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Log for #openttdcoop on 17th May 2010:
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00:01:01  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Makes that prio superfluous as well, no?
00:01:15  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Sorry, I mean that penalty.
00:01:26  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> not really
00:01:40  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> that bridge i removed joined the inner track
00:02:26  <PublicServer> <Mazur> BUt the two remaining split from and join to the same track.
00:02:36  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yes
00:02:43  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it is just doubled bridges in a small space
00:03:23  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yes, so I was wondering, does that penalty on the second one do any good at all?
00:04:06  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Not that it matters.
00:04:52  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it makes trains prefer the first bridge
00:05:05  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> in the hope to prevent stopping trains on the ML because they all want to take the same track
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00:22:47  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i'm off gn
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00:26:43  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0000EC96: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000EC96.png
00:29:35  <XeryusTC> !password
00:29:35  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: sperms
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00:29:52  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> actually i'm not off, i saw that the latest simpsons episode is available :D
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00:32:24  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Simpsons rule.
00:32:56  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Saw two new (for me) episodes today, as well.
00:33:03  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it took almost more time to extract the rars than to download them :P
00:33:16  <PublicServer> <Mazur> :-)
00:34:40  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> why are hangars called someone? :P
00:35:00  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Are they?
00:35:29  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> they are over here
00:35:37  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I see.
00:36:00  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I have no idea, didn;t hear anyone about it.
00:36:40  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> maybe it's an easter egg in one of the newgrfs
00:37:07  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Mmmmm, eggs.
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00:38:37  <PublicServer> <Mazur>
00:38:58  <Ammler> [02:32] <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it took almost more time to extract the rars than to download them  <-- I hate RAR releases
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00:39:16  <Ammler> and good night :-)
00:39:41  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> ammler: that's what you get if people make their torrents directly from newsgroups
00:39:44  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and good night
00:39:54  <Ammler> it is so stupid to split 180MB file to 20 10MB files...
00:40:11  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it isn't on newsgroups
00:40:22  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but on torrents it is as the torrent system already splits by itself
00:40:30  <Ammler> XeryusTC: yeah, I do comment those torrents always and give them worst possible rating
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00:40:48  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it is default on the private tracker i'm on
00:41:00  <Ammler> quite often here too
00:41:32  <Ammler> but lucky I am not the only one complaining about so some uploaders take the time to unpack :-)
00:41:45  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0001E29B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001E29B.png
00:41:49  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hehe, i might start complaining too :o
00:42:06  <Ammler> around 50% about the Torrents here
00:42:57  <Ammler> well, another bad disadvantage is that rars need a sample, so you can disable that on download and you wont get listed as Snatcher
00:43:48  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> rars dont need a sample, those are just for deciding on quality before downloading the entire thing/extracting it
00:44:04  <Ammler> most rar Torrents here have that
00:44:27  <Ammler> I don't download TS movies
00:44:47  <Ammler> only TV shows and mp3 albums
00:45:01  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i dont download TS and screeners either
00:45:13  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but sometimes quality on dvdrips and tvrips is low too
00:45:31  <Ammler> hmm, can't complains
00:45:33  <Ammler> -s
00:45:42  <Ammler> tvrips are hdtv rips
00:45:46  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i never look at samples though
00:46:16  <Ammler> 400-500 MB
00:46:25  <Ammler> for 40-50min
00:46:36  <PeterT> I miss aXXo :-(
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00:57:16  <Mazur> Hmm, provider playing with my connection again.
00:59:35  <XeryusTC> fortunately they do it in the middle of the night :P
01:00:24  <XeryusTC> !auto
01:00:24  <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has enabled autopause mode.
01:00:34  <XeryusTC> !players
01:00:36  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Client 198 (Orange) is XeryusTC, in company 1 (Yeti Transportation United)
01:00:45  <XeryusTC> !playercount
01:00:45  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Number of players: 1
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01:00:55  <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players)
01:01:05  <XeryusTC> !password
01:01:05  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: colons
01:01:10  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
01:01:11  <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players)
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01:01:20  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm, game is being unpaused on one player :s
01:02:13  <XeryusTC> !rcon patch min_players
01:02:13  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: 'min_players' is an unknown setting.
01:02:18  <XeryusTC> !rcon patch network.min_players
01:02:18  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: 'network.min_players' is an unknown setting.
01:02:46  <XeryusTC> !rcon patch min_active_clients
01:02:46  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Current value for 'min_active_clients' is: '1' (min: 0, max: 255)
01:02:49  <XeryusTC> !rcon patch min_active_clients 2
01:02:50  <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players)
01:02:52  <Mazur> Just as well, as I said, it appears to be "sod the customer" time at my provider again.
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01:04:08  <XeryusTC> anyway, good night
01:24:30  <Mazur> Good night.
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07:30:30  <KloBass> he he he hell ou
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09:22:43  <V453000> [11:21] <+PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0001E29B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001E29B.png [02:41:45] lovely :)
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09:35:01  <Wouterr> !password
09:35:01  <PublicServer> Wouterr: reeled
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09:36:26  <XeryusTC> !password
09:36:26  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: reeled
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09:37:13  <Wouterr> hi
09:37:15  <maza> hi
09:37:28  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hello
09:39:03  <XeryusTC> !unpause
09:39:03  <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has unpaused the server. (Use !auto to set it back.)
09:39:04  <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players)
09:39:12  <XeryusTC> !auto
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09:58:23  <theholyduck> !password
09:58:23  <PublicServer> theholyduck: holier
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10:09:13  <V453000> !password pls
10:09:13  <PublicServer> V453000: holier
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10:09:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
10:09:28  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> yo
10:09:32  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hello
10:09:33  <SmatZ> hello V453000
10:09:47  <Wouterr> hi
10:09:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi SmatZ
10:10:03  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> check the size on SLH1&2 ;)
10:10:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> we have a bug here
10:10:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> nice :)
10:10:28  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> they're tiny ;)
10:10:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> ye
10:10:47  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> unlike my gigant bbh of doom
10:10:58  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> made that way because i suck at compact building :p
10:11:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> I will fix that bridging signaliing for you, ok?
10:11:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> between BBH02 and storage
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10:11:57  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> sure
10:12:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> or you want to see that at least so you dont make that again? :)
10:12:18  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> whats wrong with it specifically? too many signal?
10:12:23  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> *signals
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10:12:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> the first signal gap of a bridging section
10:12:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> must be longer than any following
10:12:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> or equal
10:12:59  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> ah
10:13:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> because of this
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10:13:58  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> but as i remember, the pathfinder doesnt behave too retardely as i signaled it there
10:14:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes it does
10:14:26  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i'm fairly sure it doesnt, atleast, last time i built it like that
10:14:36  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i'm fairly sure i tested to make sure
10:14:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> you can try to revert it later
10:14:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> but it will fail badly
10:14:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> and this just doesnt make sense to build it this way
10:15:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> this isnt the same case
10:15:59  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> hmm,
10:16:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> this would be the same
10:16:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> I just dont see any reason for those signals .)
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10:17:29  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> see, it picks the other line
10:17:35  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> because yapf sees that train
10:17:41  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> even though the signal is green
10:18:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> well
10:18:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> but sometimes it fails I think
10:18:22  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> see, the signal makes no practical difference
10:18:35  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> yapf sees the train blocking the 1 line further up
10:18:40  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> so it picks the other automatically
10:19:15  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> lol
10:19:54  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> the unkillable mines in the middle of your poor depot?
10:19:59  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> *waiting area
10:20:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> i see
10:20:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> wtf
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10:21:03  <PeterT> fonsinchen is a member now?
10:21:11  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> no
10:21:21  <PeterT> okay
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10:23:08  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm, SLH 3 is ugly :P
10:26:55  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0000838E: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000838E.png
10:27:48  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> lol
10:27:54  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> smog city has 5 power plants now :P
10:28:21  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> and an oil refinery
10:28:22  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> :P
10:29:15  <V453000> :)
10:29:30  <V453000> should build city drop before there isnt any space :D
10:29:53  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> building it is going to be awkward anyway :P
10:29:56  <Ammler> !url
10:29:56  <PublicServer> Ammler: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/
10:29:57  <V453000> :)
10:30:08  <V453000> btw finally our screenshots look nice :)
10:30:21  <Ammler> alpine climate?
