 20:56:53 <PublicServer> *** Damalix has left the game (connection lost) 20:56:57 <Giddorah> Cool 20:57:04 <Giddorah> It works :) Thanks Ammler :) 20:57:49 <Ammler> yaw 20:57:54 <PublicServer> *** Damalix joined the game 20:58:13 <PublicServer> *** Damalix has left the game (connection lost) 20:58:16 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00008698: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00008698.png 20:58:53 *** VictorOfSweden has quit IRC 20:59:36 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Why did you disconnect one of the dual-tunnel entrances to Cola-drop? 21:00:34 <PublicServer> <avdg> i found few pain points at cola & bubble drop at the exit 21:00:43 <PublicServer> <avdg> now the traffic is bit smoother 21:01:04 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Indeed it is 21:01:39 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Could make better use of the drop station to the west though 21:01:55 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Diverting one line of traffic to that 21:01:56 <PublicServer> <avdg> probably :p 21:02:33 <PublicServer> <avdg> but im impressed by the required amound of tf-hacks 21:02:48 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I have no idea how long of a detour trains exiting that part of the station has to take though 21:02:49 <PublicServer> <avdg> the sea is almost dead 21:03:54 <KyleS1> !password 21:03:54 <PublicServer> KyleS1: unkind 21:03:56 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yeah well... Who does fishing in OTTD anyways? 21:04:03 <avdg> :) 21:04:11 <PublicServer> *** KyleS joined the game 21:04:12 <avdg> psw 21:05:35 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> The eastern platforms aren't used at all as much as the western platforms 21:06:03 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> (of the ones in use offcourse) :P 21:07:44 *** A3aan has quit IRC 21:08:29 <PublicServer> *** Vypus has left the game (connection lost) 21:09:21 <PublicServer> <KyleS> want me to try to work on anything major as opposed to noodling around? ;-) 21:09:59 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Sure :) Connect the new exits from the Cola Drop to the rest of the network (a) 21:10:53 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Exit signalling is done I think 21:11:37 <KyleS1> connecting that is going to be difficult o.o 21:12:10 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yep :) It's major :) 21:12:36 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Don't wanna go with pre-signals instead of PBS there av? 21:12:54 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I'll just call you dawg from now on btw 21:13:18 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000D697: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000D697.png 21:13:42 <KyleS1> lol 21:14:21 <PublicServer> <avdg> connect? 21:14:30 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Exits aren't connected 21:14:39 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> ;P 21:14:57 <PublicServer> <avdg> k, connect it :p 21:15:04 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Sure... But... Where? ;) 21:15:19 <PublicServer> <avdg> i mean the entrance :p 21:15:46 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oh! Well... That'd be great :) But... Exiting trains don't have nowhere to go :) 21:16:28 <PublicServer> <avdg> just move :o 21:16:32 *** Dred_furst has quit IRC 21:16:46 <PublicServer> <avdg> I admit, this is gonna be a mess 21:16:57 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> No???? :O 21:17:15 <PublicServer> <avdg> we need 1 more lane 21:17:23 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Wait 21:17:27 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I found one 21:17:32 <KyleS1> or another horrendous bypass ;-) 21:17:35 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Already connected 21:17:50 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Wait 21:17:59 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Nvm... It was an entrance... lol 21:18:06 <PublicServer> <avdg> these 4 are actually 2x2 21:18:15 <PublicServer> * avdg guess 21:18:28 <PublicServer> <avdg> nvm 21:19:09 <PublicServer> <avdg> just connect 1? 21:19:50 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> 1 connected... But it will jam 21:20:23 <PublicServer> <avdg> :) 21:20:28 <PublicServer> <avdg> they don't like it 21:20:39 *** xpac has joined #openttdcoop 21:20:46 <PublicServer> <avdg> ah 21:22:29 <PublicServer> *** KyleS has left the game (connection lost) 21:26:36 <Giddorah> @gap 21:26:36 <Webster> Giddorah: (gap <trainlength> [<split>]) -- Returns minimum and maximum signal gap sizes for 2,3 and 4 linesplits with <trainlength>. If <spilt> is given it will return the the gap sizes for <split> (+/-) 1. 21:26:45 <Giddorah> @gap 3 21:26:45 <Webster> Giddorah: For Trainlength of 3: < 9 needs 2, 10 - 14 needs 3, 15 - 19 needs 4. 21:28:20 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000EA7F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000EA7F.png 21:33:28 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Aight... I made a minor bypass to free up some space in the sea 21:39:11 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> brb 21:39:12 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ has left the game (connection lost) 21:40:01 <pugi> grrr 21:40:05 <pugi> still game 181 :D 21:40:29 <PublicServer> <avdg> well, its not improving :p 21:40:57 *** Polygon has quit IRC 21:43:22 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000F6B0: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000F6B0.png 21:43:46 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Trying to make some room 21:43:51 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> But... It's... Tough... :P 21:44:12 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Not much playroom if I may say 21:44:21 *** Zulan has quit IRC 21:44:32 *** ^Spike^ has quit IRC 21:44:46 * Fuco sends hordes of lemmings over pugi 21:44:48 *** ^Spike^ has joined #openttdcoop 21:44:48 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ^Spike^ 21:44:52 <Fuco> dude! 21:44:57 *** snc has quit IRC 21:45:20 * pugi slaps Fuco around a bit with a long trout 21:45:23 *** snc has joined #openttdcoop 21:45:23 <pugi> <.