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00:01:16 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 00:07:32 *** mixrin has quit IRC 00:09:18 <VVG> i obviously got the fail-safe part totally wrong :( 00:20:35 *** benom has quit IRC 00:22:16 *** Benom has joined #openttdcoop 00:36:47 *** Fuco has quit IRC 01:26:59 *** Seberoth2 has quit IRC 01:45:24 *** Ramsus08191 has joined #openttdcoop 02:27:29 *** murr6y has joined #openttdcoop 02:32:27 *** murr5y has quit IRC 03:04:47 *** gr00vy has quit IRC 03:04:51 *** gr00vy has joined #openttdcoop 04:05:59 *** gnemonix has joined #openttdcoop 04:13:21 *** gnemo has quit IRC 04:20:03 *** gnemonix has quit IRC 04:24:52 *** Phazorx has joined #openttdcoop 04:24:52 *** Webster sets mode: +o Phazorx 05:05:04 *** V4530000 has joined #openttdcoop 05:05:53 *** Ammller has joined #openttdcoop 05:05:53 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Ammller 05:06:14 *** _ccfreak2k has joined #openttdcoop 05:07:21 *** ewanm89_ has joined #openttdcoop 05:07:49 *** ccfreak2k has quit IRC 05:07:49 *** Cap_J_L_Picard has quit IRC 05:07:49 *** V453000 has quit IRC 05:07:49 *** Ammler has quit IRC 05:07:49 *** V4530000 is now known as V453000 05:07:49 *** Ammller is now known as Ammler 05:07:49 *** ewanm89_ is now known as Cap_J_L_Picard 05:23:03 *** waterfoul has joined #openttdcoop 05:27:11 <waterfoul> any suggestions on how to make this run smoother? http://img.openttdcoop.org/images/scr1mhm.png 05:27:15 *** De_Ghosty has joined #openttdcoop 05:27:48 <waterfoul> I am out of ideas :( 05:30:25 <waterfoul> I'll go ask in #openttd, there are more people there 05:35:16 *** De_Ghosty has quit IRC 05:36:11 *** De_Ghosty has joined #openttdcoop 05:41:51 *** Yso has joined #openttdcoop 05:48:48 *** _ccfreak2k is now known as ccfreak2k 06:36:33 *** mixrin has joined #openttdcoop 06:37:28 *** ^Spike^ has joined #openttdcoop 06:37:28 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ^Spike^ 06:58:05 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 07:10:32 *** Yso has quit IRC 07:31:58 *** mixrin has quit IRC 07:40:47 <Ammler> Phoenix_the_II: tcllib is missing 07:53:37 <Mazur> waterfoul: For one thing, get rid of all the too short curves. 07:55:08 <Mazur> waterfoul: Secondly, double the bridge. 07:56:16 <Mazur> and tunnels. 08:11:07 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 08:31:10 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop 08:31:10 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 08:34:35 *** Intexon has joined #openttdcoop 08:35:22 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 08:50:08 *** V453000 has quit IRC 08:50:08 *** Ammler has quit IRC 08:50:08 *** Hirundo has quit IRC 08:55:31 *** Phazorx has left #openttdcoop 08:56:23 *** Hirundo has joined #openttdcoop 08:58:01 *** Ammler has joined #openttdcoop 08:58:01 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Ammler 08:59:23 *** V453000 has joined #openttdcoop 08:59:23 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o V453000 09:14:31 *** mrruben5 has joined #openttdcoop 09:19:26 *** Intexon has quit IRC 09:19:28 *** mixrin has joined #openttdcoop 09:19:44 *** Intexon has joined #openttdcoop 09:20:31 *** mixrin has quit IRC 09:39:43 *** murr6y is now known as murr4y 09:42:44 *** mrruben5 has left #openttdcoop 09:57:24 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 09:57:24 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 09:58:52 *** elmz has joined #openttdcoop 10:05:52 *** thgergo has joined #openttdcoop 10:12:02 *** a has joined #openttdcoop 10:12:16 *** a has left #openttdcoop 10:21:17 *** Yso has joined #openttdcoop 10:26:35 *** Intexon has quit IRC 10:26:53 *** sharpy has joined #openttdcoop 10:27:11 *** sharpy has quit IRC 10:35:16 <BloodyRain2k> !password 10:35:37 <BloodyRain2k> seems like its still down :o was wondering how far the network was 10:35:40 *** ODM has quit IRC 10:40:34 *** Phazorx has joined #openttdcoop 10:40:34 *** Webster sets mode: +o Phazorx 10:44:51 *** Seppel has joined #openttdcoop 10:46:15 *** Phazorx has left #openttdcoop 10:53:59 *** theholyduck has quit IRC 10:54:56 *** theholyduck has joined #openttdcoop 10:56:45 *** heffer has joined #openttdcoop 11:01:37 <Yso> BloodyRain2k, i think the game is still in the voting & planning phase 11:08:44 *** Vitus