10:30:23  <Ammler> does it work?
10:30:30  <V453000> :) overwrites opengfx
10:30:35  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> farm fields are ugly
10:30:44  <V453000> thats true XeryusTC :)
10:30:58  <Ammler> afaik, alpine isn't compatible with openttd
10:31:11  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> why wouldn't it?
10:31:13  <Ammler> or just with opengfx
10:31:18  <V453000> ?
10:31:25  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it wasnt compatible with ottd before as ottd didnt support newcargoes :P
10:31:30  <Ammler> well, why are farm fields ugly?
10:31:37  <V453000> because of the snow
10:31:40  <V453000> makes fences on farms
10:31:45  <V453000> so there are fences everywhere
10:31:52  <V453000> as fields regenerate
10:32:25  <Ammler> why does someone use alpine?
10:32:30  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yeah, that's very ugly, but more of an ottd bug than incompatibility with alpine
10:32:50  * planetmaker rather looks forward to custom fields
10:32:51  <Ammler> XeryusTC: also the snowy houses looks ugly
10:33:04  <planetmaker> there's something in the pipe, I think :-)
10:33:05  <Ammler> as the snow sprites don't much the house below
10:33:12  <Ammler> matchç
10:33:15  <Ammler> match*
10:33:16  <V453000> Ammler: but solving the farm no-production-in-winter is cool
10:33:24  <XeryusTC> hmm, havent noticed that yet, i have town buildings invisible
10:33:43  <Ammler> XeryusTC: you won't as you don't use opengfx
10:33:50  <V453000> haha
10:33:59  <planetmaker> V453000, that's something which newgrf can solve. So it's not really a bug
10:34:06  <Ammler> we should make a blacklist for newgrfs
10:34:09  <V453000> im not saying its bug
10:34:26  <planetmaker> ecs does that according to season
10:34:33  <V453000> I know
10:34:36  <V453000> but ecs ...
10:34:39  <Ammler> and move alpine to obsolete in the pack
10:34:47  <planetmaker> dunno though, if newgrf can query the current snow line height
10:34:57  <planetmaker> Ammler, good idea...
10:35:07  <V453000> Ammler: I dont see the reason :) as long as we have a good game ... why
10:35:13  <Ammler> the problem with the seasons is that the years are way too short
10:35:19  * PeterT pats planetmaker on the back
10:35:20  <planetmaker> which actually again reminds me of a grfpack "duty" we wanted to undertake - but I forgot again :-(
10:35:30  <planetmaker> hm @ PeterT ?
10:35:41  <PeterT> well done http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=877704#p877704
10:35:43  <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums • View topic - Patch: Upgrade airports (at www.tt-forums.net)
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10:36:02  <planetmaker> ah, the price list? :-)
10:36:15  <PeterT> yup :-D
10:36:16  <planetmaker> yes, for 500€ I do provide binaries ;-)
10:36:19  <V453000> :D
10:36:40  <PeterT> i lol'd at the four hour minimum
10:36:41  <Ammler> planetmaker: hehe (typo on last word is intendend?)
10:37:03  <XeryusTC> Ammler: why move a perfectly fine newgrf to obsolete if graphics are incompatible?
10:37:09  <XeryusTC> isn't the gameplay aspect more important?
10:37:13  <planetmaker> :-D Not quite, Ammler
10:37:30  <planetmaker> XeryusTC, the simply don't work and glitch like hell
10:37:31  <Ammler> XeryusTC: doesn't mean you can't use it anymore
10:37:36  <Ammler> we can't remove it
10:37:43  <V453000> :(
10:37:47  <planetmaker> we can't use it anymore on PS, though
10:37:50  <V453000> enemies
10:37:52  <V453000> enemies
10:37:54  <V453000> enemies
10:37:54  <PublicServer> * theholyduck has to go away for a while
10:37:58  <Ammler> shouldn't*
10:38:08  <PublicServer> * theholyduck made a todo list on his junction if anyone feels like fixing it instead of rebuilding it from scratch
10:38:34  <planetmaker> V453000, ?
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10:38:51  <V453000> I like the alpine
10:39:11  <Ammler> planetmaker: you should ignore V453000 regarding to talks about base sets ;-)
10:39:32  <planetmaker> Ammler, I figured, yes :S
10:39:33  <V453000> -.-
10:39:49  <planetmaker> it just saddens me
10:39:50  * V453000 goes grab some beer ftw
10:40:04  <Ammler> V453000: I like alpine too. Quite much actually.
10:40:25  <V453000> :) but I still dont get it what is the issue
10:40:28  <Ammler> it is Swiss Clima :-)
10:40:30  <V453000> few glitches ...
10:40:51  <V453000> if you would take glitches seriously, you would have to hate the whole 2cc set for example
10:40:53  <planetmaker> it could be called "completely messed-up graphics", too
10:41:00  <V453000> but why
10:41:13  <Ammler> the brown ground on arctic is so "unnatural" for me
10:41:15  <V453000> the playability is ok
10:41:30  <Ammler> V453000: check it with opengfx
10:41:37  <V453000> you want to kill me?
10:41:37  <V453000> :P
10:41:38  <V453000> ok
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10:41:59  <V453000> (expect me to say opengfx sucks) :P
10:42:12  <XeryusTC> !screen
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10:42:14  <V453000> but from what I saw in screenshots
10:42:14  <Ammler> /ignore V453000
10:42:21  <V453000> that is also opengfx
10:42:21  <XeryusTC> bah
10:42:23  <V453000> and looke dok
10:42:34  <XeryusTC> bah
10:42:34  <Ammler> try to screen a town
10:42:35  <XeryusTC> !screen
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10:42:39  <XeryusTC> i'm trying
10:42:50  <XeryusTC> there you have it :P
10:42:55  <XeryusTC> it's not that bad
10:43:02  <XeryusTC> the building offset is wrong though :o
10:43:07  <Ammler> hmm, no original houses
10:43:11  <Ammler> yes
10:43:24  <V453000> hm
10:43:31  <XeryusTC> seems like an offset issue mostly
10:43:38  <Ammler> because alpine set reuses the original sprites
10:43:52  <XeryusTC> but we shouldn't ban the newgrf just because houses dont fit
10:43:57  <Ammler> and the houses are different from original and default
10:44:06  <V453000> -.-
10:44:08  <XeryusTC> Ammler: with that logic we should ban newstations too, it also always uses original groundsprites
10:44:22  <Ammler> no, there it did copy
10:44:24  <XeryusTC> newstations isn't compatible with japan set for instance
10:44:37  <V453000> and 2cc set looks terrible with any tunnels ... and and and ... I just really find this pointless :)
10:44:39  <XeryusTC> i mean newstations by MB, not the feature
10:44:49  <planetmaker> newgrfs conflicting is another issue than newgrf not working independent of base set
10:45:23  <XeryusTC> but why shouldn't we ban ogfx then? it is the younger newgrf and should've tried to be compatible
10:45:31  <Ammler> well, I didn't say delete, just avoid it
10:45:43  <planetmaker> XeryusTC, because it's OPENttd
10:45:44  <Ammler> ogfx is no newgrf
10:45:53  <planetmaker> and not BUYTTDX
10:46:03  <Ammler> hehe
10:46:06  <XeryusTC> planetmaker: but MB's newgrfs are free too xD
10:46:15  <XeryusTC> and so are the original graphics
10:46:19  <planetmaker> XeryusTC, but not the proprietary newgrf
10:46:22  <XeryusTC> they're just in a legal gray area
10:46:24  <planetmaker> the original ones are NOT free
10:46:30  <V453000> -.-
10:46:33  <planetmaker> they're absolutely black legally
10:46:38  <planetmaker> just no one cares
10:46:58  <planetmaker> Read CS website and repeat your statement on that basis
10:47:00  <Ammler> yes, that was the whole initial reason for ogfx.
10:47:05  <XeryusTC> it is unclear who has the copyright to them, so they're in a legally gray area
10:47:11  <planetmaker> CS has. And he holds it.