< 21:45:35 <pugi> why have i never noticed you? :D 21:45:40 <Fuco> dunno 21:45:50 <Fuco> I don't play much lately 21:45:59 <Fuco> well, not at all tbh 21:46:00 <Fuco> :D 21:46:13 <pugi> :D 21:46:33 <Fuco> all I do now is fix bugs for ammler 21:47:26 <pugi> ah okay 21:47:33 <Ammler> Fuco: hello :-) 21:47:36 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> This is hard... :( 21:47:39 <pugi> i found a bug with pbs yesterday :P 21:48:26 <Fuco> hell, maybe after *this* semester is over I'd play some trains 21:48:31 <Fuco> but so far no luck 21:48:33 <pugi> :D 21:48:56 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> We're lucky hubs around Cola-drop jam alot... Or we would be in big trouble (a) 21:58:06 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ joined the game 21:58:22 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> hello :) 21:58:24 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001F8B9: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001F8B9.png 21:58:42 <PublicServer> <avdg> hey 21:59:13 <PublicServer> <avdg> lol, check tadale city woods 21:59:28 <PublicServer> *** avdg has joined spectators 21:59:51 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> what's going on there, avdg? 22:00:17 <PublicServer> <avdg> these trains are all going to 1 station 22:00:30 <PublicServer> <avdg> till its empty 22:00:32 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> it's some self-regurating network 22:00:42 <PublicServer> <avdg> yeah 22:00:47 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> I can't say I understand how is that designed :-p 22:00:53 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> but it blocked ML few times 22:01:00 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> so I don't trust it 22:01:02 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> ;) 22:01:07 <PublicServer> <avdg> boom! 22:01:10 <PublicServer> <avdg> :p 22:01:40 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> ??? @ !slow 22:02:01 <PublicServer> <avdg> just reacting slow 22:02:10 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> oh 22:02:16 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> fixed :-p 22:02:20 *** Kolo has joined #openttdcoop 22:02:27 <PublicServer> <avdg> :p 22:02:44 <PublicServer> <avdg> lagg 22:02:55 <PublicServer> *** Kolo joined the game 22:02:58 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> KolO! 22:03:07 <PublicServer> <avdg> hi 22:03:08 <Kolo> hello 22:03:41 <PublicServer> <avdg> why the lagg? 22:04:16 <Kolo> i thought we'll have a new game by now 22:04:27 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> nah 22:04:29 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> :) 22:07:22 <Ammler> SmatZ: likes moar toys 22:07:35 <Ammler> !info 22:07:35 <PublicServer> Ammler: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Jamming United' Year Founded: 1950 Money: 28912849884 Loan: 0 Value: 28916820399 (T:1360, R:4, P:0, S:0) unprotected 22:07:38 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> yeah :) 22:07:41 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> love this game 22:08:17 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 22:08:34 <PublicServer> *** Amm1er joined the game 22:08:38 <PublicServer> * SmatZ drinks a fizzy drink 22:09:01 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> I love CANDY MOUNTAIN so much 22:09:06 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> I don't want to destroy it :-/ 22:09:07 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> I see red dots with my stuck trains map! 22:09:18 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> rily? 22:09:34 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> hmm HUB11 22:10:01 <SmatZ> Ammler: http://devs.openttd.org/~smatz/mypatches/smallmap_vehicles_r19614.diff 22:10:12 <SmatZ> silly patch making vehicles red in the minimap 22:10:18 <SmatZ> guess you have something similiar :) 22:10:34 <PublicServer> *** Kolo has left the game (leaving) 22:10:46 <Ammler> hmm 22:11:02 <Ammler> which vehicles? 22:11:14 <SmatZ> Ammler: vehicles moving with speed < max_speed/2 22:11:22 <Ammler> ah 22:11:34 <SmatZ> not stopped,not loading 22:11:37 <Ammler> the patch from eddi does mark signals with longer red periods 22:11:40 <theholyduck> inb4 this games map lighting up like a christmass tree 22:11:44 <SmatZ> Ammler: interesting :) 22:12:10 <SmatZ> Ammler: that patch isn't that silly :) 22:12:14 <SmatZ> as mine 22:12:15 <SmatZ> :-p 22:12:22 *** ODM has quit IRC 22:12:36 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> HUB 12 e.g. 22:13:07 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> there's no jam 22:13:12 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> HUB11 is serious 22:13:23 *** damalix has quit IRC 22:13:25 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000CCB5: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000CCB5.png 22:13:25 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> but yes, the traffic at HUB12 is near its limit 22:13:30 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> I want to build next lane 22:13:33 *** Kolo has quit IRC 22:13:39 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> from south to east 22:13:46 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> yup 22:14:03 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> it doesn't show jams 22:14:10 