has joined #openttdcoop 11:15:28 *** Phazorx has joined #openttdcoop 11:15:28 *** Webster sets mode: +o Phazorx 11:16:47 *** Fuco has joined #openttdcoop 11:16:50 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Fuco 11:19:35 *** elmz_ has joined #openttdcoop 11:27:03 *** Phazorx has left #openttdcoop 11:27:27 *** elmz has quit IRC 11:46:51 *** Barbaar has joined #openttdcoop 11:51:30 *** Phazorx has joined #openttdcoop 11:51:30 *** Webster sets mode: +o Phazorx 11:52:21 *** fmauNeko has joined #openttdcoop 11:52:47 <fmauNeko> Hey 11:52:58 *** heffer has quit IRC 11:53:45 <Ammler> STAGE: SERVER DOWN FOR MAINTENANCE 12:12:41 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop 12:18:59 <Phoenix_the_II> Ammler 12:19:00 <Phoenix_the_II> done 12:19:54 <Ammler> Phoenix_the_II: the file properities get lost :-( 12:20:18 <Ammler> maybe you could run a chown openttd over our files? 12:20:27 <Phoenix_the_II> sure 12:20:43 <Phoenix_the_II> they look all openttd'ed 12:21:07 <Ammler> example: ~/svn-public/autopilot/web 12:21:44 <Ammler> or ~/website 12:22:19 <Phoenix_the_II> ah 12:22:27 <Phoenix_the_II> thats a other directory outside /home 12:22:28 <Phoenix_the_II> :) 12:22:44 <Phoenix_the_II> done 12:23:33 <Ammler> Phoenix_the_II: expect installed? 12:23:43 <Phoenix_the_II> y 12:23:45 <Ammler> hmm 12:25:21 <Ammler> http://pastebin.com/vyGNDQms 12:25:49 <Phoenix_the_II> tcl 8.5? 12:26:00 <Phoenix_the_II> retry 12:27:10 <Ammler> ah 12:27:21 <Ammler> need to compile openttd again 12:27:24 <Ammler> libs have changed 12:27:32 <Phoenix_the_II> 2 secs ill install build-dep 12:27:55 <Ammler> and curl 12:27:56 <Ammler> and svn 12:28:02 <Phoenix_the_II> lol 12:28:05 <Phoenix_the_II> openttd aint in the repo 12:28:06 <Ammler> :-) 12:28:18 <Ammler> no need 12:28:28 <Ammler> debian would have acient version anyway 12:29:09 <fmauNeko> Lenny still have OpenTTD 0.6.2 :p 12:29:14 <OwenS> Ammler: You should clone the git or hg repo. Significantly faster :P 12:29:19 <Phoenix_the_II> build-dep = build dependencies 12:29:22 <Phoenix_the_II> libraries... 12:29:36 <Ammler> you know, which? 12:30:00 <fmauNeko> Is the contrib repo enabled ? 12:30:25 <Ammler> gcc-c++ 12:30:33 <Ammler> libpng-devel 12:30:39 <Ammler> zlib-devel 12:30:56 <Ammler> lzo-devel 12:31:07 <Ammler> libicu-devel 12:31:33 <Ammler> ignore libicu 12:31:37 <Ammler> that is for gui only 12:32:02 <Phoenix_the_II> just did that fmauNeko 12:32:06 <Phoenix_the_II> still aint in there 12:32:20 <Phoenix_the_II> deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main non-free contrib 12:32:20 <Phoenix_the_II> deb-src http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main non-free contrib 12:32:22 <Webster> Title: Index of /debian-volatile (at volatile.debian.org) 12:32:23 <Webster> Title: Index of /debian-volatile (at volatile.debian.org) 12:32:40 <Ammler> Phoenix_the_II: also mercurial would be nice 12:32:52 <Phoenix_the_II> ah 12:32:56 <Phoenix_the_II> wrong site :p 12:33:05 <Phazorx> did something go boom? 12:33:09 <fmauNeko> yep, not in volatile :p 12:33:11 <Ammler> no 12:33:20 <Ammler> Phazorx: just a os upgrade of ps 12:33:22 <Phoenix_the_II> done Ammler 12:33:33 *** theholyduck has quit IRC 12:33:41 <Ammler> curl: command not found 12:33:56 <Ammler> maybe I need to reload the shell 12:33:57 *** theholyduck has joined #openttdcoop 12:34:11 <Phoenix_the_II> done 12:34:40 <Ammler> yes 12:34:46 <Ammler> compiling... 12:35:02 *** Phazorx has left #openttdcoop 12:38:13 <Ammler> wow, hg is still quite old 12:38:18 <OwenS> Ammler: ? 12:38:26 <Ammler> but it should be fine for just cloning/pulling 12:38:56 <Ammler> version 1.0.1 12:39:37 <OwenS> Ammler: hg clone hg? recursion ftw :P 12:40:19 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 12:40:19 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 12:40:19 <PublicServer> Loading default savegame 12:40:19 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 12:40:20 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #188 (r20080) | STAGE: SERVER DOWN FOR MAINTENANCE | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | Welcome to the depths of insanity | create a wiki userpage" 12:40:25 <VVG> hello 12:40:56 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 12:41:15 <Ammler> $ vim openttd.cfg 12:41:16 <Ammler> Error detected while