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00:05:00 *** robotboy has joined #openttdcoop 00:15:14 <Mazur> Hello. 00:59:34 *** robotboy has quit IRC 01:16:56 *** avdg has quit IRC 01:19:54 *** TBob has joined #openttdcoop 01:30:11 *** TBob has quit IRC 01:56:10 *** olleman has quit IRC 01:56:46 *** dafkis has quit IRC 01:57:16 *** dafkis has joined #openttdcoop 02:13:48 *** olleman has joined #openttdcoop 02:36:04 *** robotboy has joined #openttdcoop 02:59:45 *** lugo has quit IRC 03:07:04 *** KyleS_ has joined #openttdcoop 03:07:12 <KyleS_> !players 03:07:14 <PublicServer> KyleS_: There are currently no clients connected to the server 03:08:34 *** KyleS_ has quit IRC 03:33:28 *** robotboy has quit IRC 04:18:26 *** robotboy has joined #openttdcoop 04:39:52 *** Firartix has joined #openttdcoop 05:22:11 *** Firartix has quit IRC 05:37:28 *** robotboy has quit IRC 05:45:24 *** robotboy has joined #openttdcoop 06:25:19 *** ryx has joined #openttdcoop 06:35:08 *** robotboy has quit IRC 06:38:40 *** ^Spike^ has joined #openttdcoop 06:38:41 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ^Spike^ 06:40:21 *** benom has joined #openttdcoop 06:51:30 *** Fuco has joined #openttdcoop 06:51:34 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Fuco 07:18:12 *** robotboy has joined #openttdcoop 07:24:50 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 07:27:47 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop 07:27:48 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 07:36:16 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 07:39:59 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 07:52:39 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 07:57:09 *** perk11 has quit IRC 08:07:35 *** dafkis is now known as davis 08:12:00 <dihedral> no, there is no irc channel for it 08:12:06 <dihedral> it's just plain running and logging 08:12:18 <dihedral> but thanks for offering the blog space to me :-) 08:12:23 <dihedral> i might indeed make use of that 08:17:15 <davis> late ass response? :D 08:24:46 *** robotboy has quit IRC 08:26:32 <planetmaker> doesn't matter, davis :-) Bouncers make it possible ;-) 08:27:28 <davis> magic of the irc. 08:30:42 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 08:32:39 *** Giant has joined #openttdcoop 08:42:21 <dihedral> :-P 08:42:58 *** robotboy has joined #openttdcoop 09:00:03 *** davis has quit IRC 09:03:19 *** smoovi has joined #openttdcoop 09:27:52 *** robotboy has quit IRC 09:42:09 *** |Giant| has joined #openttdcoop 09:44:42 *** Giant is now known as Guest523 09:44:42 *** |Giant| is now known as Giant 09:48:33 *** Guest523 has quit IRC 09:50:01 *** Cap_J_L_Picard has quit IRC 10:24:01 <dihedral> http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2010/09/23/testing-fs-3637-a-game-inviting-competition/ 10:26:13 *** ryx has quit IRC 10:37:02 <Webster> Latest update from blog: Testing FS 3637 – A Game Inviting Competition <http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2010/09/23/testing-fs-3637-a-game-inviting-competition/> 10:39:43 *** Firartix has joined #openttdcoop 10:42:25 *** davis has joined #openttdcoop 10:44:52 *** |Giant| has joined #openttdcoop 10:47:36 *** ryx has joined #openttdcoop 10:47:50 *** Giant has quit IRC 10:53:43 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 10:53:44 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 11:42:18 <V453000> btw the link is broken 11:42:33 <V453000> adds > to the end 11:43:13 <greenlion> V453000, it is your irc client is broken :) 11:43:42 <V453000> :) 11:45:13 <V453000> Ammler: what else would I use :p 11:45:32 <Ammler> maybe I should check for an update, but not it helps 11:45:32 *** avdg has quit IRC 11:45:46 <Ammler> but lovely dih did paste the link without > :-P 11:46:09 <V453000> yarr 11:46:17 <V453000> I still got to it via the home page :p 11:46:25 <greenlion> V453000, use xchat :) 11:46:35 <V453000> I tried 11:46:38 <V453000> sox 11:46:58 <V453000> this is fine with me :) 11:47:04 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 11:47:04 <Ammler> @topic remove -1 11:47:04 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #193 (r20801) | STAGE: Building | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | Welcome to the depths of insanity" 11:47:06 <Ammler> @topic remove -1 11:47:06 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #193 (r20801) | STAGE: Building | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder" 11:47:08 <Ammler> @topic remove -1 11:47:08 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #193 (r20801) | STAGE: Building | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org" 11:47:25 <Ammler> @topic add Help testing! http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2010/09/23/testing-fs-3637-a-game-inviting-competition/ 11:47:25 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #193 (r20801) | STAGE: Building | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Help testing! http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2010/09/23/testing-fs-3637-a-game-inviting-competition/" 11:50:58 <V453000> does that thing have IRC? 11:51:21 <Ammler> not yet :-( 11:51:33 <Ammler> maybe dih joins his lovely jbot? 11:51:34 <V453000> qq 11:52:25 <Ammler> dihedral: you could use the .dev channel 11:57:45 <V453000> why am I the only one there :p 12:01:36 <V453000> btw 12:01:40 <V453000> why the hell is there original acceleration :( 12:02:31 <V453000> we could be testing but at least make proper config file please :( 12:11:45 *** |Giant| has quit IRC 12:12:23 <Ammler> maybe provide one of your nice prepared maps? 12:12:38 <V453000> without newgrfs? 12:12:42 <V453000> or with? 12:12:49 <Ammler> without might be better 12:13:07 <V453000> I guess :p 12:13:12 <V453000> sure, will make one in a minute 12:13:40 <V453000> small/large? that one was 1024^2 ... I think we done need any larger than 512^2 12:13:54 <Ammler> dihedral: ^ 12:14:58 <dihedral> Ammler, i do not want to muck around with that 12:15:09 <Ammler> with? 12:15:19 <dihedral> seeing as we found out yesterday that openttdcoop is the wrong address, i decided to just start the binary 12:15:32 <dihedral> i do not care for the config, i only care to see if the distributed cargo to the stations is fine 12:15:42 <dihedral> if you want any fancies - then you can step up 12:15:43 <Ammler> well, ok :-o 12:16:06 <dihedral> i am more than happy if you want to do it on the dev zone 12:16:10 <V453000> well with improper config people might not want to play and I can provide you a map if you dont want to mess with it yourself :p 12:16:40 <dihedral> you can give me some config if you like too 12:16:53 <V453000> I guess it is easier to send map :p 12:17:39 <Ammler> V453000: just be sure, it is made on a "clean" client 12:17:41 <dihedral> or grap the patch and run it on .devzone 12:17:55 <dihedral> 'clean' being that specific version :-P 12:18:59 <Ammler> (gamelog shouldn't have changes already) 12:19:43 <V453000> I have the zip extracted plus opengfx 12:19:56 <V453000> and config :) 12:20:55 <Ammler> dihedral: I thought, you patched it with your bot patch to make logging 12:21:11 <Ammler> and so it might have been easy to join irc, that's all 12:23:24 <V453000> http://blog.openttdcoop.org/files/blog/V453000/testmap3637.sav there you go btw 12:23:51 <dihedral> Ammler, nope - just one patch with extra debug outpot 12:25:23 <dihedral> ERROR: Game Load Failed?Savegame is made with newer version 12:25:28 <V453000> lo 12:25:37 <V453000> it is with that binary 12:25:50 <dihedral> it is? :-D 12:25:51 <dihedral> lol 12:25:56 <V453000> ye 12:26:41 <V453000> hmm wtf :o 12:28:05 <V453000> http://blog.openttdcoop.org/files/blog/V453000/openttd.cfg or this way if you want .. 