10:47:14  <Ammler> TTD is not abandonware like a lot other old games
10:47:24  <planetmaker> He states that. And he claims that
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10:47:48  <planetmaker> Ammler, let them talk...
10:47:52  <Ammler> atari has just the right to sell TTD, they aren't copyright holders
10:47:54  * planetmaker goes on ignore now
10:48:00  <Ammler> sorry :-)
10:48:08  <V453000> my opinion: as long as the game works and we enjoy it playing, I think we can use some "not usual" (including "with few glitches") graphics ... as long as people who create maps use brain at least a little so people have fun, I see no reason for such things as banning anything :)
10:48:25  * V453000 ends. :)
10:48:34  * Ammler agrees
10:49:10  <Ammler> but you guys should also agree that opengfx is the default base set :-P
10:49:41  <XeryusTC> it has a higher chance of being used, yes
10:49:47  <Ammler> so the glitches should be with using original base set, not opposite
10:50:06  <V453000> ok Ammler, lets accept if for now
10:50:14  <V453000> but even with opengfx I didnt find it bad
10:50:17  <Ammler> for now and ever :-P
10:50:23  <V453000> I actually think this game looks better than with original
10:50:29  <V453000> thanks to the less visible farm fences
10:50:33  <XeryusTC> not really, as ogfx is relatively new and thus many newgrfs havent been able to go for compatibility
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10:50:49  <XeryusTC> V453000: it is good to debate on though ;)
10:50:58  <V453000> hehe
10:51:00  <XeryusTC> even though there will be no action taken on the point
10:51:16  <Ammler> and we can't delete alpine, also if we would like to.
10:51:37  <Ammler> the only grfs we could delete are statics
10:51:46  <V453000> the truth is: OpenGFX is drawn in COMPLETELY different style (which I consider bad) than all other graphics ... even if it doesnt glitch, in MANY cases it just looks bad and/or it doesnt fit into the rest
10:51:49  <Ammler> or such we never used
10:51:56  <XeryusTC> but there also is no reason to move it to obsolete based on graphics incompatibilty imo
10:52:19  <XeryusTC> obsolete is for newgrfs that aren't needed anymore but are kept for compatibility with old saves imo
10:52:38  <Ammler> yep, indeed
10:52:44  <PeterT> you guy smade planetmaker leave :-(
10:52:49  <XeryusTC> but alpine is also an industry newgrf and can influence gameplay in a way no other newgrf currently does
10:52:54  <Ammler> @kick PeterT go too
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10:53:02  <XeryusTC> @kick and stay away
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10:53:06  <XeryusTC> @kick PeterT  and stay away
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10:53:18  <XeryusTC> oh, too slow :(
10:53:31  <Ammler> :-)
10:53:33  <hylje> TOO SLOW
10:53:35  <hylje> slowpoke.
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10:53:58  <V453000> :-D
10:54:06  <XeryusTC> this would be a good moment to perm ban petert :P
10:54:11  <V453000> :D
10:54:14  <V453000> :D
10:54:15  <V453000> ye
10:54:23  <Ammler> no, he is our channel pet
10:54:48  <XeryusTC> i thought i was that :(
10:54:53  <V453000> lets just end the discussion with no results and agree that some graphic combinations just dont result very well but we can still have fun with them :)
10:54:54  <Ammler> or how is that called again
10:54:56  <V453000> pet :D rawr
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11:30:50  <XeryusTC> !players
11:30:52  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Client 203 (Orange) is XeryusTC, in company 1 (Yeti Transportation United)
11:30:58  <XeryusTC> !auto
11:30:58  <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has enabled autopause mode.
11:31:23  <XeryusTC> !rcon patch min_active_clients
11:31:23  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Current value for 'min_active_clients' is: '1' (min: 0, max: 255)
11:31:28  <XeryusTC> !rcon patch min_active_clients 2
11:31:28  <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players)
11:33:16  <Ammler> !auto does now use min_active_clients :-)
11:33:16  <PublicServer> *** Ammler has enabled autopause mode.
11:33:17  <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players)
11:33:59  <Ammler> hmm
11:34:13  <Ammler> !rcon set min_active_clients
11:34:13  <PublicServer> Ammler: Current value for 'min_active_clients' is: '1' (min: 0, max: 255)
11:34:24  <Ammler> !rcon set min_active_clients 2
11:34:25  <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players)
11:34:29  <Ammler> !rcon saveconfig
11:34:29  <PublicServer> Ammler: Saved config.
11:34:32  <Ammler> !auto
11:34:32  <PublicServer> *** Ammler has enabled autopause mode.
11:34:33  <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players)
11:34:45  <XeryusTC> Ammler: then !auto is wrong :P
11:34:46  <Ammler> !rcon set min_active_clients 2
11:34:46  <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players)
11:34:55  <XeryusTC> as there should be two people in the game to auto unpause
11:34:56  <Ammler> !rcon saveconfig
11:34:57  <PublicServer> Ammler: Saved config.
11:34:59  <Ammler> !reload config
11:34:59  <PublicServer> Ammler: config reloaded
11:35:03  <Ammler> !auto
11:35:03  <PublicServer> *** Ammler has enabled autopause mode.
11:35:08  <Ammler> ok :-)
11:35:21  <Ammler> somoene changed the cfg
11:37:56  <XeryusTC> !unpause
11:37:57  <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has unpaused the server. (Use !auto to set it back.)
11:37:58  <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players)
11:38:00  <XeryusTC> !rcon patch min_active_clients
11:38:00  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Current value for 'min_active_clients' is: '1' (min: 0, max: 255)
11:38:05  <XeryusTC> !auto
11:38:05  <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has enabled autopause mode.
11:38:06  <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players)
11:38:07  <XeryusTC> !rcon patch min_active_clients
11:38:07  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Current value for 'min_active_clients' is: '2' (min: 0, max: 255)
11:41:14  <Ammler> :-P
11:41:24  <KloBass> !info
11:41:24  <PublicServer> KloBass: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Yeti Transportation United'  Year Founded: 1950  Money: 47742495  Loan: 0  Value: 48028646  (T:0, R:6, P:8, S:0) unprotected
11:41:27  <KloBass> !status
11:41:30  <KloBass> !players
11:41:32  <PublicServer> KloBass: Client 203 (Orange) is XeryusTC, in company 1 (Yeti Transportation United)
11:41:53  <Ammler> if you use !unpause and quit, it would write the wrong value to the cfg
11:42:02  <Ammler> maybe we should start with -x
11:43:21  <Ammler> or we need to define a seperate entry in the cfg for autppilot
11:43:24  <XeryusTC> -x?
11:43:46  <XeryusTC> but ottd now has auto pausing, we should just use that feature
11:44:00  <XeryusTC> as !rcon pause and !rcon unpause influence it too :o
11:44:20  <Ammler> marcel@inspiron:~> ./svn/openttd/1.0/bundle/openttd -h | grep "\-x"
11:44:21  <Ammler>   -x                  = Do not automatically save to config file on exit
11:44:47  <XeryusTC> hmm, that would be a good option :P
11:44:53  <Ammler> XeryusTC: it isn't about pause, it is about unpause
11:45:14  <Ammler> unpause does change min_active_clients to 1
11:45:23  <XeryusTC> hmm
11:45:30  <XeryusTC> why not use the unpause command?
11:45:41  <Ammler> because if you use !rcon unpause and leave
11:45:45  <XeryusTC> or does that persist even when someone joins/leaves
11:45:48  <Ammler> the game would still continue
11:46:12  <Ammler> that should remind you of some old Mainserver games ;-)
11:46:38  <Ammler> where we used manual pause and sometimes forgot :-)
11:46:39  <XeryusTC> i know ;)
11:47:41  <Ammler> !rcon unpause
11:47:41  <PublicServer> Ammler: Game cannot be unpaused manually; disable pause_on_join/min_active_clients.
11:47:51  <Ammler> oh, wouldn't work anyway ^
11:48:37  <Ammler> !rcon pause
11:48:37  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players)
11:48:47  <Ammler> !auto
11:48:47  <PublicServer> *** Ammler has enabled autopause mode.