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> is it just me or this is a endless game of "needs more lines" 22:14:23 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> :-) 22:14:25 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> :) 22:15:01 <PublicServer> <avdg> make vertical lines, from left to right :p 22:15:04 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> sweets drop also stucks sometimes 22:15:41 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> yes, and hub 11 is red too 22:15:52 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> it's RED RED 22:16:01 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> else it is fine :-) 22:16:19 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i would like to claim that this map is nearing the capacity we can physically FIT in some areas 22:16:22 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> omigodomigod what to do first 22:16:30 <KyleS1> !password 22:16:30 <PublicServer> KyleS1: eldest 22:16:33 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> :) 22:16:33 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> hub5 especially 22:16:39 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> yeah 22:16:42 <PublicServer> *** avdg has left the game (leaving) 22:16:44 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> HUB05 is awesome 22:16:51 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> yes, but you cant do anything to it 22:16:53 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> anymorwe 22:16:58 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> no space, and no sanity 22:17:01 <PublicServer> *** KyleS joined the game 22:18:08 <PublicServer> * SmatZ fixes HUB11 22:18:29 *** Progman has quit IRC 22:18:36 <Ammler> http://img.openttdcoop.org/images/waitingsig.png 22:18:47 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> plastics exit is jamming a bit around hub05 22:18:58 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> yup 22:18:59 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> and jamming a ml 22:19:04 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> it's always been 22:19:24 *** avdg has quit IRC 22:19:45 <SmatZ> Ammler: interesting :) 22:20:29 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> that said, the network is remarkably fluent 22:20:34 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> you can remove any random route point 22:20:41 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> and suddenly, trains starts going the other way 22:20:55 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i THINK i can fix hub 05 that way 22:20:56 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> it's alive, theholyduck 22:21:07 <KyleS1> the network is sentient 22:21:23 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> anyone up for !remove this? 22:21:36 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i think that would force trains to route diffrently 22:21:41 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> making less jams there 22:21:46 *** einKarl has quit IRC 22:21:51 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> it's xtc's work 22:22:00 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> hmmm 22:22:03 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> well yeah, but its causing jams 22:22:05 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> it's quite redesigned already 22:22:15 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> tis broken 22:22:17 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> kill it 22:22:20 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> and jamming plastic/battery exit 22:22:36 <V453000> !password 22:22:36 <PublicServer> V453000: eldest 22:22:38 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> lets try removing it and see what happens 22:22:58 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> worst that could happen is a total meltdown 22:23:12 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 22:23:14 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> HUB10 will die 22:23:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> heya ho 22:23:18 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> well, what DID happen 22:23:21 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> well, it needs time until train got it 22:23:24 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> ohai V453000 22:23:25 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> is that no more trains comming that way 22:23:27 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> into hub05 22:23:31 <PeterT> one sec. 22:23:33 <KyleS1> ohai :o 22:23:39 <PeterT> Wrong window :-( 22:23:45 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> :-p 22:23:46 <PeterT> meant for #tcl 22:23:53 <KyleS1> :o 22:24:24 * Ammler asks Fuco not #tcl :-) 22:24:26 <PublicServer> <KyleS> lmao now the beer trains go through thplastic/batteries drop 22:24:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> SmatZ: does finalizing mean killing everything ?:D 22:24:37 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> hmm 22:24:40 <PublicServer> <KyleS> won't someone pls think of the children?? 22:24:40 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i guess removing that thing 22:24:43 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> wasnt a good idea 22:24:59 <PublicServer> * theholyduck adds back 22:25:02 *** dashing has joined #openttdcoop 22:25:10 <PeterT> Ammler: I'm trying to fix up join.tcl 22:25:15 <PeterT> to support channel keys 22:25:16 <dashing> hi 22:25:19 <PeterT> and usage 22:25:20 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> hmm, maybe we should consider a bypass to fix it instead? 