12:31:14 <dihedral> running 12:31:15 <dihedral> thanks 12:32:11 <V453000> yw 12:32:25 <dihedral> used the savegame 12:32:27 <dihedral> oh - ops 12:33:27 <dihedral> sorted 12:33:58 <V453000> seems fine :) 12:41:47 <planetmaker> IMHO for testing this newgrf are nothing to worry about 12:42:13 <V453000> we dont need them either I think :p 12:42:20 <planetmaker> nope :-) 12:48:44 *** davis has quit IRC 12:56:47 *** davis has joined #openttdcoop 12:57:19 *** Intexon has joined #openttdcoop 13:28:33 *** Sylf_mobile has joined #openttdcoop 13:48:34 *** Giant has joined #openttdcoop 14:00:04 <uliko_> !password 14:00:05 <PublicServer> uliko_: awoken 14:00:07 <Sylf_mobile> the latest screenshot for ps is pretty ironic 14:00:22 <PublicServer> *** uliko joined the game 14:07:11 <hylje> !screen 14:07:11 <PublicServer> *** hylje liked to make screenshot of last action, but nobody was working since. (http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003402B.png) 14:09:18 <PublicServer> *** uliko has left the game (leaving) 14:22:16 <SmatZ> haha @ "CL fixed" 14:22:26 <SmatZ> it's like CL2 14:23:49 *** TheRisen has joined #openttdcoop 14:32:11 *** Webster has joined #openttdcoop 14:32:11 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Webster 14:32:23 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ has left the game (leaving) 14:39:54 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003402E: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003402E.png 14:44:13 *** dvs_ has joined #openttdcoop 14:44:47 *** davis has quit IRC 14:48:10 *** robotboy has joined #openttdcoop 14:52:06 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ joined the game 14:56:14 <SmatZ> I would fix it if anyone joined for 1 min :) 14:56:28 <TheRisen> !password 14:56:28 <PublicServer> TheRisen: awoken 14:57:04 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> thanks 14:57:09 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 14:57:09 <PublicServer> *** TheRisen joined the game 14:57:11 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> hello 14:57:14 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> hey 14:57:23 <PublicServer> *** Mazur joined the game 14:57:58 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> hello Mazur, too :) 15:00:33 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ has left the game (leaving) 15:01:32 *** dvs_ is now known as davis 15:02:10 <Mazur> Hi. 15:03:29 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> do we rly need a 4th track leaving the wood/coal drop? 15:03:55 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> it works quite fine atm 15:04:12 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ joined the game 15:04:33 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> we !need a 4th lane 15:04:35 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> first 15:04:46 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ has left the game (connection lost) 15:05:18 <PublicServer> <Mazur> TheRisen: Another question: uliko believes trains from !whoever can't reach COAL DROP. I'm sure they can. Am I mad? 15:06:16 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> well lets check 15:07:45 <Sylf_mobile> !screen 15:07:45 <PublicServer> *** Sylf_mobile made screenshot at 00014469: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00014469.png 15:09:08 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Nope, I'm right, just followed a train past there to WOOD/COAL DROP. 15:09:55 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000358BB: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000358BB.png 15:10:26 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> i can't see a problem too 15:11:09 <Sylf_mobile> that screenshot has a broken prio 15:11:29 <Sylf_mobile> on north lane 15:11:44 *** robotboy has quit IRC 15:12:02 <TheRisen> y wrong signaling 15:12:09 <TheRisen> where is it? 15:13:04 <Sylf_mobile> exit signal on the prio lane 15:13:15 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> i meant the location 15:13:47 <Sylf_mobile> on the extra lane 15:14:12 <Sylf_mobile> i cant join the game right now :/ 15:14:18 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> north west south east? 15:14:24 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> i can't find it 15:14:26 <Sylf_mobile> north 15:15:12 <Sylf_mobile> it's by the wood train at the top of the screenshot 15:15:26 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> yes 15:15:36 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> but where is this scrren from? 15:15:52 <Sylf_mobile> i have no idea 15:16:10 <Sylf_mobile> close to d2? 15:16:37 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> yeah got it 15:16:41 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> slh 11 15:17:46 <PublicServer> <Mazur> It's a proper prio and a line without joining just after, Sylf. 15:18:12 <PublicServer> <Mazur> A line whose function is utterly mysterious. 15:18:39 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Oh, that prio. 15:18:57 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> fixed 15:19:44 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 15:20:13 <PublicServer> <Mazur> I'm removing that extra line along hte south, I suspect it was a temporary bypass after a jam to let trains waiting for hte exit wait wirthout holding up traffic behind it. 15:21:29 <Sylf_mobile> there's CL on southern track in the same screenshot 15:24:48 <TheRisen> gone 15:24:55 <TheRisen> this was the bypass mazur talking about 15:24:55 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00013E78: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00013E78.png 15:25:02 *** thgergo has joined #openttdcoop 15:25:23 *** pugi has quit IRC 15:27:49 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 15:29:22 *** sharpy has joined #openttdcoop 15:31:11 <sharpy> !playercount 15:31:11 <PublicServer> sharpy: Number of players: 2 (0 spectators) 15:39:36 *** Yexo__ is now known as Yexo 15:39:56 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00013270: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00013270.png 15:41:10 <PublicServer> *** TheRisen has left the game (leaving) 15:41:10 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 15:42:15 <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (leaving) 15:45:22 *** Cap_J_L_Picard has joined #openttdcoop 15:59:43 *** Giant has quit IRC 15:59:46 *** sharpy has quit IRC 16:15:37 *** einKarl has joined #openttdcoop 16:17:11 *** Progman has quit IRC 16:17:47 *** gnemo has joined #openttdcoop 16:39:19 *** Sylf_mobile has quit IRC 16:40:11 *** Sylf_mobile has joined #openttdcoop 16:49:55 *** greenlion has quit IRC 16:50:30 *** greenlion has joined #openttdcoop 17:04:36 <Webster> Latest update from blog: Testing FS 3637 – A Game Inviting Competition [Update] <http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2010/09/23/testing-fs-3637-a-game-inviting-competition/> 17:20:40 <uliko_> No really guys, they can't 17:21:01 <uliko_> If they pick the west track to join, they will have to loop around the entire network to get to coal/wood 17:21:37 <uliko_> You took the split-before-join concept too far and merged the SLH after the split for the BBH 17:21:56 <uliko_> !password 17:21:56 <PublicServer> uliko_: deigns 17:22:14 <PublicServer> *** uliko joined the game 17:24:16 <TheRisen> uliko that's not true 17:24:32 <uliko_> Yes it is 17:24:46 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 17:24:48 <PublicServer> *** TheRisen joined the game 17:24:56 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000350AF: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000350AF.png 17:25:02 <PublicServer> <uliko> Let me redirect a train to show you 17:25:03 *** ryx has quit IRC 17:25:08 <PublicServer> <uliko> Train 1070 17:25:37 <PublicServer> *** als joined the game 17:25:42 <PublicServer> <uliko> Look at that, forced to go west 17:26:00 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> wait wait 17:27:31 *** einKarl has quit IRC 17:27:51 <PublicServer> <uliko> Do you see it now? 17:30:09 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> okay you are right 17:30:17 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> that needs to be fixed 17:30:32 <PublicServer> <uliko> It was fine until someone "fixed" it 17:31:07 <PublicServer> <uliko> But leave it for now 17:31:14 <PublicServer> <uliko> So Mazur can see what's wrong too 17:32:17 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 17:32:55 <PublicServer> *** TheRisen has left the game (leaving) 17:33:08 <PublicServer> *** uliko has joined spectators 17:33:08 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 17:33:25 <PublicServer> *** als has left the game (leaving) 17:39:56 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00036AC5: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00036AC5.png 17:48:03 *** davis has quit IRC 17:50:38 *** davis has joined #openttdcoop 18:07:34 *** davis has quit IRC 18:07:50 *** davis has joined #openttdcoop 18:09:39 <olleman> !password 18:09:40 <PublicServer> olleman: deigns 18:09:52 <PublicServer> *** olleman joined the game 18:10:20 <PublicServer> *** olleman has left the game (connection lost) 18:11:27 *** Nickman87 has quit IRC 18:15:04 *** avdg has quit IRC 18:15:09 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 18:16:03 *** avdg has quit IRC 18:16:45 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 18:20:39 <olleman> gah cargodist has my saliva running 18:20:45 <olleman> fonso is doing an impressive job 18:20:45 *** avdg has quit IRC 18:21:52 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 18:27:04 *** Nickman87 has joined #openttdcoop 18:29:27 <planetmaker> hehe :-) 18:29:45 <planetmaker> have you been playing then on one of the CD servers? 