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00:04:53 *** Barbaar has quit IRC 00:20:59 *** roboboy has joined #openttdcoop 00:42:05 *** Hippidy has quit IRC 01:01:09 <PublicServer> *** avdg has left the game (leaving) 01:49:09 *** roboboy has quit IRC 01:58:36 *** roboboy has joined #openttdcoop 02:35:31 *** Fuco has quit IRC 03:04:46 *** avdg has quit IRC 03:07:03 *** gr00vy has quit IRC 03:07:16 *** gr00vy has joined #openttdcoop 04:38:48 *** VVG has joined #openttdcoop 04:52:54 <VVG> morning 04:53:10 <VVG> !players 04:53:13 <PublicServer> VVG: There are currently no clients connected to the server 05:16:56 <VVG> smog is back :( you can't see shit farther than 1 km. Or even less. :( 05:25:17 *** benom has joined #openttdcoop 05:31:00 *** devilsadvocate has joined #openttdcoop 05:38:01 *** benom has quit IRC 06:17:04 *** Deamonhunter11 has joined #openttdcoop 06:18:59 <Deamonhunter11> !password 06:18:59 <PublicServer> Deamonhunter11: wirier 06:19:14 <PublicServer> *** Deamonhunter11 joined the game 06:30:48 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 06:37:29 *** ^Spike^ has joined #openttdcoop 06:37:29 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ^Spike^ 06:44:13 <VVG> !password 06:44:13 <PublicServer> VVG: awakes 06:44:27 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 06:44:30 <PublicServer> *** VVG joined the game 06:44:31 <VVG> sure i do 06:44:55 <PublicServer> *** VVG has joined spectators 06:44:55 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 06:45:14 <PublicServer> <Deamonhunter11> what 06:45:25 <PublicServer> <VVG> hm 06:45:29 <PublicServer> <VVG> thought you were afk 06:45:40 <PublicServer> <VVG> you want to build something? 06:46:01 <PublicServer> <Deamonhunter11> nah just looking at other websites 06:46:28 <PublicServer> <Deamonhunter11> plus i don't know what to build. i'm too new 06:46:37 <PublicServer> <VVG> bad manners afking while in company :p 06:47:04 <PublicServer> <Deamonhunter11> I'm looking at both the game and other websites 06:47:07 <PublicServer> *** Deamonhunter11 has joined spectators 06:50:24 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000160B9: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000160B9.png 06:51:33 <PublicServer> *** VVG has left the game (leaving) 06:54:44 <PublicServer> *** Deamonhunter11 has joined company #1 06:55:27 <PublicServer> *** Deamonhunter11 has joined spectators 06:59:43 *** roboboy has quit IRC 07:02:50 *** roboboy has joined #openttdcoop 07:04:22 *** HanziQ has joined #openttdcoop 07:04:48 <PublicServer> *** Deamonhunter11 has joined company #1 07:04:53 <HanziQ> hi 07:04:54 <HanziQ> !password 07:04:54 <PublicServer> HanziQ: sicker 07:05:25 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000041C2: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000041C2.png 07:06:16 <HanziQ> !password 07:06:16 <PublicServer> HanziQ: toning 07:06:21 <PublicServer> <Deamonhunter11> hello 07:06:24 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 07:06:27 <PublicServer> *** HanziQ joined the game 07:13:48 *** slaca has joined #openttdcoop 07:14:06 <slaca> !password 07:14:06 <PublicServer> slaca: toning 07:14:23 <PublicServer> *** slaca joined the game 07:14:56 <PublicServer> *** slaca has left the game (leaving) 07:15:00 *** slaca has quit IRC 07:18:23 <PublicServer> *** HanziQ has left the game (leaving) 07:18:23 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 07:18:31 <PublicServer> *** Deamonhunter11 has joined spectators 07:20:25 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00038198: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00038198.png 07:40:45 *** devilsadvocate has quit IRC 07:48:26 *** Phazorx has joined #openttdcoop 07:48:26 *** Webster sets mode: +o Phazorx 07:49:18 *** ODM has joined 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<PublicServer> <Paltala> yours is nicer than mine was D: 10:12:01 <PublicServer> *** Deamonhunter11 joined the game 10:13:03 *** dihedral has left #openttdcoop 10:13:50 *** Deamonhunter11 has quit IRC 10:13:54 <PublicServer> *** Deamonhunter11 has left the game (connection lost) 10:14:44 *** Absolutis has joined #openttdcoop 10:14:48 <Absolutis> !password 10:14:48 <PublicServer> Absolutis: streak 10:15:01 <PublicServer> <Paltala> hey absolutis 10:16:08 <Absolutis> hai 10:16:20 <PublicServer> <Paltala> my password was orphan D: 10:16:41 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 10:16:45 <PublicServer> *** Absolutis joined the game 10:20:26 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00014899: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00014899.png 10:23:13 *** benom has joined #openttdcoop 10:24:07 *** Combuster has joined #openttdcoop 10:30:40 *** mixrin has quit IRC 10:33:28 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> weapons pickup needs overflows 10:33:43 <PublicServer> <Paltala> whats it near? 10:33:55 <PublicServer> <Paltala> nvm 10:33:57 <PublicServer> <Paltala> found it 10:33:57 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> the southwest corner 10:34:20 <PublicServer> <Paltala> it needs more trains before we can think about an overflow :/ 10:34:42 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> a depot=possibility to add them 10:35:12 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> lets do an overflow? 10:35:26 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000118A6: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000118A6.png 10:35:27 <PublicServer> <Paltala> i guess we could, im just thinking on how to connect both lines 10:35:48 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> just do separate overflows 10:35:51 <PublicServer> <Paltala> i guess 10:36:17 <PublicServer> <Paltala> im just wondering what prios get used 10:37:24 <PublicServer> <Paltala> hmm 10:37:30 <PublicServer> <Paltala> connect both to one depot or not? 10:38:59 <HanziQ> !password 10:38:59 <PublicServer> HanziQ: wormed 10:39:00 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> could you move that 1 tile up? 10:39:05 <HanziQ> hm, nice pass: wormed 10:39:06 <PublicServer> <Paltala> yeh 10:39:27 <PublicServer> *** HanziQ joined the game 10:40:21 <PublicServer> <Paltala> i dont know what prios get used :/ 10:40:24 <PublicServer> <Paltala> presignals* 10:40:55 <PublicServer> *** Combuster joined the game 10:42:23 <PublicServer> <Combuster> Why does the war factory *require* overflows? 10:42:49 *** devilsadvocate has quit IRC 10:42:54 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> well, not yet, but its better to do them beforehand 10:43:44 <PublicServer> <Paltala> they are well hacked in overflows imho :D 10:43:59 <PublicServer> <Combuster> they don't work 10:44:14 <PublicServer> <Paltala> well im not sure if my presignals are right... 10:44:47 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> both dont work or the other doesnt work? 10:44:59 <PublicServer> <Combuster> both don't 10:45:02 <PublicServer> <Paltala> :/ 10:45:21 <PublicServer> <Combuster> Absolutis: please check your IRC 10:46:31 *** devilsadvocate has joined #openttdcoop 10:48:08 *** [com]buster has joined #openttdcoop 10:48:39 *** Combuster is now known as Guest1085 10:48:39 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 10:50:26 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000355B7: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000355B7.png 10:50:33 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Combuster 10:50:35 <Combuster> !players 10:50:38 <PublicServer> Combuster: Client 191 (Orange) is Paltala, in company 1 (Allan & Co.) 10:50:38 <PublicServer> Combuster: Client 195 (Orange) is Absolutis, in company 1 (Allan & Co.) 10:50:38 <PublicServer> Combuster: Client 197 (Orange) is HanziQ, in company 1 (Allan & Co.) 10:50:39 <PublicServer> Combuster: Client 199 (Orange) is Combuster, in company 1 (Allan & Co.) 10:50:46 <Combuster> !rcon kick 195 10:50:46 <PublicServer> Combuster: *** Absolutis has left the game (kicked by server) 10:50:47 <PublicServer> Combuster: *** Absolutis has left the game (connection lost) 10:51:06 *** Absolutis has quit IRC 10:51:25 <Combuster> Well, if you don't want to talk 10:52:09 *** Combuster sets mode: +b *!*@*dsl-tlubrasgw1-fe87de00-63.dhcp.inet.fi* 10:52:29 <hylje> he's finnish, give him a break 10:53:48 <Combuster> Spike would've just as easily banned him yesterday for mass TF 10:54:18 *** Guest1085 has quit IRC 10:54:26 <slaca> !password 10:54:26 <PublicServer> slaca: petted 10:54:30 <Combuster> but it seems everytime he's confronted he quits... 10:54:39 <PublicServer> <slaca> hi 10:54:40 <PublicServer> *** slaca joined the game 10:54:46 <PublicServer> <Paltala> hey 10:54:51 <Combuster> hi slaca 10:55:17 <Combuster> so I banned him so he *must* talk before joining 10:56:05 <PublicServer> <Paltala> Combuster, can you check my work at the exit merge from the copper/rubber drop? 10:56:14 <PublicServer> <Paltala> im not sure if ive got the pre signals right 10:56:32 *** benom has quit IRC 10:56:57 <PublicServer> <Paltala> can you correct my mistakes? I'm still a newb when it comes to pre signals 10:57:11 <PublicServer> <Combuster> I can't fix this one without overhauling it 10:57:16 <PublicServer> <Paltala> :/ 10:57:46 *** Deamonhunter11 has joined #openttdcoop 10:57:58 <Deamonhunter11> !password 10:57:58 <PublicServer> Deamonhunter11: petted 10:58:17 <PublicServer> *** Deamonhunter11 joined the game 10:58:29 <PublicServer> <Combuster> Basically, the trick is that waiting trains can't block other choices 10:58:34 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 10:58:35 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 10:58:55 <PublicServer> <Paltala> i know but im trying to work out how to fixe it 10:58:58 <PublicServer> <Paltala> gah 10:59:54 <PublicServer> <Paltala> well that works :D 11:00:40 <PublicServer> <Combuster> the same problem happens on the other side 11:00:43 <PublicServer> <Deamonhunter11> hello guys 11:00:43 <PublicServer> <Combuster> you saw that? 11:00:50 <PublicServer> <Paltala> hmm, still need the trains to take a balanced path 11:01:36 <PublicServer> <Paltala> looks like ill be adding penalties 11:02:02 <PublicServer> <Combuster> balancers don't need to "work" until they're running capacity 11:02:11 <PublicServer> <Paltala> but its better to do it early 11:02:44 *** Lelle has joined #openttdcoop 11:02:50 <PublicServer> <Combuster> ever heard of "optimize the worst case" 11:02:54 <PublicServer> <Combuster> (i.e. not the best) 11:02:57 <PublicServer> <Paltala> nope >.< 11:03:12 <PublicServer> <Combuster> its one from software development 11:04:06 <PublicServer> <Paltala> well i guess its a case of getting rid of a problem that is set to appear 11:04:45 <PublicServer> <Combuster> its a case of trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist 11:04:51 <PublicServer> <Paltala> YET 11:04:51 <PublicServer> <Paltala> ;) 11:05:26 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002C259: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002C259.png 11:05:52 <PublicServer> <Combuster> routes will queue up and trains are forced to balance 11:05:55 <PublicServer> <Paltala> the top line will most likely jam 11:06:42 <V453000> Absolutis Banned? Reason to celebrate \o/ 11:07:03 <PublicServer> <Deamonhunter11> huh? 11:07:10 <Combuster> I think webster will reset that in due time 11:07:15 <V453000> :o 11:07:45 <PublicServer> <Paltala> i havent seen anything saying hes banned D: 11:07:54 <PublicServer> <Paltala> but then again, im using the web client of irc for this 11:07:59 <Combuster> [12:50] <@Combuster> !rcon kick 195 11:07:59 <Combuster> [12:50] <+PublicServer> Combuster: *** Absolutis has left the game (kicked by server) 11:08:08 <V453000> yarr 11:08:18 <PublicServer> <Paltala> thats a kick, not a ban 11:08:24 <PublicServer> *** slaca has joined company #1 11:08:30 <V453000> ban followed 11:08:36 <PublicServer> <Paltala> ohhh 11:10:09 <PublicServer> *** HanziQ has left the game (leaving) 11:10:48 *** Deamonhunter11 has quit IRC 11:10:49 <PublicServer> *** Deamonhunter11 has left the game (connection lost) 11:11:23 <Ammler> ban is like kick and ban in openttd 11:20:27 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001A485: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0001A485.png 11:20:48 <^Spike^> Combuster btw that ban isn't gonna work if he uses the webchat 11:20:51 <PublicServer> <Combuster> oh and Paltala, don't build deep into rainforests 11:21:04 *** fmauNeko has joined #openttdcoop 11:21:07 *** ^Spike^ sets mode: +b *!