11:48:48  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
11:48:59  <Ammler> hehe
11:58:08  <Wouterr> !password
11:58:08  <PublicServer> Wouterr: ravage
11:58:15  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
11:58:15  <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players)
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12:06:55  <V453000> !password for me
12:06:56  <PublicServer> V453000: ravage
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12:07:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi :)
12:08:57  <Wouterr> hi
12:10:06  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> i am wondering how good BBH 03 will work
12:10:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> bad balancing ... or none
12:10:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> and there is a missing signal
12:11:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> cant say it will not work ... but lets see
12:11:22  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> true its bad balanced
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12:12:39  <pugi> !password
12:12:39  <PublicServer> pugi: mantle
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12:13:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
12:13:20  <PublicServer> <pug> woah
12:13:22  <PublicServer> <pug> storage :D
12:13:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> its not done yet
12:13:38  <PublicServer> <pug> looks massive :P
12:13:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> it has to be
12:14:21  <Wouterr> how many platforms does it have alredy?
12:14:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> 158 I think
12:14:39  <Wouterr> yikes
12:15:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> 157
12:15:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> we need many more
12:17:35  <Wouterr> hmm should i try to make the steel mill station?
12:17:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> sure :)
12:17:50  <Wouterr> scary :p
12:17:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> doesnt have to be
12:18:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think 20 platforms is just fine if you balance them
12:19:25  <Wouterr> yay balancing :p
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12:23:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok I need 60 more platforms :-D
12:23:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> to stay at least ok
12:25:21  <PublicServer> <pug> the track at sign "53" looks awesome :P
12:25:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> he
12:26:17  <PublicServer> <pug> even better now :D
12:26:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> now it even has all connections :)
12:27:00  <PublicServer> <pug> do you want to kill sennston? :(
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12:27:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
12:27:07  <PublicServer> <pug> ok
12:27:17  <PublicServer> <pug> but one platform is not connected
12:27:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> that stupid mine in the center would be enough
12:27:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh that
12:27:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes, just the one house will go down
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12:28:49  <PublicServer> <pug> you could still add a bunch of stations east of sennston with cl1 connections
12:28:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> I know
12:29:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> im still working on it
12:30:31  <KloBass> oh god
12:30:34  <KloBass> looks great
12:30:43  <V453000> :)
12:30:55  <KloBass> who designed winning network plan?
12:31:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> me
12:31:09  <PublicServer> <pug> who else? <.<
12:31:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh come on pug
12:31:19  <PublicServer> <pug> :D
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12:31:43  <PublicServer> <pug> too much water in this level :D
12:31:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> its fine :)
12:31:54  <phatmatt> !password
12:31:54  <PublicServer> phatmatt: tamely
12:31:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> fun at least
12:31:58  <KloBass> is it pax game? :)
12:32:02  <PublicServer> <pug> no
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12:32:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> :(
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12:33:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi :)
12:33:12  <PublicServer> <phatmatt> hey
12:36:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think I am facing an immortal mine
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12:42:10  <V453000> phe
12:42:13  <V453000> !password
12:42:13  <PublicServer> V453000: shrimp
12:42:42  * KloBass loves shrimps
12:43:11  <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost)
12:43:27  <hylje> mantis shrimps
12:43:34  <V453000> and I hate my internet >.<
12:43:40  <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost)
12:43:47  <V453000> gonna refresh router, brb
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12:46:09  <V453000> !password again?
12:46:10  <PublicServer> V453000: shrimp
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12:46:21  * KloBass still loves shrimps
12:46:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> :-D
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12:47:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> leaver! eat him
12:47:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> :P
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12:48:46  * KloBass ates pugi
12:49:02  * V453000 pets KloBass
12:49:03  <pugi> :O
12:49:19  * pugi throws a pokeball at V453000
12:49:21  * KloBass is not gay
12:49:31  <hylje> group hug time
12:49:33  <hylje> also, smugleaf
12:49:43  <V453000> :D
12:51:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> I would need an automatic counter of platforms
12:52:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> any slaves? :P
12:52:29  <KloBass> me me
12:52:30  <KloBass> pick me
12:52:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
12:52:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> you are just in IRC
12:52:41  <KloBass> ye
12:52:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> hard to count there
12:52:52  <KloBass> and also have no idea what are you talking about
12:52:53  <KloBass> :)))
12:53:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> im building a 200+ platform station
12:53:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> and need to know how many there actually are
12:53:21  <KloBass> why?
12:53:23  <hylje> use measurements
12:53:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> hylje: not here
12:53:38  <PublicServer> <phatmatt> I guess I have nothing better to do..
12:53:56  <PublicServer> <phatmatt> are the counts on the signs out of date?
12:53:57  <hylje> surely the platforms are grouped in like groups of 3
12:54:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> hold on phatmatt :) not yet
12:54:06  <PublicServer> <phatmatt> k
12:54:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think I am still about ok :)
12:54:19  <pugi> should be easy by dragging a track through them
12:54:28  <pugi> and then add the lengths
12:54:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> you just have to make everything simple >:(
12:54:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> :P
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13:01:42  <Vitus> !password
13:01:42  <PublicServer> Vitus: whiled
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13:02:11  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey
13:02:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
13:02:55  <PublicServer> <Vitus> The Storage is HUGE
13:02:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
13:03:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> (not yet) :P
13:03:09  <PublicServer> <Vitus> :D
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13:04:40  <KloBass> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBE8TSnRbVU
13:04:41  <KloBass> :-D
13:04:41  <Webster> Title: YouTube - RG-063 (at www.youtube.com)
13:04:42  <drachs> YouTube: 		RG-063
13:05:38  <V453000> wtf
13:06:01  <KloBass> :-D
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13:21:23  <KloBass> screenshot looks hellish
13:21:45  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Define hellish :D
13:22:49  <XeryusTC> !password
13:22:49  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: selves
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13:23:38  <KloBass> hellish - extremely evil or cruel; expressive of cruelty or befitting hell; "something demonic in him--something that could be cruel"; "fires lit up a diabolic scene"; "diabolical sorcerers under the influence of devils"; "a fiendish despot"; "hellish torture"; "infernal instruments of war"; "satanic cruelty"; "unholy grimaces"
13:24:04  <PublicServer> <Vitus> So.... stations in OTTD are evil? :D
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13:28:59  <V453000> btw guys
13:29:07  <V453000> you both are Czech :P
13:29:10  <V453000> if you dint know
13:29:16  * Mazur is not!
13:29:17  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Oh, well :D
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13:30:53  <PublicServer> <Vitus> I'll be rebuilding it anyhow
13:30:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok :)
13:31:05  <KloBass> V453000: you are czech too arent you?
13:31:05  <PublicServer> <Vitus> I realized I'd have merge before split on the other side
13:31:20  <V453000> KloBass: no im from hell
13:31:24  <KloBass> mkey
13:31:28  <KloBass> from london
13:31:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D no, from Liberec
13:31:40  <KloBass> but on ttdcoop there is czech flag
13:31:47  <PublicServer> <Vitus> And that isn't hell? :D
13:31:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
13:31:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> cold hell
13:32:04  <KloBass> bold hell
13:32:04  <PublicServer> <Vitus> The hell has frozen over
13:32:05  <KloBass> :-D
13:34:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> ;)
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13:34:28  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Nah, The prio is too long
13:34:36  <PublicServer> <Vitus> I'll just move the merge
13:34:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> hmm ok :)
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13:34:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> I ěould rather move to the other side
13:35:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> would
13:35:17  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Yeah, or this :D
13:35:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
13:35:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> moar compact :P
13:36:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> you had there gap of 6
13:36:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> now it is 5
13:36:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> should be ok :)
13:36:55  <KloBass> lol
13:37:00  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hmmm, I'm not so much worried about this side. But hopefully the prio on the other side will be OK
13:37:00  <KloBass> eould
13:37:04  <KloBass> with hacek
13:37:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> -.-
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13:37:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> its just above w
13:37:31  <KloBass> hh lol @czech keyboard
13:37:41  <PublicServer> <Vitus> What's wrong with czech keyboard? :D
13:37:57  <PublicServer> <Vitus> It's just QWERTZ with some more letters
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13:38:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> qwerty
13:38:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> :P
13:38:28  <KloBass> qertz/qwerty
13:38:33  <KloBass> both version
13:38:34  <KloBass> s
13:38:39  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Oh well
13:38:47  <KloBass> but eg | is kinda distant
13:38:48  <PublicServer> <Vitus> I have qwertz layout
13:39:01  <KloBass> and dont like it in czech kbd
13:39:03  <PublicServer> <Vitus> That's why I hate en keyboard layout, I got used to y/z position :D
13:39:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> Vitus: check proposal at the hub :P
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13:39:44  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Oh well :D
13:40:13  <KloBass> oh hai guise
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13:44:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
13:44:51  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Erm... right :D
13:44:56  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Not enough bridges, imho
13:45:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> is fine
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14:02:10  <Vitus> @gap 2
14:02:10  <Webster> Vitus: For Trainlength of 2: <= 8 needs 2, 9 - 12 needs 3, 13 - 16 needs 4.