18:30:46 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 18:32:14 <olleman> there are servers running it?` 18:32:14 *** avdg has quit IRC 18:32:16 <olleman> I feel enlightened ;) 18:32:49 <olleman> could you point me to a server that's running it? or do they just turn green in the server browser? 18:33:27 <V453000> you need to have the correct version 18:33:28 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 18:33:35 <olleman> I figure as much 18:33:51 <V453000> then you need to know some server :) I dont know of any so I cant help you 18:34:07 <V453000> but I wouldnt search for CD since I dont really like it, so I might be just not enlightened :p 18:35:09 <olleman> hehe 18:36:47 *** Intexon has quit IRC 18:37:12 *** Intexon has joined #openttdcoop 18:37:13 <planetmaker> olleman: servers.openttd.org will show you 18:37:47 <olleman> you're a saint planetmaker. I assume the server version is what gives it away? 18:37:57 <olleman> g3f19418eM-cd for instance 18:39:20 <Ammler> yep... 18:41:12 <planetmaker> exactly 18:41:35 <olleman> awesome 18:47:12 *** kuch3n has joined #openttdcoop 18:47:12 *** avdg has quit IRC 18:48:05 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 18:51:55 *** gnemonix has joined #openttdcoop 18:56:21 <V453000> !info 18:56:22 <PublicServer> V453000: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'MacDonald & Co.' Year Founded: 1950 Money: 39535960639 Loan: 0 Value: 39541296642 (T:1200, R:47, P:0, S:4) unprotected 18:56:25 <V453000> !playercount 18:56:25 <PublicServer> V453000: Number of players: 1 (1 spectators) 18:57:11 *** gnemobuntu has joined #openttdcoop 18:57:28 <V453000> !password 18:57:28 <PublicServer> V453000: deigns 18:57:43 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 18:57:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi there 18:58:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> how is this thing? 18:58:10 *** Gumpie has joined #openttdcoop 18:58:17 <Gumpie> hello 18:58:26 <V453000> h 18:58:27 <V453000> i 18:58:41 <Gumpie> o.k this chat is muuuch better 18:58:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> for the stable server you will need to join #openttdcoop.stable :p 18:59:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> but welcome here too ;) 18:59:18 *** gnemo has quit IRC 18:59:40 <olleman> hehe 19:01:13 *** gnemonix has quit IRC 19:01:13 *** avdg has quit IRC 19:01:31 <V453000> come join :p 19:01:33 <V453000> lets finish this 19:02:12 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 19:02:14 <olleman> ctrl+drag light... life is good 19:04:06 <V453000> !unpause 19:04:06 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has unpaused the server. (Use !auto to set it back.) 19:04:08 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 19:04:09 <V453000> lets see the jams :) 19:05:39 <olleman> do the train on the server ignore inclines? 19:05:47 <olleman> trains* 19:05:49 <V453000> inclines? 19:05:59 <olleman> when going up a hill 19:06:15 <V453000> you mean they dont slow down when climbing 19:06:20 <olleman> yeah 19:06:22 <V453000> sure, they are very powerful 19:06:26 <olleman> oh I see 19:06:29 <olleman> lovely 19:06:44 <V453000> if your trains slow down to 30kmh on every little hill, check you advanced settings 19:06:55 <PublicServer> *** greenlion joined the game 19:06:56 <V453000> adv settings -> vehicles -> trains -> realistic acceleration model 19:07:03 <V453000> !auto 19:07:04 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has enabled autopause mode. 19:07:04 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 19:07:06 <V453000> hi zebra 19:07:12 <PublicServer> <greenlion> hey V666 19:07:13 <olleman> It was running on original 19:07:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> come join company please :p 19:07:17 <PublicServer> *** greenlion has joined company #1 19:07:17 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 19:07:19 <olleman> gonna give a go with realistic, thanks. 19:07:23 <V453000> yes :) 19:07:25 <V453000> yw 19:07:35 <PublicServer> *** greenlion has changed his/her name to greenzebra 19:07:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> :D 19:07:41 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has changed his/her name to V666 19:07:52 <olleman> wow the difference is day and night 19:08:01 <V453000> ? 19:08:04 <V453000> day and night? 19:08:13 <V453000> you mean like total difference 19:08:13 <olleman> it's very obvious 19:08:16 <olleman> yeah 19:08:16 <V453000> sure 19:08:29 <V453000> btw original is unacceptable for "normal" gameplay ;) 19:08:52 <olleman> haha it really makes me bitter to see the trains slow down to a trickle 19:09:14 <V453000> indeed 19:09:16 <PublicServer> <greenzebra> V, so, what are you going to finish? :) 19:09:23 <V453000> the worst thing is you cant do shit about it with original 19:09:35 <PublicServer> <V666> well that is what I am searching for 19:09:38 <olleman> not even the best trains can handle it well 19:09:43 * olleman nods 19:09:49 <V453000> just use realistic :p 19:10:34 <PublicServer> <uliko> So what's left here? Even more lines around wood/coal? 19:10:35 *** avdg has quit IRC 19:10:51 <PublicServer> <V666> no idea 19:10:58 <PublicServer> <V666> I dont see much issues so far 19:11:17 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 19:11:18 <PublicServer> <greenzebra> add more trains? :) 19:11:47 <PublicServer> <V666> I doubt that any of us wants to play this any further 19:11:58 <PublicServer> <greenzebra> yeah, seems so 19:13:12 <avdg> just end it 19:15:41 <PublicServer> <V666> observe and seek jams :p I will prepare archive entry 19:15:41 *** avdg has quit IRC 19:16:23 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 19:18:03 <PublicServer> <V666> and you can discuss what should I put as the game screen :p I suppose coal/wood would be appropriate 19:18:30 <PublicServer> <uliko> I guess so 19:18:53 <PublicServer> <uliko> Food looks good but not busy enough 19:19:16 <PublicServer> <uliko> And 100 bridges isn't the most exciting picture ;) 19:19:18 <PublicServer> <V666> food has imo nothing to do with this game :) coal/wood was the most issues 19:19:40 <PublicServer> <V666> 100 bridges is just my common style :p 19:19:44 <PublicServer> <V666> nothing to screen there 19:20:06 <PublicServer> <uliko> Coal drop or MSH D4 then, that's where the focus has been all game 19:20:42 <TheRisen> !password 19:20:42 <PublicServer> TheRisen: confer 19:20:55 <PublicServer> *** TheRisen joined the game 19:21:14 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 19:21:26 <PublicServer> <uliko> Check the western most bridge on the north entry to coal/wood drop 19:21:36 <PublicServer> <uliko> Graphical glitches for everyone or just me? 19:22:27 *** avdg has quit IRC 19:22:58 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 19:23:34 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> what is with that bridge? 19:24:20 <PublicServer> <uliko> Graphical glitches every time a train goes over/under(on the bridges) it 19:24:57 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00033A2D: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00033A2D.png 19:25:20 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> seems fine to me 19:27:48 *** avdg has quit IRC 19:28:04 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 19:31:02 *** avdg has quit IRC 19:32:10 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 19:33:52 <Sylf_mobile> i do see the glitch 19:34:17 <V453000> opengfx/windoze? 19:34:35 <V453000> or ... original_windows_gfx? :p to be correct 19:35:32 <PublicServer> <uliko> opengfx/win7 19:35:32 *** avdg has quit IRC 19:35:37 <Sylf_mobile> ya, opengfx on lose7 19:36:08 <PublicServer> *** V666 has left the game (leaving) 19:36:22 <V453000> !password 19:36:22 <PublicServer> V453000: blonds 19:36:34 <PublicServer> *** V666 joined the game 19:36:45 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 19:36:55 <PublicServer> <V666> which bridge? 