*50de873f@* 11:21:09 <fmauNeko> Ohai 11:21:11 <fmauNeko> !password 11:21:11 <PublicServer> fmauNeko: camels 11:21:12 <PublicServer> <Paltala> D: 11:21:14 *** ^Spike^ sets mode: +b *!~50de873f@* 11:21:17 *** ^Spike^ sets mode: -b *!*50de873f@* 11:21:20 <PublicServer> *** fmauNeko joined the game 11:21:26 <^Spike^> that will work better :) 11:21:55 *** ^Spike^ sets mode: +b *!*@80.222.135 11:22:02 *** ^Spike^ sets mode: -b *!*@*dsl-tlubrasgw1-fe87de00-63.dhcp.inet.fi* 11:22:07 <^Spike^> that should keep him out :) 11:22:48 <PublicServer> <Paltala> i take it you lot dont like absolutis 11:23:00 <^Spike^> we don't like the way he acts 11:23:52 <PublicServer> <Paltala> outpost pop tracked for march 2119, total is 23969 11:25:03 <PublicServer> <Combuster> town growth is off btw 11:25:05 <SmatZ> why was he banned? will you open a51 thread for him? 11:25:30 <PublicServer> <Paltala> i gathereed com but it was just to track where it was 11:25:54 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Hmm, Is this another farm in enemy territory far enough from the cities ? 11:25:58 <PublicServer> <Paltala> god that was a good sandwhich :D 11:26:06 <^Spike^> SmatZ 1 thread isn't enough ;) 11:26:19 <^Spike^> but i don't mind making one 11:26:27 <PublicServer> *** slaca has joined spectators 11:26:37 <SmatZ> :P 11:27:04 <PublicServer> <Paltala> guys, mind if i make some trains to test avdg's mass neutraliser? 11:27:10 <PublicServer> <Paltala> i wanna see if in action =3 11:30:29 <PublicServer> <slaca> train 222 ? 11:33:54 <PublicServer> <slaca> by mass neutraliser they dont use every tunnels 11:34:15 <PublicServer> <Paltala> i know, im doing some testing/wanting to see it work 11:34:38 <PublicServer> <Combuster> you need to set orders to have the pathfinder plan something 11:35:27 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000641F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000641F.png 11:36:23 *** Vitus has joined #openttdcoop 11:38:12 <PublicServer> *** Spike joined the game 11:42:00 <PublicServer> *** Paltala has left the game (connection lost) 11:42:05 *** Paltala has quit IRC 11:44:36 <PublicServer> *** Spike has joined company #1 11:45:01 *** jondisti has joined #openttdcoop 11:49:00 *** mixrin has joined #openttdcoop 11:50:27 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002CF30: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002CF30.png 11:52:47 *** roboboy has quit IRC 11:54:05 <PublicServer> *** slaca has left the game (connection lost) 11:54:32 *** samut has joined #openttdcoop 12:05:28 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00003B86: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00003B86.png 12:12:43 <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (leaving) 12:20:28 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000031A0: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000031A0.png 12:21:09 *** devilsadvocate has quit IRC 12:21:24 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 12:22:25 *** slaca has quit IRC 12:22:59 <avdg> !password 12:22:59 <PublicServer> avdg: cowboy 12:23:21 <avdg> :/ 12:23:42 <V453000> moo 12:23:49 <avdg> hey moo 12:23:54 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Woof 12:23:54 <V453000> hi 12:24:00 <PublicServer> <Combuster> Meow 12:24:05 <PublicServer> <Combuster> Wraauw V. 12:24:15 <hylje> meow 12:24:18 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Meow 12:24:18 <avdg> stopid internet :/ 12:24:19 <Vitus> Hey, we're in ZOO! 12:24:33 <hylje> we're a herd of cats you know 12:24:36 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Need Catnip 12:24:48 <PublicServer> *** avdg joined the game 12:25:02 <PublicServer> <avdg> srr for the long waiting :p 12:26:31 <PublicServer> *** avdg has joined company #1 12:26:59 *** Fuco has joined #openttdcoop 12:27:03 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Fuco 12:28:15 <PublicServer> <Combuster> SLH05 done 12:28:26 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 12:28:43 <PublicServer> <avdg> looks nice 12:29:22 <PublicServer> <avdg> nice fit for limited room 12:35:28 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00011043: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00011043.png 12:36:44 <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm... no builders board somewhere? 12:37:13 <PublicServer> <Combuster> Not that I've seen yet 12:37:46 <PublicServer> <avdg> k, added one 12:37:58 <PublicServer> <avdg> donno, if the space in front is required 12:38:32 <Vitus> !password for me 12:38:32 <PublicServer> Vitus: gadget 12:38:45 <PublicServer> <avdg> hey vitus 12:38:54 <PublicServer> *** Vitus joined the game 12:38:56 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey 12:39:05 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Hai Vitus 12:39:23 <PublicServer> <Combuster> Aloha Vitus 12:40:23 <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm.. what are the rubber trains doing in the pickup overflow depots? 12:41:36 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Don't know... just get rid of them 12:41:51 <PublicServer> <avdg> k 12:42:47 <Combuster> Probably my doing 12:42:59 <Combuster> I shut down some deep-forest harvesting operations 12:43:05 <PublicServer> <avdg> :) 12:43:20 <PublicServer> <avdg> damm animals, we need better weapons and more guards 12:43:35 <PublicServer> <Combuster> Blame the scenario maker </metagame> 12:43:38 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Well, there's a deep-forest Maize stealing in progress 12:43:41 <PublicServer> <Vitus> btw, Combuster, I found out why did you get wrong result in the penalty test matrix :P 12:43:50 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Look !here 12:43:52 <V453000> scenario maker did everything right :p 12:44:05 <PublicServer> <avdg> lol 12:44:51 <Combuster> Saw that a few hours back 12:44:56 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Alright 12:44:58 <Combuster> Its long fixed :) 12:45:14 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Well, I came to that conclusion yesterday :) 12:45:35 <PublicServer> <Combuster> interestingly, I didn't get any non-integer numbers out 12:46:13 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Just a question, what's the point of !this? It seems to be broken at best 12:46:31 <PublicServer> <Combuster> Absolutis at work 12:46:36 <PublicServer> <avdg> I'm just using it :p 12:46:57 <PublicServer> <Combuster> techincally, its an overflow 12:47:07 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Yes, but not working :P 12:47:13 <PublicServer> <avdg> indeed 12:47:23 <PublicServer> <Vitus> This could help 12:47:41 <Combuster> [12:44] <+PublicServer> <Absolutis> both dont work or the other doesnt work? 12:47:41 <Combuster> [12:45] <+PublicServer> <Combuster> both don't 12:48:08 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> MOAR 12:48:12 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Fixed in time, eh? 12:48:27 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Any new SLHs? 12:48:32 <PublicServer> <avdg> at the drop 12:48:35 <PublicServer> <Combuster> I spent more time on his ban... 12:48:41 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> SLH05 near outbost 12:48:50 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Outpost* 12:49:32 <PublicServer> <avdg> I think !connect is safe to be connected 12:49:47 <PublicServer> <Combuster> its in the desert, no? :) 12:49:50 <PublicServer> <avdg> :) 12:49:59 <PublicServer> <Combuster> negative tiles into the forest 12:49:59 <PublicServer> <avdg> only 18 tiles jungle 12:50:28 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001AF8C: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0001AF8C.png 12:52:43 <PublicServer> *** Combuster has left the game (connection lost) 12:53:10 <HanziQ> !dl win32 12:53:10 <PublicServer> HanziQ: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r20279/openttd-trunk-r20279-windows-win32.zip 12:53:30 <PublicServer> <avdg> hey hanziQ 12:54:01 <HanziQ> hu? 12:54:19 <PublicServer> <avdg> its in the jungle now :/ 12:54:32 <HanziQ> !password 12:54:32 <PublicServer> HanziQ: abound 12:54:46 <PublicServer> *** HanziQ joined the game 12:54:52 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Moar industry to connect! 12:55:04 <PublicServer> <HanziQ> what's in the jungle? 12:55:07 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Moar ! 12:56:26 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> avdg: there was another line before 12:56:29 <PublicServer> <HanziQ> i did't build detour 12:56:47 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> That was going to the farm at west 12:57:02 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Which was dropped, because of the plan 12:57:44 *** [com]buster has joined #openttdcoop 13:00:10 *** Combuster has quit IRC 13:00:10 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 13:00:31 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> avdg: I appended a 3rd mine at your station 13:00:42 <PublicServer> <avdg> thats a far walk :/ 13:00:50 <PublicServer> <avdg> don't you think? 13:01:05 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Well, nothing forbids it :p 13:01:47 <PublicServer> *** HanziQ has left the game (leaving) 13:01:59 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Monkeys will bring the maize to us anyways :D 13:02:09 <PublicServer> <avdg> and now I know why I should straight lines :) 13:03:54 <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm... if we give platypus playground heights a few year, it will be located in the desert 13:04:27 <HanziQ> !password 13:04:27 <PublicServer> HanziQ: abound 13:04:41 *** Phazorx has quit IRC 13:04:44 <PublicServer> *** HanziQ joined the game 13:05:20 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Oh right, I was somehow wondering why are the trains so slow in hills. Not it's clear :D 13:05:26 <PublicServer> <Vitus> 9x cargo weight multiplier 13:05:28 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000182FA: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000182FA.png 13:05:44 <PublicServer> <avdg> lol 13:06:05 <PublicServer> <avdg> these trains have not the power to pull its own weight too 13:06:21 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 13:06:24 <HanziQ> !password 13:06:24 <PublicServer> HanziQ: unwell 13:06:30 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Station on MSH01 13:06:40 <PublicServer> *** Player has joined spectators 13:06:43 <PublicServer> <Player> hi 13:06:46 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Player: get a nick plz :p 13:06:50 <PublicServer> <Vitus> That 13:06:54 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> And hello, btw :p 13:06:57 <PublicServer> <avdg> don't hang out the player :) 13:07:06 <PublicServer> <HanziQ> hi Songman :D 13:07:12 <PublicServer> <Player> oh so you are here 13:07:30 <PublicServer> <HanziQ> :D well, that's why i invited you 13:07:30 <PublicServer> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 13:07:33 <PublicServer> <HanziQ> hm 13:07:36 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Pwnd 13:07:41 <PublicServer> <HanziQ> a bit.. 13:07:50 <PublicServer> <Vitus> HanziQ, why have you built primary pickup station on MSH? 13:07:57 <PublicServer> *** Songman joined the game 13:07:59 <PublicServer> <Songman> well, here I am 13:07:59 <PublicServer> <avdg> hey, wb 13:08:04 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> :) 13:08:07 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey 13:08:24 <PublicServer> <Vitus> HanziQ: Primary industries can be only connected to SLH 13:08:30 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Songman: you could type "name Songman" in the console too :p 13:08:35 <PublicServer> <HanziQ> yea, sorry 13:08:46 <PublicServer> <HanziQ> i thought it was connected to SLH 13:08:49 <PublicServer> <avdg> ... 