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Log for #openttdcoop on 21st July 2010:
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01:42:20  <Zarenor> !players
01:42:22  <PublicServer> Zarenor: There are currently no clients connected to the server
01:42:43  <Zarenor> Anyone around?
01:42:47  <Zarenor> !dl win64
01:42:47  <PublicServer> Zarenor: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r20146/openttd-trunk-r20146-windows-win64.zip
01:47:24  <Zarenor> !assword
01:47:42  <Zarenor> !password
01:47:42  <PublicServer> Zarenor: spooks
01:47:54  <VVG> me around
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01:48:15  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> heh.. let me have a look at the map a bit...
01:48:59  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> hm
01:49:06  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> all of one plan so far
01:49:41  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> Have we had a pax game recently?
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01:51:50  <VVG> according to archive, 187 was a pax game
01:51:57  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> ah
01:52:07  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> Then I won't plan for that.. thanks
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02:03:15  <Zarenor> !password
02:03:15  <PublicServer> Zarenor: cooper
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03:52:24  <Ramsus08191> !password
03:52:24  <PublicServer> Ramsus08191: ponder
03:52:53  <Ramsus08191> !password
03:52:53  <PublicServer> Ramsus08191: ponder
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04:54:50  <Sathzur> !password
04:54:50  <PublicServer> Sathzur: coffin
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05:18:57  <Davelister> good morning world
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05:27:41  <Sathzur> !password
05:27:41  <PublicServer> Sathzur: mettle
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05:32:55  <Sathzur> !password
05:32:55  <PublicServer> Sathzur: bakers
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05:58:39  <Absolutis> !password
05:58:39  <PublicServer> Absolutis: roused
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06:16:45  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Absolutis: And primaries inside roadring connect to where?
06:25:22  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> correction :)
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06:34:13  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> done.
06:36:53  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> that plan looks pretty good...
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06:37:42  <Absolutis> !screen
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06:38:14  <Absolutis> !screen
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07:26:08  <Absolutis> !password
07:26:08  <PublicServer> Absolutis: raisin
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07:27:06  <sharpy> !password
07:27:06  <PublicServer> sharpy: raisin
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07:27:40  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> got a plan sharpy?
07:30:03  <PublicServer> <Mazur> You saw my plan.  ;-)
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07:30:27  <PublicServer> <sharpy> yeah
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07:47:35  <Absolutis> !password
07:47:35  <PublicServer> Absolutis: chided
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07:48:50  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> are you allowed to do 2 plans?
07:49:02  <PublicServer> <sharpy> think so
07:49:09  <PublicServer> <sharpy> call them
07:49:13  <PublicServer> <sharpy> A and B obv
07:49:34  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> Is the gametype decided in planning stage?
07:49:43  <PublicServer> <sharpy> i beleive so
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08:11:35  <F223> !currentversion
08:11:38  <F223> =/
08:11:40  <F223> !help
08:11:40  <PublicServer> F223: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands
08:11:54  <F223> !download
08:11:54  <PublicServer> F223: !download autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|win32|win64|win9x
08:11:59  <F223> !download win32
08:11:59  <PublicServer> F223: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r20146/openttd-trunk-r20146-windows-win32.zip
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08:16:26  <F223> o.0 the latest build for openttdcoop doesn't have a graphics set in it
08:16:26  <F223> odd
08:16:38  <PublicServer> <sharpy> its a nightly
08:16:48  <PublicServer> <sharpy> have to copy and paste the open graphics
08:16:56  <F223> yeah
08:17:32  <F223> !password
08:17:32  <PublicServer> F223: vainer
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08:17:48  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> i can use OpenGFX.
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08:20:44  <Absolutis> @coopstats
08:20:44  <Webster> http://hyru.ath.cx:60080/~kenji/ottdcoop/stats.html
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08:27:53  <Yso> !password
08:27:53  <PublicServer> Yso: vainer
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08:33:21  <slaca> !password
08:33:21  <PublicServer> slaca: mucous
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08:38:18  <Mark> 'lo
08:38:27  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Hi Mark
08:38:30  <sharpy> !password
08:38:30  <PublicServer> sharpy: mucous
08:38:40  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hi (water-)mark.
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08:48:58  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> has everybof´dy done their plans?
08:49:05  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> everybody*
08:49:12  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> äp
08:49:21  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Probably not, some people may not even have seen the new game.
08:49:24  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> accidental
08:49:29  <PublicServer> <Mazur> The end of gthe last one was abrupt.
08:49:39  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> abrupt?
08:49:48  <PublicServer> <Mazur> sudden
08:50:05  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> you mean that the network was not at 100%?
08:50:24  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Stage was still Building last night, and now we have a new game,
08:50:46  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> but is 6 plans enough?
08:51:05  <PublicServer> <Combuster> 6 plans can be enough
08:51:14  <PublicServer> <Mazur> It is customary to wait a day for everybody to have a chance.
08:51:44  <PublicServer> <Combuster> The game won't start until the evening at least
08:51:47  <PublicServer> <Combuster> (local time)
08:52:00  <PublicServer> <Mazur> CET DST.
08:52:01  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> what is your local time now`?
08:52:24  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Near 11 am.
08:52:45  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> i meant combuster
08:53:06  <PublicServer> <Combuster> didn't you listen? :P
08:53:19  <PublicServer> <Combuster> bbl
08:53:20  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Near 11 am.
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08:53:49  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> Combusters local time is near 11 aor mazurs local time is?
08:54:18  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> or*
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08:57:00  <Mazur> Both.
08:57:26  <Mazur> The whole of the CET zone is.
08:57:53  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Gotta run out for fags.  Bbl.
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09:06:09  <Gumili> Oh, new game
09:06:22  <Gumili> @quickstart
09:06:24  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart
09:06:25  <PublicServer> <sharpy> it was a shock to me too
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09:06:48  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> do you have a plan, gumili?
09:07:07  <Gumili> Hmm, not really :P
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09:07:38  <Gumili> No industry replacement set?
09:07:43  <Gumili> btw, whats the goal this time ?
09:07:45  <Gumili> !password
09:07:45  <PublicServer> Gumili: waifed
09:07:58  <PublicServer> <sharpy> plan defines goal i though
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09:08:05  <Gumili> oh
09:08:41  <PublicServer> <Spike> btw with the !plan signs... put them above all other signs... not somewhere in between... or atleast at a spot they are at the top
09:08:52  <PublicServer> <Spike> cause i saw 3 plans where i was searching who made it and all
09:08:53  <PublicServer> <sharpy> ok
09:08:59  <PublicServer> <Spike> i moved those signs
09:09:50  <PublicServer> <Gumili> so secondaries placement is "random" ?
09:10:01  <PublicServer> <Gumili> i mean, we choose where to put it ?
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09:12:29  <^Spike^> eh.. yeah
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09:14:17  <Absolutis> hi luke
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09:18:46  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> do voting board?
09:18:59  <PublicServer> <sharpy> not yet, give it a bit of time
09:19:14  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> i mean, not for voting, but ready for voting.
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09:19:29  <PublicServer> <sharpy> i guess putting the sign up wouldn't hurt
09:19:47  <PublicServer> <sharpy> bottom right over the water
09:19:50  <PublicServer> <sharpy> ?
09:20:07  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> top right over water?
09:20:24  <PublicServer> <sharpy> either or
09:20:30  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> near the message board
09:20:40  <PublicServer> <sharpy> oh yeah, tho other lake
09:21:12  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> there where it currently is?
09:21:30  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> or near sondgrove rivers
09:21:35  <PublicServer> <sharpy> yeah sure
09:21:35  <PublicServer> <Spike> just put it there
09:21:40  <PublicServer> <Spike> don't make it too hard on yourselves
09:21:57  <PublicServer> <sharpy> lol
09:23:25  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> that good?
09:23:44  <PublicServer> <Spike> yeah
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09:26:11  <PublicServer> <Spike> don't TF for the votingm board
09:26:13  <PublicServer> <Spike> why TF for a sign
09:26:18  <PublicServer> <Spike> and the last plan is a no go
09:26:19  <PublicServer> <Spike> no Chaos
09:26:34  <PublicServer> <Gumili> Why no Chaos? :P
09:26:39  <PublicServer> <Spike> cause we say no chaos
09:26:43  <PublicServer> <Gumili> Ok
09:27:06  <PublicServer> <Spike> from what i've seen it always ended in an unrepaireable mess
09:28:25  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> signs are on different height on different height levels
09:28:40  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> it looks ugly if they arent on the same level
09:28:49  <PublicServer> <Gumili> make more water ;P
09:28:58  <PublicServer> <Spike> i have no comment now.... really...
09:29:12  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> plus thats on the side of the map
09:29:38  <^Spike^> how do you know that part is not going to be used already
09:30:15  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> It maybe can be used...
09:30:41  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> and that little TF doesnt hurt
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09:47:58  <fmauneko> Hay
09:48:00  <fmauneko> !password
09:48:00  <PublicServer> fmauneko: calmly
09:51:54  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> do you have a plan neko?
09:54:37  <fmauneko> !password
09:54:37  <PublicServer> fmauneko: calmly
09:54:37  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> replace the planes with concordes?
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09:54:54  <fmauneko> Hi
09:55:08  <Absolutis> hi
09:55:14  <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Absolutis: I  haven't seen the map
09:55:14  <Absolutis> do you have a plan?
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10:08:09  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> voting soon?
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10:08:22  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> gtg, lunch
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10:14:01  <sharpy> !password
10:14:01  <PublicServer> sharpy: warble
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10:19:35  <sharpy> !password
10:19:35  <PublicServer> sharpy: screwy
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10:21:41  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Is Eau!
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10:43:43  <Absolutis> !stage
10:43:48  <Absolutis> !help
10:43:48  <PublicServer> Absolutis: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands
10:44:09  <Absolutis> @quickstart
10:44:11  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart
10:47:56  <Absolutis> is New Votesystem going to be used?
10:48:23  <V453000> classic voting system
10:48:24  <^Spike^> just use the normal vote system
10:48:26  <V453000> always
10:48:28  <V453000> :)
10:48:30  <V453000> hi btw
10:48:33  <V453000> !password
10:48:33  <PublicServer> V453000: knacks
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10:53:10  <PublicServer> <Mazur> And does V453000 have a PLN?
10:53:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> why? :(
10:53:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
10:53:30  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Why not?
10:53:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> as long as there are some other good plans, I dont need to have one :p
10:54:07  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yours generally combine interest and practibility.
10:54:34  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Well, this time my plan was made while sober.
10:54:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> ooh :D
10:55:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> Mazur: do you know that Lumber mill is a primary?
10:56:07  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Oh, mixed it up with regular lumber mill.
10:56:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
10:58:37  <PublicServer> <Mazur> There.
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10:59:07  <PublicServer> <avdg> :o
10:59:10  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hi, avdg.
10:59:12  <PublicServer> <avdg> new game
10:59:21  <PublicServer> <avdg> hey mazur
10:59:33  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yep, straight from Buildgin stage into new game.
11:00:10  <PublicServer> <Mazur> V453000: any advice on locs for my plan?
11:00:20  <PublicServer> <avdg> :p too fast for me, but I think it was a good thing todo (starting a new game)
11:00:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> there arent many locomotives in this trainset
11:00:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> the choice is basically between WAM12 and eh40 Masai
11:00:56  <PublicServer> <Spike> yet
11:01:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> Spike: in total
11:01:08  <PublicServer> <Spike> combuster said already they come late.. most
11:01:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> 2025 and 2041
11:01:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> those 2 I mentioned
11:01:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> WAM12 is nice imo because it has higher TE and power, and lower speed too - 225
11:01:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> on the other hand Masai is faster but weaker
11:01:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> 251kmh
11:02:20  <PublicServer> <avdg> 26kmh diffrends, not that much
11:02:41  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I'll go for WAM12, then.
11:02:53  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Also to differ from Absolutis.
11:04:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> the point is ... WAM-12 is almost as good as BR182
11:05:19  <PublicServer> <avdg> lol, I thought there where mono and maglev trains, seems its only the eyecandy train that is available
11:05:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> ye
11:08:41  <Gumili> !password
11:08:41  <PublicServer> Gumili: attics
11:08:52  <PublicServer> <avdg> hi gumili
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11:09:02  <PublicServer> <Gumili> hello
11:09:13  <Mazur> HI, Gumili.
11:09:31  <PublicServer> <avdg> mazur: already lagging that much :p
11:09:59  <PublicServer> <Gumili> How long will Planning stage last?
11:10:10  <PublicServer> <avdg> *refers to the fact some players chat through irc when the game lags*
11:10:20  <Mazur> Until this evening, at least.
11:10:41  <PublicServer> <avdg> if everybody sticks online, we could reach that evening :p
11:10:48  <PublicServer> <Gumili> I'll be bored to death by that time :P
11:11:04  <Mazur> Well bury your corpse at a crossroads.
11:11:12  <PublicServer> <Gumili> thanks
11:11:48  <Mazur> Open coffin ceremony before, so the vultures can have a go.
11:12:09  <PublicServer> <Gumili> ;(
11:13:25  <Mazur> Don;t begrudge the poor beasts their feast!  Should thety starve
11:13:35  <Mazur> Don't begrudge the poor beasts their feast!  Should they starve?
11:14:11  <PublicServer> <Gumili> Umm, i won't care anyway...
11:16:01  <Mazur> Exactly.
11:16:46  <PublicServer> <Gumili> So why you want to bury me in first place?
11:16:49  <PublicServer> <avdg> :p chaos
11:17:02  <PublicServer> <avdg> check !plan /ZarenorD
11:17:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> chaos is banned
11:17:10  <PublicServer> <Gumili> chaos ftw! :P
11:17:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> without exceptions
11:17:21  <PublicServer> * avdg loves structured chaos
11:17:33  <PublicServer> <Gumili> why there is no SRNW plan?
11:17:36  <PublicServer> <Gumili> is it banned too?
11:17:49  <PublicServer> <avdg> nope
11:17:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> not a good idea
11:18:00  <PublicServer> <avdg> it means nobody has that idea yet :p
11:18:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> please stay regular this game
11:18:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> the more normal plan, the better
11:18:15  <Mazur> [13:10] <PublicServer> <Gumili> I'll be bored to death by that time :P
11:18:25  <PublicServer> <Gumili> Mazur?
11:18:36  <Mazur> YUou asked why I wanted to bury you.
