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BUt that would be with any plan for this small map. 10:17:19 <V453000> since there is little hubs in my plan, the space should be sufficient 10:17:26 <V453000> (BBHs) 10:17:26 <Mazur> *nod* 10:48:46 *** smoovi has joined #openttdcoop 10:53:13 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 10:53:16 <PublicServer> *** Spike joined the game 11:03:13 *** HanziQ has joined #openttdcoop 11:03:14 <HanziQ> hoy 11:03:17 <HanziQ> !dl win64 11:03:17 <PublicServer> HanziQ: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r21089/openttd-trunk-r21089-windows-win64.zip 11:04:00 <HanziQ> !password 11:04:01 <PublicServer> HanziQ: jovial 11:04:09 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 11:04:09 <PublicServer> *** Yoda joined the game 11:05:02 <PublicServer> *** Yoda has left the game (leaving) 11:05:07 *** HanziQ has quit IRC 11:05:18 *** Ammler has quit IRC 11:05:43 *** Ammler has joined #openttdcoop 11:05:43 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Ammler 11:17:45 *** dlr365 has quit IRC 11:23:28 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 11:23:28 <PublicServer> *** tneo has left the game (connection lost) 11:23:31 <PublicServer> *** tneo joined the game 11:23:36 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 11:23:39 <PublicServer> *** tneo joined the game 11:24:50 <PublicServer> *** tneo has left the game (leaving) 11:34:47 *** sharpy has joined #openttdcoop 11:34:55 <sharpy> !password 11:34:55 <PublicServer> sharpy: jovial 11:35:14 <sharpy> !dl win64 11:35:14 <PublicServer> sharpy: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r21089/openttd-trunk-r21089-windows-win64.zip 11:36:33 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 11:36:35 <PublicServer> *** sharpy joined the game 11:36:53 <V453000> hi :) 11:38:03 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 11:38:03 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 11:38:13 <PublicServer> <sharpy> hey 11:38:16 <PublicServer> <sharpy> been a while :) 11:38:48 <V453000> arr 11:39:12 <PublicServer> <sharpy> its what uni does to you lol 11:40:19 <V453000> I am on uni too :P 11:42:44 <PublicServer> *** sharpy has left the game (connection lost) 11:46:12 *** sharpy has quit IRC 11:50:28 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 11:51:50 *** bmarky has joined #openttdcoop 11:51:59 <bmarky> !password 11:51:59 <PublicServer> bmarky: curses 11:52:12 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 11:52:14 <PublicServer> *** bmarky joined the game 11:52:36 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 11:52:36 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 11:52:38 <PublicServer> *** glevans2 joined the game 11:52:42 <PublicServer> *** bmarky has joined spectators 11:52:42 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 11:53:06 *** bmarky has left #openttdcoop 11:55:38 <PublicServer> *** glevans2 has left the game (leaving) 11:56:56 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 11:56:59 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 11:57:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> hy 11:57:29 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00018BF4: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00018BF4.png 11:57:31 <glevans2> hi V453000 11:57:39 <V453000> hi hi 11:58:46 <glevans2> still only 2 plans... :( 11:59:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> so far :) 11:59:59 <PublicServer> <bmarky> hello :) 12:00:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 12:01:39 *** Alendo has joined #openttdcoop 12:04:12 <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (leaving) 12:04:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> come join so our MM makes some $ :p 12:05:02 <PublicServer> *** bmarky has joined company #1 12:05:02 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 12:05:06 <PublicServer> <bmarky> :) 12:05:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 12:05:44 <PublicServer> <bmarky> when do they reset the psg? 12:05:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> yesterday 12:06:14 <PublicServer> <bmarky> that was a quick one 12:08:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> well, nobody was doing anything in days 12:08:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> so I removed the main jams and wrapped it up 12:08:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> no need to stretch it really 12:09:30 <PublicServer> <bmarky> it was really big fun in the beginings, i have had a lot of oportunity to build 12:09:38 *** Alendo_ has joined #openttdcoop 12:09:41 *** Alendo has quit IRC 12:09:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> thats every game :) 12:10:00 <Alendo_> !password 12:10:00 <PublicServer> Alendo_: tinsel 