13:08:54 <PublicServer> <avdg> mass neutraliser is abused 13:09:03 <PublicServer> <HanziQ> i'll reconnect it 13:09:06 <PublicServer> * avdg not happy 13:09:10 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Well, you can use the line of Platypus Playground Heights 13:09:13 <PublicServer> <HanziQ> to SLH 03 13:09:19 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> I'm going to drop the station 13:09:22 <PublicServer> <HanziQ> yea 13:09:22 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Yes 13:09:41 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Just note you can only go twenty tiles into jungle, don't do the same mistake as I did :P 13:09:57 <PublicServer> <Vitus> But you can connect it with station walk :) 13:10:09 <PublicServer> <HanziQ> hm 13:10:12 <PublicServer> <HanziQ> yes 13:10:43 <PublicServer> *** Songman has left the game (connection lost) 13:10:49 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Well, Platypus Playground Heights is against the plan, isn't it ? 13:12:14 *** devilsadvocate has joined #openttdcoop 13:17:10 <PublicServer> <Vitus> The goods trains weight 1700 tons fully loaded 13:17:25 <PublicServer> <avdg> nice 13:17:28 <PublicServer> <Vitus> And they slow down even in one tile slope :D 13:17:43 <PublicServer> <avdg> vitus: check any loaded train 13:17:55 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Right 13:18:06 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Oil Train: 2048 tons 13:18:15 <PublicServer> <avdg> :p 13:18:50 <PublicServer> <avdg> can't the weight multiplier be reduced? 13:19:12 <PublicServer> <avdg> we are normally using smaller numbers 13:19:27 *** Fuco has quit IRC 13:19:34 *** Fuco has joined #openttdcoop 13:19:36 <PublicServer> <Vitus> And slope steepness is 5% instead of default 3% 13:19:38 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Fuco 13:20:29 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000278A: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000278A.png 13:21:49 *** bothie has quit IRC 13:22:17 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hmmm, with these settings, GE Genesis is barely good choice 13:22:28 *** `Fuco` has joined #openttdcoop 13:23:21 <V453000> plan flaw :) now suffer 13:23:51 <PublicServer> <avdg> or restore the settings ;-) 13:24:38 <V453000> it is on purpose as a part of the scenario 13:24:59 <PublicServer> <avdg> ok :p 13:25:15 <V453000> :p 13:25:36 <PublicServer> <avdg> so its all done express? 13:25:40 <hylje> AVOID CLIMBS LIKE A PLAGUE 13:25:43 <PublicServer> <Vitus> This should be on message board, though :P 13:26:04 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Climbs aren't the only problem 13:26:15 *** [com]buster has joined #openttdcoop 13:26:19 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Just about any place where full trains have to stop :D 13:26:35 <PublicServer> <avdg> or even slow down 13:27:01 <PublicServer> * avdg hates diagonals 13:27:42 <PublicServer> <Vitus> We'd need 4 engines and 4 wagons :D 13:27:52 <PublicServer> <avdg> lol 13:28:02 <PublicServer> *** Combuster joined the game 13:28:02 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 13:28:34 *** Fuco has quit IRC 13:28:56 <PublicServer> <avdg> lol 13:29:08 <PublicServer> <Combuster> We could upgrade to double Centennials 13:29:12 <PublicServer> <avdg> trains are stuck in the pf traps at warfactory 13:29:16 <PublicServer> <Combuster> but it would lower the maximum speed 13:29:25 <PublicServer> <avdg> check !this 13:29:37 <PublicServer> <HanziQ> lol 13:29:54 <PublicServer> * avdg blames pbs 13:30:45 *** Combuster has quit IRC 13:30:45 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 13:31:14 <PublicServer> <avdg> lol 13:31:17 <PublicServer> <avdg> fixed 13:31:20 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> We could use E60C too, Greenpeace would be happier 13:31:47 <PublicServer> <avdg> k 13:31:53 <PublicServer> <avdg> pf-trap removed 13:32:11 <PublicServer> <Combuster> E60C has a much lower MTe 13:32:49 *** bothie has joined #openttdcoop 13:33:02 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Oh, yeah, I always forget to look at that, I just look at Speed and Power 13:33:20 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Please don't kill me :p 13:33:35 <PublicServer> <Combuster> I should be killed 13:33:38 <PublicServer> <avdg> you know we will :) 13:33:47 <PublicServer> <Combuster> I tested trains based on empty hill speed 13:34:02 <PublicServer> <Combuster> and 2x Genesis performs pretty good there 13:34:11 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Well, with x9 multiplier :D 13:34:11 <PublicServer> <Combuster> the only problem is full trains 13:34:44 <PublicServer> <avdg> is the climb test on this map? 13:34:47 <PublicServer> <Combuster> anybody against mass refit? 13:34:59 <PublicServer> <Vitus> I'm fine with that 13:35:04 <PublicServer> <Combuster> There's a climb test 13:35:14 <PublicServer> <avdg> Im fine if it can be reverted 13:35:17 <PublicServer> <Combuster> near !curve length 13:35:26 <PublicServer> <Vitus> What engine would you like to use? 13:35:29 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000317EE: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000317EE.png 13:35:46 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Well, go for Centennial :p 13:36:00 <PublicServer> <Combuster> Centennials are longer :( 13:36:04 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Yup 13:36:13 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Frak 13:36:24 <PublicServer> <Vitus> GE E60C looks little bit better than Genesis 13:36:33 <PublicServer> <Vitus> But the TE isn't that great 13:36:42 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Max TE :P 13:36:58 <V453000> well longer also means less wagons = better power and TE :p 13:37:04 <PublicServer> <Combuster> We'd maybe want the Evolution for that 13:37:19 <hylje> F40PH FUCK YEAH 13:37:34 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Go for 0-4-0 Grasshopper 13:37:47 <PublicServer> <HanziQ> Go for 4-6-6-4 Challenger 13:37:53 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> No, we need the 4-2-0 Chuck Norris 13:37:59 <PublicServer> <Vitus> :D 13:38:06 <V453000> Chuck Norris is 6-6-6 13:38:15 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Hell yeah 13:38:18 <PublicServer> <HanziQ> yeah, 4-2-0 Hitchhiker 13:38:25 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> The number of the Beast 13:40:35 *** Intexon has joined #openttdcoop 13:40:51 <PublicServer> *** Intexon joined the game 13:40:53 <PublicServer> <avdg> :p 13:40:56 <PublicServer> <Intexon> hi 13:41:05 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Evolution fails 13:41:05 <PublicServer> <avdg> hey 13:41:08 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Hi Intexon 13:46:11 <PublicServer> <Vitus> What about three engines? 13:46:26 <PublicServer> <Combuster> one-third of the cargo? 13:46:38 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Haha, the Steam engine is failing so hard 13:46:48 <PublicServer> <Combuster> its only singleheaded 13:47:06 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Nah, only one half :P 13:47:18 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Trains 289 13:47:27 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Capacity of 165 items of goods 13:47:50 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Now that looks strange :P 13:47:53 <PublicServer> <Combuster> 216 now 13:49:55 <PublicServer> *** Spike joined the game 13:50:29 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00032DD3: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00032DD3.png 13:53:17 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Not even this? 13:53:20 <PublicServer> <Vitus> :O 13:54:32 <PublicServer> <Vitus> This could work :D 13:56:15 *** Ramsus08191 has joined #openttdcoop 13:56:20 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Haha, 4 Centennial is full speed 13:56:23 <Ramsus08191> !password 13:56:23 <PublicServer> Ramsus08191: threes 13:56:42 <PublicServer> *** Ramsus08191 joined the game 13:56:44 <PublicServer> <Vitus> 100 boxes of goods! 13:56:48 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> Hello 13:56:51 <PublicServer> <Combuster> only carries a third of the cargo 13:56:54 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey 13:56:57 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Meow Ramsus08191 13:57:41 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> whats the !nasty ascend? 13:57:44 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Well, I think the 2*centennial is best 13:57:53 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Ramsus08191: tests about engine change 13:58:03 *** `Fuco` has quit IRC 13:58:05 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> on uphill slow down? 13:58:21 *** Fuco has joined #openttdcoop 13:58:25 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Fuco 13:58:29 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Yes, the Genesis slows down too much 13:58:35 <PublicServer> <Vitus> You should also add capacity of such train in the scoreboard 13:59:11 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> I have conducted experiments with the trains used in here, you just have to have a 3 tile platform between One tile uhill 13:59:16 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> uphill* 13:59:37 *** Phoenix_the_II has joined #openttdcoop 13:59:37 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Phoenix_the_II 13:59:41 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> most of ML is ok 14:00:02 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> just avoid the montains unless you want to TF badly :) 14:00:35 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> but what influence the slow down..? its the HP ? the Tractor effort? 14:00:52 <PublicServer> <Combuster> MTE and Power 14:02:11 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> The full formula is on OpenTTD Wiki 14:02:48 <fmauNeko> Non-Maglev train acceleration = 37 *(0.55 * Power / Speed - 1.3 * Mass + 60 * #cars + 0.0035 * Mass * Speed + 0.24 * Speed^2 - 60 * Mass of cars on uphill slope + 60 * Mass of cars on downhill slope) / Mass (km/h/day) 14:02:50 *** Fuco has quit IRC 14:02:56 *** Fuco has joined #openttdcoop 14:03:00 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Fuco 14:03:21 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> its quite big :) 14:03:49 <PublicServer> <Vitus> And we need acceleration >=0 14:04:05 <PublicServer> <Vitus> And about half of train's weight is on slope 14:04:20 <PublicServer> *** HanziQ has left the game (leaving) 14:05:15 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> hmm I think that will be easy just avoid montains and put a 3 tile patform when necessary, for this map that is. 14:05:29 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00030DD3: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00030DD3.png 14:05:48 <PublicServer> <Combuster> The drops in the valley are going to be a problem in that case 14:06:25 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> well, the slow down is insignificant the the up hill is like 2 tiles or three consecutive 14:06:31 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> when* 14:07:36 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Well, Are we replacing engines or not ? :p 14:07:51 <PublicServer> <Vitus> We are still looking for good engine combination, aren't we? 14:08:04 <HanziQ> !password 14:08:04 <PublicServer> HanziQ: canter 14:08:13 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Hmm, I don't think we'll find better than the 2*Centennial 14:08:18 <PublicServer> <Combuster> From what we see, we either need longer terraces or 3+ engines 14:08:25 <PublicServer> *** HanziQ joined the game 14:11:36 *** `Fuco` has joined #openttdcoop 14:13:26 *** `Fuco` has quit IRC 14:14:46 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> now that was an interesting combination :) 14:15:47 <PublicServer> *** Intexon has left the game (leaving) 14:16:10 *** Fuco has quit IRC 14:16:26 <PublicServer> <Spike> who did the prios @ the oil exit? 14:17:17 <PublicServer> <Spike> my objectsion is easily explained... 