11:18:41  <PublicServer> <Gumili> oh
11:18:57  <PublicServer> <Gumili> but there won't be anything to bury, if you let vultures have a feast
11:19:43  <Absolutis> !password
11:19:43  <PublicServer> Absolutis: punker
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11:22:53  <Ammler> !rcon debug_level
11:22:53  <PublicServer> Ammler: Current debug-level: 'ai=0, driver=0, grf=0, map=0, misc=0, net=0, sprite=0, oldloader=0, npf=0, yapf=0, freetype=0, sl=0, gamelog=0, desync=0, console=0'
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11:25:37  <Absolutis> voting soon?
11:26:01  <Absolutis> @coopstats
11:26:01  <Webster> http://hyru.ath.cx:60080/~kenji/ottdcoop/stats.html
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11:29:30  <slaca_> hey, slaca stucked here, pls kick him
11:29:50  <V453000> ?
11:30:00  <slaca_> nothing
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11:32:58  <^Spike^> !password
11:32:58  <PublicServer> ^Spike^: potent
11:37:50  <XeryusTC> V453000: i broke the network!
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11:41:54  <Absolutis> voting?
11:42:38  <Absolutis> how soon?
11:44:32  <^Spike^> let's give ppl in all timezones a chance to make a plan?
11:44:36  <^Spike^> and not just 12 hours and done
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11:46:19  <V453000> XeryusTC: wa? :D
11:46:47  <XeryusTC> oh, you started a new game already?
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11:48:10  <^Spike^> XeryusTC good morning.. :D
11:50:06  <XeryusTC> :o
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11:56:31  <V453000> :)
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12:14:00  <Absolutis> when the planning stage started?
12:14:12  <^Spike^> after we had a decent mm
12:15:15  <Absolutis> time?
12:17:43  <^Spike^> Absolutis it's not that we go exactly 24 hours or so
12:17:54  <Absolutis> i just want to know.
12:18:34  <^Spike^> somewhere around 2300CET
12:19:11  <Absolutis> so next day the voting SHOULD be on?
12:19:19  <^Spike^> nowhere said it should...
12:19:27  <^Spike^> we just look if it's decent enough to start voting
12:20:23  <Absolutis> well how many plans there are on most games?
12:20:54  <^Spike^> somethings there are no standards for
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12:22:39  <Sedontane> !playercount
12:22:39  <PublicServer> Sedontane: Number of players: 2
12:22:44  <Sedontane> !password
12:22:44  <PublicServer> Sedontane: turban
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12:25:45  <Sedontane> !players
12:25:46  <PublicServer> Sedontane: Client 750 (Orange) is Max, in company 1 (Brodhattan Transport)
12:25:46  <PublicServer> Sedontane: Client 808 is Spike, a spectator
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12:27:24  <[com]buster> Spike: do we have enough for a voting board?
12:27:55  <^Spike^> you decide
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12:28:22  <Absolutis> a sign says !! no voting yet ""
12:28:29  <Absolutis> !!*
12:29:29  <Absolutis> and we already have a voting board
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12:32:57  <Absolutis> u there?
12:34:02  <[com]buster> private discussion with my fellow staff
12:36:31  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Max|, since you're in game, do you feel like making a plan?
12:37:00  <PublicServer> <Combuster> No pressure :)
12:37:25  <V453000> !password
12:37:25  <PublicServer> V453000: broths
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12:37:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> o/
12:39:14  <fmauneko> \o
12:39:20  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Hey Vbignum
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12:39:33  <PublicServer> <Combuster> are you going to challenge my plan? :)
12:39:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi Combi
12:39:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> no :)
12:39:45  <PublicServer> <Combuster> aw :(
12:39:57  <fmauneko> !password
12:39:58  <PublicServer> fmauneko: broths
12:39:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> I dont have any reasonable idea this time
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12:41:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> btw Combuster: why food takes the longest route? :p
12:41:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> just a detail
12:41:43  <PublicServer> <Spike> cause it's just food
12:41:51  <PublicServer> <Spike> who cares if it's overdue.. they eat it anyway ;)
12:41:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
12:42:21  <PublicServer> <Combuster> they have no choice what they eat :)
12:42:35  <PublicServer> <Spike> Eat you.............
12:42:59  <PublicServer> <Combuster> You didn't knew why I'm hiding most of the time? :)
12:43:08  <^Spike^> hehe
12:43:43  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Goods pay better
12:43:50  <PublicServer> <Combuster> btw
12:44:54  <PublicServer> <Combuster> what an insult; misspelling worlds most important person
12:44:59  <Absolutis> !password
12:44:59  <PublicServer> Absolutis: broths
12:45:29  <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Wtf ?
12:45:37  <Absolutis> most foods take months in transit anyway :D
12:46:29  <PublicServer> <Combuster> fmauNeko: do you want to make a plan?
12:46:35  <Absolutis> !password
12:46:35  <PublicServer> Absolutis: payoff
12:46:39  <PublicServer> <Combuster> otherwise I'll open voting
12:46:40  <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> I'm thinking about it
12:46:47  <PublicServer> <Combuster> I'll wait :)
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12:47:19  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> can you vote now?
12:47:40  <PublicServer> <Combuster> if you read chat: ask fmauNeko
12:48:25  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> oh.
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12:49:48  <Absolutis> if you make a plan put your name on the voting board
12:50:32  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> if you dont remove the <put name here
12:50:32  <PublicServer> <Combuster> You sound like my brother :(
12:50:38  <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Haha
12:50:41  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> things
12:50:51  <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Well, you can start voting, my idea is already covered :p
12:51:19  <Absolutis> so no anymore plans?
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12:51:38  <Combuster> @stage Planning+Voting
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12:52:04  <fmauneko> Damn, MAME is very long to compile :p
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12:52:16  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> start voting!
12:52:31  <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Hmm, Is voting for own plan allowed ?
12:52:31  <Combuster> Absolutis: people can add plans until the end
12:52:50  <PublicServer> <Combuster> and, no voting for own plan
12:53:20  <PublicServer> <Combuster> (removed vote)
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12:55:20  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> vote spike!
12:55:36  <^Spike^> who forces me\
12:55:53  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> unless you cant choose...
12:56:10  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> or if you dont want
12:57:08  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Absolutis: please, people can act on their own. There's no reason to dictate them everything
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13:03:36  <slaca> !password
13:03:36  <PublicServer> slaca: maxims
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13:07:05  <Yso> !password
13:07:06  <PublicServer> Yso: maxims
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13:13:37  <XeryusTC> !password
13:13:37  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: maxims
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13:15:04  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> hi all
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13:29:12  <sedontane> !password
13:29:13  <PublicServer> sedontane: fluffs
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13:29:22  <sedontane> hello
13:29:26  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> hi
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13:32:02  <sedontane> just checking in my vote, seeya later
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13:32:11  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> bye
13:32:57  <^Spike^> !rcon set found_town
13:32:58  <PublicServer> ^Spike^: Current value for 'found_town' is: '1' (min: 0, max: 2)
13:32:59  <^Spike^> !rcon set found_town 0
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13:40:40  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> well we do have some interestig plans here
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13:43:12  <VVG> hello
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13:47:39  <Mazur> Hi, VVG.
13:52:26  <VVG> !password
13:52:26  <PublicServer> VVG: gallop
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13:57:16  <VVG> I'm confused.
13:58:24  <VVG> not anymore
13:59:36  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Why would you be confused?
13:59:40  <VVG> Still, wording "clockwise RR" is confusing
13:59:57  <VVG> I got confused by that wording in CB's plan
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14:00:49  <Absolutis> !password
14:00:49  <PublicServer> Absolutis: veered
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14:02:27  <Mazur> Gosh, I'm popular.
14:02:39  <Mazur> Or rather, mt plan is.
14:02:42  <Mazur> my
14:03:03  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> you have a competitor.
14:03:10  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> Chris.
14:03:26  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> o should i say "challenger
14:03:31  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> or*
14:03:58  <PublicServer> <Mazur> That's good.
14:04:03  <VVG> no, it's competitor, not a challenger
14:04:05  <Chris_Booth> my plan will never win
14:04:17  <PublicServer> <Mazur> It'll give him confidence to turn in a new plan another time.
14:04:45  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> actually i can not choose.
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14:05:26  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> or maybe mazur actually...
14:06:07  <PublicServer> <Mazur> yes, follow the herd, my little lambs,  and don;t mind yhte sound of chopping waiting ahead.
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14:06:19  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> :)
14:08:20  <Chris_Booth> Absolutis you traitor
14:09:01  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> sorry, i was thinking too quickly :)
14:09:18  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> playing SimTower now, afk.
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14:10:26  <Qanael_> !password
14:10:27  <PublicServer> Qanael_: veered
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14:11:29  <VVG> Mazur: With that many hubs and cetral drop, with TL5, whole map will be covered in tracks before you actually start building slhs :)
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14:13:05  <Chris_Booth> VVG good point dont vote for him then vote for someone else
14:13:16  <Ramsus08191> !password
14:13:16  <PublicServer> Ramsus08191: veered
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14:13:35  <Absolutis> someone change my vote back for Chris Booth
14:13:44  <VVG> I still like Mazur's plan more :p
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14:17:18  <V453000> !password
14:17:18  <PublicServer> V453000: ruffle
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14:21:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> Mazur: only one note ... I would advise to merge the 4 stations in the middle into one
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14:21:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> with the 4 accesses
14:21:46  <Mazur> It is only 512x512.  Still, I feel confident you're all competent builders who can manage all hte hubs.
14:22:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> easy imo
14:22:05  <OG> V
14:22:15  <OG> is u that hosted stable?
14:22:20  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yes.  I was thinking about that, earlier, anyway.
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14:22:43  <V453000> OG: definitely not
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14:23:03  <OG> NA city set not in bananas
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14:23:12  <V453000> oh
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14:29:05  <Absolutis> !password
14:29:05  <PublicServer> Absolutis: ruffle
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14:32:34  <Gumili> !password
14:32:34  <PublicServer> Gumili: sandal
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14:50:05  <sharpy> !password
14:50:05  <PublicServer> sharpy: topple
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14:52:04  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> made a plan :D
14:53:06  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, and it is quite simular to mazur's plan :o
14:54:41  * XeryusTC pokes V453000 into worshipping my plan ;)
14:55:46  <VVG> !password
14:55:46  <PublicServer> VVG: topple
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15:09:32  <Combuster> XeryusTC: no vote change from me
15:09:56  <XeryusTC> suspected so
15:10:06  <XeryusTC> it is quite futile to plan something this late in the planning stage anyway
15:10:17  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Not that
15:10:32  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Mazur's plan is more original
15:10:42  <Ammler> XeryusTC: just remove all votes and let them vote again
15:11:30  <XeryusTC> Combuster: i do not agree with that
15:11:31  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Well, at best you achieve a vote splitting
15:12:09  <XeryusTC> i doubt that people will change their votes
15:12:14  <XeryusTC> as my plan is less simple
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15:12:40  <^Spike^> simple enough imo
15:12:40  <Absolutis> !password
15:12:40  <PublicServer> Absolutis: garbed
15:12:52  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Actually, your plan is more straightforward
15:12:56  <XeryusTC> uhm, my plan is more simple
15:13:07  <XeryusTC> i meant to say that mazur's plan is less simple
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15:13:33  <PublicServer> <Combuster> The only reason I'm sticking with Mazur's is that I can't recall a game where all trains must run a profit
15:13:52  <V453000> is that involved there?
15:13:59  <XeryusTC> isn't that true for every game mostly
15:14:05  <XeryusTC> or well, the connect everything part is
15:14:27  <XeryusTC> i doubt that the entire thing would fit though
15:14:41  <V453000> 225kmh on 512x512 doesnt have to turn profit every year and still keep profittable
15:15:03  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> i bet mazur is going to win
15:15:04  <PublicServer> <Combuster> What I recall is that every game here scores 900 at 2050
15:15:11  <PublicServer> <Combuster> min. income = negative
15:15:40  <PublicServer> * Combuster is appalled by Chris booth for being totally uncreative
15:15:55  <PublicServer> <Combuster> it's just my plan with transfers instead of SLs
15:16:11  <XeryusTC> meh, i'm going to remove my plan anyway, as it was originally intended for temperate anyway
15:16:45  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> Mazur is going to win.
15:17:05  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> shall i declare the winner then?
15:17:06  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Not if we disqualify him, hehehehe
15:17:14  <VVG> haha
15:17:23  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> I'd declare mazur as a winner
15:17:25  <PublicServer> <Combuster> XeryusTC: go ahead
15:17:33  <PublicServer> <Combuster> he deserves it
15:18:12  <Absolutis> !help
15:18:12  <PublicServer> Absolutis: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands
15:18:26  * Combuster prods Mazur
15:19:10  <VVG> mb vote fisrt, disqvualify Mazur or not? :)
15:19:25  <Combuster> VVG: that was a joke
15:20:06  <VVG> Combuster: and that was extension of your joke
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15:20:49  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> we need to have a new save where the date cheat is used to get WAM12
15:21:03  <V453000> you dont need to :)
15:21:07  <Combuster> VVG: it turned out to be unnegotiable
15:21:07  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> nah, it will come when we finish building the network
15:21:11  <V453000> building will take time
15:21:15  <V453000> !date
15:21:15  <PublicServer> V453000:  4 Jun 1998
15:21:21  <Combuster> So does getting Mazur here :)
15:21:22  <Ammler> please stop using short "mb", this is a nick in openttd world
15:21:24  <PublicServer> * XeryusTC starts on some ML
15:21:57  <Absolutis> stage change?
15:22:03  <Ammler> maybe not in open- :-)
15:22:15  <XeryusTC> !stage Building
15:22:18  <V453000> @
15:22:20  <XeryusTC> 2stage Building
15:22:22  <XeryusTC> @stage Building
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15:22:22  <V453000> :)
15:22:24  <XeryusTC> bah
15:22:26  <XeryusTC> wrong bot :P
15:22:28  <V453000> :D
15:22:33  <V453000> wrong shift
15:22:45  <XeryusTC> wrong not pressing the key anyway :P
15:22:50  <V453000> :)
15:22:58  <V453000> alright ... im off :)
15:23:05  <V453000> seeya later ... tomorrow most likely
15:23:38  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> lets build electric :P
15:25:43  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm
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15:28:05  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> do the "BBHxx /M" signs at the plan  mean
15:28:09  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm, i think the map is going to be small :P
15:28:14  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> mazur builds them?