12:10:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> bad thing is when nobody wants to fix stuff or expand 12:10:10 <PublicServer> <bmarky> :) 12:10:20 <PublicServer> <bmarky> i want 12:10:23 <PublicServer> <bmarky> but u know 12:10:46 *** Firartix has joined #openttdcoop 12:11:01 <PublicServer> <bmarky> in a lot of cases its better if i stay out of fixing or expanding things :) 12:11:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> ok :) 12:11:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> I didnt mean you 12:11:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> was talking in general 12:12:01 <PublicServer> <bmarky> (at the temporarly wood drop, i crashed some trains too...) 12:12:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> I crash trains as well 12:12:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> mostly when there is some lag, but well ... :) 12:12:51 <PublicServer> <bmarky> :) 12:13:13 <PublicServer> <bmarky> but maybe in this psg :) 12:13:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 12:13:58 <Alendo_> i cant find the server ip, been a long time since ive been here, anyone care to tell me? 12:14:31 <V453000> !ip 12:14:31 <PublicServer> V453000: ps.openttdcoop.org 12:14:39 <Alendo_> thanks 12:14:40 <V453000> welcome back :p 12:14:48 <Alendo_> :) 12:16:04 <Alendo_> seems i have another newgrf than the host :( 12:17:00 <V453000> !grf 12:17:01 <PublicServer> V453000: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/GRF (Version 8.0) 12:17:06 <V453000> and bananas content 12:17:16 <planetmaker> bananas from the server join lobby also works wonders 12:19:14 <Alendo_> thanks :) 12:20:36 *** Alendo_ has quit IRC 12:20:44 *** Alendo has joined #openttdcoop 12:20:55 <Alendo> !password 12:20:56 <PublicServer> Alendo: weirdo 12:21:08 <PublicServer> *** Eirik joined the game 12:21:09 <glevans2> heh 12:27:29 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00014EE6: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00014EE6.png 12:28:49 *** ODM has quit IRC 12:29:43 <Alendo> whats the status? 12:31:21 <V453000> cant see that ? :) 12:33:28 <Alendo> it says planning 12:33:55 <Alendo> but, i was wondering if the plan is what were going for and if were just waiting for the creator :) 12:37:43 <V453000> @quickstart 12:37:45 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 12:38:02 <V453000> I dont understand what you ask, but this will answer you :) 12:40:28 <XeryusTC> !dl win64 12:40:28 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r21089/openttd-trunk-r21089-windows-win64.zip 12:40:35 <Alendo> ill have a look 12:41:18 <XeryusTC> !password 12:41:18 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: graded 12:41:25 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game 12:41:37 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, the japanese have snow :D 12:41:47 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but not smooth snow :( 12:42:05 <Alendo> ahh yes ofcourse, its been a year or so since ive been here, and ive forgotten a lot it seems :D 12:42:30 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000185F4: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000185F4.png 12:42:48 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> nice map size btw :) 12:45:48 <XeryusTC> !archive 12:45:48 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: http://www.openttdcoop.ORG/wiki/PublicServer:Archive | http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/ProZone:Archive | http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/MemberZone:Archive 12:46:33 <PublicServer> <Eirik> nice plan v453 12:48:07 <V453000> thank you 12:57:30 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000A1EF: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000A1EF.png 13:06:18 *** Fuco has joined #openttdcoop 13:06:22 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Fuco 13:08:58 <glevans2> hey V453000, the archive has all (most) of the final saves from the psg's.... are the staring maps also archived somewhere? 13:09:51 <V453000> maybe, why 13:10:22 <glevans2> I wanted to see the original for PSG 154 13:11:00 <V453000> that is too old I fear 13:11:12 <glevans2> I was afraid of that 13:11:21 <glevans2> thanks anyway 13:11:30 *** valhallasw has joined #openttdcoop 13:11:52 <V453000> yes, 154 is not available 13:12:30 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00017DEF: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00017DEF.png 13:12:45 <planetmaker> glevans2: in principle you could re-create the starting maps by using the same openttd version, retreiving the initial random seed of the savegame and re-creating it 13:13:03 *** Chillosophy has joined #openttdcoop 13:13:11 <planetmaker> the openttd version it was created with is also stored in the savegame 13:13:19 <planetmaker> just type gamelog