14:17:20 *** devilsadvocate has quit IRC 14:17:20 <PublicServer> *** Spike has joined company #1 14:17:49 *** Progman has quit IRC 14:18:21 <PublicServer> <Vitus> The prio is there to ensure good balancing 14:19:53 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 14:20:04 <PublicServer> <Vitus> I disconnected one of the pickups and merged it into one lane 14:20:11 <PublicServer> <Vitus> So I have to balance them after 14:20:20 <PublicServer> <Spike> Vitus: 14:20:23 <PublicServer> <Spike> look @ the exit 14:20:29 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000323D4: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000323D4.png 14:20:53 <PublicServer> <Vitus> I know, I know. But how else should I balance it? 14:21:12 <PublicServer> <Spike> you can balance it.. AND give the full trains prio :) 14:22:56 <PublicServer> *** HanziQ has left the game (leaving) 14:23:08 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Can't think of any good balancing that'd accomplish this - other than PF trap magic again 14:23:27 <PublicServer> <Combuster> interestingly, the big goods wagons cause significant slowdowns too... 14:23:29 <PublicServer> <Spike> nah.. you can roughly keep the same lines... 14:23:58 <PublicServer> <Spike> just placng the prios on the inside vitus 14:24:03 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Combuster: Yes, but they can load moar too :p 14:25:34 <PublicServer> <Vitus> If I place the prios on that track, the goods trains will just prefer one track 14:27:18 *** Combuster has quit IRC 14:29:58 *** mixrin has quit IRC 14:30:51 <PublicServer> <Combuster> hmm, 2x centennial has less HP but more MTE than 3x E60C... 14:32:16 <HanziQ> !password 14:32:16 <PublicServer> HanziQ: sprint 14:32:35 <PublicServer> *** HanziQ joined the game 14:33:32 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Well, with the2*Centennial, do we need to change engines order 14:33:47 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Because that'd require a lot of manual rework 14:33:59 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> engines order matter? 14:34:32 <PublicServer> <Combuster> hmm, centennial+2xE60C fits in 1.5TL too 14:34:57 <Razaekel> you dont need to change orders if yer changing engines 14:35:30 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00032FD1: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00032FD1.png 14:35:58 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> hmm I misunderstood, my bad 14:37:17 <PublicServer> *** HanziQ has left the game (connection lost) 14:39:43 <PublicServer> <Combuster> the heaviest trains are over 2ktons 14:39:52 <PublicServer> <Combuster> (full water) 14:40:51 *** Combuster has joined #openttdcoop 14:41:10 *** devilsadvocate has joined #openttdcoop 14:42:16 *** Seppel has quit IRC 14:44:28 <^Spike^> ehm 14:44:36 <^Spike^> just a suggestion 14:44:41 <^Spike^> slowdowns cause of goods stuff? 14:44:44 <^Spike^> x9? 14:44:47 <^Spike^> of water 14:44:49 <^Spike^> for* 14:44:57 <^Spike^> and also for the rest 14:45:03 <PublicServer> *** Vitus has left the game (leaving) 14:45:11 <^Spike^> Combuster that was intended or? 14:45:42 <PublicServer> <Combuster> stealing that water train? yes 14:45:48 <^Spike^> no the weight thing 14:46:09 <PublicServer> <Combuster> the weight multipliers aren't my idea no 14:46:11 <^Spike^> it's on 14:46:16 <^Spike^> maybe turning it off might help? :) 14:46:27 <^Spike^> slope steepness for trains = 5% 14:46:43 <^Spike^> that might explain alot? :D 14:47:04 <PublicServer> <Combuster> we are well aware of that 14:47:15 <PublicServer> <Combuster> and that's the problem we're trying to deal with atm 14:47:18 <^Spike^> should be off or? 14:47:57 <PublicServer> <Combuster> Turning off weight multipliers solves the problem immediately 14:48:08 <PublicServer> <Combuster> but that's hardly any fun 14:50:30 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000327B1: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000327B1.png 14:51:12 <PublicServer> <Combuster> bah, triple centennials can't even keep a water train from slowing down :( 14:52:53 <Combuster> maybe we should set the multiplier to 2x... 14:53:32 <PublicServer> <Combuster> since 1 loc/wagon can't maintain speed on a staircase 14:56:40 *** HanziQ has quit IRC 15:01:04 <PublicServer> <Combuster> Well, the best solution looks like 3x GE E60C 15:01:27 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> That will need removing a wagon 15:01:32 <PublicServer> <Combuster> it's good enough to lift the heaviest cargo over a TL3 staircase 15:01:41 <PublicServer> <Combuster> I know 15:01:44 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> And for the goods and food, it'll need manual rework 15:02:08 *** [com]buster has joined #openttdcoop 15:02:14 <PublicServer> <Combuster> There's little improvement to be gotten by anything of the same size :( 15:03:20 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Well, replacing the Two double stack intermodal by5 autorack would do the job too :p 15:03:30 <PublicServer> <Combuster> it doesnt 15:03:51 <PublicServer> <Combuster> a fuly loaded goods trains weighs less than a fully loaded liquid train 15:04:02 <PublicServer> <Combuster> (water/oil/rubber are the heaviest cargoes) 15:04:29 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> There, we've a problem 15:04:56 <PublicServer> <Combuster> we only have 300 operating trains atm 15:05:05 <PublicServer> <Combuster> could've been worse 15:05:11 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Yep 15:05:30 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00032D72: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00032D72.png 15:06:20 *** samut has quit IRC 15:06:38 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> I'm checking for non electrified rail, as the electric engine is the best candidate 15:06:50 <PublicServer> <Combuster> everything used to be nonelectric 15:07:20 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Well, someone mass-upgraded the network 15:07:55 *** Combuster has quit IRC 15:07:55 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 15:08:48 <Vitus> Mass upgrade is the easiest thing here. Open viewport at top, open viewport at bottom and voila :D 15:09:22 <PublicServer> <Combuster> got a service center 15:09:24 <Vitus> (you actually don't need the second viewport, my bad) 15:10:04 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> You don't need viewport at all :p 15:10:21 <PublicServer> <Combuster> Bringing in the water trains right now 15:11:27 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Wtf, all the trains are going at SC 15:11:45 <PublicServer> *** Ramsus08191 has left the game (leaving) 15:11:50 *** Ramsus08191 has quit IRC 15:12:11 <Vitus> fmauNeko: I know, but it's easier with one :) 15:13:37 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Combuster: you're replacing engines by hand ? 15:15:03 <Razaekel> if yer going from 2 engines to 3, you have to 15:15:25 <Razaekel> well, you can save some work by using autoreplace, but you still need to add the third engine and remove a car 15:15:51 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Yeah, I forgot the fact that there's one more engine :p 15:16:55 <fmauNeko> That'd make a great patch, being able to automatically do that, like "When a train matches this pattern, replace it with this pattern" 15:18:33 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Well, Balancing of BBH03 seems to fail 15:20:30 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00031958: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00031958.png 15:26:19 *** heffer has quit IRC 15:30:12 *** Combuster has quit IRC 15:31:26 <PublicServer> <Combuster> brb 15:35:30 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000F653: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000F653.png 15:37:23 *** Mucht has quit IRC 15:43:48 *** Intexon has quit IRC 15:44:24 *** Lukeus_Maximus has joined #openttdcoop 15:44:57 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 15:45:46 *** HanziQ has joined #openttdcoop 15:45:49 <HanziQ> !password 15:45:49 <PublicServer> HanziQ: docked 15:46:16 <PublicServer> *** HanziQ joined the game 15:46:49 *** Intexon has joined #openttdcoop 15:50:31 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003983B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003983B.png 15:56:47 <PublicServer> *** HanziQ has left the game (leaving) 15:58:03 <PublicServer> *** Intexon joined the game 16:05:31 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000F653: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000F653.png 16:08:17 <PublicServer> *** Intexon has left the game (leaving) 16:20:31 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00006105: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00006105.png 16:22:30 <PublicServer> <avdg> what does the new model do? 16:22:33 <PublicServer> <avdg> more power? 16:26:32 <PublicServer> <avdg> train 250 blocks 16:26:59 <PublicServer> <avdg> is it underpowered? 16:27:20 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> It seems 16:27:23 <PublicServer> <Combuster> and there's a nonstaircased ramp there 16:27:50 <PublicServer> <avdg> depot it 16:27:50 <PublicServer> <avdg> :p 16:28:57 <PublicServer> <avdg> unsignalled tracks. 16:29:04 <PublicServer> <avdg> :/ 16:29:11 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> :/ 16:29:11 <PublicServer> <Combuster> where? 16:29:24 <PublicServer> <avdg> a bit further of train 250 stuck spot 16:29:27 <PublicServer> <avdg> fixed 16:29:39 <PublicServer> <avdg> more? :/ 16:29:53 <PublicServer> <Combuster> maybe 16:30:02 <PublicServer> <Combuster> takes too much to go looking for it 16:30:55 <PublicServer> <avdg> well, I never saw a stuck train due weight 16:31:07 <PublicServer> <avdg> the slowest train I ever saw was still arround 5kmph 16:34:58 <PublicServer> <Combuster> well, I should go 16:34:58 <PublicServer> <avdg> is someone replacing trains that enters penguin secret brewery traindepot? 16:35:07 <PublicServer> <avdg> I have to help someone 16:35:27 <PublicServer> <avdg> trains are 122, 229, 243, 133, 280 and 282 16:35:31 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000073DF: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000073DF.png 16:35:32 <PublicServer> <Combuster> Trainss sometimes take an hour to find the depot 16:35:47 <PublicServer> <Combuster> they ought to be fixed, but I don't have the time now 16:35:51 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> avdg: I get the trains near FPP 16:36:13 <PublicServer> <avdg> fpp? 16:36:37 <PublicServer> <Combuster> *f*ood *p*rocessing *p*lant? 16:36:46 <PublicServer> <avdg> oh :p 16:37:01 <PublicServer> *** Combuster has left the game (leaving) 16:37:51 <V453000> !password or die 16:37:51 <PublicServer> V453000: cornet 16:38:01 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Well, I found an issue 16:38:05 <PublicServer> <avdg> ? 16:38:17 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Some Food trains are modified, but not refitted 16:38:18 <PublicServer> *** Vitus joined the game 16:38:18 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 16:38:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> is me the issue? :p 16:38:20 <PublicServer> <avdg> hey v's 16:38:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 16:38:23 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey 16:38:38 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> I need to fix these trains :/ 16:39:40 *** Fuco has joined #openttdcoop 16:39:44 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Fuco 16:41:26 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Well, when you have to watch 15 trains at the same time, having a big screen is so cool :p 16:41:32 <PublicServer> <avdg> :) 16:41:38 <PublicServer> <avdg> I have 2 screens 16:41:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> you should have played PZ13 :D 16:41:50 <PublicServer> <avdg> too bad not of the same format 16:41:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> there you need to watch the whole map 16:41:56 <PublicServer> <avdg> ? 