22:25:25 <PeterT> but it doesn'tj work :-( 22:25:26 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> bypass from hub05 south entrance 22:25:29 <Ammler> it does already, afaik 22:25:34 <PeterT> I should probably just wait for dihedral to get back 22:25:37 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> and over hub12 22:25:48 <PeterT> Ammler: No, the current version doesn't check for arguments 22:25:58 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> to avoid toy traffic 22:26:02 <dashing> !password 22:26:02 <PublicServer> dashing: eldest 22:26:05 <Ammler> we used it once so the server was able to join our other universe 22:26:10 <PublicServer> *** dashing joined the game 22:26:14 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> HUB05->HUB02 needs more lanes 22:26:25 <PeterT> which other universe? 22:26:30 <PeterT> that secret channel :-D 22:26:36 *** xpac has quit IRC 22:26:49 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> well yeah 22:26:52 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> a direct bypass 22:26:55 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> is what it needs 22:27:11 <Ammler> but why you waste time for something you don't have a usage? 22:27:18 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> ]hmm 22:27:40 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> if you start bypass from !BYPASS FROM HERE 22:27:44 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> and straight to cola 22:27:52 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> that ought to fix alot of problems 22:28:23 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> would stop the issues of cola trains merging onto plastic drop exit 22:28:27 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00016143: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00016143.png 22:28:28 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> and speed that whole area up 22:28:41 <PeterT> Ammler: Because I can. 22:28:47 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game 22:28:53 <PeterT> I like to develop ap+ 22:29:02 <PeterT> In the future, I will make more complicated IRC commands 22:29:04 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yello 22:29:13 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> hello XeryusTC 22:29:26 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> well 22:29:55 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> I would like to keep HUB 02 and 05 as they are 22:30:02 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> for end-of-game-screenshots :) 22:30:11 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> well... 22:30:17 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> we COULD do a toy factory style 22:30:35 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> dedicated lines are not nice :( 22:30:38 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> gigant way around bypass 22:30:44 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> SmatZ: well without the bypass. 22:30:52 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> you have to modify hub05 22:30:53 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> atleas 22:30:54 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hub 5 is a good one for an end game screenshot 22:30:57 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> tracks everywhere 22:31:16 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> and really. 22:31:23 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> do you want to rebuild hub05? 22:31:24 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> unfortunately not as spaghetti as i hoped :P 22:31:34 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i already did once, no thanks 22:31:50 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> well yeah, we need a bypass or a rebuilt 22:31:51 <PublicServer> <KyleS> also Hub 08 and the huge bypasses :O 22:31:52 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> sweets pickup is slightly underservices 22:31:55 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> as far as i'm concerned 22:32:12 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> could need another 100 trains 22:32:37 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> wont be for a while 22:32:39 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> we got jams to fix 22:32:55 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> speaking of hubs 22:33:01 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> hub08 isquite nice to look at 22:33:03 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> everytime I join, you have jams to fix 22:33:06 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> appart from all the trains standing still 22:33:11 <PublicServer> *** Amm1er has left the game (connection lost) 22:33:25 <Ammler> hmm 22:33:28 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> Amm1er: well, thats the nature of a organic network with medium tf, on an island nation 22:33:34 <Ammler> well, good night then :-P 22:33:36 <Razaekel> !password 22:33:37 <PublicServer> Razaekel: nieces 22:33:49 <PublicServer> *** Razaekel joined the game 22:34:05 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> holy crap, you got enough tracks there? 22:34:38 <KyleS1> no! needs moar tracks! 22:34:44 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> MOAR 22:34:57 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> where? 