in the console 13:13:19 <V453000> while setting the correct mountainous, rough, etc settings :) 13:13:30 <planetmaker> V453000: yeah ;-) 13:13:40 <V453000> but that is usually possible to guess 13:13:43 <planetmaker> though... hm... maybe restart 13:14:00 <planetmaker> restart? newgame? Not sure whether there's an easy way 13:14:27 <V453000> hmm 13:14:30 <V453000> no idea :) 13:15:17 <glevans2> I was just looking through the archives, and that particular game never reached it's goal.....thought it might be nice to redo it and try to hit the goal 13:17:42 <V453000> maybe :) 13:18:22 <glevans2> original game revision might not be around anymore either 13:19:38 <V453000> try newer one 13:19:42 <V453000> it should work the same I think 13:19:47 <V453000> well, try :) 13:22:30 <planetmaker> V453000: new revisions are not guaranteed to give the same map even with the same settings. 13:22:37 <planetmaker> Actually chances are good that not ;-) 13:22:45 <V453000> oook :) 13:23:10 <glevans2> I have found that out already... 13:23:16 <planetmaker> map generation involves many random things - and when one thing changes, and e.g. somewhere an additional random call is introduced... everything changes 13:24:02 <planetmaker> or just the placement rules for industries e.g. changed slightly... etc 13:24:33 <planetmaker> somewhen there were free-style map borders. Improved tree generation, selectable water %, ... 13:24:45 <planetmaker> so not from revision to revision. But often enough ;-) 13:32:55 <PublicServer> *** bmarky has left the game (connection lost) 13:36:16 <dutchie> are new people like me welcome? 13:36:31 <V453000> of course, especially dutch 13:37:05 <dutchie> i should establish early that i am not dutch, and the nickname originates from my surname being "holland" 13:37:13 <V453000> oh, nice :) 13:37:21 <V453000> one less dutchy then ^_^ 13:39:28 <planetmaker> dutchie: new people are always welcome. Feel welcome :-) 13:39:46 <PublicServer> <Eirik> does anyone know what i have to download to get the nightly working for OSX? 13:40:13 <planetmaker> hm, what's your IRC nick? 13:40:24 <Alendo> me 13:40:36 <V453000> could you sync those pls :) 13:40:38 <Alendo> or dutchie? 13:40:53 <planetmaker> Eirik 13:41:02 <planetmaker> it helps a lot to sync them ;-) 13:41:22 <Alendo> sync? 13:41:39 <V453000> make both Alendo or both Eirik pls 13:41:40 <planetmaker> same name here and ingame 13:41:42 <V453000> or whatever else :) 13:41:46 <Alendo> ahh yes sorry bouth that : 13:41:56 <PublicServer> *** Eirik has left the game (leaving) 13:42:02 <planetmaker> makes talking much easier. 13:42:04 <Alendo> !pw 13:42:06 <Alendo> !password 13:42:06 <PublicServer> Alendo: feints 13:42:10 <planetmaker> There's also the name console command 13:42:19 <PublicServer> *** Alendo joined the game 13:42:56 <glevans2> on no, he has feinted... 13:43:07 <Alendo> sorry bout that, had a 15hr session on a game with a friend of mine yesterday, didnt get to bed til 7am, always happen when i install ttd for the first time in a long tim 13:43:10 <Alendo> hehe 13:43:49 <dutchie> !password 13:43:50 <PublicServer> dutchie: bailed 13:44:01 <PublicServer> *** dutchie joined the game 13:44:16 <dutchie> woohoo 13:44:18 <glevans2> status 13:44:23 <dutchie> now i just have to work out what's going on 13:44:27 <glevans2> ooops, wrong console 13:44:30 <V453000> @quickstart 13:44:32 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 13:44:35 <V453000> dutchie: this helps 13:46:04 <KenjiE20> @rules does too, now 13:46:06 <Webster> Ruleset - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Ruleset 14:02:57 <Alendo> !ip 14:02:57 <PublicServer> Alendo: ps.openttdcoop.org 14:09:55 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 14:10:02 <V453000> laters 14:29:28 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 14:30:35 *** kei_ has joined #openttdcoop 14:35:16 *** benom has joined #openttdcoop 14:38:54 <PublicServer> *** dutchie has left the game (leaving) 14:51:49 *** theholyduck has joined #openttdcoop 14:53:27 *** Keyboard_Warrior has joined #openttdcoop 14:59:57 *** theholyduck has quit IRC 15:16:29 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has left the game (connection lost) 15:16:29 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 15:28:10 <Sylf> !password 15:28:10 <PublicServer> Sylf: junked 15:28:25 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 15:28:26 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 15:28:26 <PublicServer> *** Sylf joined the game 15:28:38 <PublicServer> <Sylf> 'ello 15:32:24 <PublicServer> <Alendo> hi 15:47:03 *** Mitcian has quit IRC 15:55:27 *** jondisti has joined #openttdcoop 15:59:22 *** leg3nd has joined #openttdcoop 15:59:32 <leg3nd> !dl win 15:59:32 <PublicServer> leg3nd: unknown option "win" 15:59:43 <leg3nd> !help 15:59:43 <PublicServer> leg3nd: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands 16:00:00 <leg3nd> !download 16:00:00 <PublicServer> leg3nd: !download autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|win32|win64|win9x 16:00:00 <PublicServer> leg3nd: http://www.openttd.org/en/download-trunk/r21089 16:00:09 <leg3nd> !download win64 16:00:09 <PublicServer> leg3nd: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r21089/openttd-trunk-r21089-windows-win64.zip 16:04:04 <leg3nd> !password 16:04:04 <PublicServer> leg3nd: motley 16:04:20 <PublicServer> *** leg3nd joined the game 16:05:03 <PublicServer> *** leg3nd has left the game (leaving) 16:06:48 *** kriokamera has joined #openttdcoop 16:06:54 <kriokamera> hi everyone 16:07:15 <PublicServer> *** jond1sti joined the game 16:08:16 <kriokamera> soon i'll get new computer and ability to play here. 16:11:23 <planetmaker> good :-) 16:11:35 <planetmaker> I guess you can even play now 16:11:40 <planetmaker> !rcon info 16:11:40 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Current/maximum clients: 3/255 16:11:40 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Current/maximum companies: 1/ 1 16:11:40 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Current/maximum spectators: 1/10 16:11:45 <planetmaker> !rcon companies 16:11:45 <PublicServer> planetmaker: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Wraham Transport' Year Founded: 1950 Money: 12288430 Loan: 0 Value: 12372137 (T:0, R:0, P:7, S:0) unprotected 16:12:05 <planetmaker> ^ doesn't look like it is too much for any computer 16:12:16 <planetmaker> well. any newer than 10 years 16:12:26 <Sylf> almost any computers can handle the planning stage =) 16:12:50 <kriokamera> my comp is anout 5 years old, and on later stages it lagging much 16:13:18 <kriokamera> planning stage doesn't need my presence =) it's boring without building 16:13:40 <kriokamera> next will have 12 GB RAM >_< 16:14:12 <Sylf> mine is almost 4 years old now 16:14:50 <kriokamera> anyway my is too slow 16:22:21 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 16:24:32 *** kriokamera has quit IRC 16:28:20 *** thgergo has joined #openttdcoop 16:29:44 *** dlr365 has joined #openttdcoop 16:32:03 *** holyduck has joined #openttdcoop 16:38:57 *** Keyboard_Warrior has quit IRC 16:48:32 <dutchie> how long does planning usually last? 16:51:05 *** avdg has quit IRC 16:52:42 <planetmaker> a day or so 16:52:59 <planetmaker> depends on how active people are planning ;-) 16:53:53 *** ZirconiumX has joined #openttdcoop 16:54:02 <ZirconiumX> !password 16:54:02 <PublicServer> ZirconiumX: gilded 16:54:14 *** ZirconiumX has quit IRC 16:54:16 <dutchie> !password 16:54:16 <PublicServer> dutchie: gilded 16:54:18 <PublicServer> *** ZirconiumX joined the game 16:54:24 <PublicServer> *** dutchie joined the game 16:54:26 <PublicServer> <ZirconiumX> hello 16:54:32 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 16:54:43 <^Spike^> zirconiumx stay on irc 16:55:30 <PublicServer> <ZirconiumX> I can't 16:55:34 <^Spike^> you must 16:55:42 <PublicServer> *** ZirconiumX has left the game (leaving) 16:56:54 <PublicServer> <dutchie> so how do the plans actually work? 16:57:08 <^Spike^> ehm... usually it's made clear with the signs 16:57:12 <^Spike^> or you mean how to read them? 16:57:18 <PublicServer> <dutchie> yeah 16:57:34 <^Spike^> ehm... a plan usually is a mini layout of the map and then have key points specified 16:57:40 <^Spike^> and how the network flows over the map 16:57:59 <^Spike^> sometimes closeup shots are made of specific (hard to understand) points 16:59:03 <PublicServer> <dutchie> so theholyduck's plan in the top right corner says there would be a big square of mainlines 16:59:12 <^Spike^> let me join 16:59:29 <PublicServer> *** Spike joined the game 16:59:41 <PublicServer> <Spike> ehm.. very simple plan that says that yes 17:00:11 <PublicServer> <Spike> food drop NE paper oil drop NW wood coal drop SW and town drop SE 17:00:17 <PublicServer> <Spike> very easy plan to read :) 17:00:23 <PublicServer> <dutchie> and all the industries would end up being connected? 17:00:34 <PublicServer> <Spike> ehm what you mean 17:01:13 <PublicServer> <dutchie> would every industry on the map would be connected? 