19:37:18 <PublicServer> *** uliko has joined company #1 19:37:24 <PublicServer> <V666> btw they have so much newGRFs on them that a diff between opengfx and original gfx would be weird 19:37:48 <PublicServer> <uliko> Marked it with "Graphical glitches" sign 19:38:14 <PublicServer> <V666> ooh bridges above each other :) 19:38:20 <PublicServer> *** V666 has left the game (leaving) 19:38:24 <PublicServer> <uliko> Indeed 19:38:45 <PublicServer> *** V666 joined the game 19:38:58 <PublicServer> <V666> that is normal behaviour I think :) 19:39:14 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ joined the game 19:39:15 <PublicServer> <uliko> Ok 19:39:18 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> okay i see them now too 19:39:25 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> hello 19:39:31 <PublicServer> <uliko> Hello 19:39:41 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> just make bridges transparent and all glitches ar gone ;-) 19:39:43 <V453000> hi beer :) 19:39:46 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> hey 19:39:52 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> hello V. :) 19:39:57 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003682F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003682F.png 19:40:14 <PublicServer> <V666> please do some checking so we can archvie thiz :p 19:40:30 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> archive? 19:40:36 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> this game is endless! :) 19:40:42 <PublicServer> <uliko> Haha 19:40:58 <PublicServer> <V666> well nobody plays it anymore so I guess it is endless :p 19:41:20 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> cause all big things are fixed 19:41:26 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> about 1/4 of primaries is unconnected 19:41:26 *** avdg has quit IRC 19:41:44 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> cause they tend to close down and be rebuilt 19:41:51 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> about 1/3 of connected has rating<60% 19:41:51 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 19:41:55 <PublicServer> <V666> well if you feel like playing it any further, I am not an obstacle :p 19:42:16 *** perk11 has quit IRC 19:42:47 <Sylf_mobile> not enough trains to keep them > 60% 19:42:49 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> V666: oh, that's you! 19:42:55 <PublicServer> <V666> :D 19:42:57 <PublicServer> <V666> oh 19:43:03 <PublicServer> <V666> who else would call you beer :p 19:43:03 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> :D 19:43:05 <PublicServer> *** V666 has changed his/her name to V453000 19:43:06 *** Giant has joined #openttdcoop 19:43:10 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> you called me beer from IRC :) 19:43:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh :D 19:43:21 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> :D 19:43:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> sneaky 19:43:29 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 19:43:31 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> :) @ !wtf? 19:43:38 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> it has been that way for ~300 years 19:43:43 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> nobody cared to fix it :) 19:44:05 <PublicServer> <uliko> Given the amount of traffic that part gets there isn't a whole lot of need 19:44:07 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> no need to 19:44:16 <V453000> I havent seen any jams :) 19:44:31 <Mks> !date 19:44:32 <PublicServer> Mks: 15 Nov 2622 19:44:32 <Mks> oo 19:44:33 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> yeah 19:44:39 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> no jams is a good time to archive 19:44:42 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ has left the game (connection lost) 19:45:01 <Mks> !password 19:45:01 <PublicServer> Mks: coerce 19:45:28 <PublicServer> *** Mks joined the game 19:45:46 <Mks> ohh still this game 19:45:53 <Mks> thought it was finished a few days ago 19:46:01 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> but on the way to be finished 19:46:14 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> nobody wants to play it anymore 19:46:24 <PublicServer> <Mks> isn' 19:46:38 <PublicServer> <Mks> isn't notbody wants a play a good inditaction to make a new one? 19:46:44 <V453000> @stage Finalizing 19:46:44 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #193 (r20801) | STAGE: Finalizing | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Help testing! http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2010/09/23/testing-fs-3637-a-game-inviting-competition/" 19:46:48 <V453000> lets make it formally official :p 19:46:51 *** avdg has quit IRC 19:47:51 <PublicServer> <Mks> slow locos in this game but I do like the Inermodal Container Flat 19:48:27 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 19:48:29 <V453000> the intermodals are totally awsom 19:48:36 <PublicServer> <Mks> yeah 19:48:41 <V453000> I quite like all of the US set wagons and locomotives 19:48:42 <PublicServer> <Mks> what rail set is that? 19:48:47 <V453000> US train set 19:48:55 <PublicServer> <Mks> ohhh NARS? 19:49:00 <V453000> US train set 19:49:02 <V453000> ffs :P 19:49:10 <PublicServer> <Mks> gah whats the diffrence :P 19:49:13 <PublicServer> <Mks> there are two? 19:49:14 <V453000> huge 19:49:18 <Sylf_mobile> i like how quickly those cargos load and unload 19:49:20 <V453000> US train set isnt on banans :p 19:49:23 <PublicServer> *** Mks has joined company #1 19:49:49 <PublicServer> <Mks> ahhh 19:49:51 <PublicServer> <Mks> old newgrf? 19:50:00 <V453000> quite 19:50:07 <PublicServer> <Mks> damn lots of locos 19:50:34 <V453000> there is also the tropic set 19:50:38 <V453000> you know that one :p 19:50:46 <PublicServer> <Mks> ahhhh 19:51:00 <PublicServer> <Mks> ahh yes I see now 19:51:00 *** avdg has quit IRC 19:51:31 <V453000> SmatZ: end? 19:52:02 <PublicServer> <Mks> mm yeah us train set looks nice should be on bananas 19:52:03 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 19:52:55 <V453000> tell author :p 19:53:42 <SmatZ> it's combuster's plan,, right? 19:53:49 <SmatZ> we should wait for his word :) 19:53:59 <SmatZ> @seen [com]buster 19:53:59 <Webster> SmatZ: (seen [<channel>] <nick>) -- Returns the last time <nick> was seen and what <nick> was last seen saying. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. 19:54:15 <SmatZ> silly Webster 19:54:25 <SmatZ> @seen \[com\]buster 19:54:25 <Webster> SmatZ: (seen [<channel>] <nick>) -- Returns the last time <nick> was seen and what <nick> was last seen saying. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. 19:54:28 <SmatZ> boo 19:54:56 <TheRisen> !seen [com]buster 19:54:57 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00000569: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00000569.png 19:55:02 <TheRisen> :) 19:55:08 <V453000> combuster deserted a while back :) 19:55:13 <V453000> @seen *buster 19:55:13 <Webster> V453000: *buster could be [com]buster (1 week, 0 days, 22 hours, 52 minutes, and 27 seconds ago), [alt]buster (1 week, 0 days, 23 hours, 6 minutes, and 33 seconds ago), combuster (2 weeks, 3 days, 22 hours, 30 minutes, and 50 seconds ago), NukeBuster (18 weeks, 4 days, 8 hours, 45 minutes, and 55 seconds ago), [sleep]buster (1 year, 1 week, 5 days, 18 hours, 40 minutes, and 48 seconds (1 more message) 19:55:33 <PublicServer> <uliko> One week :o 19:56:04 <Mks> then you can't wait for him 19:56:08 <V453000> I guess 19:57:17 <V453000> SmatZ: agreed? 19:57:52 <SmatZ> V453000: if you want to start a new game, I am not stopping you :) 19:58:06 <V453000> well I think this game is dead already 19:58:07 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> yesyesyesyesyes 19:58:12 <V453000> not much action in the last 1 week 19:58:14 <V453000> maybe more 19:58:15 <SmatZ> true 19:58:48 <V453000> !save 19:58:48 *** avdg has quit IRC 19:58:49 <PublicServer> Saving game... 19:58:49 <SmatZ> !save psg193_pre_archive 19:58:50 <PublicServer> Saving game... 19:58:52 <SmatZ> :) 19:58:59 <V453000> !transfer 193 game.sav 19:59:04 <PublicServer> V453000: PublicServerGame_193_Final.sav 19:59:04 <PublicServer> V453000: Transfer done. (/home/openttd/svn-publicserver/autopilot/save/game.sav->http://www.openttdcoop.org//files/PublicServer_archive/PublicServerGame_193_Final.sav) 19:59:11 <TheRisen> imho the problem is that most of the traffic concentrates on the east 19:59:30 <SmatZ> yeah, coal + wood drop are heavily used 19:59:31 <V453000> Ammler / ^Spike^ : want to update? 19:59:36 <V453000> or anyone else? :p 19:59:38 <TheRisen> wood/coal would need some serious enlargement 19:59:38 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 19:59:46 <V453000> well we can update anytime later :) 19:59:48 <TheRisen> and nobody dares to do this 19:59:50 <PublicServer> <uliko> There are more wood trains than wheat/livestock combined :) 20:00:06 <TheRisen> forced on only 4 lanes 20:00:07 <V453000> arctic 20:00:13 <TheRisen> and there could be even more 20:00:16 <^Spike^> V what you pay me? ;) 20:00:20 <SmatZ> no serious changes since r20801 20:00:20 <V453000> give it some snow and you have tons of wood 20:00:48 <SmatZ> yeah :( 20:02:28 <PublicServer> *** TheRisen has left the game (leaving) 20:02:39 <^Spike^> and V453000 i follow SmatZ's advice unless someone else disagrees :) 20:03:35 <SmatZ> what did I advice?:) 20:03:35 *** avdg has quit IRC 20:04:15 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 20:04:20 <V453000> :) 20:06:26 *** avdg has quit IRC 20:06:53 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 20:06:55 <V453000> good 20:06:59 <V453000> then we are ready to go 20:07:05 <PublicServer> *** Mks has left the game (leaving) 20:07:16 <^Spike^> V453000 20:07:16 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 20:07:22 <^Spike^> you can do content update 20:07:26 <^Spike^> gamenr and restart etc 20:07:34 <V453000> restart? 