16:41:59 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> I have 2 too 16:42:17 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> My iMac 27" and a 17" screen hooked on the Xbox :p 16:42:41 <PublicServer> <avdg> :p macbook 13" on 19" screen here 16:43:44 <PublicServer> * avdg guards last human outpost w+f+g drop 16:43:48 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Please nobody touch the FPP depots, it's crisis there 16:44:18 <PublicServer> <avdg> fmauNeko, a big pile at !trains 16:44:21 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Combuster chose non-refittable Goods wagons for Food trains :p 16:44:25 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> I'm on it :p 16:44:52 <PublicServer> <avdg> are there too many? 16:45:02 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> I can handle that :p 16:45:11 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Just need to sort my windows 16:45:11 <PublicServer> <avdg> k 16:45:14 <PublicServer> <avdg> :) 16:45:17 <PublicServer> <avdg> me too 16:45:24 <PublicServer> <avdg> a lot of trains 16:46:02 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 16:46:32 <PublicServer> <avdg> :/ many people are asking me questions 16:46:35 <PublicServer> <avdg> brb 16:48:02 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 16:48:24 <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm, there is one at sc01 16:50:32 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000F253: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000F253.png 16:52:52 <PublicServer> <Vitus> What wagons do we use for goods trains? Hicube Boxcar or Centerbeam Flatcar? 16:53:01 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Centerbeam 16:53:05 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Alright, thanks 16:53:27 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hmm, have to go 16:53:33 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Will be here later, see ya 16:53:39 <PublicServer> *** Vitus has left the game (leaving) 16:55:06 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Well, no more trains at FPP overflow 16:55:30 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> I'm taking SC01 16:56:00 <HanziQ> !password 16:56:00 <PublicServer> HanziQ: richly 16:56:15 <PublicServer> *** HanziQ joined the game 16:57:01 <PublicServer> *** HanziQ has left the game (leaving) 16:57:58 *** `Fuco` has joined #openttdcoop 16:58:09 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> SC01 empty 16:58:25 *** Fuco has quit IRC 16:59:14 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Refinery Overflow done 17:03:32 *** `Fuco` has quit IRC 17:03:38 *** Fuco has joined #openttdcoop 17:03:42 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Fuco 17:05:32 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00031958: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00031958.png 17:06:43 <HanziQ> !password 17:06:43 <PublicServer> HanziQ: chinks 17:06:52 <PublicServer> *** HanziQ joined the game 17:08:48 *** Intexon has quit IRC 17:10:20 *** Fuco has quit IRC 17:11:33 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> All the trains from the Copper Ore group are fixed 17:11:40 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> I need a break now :D 17:11:43 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Cya 17:11:46 <PublicServer> *** HanziQ has left the game (leaving) 17:11:49 <PublicServer> *** fmauNeko has left the game (leaving) 17:11:54 *** fmauNeko has quit IRC 17:20:32 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00006422: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00006422.png 17:20:51 <V453000> @seen Mark 17:20:51 <Webster> V453000: Mark was last seen in #openttdcoop 3 days, 12 hours, 35 minutes, and 28 seconds ago: <Mark> !info 17:25:22 *** leg3nd has joined #openttdcoop 17:25:36 *** Lelle has quit IRC 17:29:58 <leg3nd> any wanna tell me what server the irc is connected to ? 17:30:55 *** leg3nd has quit IRC 17:33:10 *** leg3nd has joined #openttdcoop 17:35:28 <avdg> oftc? 17:35:44 <Ammler> @irc 17:35:47 <Webster> IRC - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/irc 17:37:00 <leg3nd> Found it now 17:37:08 <leg3nd> thanks anyway Ammler :> 17:37:19 <leg3nd> lost the irc infos on my format :< 17:38:37 *** Hippidy has joined #openttdcoop 17:40:42 <PublicServer> *** Hippidy joined the game 17:42:16 *** Intexon has joined #openttdcoop 17:49:50 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop 17:51:05 <PublicServer> *** Hippidy has left the game (connection lost) 17:56:23 <avdg> back 17:58:35 <PublicServer> <Spike> lovely those PF traps 17:58:40 <PublicServer> <avdg> ? 17:59:04 <PublicServer> <Spike> train 76 has been stuck for years 17:59:07 <PublicServer> <Spike> trying to get to drop 17:59:16 <PublicServer> <avdg> where? 17:59:24 <PublicServer> <Spike> oil drop 17:59:26 *** Hippidy has quit IRC 17:59:34 <PublicServer> <Spike> fixed it now 17:59:51 <PublicServer> <avdg> taht people build them wrong? 18:02:16 <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm 18:02:33 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 18:02:37 <PublicServer> <avdg> should the new model only have 2 engines? 18:05:32 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000314B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000314B.png 18:06:48 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop 18:07:07 <PublicServer> *** avdg has left the game (connection lost) 18:07:07 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 18:07:07 *** avdg has quit IRC 18:07:59 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 18:10:05 <PublicServer> *** avdg joined the game 18:10:13 <PublicServer> *** avdg has joined company #1 18:10:13 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 18:12:01 *** slaca has joined #openttdcoop 18:20:09 *** Hippidy has joined #openttdcoop 18:20:32 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000085C0: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000085C0.png 18:22:14 <HanziQ> !password 18:22:14 <PublicServer> HanziQ: robber 18:22:35 <PublicServer> *** HanziQ joined the game 18:25:32 <PublicServer> *** HanziQ has left the game (leaving) 18:26:30 *** Hippidy has quit IRC 18:34:08 <Webster> Latest update from dznews: NewGRFs - TTDPatch and Action 14 <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/news/39> 18:35:16 <PublicServer> <avdg> hm 18:35:33 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000CD46: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000CD46.png 18:35:33 <PublicServer> <avdg> there are 2 stuck trains :p 18:35:43 <PublicServer> <avdg> check train 93 18:36:16 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 18:36:43 <PublicServer> <avdg> unstucked them 18:39:00 <PublicServer> *** avdg has joined spectators 18:39:01 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 18:46:33 *** fmauNeko has joined #openttdcoop 18:46:35 <fmauNeko> !password 18:46:35 <PublicServer> fmauNeko: rooter 18:46:44 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 18:46:48 <PublicServer> *** fmauNeko joined the game 18:47:08 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> How is the train upgrade going ? 18:49:41 *** slaca has quit IRC 18:50:33 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00031362: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00031362.png 18:56:44 <PublicServer> *** avdg has left the game (connection lost) 18:59:30 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Well, after the food trains with goods wagons 18:59:39 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> We have a Goods train with food cars 19:03:39 *** Vitus has quit IRC 19:05:33 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00037B90: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00037B90.png 19:05:34 <VVG> hello 19:05:38 <VVG> !password 19:05:38 <PublicServer> VVG: hences 19:05:45 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Hai VVG 19:05:57 <PublicServer> *** VVG joined the game 19:06:46 *** Fuco has joined #openttdcoop 19:06:50 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Fuco 19:14:59 <PublicServer> <VVG> why the need to upgrade trains? 19:15:00 <fmauNeko> !screen 19:15:00 <PublicServer> *** fmauNeko made screenshot at 00038A3E: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00038A3E.png 19:15:16 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> They failed in the hills 19:15:45 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Lots of tests were conducted by Combuster 19:16:00 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> You can still see the Scoreboard near WAR FACTORY 19:16:03 <PublicServer> <VVG> gotcha 19:18:29 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Well, I have 2 rubber and 4 water trains to fix 19:18:41 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> And then, all the weapons trains :'( 19:20:33 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002CD37: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002CD37.png 19:33:26 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> OMG 19:33:29 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> IT'S FINALLY THE END 19:33:35 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> One last train to fix 19:35:34 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00003D38: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00003D38.png 19:36:50 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Lala, every single train is fixed now 19:37:08 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> I think i'll need another break 19:37:17 <PublicServer> *** fmauNeko has left the game (leaving) 19:37:20 *** fmauNeko has quit IRC 19:38:20 <PublicServer> *** VVG has left the game (leaving) 19:38:20 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 19:47:05 <PublicServer> *** Spike has joined spectators 19:47:11 <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (leaving) 19:49:58 *** slaca has joined #openttdcoop 19:50:33 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 19:50:34 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000F653: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000F653.png 20:00:54 *** slaca has quit IRC 20:01:18 <jondisti> !password 20:01:18 <PublicServer> jondisti: tonsil 20:01:27 <PublicServer> *** jond1sti joined the game 20:12:52 <PublicServer> *** avdg joined the game 20:13:12 <PublicServer> *** avdg has joined company #1 20:13:12 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 20:13:19 <PublicServer> <avdg> back 20:17:10 <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm.. why does the scroll works on the shade window button? 20:17:39 <PublicServer> <avdg> the button left of the 'pin' (most right button) 20:20:34 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00006C33: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00006C33.png 20:29:16 *** Phoenix_the_II has quit IRC 20:36:45 <PublicServer> *** jond1sti has left the game (leaving) 20:36:45 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 20:36:49 *** jondisti has quit IRC 20:36:50 *** HanziQ has quit IRC 20:36:57 <PublicServer> *** avdg has joined spectators 20:45:56 <PublicServer> *** Mazur joined the game 20:46:01 <PublicServer> *** avdg has joined company #1 20:46:01 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 20:46:04 <PublicServer> <avdg> hey 20:46:08 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hiya. 20:47:25 *** Hippidy has joined #openttdcoop 20:47:41 <PublicServer> <avdg> :p 3 engines to pull 4 wagons is a funny view 20:47:45 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 20:48:14 <PublicServer> <avdg> I rather see the other way, 1 engine pulling 50 20:48:14 <PublicServer> <Mazur> So, how's the game progressing? 