17:01:23 <PublicServer> <Spike> yep by using SLHs 17:01:37 <PublicServer> <Spike> but for the drops it would be just 1 place to drop it all 17:01:55 <PublicServer> <dutchie> so stuff would be picked up from lots of places, but only dropped off in 1 17:02:00 <^Spike^> yep 17:02:15 <uliko> !players 17:02:17 <PublicServer> uliko: Client 71 (Orange) is Alendo, in company 1 (Wraham Transport) 17:02:17 <PublicServer> uliko: Client 79 (Orange) is Sylf, in company 1 (Wraham Transport) 17:02:17 <PublicServer> uliko: Client 86 is jond1sti, a spectator 17:02:18 <PublicServer> uliko: Client 91 is Spike, a spectator 17:02:18 <PublicServer> uliko: Client 90 is dutchie, a spectator 17:02:18 <PublicServer> uliko: Client 95 (Orange) is uliko, in company 1 (Wraham Transport) 17:02:20 <uliko> !password 17:02:20 <PublicServer> uliko: quiets 17:02:35 <PublicServer> *** uliko joined the game 17:06:05 *** Keyboard_Warrior has joined #openttdcoop 17:06:42 <PublicServer> *** dutchie has left the game (leaving) 17:12:14 <PublicServer> *** uliko has left the game (leaving) 17:12:57 *** holyduck has quit IRC 17:15:51 *** Keyboard_Warrior has quit IRC 17:27:34 <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (leaving) 17:40:42 *** theholyduck has joined #openttdcoop 17:41:12 <theholyduck> !password 17:41:12 <PublicServer> theholyduck: falser 17:41:42 <PublicServer> *** theholyduck joined the game 17:42:06 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> oh YES! 17:42:12 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> a chaos game is suggested 17:42:15 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> more or less 17:42:30 * theholyduck huggles XeryusTC 17:42:34 <PublicServer> <Sylf> :p 17:42:40 <hylje> chaos! 17:42:43 <glevans2> haha 17:42:56 <theholyduck> chaos is the most fun game type 17:43:03 <PublicServer> <Sylf> a chaos game without saying "chaos" 17:43:13 <PublicServer> *** theholyduck has left the game (connection lost) 17:44:07 *** bmarky has joined #openttdcoop 17:44:15 <bmarky> !password 17:44:15 <PublicServer> bmarky: muffle 17:44:18 *** Keyboard_Warrior has joined #openttdcoop 17:44:24 <PublicServer> *** bmarky has left the game (desync error) 17:44:27 <PublicServer> *** bmarky joined the game 17:44:38 <Keyboard_Warrior> cant await for a new network card to arive in the mail 17:44:44 <Keyboard_Warrior> having to use my netbooks BROKEN wifi 17:44:46 <Keyboard_Warrior> is damn annoying 17:44:51 <planetmaker> bmarky: where did you get your binary from? 17:45:09 <bmarky> ottd's official page 17:45:18 <planetmaker> and what do you do, that only you desync? 17:45:25 <planetmaker> what others don't do? 17:45:39 <bmarky> one moment :) 17:45:40 <planetmaker> was there anything you did just before the desync? 17:45:53 <bmarky> !password 17:45:53 <PublicServer> bmarky: muffle 17:46:01 <PublicServer> *** bmarky joined the game 17:46:24 <bmarky> it okey now 17:46:34 <bmarky> i haven't used sudo 17:47:00 <planetmaker> eh? 17:47:30 <planetmaker> how or why does openttd desync when you don't use sudo? 17:47:38 <bmarky> dunno 17:47:40 <planetmaker> can you verify? 17:47:48 <bmarky> but its working this way 17:47:51 <planetmaker> and try again w/o sudo and re-produce the desync? 17:48:00 <bmarky> lets find out 17:48:05 <PublicServer> *** bmarky has left the game (connection lost) 17:48:17 <bmarky> maybe should start in debug mode 17:48:33 <planetmaker> try first to reproduce 17:48:43 <PublicServer> *** bmarky has left the game (connection lost) 17:48:44 <PublicServer> *** bmarky joined the game 17:48:48 <bmarky> hah 17:48:56 <XeryusTC> !password 17:48:56 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: muffle 17:49:03 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game 17:49:31 <planetmaker> bmarky: you should NEVER need to use sudo for playing openttd. 17:49:47 <planetmaker> so... any means to desync? 17:49:53 *** smoovi has quit IRC 17:50:57 *** theholyduck has quit IRC 17:51:17 <bmarky> now with -d desync=4 17:51:41 <bmarky> !password 17:51:41 <PublicServer> bmarky: muffle 17:51:53 <PublicServer> *** bmarky has left the game (connection lost) 17:51:55 <PublicServer> *** bmarky joined the game 17:56:11 <bmarky> !password 17:56:11 <PublicServer> bmarky: muffle 17:56:23 <PublicServer> *** bmarky has left the game (desync error) 17:56:25 <PublicServer> *** bmarky joined the game 17:56:35 <planetmaker> ...hm 17:56:49 <planetmaker> bmarky: what OS do you run? 17:56:59 <bmarky> ubuntu 10.10 17:57:31 <Keyboard_Warrior> !password 17:57:31 <PublicServer> Keyboard_Warrior: smalls 17:57:48 <PublicServer> *** theholyduck joined the game 17:57:52 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> hmm 17:57:58 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> should i make a voteboard? 