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14:13:06  <KloBass> oh
14:13:07  <KloBass> snow
14:13:08  <KloBass> cool
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14:19:03  <PublicServer> Wouterr: gushes
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14:20:54  <Wouterr> hi
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14:50:48  <V453000> !password my ass
14:50:48  <PublicServer> V453000: debits
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14:54:11  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> we might want to finish BBH 2 so we can get some trains running
14:54:58  <PublicServer> * XeryusTC slaps V & V :P
14:55:08  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Wut?
14:55:24  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Oh, you mean V's crazy prio :D
14:55:32  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yeah
14:55:40  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> he deserves a nookie
14:56:14  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Or cookie?
14:56:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> :(
14:56:40  <PublicServer> <Vitus> What do you think about MSH 02? I think it should be fine... at least for now
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14:58:05  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> see !works the same
14:58:20  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Well, yeah. I considered that too
14:58:28  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> if you build a bridge like that then you dont need that ugly crossing
14:58:37  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> CL is short at the splitter though
14:58:50  <PublicServer> <Vitus> That's why I didn't build it like that
14:59:01  <PublicServer> <Vitus> And I didn't feel like rebuilding the merge again :D
14:59:22  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> fixed :P
15:00:31  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, the drop has overflows :o
15:00:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> its reversed
15:00:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> that should be pickup I suppose
15:00:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> the factory station is quite bad
15:00:59  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> very bad :P
15:01:33  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and i dont see why it'd need those pf traps
15:01:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> it doesnt :)
15:01:49  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> in the end the PF will pick the depots anyway
15:01:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> I know
15:01:54  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> well path through depot
15:01:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> thanks to the 2ways
15:02:00  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> even though they have +5k penalty :P
15:02:06  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> indeed
15:02:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think I encountered some case when it was needed
15:02:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> I dont remember when exactly though -.-
15:03:01  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Seems strange, though. I haven't had problem with two-way eol since...
15:03:07  <PublicServer> <Vitus> I figured out what it is :D
15:03:53  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> they're only EOL on the first signal anyway, so it shouldn't be too much of a problem when it passes every signal
15:05:50  <PublicServer> <Vitus> V can also build station with both conditional overflow and injection afaik
15:06:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> hm?
15:06:12  <PublicServer> <Vitus> I've seen it and it's pretty crazy-looking
15:06:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh this one
15:06:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> hehe
15:06:20  <PublicServer> <Vitus> I mean the one with tons of presignals
15:06:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> ye
15:07:02  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i doubt that the storage station will have any use though, could just as well just have been the pickup station :P
15:07:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
15:07:19  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Oh, the mine increases its production :DD
15:07:25  <PublicServer> <Vitus> *increased
15:07:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> XeryusTC: the pickup only sends trains when they are full
15:07:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> they need to be slowed down by something independent on that
15:08:04  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yes, but you've got massive buffering space anyway :P
15:08:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> hmm
15:08:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> there could be LOADS of trains
15:08:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> half a year is so long
15:08:49  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and the only thing you're doing is independently delaying loads of trains, what you want is to have them equally spread throughout the year
15:09:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes, thats it
15:09:19  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> the trains for factory should be build so that they just empty the station in the winter and have loads of cargo waiting in the summer
15:09:36  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Did I miss something about farm production over the course of year?
15:09:43  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> you dont need to delay trains for that, just build the correct amount, and possibly spread them properly
15:09:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> XeryusTC: lots of goods would dissapear
15:10:23  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> that's true, but the only thing you're doing is artificially lengthening the travel time of trains
15:10:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
15:10:33  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and not accounting for no production
15:10:51  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> you could basicly achieve the same thing with having less trains running around
15:11:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> I dont think so
15:11:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> these would be spread everywhere
15:11:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> this makes them go in winter mainly
15:12:04  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> you'll still have trains visiting in winter
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15:14:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> epic win
15:14:55  <PublicServer> <Vitus> gratz!
15:14:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> XeryusTC: you will . only thesteel goods
15:14:57  <PublicServer> <sonic> with no trains :D
15:15:17  <PublicServer> <Vitus> But we have TONS of infrastructure :D
15:15:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> not that much
15:15:37  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Compared to train count... yes, we do :D
15:17:25  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> our train count is currently quite close to nil :P
15:17:26  <Mazur> I was wondering how that farm in the Mid(?)-west was going to get its stuff on the ML between those two giant BBHs.
15:17:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> hehe
15:17:44  <Mazur> No room for a SLH there,
15:17:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> there is no farm actually
15:18:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> I ges it died
15:18:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> just like storage iron ore mineshould
15:18:30  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Strange, that many farms died already, but SOME *cough* mines are still OK
15:20:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> wut :)
15:20:40  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> someone should finish bbh2 :o
15:20:47  <Arkenklo> !password
15:20:47  <PublicServer> Arkenklo: douses
15:20:48  <Mazur> There _was_ loads of farmed land west of BBH02 and another BBH, but I confess not actually having located the farm they belonged to.
15:20:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> I would only bomb all of it
15:20:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> and start again
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15:21:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> this is imo terrible
15:21:04  <Arkenklo> sup dawgs
15:21:05  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> V453000: can do that too :P
15:21:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
15:21:11  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> as long as we can get some stuff running :P
15:21:24  <Mazur> Hi, Arkenklo.
15:21:34  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Yeah, right. But do we have some useable drop?
15:21:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> lol :D
15:21:48  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Factory drop will need rebuild anyways
15:21:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
15:24:25  <PublicServer> <Arkenklo> holy crap, that's a lot of  platforms
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15:27:43  <PublicServer> <Intexon> hello
15:27:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
15:27:46  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey
15:30:11  <PublicServer> <Vitus> I'm going off. See you later
15:30:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> cya
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15:39:38  <PublicServer> <Arkenklo> we could either build a massive enormous storage station, or, we could, you know, just put a depot
15:39:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> no we cant
15:39:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> you cant tell a train how long to wait in the depot
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15:40:32  <PublicServer> <Arkenklo> but you can make trains only leave with full load, that way trains will stop at the station when no production occurs, and the rest will wait for their turn in the depot
15:40:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> that is an overflow already applied on the pickup
15:41:08  <Zaitzev> !password
15:41:08  <PublicServer> Zaitzev: teases
15:41:21  <PublicServer> <Arkenklo> yeah, that will automatically dose out the trains as they are needed
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15:41:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes and that is not enough :)
15:41:34  <PublicServer> <Zaitzev> the hell D:
15:41:40  <PublicServer> <Arkenklo> capacity wise?
15:41:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
15:41:45  <PublicServer> <Arkenklo> I don't see what you mean
15:41:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> trains pick up goods
15:41:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> then they go here
15:42:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> and wait here for 6 months
15:42:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> to mirror the traffic from farms and the traffic of goods
15:42:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> into winter = summer
15:42:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> about
15:42:26  <PublicServer> <Arkenklo> hmm
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15:42:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> clear now? :)
15:43:26  <PublicServer> <Arkenklo> so that the half of the year that farms don't produce anything, we make factories produce instead?
15:43:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
15:43:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> factories produce at the same time as farms deliver
15:43:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> you cant change tha
15:43:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> intexon: wtf, overflow on a DROP?