22:35:01 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> in most places with alot of tracks 22:35:06 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> we dont have enough tracks 22:35:17 <PublicServer> *** Razaekel has left the game (connection lost) 22:35:21 <gr00vy> re 22:35:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> then construct additional pylons 22:35:37 <gr00vy> !passed 22:35:40 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> not enough space always 22:35:42 <gr00vy> !password 22:35:42 <PublicServer> gr00vy: nieces 22:35:42 <KyleS1> lol 22:35:45 <gr00vy> :D 22:35:45 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> and medium tf 22:36:00 <PublicServer> *** gr00vaLisTic joined the game 22:36:20 <gr00vy> oh new stage :D 22:36:21 <gr00vy> nice 22:36:34 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> medium tf doesn't mean no tf at all 22:36:47 <theholyduck> XeryusTC, but it doesnt mean, raise the oceans and flatten the mountains 22:36:51 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> medium tf is try to keep the landscape intact, but speed and flow of the network is more important 22:36:54 <theholyduck> to make room for more lines and huger hubs? :P 22:37:51 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> what are you actually doing? 22:38:46 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i just "beatufied" the psg sign 22:38:56 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> by making it look non cancerous on original graphics 22:39:20 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> brb 22:39:43 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> psg sign? 22:39:55 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> just north of hub 07 22:39:56 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> i seem to be blind... 22:39:57 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> err 22:39:58 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> 08 22:40:00 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> or to tirred... 22:40:03 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> -r 22:40:12 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 22:40:39 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> oh 22:40:41 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> there 22:40:41 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> :D 22:40:59 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> btw, where is SLH 08? 22:41:00 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> :) 22:41:08 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> sign list is missing it 22:41:12 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> removed probably 22:41:32 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> yup, seems so 22:41:56 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> i enjoy my first coop station is working :) 22:42:20 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> well it wasnt 22:42:33 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> it is after V fixed the entrance 22:42:40 *** mrruben5 has joined #openttdcoop 22:42:41 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hm? 22:42:47 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> sweetsdrop? 22:43:05 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> ah, i thought you ment towndrop 22:43:10 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> err, that is what you ment 22:43:17 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> it was broken a bit 22:43:24 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> SmatZ: what is it with you and all these buffers in front of platforms? 22:43:24 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> well, i was participating @ town drop 22:43:29 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00016FA0: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00016FA0.png 22:43:33 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> but that entrance construct was not mine :) 22:43:39 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> technically its still a bir broken under high loads 22:43:48 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 22:43:55 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> but less so than it was before 22:44:02 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> because of the combos? 22:44:18 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> well the way it was designed before, if 2 trains came on seperate lines at the same time 22:44:19 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> XeryusTC: I believe it makes the station faster :) 22:44:20 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> at least last minutes it seemed very fluent 22:44:25 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> they could jam eachother 22:44:30 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> also jams look shorter 22:44:35 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ah, you're still talking about towndrop? 22:44:36 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> :D 22:44:40 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> yes :P 22:44:43 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hm ok :) 22:44:45 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> i see 22:44:50 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> but removing the x's 22:44:54 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> and the presignal bypass 22:44:56 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> did wonders 22:45:14 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> SmatZ: it mainly queues up trains behind unloading trains 22:45:45 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> before the bypass was added, trains prefered a nearer waiting position over an empty station track that whas at the bottom 22:45:48 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i think they're not really necessary except from alotting more trains and increase capacity to the station 22:45:49 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> strange somehow 22:45:50 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> XeryusTC: when there is free plaform, train will choose track to the free platform 22:45:56 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> if there isn't, they will queue 22:45:59 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> or well, increase the capacity of the entry 22:46:03 