18:00:49 <bmarky> http://pastebin.com/mmB6mmNZ 18:00:57 <PublicServer> *** theholyduck has left the game (connection lost) 18:01:15 <bmarky> check out the Revision text changed to parts 18:02:15 *** theholyduck has joined #openttdcoop 18:03:00 * Sylf votes yes for voting :p 18:07:33 *** withoutnick has joined #openttdcoop 18:08:02 <withoutnick> !download lin 18:08:02 <PublicServer> withoutnick: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r21089/openttd-trunk-r21089-linux-generic-i686.tar.bz2 18:08:09 <withoutnick> !download osx 18:08:09 <PublicServer> withoutnick: use !svn or ask avdg or planetm4ker 18:08:18 <avdg> :o 18:08:24 <planetmaker> :-) 18:08:45 *** Keyboard_Warrior has quit IRC 18:09:15 *** Nostur has joined #openttdcoop 18:09:20 <Nostur> Hey 18:09:42 <PublicServer> <Alendo> hei 18:10:13 <Nostur> Hello planetmaker, I heard you could help me with openttdcoop on mac? I can't compile atm 18:11:31 <avdg> http://wiki.openttd.org/Compiling_on_Mac 18:12:05 <avdg> ^ I hope this helps :) 18:12:49 <Nostur> avdg Yeah i know, i just dont want to go through all this hassle just to play ottd, and i was able to compile without any troubles, but it fuxord somehow and I didnt looked into it yet 18:13:14 <planetmaker> !revision 18:13:14 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Game version is r21089 18:13:33 <planetmaker> Nostur: I'm quite confident that a binary I produce will just crash on your machine :S 18:13:44 <Nostur> Ah, thats too bad 18:13:45 <theholyduck> svn checkout svn://svn.openttd.org/trunk -r21089 openttd 18:13:47 <theholyduck> and compile that? 18:13:49 <theholyduck> how hard can it be? 18:13:54 <avdg> !dl 18:13:54 <PublicServer> avdg: !dl autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|win32|win64|win9x 18:13:54 <PublicServer> avdg: http://www.openttd.org/en/download-trunk/r21089 18:14:04 <avdg> !autostart <- good tool 18:14:05 <PublicServer> avdg: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Autostart 18:14:07 <theholyduck> admitedtly, i've only ever compiled openttd on linux 18:14:08 <Nostur> theholyduck: because gcc and some libraries are fuxord 18:14:51 <Nostur> And i don't need to compile at all, i just wanted to try coop :) 18:14:59 <Sylf> that doesn't sound like a mac problem 18:15:24 <planetmaker> Nostur: OSX comes with complete development tools which you just need to install from your CD / DVD 18:15:39 <planetmaker> the missing libraries can be installed using macports 18:15:43 <Sylf> mac binaries aren't distributed publically, are they? 18:15:48 <planetmaker> and then it should just works 18:15:54 <planetmaker> Sylf: there aren't any official 18:16:13 <planetmaker> at least not since 1.0 18:16:16 <Nostur> Oh well, i guess ill try, thanks 18:16:22 <planetmaker> you're welcome 18:16:29 <planetmaker> what Osx- version do you run? 18:16:41 *** Keyboard_Warrior has joined #openttdcoop 18:16:55 <Nostur> 10.6.3 18:17:01 <planetmaker> hm 18:17:22 <Nostur> port is broken too, thats gonna be fun :D .) 18:17:29 <avdg> if you didn't upgrade because the graphic card problem, it was already fixed months ago ;-) 18:17:40 <planetmaker> how is macports broken? 18:17:53 <avdg> nah, he isn't using 10.6.4 18:18:04 <planetmaker> yes... and? 18:18:42 <Nostur> Pextlib is causing some trouble 18:19:44 <avdg> oh -_ 18:19:56 <Nostur> well, ill try to fix it, thanks for help, bye 18:19:58 *** Nostur has quit IRC 18:20:28 *** withoutnick has quit IRC 18:21:57 *** Keyboard_Warrior has quit IRC 18:22:47 *** theholyduck has quit IRC 18:26:26 *** pugi has quit IRC 18:28:25 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 18:28:26 <bmarky> did voting started yet? 18:30:52 *** perk11 has quit IRC 18:33:14 <XeryusTC> seems not 18:38:06 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has left the game (connection lost) 18:39:26 <planetmaker> then start it, I say 18:39:28 <planetmaker> why not? 18:44:13 *** smoovi has joined #openttdcoop 18:47:11 *** valhallasw has quit IRC 18:51:23 *** bmarky has left #openttdcoop 18:51:53 <Mazur> Because there have not yet been a full day for planning? 18:51:59 <Mazur> s/have/has/ 18:52:41 <planetmaker> so? 18:52:46 <planetmaker> it can be done in parallel 19:00:25 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 19:01:06 *** smoovi has quit IRC 19:05:11 *** Mitcian has joined #openttdcoop 19:16:52 *** perk11 has quit IRC 19:16:53 <PublicServer> *** jond1sti has left the game (leaving) 19:19:26 *** kei_ has quit IRC 19:19:35 *** DayDreamer has joined #openttdcoop 19:25:47 *** jondisti has quit IRC 19:27:25 *** TheRisen has joined #openttdcoop 19:28:18 <TheRisen> hello 19:39:20 *** TheRisen has left #openttdcoop 19:43:20 *** Firartix has quit IRC 19:44:24 *** malta has joined #openttdcoop 19:44:29 <malta> good evening :) 19:45:00 <PublicServer> *** malta joined the game 19:52:22 <PublicServer> *** malta has left the game (leaving) 19:55:20 *** bmarky has joined #openttdcoop 19:56:12 *** Firartix has joined #openttdcoop 20:01:30 *** Whitelighter has joined #openttdcoop 20:08:06 <PublicServer> *** tneo joined the game 20:08:21 <PublicServer> *** tneo has left the game (leaving) 20:08:53 <bmarky> !password 20:08:53 <PublicServer> bmarky: globes 20:09:10 *** Fuco has quit IRC 20:09:29 *** Fuco has joined #openttdcoop 20:09:33 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Fuco 20:09:42 <PublicServer> *** bmarky joined the game 20:14:51 *** dlr365 has quit IRC 20:19:25 *** Cap_J_L_Picard has quit IRC 20:20:30 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 20:21:40 *** TheRisen has joined #openttdcoop 20:21:51 <TheRisen> !dl win64 20:21:51 <PublicServer> TheRisen: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r21089/openttd-trunk-r21089-windows-win64.zip 20:23:26 <TheRisen> !password 20:23:26 <PublicServer> TheRisen: eluded 20:23:42 <PublicServer> *** TheRisen joined the game 20:24:22 <PublicServer> *** bmarky has left the game (connection lost) 20:24:27 *** bmarky has left #openttdcoop 20:25:39 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 20:25:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> hello 20:27:37 <PublicServer> *** TheRisen has left the game (leaving) 20:27:45 *** TheRisen has quit IRC 20:29:25 *** malta has quit IRC 20:37:16 *** Intexon has joined #openttdcoop 20:37:46 *** Intexon is now known as Guest122 20:37:50 <PublicServer> *** Intexon joined the game 20:37:51 <PublicServer> <Intexon> evening 20:38:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 20:40:15 <PublicServer> *** Intexon has left the game (leaving) 20:40:23 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 20:40:51 *** Guest122 has quit IRC 20:42:30 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00002260: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00002260.png 20:42:33 *** Progman_ has joined #openttdcoop 20:47:40 *** dlr365 has joined #openttdcoop 20:49:13 <Whitelighter> @quickstart 20:49:15 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 20:49:18 *** Progman has quit IRC 20:49:31 *** Progman_ is now known as Progman 21:12:51 <Whitelighter> !password 21:12:51 <PublicServer> Whitelighter: holler 21:12:59 <PublicServer> *** Whitelighter joined the game 21:28:37 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop 21:28:37 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 21:42:19 <XeryusTC> !password 21:42:19 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: soothe 21:42:25 <XeryusTC> yes please 21:42:27 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game 21:43:57 *** kei_ has joined #openttdcoop 21:52:35 *** perk11 has quit IRC 21:57:31 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001A8CD: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0001A8CD.png 22:06:49 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 22:14:34 <PublicServer> *** avdg joined the game 22:14:51 <PublicServer> <avdg> my eyes :o 22:16:53 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has left the game (connection lost) 22:17:09 *** theholyduck has joined #openttdcoop 22:17:33 <theholyduck> !password 22:17:33 <PublicServer> theholyduck: sewers 22:17:50 <PublicServer> *** theholyduck joined the game 22:18:11 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> still only 3 plans? 22:18:17 *** benom has quit IRC 22:18:31 *** Progman has quit IRC 22:18:45 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 22:19:05 <PublicServer> *** theholyduck has left the game (connection lost) 22:20:41 *** DayDreamer has quit IRC 22:20:57 *** theholyduck has quit IRC 22:24:13 <V453000> !password 22:24:13 <PublicServer> V453000: sewers 22:24:28 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 22:24:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> elo 22:24:32 <PublicServer> <avdg> oi 22:24:34 <PublicServer> <Sylf> o/ 22:24:44 <PublicServer> <avdg> \o 22:26:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> -o- 22:26:30 <PublicServer> <avdg> chaos :) 22:26:50 <^Spike^> ... 22:26:57 <PublicServer> <avdg> :p 22:27:15 <PublicServer> <avdg> whats wrong with it? 22:27:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> everything< 22:27:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> ? 22:27:34 <PublicServer> <avdg> everything is not an argument 22:27:36 <^Spike^> something come to mind with banned 22:27:47 *** macee has joined #openttdcoop 22:27:55 <PublicServer> *** Spike joined the game 22:28:17 <macee> !help 22:28:17 <PublicServer> macee: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands 22:28:33 <macee> !download 22:28:33 <PublicServer> macee: !download autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|win32|win64|win9x 22:28:33 <PublicServer> macee: http://www.openttd.org/en/download-trunk/r21089 22:29:32 <macee> !password 22:29:32 <PublicServer> macee: deaned 22:29:39 <PublicServer> *** macee joined the game 22:34:41 <PublicServer> *** macee has left the game (leaving) 22:35:06 *** macee has left #openttdcoop 22:37:30 <Webster> Latest update from blog: Advanced Building Revue 08: Overflows II <http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2010/11/07/advanced-building-revue-08-overflows-ii/> 22:37:43 <Sylf> oooh 22:37:49 <V453000> surprise :p 22:41:39 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 22:41:55 <planetmaker> nice :-) 22:44:17 *** benom has joined #openttdcoop 22:44:18 <PublicServer> *** avdg has left the game (connection lost) 22:51:11 *** Cap_J_L_Picard has joined #openttdcoop 22:52:36 *** Jkrueger has joined #openttdcoop 22:53:00 <Jkrueger> o/ 22:53:07 <Jkrueger> @quickstart 22:53:08 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 22:54:38 <V453000> hello :) 22:55:57 <Jkrueger> just looking to spectate on your game (getting the correct nightly right now). 