15:28:57  <PublicServer> <Gnemo> the /M just means it's part of his plan
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15:30:42  <Absolutis> building stage now :(
15:30:44  <VVG> !password
15:30:44  <PublicServer> VVG: vortex
15:30:46  <Absolutis> :)*
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15:32:25  <PublicServer> * Absolutis als builds ML
15:32:32  <Absolutis> also*
15:32:40  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Hm, it looks like mazur's math is off
15:33:14  <PublicServer> <VVG> i've got anidea for the central drop station layout, i made a small model at !idea. Will this work?
15:33:17  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> remove losing plans?
15:33:39  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> do that.
15:33:46  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> at least for my plans
15:34:04  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> that would work perfectly, VVG.
15:34:41  <XeryusTC> !rcon patch town_growth_rate
15:34:41  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: CmdBuildRailroadTrack        Absolutis  date:1999-05-29  tile:00007278  p1:0000730A p2:00000081 text: price:17580
15:34:41  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Current value for 'town_growth_rate' is: '2' (min: 0, max: 4)
15:34:46  <XeryusTC> !rcon patch town_growth_rate 0
15:34:56  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Doesn't work according to plan
15:35:12  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Trains get out in the direction they came from...
15:35:29  <PublicServer> <Combuster> or at least, they should
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15:35:30  <Mazur> EH, yeah?
15:35:41  <PublicServer> <VVG> oh, yeah
15:35:42  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> why they should
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15:35:48  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> mazur actually made guidelines where the rings should be placed :o
15:36:04  <avdg> hmm… do we have a plan yet?
15:36:09  <PublicServer> <VVG> yes
15:36:15  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> Mazur's
15:36:21  <avdg> :)
15:36:31  <PublicServer> <Combuster> avgd: of course we have a plan, why else would we be building? :)
15:36:46  <avdg> its finally not v (with all respect :p)
15:37:05  <PublicServer> <VVG> LLL_RRR o_0
15:37:16  <avdg> lol
15:37:29  <PublicServer> <VVG> i somehow overlooked that part of the plan
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15:38:05  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I don;t hang on that part of it.
15:38:23  <PublicServer> <Spike> may i ask why that massive TF?
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15:38:51  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> which massive tf?
15:39:03  <PublicServer> <Spike> oh move of network plan..
15:39:08  <PublicServer> <Spike> could've done with less TF but well
15:39:13  <PublicServer> <Spike> NSE corner
15:39:18  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> xD
15:39:20  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> that is quite massive
15:39:30  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> corrected sign :)
15:39:33  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> the plan is fine where it is ;)
15:40:10  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> right.
15:40:19  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Well., it may interfere with a hub, later.
15:40:23  <PublicServer> <Combuster> hmm, T-hub, TL5, 3x6 lines
15:40:31  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> dont forget the two spaces in front of the sign next time ;)
15:40:32  <PublicServer> <Combuster> could've been worse
15:40:43  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> the network plan sign is the single most sign in the game and should always be on top
15:42:26  * Absolutis is building FPP Station
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15:45:17  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> someone delete the unused plans
15:45:24  <PublicServer> * XeryusTC shall be building bBH 02 :P
15:45:36  <PublicServer> <Mazur> My plan _is_ min the way of a hub.
15:45:52  <VVG> Hm. There was multi-unload orders in last game. What about multi-load orders? Do they work?
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15:45:55  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> fortunately the middle of the map is at the town :P
15:48:01  <PublicServer> <Mazur> But how is my math off, Combuster?
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15:48:09  <PublicServer> <Combuster> sorry, my fault
15:48:27  <PublicServer> <Combuster> I measured out 85 from the edge, and ended at 370
15:48:39  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> maybe someone should start with the inner ring
15:48:40  <PublicServer> <Combuster> on the wrong coordinate
15:50:47  <Gumili> Oh, so the voting is done already? ;o
15:51:05  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> yep, mazur won
15:51:06  <avdg> yeah, we're making progress the last 24h
15:51:39  <Gumili> !password
15:51:39  <PublicServer> Gumili: cotted
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15:52:23  <PublicServer> <Gumili> what does "wip" stan for?
15:52:30  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> work in progress
15:52:30  <PublicServer> <Gumili> "work in progress" ?
15:52:31  <PublicServer> <Combuster> WIP = work in progress
15:52:31  <PublicServer> <Gumili> k
15:52:34  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> wwork in progress
15:55:25  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> should a space be added on the name of MSs
15:55:27  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> ?
15:55:32  <PublicServer> <Combuster> yes
15:56:49  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> FPP station done
15:57:12  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I love to see my minions a;ll working so hard and lovely.
15:57:12  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> too few platforms imo :o
15:57:22  <PublicServer> <Gumili> lol
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15:59:46  <Absolutis> GTG
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16:00:13  <PublicServer> <Gumili> Can i build something?
16:00:21  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Always :)
16:00:37  <PublicServer> <Spike> pick something you like... station... hub...
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16:01:18  <PublicServer> <Gumili> MS should be easy to expand?
16:01:42  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I'm building inner ML ring.
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16:04:12  <PublicServer> <Gumili> and what level of TF is allowed? Coop TF?
16:04:18  <PublicServer> <Spike> as usual
16:04:19  <PublicServer> <Combuster> You shu
16:04:24  <PublicServer> <Mazur> As low as you can go.
16:04:29  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Low.
16:04:32  <PublicServer> <Combuster> *shouldn't need much anyway
16:04:41  <PublicServer> <Mazur> That's what I mean.
16:05:10  <PublicServer> <Gumili> in south west corner of the map, where the place for oil refinery is, there is evil hill ;P
16:05:18  <PublicServer> <Combuster> go around
16:05:23  <PublicServer> <Combuster> where applicable
16:05:49  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Build refinery to hte side.
16:06:11  <PublicServer> <Gumili> Umm?
16:06:17  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Plan adjusts to reality.
16:06:26  <PublicServer> <Gumili> can i use existing refinery ?
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16:06:41  <PublicServer> <Gumili> there is one nearby, Tunnston Refinery
16:07:12  <PublicServer> <Mazur> One mo.
16:07:45  <PublicServer> <Gumili> you want to add second one? :o
16:08:15  <PublicServer> <Mazur> No, that one will do nicely, if you keep your tracks clean.
16:08:36  <PublicServer> <Gumili> what do You mean, by clean? :p
16:08:39  <^Spike^> i'm working in the NE btw but going for a moment
16:08:44  <^Spike^> will work on it when i get back
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16:09:34  <PublicServer> <Mazur> That you keep it simple so it can be modified to suit the needs of this beautiful land of ours.
16:09:43  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> that hill isn't too bad
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16:12:13  <PublicServer> <Gumili> how big should be this station for beggining? 4 platforms for drop, 8 for pickup ?
16:13:55  <XeryusTC> !gap 5 9
16:13:55  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 5 and gap 9.
16:14:11  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I'm not entirely sure.  Something like that.
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16:22:12  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm
16:22:22  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> BBH 2 isn't as spaghetti as i'd like
16:22:43  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Damn, now I'll have to eat pasta tonioght.
16:22:47  <PublicServer> <Gumili> lol
16:23:03  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i'm eating the other italian food tonight ;)
16:23:17  <Razaekel> >.>
16:23:20  <PublicServer> * Combuster sings Andre van Duin
16:23:22  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Thtr'as an idea, as well.
16:23:22  <Razaekel> pizza
16:23:33  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Effe wachtuh.
16:23:50  <PublicServer> <Combuster> lalalala lalalala
16:23:55  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> why did i have trouble remembering which song it was xD
16:24:28  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Lol.
16:25:16  <PublicServer> <Combuster> and now, the most boring part
16:25:19  <PublicServer> <Combuster> signals -_-
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16:28:23  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> bbh 2 is done :D
16:28:46  <damalix2> !password
16:28:46  <PublicServer> damalix2: influx
16:28:51  <PublicServer> * Combuster hates building with a broken touchpad button
16:29:24  <damalix2> lol
16:29:55  * PeterT builds Combuster a new touchpad
16:30:12  <PeterT> never mind, it broke :p
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16:30:32  <PublicServer> <damalix2> Hellow
16:30:46  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Hello damalix
16:30:58  <PublicServer> <damalix2> new game, and we already have a plan :)
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16:31:52  <sharpy> !password
16:31:53  <PublicServer> sharpy: boldly
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16:32:14  <PublicServer> <Combuster> BBH04 done
16:32:18  <PublicServer> <damalix2> :)
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16:32:33  <PublicServer> <Mazur> And did you realise, Combuster, gthat techincally...
16:32:39  <PublicServer> <Mazur> It's in gth wrong place.
16:32:58  <PublicServer> <Mazur> MSH and BBH go on either side of the centre of the map.
16:33:07  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Mwuhahahahahahaaa!
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16:33:41  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Then I'lll just connect it off-center
16:33:55  <PublicServer> <Combuster> and complain that the lake was in the way and I wasn't allowed to fill it
16:33:56  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I'm just jerking yer chain,
16:34:17  <PublicServer> <sharpy> may i have a crack at BBH01?
16:34:38  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Sure.
16:35:50  <PublicServer> <Gumili> What do You think of OIL REFINERY DROP and PICKUP? Is it ok, or should i remake it ?
16:36:12  <PublicServer> <Combuster> too few lines
16:36:33  <PublicServer> <Gumili> plan says LLRR?
16:36:45  <PublicServer> <Gumili> or you mean platforms
16:37:29  <PublicServer> <Combuster> too few platforms too
16:37:44  <PublicServer> <Mazur> And I kinda object to unnecesary dead-end reverse tracks.
16:37:55  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Overflows stink
16:38:09  <PublicServer> <Gumili> so just waiting lines?
16:38:18  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Nah, overflows are cool, but reverse dead ends are lame.
16:38:24  <PublicServer> <Gumili> btw, doesn't BBH02 has to few lanes?
16:38:33  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Overflows = bad design
16:38:39  <PublicServer> <Combuster> IMNSHO
16:38:47  <PublicServer> <Combuster> nevertheless
16:38:58  <PublicServer> <Combuster> a single ML can fill up to 6 platforms
16:39:18  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I see overflows as a necessity for when jams are resolved.
16:39:20  <PublicServer> <Combuster> and you have two lines, both containing mainly drop trains
16:39:39  <PublicServer> <Gumili> we won't pick up goods?
16:39:48  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yes, we do.
16:39:59  <PublicServer> <Combuster> but the drop-to-pickup ratio is not 1:1
16:40:19  <PublicServer> <Gumili> so should i add more drops or pickups ?
16:40:43  <PublicServer> <Combuster> you should be able to handle surges of only goods trains
16:40:49  <PublicServer> <sharpy> what is landscaping rule? minimal?
16:40:50  <PublicServer> <Combuster> and surges of only primary trains
16:40:55  <PublicServer> <Combuster> low tf
16:40:55  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Minimal, yes,
16:41:06  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Or low.
16:41:09  <PublicServer> <sharpy> ok
16:41:37  <PublicServer> <Combuster> so generally you need 12 platforms of drop and pickup
16:41:48  <PublicServer> <Combuster> and no overflows
16:43:43  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hm, BBH03 and 07 are going to be tricky.
16:44:14  <PublicServer> <Combuster> what's going to be more tricky are the MSHs...
16:44:34  <PublicServer> <Combuster> where all the space has been eaten by the BBHs
16:44:36  <PublicServer> <Mazur> They, too.
16:44:44  <PublicServer> <Gnemo> why not just combine the BBH and MSH on the inner ring?
16:44:56  <PublicServer> <Gumili> crap
16:45:02  <PublicServer> <Gumili> stupid water supply
16:45:14  <PublicServer> <Mazur> That's cool, Gnemo.
16:45:27  <Yso> !password
16:45:27  <PublicServer> Yso: boldly
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16:57:25  <damalix2> @gap 5
16:57:25  <Webster> damalix2: For Trainlength of 5: <= 11 needs 2, 12 - 18 needs 3, 19 - 25 needs 4.
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17:00:39  <VVG> !password
17:00:39  <PublicServer> VVG: toasts
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17:02:57  <PublicServer> <VVG> Combuster?
17:03:03  <PublicServer> <Combuster> yes?
17:03:15  <PublicServer> <VVG> Why your bbh04 doesn't have balancers?
17:03:32  <PublicServer> <Combuster> It has one
17:04:44  <PublicServer> <VVG> why only one?
17:05:05  <PublicServer> <Combuster> because that's where congestion is going to occur
17:05:28  <PublicServer> <VVG> other parts will be congestion free?
17:05:40  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Not guaranteed
17:05:54  <PublicServer> <VVG> but expected?
17:06:03  <PublicServer> <Combuster> but I don't like building stuff that doesn't get used
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17:10:06  <PublicServer> <VVG> how big the center town drop is expected tobe?
17:10:06  <PublicServer> <Combuster> btw, Mazur?
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17:10:34  <PublicServer> <Combuster> did you mean with MS spokes only the main station spokes?
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17:13:22  <PublicServer> <Mazur> yes, Combuster?
17:13:44  <Combuster> [19:10] <+PublicServer> <Combuster> did you mean with MS spokes only the main station spokes?
17:14:31  <PublicServer> <Mazur> How the hell should I know, the man speaks absolute driv el!
17:14:53  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Main Station spokes, yes.
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17:15:07  <PublicServer> <avdg> hi
17:15:10  <PublicServer> <Mazur> hI, avdg.
17:15:11  <PublicServer> <Combuster> then Xeryus' hub has a little problem...
17:15:14  <PublicServer> <VVG> o/
17:15:20  <PublicServer> <Gumili> hello avdg
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17:16:17  <PublicServer> <Gumili> shouldn't BBH02 be LLLRRR instead of LLRR ?
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17:16:35  <PublicServer> <damalix2> bbl
17:17:04  <PublicServer> <avdg> :o where is the plan
17:17:11  <PublicServer> <Gumili> south east
17:17:12  <PublicServer> <avdg> ah
17:18:57  <PublicServer> <VVG> i  can't find anything i'd like to build T_T
17:19:16  <PublicServer> <avdg> anyone buzy at BBH01?
17:19:28  <PublicServer> <sharpy> i am :)
17:19:30  <PublicServer> <sharpy> very slowly
17:19:35  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Didn;t you mentio n a central drop station earlier?