processing /home/openttd/.vimrc: 12:41:35 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 12:41:35 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 12:41:35 <PublicServer> Loading default savegame 12:41:36 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 12:41:36 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #188 (r20080) | STAGE: SERVER DOWN FOR MAINTENANCE | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | Welcome to the depths of insanity | create a wiki userpage" 12:42:03 <Ammler> !info 12:42:03 <PublicServer> Ammler: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Coopers #188' Year Founded: 1950 Money: 207127674 Loan: 0 Value: 207292092 (T:2, R:0, P:10, S:0) unprotected 12:42:09 <VVG> I asked yesterday, but it was too late and everyone was gone already. I'm trying to build fale-safe lane shifter, and fail. I don't quite understand why. Here is a picture. http://imagebin.ca/view/njCNt5mi.html 12:42:11 <Webster> Title: qwe.png (at imagebin.ca) 12:42:13 <VVG> What am i doing wrong? 12:47:36 <PublicServer> *** Amm1er joined the game 12:48:09 <Ammler> !unpause 12:48:09 <PublicServer> *** Ammler has unpaused the server. (Use !auto to set it back.) 12:48:19 <Ammler> !screen 12:48:21 <PublicServer> *** Ammler made screenshot at 0000364B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000364B.png 12:48:46 <Ammler> !screen 12:48:48 <PublicServer> *** Ammler made screenshot at 00004EA3: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00004EA3.png 12:49:11 <Ammler> !auto 12:49:11 <PublicServer> *** Ammler has enabled autopause mode. 12:49:22 <PublicServer> *** Amm1er has left the game (leaving) 12:49:37 <Ammler> Phoenix_the_II: all seems fine :-) 12:49:43 <Ammler> THANK YOU VERY MUCH 12:50:03 <Ammler> this server rocks :-) 12:50:52 <Phoenix_the_II> ;p 12:51:06 <Ammler> @post PublicServer up again. Phoenix_the_II, thank you very much for this great service! 12:51:07 <Webster> Ammler: Posted. 12:51:59 <Ammler> planetmaker: next cake is for Phoenix_the_II ;-) 12:52:33 <OwenS> Ammler: I presume @post is a synonym for tweet? :p 12:52:40 <Ammler> yes 12:52:49 <Ammler> I guess so :-P 12:53:36 <Ammler> http://twitter.com/openttdcoop 12:53:40 <OwenS> Ammler: You should setup a StatusNet instance at status.openttdcoop.org or such (Or just have status.net host one). Much better syndication for those of us who don't use Twitter :p 12:54:16 <Ammler> I don't use it either 12:54:27 <Ammler> well, except the openttdcoop one 12:54:59 <Ammler> KenjiE20: your task ^ ;-) 12:55:11 <OwenS> I have a bidirectional Twitter connection to my install but theres quite a bunch of lag involved... 12:55:20 <Ammler> put it somewhere on your TODO list :-P 12:55:25 <KenjiE20> right yea 12:55:30 <KenjiE20> somewhere 12:55:37 <Ammler> :-D 12:56:16 <OwenS> You could just take the lazy route and sign up openttdcoop.status.net :P. Or identi.ca/openttdcoop. I believe both support pusshing to Twitter too 12:57:07 <Ammler> VVG: I do not see on your screen, what isn't working 12:57:12 *** jondisti has joined #openttdcoop 12:57:17 <Ammler> could you be a bit more specific 12:57:44 *** mixrin has joined #openttdcoop 13:02:45 <^Spike^> what Ammler said.. cause i can't see a reason why it wouldn't work either... and It doesn't work is the most hated line for an IT person cause it's so random :D 13:03:03 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 13:03:10 <VVG> the whole shifter thing just doesn't work as intended for me. Sometimes trains try to turn when path is obviosly blocked, like in a picture above, sometimes they don't turn when path is free. i don't get it. 13:03:24 <VVG> Does the setup atleast looks correcty? 13:04:01 <Ammler> there is a train trying to switch? 13:04:11 <Ammler> you might check your screen self 13:04:14 <VVG> in a picture it is 2 combined pictures 13:04:26 <VVG> second one is at bottom 13:04:53 <Ammler> ah 13:04:55 <Ammler> :-) 13:05:59 *** Piyush has joined #openttdcoop 13:06:02 <Ammler> hmm 13:06:38 <Ammler> that situation shouldn't happen 13:06:49 <Ammler> I still think, you don't use eol 13:07:23 <VVG> i'm not quite sure what you are talking about 13:07:30 <Ammler> @man eol 13:07:33 <Webster> Search results - OpenTTD - http://wiki.openttd.