20:48:23 <PublicServer> <avdg> I think 50% 20:48:32 <PublicServer> <avdg> or close to 50 20:48:39 <PublicServer> *** Hippidy joined the game 20:48:41 <PublicServer> <avdg> we won't have many trains this game 20:48:56 <PublicServer> <avdg> so far 20:49:11 <PublicServer> <avdg> and I think its not needed to push that 20:49:21 <PublicServer> <avdg> just finish, next game 20:52:00 *** Vitus has joined #openttdcoop 20:52:43 <PublicServer> *** Hippidy has joined company #1 20:52:55 <PublicServer> <avdg> hey hippidy 20:52:58 <PublicServer> <Hippidy> hello 20:55:14 <PublicServer> <avdg> I think I see a !slowdown 20:56:20 <PublicServer> <avdg> strange thing is that vitus rebuilded it, I guess we overlooked it 20:57:51 <PublicServer> <avdg> wait, I need the formula again 20:58:17 <avdg> !curve 20:58:18 <PublicServer> avdg: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Max_Curve_Speed 20:59:01 <Vitus> Slowdown? What? 20:59:07 <Vitus> Give me a sec, I'll check it 20:59:12 *** mixrin has joined #openttdcoop 20:59:13 <PublicServer> <avdg> we need a recalc 20:59:34 <PublicServer> <avdg> donno what speed the slowdown gives 20:59:44 <PublicServer> <avdg> we are now using slower trains, so I don't know 21:01:10 <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm 21:01:25 <PublicServer> <avdg> 13km/h under the maxspeed of the train 21:04:04 <PublicServer> <avdg> but why does a normal cl 3 NOT slowdown a train? 21:04:15 <PublicServer> <avdg> donno 21:04:42 <Vitus> Let's see 21:05:05 <Vitus> !password 21:05:05 <PublicServer> Vitus: farces 21:05:09 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Odd thing is. the slowdown could have been so eaily avoided. 21:05:28 <PublicServer> *** Vitus joined the game 21:05:34 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00008245: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00008245.png 21:06:09 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey 21:06:13 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Where was the problem? 21:06:16 <PublicServer> <avdg> hey 21:06:19 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Vitus. 21:06:23 *** Lukeus_Maximus has quit IRC 21:06:31 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Not a problem, yet. 21:07:22 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Yes, that looks like CL problem indeed 21:07:25 <PublicServer> <avdg> damm, I'm using a tilted train 21:08:10 <PublicServer> <Vitus> We'd have to move whole entrace one tile further to fix it, though. 21:08:16 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Not that it's hard thing to do :P 21:08:37 <PublicServer> <avdg> just annoying :p 21:09:04 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Just what i mean, so i'm wondering, why wasn't it build like that in the first place? 21:10:11 <PublicServer> <Vitus> avdg: Look at depot !here 21:10:29 <VVG> hey 21:10:31 <PublicServer> <avdg> ? 21:10:34 <PublicServer> <Vitus> The wagons aren't half-tile, so that's going to affect curve speed limit too 21:10:46 <VVG> !password 21:10:46 <PublicServer> VVG: toting 21:10:47 <PublicServer> <avdg> ah, they are just shorter 21:10:59 <PublicServer> <avdg> is that the reason? 21:11:09 <PublicServer> *** VVG joined the game 21:11:49 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Well, the code for curve speed limit doesn't count halftiles, but wagons (resp. engines) 21:11:58 <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm 21:12:37 <PublicServer> <avdg> oh, but why does the cl 3 have higher maxspeed? 21:12:42 *** perk11 has quit IRC 21:13:49 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Not sure what you're talking about right now 21:14:55 <PublicServer> <VVG> what are you playing with? 21:15:51 <PublicServer> <VVG> hm 21:16:13 <PublicServer> <avdg> vitus: normally should a cl 3 have the maxspeed of 131, right. 21:16:16 <PublicServer> <VVG> at fruit-maze drop, why penalize the farthest platforms instead of closest? 21:16:16 <PublicServer> <avdg> ? 21:16:39 <PublicServer> <avdg> why does a normal cl 3 have a higher speed limit? 21:16:49 <PublicServer> <Vitus> There's difference between what we call CL and what is used in code 21:17:04 <PublicServer> <Vitus> CL generally means the value provided by measuring tools 21:17:21 <PublicServer> <Vitus> But the game code counts wagons between bends 21:17:33 <PublicServer> <avdg> lol 21:18:00 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ask whoever build that drip. 21:18:05 <PublicServer> <avdg> :) 21:18:08 <PublicServer> <Vitus> When we say CL3, it actually means 5 half-tile wagons, thus speed limit of 232-(13-5)^2 21:18:12 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Eh, drop. 21:18:36 <PublicServer> <avdg> ah, so we are using half tiles again then 21:18:52 <PublicServer> <avdg> or am I confused again 21:19:03 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Look at your test with the train 21:19:41 <PublicServer> <avdg> aaaa 21:19:44 <PublicServer> <avdg> I get it 21:20:08 *** KyleS_ has joined #openttdcoop 21:20:18 <KyleS_> !password 21:20:18 <PublicServer> KyleS_: toting 21:20:30 <PublicServer> *** KyleS joined the game 21:20:34 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00008C4E: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00008C4E.png 21:20:48 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hey, KyleS. 21:21:03 <PublicServer> <KyleS> hi mazur 21:21:11 <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm, I found a weird bug with the windows 21:21:32 <PublicServer> <avdg> some windows have right of the pin a minimize button 21:21:43 <PublicServer> <avdg> and it looks like you can use your scroll to open and close it 21:21:52 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hmm 21:22:01 <PublicServer> <VVG> i don't get it, to me it looks useless or even counter-productive 21:22:17 <PublicServer> <Vitus> avdg: And what's the problem? 21:22:43 <PublicServer> <avdg> that the scroll triggers the button left of the pin 21:22:54 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Intended behaviour 21:22:57 <PublicServer> <avdg> the shade window button 21:23:42 <PublicServer> <avdg> :p it ennoys me 21:24:08 <Vitus> Will get you a link to wiki 21:24:09 <PublicServer> <Mazur> s/ennoys/annoys/ 21:24:46 *** thgergo has quit IRC 21:25:07 <Vitus> http://wiki.openttd.org/GUI_Style#Mouse_actions 21:25:23 <Vitus> The mouse wheel (...) 21:25:45 <avdg> I'm still wondering why :p 21:26:06 <Vitus> Open a FS task with feature request :P 21:26:18 <avdg> with a touchpath, I'm faster at a flickering window then a trigger feature 21:28:01 <PublicServer> <VVG> i think i found a network problem 21:28:48 <PublicServer> <VVG> some trains at !asd will try to go through red 2way exit signal 21:30:20 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Try? You mean, ah. 21:30:55 <PublicServer> <Mazur> It does not go straight ahead. 21:30:59 *** Combuster has joined #openttdcoop 21:32:00 <avdg> :/ I hate passwords :p 21:32:03 <PublicServer> <KyleS> does anything need work or is it mostly building primaries right now? :o 21:32:13 <PublicServer> <VVG> check !asd 21:32:35 <PublicServer> <VVG> weapons pickup trains go to 2way red exit sig instead of a free way 21:32:44 <PublicServer> <VVG> some other mb too 21:33:01 <PublicServer> <VVG> and i don't get why 21:33:55 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Nor I. 21:33:58 <PublicServer> <KyleS> nor i 21:34:02 <PublicServer> <KyleS> oh wait 21:34:06 <PublicServer> <KyleS> i think i do 21:34:09 <PublicServer> <VVG> what is 2way eol setting is set to? 21:34:24 <PublicServer> <Vitus> true 21:34:28 <PublicServer> <KyleS> only one of the signals is a 2-way signal 21:34:34 <PublicServer> *** Spike joined the game 21:34:37 <PublicServer> <VVG> then i'm lost 21:35:15 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Everything seems to be electrified 21:35:24 *** Deamonhunter11 has joined #openttdcoop 21:35:34 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000216E8: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000216E8.png 21:35:36 <Deamonhunter11> !password 21:35:36 <PublicServer> Deamonhunter11: calico 21:35:54 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Signals are also facing right direction 21:35:54 <PublicServer> *** Deamonhunter11 joined the game 21:36:29 <PublicServer> *** Mazur has joined spectators 21:36:56 <PublicServer> <Vitus> lol 21:36:56 <PublicServer> <Vitus> I found it 21:37:08 <PublicServer> <KyleS> ooo 21:37:11 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Signal facing wrong direction !here 21:37:14 <PublicServer> <KyleS> one bad signal 21:37:14 <PublicServer> <VVG> what is it? 21:37:19 <PublicServer> <VVG> where? 21:37:23 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Under the bridge 21:37:36 <PublicServer> <VVG> oh 21:37:53 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Nasty one :D 21:37:58 <PublicServer> <KyleS> aye 21:38:16 <PublicServer> <VVG> i was lookg at there, with transparent bridges and didn't see it :( 21:38:32 <PublicServer> <Vitus> I knew it's going to be some signal :P 21:38:43 <PublicServer> <Vitus> But I was looking at pickup, not balancer :D 21:39:44 <PublicServer> <VVG> Vitus? 21:39:48 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Yes? 21:40:03 <PublicServer> <VVG> Can you explain the reason behind penalizing farthest platfroms at fruit-maze drop 21:40:09 <PublicServer> <VVG> ? 21:40:54 <PublicServer> <Vitus> It's just to make sure trains will choose first free platform 21:40:57 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Mostly fail-safe :) 21:41:26 <PublicServer> <VVG> shouldn't it be the other way around? closest penalized, being the fail-safe protection? 21:41:47 <PublicServer> <Vitus> No 21:42:07 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Imagine you have 8 platforms, 1st free and rest full 21:42:28 <PublicServer> <VVG> free one will be taken 21:42:43 <PublicServer> <Vitus> If you penalize the first one, train might disregard it and get stuck somewhere because the rest is full 21:42:52 <PublicServer> <VVG> huh? 21:42:56 <PublicServer> <VVG> why would it disregard it 21:43:23 <PublicServer> <Vitus> If the pathfinder cost is too high, they'll rather try another platform 21:43:41 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Generally, you want trains to fill up platforms from first to last 21:43:44 <PublicServer> <Vitus> This is to ensure they do 21:43:47 <PublicServer> <VVG> hm 21:43:58 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Also, if you look at the entrance 21:44:03 <PublicServer> <VVG> it worked pretty good in last tropic game, at copper pickup 21:44:04 <PublicServer> <Vitus> We have two-way eol 21:45:11 <PublicServer> <VVG> what about presignals and 1st platfroms penalties? 21:45:41 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Presignals would work, yes. But they tend to cause slowdowns if the entrance is too large 21:46:14 <PublicServer> <VVG> check !asd 21:46:42 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Yes, I know what you mean 21:46:45 <PublicServer> <VVG> this setup worked pretty good, with road crossings as penalties 21:47:06 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Actually, this wouldn't work as it is now :P 21:47:20 <PublicServer> <VVG> why? 21:47:47 <PublicServer> <VVG> yeah 21:47:50 <PublicServer> <VVG> that i know 21:48:02 <PublicServer> <VVG> it's just easier to place signals to make a penalty exmaple :p 21:48:33 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Look at Black Gold Drop 21:48:38 <PublicServer> <Vitus> It's something like that, just more fail-safe 21:49:18 <PublicServer> <VVG> hm 21:49:36 <PublicServer> <VVG> no presigs, no need to penalties? 21:49:46 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Yes 21:49:55 <PublicServer> <Vitus> The pathfinder should take care of that alone 21:50:07 <PublicServer> <Vitus> But, if you look at the oil drop again 21:50:13 <PublicServer> <VVG> then why it's usually done with presignals? 21:50:28 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Personl preference? 21:50:35 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003AC2F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003AC2F.png 21:52:40 <PublicServer> <Vitus> You *could* remove the penalties, and it *should* work. This is to make sure it works everytime 21:52:57 <PublicServer> <VVG> gotcha 21:53:31 <PublicServer> <VVG> if there is enough platforms, there is no need for presigns and fancy penalties, right? 