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> which is fine 22:46:27 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> at cola drop they seem to queue in front of full platforms while there are empty ones 22:46:45 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> yes, thats exactly what happened at town drop before adding the bypass 22:46:46 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i must admit though, it is decent use of the breaking space in front of the station 22:46:49 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> XeryusTC: the entry is very unbalanced 22:46:50 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> very often 22:47:07 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> also, those additional signals are not by me :-p 22:47:10 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop 22:47:40 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i like fully balanced entries ;) 22:47:45 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> speaking of town-drop 22:47:50 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i think it needs a balancer on exit 22:47:59 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> or rather, less trains exiting on 1 of the lines 22:48:00 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> cola drop is designed for 4 lanes 22:48:06 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> one of the lines is completely jammed with exiting trains 22:48:11 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> and the other is fully free flowing 22:48:37 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> SmatZ: i've build a fully balanced station with 6 lines in once ;) 22:48:40 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> well the same at entrance 22:48:47 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> 't was madness, i admit 22:49:40 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> actually, town drop exit in general 22:49:43 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> could need some work 22:49:48 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> trains are awfully slow getting out 22:50:40 *** dashing has quit IRC 22:51:12 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> perhaps a 3rd exit track with a 3->2 mixer behind it? 22:51:14 <XeryusTC> !archive 22:51:14 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: http://www.openttdcoop.ORG/wiki/PublicServer:Archive | http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/ProZone:Archive | http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/MemberZone:Archive 22:51:27 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> it would jam sooner or later anyway 22:51:36 *** thgergo has quit IRC 22:53:37 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> btw, why is the 2nd exit track from top of towndrop using a tunnel? :) 22:54:00 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> just for optical reasons? 22:54:01 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> :D 22:54:09 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> gr00vaLisTic: where? 22:54:22 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> yeah 22:54:27 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> uniformity and such :) 22:54:32 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hrhr 22:54:45 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> and added a piece of track on it, so no one would notice :D 22:54:52 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> :) 22:55:51 <XeryusTC> bah, can't find the game :s 22:56:01 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> the game? 22:56:15 <XeryusTC> with the 6 line in fully balanced station 22:57:26 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has left the game (connection lost) 22:58:32 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001396C: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001396C.png 22:59:29 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> n8 guys 22:59:34 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> nn gr00vaLisTic 22:59:47 <PublicServer> *** KyleS has left the game (leaving) 22:59:51 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hoping for a new game waiting for us when i wake up tomorrow :D 23:00:00 <PublicServer> *** gr00vaLisTic has left the game (leaving) 23:01:33 *** ^Spike^ has quit IRC 23:02:24 <XeryusTC> hmm 23:02:28 <XeryusTC> i think that game is gone 23:04:10 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game 23:05:50 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has left the game (connection lost) 23:08:36 <V453000> wasnt it PZ5 ? :o 23:08:41 <V453000> there you had some awsom stations 23:10:37 *** Phazorx has left #openttdcoop 23:11:03 *** Phazorx has joined #openttdcoop 23:11:03 *** Webster sets mode: +o Phazorx 23:11:15 <PublicServer> *** dashing has left the game (connection lost) 23:11:22 *** Phazorx has left #openttdcoop 23:12:12 *** Phazorx has joined #openttdcoop 23:12:12 *** Webster sets mode: +o Phazorx 23:12:40 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> hmm too many fizzy drinks today 23:12:55 <PublicServer> * SmatZ drunk 23:12:58 <V453000> :-D 23:13:03 <SmatZ> :) 23:13:06 <V453000> cool 23:13:13 <V453000> fizzy drinks are good 23:13:25 <V453000> especially the One 23:13:27 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> :-D 23:13:34 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000C8A4: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000C8A4.png 23:13:56 <V453000> in severe numbers ... not just one of One 23:14:02 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> :-D 23:15:06 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> let's rebuild this chaos sh** 23:22:03 <V453000> which part is getting killd? :) 23:23:42 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> ALLL 