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=eol 13:07:58 <VVG> i know definition, i don't get how it comes into play here 13:08:08 <Ammler> hmm, there should be a setting defining 2way red as eol 13:08:14 <Ammler> !rcon list_settings eol 13:08:14 <PublicServer> Ammler: All settings with their current value: 13:08:14 <PublicServer> Ammler: pf.yapf.rail_firstred_twoway_eol = on 13:08:14 <PublicServer> Ammler: Use 'setting' command to change a value 13:08:24 *** mixrin has quit IRC 13:08:25 <Ammler> check that in your game 13:08:35 <Piyush> how do you send password so you can login with the registered nick? 13:08:40 <VVG> yapf.rail_firstred_twoway_eol = false 13:08:42 <VVG> in my cfg 13:08:47 <Ammler> @irc 13:08:55 <Ammler> @wiki irc 13:08:57 <Webster> IRC - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Special:Search?go=Go&search=irc 13:09:01 <Ammler> Piyush: ^ 13:09:11 <Piyush> thanks 13:09:40 <VVG> i did try to set it to true, reloaded game right before the situation in screens, it didn't work. should i wait a bit more ingame for things to update? 13:12:09 <Ammler> which save is that screen from? 13:12:30 <VVG> mine game 13:12:41 <Ammler> ah, well, compare with our saves :-P 13:13:10 <Ammler> it is simply not possible that a train tries to go where eol is 13:13:15 <Ammler> if the other line is fine 13:13:44 <Ammler> so trains go everytime there? 13:13:48 <VVG> no 13:14:09 <Ammler> they have orders? 13:14:12 <VVG> yep 13:14:27 <Ammler> then it doesn't happen 13:14:33 <Ammler> you try to fool us 13:15:30 <VVG> i can upload a save, i can't figure it out mysefl anyway 13:16:08 <Piyush> did the game version change between yesterday and today? 13:16:12 <Piyush> !download 13:16:12 <PublicServer> Piyush: !download autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|win32|win64|win9x 13:16:12 *** waterfoul has quit IRC 13:16:22 <Piyush> !download lin64 13:16:22 <PublicServer> Piyush: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r20080/openttd-trunk-r20080-linux-generic-amd64.tar.bz2 13:17:28 <Vitus> VVG 13:17:41 <Vitus> Did you change the value just in openttd.cfg? 13:17:49 <Ammler> never 13:18:04 <Ammler> that is useless 13:18:41 <Ammler> oh 13:18:44 <Ammler> sorry :-) 13:18:54 <VVG> yes, just right now, before it was default, false 13:18:58 <Vitus> I mean, if you want to change it in running game (or savegame) 13:19:02 <Vitus> You have to do it via console 13:19:04 <VVG> oh 13:19:23 <Vitus> Open console, and type "set pf.yapf.rail_firstred_twoway_eol 1" 13:19:29 <Ammler> VVG and Vitus have same color in my client :-/ 13:19:40 <Vitus> Ah :) 13:20:02 <VVG> How do i know if it has been set? 13:20:12 <Vitus> type "set pf.yapf.rail_firstred_twoway_eol" 13:20:17 <Vitus> This will show you current value 13:21:20 <VVG> whoa, now the situation in screenshot doesn't happen. It is fixed now? 13:21:35 <Vitus> I guess 13:21:49 <Vitus> Generally, changes in openttd.cfg affect only new games 13:22:19 <Piyush> Anyone know why I get a version mismatch when I just redownloaded the game? 13:23:00 <Vitus> !dl win32 13:23:00 <PublicServer> Vitus: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r20080/openttd-trunk-r20080-windows-win32.zip 13:23:17 <VVG> Is it one time change, that will be carried over into later saves` 13:23:18 <VVG> ? 13:23:20 <Piyush> I know, I am using lin64, and I just downloaded r20080 for that 13:23:35 <Vitus> What you mean? 13:23:53 <Vitus> If you change something via console for running game, it only affects that game 13:24:05 <Vitus> If you do that in openttd.cfg, it'll affect any future games 13:24:38 <VVG> nothing, seems like that question was a stupid one. 13:24:43 <VVG> thank you very much! 13:25:00 <planetmaker> <Vitus> If you do that in openttd.cfg, it'll affect any future games <-- not even. 13:25:08 <planetmaker> OpenTTD writes the cfg when it exits. 13:25:26 <planetmaker> So if you alter it while OpenTTD runs, your changes are lost once you stop playing 13:25:42 <Vitus> Oh well, I forgot this case :P 13:26:04 <VVG> Outer lane should have more penalties then all other lanes, right? 