21:54:28 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Just look at huge drops in games like PSG182 or 131 (the ones with TL2 trains) 21:54:46 <PublicServer> <Vitus> They too use two-way eol approach as this station 21:54:54 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Without any penalties 21:55:03 <avdg> vitus: it seems the scroll was enabled from the start and it seems also there is an option to disable it, but I still don't know how and if its possible to do it without touching the code 21:55:22 <PublicServer> <Deamonhunter11> guys the human outpost is shrinking :( 21:58:38 <PublicServer> *** Combuster joined the game 21:58:41 <PublicServer> <Deamonhunter11> hello 21:58:41 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 21:58:44 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey 21:58:47 <PublicServer> <Combuster> Hi all 21:58:50 <PublicServer> <VVG> jey 21:58:59 <PublicServer> <VVG> h* 21:59:16 <PublicServer> <Combuster> that read as yay, lol 21:59:49 <PublicServer> <VVG> i'd read j there as in join 22:00:19 <PublicServer> <Combuster> How did the refitting madness go without me? :) 22:00:34 <PublicServer> <Combuster> VVG: yay is written as 'jeej' in my native language 22:00:41 *** Intexon has quit IRC 22:01:01 <PublicServer> <VVG> what is your native lang? 22:01:06 <PublicServer> <Combuster> dutch 22:02:02 *** Barbaar has joined #openttdcoop 22:02:21 <PublicServer> <avdg> owjee... 22:02:29 <PublicServer> *** Barbaar joined the game 22:02:31 <Vitus> Ou jééé 22:02:32 <PublicServer> <VVG> such a simple mistake, which can lead to a big misundertanding :) 22:02:35 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> heya everyone 22:02:44 <PublicServer> <VVG> hey 22:04:01 <avdg> vitus: don't know if I have to report it, its just my sensitive scroll thats the problem 22:04:12 <PublicServer> <Deamonhunter11> what's train 304 doing? 22:04:28 <Vitus> Just open a feature request to include switch on/off for this 22:04:31 <PublicServer> <avdg> nothing 22:04:37 <PublicServer> <avdg> ok 22:05:01 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> what are you guys up to? 22:05:10 <Vitus> I have now feature request for cloning from vehicle list(s) :) 22:05:34 <Vitus> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/3999 22:05:36 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001832D: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0001832D.png 22:05:48 <PublicServer> <Combuster> interesting number 22:06:01 <avdg> lol 22:06:02 <Vitus> I also opened task #4000 :) 22:07:16 <KyleS_> ooo, task 4000 was already fixed and closed :o 22:07:30 *** Paltala has joined #openttdcoop 22:08:23 <Paltala> !password 22:08:23 <PublicServer> Paltala: bluing 22:08:38 <PublicServer> *** Paltala joined the game 22:09:04 <PublicServer> <Paltala> hey guys 22:09:07 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> lo 22:09:10 <PublicServer> <Combuster> Hi Paltala 22:09:13 <PublicServer> <VVG> hey 22:09:18 <PublicServer> <VVG> network is underused :( 22:09:27 <PublicServer> <Paltala> there arent enough primaries 22:09:36 <PublicServer> <Combuster> no? 22:09:45 <PublicServer> <Paltala> sorry, accessible ones? 22:09:51 <PublicServer> <KyleS> there are a few unused ones right now that are beyond the forests 22:10:01 <PublicServer> <KyleS> i.e. outside of the forest 22:10:04 <PublicServer> <Combuster> find the !connect signs 22:10:07 <PublicServer> <KyleS> but only a few :o 22:10:25 <PublicServer> <Paltala> ah, ive got em 22:10:54 *** Progman has quit IRC 22:12:02 *** Vinnie has joined #openttdcoop 22:12:07 <Vinnie> hello 22:12:11 <Vinnie> who banned me 22:12:12 <Vinnie> ? 22:12:35 <Vinnie> and why? 22:12:37 <PublicServer> <Combuster> The community, probably 22:12:44 <Ammler> @kban Vinnie 22:12:44 *** Webster sets mode: +b *!~5356a6f6@salieri.openttdcoop.org 22:12:45 *** Vinnie was kicked by Webster (Ammler) 22:12:57 <Vitus> What exactly happened here? 22:13:55 *** Ammler sets mode: +b *!~5356a6f6@* 22:15:02 <avdg> vitus: http://bugs.openttd.org/task/4011 22:15:07 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> sorry whoever that was, didnt see that station there :) 22:15:22 <PublicServer> <VVG> it's hard to miss it! 22:15:59 <avdg> hmm… I forgot to set the options *damm...* 22:16:50 <PublicServer> <Paltala> how come the trains were changed? 22:17:20 <PublicServer> <VVG> old ones failed they say 22:17:32 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> woops :) 22:17:38 <PublicServer> <Paltala> ah, i liked them 22:17:44 <PublicServer> <Combuster> sorry 22:19:02 <PublicServer> <Paltala> water stations that had !connect signs are now conneted! 22:19:56 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> hah, did someone just edit the orders of the train i cloned? 22:20:14 <PublicServer> <Combuster> I did 22:20:17 <PublicServer> <Combuster> probably 22:20:20 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> aah 22:20:37 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00028B2B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00028B2B.png 22:21:14 <Vitus> Alright avdg 22:22:18 <avdg> :p I hope it isn't that bad to read 22:22:43 <PublicServer> <VVG> geh 22:22:59 <PublicServer> <VVG> our trains have difeerent tls, just a tiny bit :( 22:24:39 <PublicServer> <KyleS> don't forget to sign up at the Builders Board :o 22:24:49 <PublicServer> *** Barbaar has left the game (leaving) 22:24:55 <PublicServer> <Paltala> oh ta, forgot about that 22:25:25 <PublicServer> <Paltala> i cant find it in the sign list D: 22:25:34 <PublicServer> <KyleS> it's below the list of SLH 22:25:34 <PublicServer> <KyleS> SLH's* 22:25:37 <PublicServer> <Paltala> so it is 22:26:02 <PublicServer> <KyleS> in the past i've usually made itgo the top of the list but then someone will usually put it back below the other things :\ 22:26:04 <Vitus> avdg: Delay seems like better idea. I wasn't really sure what your problem is :P 22:26:08 <PublicServer> <KyleS> (if i recall correctly) 22:28:35 <PublicServer> *** Deamonhunter11 has joined company #1 22:29:20 <PublicServer> <Vitus> The goods train looks like camel :D 22:29:35 <PublicServer> <avdg> where? 22:29:39 <PublicServer> <avdg> :d 22:29:55 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Just about any full goods train :) 22:29:58 <PublicServer> <Paltala> go to the copper/rubber drop to get loads of camels :D x 22:30:07 <PublicServer> <Paltala> *snatches back the x* 22:30:07 <PublicServer> <avdg> :o :p 22:30:10 <PublicServer> <VVG> camel invasion! 22:30:13 <PublicServer> <Paltala> you didnt see anything! :P 22:31:31 <PublicServer> *** Deamonhunter11 has left the game (connection lost) 22:31:36 *** Deamonhunter11 has quit IRC 22:34:07 <VVG> i jost got an idea for a new signal type. a 2way signal, one signal is normal signal, another side is combo :). should make building prios easier 22:34:54 <PublicServer> <Paltala> ok, off ya go to get it through the OTTD devs :D x 22:35:00 <PublicServer> <Paltala> *takes back the x again* 22:35:08 <PublicServer> <Vitus> x_X 22:35:08 <PublicServer> <Paltala> darn thing keeps escaping into my messages 22:35:13 <PublicServer> <KyleS> X_x 22:35:34 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Now you don't need to take any x back :P 22:35:35 <PublicServer> <avdg> paltala: did you retest !mass neutraliser? 22:35:37 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00038CDF: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00038CDF.png 22:35:39 *** ODM has quit IRC 22:35:43 <PublicServer> <Paltala> not yet 22:35:52 <PublicServer> <Paltala> i tested it under load of 20 tl4 trains 22:36:02 <PublicServer> <Paltala> everything tried to go middle lane 22:36:23 <PublicServer> <avdg> I think you had wrong toughts about the neutraliser, wich is why it didn't work 22:36:38 <PublicServer> <Paltala> whats it supposed to do then? 22:36:55 <PublicServer> <avdg> the construction above the tunnels are pf-traps 22:37:04 <PublicServer> <Vitus> The point is to reduce difference between paths, not completly annihilate them 22:37:13 <PublicServer> <avdg> I saw you added a lot of signals on it 22:37:28 <PublicServer> <Paltala> yeh... 22:37:33 <PublicServer> <Vitus> You cannot get rid of difference between tracks totally. Unless you use some really special constructions 22:37:54 <PublicServer> <KyleS> what does it do? 22:38:11 *** fmauNeko has joined #openttdcoop 22:38:17 <fmauNeko> !playercount 22:38:17 <PublicServer> fmauNeko: Number of players: 9 22:38:20 <fmauNeko> !password 22:38:20 <PublicServer> fmauNeko: blithe 22:38:27 <PublicServer> <avdg> faking that each lane is about the same length 22:38:34 <PublicServer> *** fmauNeko joined the game 22:38:40 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Hi again 22:38:43 <PublicServer> <Vitus> "about" being the key word here 22:38:49 <PublicServer> <KyleS> oic 22:38:58 <PublicServer> <Vitus> The pathfinder will choose cheaper track even though the path cost might be only 1 point lower 22:39:13 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Combuster: I think you saw it, I finished to fix all the unfixed trains remaining 22:39:32 <PublicServer> <avdg> you still need a good balancer then 22:39:54 <PublicServer> <Vitus> It improves the balancer to pay more attention to traffic in front :) 22:40:36 <PublicServer> <Combuster> The mass neutralzer works as expected 22:41:09 <PublicServer> <KyleS> i wish i could think of a way to develop a pathfinding algorithm that utilized multiple cores of a processor :o 22:41:18 <PublicServer> <Paltala> O_o 22:41:21 <PublicServer> <avdg> testing under load 22:41:30 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Only way to have perfectly balanced paths would be something like this: 22:41:45 <PublicServer> <avdg> :) 22:41:45 <Combuster> KyleS: http://dimensionalrift.homelinux.net/combuster/Multithreaded%20Pathfinder.pdf 22:44:03 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 22:44:20 <PublicServer> <Combuster> Now try that again for 3 tracks :) 22:44:31 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Yes, that'd be harder :P 22:44:52 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Going off, see you 22:44:55 <PublicServer> <avdg> cya 22:45:00 <PublicServer> *** Vitus has left the game (leaving) 22:45:06 <PublicServer> <avdg> :) 22:45:09 <PublicServer> <Combuster> Cya Vitus 22:45:18 <PublicServer> <avdg> nice to see some attention at the neutraliser 22:45:58 <PublicServer> <Combuster> I believe it should not be needed with good building style... 22:46:08 <PublicServer> <avdg> indeed 22:46:44 <KyleS_> ooo combuster, thanks for the link :o 22:46:54 <PublicServer> <avdg> I hate it to add, but at the other way, better such a construction then jams 22:47:15 <PublicServer> <Hippidy> last human outpost transfer has 1.5 million litres of water waiting :) 22:47:25 <Vitus> Combuster: While you can reduce the influence of it indeed, you cannot completly eliminate it due to the way hubs are built (that means two or more tracks rarely have same PF cost) 22:47:58 <PublicServer> <Combuster> Entries/balancers should put trains where the most space is 22:48:07 <PublicServer> <Combuster> usually by means of an EOL 22:48:28 <PublicServer> <Combuster> compared to that, any difference is insignificant 22:48:49 <Vitus> Might have time later to talk about it :P 22:48:53 <Vitus> Good night for now 22:48:56 <PublicServer> <avdg> gn 22:49:11 <PublicServer> <KyleS> nn 22:49:14 *** Vitus has quit IRC 22:49:14 <PublicServer> <Combuster> wtf 22:49:20 <PublicServer> <Combuster> connected water pump shutting down 22:49:26 <PublicServer> <avdg> lol 22:49:41 <PublicServer> <avdg> waterpump with crazy managers 22:50:24 <PublicServer> <Combuster> they're off to depot 22:50:35 <PublicServer> <Paltala> good 22:50:37 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002A54C: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002A54C.png 22:51:49 <PublicServer> <Combuster> crap 22:51:52 <PublicServer> <Paltala> ? 22:51:58 <PublicServer> <Combuster> window manager crashed 22:52:01 <PublicServer> <Paltala> ouch? 22:54:50 *** mib_k59cly has joined #openttdcoop 22:54:57 <mib_k59cly> Hello 22:55:20 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Hi, mibbit user :p 22:55:23 <PublicServer> <VVG> hey 22:55:33 <mib_k59cly> how you guess? 