17:19:42  <PublicServer> <avdg> :p I think I know how to build there :p
17:19:48  <PublicServer> <avdg> but I let you do it
17:19:57  <PublicServer> <avdg> *I'll
17:20:05  <PublicServer> <VVG> it's gotta be big, with ll_rr setup
17:20:08  <PublicServer> <sharpy> thanks, its a challenge for me, if it gets silly you can pile in
17:20:22  <PublicServer> <Gumili> ll_rr is only for ms ;o
17:20:35  <PublicServer> <Gumili> or i get it wrong?
17:20:41  <PublicServer> <sharpy> spokes too appaz
17:20:49  <Qanael_> !password
17:20:49  <PublicServer> Qanael_: vacate
17:20:50  <PublicServer> <VVG> yep, but 4 entrances, each ll_rr
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17:21:06  <PublicServer> <avdg> hi Qanael
17:21:13  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Hey
17:21:24  <PublicServer> <Gumili> yay! oil refinery closed >.<
17:21:54  <PublicServer> <avdg> we've still 50 years
17:22:16  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Darn, I'm gonna have to go in like 5 mins
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17:24:46  <PublicServer> <Qanael> BBH construction is so intimidating
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17:25:29  <PublicServer> <Combuster> lol, "almost dead"
17:25:35  <PublicServer> <avdg> ?
17:25:48  <PublicServer> <Combuster> "... announces imminent closure"
17:25:57  <PublicServer> <Combuster> gotta go
17:25:59  <PublicServer> <avdg> cya
17:26:03  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Bye, Combuster.
17:26:04  <PublicServer> <Combuster> someone finish BBH07 for me
17:26:07  <PublicServer> <damalix2> Cya
17:26:08  <PublicServer> <Combuster> only needs the mergers
17:26:11  <PublicServer> <avdg> k
17:26:14  <PublicServer> <Combuster> (and signals)
17:26:21  <PublicServer> <damalix2> ok
17:26:27  <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm
17:26:30  <PublicServer> <avdg> direction?
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17:28:03  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Love the way Combuster built all through the town.
17:28:35  <PublicServer> <sharpy> is it ok for me to nuke bunnham?
17:29:00  <PublicServer> <Gnemo> why? there is plenty of room
17:29:02  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Gotta go, see ya all
17:29:07  <PublicServer> <avdg> cya
17:29:07  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Bye, Qanael.
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17:29:19  <PublicServer> <sharpy> act ur right i see a way
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17:32:07  <PublicServer> <avdg> can someone check if the join at BBH07 is fine?
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17:33:25  <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm
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17:35:37  <gnemo> odd, connection lost but didn't auto-quit to main menu
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17:41:34  <PublicServer> <sharpy> argh
17:41:36  <PublicServer> <avdg> ?
17:41:37  <PublicServer> <damalix2> ?
17:41:45  <PublicServer> <sharpy> oh no
17:41:49  <PublicServer> <sharpy> wait
17:41:53  <PublicServer> <sharpy> no i think its ok
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17:44:27  <PublicServer> <avdg> BBH07 bit closer to its finish :p
17:44:54  <PublicServer> <damalix2> :)
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17:46:36  <puk> Hi =)
17:46:39  <puk> !password
17:46:40  <PublicServer> puk: innate
17:46:41  <PublicServer> <damalix2> hello
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17:50:58  <PublicServer> <Spike> do i hear volunteers to rebuild food processing
17:51:25  <puk> I was about to volunteer for BBH08 =o
17:51:34  <PublicServer> <Spike> also fine with me :)
17:51:56  <PublicServer> <Spike> i'm just building an overly complicated drop (that is complicated signal wise not VLongNumber logic wise :))
17:52:35  <puk> Yeah I saw ahah
17:53:46  <puk> 5 tiles trains right ?
17:53:51  <PublicServer> <damalix2> yup
17:54:10  <PublicServer> <damalix2> I was wondering something... MS have 2 lanes, right ?
17:54:39  <PublicServer> <damalix2> Does each of the lane is dedicated to drop OR pickup ?
17:55:09  <PublicServer> <Gumili> balancer will deal with that :P
17:58:31  <PeterT> hello V453000
17:58:43  <V453000> hi : D just misclicked
17:58:49  <V453000> I was like "WTF is this???"
17:59:52  <V453000> !password
17:59:52  <PublicServer> V453000: innate
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18:00:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> o/
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18:02:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> Spike: very interesting
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18:04:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> but to be honest I have no idea what is the point in that :)
18:04:11  <PublicServer> <Spike> what who where
18:04:13  <slaca> @quickstart
18:04:15  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart
18:04:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> your wip station :)
18:04:24  <PublicServer> <Spike> you'll see when it's done :)
18:04:32  <PublicServer> <Spike> also need the other side around the corner :)
18:04:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
18:04:47  <PublicServer> <Spike> atleast i try something new :D
18:04:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> I have seen this in one of the PSGs I think
18:04:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> or something similar
18:05:08  <PublicServer> <Spike> could be... trying to build that myself :)
18:05:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
18:05:18  <PublicServer> <Spike> atleast it's different then the usual stations :D
18:05:22  <PublicServer> <Spike> you rarely see it :)
18:05:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> :))
18:05:33  <PublicServer> <Spike> it's never too late to work on your building skills ;)
18:05:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> there is always something to improve :p
18:06:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> quite a lot of building has been done for the relatively short period of time building :)
18:07:59  <PublicServer> <Spike> when both sides are done of my station i need to connect them.. now that is the easiest.. :D
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18:09:46  <slaca> !password
18:09:46  <PublicServer> slaca: posies
18:10:26  <PublicServer> *** Player has changed his/her name to slaca
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18:14:34  <PublicServer> <sharpy> i think i just made the least compact messiest BBH ever
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18:15:23  <PublicServer> <damalix2> That's not compact, but that's not messy either imho
18:15:32  <PublicServer> <Spike> which one
18:15:37  <PublicServer> <sharpy> BBH01
18:15:44  <PublicServer> <Spike> not compact.. spacy...
18:15:48  <PublicServer> <Spike> but not messy either
18:16:01  <PublicServer> <sharpy> i do have to go now though
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18:16:06  <PublicServer> <sharpy> so will need finishing
18:16:10  <PublicServer> <damalix2> I'm out to eat, Cya
18:16:11  <PublicServer> <sharpy> checking
18:16:12  <PublicServer> <sharpy> etc
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18:17:07  <PublicServer> <Puk> wait it's only LL_RR when going to the center ?
18:17:20  <PublicServer> <sharpy> spokes are llRR
18:17:43  <PublicServer> <sharpy> see BBH02
18:17:57  <PublicServer> <sharpy> and plan
18:18:02  <PublicServer> <Puk> yes
18:18:12  <PublicServer> <Puk> Cause i was going for x3
18:18:27  <PublicServer> <Puk> cause BBH04 has LLL_RRR
18:18:39  <PublicServer> <sharpy> ah
18:18:48  <PublicServer> <sharpy> somethings not right here!
18:18:57  <PublicServer> <sharpy> ah well, either way, i do need to go
18:18:58  <PublicServer> <Puk> yes
18:19:01  <PublicServer> <sharpy> see y'all later
18:19:04  <PublicServer> <Puk> see ya =0
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18:20:49  <slac> !password
18:20:49  <PublicServer> slac: nudges
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18:36:16  <PublicServer> <Spike> now to signal the lot..
18:36:46  <PublicServer> <Puk> did you finish your station ? =)
18:36:54  <PublicServer> <Spike> sort of.. just need to signal it :)
18:37:20  <PublicServer> <Puk> ahah it looks awesome
18:38:21  <PublicServer> <Spike> don't want to take all the credits for the design..
18:38:31  <PublicServer> <Spike> but sign it wasn't an easy one i liked to try it myself
18:44:16  <PublicServer> <Spike> exits at my station can also be split into 2 separate exits
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18:51:36  <PublicServer> <Puk> damn this is the stupidest bbh i ever got into xD
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18:54:47  <PublicServer> <Spike> my station should be easy to hookup to an MSH
18:55:17  <PublicServer> <Spike> an MSH on each side of the corner should do it
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18:59:00  <Ramsus08191> !password
18:59:01  <PublicServer> Ramsus08191: grudge
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19:00:34  <PublicServer> <Puk> yes first time you build a station like that ?
19:00:46  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> Hello
19:00:49  <PublicServer> <avdg> hey
19:00:50  <PublicServer> <Puk> hi =)
19:00:51  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> hows everybody doing?
19:01:06  <PublicServer> <Puk> fine and you ? =)
19:01:18  <VVG> !password
19:01:18  <PublicServer> VVG: grudge
19:01:18  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> Nice :)
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19:01:34  <VVG> !password
19:01:34  <PublicServer> VVG: dourer
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19:01:54  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> whoa, you guys went fast this time, Planning and voting in 2 days :)
19:02:02  <PublicServer> <avdg> 1 day
19:02:16  <VVG> 22 hours, actually
19:02:59  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> this map is small
19:03:04  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> interesting
19:03:18  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> I wont get lost so easily now
19:03:18  <PublicServer> <avdg> enough lines :p
19:03:23  <PublicServer> <VVG> i don't get what wood drop does :)
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19:14:11  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> this oil station... its kinda hipnotic
19:14:17  <PublicServer> <Gumili> yea, i know ;o
19:14:44  <PublicServer> <Gumili> i hope you accept it and it won't cause any jams ;o
19:15:01  <PublicServer> <avdg> BBH07 done I think
19:15:07  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> I would like to see it working :)
19:15:58  <PublicServer> <Puk> oh fuck myself
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19:16:24  <PublicServer> <Puk> oh finally not
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19:17:33  <PublicServer> <avdg> hey, wb
19:17:39  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> there are fissures in some buildings here too :)
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19:18:05  <Paltala> hey guys
19:18:10  <PublicServer> <avdg> hey paltala
19:18:10  <PublicServer> <Puk> hey
19:18:11  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> hello
19:18:33  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> and yes, I do waste time spoting those things....
19:18:37  <Paltala> we're still on the same PSG?!
19:18:48  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> new one now
19:18:49  <Gumili> Nope, its new one
19:19:03  <Paltala> oh, with the same build? weird
19:19:03  <PublicServer> <Puk> NAH
19:19:08  <PublicServer> <Puk> don't start disturbing me xD
19:19:12  <PublicServer> <Puk> i
19:19:15  <PublicServer> <Gumili> o.O
19:19:22  <Paltala> !password
19:19:22  <PublicServer> Paltala: scopes
19:19:25  <PublicServer> <Puk> need to eat but i have to finish this bbh -_-
19:19:30  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> why the former one was considered done? ppl got bored?
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19:20:05  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Thanks for the help, avdg
19:20:10  <PublicServer> <avdg> np
19:20:28  <PublicServer> <avdg> feeling like building bbh again
19:20:36  <PublicServer> <avdg> slowly :p
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19:21:22  <^Spike^> Ramsus08191 it was done in our eyes cause it was getting too hard for most and didn't have any jams to be annoying
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19:21:57  <PublicServer> <Paltala> wow, this oil well is being a right bitch
19:22:02  <PublicServer> <Paltala> in the way of BBH 05 XD
19:22:22  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> so, when tl is 5, the minimum CL is 5 as well...? I mean, I think I have heard that the CL is a little bit shorter then the TL.....
19:22:49  <PublicServer> <Paltala> ok, im going to have a crack at BBH 06...
19:22:52  <damalix2> @tl
19:22:52  <Webster> tl: TrainLength. Indicating the amount of tiles a train occupies, see also: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/User:Tim/Tilelength
19:22:52  <PublicServer> <Combuster> CL is atmost TL
19:22:58  <damalix2> @cl
19:22:58  <Webster> cl: Curve Length, mostly used to describe how big a curve must be to let pass trains with a certain TL at full speed, see also: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Max_Curve_Speed
19:23:35  <PublicServer> <Gumili> gimme trainzz
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19:23:54  <PublicServer> <avdg> wow, bbh 01 is giant
19:23:57  <magni> !password
19:23:57  <PublicServer> magni: scopes
19:23:57  <Ramsus08191> Thanks for the insight :)
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19:24:15  <PublicServer> <Paltala> just advanced warning guys but expect BBH 06 to be....messy to say the least
19:24:20  <PublicServer> <Gumili> so its LL_RR between rings ?
19:24:33  <PublicServer> <Puk> yeah i knoz .x
19:24:49  <PublicServer> <Gumili> one messy thingy is MSH03 and OIL REFINERY STATION :<
19:25:00  <PublicServer> <damalix2> ;)
19:25:15  <PublicServer> <Puk> but BBH04 has LLLRRR so
19:25:29  <PublicServer> <Puk> i' going LLL RRR between the ring as well
19:25:34  <PublicServer> <Gumili> LLLRRR i htink is better choice
19:25:43  <PublicServer> <Puk> yeah
19:27:00  <VVG> Ramsus08191: Cl depends on maximum train speed. For example, tl5 and max speed 120 do not need cl5, much less is enough, but 230 does need cl5. Iirc, there was  somewhere a formula in one of the blogposts on openttdcoop
19:27:38  <PublicServer> <Gumili> btw, what engine we are going to use?
19:27:39  <damalix2> Maximum speed in km/h = 231 - (13-CL)^2 ?
19:27:49  <PublicServer> <Puk> i don't know
19:27:54  <damalix2> @cl
19:27:54  <Webster> cl: Curve Length, mostly used to describe how big a curve must be to let pass trains with a certain TL at full speed, see also: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Max_Curve_Speed
19:27:56  <Ramsus08191> ah I see, yea, I have been reading the articles on wiki now
19:28:15  <Ramsus08191> yea, its that formula
19:28:41  <PublicServer> <Puk> Ok i' gonna go eat something and keep on working on BBH08 (which is awful i admit)
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19:28:57  <PublicServer> <Paltala> Puk, not going to be as bad as BBH 06
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19:29:31  <puk> well it's not awful, i just think it's unaesthetic .x
19:29:34  <puk> ^^
19:29:37  <Gumili> there goes my giant screenshot ;<
19:29:40  <Gumili> !password
19:29:40  <PublicServer> Gumili: scopes
19:29:46  <PublicServer> <damalix2> hey guys, stop saying your buildings are uggly
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19:31:08  <PublicServer> <Gumili> nice.. only 7 oil wells...
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19:31:49  <Ramsus08191> to be honest I think bbh08 kinda cool, its curvy and all, I am more concerned about CL issues but whatever
19:32:06  <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm... !here
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19:32:18  <PublicServer> <avdg> I think that won't work
19:32:28  <PublicServer> <Gumili> why not ?