13:26:51 <Vitus> Depends on how you build the SML 13:27:27 <Ammler> Piyush: what does your version tell you in the window title bar 13:27:30 <Vitus> Look at PSG#185, two PBS on every track except the outermost 13:27:55 *** Piyush has left #openttdcoop 13:29:14 <fmauNeko> !dl win64 13:29:14 <PublicServer> fmauNeko: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r20080/openttd-trunk-r20080-windows-win64.zip 13:29:22 <Vitus> Anyone here using non-default keybinds already? :) 13:29:58 * planetmaker does 13:30:33 <planetmaker> mind that hotkeys.cfg refers to the american keyboard layout 13:30:41 <fmauNeko> !password 13:30:41 <PublicServer> fmauNeko: folksy 13:30:56 <PublicServer> *** fmauNeko joined the game 13:31:05 <Vitus> I know, but I'm not sure what layout German keyboard uses 13:31:25 <PublicServer> *** fmauNeko has left the game (leaving) 13:31:31 <Vitus> Czech keyboard is QWERTZ 13:33:05 <planetmaker> ^ like the German 13:33:22 <planetmaker> but there'll be differences for sure :-) 13:33:52 <VVG> seems i needed to ajust penalties a bit. http://imagebin.ca/view/Xi9DaWN.html train will go straight if a remove one of pbs signals ahead. Though, since other lanes a free, shouldn't it try to get into innermost lane? 13:33:53 <Webster> Title: QWERTY, 9th Jan 2391.png (at imagebin.ca) 13:33:54 <Vitus> And what are the non-default keybinds? 13:34:00 <planetmaker> ^ ,.-#'+*' `ß?=)(/&%$§"!° <>|[]}{ 13:34:16 <planetmaker> z for road toolbar 13:34:33 <planetmaker> (which is y on my keyboards, thus below a for autorail) 13:35:15 <Vitus> Hmm, that reminds me 13:35:22 <planetmaker> I need to adjust it to autoroad 13:35:23 * Ammler prefers mouse :-) 13:35:34 <planetmaker> But that wasn't implemented when I changed it ;-) 13:35:41 <Vitus> I've talked with Yexo about it and he said it should be possible: http://bugs.openttd.org/task/3926 13:35:42 <Ammler> I play too few to remember the keys 13:35:48 <planetmaker> Ammler, even for tool selection? 13:35:51 <Vitus> If you got any ideas, post them :) 13:36:22 <planetmaker> and then the y should become global, I guess, like the a for autorail 13:36:30 <Ammler> planetmaker: sometimes I use railtool 13:36:36 <Ammler> and ctrl of course 13:36:50 <Vitus> Just change it to GLOBAL+Z or whatever and it works :) 13:36:55 <planetmaker> I know 13:37:02 <planetmaker> As said: it didn't work when I changed it 13:37:14 <planetmaker> It just wasn't implemented for the road toolbar 13:37:19 <Vitus> Ah 13:37:30 *** perk111 has joined #openttdcoop 13:37:44 <Vitus> I tried it with landscaping (making GLOBAL+O for "place sign") - and that worked 13:37:59 <planetmaker> that's imho not needed :-) 13:38:25 <planetmaker> a build toolbar is always open. And landscaping is attached to all my buildbars. Thus O is always active ;-) 13:38:50 <Vitus> Eh, I tend to use "Delete" a lot 13:38:55 <Vitus> So I do it through A+O 13:39:16 <planetmaker> yeah 13:39:24 <planetmaker> I do that, too :-) 13:41:42 <Vitus> I'm pretty happy with the default keybinds, though. But then again, that's the case for QWERTY(Z) layout 13:41:58 *** perk11 has quit IRC 13:47:11 *** Benom has quit IRC 13:56:15 *** benom has joined #openttdcoop 14:00:38 *** perk111 has quit IRC 14:01:18 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 14:01:38 *** Vitus has quit IRC 14:01:59 <VVG> now that shifters works, sml does wonders! thank you very muhc! 14:06:20 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop 14:06:20 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 14:22:20 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 14:50:08 <fmauNeko> !playercount 14:50:08 <PublicServer> fmauNeko: Number of players: 0 14:50:20 <fmauNeko> :'( 15:16:14 *** Piyush has joined #openttdcoop 15:16:23 <Piyush> !dl lin64 15:16:23 <PublicServer> Piyush: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r20080/openttd-trunk-r20080-linux-generic-amd64.tar.bz2 15:17:04 <Piyush> I am getting version mismatch, but I have r20080 15:17:13 <Piyush> any fix or workaround? 15:17:43 <Piyush> never mind, I was trying to join the stable server 15:17:45 <Piyush> haha 15:17:49 <Piyush> !password 15:17:49 <PublicServer> Piyush: midget 15:18:07 <PublicServer> *** Piyush joined the game 15:19:33 <PublicServer> *** Piyush has left the game (leaving) 15:22:36 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 15:24:54 *** mixrin has joined #openttdcoop 15:39:22 <Ammler> !rcon list_settings eol 15:39:22 <PublicServer> Ammler: All settings with their current value: 15:39:22 <PublicServer> Ammler: pf.yapf.rail_firstred_twoway_eol = on 15:39:22 <PublicServer> Ammler: Use 'setting' command to change a value 15:39:53 <OwenS> @stage Back up 15:39:53 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #188 (r20080) | STAGE: Back up | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | Welcome to the depths of insanity | create a wiki userpage" 15:39:57 *** pugi has quit IRC 15:40:24 <PeterT> OwenS is a member? 