15:44:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> Arkenklo: we basically make goods trains go in winter, farm trains in summer
15:44:24  <PublicServer> <Intexon> oups
15:44:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> kind of
15:46:43  <PublicServer> <Arkenklo> I still don't quite get it, but I probably will when I see it in action
15:46:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> farm trains go in? summer.
15:47:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> when would normally go goods trains? in summer too
15:47:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> what would it cause?
15:47:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> summer jam! =D
15:47:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> so we delay goods trains so that they go in winter
15:47:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> what will that cause? balance
15:48:19  <PublicServer> <Arkenklo> so farm (summer) -> factory (summer) -> storage (until winter) -> towns (winter)
15:48:21  <PublicServer> <Arkenklo> correct?
15:48:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
15:48:30  <PublicServer> <Arkenklo> yay for me :D
15:48:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> it will be funny ... at least :d
15:49:10  <PublicServer> <sonic> but what happens if they deliver in winter. won't there then be a lack of goods?
15:49:10  <PublicServer> <Arkenklo> won't storing the trains for half a year cause massive profit losses?
15:49:21  <PublicServer> <Arkenklo> or will the goods decay until we can pick them up?
15:49:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> sonic: they wont
15:49:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> Arkenklo: who cares about profit
15:49:39  <Ammler> how do you buffer the trains? depots?
15:49:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> if we wouldnt pick them up, hey would dissapear
15:49:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> Ammler: dont even want to know :P
15:50:12  <PublicServer> <Arkenklo> ammler: look at "DIE YOU BITCH"
15:50:30  <Ammler> mäh, need to compile first :-)
15:51:10  <snc> !screen 0x7210
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15:51:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> I need some volunteer
15:51:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> I need to count hwo many platforms are there that DONT have a house
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15:54:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh noes
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15:55:10  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> hmm, I should connect that ore mine :-)
15:55:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> dont you dare :D
15:55:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> it seems to be immortal anyways
15:55:26  <PublicServer> <Arkenklo> that's what V453000 has been doing
15:55:53  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> maybe alpine feature?
15:56:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> idk
15:56:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> I know only about farms
15:56:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> you are the grf specialist :P
15:56:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> but many many other iron ore mines died already
15:56:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> so I think it is just OpenTTD feature "the most fucked up obstacles never die"
15:57:17  <PublicServer> <Arkenklo> propability of removal = -amount of nearby track
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15:58:34  <PublicServer> <Arkenklo> so the ore mine just popped up from nowhere?
15:58:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> it was there already
15:58:47  <PublicServer> <Arkenklo> k
15:59:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> I could lie and say it destroyed my tracks as it came fron the underground :)
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16:02:54  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Finford Farm
16:05:30  <PublicServer> <phatmatt> V453000: 112
16:05:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> wow
16:05:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> thank you
16:05:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> thats awsom :)
16:05:57  <PublicServer> <phatmatt> i hope it's not meant to be 113 as on the sign :P
16:06:00  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Storage platforms?
16:06:13  <Wouterr> !password
16:06:14  <PublicServer> Wouterr: seated
16:06:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> phatmatt: 112 without houses, 113 with houses?
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16:06:34  <PublicServer> <phatmatt> didn't count the housed ones, but 112 without, yes
16:07:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> then now it is 113-113
16:07:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> awsom :)
16:07:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> thx
16:07:10  <PublicServer> <phatmatt> yay
16:10:02  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> back
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16:15:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok
16:15:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> dinner time
16:15:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> I will finish it when I come :)
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16:15:35  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> where is your dedication to this game!
16:15:43  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> eat dinner behind your pc :P
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16:15:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
16:15:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> I cant hotkey that way :(
16:16:20  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> you'd better train your telepathic skill during dinner then so you can next time
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16:16:58  <Mazur> ~\o/~
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16:18:06  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> muochos water
16:18:15  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yes
16:18:22  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> oh, snowing
16:18:38  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> again, yes
16:18:57  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> you forgot the yexo airports newgrf
16:19:20  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> complain to who made the map :P
16:19:35  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> this is coop
16:19:44  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> everyone is quilty :-P
16:20:01  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> well, why didnt you load it then!
16:20:13  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> you're also in charge of the technical stuff behind the servers ;)
16:20:24  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> so you're more responsible by your own standard
16:20:30  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> :-P
16:21:43  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> I am looking forward to see this in action :-)
16:21:53  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> go fix bbh2 then :P
16:22:05  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> snowline is bit high, imo
16:22:16  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it varies
16:22:23  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it disapears after april
16:22:28  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> there are farms working also on winter
16:22:49  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> that's a good thing imo :P
16:23:06  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> less of a mindfuck to account for imo
16:23:55  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> actually it is hard to find a farm which closed
16:24:07  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> see Frinford :P
16:24:37  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> and Sedingbury
16:24:43  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> 3 farms?
16:25:08  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> seems so
16:25:20  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but most industries have disapeared once again
16:25:31  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> in ye olde days we used to be faster iirc
16:25:45  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> the map is bad for alpine game
16:25:54  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> why?
16:26:10  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> because the re is almost no snow area
16:26:33  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> well, you will see...
16:26:43  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> well, there is alot of water
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16:33:43  <PublicServer> <Arkenklo> what function does all the circles and stuff by the storage have?
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16:40:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> Amm1er: Yexo Airports?
16:40:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> dont know these :)
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16:53:07  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> town drop done
16:53:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> looks awesome :)
16:53:31  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> nice
16:53:59  <Mazur> Kitchen sink unplugged.
16:54:09  <Mazur> Hm, I should write a song for that.
16:54:12  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> now available on cd near you
16:54:20  <Mazur> Hi5 X.
16:54:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> lets get hi
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16:56:35  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> coal drop done also, but not verry well balanced :(
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17:02:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> öh fuck yeah
17:02:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> done
17:02:37  <PublicServer> <Arkenklo> lol @ all the bridges
17:04:30  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> wow, almost all industries are gone :o
17:04:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> ye
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17:06:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think BR182 gate is faster
17:06:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> hm maybe not
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17:07:58  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i wonder if this train will be able to find its way with an incomplete bbh 2 :P
17:08:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> lez see
17:08:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> you forgot to refit :)
17:08:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> these are IO by default :)
17:09:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> it should find the path
17:10:31  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> ofcourse xD
17:11:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> BTW
17:11:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> we havent been playing DB set since 174 and there we had pax only
17:11:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> what a shame
17:11:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> I really love to see it again :)
17:11:35  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> we've played alot of DBset in the past
17:11:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> I know
17:11:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> its the best imo :)
17:12:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> Wouterr: can I make a proposal? :)
17:12:31  <Wouterr> sure
17:12:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> see this:
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17:13:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> this works perfectly
17:13:05  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> yes
17:13:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> and I added some braking space :)
17:13:35  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> to wahat?
17:13:38  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> yea but now the acelerating space is gone
17:13:43  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> why do we have a ship?
17:13:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> you dont need that
17:13:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh wtf
17:14:02  <V453000> !rcon set max_ships 0
17:14:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> limit set to 0 XeryusTC
17:14:21  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> good
17:15:09  <Arkenklo> My yacht! D:
17:15:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> there he goes :)
17:15:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> gulty!
17:15:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> +i
17:15:35  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> yay first train :)
17:16:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> epic first train coming
17:17:21  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> its going to make a huge detour around BBH02
17:17:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> ye
17:17:27  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yes
17:17:34  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and then its going to use the factory to turn around :P
17:17:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> kinda sightseeing train
17:18:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think now the driver says wtf
17:18:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> at the hub :)
17:18:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> "hub"
17:19:22  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i think that the PF says wtf at the network in general
17:19:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> hehe
17:19:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> hahaaaa
17:19:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> sideways prio visited
17:19:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> good sightseeing
17:20:21  <PublicServer> <Arkenklo> "and to our right we see two massive bridges leading nowhere"
17:20:42  <PublicServer> <Arkenklo> woo, first dollars earned!
17:20:55  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> where did the other 96 mil come from then?