19:32:28  <PublicServer> <avdg> 2 exits
19:32:37  <PublicServer> <avdg> better 1 exit and balance later
19:32:47  <PublicServer> <damalix2> where ?
19:33:48  <PublicServer> <Paltala> bbh 06 is shit so far :/
19:34:11  <PublicServer> <damalix2> the risk is that all trains chose the same exit
19:34:20  <VVG> !password
19:34:20  <PublicServer> VVG: newbie
19:34:22  <PublicServer> <Paltala> at mine?
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19:34:49  <PublicServer> <Combuster> waaaa
19:34:50  <PublicServer> <damalix2> but I don't know the PF enough to tell
19:34:54  <PublicServer> <damalix2> at 01
19:34:57  <PublicServer> <VVG> still no one claimed cetral drop?
19:35:02  <PublicServer> <Combuster> an industry just popped upp where I was building
19:35:13  <PublicServer> <damalix2> arf
19:35:15  <PublicServer> <Puk> AhahxD\
19:35:23  <PublicServer> <Gumili> lol
19:36:52  <PublicServer> <Paltala> gaahhh...can someone take over BBH 06?
19:36:58  <PublicServer> <Paltala> i cannot build like you guys XD
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19:37:10  <PublicServer> <Puk> where is bbho6
19:37:22  <PublicServer> <Puk> oh
19:37:25  <PublicServer> <damalix2> Just build as you feel it ;)
19:37:29  <PublicServer> <avdg> I have many concerns about BBH01
19:37:30  <PublicServer> <Paltala> im trying...
19:37:30  <PublicServer> <Puk> well go on it looks cool
19:37:36  <PublicServer> <Paltala> puk, its shite
19:37:44  <PublicServer> <damalix2> and if you don't feel a BBH then build a SLH or something ales
19:37:48  <PublicServer> <damalix2> else*
19:37:55  <PublicServer> <Paltala> im better at stations and stuff
19:38:04  <PublicServer> <Puk> Try
19:38:09  <PublicServer> <Paltala> but not with all the priorities and stuff :/
19:38:38  <puk> Give it a try
19:38:43  <puk> we'll help tyou
19:38:48  <PublicServer> <Paltala> bbh 06 or a station?
19:39:14  <PublicServer> <Puk> bbh06
19:39:17  <PublicServer> <Paltala> :/
19:40:10  <PublicServer> <damalix2> Build a draft if you need
19:40:18  <PublicServer> <Paltala> theres going to by loads of cl issues :/
19:40:28  <PublicServer> <damalix2> and build the crossing lines first
19:40:35  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> ok, start first with the crossing
19:40:35  <PublicServer> <Paltala> nah, ill build as i go
19:43:56  <PublicServer> <Paltala> am i still being watched? :P
19:44:16  <PublicServer> <avdg> im improving some stuff :p
19:44:20  <PublicServer> <Paltala> ah
19:44:54  <PublicServer> <avdg> don't worry, im not stalking, im only concerned about some issues :p
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19:48:25  <PublicServer> <Paltala> brb, getting food and drink
19:48:33  <puk> ok
19:48:37  <PublicServer> <avdg> leave some for us :p
19:50:09  <PublicServer> <Paltala> back with milk and quavers :D
19:50:15  <PublicServer> <avdg> lol
19:50:30  <PublicServer> <Paltala> can anyone give criticism and advice on my BBH?
19:50:30  <PublicServer> <Puk> i'm having pork chops and peppers
19:50:33  <PublicServer> <Paltala> nice
19:50:38  <PublicServer> * Gumili asks uncle google what quaves are
19:50:49  <PublicServer> <Gumili> quavers*
19:50:49  <PublicServer> <Paltala> quavers are a type of crisp
19:51:03  <PublicServer> <Paltala> they are curled and generally cheese flavoured
19:51:05  <PublicServer> <Paltala> very nice :D
19:51:06  <PublicServer> <Gumili> Ah
19:51:27  <PublicServer> <Gumili> nice combo :o
19:51:33  <PublicServer> <Paltala> :D
19:52:11  <PublicServer> <Puk> omk bbh08 has a big fat ass i gotta something to shrink it =
19:52:15  <PublicServer> <Puk> =x
19:52:29  <damalix2> paltala, you're working on BBH06 ?
19:52:36  <PublicServer> <Paltala> can i get advice/criticism/comments plz?
19:52:40  <PublicServer> <Paltala> yes
19:52:52  <PublicServer> <damalix2> Feel free to take a bit more space
19:53:10  <PublicServer> <damalix2> this will be easier to avoid CL issues
19:53:30  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> I think those exits are too close
19:53:56  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> less space for crossing inside
19:54:04  <PublicServer> <Paltala> then can someone MUCH better take over? im shite at hubs...
19:54:24  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> nah, just go on and evolve :)
19:54:36  <PublicServer> <avdg> I'm trying to relax atm
19:54:38  <PublicServer> <Paltala> but i cant build these sort of things...
19:54:49  <PublicServer> <avdg> where?
19:54:55  <PublicServer> <Paltala> BBh 06
19:55:13  <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm
19:55:28  <PublicServer> <Paltala> its gonna be utterly shite if i build it...
19:55:41  <Ramsus08191> Here, this article should help a lot http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/BBH
19:55:58  <PublicServer> <Paltala> but i cant build at that skill level v.v
19:56:07  <Ramsus08191> its simple, really
19:56:16  <PublicServer> <avdg> ... rebuild?
19:56:21  <PublicServer> <avdg> looks too complex :p
19:56:24  <PublicServer> <Paltala> BBH's made already dont look simple
19:56:31  <PublicServer> <Paltala> if someone else can rebuild...
19:56:38  <PublicServer> <avdg> I'll give it a try
19:56:52  <PublicServer> <Paltala> i said i would give it a crack, i have and its turned out shite :/
19:57:15  <PublicServer> <avdg> just remove these lines :p
19:57:23  <PublicServer> <Paltala> ...
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19:58:51  <Gumili> !password
19:58:51  <PublicServer> Gumili: decked
19:58:55  <puk> Im thinking about destroying bbh08 and rerebuilding it =p
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19:59:16  <PublicServer> <Paltala> BBH 08 looks like it will work
19:59:19  <PublicServer> <Paltala> my 06 wouldnt v.v
19:59:43  <puk> Yeah but we need space for a msh
20:00:05  <PublicServer> <damalix2> there is plenty of space
20:00:06  <PublicServer> <avdg> hm
20:00:17  <PublicServer> <avdg> I need more flat area at bbh06 :p
20:00:25  <PublicServer> <Paltala> FLATTEN IT!!
20:00:29  <PublicServer> <Paltala> >.<
20:00:47  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> Nooo, terrain is sacret
20:00:50  <PublicServer> <Spike> Paltala: now that's a bad thing...
20:00:57  <PublicServer> <Paltala> i know, its a joke :D
20:00:59  <PublicServer> <Spike> should i flatten the whole map cause i might need the area
20:01:05  <PublicServer> <Spike> instead of just doing it tile by tile
20:01:12  <PublicServer> <Paltala> dude, joke!!
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20:01:38  <PublicServer> <Puk> ok i destroy bbh08
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20:09:49  <PublicServer> <avdg> BBH06 has its structure
20:10:01  <PublicServer> <Combuster> BBH03 complete
20:11:29  <PublicServer> <avdg> someone feels like finishing BBH06?
20:11:50  <PublicServer> <Combuster> not really
20:11:58  <PublicServer> <Puk> xD
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20:12:11  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> I gotta leave now (being lazy :D)
20:12:15  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> bye
20:12:18  <PublicServer> <Combuster> cya
20:12:22  <PublicServer> <Gumili> but trainzz :<
20:12:29  <PublicServer> <avdg> just the joins, splits and connections
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20:12:48  <PublicServer> <Combuster> i.e. about everything :P
20:12:55  <PublicServer> <avdg> lol
20:13:25  <PublicServer> <avdg> need a time-out :p
20:13:47  <PublicServer> <Gumili> no time-outs! there are no time-outs on war!
20:14:07  <PublicServer> <Combuster> we're just Mazur's imps
20:14:08  <PublicServer> <avdg> I'll ask the enemy for a time-out then :p
20:14:13  <PublicServer> <Gumili> ;<
20:14:16  <PublicServer> <Combuster> we can party when he's not watching :)
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20:14:29  <damalix2> !players
20:14:31  <PublicServer> damalix2: Client 750 (Orange) is Max, in company 1 (Brodhattan Transport)
20:14:31  <PublicServer> damalix2: Client 895 (Orange) is Puk, in company 1 (Brodhattan Transport)
20:14:31  <PublicServer> damalix2: Client 815 (Orange) is Spike, in company 1 (Brodhattan Transport)
20:14:31  <PublicServer> damalix2: Client 929 (Orange) is Gumili, in company 1 (Brodhattan Transport)
20:14:31  <PublicServer> damalix2: Client 880 (Orange) is damalix2, in company 1 (Brodhattan Transport)
20:14:32  <PublicServer> damalix2: Client 915 (Orange) is Combuster, in company 1 (Brodhattan Transport)
20:14:32  <PublicServer> damalix2: Client 889 is avdg, a spectator
20:14:35  <PublicServer> <Gumili> true
20:15:04  <PublicServer> <Combuster> plus, I already have 2-and-a-half hub on my name
20:15:06  <PublicServer> <Puk> ah yeah it's going to look sharper
20:15:19  <PublicServer> <Gumili> i have one station and one msh, both messy ;p
20:15:47  <PublicServer> <Combuster> and BBH01 probably needs redoing
20:15:58  <PublicServer> <Gumili> probably :/
20:15:59  <PublicServer> <Combuster> it doesn't exit to LLLRRR
20:16:02  <PublicServer> <Gumili> Sharpy won't be happy
20:16:03  <PublicServer> * avdg guesses too
20:16:16  <PublicServer> <Gumili> BBH02 need more exits too
20:16:30  <PublicServer> <Combuster> at least the rest of that hub is decent...
20:16:32  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 000208B5: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000208B5.png
20:16:47  <PublicServer> <Puk> which one ?
20:16:50  <PublicServer> <Gumili> but why prios? ;o
20:17:04  <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm
20:17:10  <PublicServer> <avdg> nvm
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20:17:14  <PublicServer> <Gumili> lol
20:17:18  <PublicServer> <Combuster> prios where?
20:17:24  <PublicServer> <Gumili> BBH02
20:17:38  <PublicServer> <Spike> i know you guys are prio happy.. but...
20:17:49  <PublicServer> <Combuster> its a balancing trick
20:17:50  <PublicServer> <Spike> why would a ML train should be priod over a ML train
20:17:55  <PublicServer> <Gumili> Cause its ML!
20:18:01  <PublicServer> <Combuster> if you go back
20:18:01  <PublicServer> <Gumili> ML train > ML train!
20:18:16  <PublicServer> <Spike> better change the > for ==
20:18:19  <PublicServer> <Gumili> ;P
20:18:19  <PublicServer> <Combuster> each balancer exit has one preferred exit
20:18:25  <PublicServer> <Gumili> >= is enough
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20:18:55  <PublicServer> <avdg> beh
20:19:27  <PublicServer> <Gumili> if thats balancing, then its magic for me :o
20:20:26  <PublicServer> <Gumili> so there won't be any trainzz today? ;<
20:20:36  <PublicServer> <avdg> seems like not
20:20:36  <PublicServer> <damalix2> probbly not
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20:21:08  <PublicServer> <avdg> but if everybody builds something, maybe at 23:59 :p
20:21:22  <PublicServer> <Gumili> 1h 38min left ;o
20:21:38  <PublicServer> <Gumili> and i sux with hubs
20:21:42  <PublicServer> *** avdg has joined company #1
20:22:33  <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm... wich level of balance? merge or total balance?
20:22:38  <PublicServer> <avdg> @ BBH06
20:23:06  <PublicServer> <Puk> some peop[le did simple merge
20:23:07  <VVG> it's past 00.00 around here, so no, no trains at 23:59 P
20:23:10  <PublicServer> <Spike> Combuster: may i ask your opinion on what to do with FPP
20:23:13  <PublicServer> <avdg> lol
20:23:15  <PublicServer> <Puk> i' trying to full balance everything
20:23:16  <PublicServer> <Gumili> nooo ;(
20:23:41  <PublicServer> <avdg> 2x LLL5RRR is a bit overkill, no?
20:23:51  <PublicServer> <avdg> I think a total rebalance is a bit overkill
20:23:53  <PublicServer> <Gumili> FPP is RRLL? :o
20:24:58  <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm... howmany people at BBH06?
20:25:08  <PublicServer> <Gumili> everyone!
20:25:15  <PublicServer> <avdg> interesting
20:25:19  <PublicServer> <Gumili> yea
20:26:59  <PublicServer> <Gumili> nice speed ;o
20:27:02  <PublicServer> <avdg> uh... overkill
20:27:24  <PublicServer> <Gumili> wth? ;o
20:27:41  <PublicServer> <Gumili> mixer stuff? :o
20:27:45  <F223> !password
20:27:45  <PublicServer> F223: limber
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20:28:04  <PublicServer> <Gumili> i guess there will be no SLH in this place ;o
20:28:38  <PublicServer> <Combuster> spokes aren't good places for SLHs
20:28:41  <PublicServer> <Combuster> too little space
20:28:46  <PublicServer> <damalix2> isn't there 3 lines between BBH02 and BBH06 ?
20:29:00  <PublicServer> <Combuster> BBH02 is b0rk3d
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20:29:28  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Hello Yso
20:29:32  <PublicServer> <Yso> hiho
20:29:33  <PublicServer> <F223> Did the plan get removed?
20:29:38  <PublicServer> <damalix2> no
20:29:40  <PublicServer> <Combuster> SW corner
20:29:48  <PublicServer> <Combuster> only moved
20:29:50  <PublicServer> <avdg> :D
20:29:58  <PublicServer> <Combuster> *SE corner btw
20:30:02  <PublicServer> <Spike> Combuster: (take 2) Opinion on what to do with FPP
20:30:14  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Did I miss last time? O.o
20:30:16  <PublicServer> <F223> oh!  hello, plan
20:30:18  <PublicServer> <Spike> yeah
20:30:22  <PublicServer> <F223> ty, :D
20:30:23  <PublicServer> <Spike> also missed my IRC PM :)
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20:30:47  <PublicServer> <Combuster> OpenTTD is running fullscreen, I only see the bounced IRC
20:30:50  <PublicServer> <avdg> why do we need 2 balancers if we can do it with 1?