15:40:39 <OwenS> PeterT: No 15:40:47 <PeterT> I didn't think so. 15:43:31 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 15:47:49 <PublicServer> *** Yso joined the game 15:48:33 *** Razaekal has quit IRC 15:49:46 <Mazur> !password 15:49:46 <PublicServer> Mazur: lapses 15:49:55 <Mazur> How appropriate. 15:52:30 <fmauNeko> !password 15:52:30 <PublicServer> fmauNeko: lapses 15:52:46 <PublicServer> *** fmauNeko joined the game 15:54:14 *** Polygon has joined #openttdcoop 15:54:40 <PublicServer> *** Mazur joined the game 15:56:47 <VVG> Is it normal that trains shift at latest shifter instead of first, provided they first is free, in sml setup? 15:57:20 *** benom has quit IRC 15:59:08 <PublicServer> *** fmauNeko has left the game (leaving) 15:59:25 <fmauNeko> !password 15:59:25 <PublicServer> fmauNeko: beater 15:59:42 *** benom has joined #openttdcoop 15:59:45 <PublicServer> *** fmauNeko joined the game 15:59:45 *** mixrin has quit IRC 16:01:01 <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (connection lost) 16:02:12 <Mazur> They should shift at the earliest oppportunity, if the shift is built properly, of course. 16:03:09 <Mazur> Last Coop game we used two reversed PBS to penalise going straight. 16:03:21 <VVG> one not enough? 16:03:41 <Mazur> Single one seemed not enough too often. 16:03:53 <VVG> i have 3 lines, shifting to innermost. first shifter is from outermost to middle one. is that ok? 16:04:16 <Mazur> Whatever you want. 16:04:50 <Mazur> Thart way with the second shift a train can go from 3 to 1. 16:06:06 <VVG> that's how i wanted it to be. but sometimes train just waits until last moment to shift, missing the opportunity to shift two lines. that's with using one pbs as penalty 16:06:41 <PublicServer> *** fmauNeko has left the game (leaving) 16:08:45 <VVG> yep, more penalties seem to help, thanks 16:10:23 <Mazur> You are welcome. 16:11:03 <Mazur> Noobs-'R'-Us helpline out. 16:13:51 *** ^Spike^ has quit IRC 16:13:57 *** devilsadvocate has quit IRC 16:17:46 <PublicServer> *** J_Darnley joined the game 16:19:34 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 16:19:38 <fmauNeko> !password 16:19:38 <PublicServer> fmauNeko: comely 16:19:54 <PublicServer> *** fmauNeko joined the game 16:23:03 *** Absolutis has joined #openttdcoop 16:30:15 <Davelister> !password 16:30:15 <PublicServer> Davelister: legals 16:30:29 <PublicServer> *** Davelister joined the game 16:31:13 <PublicServer> *** Davelister has left the game (leaving) 16:37:33 *** pugi has quit IRC 16:44:15 *** heffer has joined #openttdcoop 16:57:40 *** ^Spike^ has joined #openttdcoop 16:57:40 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ^Spike^ 16:59:48 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop 17:03:22 *** jondisti has quit IRC 17:11:39 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00000000: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00000000.png 17:12:34 <VVG> Is this a FIRS game? 17:14:16 <planetmaker> seems like 17:16:39 <fmauNeko> FIRS ? 17:17:33 <VVG> !help 17:17:33 <PublicServer> VVG: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands 17:17:41 <planetmaker> @firs 17:17:41 <Webster> firs: FIRS Industry Replacement Set, see also: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=41607 17:17:44 <VVG> !dl 17:17:44 <PublicServer> VVG: !dl autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|win32|win64|win9x 17:17:50 <VVG> !dl win32 17:17:50 <PublicServer> VVG: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r20080/openttd-trunk-r20080-windows-win32.zip 17:18:22 <VVG> Bot gives links to a versian a current game is played with, right? 17:18:39 <Mazur> r20080 17:18:50 <fmauNeko> Thx 17:20:36 *** elmz has joined #openttdcoop 17:22:53 <VVG> !password 17:22:53 <PublicServer> VVG: doused 17:22:53 *** perk111 has joined #openttdcoop 17:23:08 <PublicServer> *** fmauNeko has left the game (leaving) 17:24:09 <PublicServer> *** Player has changed his/her name to VVG 17:24:40 *** Polygon has quit IRC 17:25:22 <fmauNeko> Call me when building begins :p 17:26:03 <planetmaker> like 'me!' ? 