23:24:22 <V453000> eww :-D 23:26:26 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 23:26:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> o_O 23:26:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> wow 23:27:06 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> :D 23:27:28 <KenjiE20> SmatZ has gone mad! Quick everyone back him up 23:27:30 <KenjiE20> :P 23:27:34 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> :-D 23:27:41 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> HATE HATE HATE 23:28:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 23:28:36 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000F2A1: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000F2A1.png 23:28:40 * V453000 supports SmatZ 23:28:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> BEER BEER BEER 23:29:11 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> :D 23:35:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> I see people fear brain 23:35:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> pub (beer pickup) remained untouched 23:35:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> almost... 23:38:54 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 23:39:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> who hates stuff reasoned "I was bored", raise your glass 23:39:37 <PublicServer> * V453000 raises 23:39:38 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> :-D 23:41:09 <KyleS1> !password 23:41:09 <PublicServer> KyleS1: meddle 23:41:27 <PublicServer> *** KyleS joined the game 23:43:38 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000F755: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000F755.png 23:43:39 *** Phazorx has left #openttdcoop 23:47:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> wee 23:47:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> its friday 23:47:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> wee 23:47:42 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> :-D 23:47:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> *celebrate* 23:47:44 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> weee 23:47:50 <KyleS1> boo its thursday :< 23:47:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> yahaha 23:48:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> also a beer day 23:48:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> dont be sad 23:48:07 <KyleS1> lols 23:48:14 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 23:48:43 <KyleS1> i don't drink beer...but i probably couldn't get very good beer where i live anyways... ;/ not like in europe 23:48:52 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> :( 23:49:18 <V453000> ;O_O 23:49:19 <V453000> GOD 23:49:20 <V453000> DAMN 23:49:24 <V453000> where the hell do you ive? 23:49:27 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> beer game 23:49:28 <V453000> love? 23:49:34 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> :) 23:49:40 <V453000> in a desert? 23:49:43 <KyleS1> lol 23:49:44 <KyleS1> yes 23:49:45 <KyleS1> XD 23:49:45 <V453000> under a sea? 23:49:47 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> :D 23:49:55 <V453000> I would DIE there 23:50:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> how can such a country even exist 23:50:53 <KyleS1> :o 23:50:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> isnt it against the law? 23:51:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> or human rights? 23:51:19 <KyleS1> lol 23:52:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> SmatZ: this game is nuts to be exact :D 23:53:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> too khaotic though =( 23:53:28 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> :( 23:53:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> but with an awesome result :) 23:54:02 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> :D 23:54:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> how much beer per month do we have? 23:54:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> 9180 23:54:21 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> :D 23:54:26 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> will be better 23:54:37 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> drop was very jammed 23:54:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> that is 300 Per day 23:54:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> for 2 people 23:54:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> hmmm 23:54:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes, we need more 23:54:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> definitely 23:55:06 <pugi> beer != fizzy drink <.< 23:55:16 <pugi> beer is not made from cola and bubbles 23:55:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> (rule #1: under ANY circumstances, we need MORE beer) 23:55:34 <PublicServer> *** MrRuben joined the game 23:55:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> the only legitimate thing I know as fizzy and pottable I know is beer 23:55:55 <pugi> :D 23:56:06 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> :))) 23:56:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> all others = fake or enemy 23:56:36 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> hehe 23:58:40 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000126BA: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000126BA.png 23:58:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> especially those not containing any alcohol 23:58:58 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> :-D 23:59:05 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> alcohol is good 23:59:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> ysss 23:59:23 <Giddorah> @gap 3 23:59:23 <Webster> Giddorah: For Trainlength of 3: < 9 needs 2, 10 - 14 needs 3, 15 - 19 needs 4.