20:30:53  <PublicServer> <Spike> .... :)
20:31:02  <PublicServer> <Spike> not even maximized windowed mode? :)
20:31:05  <PublicServer> <Puk> Starting to be tired of bbh08 =x
20:31:08  <PublicServer> <Spike> really full screen? :)
20:31:15  <PublicServer> <Combuster> really
20:31:20  <PublicServer> <damalix2> ML between BBH02 and 06 isn't LLL RRR ?
20:31:24  <PublicServer> <Spike> oh well answer to my question? :D
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20:31:32  <PublicServer> <Combuster> FPP can be nuked imo
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20:31:35  <PublicServer> <Combuster> too few platforms
20:31:46  <PublicServer> <Spike> and design wise.. also misses something
20:31:47  <PublicServer> <Combuster> only connected to one of either line
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20:32:57  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Now the town's going to be really unhappy, but who cares :)
20:33:03  <PublicServer> <Spike> :)
20:33:04  <PublicServer> <Spike> do we? :D
20:33:06  <PublicServer> <avdg> nuke it
20:33:23  <PublicServer> <Combuster> wow
20:33:25  <PublicServer> <avdg> then we have a confirm :p
20:33:38  <PublicServer> <Combuster> it's actually friendly
20:33:49  <PublicServer> <Spike> yep
20:34:10  <PublicServer> <damalix2> I'll be off to sleep :)
20:34:18  <PublicServer> <damalix2> Good night
20:34:21  <PublicServer> <Spike> cya
20:34:24  <PublicServer> <damalix2> Cya omorow
20:34:25  <PublicServer> <Combuster> 'night
20:34:31  <PublicServer> <damalix2> ty
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20:34:38  <PublicServer> <avdg> cya
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20:35:37  <PublicServer> <Combuster> spike: PM replied :)
20:36:05  <PublicServer> <Puk> if someone feels like helping me on BBH08... It's too fat and I can't come up with smaller load balancer =x
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20:36:26  <PublicServer> <avdg> finally, maded a bbh again :p
20:36:30  <PublicServer> <Puk> gonna try to design something
20:36:40  <PublicServer> <Spike> oh god...
20:36:41  <PublicServer> <Spike> ;)
20:36:59  <PublicServer> <avdg> im still speaking about BBH06 :p
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20:45:35  <sharpy> !password
20:45:35  <PublicServer> sharpy: bulked
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20:46:11  <PublicServer> <avdg> hey sharpy
20:46:12  <PublicServer> <avdg> wb
20:46:20  <PublicServer> <sharpy> hey
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20:48:05  <PublicServer> <Gumili> yay! oil wells @ BBH05 got closed
20:48:22  <Eoin> @quickstar
20:48:23  <Eoin> @quickstart
20:48:25  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart
20:49:16  <Eoin> !dl win32
20:49:16  <PublicServer> Eoin: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r20146/openttd-trunk-r20146-windows-win32.zip
20:50:59  <Eoin> ![;ayers
20:51:03  <Eoin> !players
20:51:05  <PublicServer> Eoin: Client 750 (Orange) is Max, in company 1 (Brodhattan Transport)
20:51:05  <PublicServer> Eoin: Client 895 (Orange) is Puk, in company 1 (Brodhattan Transport)
20:51:05  <PublicServer> Eoin: Client 815 (Orange) is Spike, in company 1 (Brodhattan Transport)
20:51:05  <PublicServer> Eoin: Client 929 (Orange) is Gumili, in company 1 (Brodhattan Transport)
20:51:05  <PublicServer> Eoin: Client 931 (Orange) is F223, in company 1 (Brodhattan Transport)
20:51:06  <PublicServer> Eoin: Client 935 (Orange) is sharpy, in company 1 (Brodhattan Transport)
20:51:06  <PublicServer> Eoin: Client 915 (Orange) is Combuster, in company 1 (Brodhattan Transport)
20:51:08  <PublicServer> Eoin: Client 933 (Orange) is Yso, in company 1 (Brodhattan Transport)
20:51:08  <PublicServer> Eoin: Client 889 (Orange) is avdg, in company 1 (Brodhattan Transport)
20:51:28  <PeterT> spammar
20:51:38  <Eoin> shh
20:52:28  <PublicServer> <avdg> brodingstoke common water supply is a hard one to kill :p
20:52:45  <PublicServer> <Gumili> yea
20:52:46  <Yso> how many drop platforms should i make at the food processor?
20:53:06  <PublicServer> <Gumili> how many You want ^^
20:53:16  <^Spike^> PeterT seeing another channel seems Eoin isn't the spammer but well..
20:53:26  <PublicServer> <avdg> no need for tunnels :p
20:53:30  <PeterT> ^Spike^: ?
20:53:43  <PublicServer> <avdg> well keep the tunnels :p
20:53:53  <^Spike^> (22:51:25) (PeterT) spammar <--- comment applies to this and #openttd
20:53:54  <PublicServer> <Puk> nobody feels like helping me ? =;(
20:53:58  <PublicServer> <avdg> in hope they get less water :D
20:54:13  <Eoin> ^Spike^: :)
20:54:16  <PeterT> I have no idea what the hell you're talking about.
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20:54:43  <Eoin> !password
20:54:43  <PublicServer> Eoin: gargle
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20:54:55  <PeterT> Eoin gargles...
20:54:55  <PublicServer> <Eoin> allo
20:55:00  <PublicServer> <Puk> =)
20:55:01  <PeterT> finish the sentence ;)
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20:55:13  <PublicServer> <Gumili> s
20:55:21  <PublicServer> <Eoin> i normally puke at the thought of openttdcoop, cause of the crazyness
20:55:25  <PublicServer> <Eoin> but im going to give it a proper try :D
20:55:33  <PeterT> @slowstart
20:55:33  <Webster> Read everything on the wiki, and I mean everything
20:55:35  <VVG> !password
20:55:35  <PublicServer> VVG: gargle
20:55:47  <PublicServer> <Spike> good start @ the rubber/wood drop for a clean start ;)
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20:56:06  <PublicServer> <VVG> hehe
20:56:13  <PublicServer> <Spike> Yso: be original with the station? :D
20:56:16  <PublicServer> <Spike> even i took my time :D
20:56:27  <PublicServer> <Puk> Ok anyway gonna destroy the bbh and start over then
20:56:28  <PublicServer> <VVG> who gonna fit a msh between bbhs 08 and 07? ;)
20:56:38  <Beengalas> !help
20:56:38  <PublicServer> Beengalas: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands
20:56:39  <PublicServer> <Eoin> i need to look up my acronyms :P
20:56:55  <PublicServer> <VVG> easy solution :)
20:57:03  <Beengalas> !download
20:57:03  <PublicServer> Beengalas: !download autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|win32|win64|win9x
20:57:07  <PublicServer> <Puk> i know but i' mot not happy with it xD
20:57:22  <Beengalas> !download win32
20:57:22  <PublicServer> Beengalas: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r20146/openttd-trunk-r20146-windows-win32.zip
20:57:26  <Yso> i'm still not good at building things, so i stick with smthg easy and easily extensible
20:58:13  <PublicServer> <Spike> Yso:  take a challenge.. :)
20:58:19  <PublicServer> <Spike> challenge yourself.. :)
20:58:26  <PublicServer> <Spike> even i still do it :)
20:58:29  <PublicServer> <Spike> else it gets boring :)
20:58:35  <PublicServer> <sharpy> he's right
20:58:40  <PublicServer> <sharpy> test yourself
20:58:52  <PublicServer> <VVG> Spike, the wood drop is a 2way station?
20:58:54  <Yso> my challenge is getting the overflow right...
20:59:04  <PublicServer> <Spike> VVG: yes
20:59:14  <PublicServer> <Spike> can enter from both sides and exit
20:59:38  <Beengalas> !grf
20:59:38  <PublicServer> Beengalas: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/GRF (Version 7.3)
20:59:41  <PublicServer> <VVG> judging by layout, i guess olnly hafly mshs needed?
20:59:48  <PublicServer> <Spike> :)
20:59:53  <PublicServer> <VVG> one leading south another leading west
21:00:02  <PublicServer> <VVG> halfy*
21:00:15  <PublicServer> <Spike> fast learner ;)
21:01:34  <PublicServer> <Eoin> whats the smallest easiest thing i could start on xD
21:01:38  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 000050FB: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000050FB.png
21:01:55  <PublicServer> <avdg> if you like wires: try !todo rebalance
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21:02:26  <PublicServer> <Eoin> rebalance meaning? :D
21:02:32  <F223> !password
21:02:32  <PublicServer> F223: cocked
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21:02:41  <PublicServer> <Spike> VVG:  station exits can be split to 2 lines if you want to btw
21:02:45  <PublicServer> <avdg> just fixing some connections
21:02:46  <Beengalas> !password
21:02:46  <PublicServer> Beengalas: cocked
21:02:51  <PublicServer> <Spike> it's not restricted to just 1 line
21:04:19  <PublicServer> <avdg> how many trains would we put on this network?
21:04:25  <PublicServer> <F223> I'm confused with BBH01, doesn't seem to have the correct number of lines going south
21:04:26  <PublicServer> <Gumili> 2002!
21:04:30  <PublicServer> <avdg> lol
21:04:39  <PublicServer> <sharpy> in plan it said RRLL
21:04:46  <PublicServer> <sharpy> so i built it like that
21:04:46  <PublicServer> <Gumili> LLRR :o
21:04:52  <PublicServer> <sharpy> LLRR
21:04:55  <PublicServer> <sharpy> my bad
21:05:01  <PublicServer> <Gumili> thats for MS, btw ;o
21:05:04  <PublicServer> <Combuster> it says LLRR for main station spokes
21:05:08  <PublicServer> <F223> what is this I don't even...
21:05:10  <PublicServer> <Eoin> the building on here is bloody mental
21:05:12  <PublicServer> <Eoin> xD
21:05:18  <PublicServer> <Spike> which
21:05:22  <PublicServer> <sharpy> right, i shall redo my hub
21:05:22  <PublicServer> <Eoin> most of it
21:05:24  <PublicServer> <sharpy> :D
21:05:42  <PublicServer> <Eoin> im used to little 2 line pax with the odd pbs signal at junctions :D
21:05:57  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Welcome to openttdcoop
21:06:03  <PublicServer> <Combuster> where trains blow your mind :)
21:06:08  <PublicServer> <F223> BBH spokes are supposed to be LLLRRR, though, right?
21:06:10  <PublicServer> <Eoin> its not the trains
21:06:13  <PublicServer> <sharpy> yeah
21:06:14  <PublicServer> <Eoin> its the tracks :D
21:06:15  <PublicServer> <Gumili> yup
21:06:17  <PublicServer> <sharpy> i made the mistake
21:06:22  <PublicServer> <sharpy> i am fixing
21:06:25  <PublicServer> <F223> ahhhhhhhh
21:06:26  <PublicServer> <F223> ok
21:06:41  <PublicServer> <Combuster> F223: a member made the same mistake, don't worry about it
21:06:44  <PublicServer> <F223> remember when I said "I don't even"?  I do even now
21:06:48  <PublicServer> <F223> kk
21:06:53  <PublicServer> <sharpy> horrid ammounts of fixing to do
21:06:57  <PublicServer> <sharpy> i might just redo
21:07:00  <PublicServer> <sharpy> its a bit messy
21:07:02  <PublicServer> <F223> want some help?
21:07:09  <Beengalas> !password
21:07:09  <PublicServer> Beengalas: cocked
21:07:16  <PublicServer> <Eoin> is it right that i dont see any trains? :)
21:07:18  <PublicServer> <sharpy> let me try on my own, first BBH so i want to see if i can
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21:07:20  <PublicServer> <F223> kk
21:07:22  <PublicServer> <Eoin> is this just the infra creation stage?
21:07:25  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Eoin: we just started a new game
21:07:29  <PublicServer> <Beengalas> Hello folks
21:07:30  <PublicServer> <sharpy> i shall rage if i need help
21:07:32  <PublicServer> <Combuster> We're building the main infrastructure
21:07:34  <PublicServer> <F223> hahahahha
21:07:36  <PublicServer> <Eoin> got ya
21:07:51  <PublicServer> <F223> that copper mine at BBH05 makes me angry
21:07:52  <PublicServer> <VVG> Spike?
21:07:58  <PublicServer> <Combuster> we're only building for like, 5 hours now
21:08:02  <PublicServer> <Eoin> someone got angry at bbh01
21:08:10  <PublicServer> <sharpy> me, going to redo
21:08:16  <PublicServer> <Eoin> and i shall watch :P
21:08:24  <PublicServer> <sharpy> it will take me a long time :)
21:08:36  <PublicServer> <F223> I'm going to try my hand at building a BBH at BBH05
21:08:37  <PublicServer> <Eoin> ive got a packet of hob nobs
21:08:38  <PublicServer> <Eoin> try me xD
21:08:48  <VVG> Spike: Your station lacks 3->2 exit balancers :)
21:08:50  <PublicServer> <sharpy> lol, a test for me
21:08:56  <PublicServer> <sharpy> me vs ur pack or hob nobs
21:09:03  <PublicServer> <Combuster> I have enough popcorn for a month worth of trolls
21:09:05  <PublicServer> <Eoin> they are chocolate creme ones as well :P
21:09:10  <PublicServer> <Combuster> but work can do too :)
21:09:42  <PublicServer> <Puk> hey don't touch while i' working
21:09:45  <^Spike^> VVG that is MSH work ;)
21:10:10  <VVG> It's not!
21:10:15  <PublicServer> <sharpy> who rebuilt the lines?
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21:10:42  <PublicServer> <Puk> who is playing with my bbh ? =o
21:10:47  <PublicServer> <Eoin> im too busy stuffing my face with hobnobs and ir nbru
21:10:50  <PublicServer> <avdg> im just doing an other part
21:10:51  <PublicServer> <Eoin> dont look at me :P
21:10:51  <PublicServer> <Combuster> "Your" bbh?
21:10:59  <PublicServer> <Puk> no but like
21:11:14  <PublicServer> <Puk> I'm working on it so if people start modifying everything i'm lost =(
21:12:12  <PublicServer> <Puk> plus you're connecting stuff that don't go together =x
21:12:21  <PublicServer> <avdg> whoops :p
21:12:34  <PublicServer> <Puk> =p
21:12:50  <PublicServer> <Combuster> I take you're working at BBH08?