17:26:26 <planetmaker> :-) 17:27:20 *** elmz_ has quit IRC 17:27:56 <fmauNeko> Yep :p 17:28:02 <Ammler> fmauNeko: don't you follow our twitter? 17:28:15 <PeterT> @seen me 17:28:15 <Webster> PeterT: I have not seen me. 17:28:23 *** perk11 has quit IRC 17:28:31 <VVG> i see almost no industries. do first make up a plan then build and/or use suitably popped industries? 17:28:36 <fmauNeko> I'm following it, but my Twitter client isn't running 17:28:49 <PeterT> twitter...client? 17:28:49 <PeterT> ' 17:29:05 <Ammler> ok, then setup your client to highlight on @stage 17:29:31 <PeterT> my client gives me a bubble popup on topic changes 17:31:04 <Mazur> VVG: No, there were plenty of industries, but the planning/voting stage is going rather slow this time. 17:31:09 *** Piyush has left #openttdcoop 17:34:39 <VVG> Just to clarify planning stage me - you plan your network with secondaries already avaible or built them to suit a plan? 17:34:54 <PublicServer> *** VVG has left the game (leaving) 17:34:57 *** gnemo has joined #openttdcoop 17:35:19 <planetmaker> planning stage: people are invited to sketch their idea. 17:35:26 <planetmaker> (everyone is invited to do so) 17:35:44 <planetmaker> voting stage: everyone has one vote and cannot vote for his/her own plan. Most votes wins 17:35:51 <planetmaker> That plan is then built 17:36:24 <planetmaker> you don't need to consider existing industries when planning 17:36:27 <Mazur> Secondaries built according to plan unless the plan uses an existing one. 17:36:27 <planetmaker> they can be built 17:37:01 <planetmaker> even towns *could* be founded, thoug I'd not encourage that 17:37:05 <planetmaker> +h 17:37:16 <VVG> aha, now it's clear, ty 17:38:24 <Mazur> Don;t take my plan serious, I wasn't when I drew it, I just jotted it down to increase the number of plans. 17:38:48 <Mazur> And to stop the voices. 17:41:02 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 17:41:43 <PublicServer> *** Gnemo joined the game 17:42:08 *** devilsadvocate has joined #openttdcoop 17:43:13 <PublicServer> *** Gnemo has left the game (leaving) 17:53:23 <VVG> @stage 17:53:23 <Webster> VVG: (stage <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "topic set 3 STAGE: ". 17:53:40 <VVG> @help 17:53:40 <Webster> VVG: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. 17:53:53 <VVG> how do i check statis of the game? 17:54:10 <KenjiE20> you read the topic? 17:55:01 <VVG> oh 17:55:15 <VVG> !password 17:55:15 <PublicServer> VVG: deters 17:55:27 <PublicServer> *** Yso has left the game (leaving) 17:55:28 <PublicServer> *** VVG joined the game 17:55:57 <VVG> Do i need to register anywhere or something else to vote/be able to build later on? 17:58:39 <^Spike^> nah... 17:58:48 <^Spike^> as long as you are here when you build 17:58:57 <^Spike^> else we go ban hammer like :) 17:59:02 <^Spike^> sort of i think :) 17:59:14 <^Spike^> and if you want to vote.. you can vote 17:59:24 <VVG> No permission needed to participate? 18:00:25 <Mazur> It's an neven free-er internet. 18:00:30 <Mazur> -n 18:00:38 <planetmaker> VVG: one nick one vote 18:00:50 <planetmaker> just put your nickname as a sign then under one of the names 18:01:14 <planetmaker> a table will pe prepared then and indicated by the sign "!! VOTING BOARD !!" 18:03:26 <PublicServer> *** VVG has left the game (leaving) 18:03:41 <VVG> How long does a voting stage last? 18:04:21 <fmauNeko> As long as a plan is clearly wining :p 18:04:30 <fmauNeko> Hmm 18:04:34 <fmauNeko> That's not english 18:04:47 <planetmaker> until 18:04:50 <fmauNeko> Yep :p 18:05:07 <planetmaker> around 10 votes is a good rule of thumb 18:05:10 <planetmaker> but it depends 18:10:16 <VVG> If a join a server as spectator, can i still place signs? 