20:07:36 <V453000> for logs? 20:07:52 <^Spike^> mhm 20:07:57 <^Spike^> fast learner.. ;) 20:08:04 <V453000> fine 20:08:04 <V453000> !content 20:08:05 <PublicServer> V453000: Connection established 20:08:05 <PublicServer> V453000: Downloading 0 file(s) (0 bytes) 20:08:05 <PublicServer> V453000: (you need to !restart to have the new content loaded) 20:08:08 *** V453000 has left #openttdcoop 20:08:08 *** V453000 has joined #openttdcoop 20:08:08 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o V453000 20:08:11 <V453000> !content 20:08:14 <PublicServer> V453000: Expect timeout triggered! 20:08:14 <PublicServer> V453000: Downloading 9 file(s) (4650625 bytes) 20:08:14 <PublicServer> V453000: (you need to !restart to have the new content loaded) 20:08:17 <V453000> haha 20:08:42 <V453000> !restart 20:08:42 <PublicServer> V453000: Restart scheduled, will be initiated in next minute! 20:08:49 <V453000> @setpsg 194 20:08:49 <Webster> use !gamenr 20:08:51 <V453000> @stage MM 20:08:52 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #193 (r20801) | STAGE: MM | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Help testing! http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2010/09/23/testing-fs-3637-a-game-inviting-competition/" 20:08:54 *** GecK has joined #openttdcoop 20:08:54 <GecK> hi 20:08:57 <V453000> !gamenr 194 20:08:57 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has set gamenr to 194 (next !restart) 20:09:02 <PublicServer> Scheduled quit for automated maintenance... will be back shortely 20:09:03 <PublicServer> Thank you for playing r20801. 20:09:03 <V453000> oh :D 20:09:06 <PublicServer> Server has exited 20:09:07 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 20:09:08 <V453000> shit :) 20:09:13 <V453000> lets see 20:09:16 <SmatZ> D: 20:09:24 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 20:09:24 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 20:09:25 <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)' 20:09:25 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 20:09:25 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #193 (r20801) | STAGE: MM | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Help testing! http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2010/09/23/testing-fs-3637-a-game-inviting-competition/" 20:09:33 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00020502: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00020502.png 20:09:54 <V453000> great :D 20:10:00 <V453000> !gamenr 194 20:10:00 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has set gamenr to 194 (next !restart) 20:10:02 <V453000> once more 20:10:03 <V453000> !restart 20:10:04 <PublicServer> V453000: Restart scheduled, will be initiated in next minute! 20:10:21 <Ammler> you really think, it works, if you do it a second time? 20:10:25 <Ammler> :-P 20:11:01 <PublicServer> Scheduled quit for automated maintenance... will be back shortely 20:11:01 <PublicServer> Thank you for playing r20801. 20:11:04 <uliko_> It will definitely work the third time as the saying goes 20:11:14 <PublicServer> Server has exited 20:11:15 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 20:11:15 *** avdg has quit IRC 20:11:45 <V453000> Ammler: no I just thought I did !gamenr too late 20:11:48 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 20:11:48 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 20:11:48 <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)' 20:11:49 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00020502: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00020502.png 20:11:49 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 20:11:49 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #193 (r20801) | STAGE: MM | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Help testing! http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2010/09/23/testing-fs-3637-a-game-inviting-competition/" 20:11:54 <dihedral> :-P 20:11:59 <dihedral> hihihi 20:12:00 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 20:12:05 <Mks> bad server 20:12:07 <V453000> so I guess now we are ready :) 20:12:13 <^Spike^> !gamenr 20:12:18 <PublicServer> ^Spike^: This is game number: 194 20:12:28 <^Spike^> Ammler shouldn't it change the topic aswell? :) 20:12:30 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players) 20:12:35 <dihedral> @topic change 2 s/193/194/ 20:12:35 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #194 (r20801) | STAGE: MM | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Help testing! http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2010/09/23/testing-fs-3637-a-game-inviting-competition/" 20:12:42 <dihedral> :-P 20:12:43 <Ammler> yes, it should :-) 20:12:50 <V453000> !password for me maybe? 20:12:50 <PublicServer> V453000: sludge 20:12:54 <dihedral> !revision 20:12:55 <PublicServer> dihedral: Game version is r20801 20:13:00 <V453000> wee 20:13:01 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 20:13:02 <V453000> :) 20:13:07 <dihedral> you are running around with 20801? 20:13:13 <Sylf_mobile> DB set, eh 20:13:21 <dihedral> map 20:13:21 <dihedral> map 20:13:22 <V453000> !auto 20:13:22 <dihedral> map 20:13:22 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has enabled autopause mode. 20:13:23 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 20:13:27 <dihedral> map 20:13:31 <dihedral> :-D 20:13:36 <V453000> whee :p 20:13:40 <V453000> sending asap 20:13:55 <dihedral> i shall try to simplify your process with the next bot ;-) 20:13:57 <Mks> what test server are you talking about Dihedral? 20:14:15 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 20:14:22 <PublicServer> *** uliko joined the game 20:14:23 <dihedral> Mks, read the blog? :-P 20:14:33 <Ammler> @topic change 1 s/194/195/ s/195/193 20:14:33 <Webster> Ammler: (topic change [<channel>] <number> <regexp>) -- Changes the topic number <number> on <channel> according to the regular expression <regexp>. <number> is the one-based index into the topics; <regexp> is a regular expression of the form s/regexp/replacement/flags. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself. 20:14:39 <Ammler> @topic change 1 s/194/195/ s/195/193/ 20:14:39 <Webster> Ammler: (topic change [<channel>] <number> <regexp>) -- Changes the topic number <number> on <channel> according to the regular expression <regexp>. <number> is the one-based index into the topics; <regexp> is a regular expression of the form s/regexp/replacement/flags. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself. 20:15:01 <dihedral> topic is not 0 based 20:15:04 <PublicServer> *** uliko has left the game (leaving) 20:15:13 <dihedral> and 2 seds in a row does not work 20:15:23 <Ammler> @topic change 1 s/194/195/;s/195/193/ 20:15:23 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #194 (r20801) | STAGE: MM | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Help testing! http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2010/09/23/testing-fs-3637-a-game-inviting-competition/" 20:15:35 <dihedral> ah - that way :-P 20:15:43 <dihedral> still, nr one is the first entry 20:15:44 <dihedral> you want 2 20:15:50 <Ammler> @topic change 2 s/194/195/;s/195/193/ 20:15:50 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #194 (r20801) | STAGE: MM | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Help testing! http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2010/09/23/testing-fs-3637-a-game-inviting-competition/" 20:16:00 <dihedral> eh? 20:16:00 <dihedral> hehe 20:16:02 <dihedral> :-P 20:16:15 *** avdg has quit IRC 20:16:20 <Ammler> hmm, how do I run 2 changes at once? 20:16:26 <Ammler> KenjiE20: ^ 20:16:55 *** HanziQ has joined #openttdcoop 20:16:57 <HanziQ> hoya 20:16:57 <uliko_> What's on the PS right now isn't the next map I hope 20:17:03 <V453000> you say RUN!, get off the PC and run :) 20:17:04 <HanziQ> !password 20:17:04 <PublicServer> HanziQ: sludge 20:17:07 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 20:17:17 <V453000> uliko: why not :) 20:17:19 <PublicServer> *** Intexon joined the game 20:17:28 <HanziQ> !dl win64 20:17:29 <PublicServer> HanziQ: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r20801/openttd-trunk-r20801-windows-win64.zip 20:17:37 <uliko_> Boring, square and all land 20:17:57 <V453000> good :) 20:17:59 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 20:18:01 <PublicServer> *** TheRisen joined the game 20:18:23 <PublicServer> *** HanziQ joined the game 20:18:27 <PublicServer> <HanziQ> neat map 20:18:41 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 20:18:45 <PublicServer> *** uliko joined the game 20:18:50 <Mks> !password 20:18:50 <PublicServer> Mks: sludge 20:18:52 <SmatZ> !screen 20:18:52 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ liked to make screenshot of last action, but nobody was working since. (http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00020502.png) 20:19:25 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> wintfield to sunfingford? 