21:13:02  <PublicServer> <Puk> yes
21:13:34  <PublicServer> <Eoin> are there any >Really< small jobs :P
21:13:46  <PublicServer> <Gumili> there will
21:13:47  <PublicServer> <Combuster> not at the moment, no :(
21:13:54  <PublicServer> <Spike> well... we need a builders board ;)
21:14:02  <PublicServer> <Eoin> no problem, just looking around is fine xD
21:14:03  <PublicServer> <Spike> if you're up for placing signs :D
21:14:06  <PublicServer> <avdg> BBH08, at least if puk allows it
21:14:18  <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm new way to build BBH?
21:14:20  <PublicServer> <VVG> hm
21:14:29  <PublicServer> <Puk> yeah propose i mean
21:14:31  <PublicServer> <Combuster> I don't like the TF at BBH08
21:14:35  <PublicServer> <avdg> 1 building the architecture
21:14:36  <PublicServer> <Spike> i'm gonna slap Puk anyway if he leave it like that
21:14:37  <PublicServer> <VVG> Do i need an exit balancer at msh01s?
21:14:41  <PublicServer> <Puk> i' a bit nervous cause i spent like... 3 hours on it
21:14:44  <PublicServer> <avdg> then the others complete each 1 part
21:14:45  <PublicServer> <Eoin> any example of a builders board
21:14:46  <PublicServer> <Puk> finally destroyed it
21:14:48  <PublicServer> <Eoin> just everyones name?
21:14:54  <PublicServer> <Eoin> so they can claim what they are going to do?
21:14:58  <PublicServer> <Spike> Puk: it's not to demotivate you..
21:15:06  <PublicServer> <Spike> someone signed it for me ;)
21:15:13  <PublicServer> <Spike> we just want to learn it to you good :)
21:15:18  <PublicServer> <Combuster> you mean the CL? that's me
21:15:25  <PublicServer> <Puk> how much is the cl
21:15:28  <PublicServer> <Puk> 5 ?
21:15:28  <PublicServer> <Combuster> 5
21:16:22  <PublicServer> <Spike> CL again
21:16:24  <PublicServer> <Spike> ah
21:16:29  <PublicServer> <Spike> no comment
21:16:30  <PublicServer> <Spike> :)
21:16:40  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0001F367: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001F367.png
21:17:31  <PublicServer> <Eoin> that screenshot is so interesting
21:17:33  <PublicServer> <Eoin> desert tile!
21:19:01  <PublicServer> <Spike> puk
21:19:05  <PublicServer> <Spike> if you're gonna tunnel
21:19:08  <PublicServer> <Spike> better not merge
21:19:09  <PublicServer> <Puk> yes ?
21:19:12  <PublicServer> <Spike> and split again
21:19:14  <PublicServer> <Puk> ok
21:19:17  <PublicServer> <F223> what's the max speed these trains are going to be going at?
21:19:20  <PublicServer> <Spike> just leave them apart
21:19:23  <PublicServer> <Spike> eh...
21:19:37  <PublicServer> <Spike> depends on the loc we use
21:19:54  <PublicServer> <F223> kk
21:20:26  <^Spike^> !tunnels 5 9
21:20:26  <PublicServer> ^Spike^: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 5 and gap 9.
21:20:28  <^Spike^> !tunnels 5 10
21:20:29  <PublicServer> ^Spike^: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 5 and gap 10.
21:20:32  <^Spike^> @tunnels 5
21:20:32  <Webster> ^Spike^: For Trainlength of 5: <= 11 needs 2, 12 - 18 needs 3, 19 - 25 needs 4.
21:21:17  <PublicServer> <Spike> still cl :)
21:21:40  <PublicServer> <avdg> complainer :p
21:21:46  <PublicServer> <avdg> move more stuff :p
21:23:13  <PublicServer> <sharpy> avdg, i now see what you mean about balancer out the junction :)
21:23:23  <PublicServer> <avdg> ?
21:23:44  <PublicServer> <sharpy> u left  a sign at BBH01, move the balancers out the hub or something
21:23:48  <PublicServer> <avdg> ah
21:24:12  <PublicServer> <avdg> start with the ml crossings if you construct a bbh
21:24:19  <PublicServer> <Spike> Puk:  see that sometimes it's easy ;)
21:24:26  <PublicServer> <Puk> yeah xD
21:24:35  <PublicServer> <sharpy> yeah, i'm on it
21:24:40  <PublicServer> <avdg> if you done that, its just connecting
21:25:57  <PublicServer> <Puk> so spike
21:26:05  <PublicServer> <Spike> ?
21:26:05  <PublicServer> <Puk> you're load balancing the merging track
21:26:13  <PublicServer> <Spike> nop not me
21:26:17  <PublicServer> <Spike> i'm not building
21:26:20  <PublicServer> <Spike> just looking
21:26:23  <PublicServer> <Puk> you did I mean
21:26:53  <PublicServer> <Combuster> I did the south side, if that's what you wanted to hea
21:26:57  <PublicServer> <Combuster> *hear
21:27:06  <PublicServer> <Combuster> and I added a note on your CL question
21:27:21  <puk> Oh no i was asking about the technique you used then =)
21:27:38  <PublicServer> <Combuster> The technique I used?
21:28:06  <puk> well
21:28:16  <F223> !bridges 5 2
21:28:20  <F223> !tunnels 52
21:28:20  <PublicServer> F223: !tunnels <trainlength> <gap>: Returns amount of tunnels/bridges needed. Formula: (<gap>+<trainlength>-2)/(<trainlength>+2)
21:28:22  <F223> oops
21:28:29  <F223> !tunnels 5 2
21:28:29  <PublicServer> F223: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 5 and gap 2.
21:28:42  <puk> I used  signs
21:28:49  <PublicServer> <Combuster> basically all I'm doing is splitting trains over two lanes
21:29:00  <F223> !tunnels 5 4
21:29:00  <PublicServer> F223: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 5 and gap 4.
21:29:17  <PublicServer> <Combuster> so that the load gets distributed before merging
21:29:25  <PublicServer> <Puk> ahah ok
21:29:40  <F223> for the tunnel command, how do you know what the "gap" is?
21:29:48  <PublicServer> <Puk> and 3 tiles between to curve still works with a Cl of 5 ?
21:30:02  <PublicServer> <Puk> I guess not
21:30:04  <PublicServer> <Combuster> the train will slow down
21:30:19  <PublicServer> <Puk> ok thx you =)
21:30:21  <F223> !tunnels 5 6
21:30:21  <PublicServer> F223: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 5 and gap 6.
21:30:27  <PublicServer> <Combuster> The only thing you do is measure the length of the curve
21:30:39  <PublicServer> <Combuster> and make sure it doesn't get below the minimal CL
21:30:55  <PublicServer> <Puk> yup
21:31:16  <PublicServer> <Eoin> you lot use pre signals
21:31:21  <PublicServer> <Combuster> which in most cases is the same as TL
21:31:23  <PublicServer> <Eoin> ive not used them for soo long xD
21:31:32  <PublicServer> <Combuster> presignals > PBS
21:31:40  <PublicServer> <Eoin> i cant remember how to presignal xD
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21:31:42  <PublicServer> <Eoin> im so fail
21:31:50  <PublicServer> <Eoin> this is what not playing ottd for ages does to you!
21:32:26  <PublicServer> <Combuster> My favorite bad habit before getting into #openttdcoop is doing 45_45s
21:32:47  <puk> 45 45 ?
21:32:54  <PublicServer> <Eoin> 45 degree turns
21:33:03  <puk> oh yeah
21:33:18  <PublicServer> <Combuster> single-tile curves
21:34:07  <PublicServer> <Combuster> I did have some idea about other building techniques
21:34:13  <PublicServer> <Beengalas> Combuster, doesn't BBH04 lack a few signal? To the east of it?
21:34:35  <PublicServer> <Combuster> could you sign?
21:34:42  <PublicServer> <Beengalas> Done 'Here'
21:34:55  <PublicServer> <Combuster> that's intentional
21:34:58  <PublicServer> <Beengalas> nvm, I see now.
21:34:59  <PublicServer> <Spike> signal gap i uess
21:35:19  <PublicServer> <Combuster> guaranteed non-blocking waiting space
21:35:34  <PublicServer> <Combuster> you can fit exactly one train in there
21:35:34  <PublicServer> <Beengalas> I learned all my tricks from coopottd, but when I finally join, it looks like a maze...
21:36:03  <PublicServer> <VVG> Spike?
21:36:14  <PublicServer> <Beengalas> but why double exit signals?
21:36:16  <PublicServer> <Combuster> I used to play with original physics... where every turn slows you down
21:36:41  <PublicServer> <Combuster> and less bends was more important than wide bends
21:37:04  <PublicServer> <Puk> I failed again
21:37:09  <VVG> Spike: There is 3 lanes from ml, do you think a balancers between them needed for your wood drop? Or a straight connection will suffice?
21:37:10  <PublicServer> <Puk> the tunneling was a bad idea
21:37:29  <PublicServer> <Combuster> from ML to drop is 2+2 lanes
21:37:34  <PublicServer> <Combuster> you need a balancer
21:37:41  <VVG> check wood drop
21:37:48  <VVG> it has 3 entrances anyway :)
21:38:18  <PublicServer> <VVG> And so, i don't see a point 3->2 first then 2->3
21:38:31  <PublicServer> <avdg> msh 07 is bigger then I expected :p
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21:38:53  <PublicServer> <Combuster> I see a lot of rail, but only 6 platforms
21:39:00  <PublicServer> <Combuster> that's asking for problems...
21:39:39  <PublicServer> <Eoin> what is "sync"
21:39:41  <PublicServer> <Combuster> the station only has one ML lane worth of capacity
21:39:58  <PublicServer> <VVG> they are 2way
21:40:08  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Eoin: that split lane has the same length until its merge
21:40:19  <PublicServer> <VVG> i guess if train don't get nearest platform, it will travel to another half of the station
21:40:29  <PublicServer> <Combuster> so if you split trains left and right, they get back together at the same distance
21:40:34  <PublicServer> <Eoin> ahhhh
21:40:39  <PublicServer> <Combuster> (and thus, do not wait and cause stalls)
21:40:40  <^Spike^> Combuster we used this station in an earlier game and had no problem with load there
21:41:24  <VVG> What about balancer? Is it needed? Or it may be added later if traffic demands it?
21:41:30  <^Spike^> and it's 12 platforms btw Combuster :)
21:41:38  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Found them
21:41:46  <PublicServer> <Combuster> just nasty they are so far away
21:41:46  <PublicServer> <Puk> combuster can you bbho08  plz ? =O
21:42:02  <PublicServer> <Spike> someone TFed at my station
21:42:13  <PublicServer> <avdg> puk, check msh 07
21:42:18  <PublicServer> <Spike> the N part had some TF next to it
21:42:19  <PublicServer> <avdg> can you do that?
21:42:20  <PublicServer> <Spike> now it's all gone
21:42:53  <PublicServer> <Combuster> There's only one route missing at BBH08
21:43:11  <PublicServer> <Combuster> it shouldn't be that difficult
21:43:26  <PublicServer> <Puk> yeah
21:43:27  <PublicServer> <Spike> VVG:  btw i would do a balancer... the entrance is made for balancing if you look at it
21:43:31  <PublicServer> <Puk> I think i can
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21:43:56  <PublicServer> <avdg> hey chris
21:44:08  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Its the inevitable Chris Booth!
21:44:11  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> hi all
21:44:13  <PublicServer> <Combuster> ev'ning
21:44:23  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> inevitable?
21:44:33  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> why is that Combuster?
21:44:33  <VVG> May be it can be done later, with actual traffic in mind?
21:44:49  <PublicServer> <Spike> could try that VVG
21:45:08  <PublicServer> <Combuster> I may make a TV-style introduction for you, can't I? :)
21:45:22  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no that is cool
21:45:30  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i thought i had done something wrong
21:45:55  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and was about to hid as i would normal
21:45:56  <PublicServer> <Combuster> you stole my plan, but otherwise... :)
21:46:08  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I improved your plan
21:46:15  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i liked it but i wanted RVs
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21:47:02  <PublicServer> <Combuster> If you want RVs, make an RV plan
21:47:20  <PublicServer> <Eoin> id be happy to help you with your RVs
21:47:22  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i did kinda
21:47:24  <PublicServer> <Eoin> no complex junctions with them xD
21:47:37  <PublicServer> <Combuster> No?
21:47:51  <PublicServer> <Combuster> you have no idea
21:48:09  <PublicServer> <Eoin> ...openttdcoop fails to amaze/confuse me
21:48:10  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> RVs can have compledx stations and junctions
21:48:16  <PublicServer> <Eoin> never*
21:48:54  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> avdg: you given up on MSH 07?
21:48:57  <PublicServer> <Combuster> What you see here is all simple stuff
21:49:02  <PublicServer> <Eoin> simple?
21:49:04  <PublicServer> <avdg> no, I want variation :p
21:49:07  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yes
21:49:08  <PublicServer> <Eoin> its giving me a headache xD
21:49:24  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> we need some SML or tight packing
21:49:32  <PublicServer> <avdg> is it too hard to unwire msh 07?
21:49:59  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i dont want to distroy it
21:50:06  <Combuster> Eoin: if you want some epic stuff: http://www.openttdcoop.org/files/publicserver_archive/PublicServerGame_157_Final.sav
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21:50:22  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I love Atown
21:50:24  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> lol
21:50:38  <PublicServer> <F223> do you think that any trains will be going faster than 257 km/h?
21:50:38  <PublicServer> <Gumili> lets build statue there!
21:50:54  <Combuster> CB: why declaring the need for SML/compressors when there aren't even trains? O.o
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21:51:23  <PublicServer> <Combuster> F223: the train we'll use goes 257/h, IIRC
21:51:25  <PublicServer> <Eoin> chris, if you do want to do Rvs, ill try and follow along with you :P
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21:51:29  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no to add complexity to the build
21:51:44  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> Eoin: not in this game
21:51:59  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> RVs where part of my proposed plan
21:52:01  <sharpy> !password
21:52:01  <PublicServer> sharpy: unwary
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21:53:47  <avdg> !password
21:53:47  <PublicServer> avdg: unwary
21:53:51  <PublicServer> <VVG> bleh
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21:54:06  <PublicServer> <VVG> how do i connect msh to a station now while staying in sync?