18:11:04 <PublicServer> *** Barbaar joined the game 18:11:06 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> hola 18:11:20 <VVG> !password 18:11:21 <PublicServer> VVG: calmer 18:11:28 *** Kosmic has joined #openttdcoop 18:11:31 <PublicServer> *** VVG joined the game 18:11:54 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> ow FIRS, never played with that before 18:16:14 <PublicServer> *** VVG has left the game (leaving) 18:17:14 *** Lelle has joined #openttdcoop 18:17:14 *** OwenS has quit IRC 18:17:16 *** Lelle has quit IRC 18:18:20 *** OwenS has joined #openttdcoop 18:18:20 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v OwenS 18:19:39 *** benom has quit IRC 18:19:47 <PublicServer> *** Barbaar has left the game (leaving) 18:21:19 *** Benom has joined #openttdcoop 18:24:42 *** theholyduck has quit IRC 18:53:21 *** ^Spike^ has quit IRC 18:53:38 *** theholyduck has joined #openttdcoop 18:53:44 <PublicServer> *** J_Darnley has left the game (leaving) 18:54:23 *** ^Spike^ has joined #openttdcoop 18:54:23 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ^Spike^ 18:54:53 *** fmauNeko has quit IRC 19:01:40 *** fmauneko has joined #openttdcoop 19:01:49 <fmauneko> !dl lin64 19:01:49 <PublicServer> fmauneko: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r20080/openttd-trunk-r20080-linux-generic-amd64.tar.bz2 19:03:39 <fmauneko> !password 19:03:39 <PublicServer> fmauneko: tiding 19:04:07 <PublicServer> *** fmauNeko joined the game 19:06:22 <PublicServer> *** fmauNeko has left the game (leaving) 19:06:40 *** fmauneko has quit IRC 19:20:05 <VVG> !password 19:20:05 <PublicServer> VVG: sulked 19:20:19 <PublicServer> *** VVG joined the game 19:20:54 <PublicServer> *** VVG has left the game (leaving) 19:22:22 <Kosmic> !password 19:22:22 <PublicServer> Kosmic: sulked 19:42:32 *** theholyduck has quit IRC 19:45:33 *** theholyduck has joined #openttdcoop 19:48:37 <VVG> !password 19:48:37 <PublicServer> VVG: fuzzed 19:48:49 <PublicServer> *** VVG joined the game 19:49:45 <PublicServer> *** VVG has left the game (leaving) 19:54:32 *** Benom has quit IRC 19:59:28 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 20:00:12 *** benom has joined #openttdcoop 20:01:35 *** Kosmic has quit IRC 20:02:02 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 20:02:02 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 20:10:02 *** benom has quit IRC 20:13:40 *** benom has joined #openttdcoop 20:13:40 *** benom has quit IRC 20:19:29 *** benom has joined #openttdcoop 20:19:29 *** benom has quit IRC 20:19:55 *** sharpy has joined #openttdcoop 20:20:17 *** sharpy has quit IRC 20:23:19 *** benom has joined #openttdcoop 20:24:55 <PublicServer> *** Benom joined the game 20:26:07 *** sharpy has joined #openttdcoop 20:26:16 <sharpy> !download 20:26:16 <PublicServer> sharpy: !download autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|win32|win64|win9x 20:26:33 <sharpy> !download win64 20:26:33 <PublicServer> sharpy: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r20080/openttd-trunk-r20080-windows-win64.zip 20:26:34 *** theholyduck has quit IRC 20:28:30 <sharpy> !passwoed 20:28:31 <PublicServer> *** Benom has left the game (leaving) 20:28:36 <sharpy> !password 20:28:36 <PublicServer> sharpy: creamy 20:28:38 *** benom has quit IRC 20:28:50 <PublicServer> *** sharpy joined the game 20:29:34 *** sharpy has quit IRC 20:30:04 <PublicServer> *** sharpy has left the game (leaving) 20:30:13 *** Benom has joined #openttdcoop 20:32:15 *** theholyduck has joined #openttdcoop 20:32:55 <Mucht> !blog 20:32:56 <PublicServer> Mucht: http://www.openttdcoop.org/blog 20:34:00 *** mixrin has joined #openttdcoop 20:41:51 <Webster> Latest update from blog: Coopetition – and the Winner is: Yexo <http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2010/07/05/coopetition-and-the-winner-is-yexo/> 20:46:45 <Ammler> hmm 20:48:23 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 20:48:42 *** Progman has quit IRC 20:51:12 *** KyleS has joined #openttdcoop 20:52:02 <KyleS> !dl win32 20:52:02 <PublicServer> KyleS: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r20080/openttd-trunk-r20080-windows-win32.zip 20:53:45 <KyleS> !password 20:53:45 <PublicServer> KyleS: kinder 20:54:03 <PublicServer> *** KyleS joined the game 20:54:52 <PublicServer> *** KyleS has left the game (leaving) 20:54:59 *** KyleS has quit IRC 20:57:04 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 21:09:51 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 21:17:51 *** Yso has quit IRC 21:29:08 *** Piyush has joined #openttdcoop 21:29:25 <Piyush> !password 21:29:25 <PublicServer> Piyush: madman 21:30:04 <PublicServer> *** Piyush joined the game 21:33:10 <Piyush> anyone know when construction starts? 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