17:21:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> hehe
17:21:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> hax
17:21:36  <PublicServer> <Arkenklo> I can make them disappear if that's what you're asking'
17:22:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> and here dear passengers we just met some signal gaps :)
17:22:32  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, it can use the same way back :D
17:22:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
17:22:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
17:23:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> wouterr built the station that way _
17:23:05  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> nope its stuck
17:23:12  <PublicServer> <Arkenklo> "wtf"
17:23:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> now you are pwned dear passengers
17:23:33  <Wouterr> oh right BBH03 doesnt support change direction :p
17:23:40  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> there's only two guys on the train :P
17:23:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> wouterr:  it doesnt need to
17:24:05  <PublicServer> <Arkenklo> they've probably gone insane from the trip and thinks their train is full of passengers
17:24:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> if hey come from the east, they should also return to the east :)
17:24:14  <Wouterr> indeed, should be fixed when BBH02 is finished
17:24:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> yep
17:25:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> btw
17:25:12  <PublicServer> <Arkenklo> unbalanced bridge up ahead
17:25:14  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> going to be fun finishing a BBH with trains passing
17:25:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> 8 platforms for factory drop is ridiculous
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17:25:43  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> indeed :P
17:26:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> XeryusTC: the original idea of town drop was that it has also access from the south
17:26:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> so wood and oil goods dont stress BBH01
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17:28:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> but I think we can leave it as it is now
17:28:38  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> BBH1 is faster though
17:28:41  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i recon
17:31:37  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yay, production increased
17:31:40  <Wouterr> btw what do the logic trains at storage do?
17:31:41  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> by 25%! :D
17:33:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> Wouterr: balance all incoming trains into platforms equally
17:33:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> regardless from which of the 3 lanes they come
17:34:22  <Wouterr> looking forward to see it in action
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17:35:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> I have built a similar thing already in psg 179
17:35:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> The Hypnotizer :)))
17:35:41  <nighthawk_c_m> Cargodist acts weird
17:35:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> cargodist sucks. move on :)
17:37:18  <nighthawk_c_m> sorry wrong channel :-/
17:37:30  <V453000> I know :)
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18:07:38  <Vitus> !password
18:07:39  <PublicServer> Vitus: lizard
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18:08:01  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey
18:08:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> hy
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18:13:41  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Isn't BBH 03 rather MSH than BBH?
18:13:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> indeed
18:14:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> and MSH 01 is rather BBH
18:17:22  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> still no work on bbh2 huh?
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18:17:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> I would only bomb it all and start again
18:19:23  <PublicServer> <Vitus> I kinda expected the author to show up and finish it
18:20:38  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i guess he's not coming in soon
18:22:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> how  many days does OpenTTD year have?
18:22:46  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> 365 and it has a leap year
18:22:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> 30 days per month :)
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18:24:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> shit
18:24:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> hmm
18:24:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> so how many days is a half year? :D
18:24:27  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> about 180 :P
18:24:28  <PublicServer> <Vitus> 182.5?
18:24:38  <V453000> @calc 365/2
18:24:38  <Webster> V453000: 182.5
18:24:44  <PublicServer> <Vitus> YEAH
18:24:45  <V453000> plus the leap
18:24:46  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but farms only stop producing when they're above snowline
18:25:02  <V453000> which isss .... 0.25 day per year, right?
18:25:11  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yes
18:25:21  <Vitus> I doubt it can do something like this:
18:25:25  <V453000> 182.75
18:25:34  <Vitus> @calc lim x->0 sin(x)/x
18:25:39  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Too bad
18:25:44  <PublicServer> <Vitus> :D
18:25:53  <V453000> -.-
18:26:33  <hylje> TOO BAD IT'S ME
18:26:41  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Blacksmith?
18:26:42  <V453000> @calc 74*182.75
18:26:43  <Webster> V453000: 13523.5
18:26:46  <V453000> fuck this
18:26:59  <hylje> someone's been playing HoN
18:27:09  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Nah, my bro does :D
18:27:13  <V453000> :D yes why hylje
18:27:28  <hylje> it's a catchphrase from out there
18:27:37  <V453000> oh
18:27:43  <V453000> didnt see notice that one :)
18:27:48  <V453000> -see
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18:29:46  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> bah, no replacement of the maglev tiles :s
18:29:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> I kno
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18:30:45  <Thraxian|Work> !dl win32
18:30:45  <PublicServer> Thraxian|Work: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19821/openttd-trunk-r19821-windows-win32.zip
18:31:50  <Thraxian|Work> !password
18:31:51  <PublicServer> Thraxian|Work: lashes
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18:31:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> hey
18:32:02  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey
18:32:04  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> howdy
18:32:41  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> what's with "STORAGE"?
18:32:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> iron ore mine pickup
18:33:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> that one in the centre
18:33:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> ... it just stores full goods trains for half year
18:33:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> so goods trains go in winter while there are less farm trains
18:33:54  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> that seems....efficient....
18:35:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh I see somebody already grouped trainyard for me :D
18:35:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> thx
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18:37:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> hahahahahahahah dying
18:37:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> 48 prod
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18:55:15  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> bah, wrong button xD
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20:32:09  <ralph09> !password
20:32:09  <PublicServer> ralph09: visaed
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20:42:57  <Ammler> fonsinchen: why did you get op here?
20:43:29  <fonsinchen> I don't think so. I'm op in openttdcoop.dev
20:43:52  <fonsinchen> Ah, no. I'm op here, too
20:43:56  <Ammler> hehe
20:43:57  <fonsinchen> Something must be wrong
20:44:06  <Ammler> some misstyping then :-)
20:44:35  <Ammler> @deop fonsinchen
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20:44:54  <PeterT> lol
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20:48:07  <V453000> hey SmatZ
20:48:10  <V453000> :)
20:48:15  <PublicServer> <SmatZ> hello V453000
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22:32:33  <XeryusTC> !password
22:32:34  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: hellos
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22:38:36  <KyleS> !password
22:38:36  <PublicServer> KyleS: hellos
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22:38:45  <KyleS> o hai publicserver
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22:53:11  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh hello
22:56:33  <KyleS> hello
22:57:34  <KyleS> sorry, i'm afk now, going out to unlock someone's car :-P
22:58:06  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> bah, stupid snowline going up just after i build the first farm station :o
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23:00:37  <V453000> !password
23:00:37  <PublicServer> V453000: caress
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23:01:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> o/
23:01:10  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hello
23:02:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> no factoreeyyy
23:03:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> :) ok now we have one
23:03:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> ugh
23:03:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> :X
23:03:27  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> now there is
23:03:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> I was first :D
23:03:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> we got 2 btw :P
23:04:14  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> well, whatever :P
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23:04:23  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> the trains still cost of loads of money though :s
23:04:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> ye :)
23:04:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> that wont change much :)
23:06:51  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm
23:06:58  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i think this is a sub optimal solution :o
23:07:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> ?
23:07:22  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> Sedingbury Heights
23:08:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> ooh :)
23:08:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> I rather make 2 separate overflows
23:08:20  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> working on that ;)
23:08:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
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23:09:57  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> construct additional trains xD
23:10:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> pylons too
23:10:35  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and let the rest transport it in winter :P
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23:13:16  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> winter has come :D
23:13:21  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> time to transport excess :P
23:13:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> now we are fucked
23:13:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
23:13:48  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it has cost almost all our money to build those trains :o
23:14:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> of course :)
23:14:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> DB set magic :)
23:14:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> I like that
23:14:28  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm
23:14:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> it makes you slower to expand
23:14:32  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> those trains only earn 30k :o
23:14:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> but low running costs make it cool :)
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23:14:47  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> will take a lot of time to compensate for their huge cost
23:15:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> indeed
23:15:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> planes will add something too
23:15:07  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> ~70 mil in total :o
23:15:37  <theholyduck> !password
23:15:37  <PublicServer> theholyduck: harems
23:15:41  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> only 24k on livestock
23:15:45  <theholyduck> HAREMS?
23:15:46  <theholyduck> :P
23:15:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi duck
23:15:55  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> 38k on grain
23:15:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> you got stuff to get done :P
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23:16:21  <theholyduck> am aware
23:16:23  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i think i need to build more trains
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23:16:26  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> livestock mostly
23:16:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> agree
23:16:40  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> oh, my junction is half life
23:16:41  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> grain is fine
23:16:47  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> err.