20:19:27 <PublicServer> *** Mks joined the game 20:19:38 *** avdg has quit IRC 20:20:44 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 20:21:47 <PublicServer> *** HanziQ has left the game (leaving) 20:21:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> just make far connections :p 20:21:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> any 20:22:51 <PublicServer> *** greenlion joined the game 20:24:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> you can even increase the distance by cheating the spread 20:25:13 <PublicServer> <greenlion> what is station spread here? 20:25:13 *** avdg has quit IRC 20:25:19 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> 64 20:25:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> max, why lower :p 20:25:28 <PublicServer> <greenlion> hehe 20:25:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> here are no noobs :P 20:25:36 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> no never 20:25:38 *** HanziQ has quit IRC 20:25:52 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 20:26:17 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003449D: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003449D.png 20:27:42 <PublicServer> *** uliko has left the game (leaving) 20:29:22 <V453000> @stage Planning 20:29:23 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #194 (r20801) | STAGE: Planning | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Help testing! http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2010/09/23/testing-fs-3637-a-game-inviting-competition/" 20:29:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> Show me what you can do :P 20:30:04 <V453000> !tweet Public Server Game 194 is in planning! Come blow our minds with your plan! 20:30:06 <PublicServer> V453000: Tweet sent: http://twitter.com/openttdcoop 20:30:06 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> how fast was the engin in last game? 20:30:15 <V453000> 160kmh 20:30:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> 14k HP iitc 20:30:50 *** davis has quit IRC 20:30:56 <PublicServer> <greenlion> why empty engines are needed? 20:31:10 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 20:31:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> just for the sake of having all rail types 20:31:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> no real advantage 20:31:35 <PublicServer> <greenlion> ah 20:31:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> for example monorail makes nice eyecandy oil lines 20:31:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> cant think of any other use :) 20:31:51 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> monorail has a use? 20:32:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> ... 20:34:15 <PublicServer> <Mks> ohh planning alrdy 20:34:21 <PublicServer> *** Mks has joined company #1 20:34:50 <PublicServer> <Mks> forgot to put a sign where plans should be 20:35:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> any 20:36:26 <PublicServer> <Mks> ohh anywhere? 20:36:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> qyute 20:36:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> quite 20:38:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> TheRisen: no real network plan means chaos and that is banned :p 20:38:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> make at least something 20:39:02 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> chill i am not rdy 20:39:04 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> yet 20:39:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> well then dont write such things ;) 20:39:27 <PublicServer> <Mks> haven't there been chaos games? 20:39:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> rare 20:39:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> and shouldnt be :) 20:39:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> definitely not now 20:39:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> maybe sometime else but not now 20:40:00 <PublicServer> <Mks> hehe 20:41:17 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00000991: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00000991.png 20:43:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> btw what do you actually do in the eyecandy game? 20:43:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> every game can be eyecandy based 20:43:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> and copying other plans is, sorry, braindead :p 20:43:45 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> i know ^^ 20:44:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> ._. 20:44:06 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> hehe 20:45:04 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> changed :) 20:45:18 *** Firartix has quit IRC 20:46:06 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> hmm it's no use in choosing trains already when there will be better ones 20:46:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> I guess I will post my plan later so I dont get adopted :p 20:46:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> TheRisen: just load the game and cheat 2100? 20:46:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> OR know train sets :) 20:47:00 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> well 3 months ago i didn't even knew what a trainset is 20:47:12 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> so have some patience with me pls 20:48:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> TL1? 20:48:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> on 512x512? 20:48:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> impossible 20:48:43 <PublicServer> <Mks> no 20:48:45 <PublicServer> <Mks> TL1 20:49:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes thats what I asked 20:49:06 <PublicServer> <Mks> you mean its to low on such a big map? 20:49:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 20:49:12 <PublicServer> <Mks> mm 20:49:14 <PublicServer> <Mks> TL 2 then? 20:49:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> TL3+ 20:49:58 <kuch3n> What is a Trainset? 20:50:21 <PublicServer> <Mks> you always complain about me doing long trains now I am making em to short? :) 20:50:29 <planetmaker> a newgrf providing ships maybe? 20:50:59 <planetmaker> I might be wrong,though 20:51:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> Mks: this isnt stable 20:51:08 <PublicServer> <greenlion> Mks: isn't it bad that factory and steel mill in opposite corners? may be swap factory with something? 20:51:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> with TL1 you can get 5000 trains no problem on openttdcoop 20:51:28 <PublicServer> <Mks> true 20:51:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> and you just cant do that ;) 20:51:30 <PublicServer> <Mks> gah 20:51:36 <PublicServer> <Mks> tl 3 then 20:51:51 <planetmaker> :-) 1.5k is about max what most people can handle. On small maps 20:51:52 <PublicServer> <Mks> well its the whole point of having them in oposite corners 20:52:06 <PublicServer> <Mks> then you can balance trains to go both ways as well 20:52:08 <PublicServer> <greenlion> ok then :) 20:52:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> btw this is almost identical plan to the current PZ game and psg 155 (?) 20:52:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 20:52:33 <PublicServer> <Mks> my plan? 20:52:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 20:52:37 <planetmaker> would that matter, V453000 ? 