22:55:45 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Your nick, maybe ? :p 22:55:50 <mib_k59cly> is V53000 here 22:55:57 <mib_k59cly> im lookking for him 22:56:22 <fmauNeko> V453000: The world needs you 22:56:29 <mib_k59cly> its me Vinnie 22:56:32 <PublicServer> <Spike> bleh.. bnc shut down :) 22:56:36 <mib_k59cly> do you know why im banned 22:56:41 <PublicServer> <Paltala> plus your logong ip of 5356a6f6@ircip1.mibbit.com kinda gave it away 22:57:04 <mib_k59cly> he said something about banned and then it happen 22:57:25 <PublicServer> <Spike> Ammler: Check IP vs Other universe IP 22:57:28 <PublicServer> <Spike> US vs NL 22:57:51 <mib_k59cly> can you please explain 22:57:54 <mib_k59cly> i dont get that 22:58:02 <PublicServer> <Spike> as long as Ammler understands it 22:58:14 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Combuster 22:58:14 <PublicServer> <Spike> my bnc timed out so can't confirm it exactly :D 22:58:14 <PublicServer> *** Paltala has left the game (connection lost) 22:58:14 *** Paltala has quit IRC 22:58:21 <mib_k59cly> can i then get a savegame 22:58:32 <mib_k59cly> least you can give me 22:58:40 *** Ammler sets mode: +b *!*5356a6f6@* 22:58:48 *** Ammler sets mode: -b *!~5356a6f6@salieri.openttdcoop.org 22:59:02 *** Ammler sets mode: -b *!~5356a6f6@* 22:59:09 <PublicServer> <Spike> personally i think it is a mis understanding cause of your nick 22:59:09 <PublicServer> <Hippidy> just want to make sure but can I connect last human outpost fruit plantation !here? 22:59:30 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Of course 22:59:33 <PublicServer> *** Spike has joined company #1 22:59:39 <PublicServer> <Spike> yeah you can 22:59:39 <PublicServer> <Hippidy> ok 22:59:39 <Ammler> @kick mib_k59cly 22:59:39 *** mib_k59cly was kicked by Webster (Ammler) 22:59:42 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> It's written !connect on it 22:59:45 <PublicServer> <Spike> Ammler 22:59:48 <PublicServer> <Spike> verify IP 22:59:52 <Ammler> ^Spike^: ? 22:59:55 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> But use e-rail now :p 22:59:55 <PublicServer> <Spike> i doubt it's the vinnie you're after 22:59:58 <PublicServer> <Hippidy> I know, but I wasn't sure if that was a sl 23:00:01 <PublicServer> <Spike> type /whowas that nick ammler 23:00:04 <PublicServer> <Spike> see the real name 23:00:07 <PublicServer> <Spike> it's a dutch IP 23:00:13 <PublicServer> <Spike> the guy we're after is USA 23:00:22 <Ammler> I don't care 23:00:45 <Ammler> the nick and behavior was fine enough 23:00:45 <PublicServer> <Spike> you kick him cause he used a nick of someone we banned? 23:01:43 <Ammler> just read on .stable 23:01:53 <PublicServer> <Spike> bnc shut down... so reading is hard :) 23:02:06 *** [com]buster has joined #openttdcoop 23:02:48 <Razaekel> man, i hope nobody named Raz or something similar pisses off ammler 23:02:58 <Razaekel> i'd hate to be the victim of mistaken identity 23:03:05 <Razaekel> >.> 23:03:22 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> ^^ 23:03:25 *** ^Spike^ has quit IRC 23:04:20 <Ammler> Razaekel: banning vinnie is to protect you :-) 23:04:32 <Razaekel> oh ammler, you care for me! 23:04:36 <Razaekel> you lovely man! 23:04:49 * [com]buster notices a popcorn moment 23:04:50 <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (leaving) 23:04:58 <Ammler> that guy is so stupid and everytime uses the same nick again 23:05:37 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003CC88: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003CC88.png 23:05:53 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Moar stupidity 23:06:47 <V453000> stupidity is rather leass :p 23:07:37 <Ammler> but a reason for ban 23:08:04 *** Combuster has quit IRC 23:08:04 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 23:08:16 <Ammler> @topic add Vinnie keep away 23:08:16 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #191 (r20279) | STAGE: Building | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | Welcome to the depths of insanity | create a wiki userpage | Vinnie keep away" 23:08:25 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Haha :p 23:08:37 <VVG> what's the difference between stable and and ps? except the obvious version difference 23:09:01 <PublicServer> <Combuster> we may have bugs 23:09:04 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Stable is competition 23:09:05 <V453000> VVG: stable is for noobs and me :p 23:09:10 <PublicServer> <Combuster> or at least, more bugs on average 23:09:19 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> MOAR bugs 23:10:45 <avdg> crush them! 23:10:52 *** Vinnie has joined #openttdcoop 23:10:57 <Vinnie> so im back 23:11:04 <Vinnie> plz dont kick me again 23:11:10 <Vinnie> i wanna ask some questions 23:11:16 <PublicServer> <KyleS> question about Platypus Playground Heights 23:11:32 <PublicServer> <KyleS> it seems like it is too far into the jungle o.0 23:11:47 <PublicServer> <KyleS> in terms of how far the tracks leading up to it go through the jungle 23:11:47 <PublicServer> <Hippidy> just slightly :) 23:11:47 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> I already told it :p 23:11:59 <Vinnie> btw hello all 23:12:05 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Tracks are 10 tiles away from the city 23:12:31 <Vinnie> spike are you here 23:12:52 *** Vinnie has quit IRC 23:13:03 <V453000> wah :D he quit himself 23:13:11 <fmauNeko> :D 23:13:16 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Combuster 23:13:44 *** Vinnie has joined #openttdcoop 23:13:57 <Vinnie> Amler? 23:14:02 <Combuster> @kban Vinnie 23:14:06 <Vinnie> could you tell me why im banned? 23:14:22 <Vinnie> i got no warning or whatever 23:14:29 <Ammler> because you are Vinnie 23:14:31 <Vinnie> nor a reason 23:14:39 <Ammler> can't you remember? 23:14:40 <Vinnie> what is wrong with that ? 23:14:43 <Vinnie> no 23:15:01 <Vinnie> could you refresh my mind ? 23:15:13 <V453000> F5 ftw 23:15:17 <Ammler> @kban Vinnie does this help you? 23:15:17 *** Webster sets mode: +b *!~Vinnie@5356A6F6.cable.casema.nl 23:15:18 *** Vinnie was kicked by Webster (does this help you?) 23:15:23 <avdg> wtf 23:15:27 <PublicServer> <VVG> slh 03 is overused ;( 23:15:32 <KyleS_> ... i suspect that it doesn't help him 23:15:47 <PublicServer> <Combuster> The SL connected to that has grown a tad too large 23:15:48 <avdg> someone who <3 highlighting :/ 23:16:00 <Ammler> now, I am away, goood night 23:16:05 <avdg> gn 23:16:09 <PublicServer> <VVG> b 23:16:18 <PublicServer> <Combuster> 'night Ammler 23:16:23 <V453000> seeya :) 23:16:37 <fmauNeko> 'Night Ammler :) 23:17:47 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Well, What else to connect ? 23:17:55 <fmauNeko> !screen 23:17:55 <PublicServer> *** fmauNeko made screenshot at 00038198: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00038198.png 23:19:03 <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (connection lost) 23:19:09 <PublicServer> *** KyleS has left the game (leaving) 23:19:13 *** KyleS_ has quit IRC 23:20:18 *** gaagfdfad has joined #openttdcoop 23:20:26 <gaagfdfad> Nope i did not get it 23:20:31 <gaagfdfad> btw im Vinnie 23:20:38 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000E42A: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000E42A.png 23:20:39 <gaagfdfad> could you explain again ? 23:20:43 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Can I lol ? 23:20:44 <Combuster> @kban gaagfdfad Your ban still stands 23:20:44 <Webster> Combuster: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. 23:20:56 *** Combuster sets mode: +b *!~4@5356A6F6.cable.casema.nl 23:20:56 *** gaagfdfad was kicked by Combuster (Kick!) 23:20:57 <fmauNeko> Hahahahahaha 23:21:21 <fmauNeko> These bots, never working when we need them :p 23:22:08 <PublicServer> *** Combuster has left the game (connection lost) 23:24:01 <PublicServer> *** VVG has left the game (connection lost) 23:25:04 *** [com]buster has joined #openttdcoop 23:27:04 *** Vinnie_again has joined #openttdcoop 23:27:07 <Vinnie_again> so 23:27:12 <Vinnie_again> no reason last kick 23:27:18 <Vinnie_again> you guys are getting rude 23:27:19 <V453000> @kban Vinnie_again 23:27:19 *** Webster sets mode: +b *!~Vinnie_ag@5356A6F6.cable.casema.nl 23:27:20 *** Vinnie_again was kicked by Webster (V453000) 23:27:29 <fmauNeko> :/ 23:27:32 <avdg> wtf 23:27:47 <fmauNeko> He seems to like being kicked 23:27:49 <avdg> hmm does the joker * not work? 23:27:54 <fmauNeko> He's a kick fetichist 23:27:57 <PublicServer> <Hippidy> wow, he doesn't quit does he? 23:28:07 <V453000> he will in time 23:28:11 *** Combuster is now known as Guest1150 23:28:11 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 23:28:18 <avdg> I hope he won't pm us 23:28:28 <Razaekel> ip says netherlands 23:28:28 <V453000> he is too dumb to do that 23:28:33 <Razaekel> if im reading it right 23:28:36 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Combuster 23:28:38 *** Combuster sets mode: +b *!*@5356A6F6.cable.casema.nl 23:28:44 <Combuster> this should probably last longer 23:28:52 <Razaekel> if he's dumb, then he doesnt know how to use a proxy, right? 23:29:10 *** Guest1150 has quit IRC 23:29:35 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> He should use the onion router :p 23:30:47 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Well, we have 400 trains now 23:32:29 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Haha 23:32:38 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> The last human outpost now has 28 water towers 23:32:50 <V453000> is there anything else? :D 23:33:11 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Yes, only three banks 23:33:17 <V453000> ok 23:33:29 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> and 22.671 citizens 23:33:29 <avdg> buildbuildbuild :p 23:34:06 <V453000> I guess I wouldnt really like living in a water tower 23:34:15 <V453000> but well it is war 23:34:22 * avdg transforms into a fish 23:34:57 <V453000> how fresh do you think that water is? :D 23:35:08 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> I recently seen an awesome refurbishment of an old water tower as a house 23:35:38 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000351AF: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000351AF.png 23:37:02 <avdg> hehe, I'm wondering howmany hacks vinnie is trying now to join the channel agan 23:37:04 <avdg> *again 23:37:20 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> He needs moar onions 23:37:29 <avdg> :p 23:37:41 *** [com]buster has joined #openttdcoop 23:37:55 <Razaekel> well, you could just ban *.nl 23:38:03 <avdg> :d 23:38:21 <avdg> and I left as 1 of the only dutchies arround here 23:38:26 <avdg> no way :p 23:38:40 <fmauNeko> Ban *.nl ? 23:38:40 <V453000> fear not 23:38:43 <V453000> we will ban you too 23:38:49 <avdg> :d 23:39:02 <Razaekel> :D 23:41:05 *** Combuster has quit IRC 23:41:05 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 23:42:14 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Who is doing these nasty penalties calculation near the Rations factory station ? 23:43:28 <Combuster> nobody 23:43:41 <Combuster> its been there for a day now 23:46:02 <PublicServer> *** avdg has left the game (connection lost) 23:46:56 <V453000> I would expect Vitus 23:48:44 <PublicServer> <Hippidy> hmm... overflow near copper + robber drop is being used when not needed 23:48:50 <PublicServer> <Hippidy> rubber* 23:49:38 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> The problem is that the station design isn't totally great 23:50:07 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> And adding a correct overflow there is kinda hard 23:50:13 <PublicServer> <Hippidy> looks like every other train goes into it// 23:50:38 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003CCDA: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003CCDA.png 23:55:20 <PublicServer> <Hippidy> oh.. nvm 23:56:20 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 23:56:30 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> This should work 23:58:20 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> There's really no room, even for prios 23:58:24 *** Barbaar has quit IRC 23:58:41 <PublicServer> <Hippidy> k 23:59:26 <PublicServer> <Hippidy> won't normal signals work there? 23:59:38 <V453000> overflows arent always needed 23:59:44 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Combos are better 23:59:52 <V453000> in fact, most of the time you dont need overflows