22:56:26 <V453000> :) 22:56:28 <V453000> be welcome 22:56:55 <V453000> trying to play is good too, if you feel like it :) the best way to learn 22:57:27 <planetmaker> !tell Jkrueger about !dl 22:57:35 <planetmaker> hmlll 22:57:52 <Jkrueger> !dl 22:57:52 <PublicServer> Jkrueger: !dl autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|win32|win64|win9x 22:57:52 <PublicServer> Jkrueger: http://www.openttd.org/en/download-trunk/r21089 22:57:59 <V453000> he has quickstart, he knows all :p 22:59:14 *** Cap_J_L_Picard has quit IRC 23:03:52 <Jkrueger> where do i get new depots from? 23:04:35 <planetmaker> !grf 23:04:35 <PublicServer> planetmaker: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/GRF (Version 8.0) 23:04:42 <planetmaker> or from online content 23:04:45 <Jkrueger> kk 23:04:55 <Jkrueger> only one the game couldn't find for me 23:07:21 <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (leaving) 23:08:20 <Jkrueger> !password 23:08:20 <PublicServer> Jkrueger: cynics 23:08:42 <PublicServer> *** Jkrueger joined the game 23:15:51 <PublicServer> *** Jkrueger has left the game (connection lost) 23:16:10 *** theholyduck has joined #openttdcoop 23:26:33 *** Mitcian has quit IRC 23:35:06 *** Firartix has quit IRC 23:36:18 <Jkrueger> what are some good newgrfs to use for offline single player games? 23:36:42 <V453000> what kind? 23:36:51 <V453000> and for what purpose? :) 23:37:20 <Sylf> trains, buildings, eyecandies, rails, roads, road vehicles, airplanes, industries... 23:37:25 <V453000> ... btw best newGRF showcase is probably searching through our archives 23:37:33 *** Progman has quit IRC 23:38:08 <Jkrueger> i've got the v8 pack from coop.org 23:38:33 <Jkrueger> worth adding new trains for a beginner? 23:38:36 <V453000> yes, so you should be able to view all of the latest games :) 23:38:42 <V453000> as you want, really 23:38:55 <V453000> if you feel like wanting to try something new, always good :) 23:39:15 <V453000> newGRFs are a lot of fun to toy around with 23:45:44 *** ODM has quit IRC 23:46:04 <V453000> !password 23:46:04 <PublicServer> V453000: cloven 23:46:22 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 23:46:46 <Jkrueger> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Priorities#PBS_prio in that picture, what is triggering the entry signal? I don't see a combo or an exit signal on the parallel line segment. 23:47:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> I guess we should make at least planning & voting 23:47:18 <V453000> PBS prio is retarded, just skip it :p 23:47:30 <Jkrueger> alright 23:47:34 <Jkrueger> fair enough 23:47:49 <V453000> it works on the basis that the block signal gets blocked, while PBS signals can go on 23:47:51 <Sylf> I used one in 196 23:47:58 * V453000 slaps Sylf 23:48:16 <Jkrueger> !password 23:48:16 <PublicServer> Jkrueger: cloven 23:48:21 <V453000> the only point of using it is over bridges 23:48:35 <PublicServer> *** Jkrueger joined the game 23:48:37 <Sylf> I was out of space otherwise 23:48:46 <V453000> and that cant really be called a PBS prio :) 23:49:28 <PublicServer> *** Alendo has left the game (leaving) 23:50:01 *** Alendo has quit IRC 23:50:07 <Sylf> with that pictured PBS prio, I don't think the merging lane needs the entry signal 23:50:23 <Sylf> that can be just a regular block signal? 23:50:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> of course 23:52:22 <V453000> @stage Planning & Voting 23:52:23 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #197 (r21089) | STAGE: Planning & Voting | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | English only" 23:52:25 <V453000> at least this way 23:53:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) thanks 23:53:47 <Jkrueger> the games on the public server run constantly? what prevents the industries from closing up shop and ruining all the planning? 23:54:03 <V453000> we plan regardless of industries 23:54:38 <theholyduck> Jkrueger, we fund new ones 23:54:47 <Jkrueger> i see 23:57:31 <Sylf> also, the game pauses when less than 2 players are present 23:57:32 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000180F9: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000180F9.png 23:58:49 <Whitelighter> Hey all, came across coop play whilst reading up on openttd. Am interested to see how it all works. 23:59:07 <V453000> welcome :) you already read quickstart, right? 23:59:38 <Whitelighter> am working my way through the docs, there's a lot to take in! 23:59:45 <V453000> for sure :)