20:52:39 <PublicServer> <Mks> :( 20:52:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> pm: ofc not 20:52:50 <planetmaker> :-) 20:52:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> it is just ... weird :) 20:53:04 <planetmaker> :-) 20:53:22 <planetmaker> there's a limited amount of plans when you want to keep it simple 20:53:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> and from the experience on PZ we can safely say that LL LL RR RR with full/empty lines are a total pain in the ass to build hubs on 20:53:36 <PublicServer> <Mks> hehe 20:53:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> so I would discourage from doing that :p 20:53:52 <PublicServer> <Mks> well it will be needed to be that many with tl3 20:54:22 <PublicServer> <Mks> ok 20:54:28 <PublicServer> <Mks> I'll remake the plan then 20:54:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> im just giving advices 20:54:43 <PublicServer> <Mks> well I do have another idea 20:54:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 20:54:57 <PublicServer> <Mks> its a bit insane thought 20:55:23 <PublicServer> <Mks> can I keep TL 3 then? 20:55:31 <PublicServer> <Mks> or mm maye even make it Tl2? 20:56:17 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00004FA2: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00004FA2.png 20:56:27 <^Spike^> i would gp for tl1 ;) 20:56:36 <^Spike^> go* 20:56:46 <PublicServer> <Mks> V sas the map is to big 20:58:06 <^Spike^> can't see that on my phone ;) 20:58:14 <V453000> 512x512 20:58:27 <V453000> thats even too much for TL2 21:00:09 <PublicServer> <Mks> plan is done 21:00:23 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> btw v you can post yours too, i have an idea 21:00:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> nah :) 21:00:36 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> which does not use an adoption :) 21:00:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> but well :p 21:00:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> why not 21:01:14 <PublicServer> <Mks> right need to choice loco 21:01:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> BR182 21:01:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> almost certain with DB set 21:01:44 <PublicServer> <Mks> cause its me? 21:01:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> ? 21:02:25 <^Spike^> V does train eisen matter as long as it isn't tl63 ;) 21:02:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> wah? :D 21:03:14 <^Spike^> eisen.... sigh..... word completion... even more sigh 21:03:37 <^Spike^> eisen should be size 21:06:39 <^Spike^> sometimes android word completion sucks... :) 21:07:56 <PublicServer> <Mks> how will you be sure about all stations getting the same cargo? 21:08:07 <PublicServer> <Mks> I mean farms can produce diffrent amount 21:08:40 <PublicServer> <Mks> or you mean all trains go first transfer 1 then load then transfer 2? 21:09:01 <planetmaker> make intelligent orders 21:09:18 <planetmaker> conditionals can work wonders in those cases 21:09:29 <PublicServer> <Mks> well 21:09:30 <PublicServer> <greenlion> I thought V's plan would be no-orders SRNW :) 21:09:32 <PublicServer> <Mks> you can't unload half 21:09:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> simply just make "load at farm A", transfer at C, "load at farm A, unload at B 21:09:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> greenlion: not really 21:09:58 <PublicServer> <Mks> ahh like I thought 21:10:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> you need orders to transfer 21:11:17 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00000D96: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00000D96.png 21:12:07 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> sounds quite nice 21:12:35 *** perk11 has quit IRC 21:13:30 <PublicServer> <greenlion> Mks: nice mirrored swastika, btw :) 21:13:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh :D 21:13:54 <PublicServer> <Mks> wasn't really the intention 21:13:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> hmm 4way hub? 21:14:08 <PublicServer> <Mks> yeah 21:14:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> both of you actually :( 21:14:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> btw check the tunnels :p 21:14:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> they look nice 21:15:06 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> uhh yeah 21:15:14 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> very beautiful 21:15:21 <Sylf_mobile> 3 lane 4 way hub in this terrain ... *shudder* 21:15:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> as Sylf notes :) 21:15:48 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> my 2nd name is leveler 21:15:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> 4way hubs are usually a fail from the very idea :) 21:16:44 <PublicServer> <Mks> so 21:16:45 <PublicServer> <Mks> no hub 21:16:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 21:16:52 <PublicServer> <Mks> 2 seprate MLs 21:18:51 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 21:21:04 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> hehe i own some of these trains :-) 21:21:25 *** davis has joined #openttdcoop 21:22:59 <PublicServer> <Mks> V: so you mean an inner ML ring that also have transfer to itself? 21:23:00 <PublicServer> <greenlion> you can make trains with gaps with empty engine :) max speed is 19 km/h though :) 21:23:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> Mks? 21:23:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> main scheme is the larger one 21:23:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> the inner circle is just how will the transfering look 21:23:59 <PublicServer> <Mks> ahh so there will be SLHs at the inner ring? 21:24:09 <PublicServer> <Mks> and then trains go to transfer stations? 21:24:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> kind of I suppose 21:24:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> not real SLHs but something like that 21:24:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> maybe even not rly 21:24:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> depends how far we go :p 21:26:17 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00006B84: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00006B84.png 21:27:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> whee the scheme feeder even fits into the whole :d 21:27:30 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> lol 21:27:32 <PublicServer> <Mks> hehe 21:27:54 <PublicServer> <Mks> so everything conneted at the corners of the "inner ML"? 21:27:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> quite 21:28:15 <PublicServer> <Mks> your plan is way more complexe then mine 21:28:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> in fact it is way simplier to manage 21:28:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> it is only more thought-through ;) 21:29:06 *** Giant has quit IRC 21:29:16 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> did u just invent it? 21:29:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes, why? 21:30:03 <PublicServer> <Mks> its intressting you suggest transfer thought :) 21:30:09 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> well it could be possible that u had something like that already in mind 21:30:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> Mks: this isnt stable 21:30:31 <PublicServer> <Mks> I know 21:30:34 <PublicServer> <Mks> still 21:30:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> TheRisen: I had totally no idea :D 21:30:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> Mks: and under given circumstances, it is better to have them :) 21:30:57 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> that makes it even more impressive 21:31:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) thanks 21:31:30 <PublicServer> <Mks> its only the outer ML that will be really balanced thought? 21:31:32 *** thgergo has quit IRC 21:31:41 <PublicServer> <Mks> the "inner ring" won't be quite as balanced 21:31:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> still fine 21:31:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> due to the "bothway" orders 21:32:04 <PublicServer> <Mks> true 21:32:30 <PublicServer> <Mks> but I mean might be more farms in one area of the map 21:32:31 <PublicServer> <Mks> so 21:32:40 <PublicServer> <Mks> will vary some at the inner ML 21:32:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes sure 21:32:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> but that isnt an issue really 21:33:12 <PublicServer> <V453000> the feeders are important but not in terms of balance 21:33:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> the ML is more important 21:33:33 <PublicServer> <greenlion> V, your ML ring is two-way? 21:33:47 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> no 21:35:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> 1way 21:35:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> that 21:35:11 <PublicServer> <greenlion> it's written that it is LLL_RRR. one way should be like LLL ? 