23:17:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> rather 10%life :)
23:17:01  <PublicServer> * theholyduck has to signal his junction
23:17:02  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> added 5 more livestock trains
23:17:05  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> befoore its even built
23:17:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> lets get some steel running?
23:18:09  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> lag...
23:18:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> where
23:19:01  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm
23:19:17  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> apparently trains like to go through the depots before going to the station :o
23:19:29  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, waypoint messed up :o
23:19:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh lol
23:19:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> why the PBS btw
23:20:02  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> red 2 ways
23:20:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> ooh
23:20:27  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> dont think it works though :o
23:20:32  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> ok, now that my junction is fixed for 2 lines in 1 direction
23:20:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> it should
23:20:35  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i think its time to BUILD it :P
23:20:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> duh
23:20:45  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> go away winter come here trains
23:20:56  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> leave pbs :(
23:20:57  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> who the hell puts trains through a non signaled junction?
23:21:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> we do
23:21:10  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> ;D
23:21:10  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> impatience
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23:21:29  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> oh, forgot to signal it the other way
23:21:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh wtf lolzor :D
23:21:37  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> -60mil train costs, +3mil income xD
23:21:50  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> at this rate it will take 30-40 years for those trains to earn themselves back :o
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23:24:23  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> ok, it does need even more trains :o
23:24:36  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> let me fix my junction first
23:24:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> TL2 power :)
23:24:40  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, jam
23:24:50  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> well you put trains on my non signaled line
23:24:59  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> ffs, keep trains running :P
23:25:15  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> can also just make a bypass :P
23:25:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> just let duck suffer :)
23:25:48  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> its lagging bad
23:25:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> I have no lag
23:26:10  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> my livestock overflow is not working :(
23:28:00  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> there, its now signaled in both directions
23:28:05  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> now, to make it a full junction
23:28:17  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 000005C3: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000005C3.png
23:28:17  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> good
23:28:25  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> my underserviced station will get some trains again then :D
23:28:39  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> also, it just had 666 tonnes of grain waiting
23:29:28  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and winter has come :D
23:30:06  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> what does all the logic gates infront of the storage do?
23:30:10  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> fore trains in at certain times?
23:30:14  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> *force
23:30:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> distribute them into all platforms equally
23:30:30  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> ah
23:30:40  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> that mine just wont die eh
23:31:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> they are equally split into two halves of 113 plats each
23:31:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes that is a bitch >:(
23:31:13  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> disconnect the platforms to that entrence
23:31:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> goods running?
23:31:41  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> not yet
23:31:48  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> might as well just get them to run :P
23:31:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> we could
23:31:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> might make some $
23:32:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> (in about 30 years going into profit :D)
23:32:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> 4 goods trains on the way
23:32:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> that wont be enough :)
23:34:06  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> station almost drained in february :D
23:34:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> he
23:34:24  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i should go to bed
23:34:29  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> alarm is set to 6:45
23:34:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> awful
23:34:37  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i planned to go over an hour ago
23:34:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> I know that :)
23:35:00  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> stupid ottd
23:35:04  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it messes with your life man
23:35:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> dont tell me :-D
23:36:58  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> almost production again :D
23:37:02  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i can remove my error then :D
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23:37:28  <shalkaii> ahoy everyone, i'm rather new, just looking for a tutor if anyone does that
23:37:41  <shalkaii> i know the basics but am looking to up my game.
23:37:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
23:37:57  <shalkaii> I heard the coop folks are pro's :]
23:37:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> welcome among the mad :)
23:38:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> join us on the server :) best way to learn
23:38:18  <shalkaii> :] I feel at home already
23:38:26  <shalkaii> kinda nervous to do so XD
23:38:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> or if you want some of your stuff commented, send me an email with a save ;)
23:38:49  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> well, just join the channel and post signs,
23:38:51  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> 'server
23:38:56  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> and post signs and ask questions
23:39:04  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> most people are generally happy to help
23:39:32  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> we only eat newbies at xmass
23:40:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> also on easter and during the year
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23:41:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> lag? :)
23:41:32  <theholyduck> !password
23:41:32  <PublicServer> theholyduck: harmed
23:41:34  <theholyduck> and yeah.
23:42:03  <theholyduck> my internet seems to object a bit
23:42:03  <theholyduck> though its mostly a linux problem
23:42:05  <theholyduck> i could try booting the windows box
23:42:13  <PublicServer> *** theholyduck joined the game
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23:42:56  <theholyduck> hmm.
23:42:58  <shalkaii> wheres the details for the public server again?
23:43:09  <V453000> !url
23:43:09  <PublicServer> V453000: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/
23:43:12  <V453000> @quickstart
23:43:14  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart
23:43:17  <V453000> be sure to read through this
23:43:19  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00000DC7: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00000DC7.png
23:43:34  <theholyduck> if you have the grf pack and !dl osofchoice and know how to operate bananas
23:43:35  <theholyduck> its easy enough
23:43:39  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> deleted some grain trains
23:43:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> kk
23:43:53  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and i think i can remove even more in winter :P
23:43:59  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> as most trains were jammed before :o
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23:45:06  <theholyduck> ok, i'll be back after a reboot
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23:46:10  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh lol
23:46:22  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> trains wait all summer to load, and then it gets winter and the station is full of waiting cargo xD
23:46:27  <theholyduck> just going to copy some music over to the windose partition firsts
23:46:51  <shalkaii> what stable are you guys using?
23:46:58  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> nightly
23:46:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> -.-
23:47:05  <XeryusTC> @tell shalkaii about !dl
23:47:07  <shalkaii> okay ^^
23:47:15  <XeryusTC> bah :P
23:47:17  <shalkaii> !dl
23:47:17  <PublicServer> shalkaii: !dl autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|win32|win64|win9x
23:47:30  <shalkaii> win64
23:47:31  <shalkaii> uh
23:47:33  <shalkaii> XD
23:47:38  <XeryusTC> use !dl win64
23:47:43  <shalkaii> !dl win64
23:47:43  <PublicServer> shalkaii: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19821/openttd-trunk-r19821-windows-win64.zip
23:47:51  <PublicServer> <KyleS> there aren't many industries :s
23:47:59  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> as always ;)
23:48:11  <PublicServer> <KyleS> seems like there are less..i dunno tho
23:48:29  <theholyduck> small map
23:48:35  <theholyduck> spawn some moar when we get goingk
23:48:48  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> need a better income first :P
23:48:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> maybe :)
23:49:04  <theholyduck> well income should have shot up when i half fixed my junction
23:49:06  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> still only 3mil income in a year
23:49:31  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> fix the other half too, so coal and ore trains can take th eproper routes
23:49:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> your junction wont change anything almost :)
23:49:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> iron ore and coal arent much dependant on deliver times
23:50:08  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it still has an influence though
23:50:17  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and it takes more trains in general
23:50:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> true
23:50:26  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> although that only holds true for Sedingbury mines i guess
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23:51:48  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> these farms create incredible wave traffic btw :s
23:51:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> indeed
23:52:13  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> especially at my station, one farm producing 720/month
23:52:20  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> so it just keeps sending trains on the ML
23:52:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> ye
23:52:38  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> the traffic from that SLH only is quite dense already
23:53:11  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i think it accounts for 1/8th or 1/6th of one ML lane already
23:53:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> we wil have to be careful about farms
23:53:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> and I spammed a few more goods trains
23:53:45  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i think i will remove some more trains so less cargo gets transported before winter
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23:57:25  <shalkaii> !password
23:57:25  <PublicServer> shalkaii: snider
23:57:53  <shalkaii> is this a cooperative game should I join yeti ?
23:57:54  <shalkaii> or
23:58:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> of course
23:58:21  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0001F115: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001F115.png
23:58:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> what do you think means the "coop"
23:58:38  <shalkaii> OH!
23:58:39  <shalkaii> X3
23:58:40  <shalkaii> sorry
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23:59:17  <shalkaii> hih
23:59:19  <shalkaii> huh
23:59:28  <shalkaii> I put in the password it said, but it came up wrong password
23:59:36  <KyleS> pass changes
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23:59:57  <shalkaii> !pass
23:59:58  <Keyboard_Warrior> ..
23:59:59  <shalkaii> !passowrd

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