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21:57:21  <PublicServer> <Puk> lol this junction is loose
21:58:12  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> who is building BBH01?
21:58:16  <PublicServer> <sharpy> me
21:58:21  <PublicServer> <sharpy> i am balancing at the end
21:58:30  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> are you sure?
21:58:38  <PublicServer> <sharpy> yes
21:58:44  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> klklkl
21:58:50  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> then i will be quite
21:59:08  <PublicServer> <sharpy> lol, feel free to tell me, i am a relative novice
21:59:52  <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm
22:00:01  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> sharpy: i wouldnt listen to me
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22:01:16  <PublicServer> <Puk> I finished Combuster =p
22:01:24  <PublicServer> <Puk> If you want to give it a quick check
22:01:47  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0002315F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002315F.png
22:01:55  <PublicServer> <Combuster> a ton of missing signals...
22:02:03  <PublicServer> <Puk> i'm putting them
22:02:10  <PublicServer> <VVG> i think i'm done with msh01s
22:02:19  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Otherwise, no complaints
22:02:33  <PublicServer> <Combuster> it lacks balancing though...
22:02:44  <PublicServer> <Puk> where ?
22:03:01  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> BBH 08 has a slow
22:03:18  <PublicServer> <Combuster> sorry missed it
22:03:25  <PublicServer> <Combuster> it's far too late here...
22:03:38  <PublicServer> <Combuster> CB: sign it?
22:03:40  <PublicServer> <VVG> Do we have builsders board yet?
22:03:43  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no i am wrong
22:03:47  <PublicServer> <Combuster> nvm, I see it
22:04:07  <PublicServer> <Puk> it's a cl ?
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22:04:24  <PublicServer> <Combuster> it is
22:04:32  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> the one i put is
22:04:34  <PublicServer> <Combuster> three tiles between two right turns
22:05:07  <PublicServer> <Puk> ok
22:05:09  <PublicServer> <Puk> :D
22:05:19  <PublicServer> <Puk> thx you sir
22:05:20  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> Combuster: check is this
22:05:21  <PublicServer> <Combuster> btw
22:05:36  <PublicServer> <avdg> lol
22:05:44  <PublicServer> <Combuster> if you are using my balancer concept, each split should be able to hold a complete train
22:05:48  <PublicServer> <avdg> donno what I'm doing right now
22:06:06  <PublicServer> <Combuster> CB: ?
22:06:07  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> just floating arround avdg?
22:06:15  <PublicServer> <avdg> yeah
22:06:23  <PublicServer> <Combuster> wow, how do you do that?
22:06:31  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i am never sure on my Cls
22:06:37  <PublicServer> <Puk> Oh ok cause Usually i load balance the merger but i could'nt find a way to do it without taking too much space
22:06:44  <PublicServer> <Combuster> that's a CL too
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22:07:13  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> sorry for distroying your lovely work
22:07:30  <PublicServer> <Puk> it's alright :)
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22:08:25  <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm
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22:08:33  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> MSH 05 and BBH 05 are fucking close
22:08:39  <PublicServer> <avdg> the space between bbh and msh is very small
22:08:44  <Combuster> They are on the plan too
22:08:44  <PublicServer> <avdg> you know what: merge them
22:08:50  <PublicServer> <sharpy> its going to be a tight map
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22:09:24  <Combuster> It'll be alright, with some care
22:09:49  <Combuster> You can almost fit a SL between BBH04 and BBH08
22:09:52  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i am worried about the SLH placement
22:10:23  <Combuster> why?
22:10:30  <PublicServer> <avdg> chris boot: merged junctions are the solution
22:10:34  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> its going to be a tight fit
22:11:01  <PublicServer> <avdg> instead of 1 join after a split you just combine them
22:11:08  <PublicServer> <avdg> increasing capacity too
22:11:10  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yes hack SLHs into BBHs and MSHs would be interesting
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22:11:27  <Combuster> SLHs are partial junctions from LR to LLLRRR
22:11:33  <Combuster> much less than a BBH
22:11:44  <Combuster> and even those don't eat that much space
22:12:08  <Combuster> anyway, I'm off for the night
22:12:16  <Combuster> it's far too late
22:12:51  <PublicServer> <Puk> Ahah thx for the sign Comb =)
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22:13:16  <PublicServer> <Puk> and have a good night
22:13:51  <PublicServer> <sharpy> can someone check my hub so far? BBH01
22:14:31  <PublicServer> <Gumili> yup
22:14:41  <PublicServer> <sharpy> yup, my bad, i shall correct
22:15:11  <PublicServer> <Gumili> Check !this2
22:15:18  <PublicServer> <sharpy> awes
22:16:01  <PublicServer> <Gumili> and add some lightzz :P
22:16:06  <PublicServer> <sharpy> yeah cause
22:16:15  <PublicServer> <sharpy> i'm just making sure no track issues atm
22:16:49  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00013F0D: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00013F0D.png
22:16:49  <PublicServer> <sharpy> ha, ah yes, this2 is ancient
22:17:01  <PublicServer> <Max> New !CL
22:17:09  <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm have an idea
22:17:14  <PublicServer> <sharpy> jesus i am an actual idiot
22:17:16  <PublicServer> <Gumili> looks fine ;P
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22:18:43  <PublicServer> <sharpy> night
22:18:47  <PublicServer> <Gumili> have fun :o
22:19:24  <PublicServer> <sharpy> now i just need to balance the behemoth and its ready to light it up
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22:19:53  <PublicServer> <Gumili> so trainzz?
22:20:02  <PublicServer> <avdg> nope
22:20:05  <PublicServer> <Gumili> lol.. wtf @centre
22:21:02  <PublicServer> <F223> god, I wish there was a copy/paste function.  I'm just a few tiles too far forward U_U
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22:21:35  <PublicServer> <Gumili> copy paste would be useful..
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22:22:45  <PublicServer> <Gumili> ok, im gonna go to sleep too
22:22:52  <PublicServer> <Gumili> Have fun guys!
22:22:54  <PublicServer> <Gumili> Cya
22:22:56  <PublicServer> <avdg> gn
22:22:57  <PublicServer> <F223> o/
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22:23:04  <PublicServer> <avdg> going to sleep as well :p
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22:23:33  <PublicServer> <sharpy> sorry, i'm intruding on you F223
22:25:03  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i am off to bed
22:25:07  <PublicServer> <avdg> gn
22:25:08  <PublicServer> <F223> cya
22:25:10  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> have to go to work tomoz
22:25:11  <PublicServer> <F223> np, sharpy
22:25:12  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> night
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22:25:19  <PublicServer> <F223> feel free :P  I'm probably doing a poor job
22:25:42  <PublicServer> <sharpy> its my first BBH, and i had to redo it :)
22:25:47  <PublicServer> <F223> same :P
22:25:50  <PublicServer> <sharpy> takes ages to get into the rythm
22:26:06  <PublicServer> <avdg> :p
22:26:11  <PublicServer> <avdg> im even not thinking atm
22:26:16  <PublicServer> <avdg> not good...
22:26:17  <PublicServer> <sharpy> lol
22:26:37  <PublicServer> <sharpy> avdg, is BBH08 balanced?
22:26:40  <Qanael_> !password
22:26:40  <PublicServer> Qanael_: meadow
22:26:41  <PublicServer> <avdg> but normally i'm thinking too much
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22:26:49  <PublicServer> <Puk> yes it is
22:27:00  <PublicServer> <Puk> why ?
22:27:22  <PublicServer> <sharpy> i'm trying to figure out what i need to do to my hub to balance it :)
22:27:54  <PublicServer> <Puk> hum
22:28:03  <PublicServer> <sharpy> am i right inthinking
22:28:21  <PublicServer> <sharpy> balancing is when a train can reach any exit line from any entrance line?
22:28:26  <PublicServer> <Puk> right
22:28:37  <PublicServer> <Puk> we're not exactly balancing
22:28:39  <PublicServer> <sharpy> so where you signed, i should
22:28:46  <PublicServer> <Puk> but splitting the load
22:29:04  <PublicServer> <sharpy> ah, so i should add the option to at least one other line
22:29:30  <PublicServer> <Max> Does anything need building?
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22:29:58  <puk> hum
22:30:02  <puk> well if you look
22:30:05  <puk> on bbh08
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22:30:16  <PublicServer> <sharpy> i am there
22:30:32  <PublicServer> <Puk> this is a good system
22:30:36  <PublicServer> <sharpy> i see
22:30:49  <PublicServer> <Puk> it's on the three joins
22:30:50  <PublicServer> <sharpy> so inner goes one out, middle one out, out to in
22:31:15  <PublicServer> <Puk> well it's like each track is splitted in two
22:31:18  <PublicServer> <sharpy> yeah
22:31:23  <PublicServer> <sharpy> and merges with another
22:31:27  <PublicServer> <Puk> that are going to form the three merging tracks
22:31:34  <PublicServer> <sharpy> right, got you
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22:32:02  <PublicServer> <Puk> gonna take care of a msh
22:32:21  <PublicServer> <Puk> \have to go =_
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22:32:27  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Where should primary pickups connect to?
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22:34:31  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Gotta go
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22:35:36  <PublicServer> <sharpy> true
22:35:47  <PublicServer> <sharpy> i think its a lot easier than that
22:35:56  <PublicServer> <F223> D: ok, well, my head asplode now
22:36:04  <PublicServer> <sharpy> lol
22:36:15  <PublicServer> <sharpy> i say make it simple on that side
22:36:20  <PublicServer> <sharpy> and cross over on the other
22:36:58  <PublicServer> <F223> My head's exploding right now.  I don't think I can do BBH05, someone else take over, this is wayyyy over my head :P
22:37:05  <PublicServer> <sharpy> nah
22:37:15  <PublicServer> <sharpy> just remember the topology i am laying out
22:38:05  <PublicServer> <sharpy> it seemed to work for me
22:38:13  <PublicServer> <sharpy> i can't guarantee it
22:38:20  <PublicServer> <sharpy> it might be shunned as not the done thing
22:38:22  <PublicServer> <F223> oh, oops
22:38:27  <PublicServer> <sharpy> but no one complained
22:38:31  <PublicServer> <F223> god, I keep getting confused on directions U_U
22:38:39  <PublicServer> <sharpy> lable them
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22:42:45  <PublicServer> <sharpy> someones nuking MSH 05!
22:42:55  <PublicServer> <sharpy> didn't look good anyhow
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22:56:55  <F223> gtg, cya, guys
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22:57:10  <PublicServer> <sharpy> later
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23:05:55  <PublicServer> <sharpy> hello
23:06:04  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hi, sharpy.
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23:20:13  <rasco> heyas
23:20:21  <PublicServer> <sharpy> hiya
23:20:27  <rasco> do i need to compile myself to get on the public server?
23:20:52  <Max|> !dl
23:20:52  <PublicServer> Max|: !dl autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|win32|win64|win9x
23:21:11  <rasco> !dl lin
23:21:11  <PublicServer> rasco: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r20146/openttd-trunk-r20146-linux-generic-i686.tar.bz2
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23:23:27  <XeryusTC> !password
23:23:27  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: demote
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23:23:47  <Pusling> !help
23:23:47  <PublicServer> Pusling: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands
23:24:10  <PublicServer> <Eoin> allo xeryus
23:24:16  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hey Eoin
23:24:22  <Pusling> !password
23:24:22  <PublicServer> Pusling: demote
23:24:25  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> didnt expect to see you here
23:24:31  <PublicServer> <Eoin> neither did i
23:24:39  <PublicServer> <Eoin> decided to try and learn the ways of openttdcoop
23:24:44  <PublicServer> <Eoin> its bloody confusing xD
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23:26:21  <rasco> !password
23:26:21  <PublicServer> rasco: demote
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23:27:06  <PublicServer> <rasco> Is there a "mission" to accomplish?
23:30:53  <PublicServer> <Mazur> See the Network Plan.
23:31:36  <PublicServer> <Eoin> MSH07 needs finished
23:31:38  <PublicServer> <Mazur> H<ave you read the @quickstart webpages?
23:31:59  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00015526: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00015526.png
23:32:19  <PublicServer> <sharpy> i'm going to attempt to finish BBH05
23:32:37  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Good show.
23:35:04  <PublicServer> <rasco> okay i think i get it
23:35:47  <PublicServer> <rasco> have you thought about playing the same map and trying to improve?
23:39:04  <Qanael_> ok, now I'm back for a good bit of time
23:39:07  <Qanael_> !password
23:39:07  <PublicServer> Qanael_: oracle
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23:39:22  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> back
23:40:18  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Will a new factory spawn for the copper ore drop or will we use the one that's there in the corner?
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23:40:39  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, seems i misinterpreted the plan xD
23:41:04  <PublicServer> <sharpy> i did too
23:41:07  <PublicServer> <sharpy> dw :)
23:42:17  <PublicServer> <Mazur> 30 lashes.
23:42:31  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Oh, no:
23:42:34  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Minimal terraforming, right?
23:42:43  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Cooler!  30 days.
23:42:48  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I think I'll start work on the copper ore drop
23:42:48  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Correct.
23:43:23  <PublicServer> <Qanael> What's CL for this game?
23:43:27  <PublicServer> <Eoin> 5
23:43:28  <PublicServer> <sharpy> 5
23:43:31  <PublicServer> <Qanael> hanks
23:43:34  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Thanks*
23:43:38  <PublicServer> <Mazur> XeryusTC: on the other hand, we do need to keep room enoughh for SLH.
23:44:26  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it seems there is enought room ont he outer ring
23:44:29  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> might not on the middle
23:44:33  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Is it alright to use one of the lines from MSH for drop and one for pickup, or should they both have choice?
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23:45:09  <PublicServer> <Gnemo> a decision has to made at somepoint
23:45:14  <PublicServer> <Mazur> XeryusTC: Indeed, might have to forego SDLH on the inner ring.
23:45:20  <PublicServer> <Gnemo> whether at the station, or at the msh
23:45:46  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Well, I'm guessing the number of trains might be pretty similar, but I think I'll implement choice anyhow
23:45:51  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Shouldn't be all that difficult
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23:49:39  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Any suggestions for the number of lanes for the copper ore drop?
23:50:00  <PublicServer> <sharpy> make it expandable what ever number
23:50:36  <PublicServer> <Mazur> *weep*  My ancestral farm died off.
23:50:50  <Razaekel> it's all about increasing the size to meet the demand, if you know what i mean

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