21:35:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> ist the point ;) 21:35:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh thanks giraffe 21:35:23 <PublicServer> <greenlion> welcome 21:35:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> I tend to do that mistake all the time :) 21:35:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> I just think "3 lines", not 3 each :) 21:37:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> hmf, my plan is a sign-spam again :P 21:37:15 <PublicServer> <Mks> wonder if 3 line ML will be enouhg 21:37:18 <PublicServer> <Mks> hehe 21:37:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> cant get rid of that :( 21:37:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> Mks: better less lines than more 21:37:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> expanding is fun 21:37:34 <PublicServer> <Mks> I make to few signs instead 21:37:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> having overkill isnt ;) 21:38:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> well I tend to introduce something we havent played yet so I usuallly need the signs ;) 21:38:16 <PublicServer> <Mks> true 21:38:38 <PublicServer> <Mks> or look at the risen even less signs then me :P 21:39:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> he doesnt really need more I think :) 21:39:11 *** Gumpie has quit IRC 21:39:47 <PublicServer> <Mks> well I Guess many signs is good in a way to cause then you don't need to explain everything 21:40:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> it is important to write down how it has to work 21:40:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> to prevent future disagreements ;) 21:40:55 <PublicServer> <Mks> I don't really think I need more signs thought 21:41:17 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> what is TF? 21:41:17 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000038C: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000038C.png 21:41:24 <V453000> @tf 21:41:24 <Webster> tf: Terraform, see also: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Terraforming 21:41:34 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> thx 21:41:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> yw 21:44:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> especially sign-spammy are FIRS games 21:45:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> when you need all the industries ... duh :) 21:45:18 <PublicServer> <Mks> ouch 21:45:28 <PublicServer> <Mks> FIRS on PS sounds complicated 21:45:30 <PublicServer> <Mks> sign wise 21:45:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> see my plan in psg 188 :) was mad 21:45:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> well 178 too :) 21:46:00 <PublicServer> *** TheRisen has left the game (leaving) 21:46:04 <hylje> YOU MAD? 21:46:10 <PublicServer> <Mks> still quite nice to play FIRS here thought cause its quite diffrent 21:46:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> hylje: no :) the plan was 21:46:27 <PublicServer> <Mks> so like 2 days until Voteing I guess? 21:46:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> Mks: FIRS is definitely nice 21:46:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> Mks: most likely 21:46:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> if we have enough plans, maybe tomorrow evening we migh start voting 21:46:54 <Mks> only transporting a few goods make tons of connections in the end 21:46:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> if not, later ;) 21:47:03 <Mks> on FIRS 21:47:09 <V453000> indeed 21:47:15 <V453000> and the latest versions have even more cargoes 21:47:21 <Mks> I did only coal+sand really 21:47:32 <planetmaker> :-) 21:47:35 <Mks> well iron ore scrap metal also but kinda of same 21:47:40 <Mks> still those 4 21:47:44 <planetmaker> The interesting part about FIRS IMHO is the interlinked cargo chains 21:47:51 <Mks> yeah 21:47:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> pm: definitely :) 21:47:58 <planetmaker> starting with one it gives incentive to do other cargos, too :-) 21:48:00 <Sylf_mobile> i do want to play a firs game some day 21:48:02 <Mks> can almost be to much sometimes thought 21:48:23 <Mks> if you want to connect all diffrent types 21:48:24 <V453000> Mks: not really 21:48:28 <V453000> you dont get everything at onece 21:48:33 <V453000> you start with one and add 21:48:46 <planetmaker> Mks: yes, maybe. BUT: if you come up with a good sub-set of industries: PLease do. Propose that subset as new economy for FIRS 21:48:47 <V453000> and since they are all connected, you end up connecting all of them 21:49:01 <V453000> also a good point ^_^ 21:49:05 <Sylf_mobile> i didn't see any cars/trains that can carry this one cargo in firs nightly 21:49:06 <planetmaker> Economies are planned for. But they need thought and attention 21:49:14 <V453000> as pm says :) 21:49:19 <Mks> ohh so like an economy limits the diffrent types of industries? 21:49:21 <planetmaker> so... proposals in that area: hightly welcome 21:49:25 <planetmaker> yes 21:49:28 <Mks> ahhh 21:49:35 <planetmaker> and changes cargo prices 21:49:43 *** Mucht has joined #openttdcoop 21:49:43 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Mucht 21:49:53 <Mks> well my not make a Coal economy for example 21:49:58 <V453000> to be entirel honest, I would wait with economies until I see all of the cargoes / industries in total :) 21:50:02 <Mks> only things that somehow are connected to Coal will be there 21:50:17 <planetmaker> V453000: yes, but it's already worth to think about 21:50:22 <V453000> coal, coal, coal, and coal? :P Mks 21:50:24 <Mks> so can have diffrent types like that Coal, Grain, Sand, whatever 21:50:26 <Mks> no no 21:50:26 <V453000> pm: sure :) 21:50:37 <Mks> coal leads to power plants + steel mills 21:50:42 <Mks> that leeds to oil 21:50:46 <Mks> and iron ore and so on 21:50:48 <Mks> but 21:50:54 <planetmaker> and if you guys think about it already while playing the faster you might already have some idea when the economy might become a coding issue 21:50:58 <planetmaker> which will not be before 0.6 21:50:59 <Mks> limit its to those that somehow are connected to a certain type 21:51:06 <planetmaker> there's no power plant :-P 21:51:12 <planetmaker> in FIRS 21:51:15 <Mks> well 21:51:18 <Mks> was in 0.3? 21:51:22 <planetmaker> yes 21:51:27 <planetmaker> well maybe 0.2 21:51:31 <planetmaker> 0.3 IIRC not anymore 21:51:37 <Mks> we played 0.3 21:51:41 <Mks> but ok no power plant 21:51:44 <Mks> but steel mill then 21:51:47 <Mks> that leads to iron ore 21:51:50 <Mks> and scrap metal 21:51:56 <Mks> and leeds to engineering supplies 21:52:00 <Mks> and so on 21:52:19 <planetmaker> yes 21:52:22 <Mks> but like no milk for in a coal ecenomy 21:52:26 <Mks> economy 21:52:33 <planetmaker> I know :-) 21:52:37 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 21:52:48 <planetmaker> you could anyway separate firs quite easily in mining and in agriculture 21:53:19 <V453000> I expect those two as the first 2 economies :p 21:53:53 <planetmaker> possibly 21:54:12 <V453000> aaanyway, I am off :p 21:54:14 <V453000> gnight 21:54:16 *** smoovi has quit IRC 21:56:07 <olleman> oh planning stage 21:56:08 <olleman> lovely 21:56:17 <TheRisen> gn8 guys 21:56:17 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000A105: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000A105.png 21:56:21 <PublicServer> *** Mks has left the game (leaving) 21:56:22 *** TheRisen has quit IRC 22:03:41 *** Fuco has quit IRC 22:09:13 <PublicServer> *** greenlion has left the game (leaving) 22:09:13 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 22:18:15 <PublicServer> *** Intexon has left the game (leaving) 22:22:09 *** Intexon has quit IRC 22:27:49 <olleman> !password 22:27:49 <PublicServer> olleman: august 22:28:02 <PublicServer> *** olleman joined the game 22:30:01 <PublicServer> *** olleman has left the game (connection lost) 22:33:05 *** ODM has quit IRC 22:48:36 *** pugi has quit IRC 22:56:30 *** ryx has joined #openttdcoop 23:00:42 *** ^Spike^ has quit IRC 23:08:40 *** Progman has quit IRC 23:54:48 <PublicServer> *** Sylf joined the game 23:55:17 *** dvs_ has joined #openttdcoop 23:55:36 *** dvs_ is now known as davis_ 23:56:10 *** davis has quit IRC 23:56:44 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 23:58:39 *** davis_ is now known as davis